WEBVTT - A Family Affair 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.280 Hell, I Suck at Dating with the Nonglert and Dared 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:10.800 Haven and I heard radio podcast What's going on? Everyone? 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:14.080 Welcome to an all new episode of Help I Suck 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:17.400 at Dating? Uh, and I wish you know. Every time 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:20.120 we start these episodes, I say we've got a great 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:21.800 episode in the store for us, We've got something going 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:23.920 on with Jared, we got a great guest, and well 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:27.360 we do have a great guest. Today I can't confidently 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:29.840 say that we're gonna have a great episode. And the 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:33.360 reason is, uh, it's just me by myself. There's no 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:36.360 more ARC or Eastern to fall back on. Riley is 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:39.720 here as she usually is, but I don't know um 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:43.760 of her interest in being involved regularly in this episode, 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:46.720 So it's true. I guess it's gonna be me talking 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:52.760 about whatever comes to my mind. But before we uh 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:55.000 get into whatever I want to talk about, I do 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:57.280 want to let you guys know we have Vanessa in 0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:00.920 a rusion us from the new dating show, The Armenian 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:03.440 Dating Show, which is actually kind of funny to say that. 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:05.560 But she'll be joining us a little bit later after 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.039 the first break. Um, so just if you're interested in that, 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.880 stick around for that but I guess I can update 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:12.920 you guys on where I am. So right now I 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:19.880 am in uh Nashville, Tennessee, because tomorrow is well as 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:24.759 of I guess this recording being aired yesterday was Ben 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:28.680 and Justice wedding here in Nashville. So there's a bunch 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:32.600 of us out here. Kaylin, Nick, Natalie, and myself are 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:37.039 all staying in a nice little house near downtown Nashville. 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:41.920 Nick was actually supposed to guest host this episode with me, 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:48.440 but there are some small fears that I might have COVID, 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:55.240 but that's not confirmed. It's also not tonight. I uh so, 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:57.920 I've been doing a lot of like renovating of our 0:01:57.920 --> 0:01:59.720 house in Las Vegas, and I inhaled a lot of 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:04.680 saw us and I wasn't wearing a mask, and I 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:08.160 was like standing and cutting and doing a bunch of 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:09.880 stuff with wood, and I think I inhaled a lot 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.400 of sawdust. And so my sinuses are really really messed 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:15.440 up right now, like they're clogged. I can't really breathe 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:18.480 through my nose very well. It's got a little bit better, actually, 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:22.160 but that's why it's just me hosting today. Jared is 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:25.320 in Mexico at his best friend's wedding. I think he's 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:27.440 a groomsman. He actually was going to come on today 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:29.760 and I said, no, Jared, you can take the day 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:31.520 off because Nick and I are going to co host, 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:34.560 and then right before we started go hosting rightfully, so 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:36.480 Nick was like, yeah, maybe I don't think I want 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:40.680 to do that anymore. So here I am just rambling 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:43.960 and rambling on. I'm gonna go into our hot topics 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:48.680 here because I don't really know what else to talk about. Honestly, Riley, 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:50.120 do you want to jump in on this podcast with me? 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.840 Because I feel just weird talking and talking and talking. 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:54.720 I'm happy to jump on with you, and I think 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:57.160 you're doing a great job. Oh thanks, Well, I need 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:01.240 you here, so I appreciate you joining me. Um rally, 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:04.120 Before we jump into the hot topics, can you just 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:06.799 give us an update on where your parents are since 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:10.280 the last time we talked to them. Um, my parents 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:15.080 are still traveling around and living their lives and having fun. Um, 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:18.280 they're so excited about what they're doing and um, you know, 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:21.800 this new stage in their life. So they're just careless 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:25.520 and worry free. And their YouTube video is still going 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:29.920 strong or their YouTube channel they're going strong. Yep. Have 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:36.000 you been featured on the YouTube channel yet? I have not. Um, 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.440 I know my brother for sure does not want anything 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:41.200 to do with it, a little more open to it, 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.520 but I think I want them to, you know, have 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:47.000 the spotlight and do what they want to do. So 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:49.960 but if they'd like me too, I'm happy to that's 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.520 nice to you. Are you gonna be asking them for Thanksgiving? 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:56.400 I am. We are actually going out this weekend to 0:03:56.720 --> 0:04:00.000 visit my grandparents and do an early Thanksgiving with them. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:05.360 So where's that palm springs? Oh? Nice palm springs. That's 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:08.200 exactly what I think about when I think about that Thanksgiving. Yes, 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:12.200 nice and warm? Nice and warm? Um. All right, Riley, Well, 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:14.760 so you and I thank you for again jumping in 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.120 and coasting this podcast with me because we all know 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:20.200 how much I struggled to do things on my own. Um. So, 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.880 the hot topics that we have today, there are five 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:26.120 big big red flash to look out for wild dating, 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:28.880 according to our relationship expert, and I want to go 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:31.640 through all five of those with you. Is that okay? 