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Speaker 3: This is Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: Friday, January twenty first, twenty twenty two, one more sleep,

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Speaker 2: Today we will set that stage.

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Speaker 1: My name is Brian Campbell, the BBC with that BDE

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Speaker 1: You got here, but you know, you know you don't

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Speaker 2: Today. From India with love, It's Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 3: Not from India, maybe not even with love. But I'm here, BC,

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Speaker 3: I'm here. I'm ready to get going. We got some fights.

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Speaker 3: The pay per views is back. We have some showtime

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Speaker 1: Weekend, absolutely, Luke, and I know you can see this

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Speaker 2: Luke, I got too much shampoo in the eye in

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Speaker 3: Yes, But I've never complained about it in the way

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Speaker 3: are you shampooing with fucking carbonic acid? What are you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm getting I'm getting manned up, Luke manscaped up?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: Uh Luke MK still gonna be here despite this eye

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Speaker 1: We got a great show coming your way. We also

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Speaker 1: sell great merch. Morningcombat Dot store would be the home

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Speaker 1: of that if you could check out that nice website

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Speaker 1: is some new merch on there, yes, check it out now,

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Speaker 2: I told you next Wednesday. The other day, I got

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Speaker 1: Dunklemaker says, next Monday, a couple days from now. We

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Speaker 1: We got Championship Boxing Saturday night. We got that new

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Speaker 1: Dexter series. Billions is back. I mean, you got BC

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Speaker 1: Collins Showbox. We got Bellator around the corner. Now would

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Speaker 1: on Saturday. We'll tell you the reason why in a

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Speaker 1: Couldn't be wrong, Luke, Although can we get that number up?

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Speaker 2: Two facts that are look.

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Speaker 1: Look, Luke, you're a marine X Marine. There's no such

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Speaker 2: Luke. We got another great shout out yesterday.

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Speaker 1: From a former WWE champion, Big E of the New

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Speaker 4: I'm also a big morning combat fan. I see was

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Speaker 4: I'm also a big morning combat fan. I see was

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Speaker 2: And real talk Luke, Right, that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, okay, he knows his way around the weight room, Luke.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he dude. That would be fucking sweet to go

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Speaker 1: Great, Thank you very much. I think I think that's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Morning combat at gmail dot com to roast us

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Speaker 3: today of dead wrongs is extraordinary.

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Speaker 1: The same, all right here and I here for our ridiculousness.

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Speaker 1: You are here to get fired up. Saturday, Anaheim, California,

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Speaker 2: One of the biggest heavyweight fights of all time.

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Speaker 2: See it little gone. I almost sounded classy in saying that, uh, Luke,

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Speaker 3: Who That's a great question. Well important, Okay, I.

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Speaker 3: you wanna describe it? It's a big fight, BC. I

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Speaker 1: Well, I want to hit this hard on many angles,

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Speaker 2: It seems more like just stuff to talk about to me.

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Speaker 1: But do you put any stock or have any comment

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Speaker 3: It's hard to say. I can't get up on here

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Speaker 2: That's fair. Look you see the stairdown right there. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. I mean I still think Francis looks

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Speaker 2: But that's wild to think like that man's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think the I think the only

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Speaker 2: So just that in mind, Luke, I finally looked up

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Speaker 3: Means means it's good, what it means good?

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Speaker 2: I thought it was young boy.

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Speaker 1: Which is like the French that the translation of French

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Speaker 2: That's it's not the coolest nickname ever.

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Speaker 1: It was a It was a crude coach Sandusky joke.

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Speaker 3: It looked like he wasn't in the uh adolescent rape

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Speaker 1: I wasn't the ending scene of episode one, Attack of

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Speaker 1: they're they're coming on, So for sure we the counter's back. Uh. Seriously, though, Luke,

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Speaker 1: obviously a million reasons to like this fight. The press conference,

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Speaker 2: But Mackenzie Dern, Yeah, we get it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is the fight game. So if you

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Speaker 2: Know, yeah it was.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't the best four fighter pairing to

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Speaker 2: I mean, am I just being in the old guy

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Speaker 3: At this point, I mean, I mean, how many times

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Speaker 3: This is the world that the UFC's media policies has wrought.

436
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Speaker 3: I don't know if they are embarrassed or if they

437
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,439
Speaker 3: like it the way that it is, but it is

438
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Speaker 3: the way that it is because of them. For basically

439
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,160
Speaker 3: two more than this, but two major reasons. One they

440
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,399
Speaker 3: invite fans. And I always say this, Fans are like,

441