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:33.760 And I also want to talk about whether you've experiencing 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:35.920 these or not, because I'm sure at some point in 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:38.000 another we have either experienced that aren't done them ourselves. 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.919 So the first one is, uh, they want you to 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.640 move too fast as a couple, and I feel like 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:48.560 this is typically um, well, actually no, I guess I 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:51.640 was gonna say this typically is women experiencing it, but 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:53.680 I bet you it probably goes both ways. So have 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:56.720 you ever been like dating someone and then they wanted 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.200 to progress their relationship too quickly and you're like turned 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:02.320 off by it? Definitely? I think you know, it wasn't 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:04.800 so much just a relationship they want to progress, but 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:06.840 they like talk to me right off the bat like 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:10.320 we were in a relationship, you know, like meeting somebody 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:12.120 for the first time. They were always they were like 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:15.960 quick to just like pet names like baby and stuff 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:20.800 like that. And I was like, yeah, yeah, I think 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:24.560 that's definitely a reflect too. I Um, I've I've had 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:28.600 to go both ways. I've been like, I guess it's 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:29.880 hard not to like, like, let's say you have like 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:31.359 a great night with someone, right and you guys like 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.719 hang out, um, and you're hanging out the next day 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.760 and like you are just like lovey dovey, holding hands 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.920 kissing in public like that kind of stuff. I feel 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:43.039 like that can sometimes be um easy, but I feel 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:45.120 like there are a lot of occasions where you're right, 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.960 like you're talking to someone too for not very long, 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:49.440 and then they start like turning it on the way 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:51.200 too much and calling you baby, and like, oh, that's 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:54.240 kind of aggress I guess I'm trying to think, like, 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:57.160 I don't know if I've ever experienced that personally though, 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:00.000 I feel like, especially from the Bachelor show that happened, 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:01.919 it is pretty frequently like people fall in love and 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:06.080 less than a a week, But personally, like, outside of 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:09.440 my show experience, I can't think I've ever had that happen. 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:12.760 Have you found yourself talking too soon, like saying things 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.960 that you normally wouldn't Well, my brain is musch again. 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:19.719 I want to remind you that, um, have I ever 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.320 done that? I mean, I want to say no, but 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.479 the answer is probably yes, Like at some point or another, 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:28.000 I'm sure I had done something very ridiculous like that. 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:33.960 I think. I think even if I was really into someone, though, 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:35.520 I would always try to slow play it to the 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.479 best of my ability. Um, So maybe not so much. 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:39.960 But I don't know. That's a hard question to ask 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:43.359 to answer because as uh, you obviously know, it's like 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:47.800 it's hard to recall every every moment of every dating 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:50.440 experience you've ever had in your entire life. But we're 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:52.000 gonna be move on the next one because that one's tricky. 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:53.200 So that's the number one is they want you to 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.479 move too fast as a couple. Um. Number two is 0:06:55.520 --> 0:07:00.240 they only communicate via text or social media. And I 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:05.000 have definitely been involved with people that are like this, 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.440 and I wonder, I wonder why it is too. I 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:09.960 think that there are well, there's obviously like the cat 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.680 fishing purposes, right, like they don't want to talk on 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.120 the phone because they're worried about like their voice, or 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:17.280 they don't want to meet in person because they don't 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:18.760 want you to see what they actually look like. So 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.720 I think there's a lot of issues that surround that, um. 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:23.720 But I think that even even beyond that, like let's 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:25.520 say you have met them in person and you don't 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:27.240 know exactly who they are and they still only want 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:28.840 to text or they still only want to like chat 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:30.760 on social media, I think that can be a bit 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.240 of a red flag too, because it's like, well, like, 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:36.200 why is this your only form of communication? I'm recalling 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:40.400 like one person in particular that like I feel like 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.920 she was like dating like maybe like five other guys 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:44.320 at the time, and that's why that was like her 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:47.240 way of keeping everything organized was by texting full time 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:51.160 instead of talking on the phone. So that's why that's 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:52.680 like what I related to. But that definitely is a 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.120 red flag. Have you ever experienced that where someone never 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.440 wants to call or meet in person or anything like that, 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:01.280 especially being on dating apps, Like people don't want to 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:02.920 get off dating apps most of the time. They just 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:07.400 want to stick there and they know we had we 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:09.080 had that guest not too long ago. That made that 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.320 good point too. There's like a rule where it's like 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.480 after a week or two weeks, if they haven't asked 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:17.000 you to like move from the app to like get 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:18.840 your phone number or something like that, then it's just 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:21.960 time to give up on it because they're taking too long. 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:23.880 And I agree with that. I think a lot of 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:25.600 people just like to like sit on their on their 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:28.080 hands and twidet of the thumbs and now one of 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:31.680 the next thing, um this one actually kind of it 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:36.079 is ironic to me because not ironic, but timely. Number 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:40.280 three is they trash talk their X. And the reason 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:42.440 I say it's timely is because Caitlin and I were 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:44.560 actually just talking about this last night. I feel like 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:49.320 I got under a lot of uh scrutiny for doing 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.280 the opposite of that, for talking highly of my ax, 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:56.600 who is now on Clayton's season. So uh, I guess 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.120 they're both red flags. You don't want to talk trash 0:08:58.160 --> 0:08:59.680 about your ex and you don't want talk highlight about 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.920 your ex, because either way you're going to um be 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:06.160 in red flag there. All right, we gotta guests waiting 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:07.839 in the waiting. Um, So I'm just gonna go through 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:09.679 these last two real quick. They just got out of 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:11.760 a relationship. That's not really a red flag to me. 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.520 That just means bad timing, I guess. Or number five, 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.800 they got drunk on the first date, also not a 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.679 red flag to me, um, because getting drunk on the 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:23.520 first date is a great way to take the edge off. UM. Okay, Well, 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:25.679 we're gonna take a quick break and we're gonna get 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:27.800 to our guests. Stay tuned through the break, we'll be 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:40.080 it back. All right, everybody, welcome back to help I 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:43.240 suck at dating. And I know I promised to have 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:45.800 Vanessa here joining me, but I actually I'm gonna do 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:48.600 you guys one better. I have Vanessa and Natasha joining 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.720 us from the Armenian Dating Show. UM, how are you guys? 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:55.959 Thank you so much? Thanks, I'm great, Thanks for asking, 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.680 Thanks so much for joining. UM. I appreciate you guys 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.600 joining the episode of how by Second Dating. So I 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:03.240 I just gotta ask because I've never really heard of 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.000 the Armenian Dating Show, so I just need to know 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:07.559 all about it. Can you start from the finish or 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:08.800 start from the beginning and go all the way to 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:10.360 the end for me? Like what it's about? What? What 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:13.920 can we expected for watching all that kind of stuff? UM? Basically, 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:18.679 it is the brainchild of our amazing producer, Anthony Abocci 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:22.040 and the production team that he founded Mia Seen UM 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:26.040 And it's an unscripted show that basically, over ten episodes, 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:29.440 serializes what it's like to date UM as an Armenian 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:33.560 in l a UM, the struggles of it all while 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:36.520 still trying to like be connected to our roots and 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.760 our culture and our heritage and all of that. And 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:42.920 you know basically how much we also suck at dating? 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:46.959 So are we gonna see something of that? We we 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.000 gotta see you guys dating on the show then obviously 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:54.080 mm hmmmm. And there's there's a little twist to it. 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:58.560 So before the main singles go out on their dates, 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:02.800 they're eates have to meet their families first. How can 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:08.360 I forget that? That was the big like surprise? Why 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:10.480 is that? Is? It? Is family super important in Armenian 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:14.120 dating culture? Is that why? Yeah? Definitely? I don't think 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.679 Natasha and I a lot of people like our friends, 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:20.120 we wouldn't date people who are not very family oriented. 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.960 Like our family is our foundation, it's our bedrock. They 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:27.240 are biggest support system and our biggest critics. Um mainly 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:31.760 our critics, but you know we um. Basically the whole 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:33.920 point of it is that they meet our friends and 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:39.120 family before they meet us, and and just how stressful 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:42.320 that is because I personally have never had anyone meet 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:46.120 my friends or family anyone that I've dated, so it 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:50.240 was very like anxiety inducing for me. Well wait, I 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.000 gotta I gotta stop here there then, So if if 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.280 it's so important, why have you never had anyone meets 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:57.839 your family or friends before? Now? Because no one made 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:02.719 the cut the important enough that it was just that 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.440 they weren't important enough exactly. I think it's like, you know, 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:10.120 there's a big emotional burden involved with having someone meet 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.920 the people that matter to you the most, and I 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:15.840 just never really thought anyone that I dated met my 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:20.240 family and friends standards. So sorry. So then this was 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.400 a major twist for you. Then, rather than going from 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:25.360 someone never meeting your parents and your family, uh, to 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:27.880 then meeting them before you even get so you you 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:29.480 haven't even had a chance to meet these people, right, 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.160 they go through the ringer with the family first. Yeah, 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.760 it's basically like they meet my friends and family, and 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.720 then I'm sitting on a blind date with these guys. 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:39.600 I have no idea what they look like or anything, 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.640 and they're talking to me about my parents, like, oh 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:45.720 your mom's though, who your dad's like this? Your friends 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:52.240 were asking crazy questions and I'm like, how is this happening? Natasha? 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:53.800 What was your experience like with it too? Are you 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:56.640 stressed out with them meeting your family before? So my 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:58.880 experience is different than van Usas because I'm not a 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:03.040 main single so I had to meet the guy's parents 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.199 that I went on a date. Oh great, So we 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:06.679 get both sides of it. Then, so what was that 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:08.680 like then walking in to meet them. I mean, it's 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:12.199 interesting because you learn a lot about that person, like 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:15.120 through someone else's eyes. But to be fair, I feel 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:18.160 like the families are going to only put, you know, 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:20.840 the good stuff out there. I tried to get some 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:25.040 some gossip or like embarrassing stuff out, but they were very, 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:30.560 very protective on revealing any of that information. So yeah, 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.120 just like hearing all the good things about this person 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:37.040 and like I guess, like getting excited without meeting them. 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.760 Yet it doesn't kind of go both ways. Like let's 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:42.520 say you walk in to meet some guys family and 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:45.400 you like, don't mesh well with the family, right, And 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:46.920 then what if they're like, we really like you, we 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:48.280 want you to meet our son, and then in your 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:49.640 back of your head, you're like, well, I don't even 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:51.719 know if I want to meet your son. Now did 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:55.839 that ever happen at all? Um? I mean I can't 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:58.280 say on the show, but I never had to do that, 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.360 So no, that hasn't that happened in my life before. 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:04.559 But yess you'll just have to watch the show to see. 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:06.840 And I don't think, like, as a rule of thumb, 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.200 I don't think Natasha and I are like willing to 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.920 meet people's friends and family before we meet them moving forward. 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.120 It was it was a one, one time experiment, maybe 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:20.200 not gonna happen again. Before before having done the Armenian 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:21.760 Dating Show, had you guys ever been on like a 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:25.000 blind date or anything like that? I have been on 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:29.720 a blind date once and I told myself never again. 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:34.320 It was that bad. What was the first blind date? Like? 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:36.120 Was it was just that bad that you decided you 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:40.400 never wanted to give it a shot. So this is 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:43.080 gonna sound very shallow. I'm not a shallow person, Like, 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.520 I've attracted to a lot more things than looks. That's 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:50.000 actually like the bottom of the radar. But this person 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:54.600 just looked twice my age um at the time, and 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:58.400 I was not down with that. But also some of 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.800 the values that spoke about. I was like, yeah, this 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.920 is not gonna work right. But it was an okay date, 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:10.000 like it went smooth but totally. But I was like, yeah, 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:12.040 but what about you? Had you ever been on a 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:15.120 blind date? Before the show? Um? I joke with my 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.200 friends that I've been on a blind dat because I 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.440 swear to god, I feel like I was catfished once, 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:24.440 like this guy was not using like current photos of himself. 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:27.200 I was at the bar, like where is so you 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:31.280 where it? But you know, I mean, it's a dangerous 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.800 world out there with online dating, and I felt like 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:38.000 I have done such a crappy job picking them myself 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.160 that maybe I should just put in the hands of 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:44.520 someone else. I mean, can't get much worse. Yeah, So 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:46.360 can you guys here a little bit more? I know 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:49.680 you said you're Armenian. Dating is very family oriented and 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:51.760 you're you know, everyone's kind of involved in the process. 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.160 But can you guys kind of like compare and contrast 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:57.720 or like share maybe, like what's unique about Armenian dating 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:59.560 culture more so than just like the family, Like is 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:03.760 there anything us beyond that? I mean, like for me, 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:07.840 it's just everything in one so like knowing the language 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:10.400 and like the culture, the traditions, the holidays and just 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:13.960 like having the appreciation for that. Um, I guess that 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:16.680 doesn't necessarily mean that they have to be Armenian, like 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:19.040 I think, I mean myself. I don't know if I 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.240 speak on finesss we have, but like are are open 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:24.560 to non Armians, but as as long as the respect 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.240 for the culture is there Um, I know a handful 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:31.080 of people who you know, are not Armian and love 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:34.720 our culture and almost seem more Armenian than I am 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:38.640 sometimes because they're surrounded by like so many other friends 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:42.640 and um that are Yeah. I think just having it's 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:46.400 just easier. I guess if it's easier to have someone 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:50.080 who understands like the mannerisms of your family and like 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:54.200 just the way things are and like the strictness or 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:58.160 like the you know, just the different culture is traditions 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:02.480 and like practices that that um with being Armian. Yeah, 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:04.639 and you know, someone you can talk crap about in 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:10.520 the same language about other people is always apt. I 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:14.720 mean yeah for me personally, like my my parents they're 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:19.000 both Armenian but completely opposite experiences, Like my dad is 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.920 third generation Armyian born in America and my mom is 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.800 arming and born in Syria, So like my dad doesn't 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:28.439 read write anything like that. And I think assimilation was 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:31.399 like a really big fear for them with you know, 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:35.720 me and my siblings, so they really instilled from like 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:37.280 day one, you've got to be with an army, and 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:38.760 you've got to be with an army, and and like 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:43.800 a true rebellious teenager you know, twenty year old in college, 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:46.040 I was like, screw you guys, I'm gonna date whatever 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:49.240 I want. And then as I got older, I was like, 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:51.480 it is just a little bit easier, you know. And 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:55.320 I'm not I'm not closed off to being or dating 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:57.760 a non Army and but I think it's just my 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:02.800 preference and um, you know, so we'll just see if 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:06.200 if he's out there. Yeah, well in Vanessa to your 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:09.040 point too, I remember, um, many many many years ago, 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:13.200 I was dating this this French girl and she uh 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:15.679 like introduced me to her family and whenever I was around, 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:17.200 I was I would always like beg them. I was like, 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:19.280 please don't speak French when I'm around, because I feel 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:21.280 like you're talking crap about me behind my back because 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:23.879 I can't understand anything you're saying. So it must be 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:25.240 nice to be able to talk crap to people in 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:29.639 Armenian that might not be able to understand what's going on. Um. So, 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:32.600 so both of your dating histories then it's been mostly Armenian. Right. 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:35.439 Have you guys tried dating other cultures and it just 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:38.399 wasn't um what you wanted or have you guys just 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:43.840 basically strictly stuck to dating other Armenians. I'd safe. For me, 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:47.640 it was it's mainly been Armenians. I've been on dates 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:52.840 with non Armenians as well, and I think ultimately like 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:56.280 we didn't connect for other reasons as well. I don't 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:58.840 think it was just the fact that he wasn't Armenian, 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:02.320 but I think now I just kind of like I 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:04.119 look and I swee, and I'm like, is that an 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:06.800 Armanian name or not? Like, oh, look at the pictures 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:09.439 and try to figure out going on because like I 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.280 don't have an Armyian name. I don't I've been told 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:14.879 I don't really look Armenians, so I you know, I 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:18.040 had to like add like an Armenian flag in my profile. 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:23.720 I don't know it. For me, it's it's mainly been Armenians, 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:27.400 and trust me, that's come with its own baggage of 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:31.080 like you know, kissing frogs. They're not all great either, 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:36.480 but I'm sure Natalka can relate it. Well. Yeah, I 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:41.280 would say mine is like I'm definitely open to dating 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:46.280 non Armenians, but for the long run, ideally I would 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:49.520 like to marry on an Armenian. But of course, like 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:52.280 if someone else comes along, then I'm like, Okay, you're 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:54.879 an amazing person. You treat me well, like you respect 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:57.000 me and my family, and like we get along and 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:02.200 it just works. Then I wouldn't necessarily say no, but yeah, 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:05.600 ideally I would. I want to end up with an Armenian. 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:08.639 But I'm not opposed to dating and honor. What is 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:12.480 what is Armanian culture in Los Angeles? Like, like, obviously 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:15.520 it's it's Americanized to a degree, but is it still 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:24.359 pretty culturally representative of back in Armenia. Um? Yeah, yeah, 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:27.000 that's true. Like are you in the valley, are you 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:31.359 in Glendell, are you in like Los Angeles? Um? I 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:34.320 mean we both went to private Armyian schools, so we 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:36.920 were very much in that community and like we grew 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:39.720 up with that. But if you are an Armenian that 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:43.560 wasn't necessarily like part of an Armenian school or like 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:47.800 an Armenian organization, then I guess you might not be 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:52.560 as ingraining culture or like know as many people in 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:55.840 the community. But I think that's mostly I would say 0:20:55.960 --> 0:21:00.280 up to the parents to decide like how involved want 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:04.400 their kids to be, right, Yeah, And I'd say even 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:06.760 I mean, I think the beauty of this show as 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:10.119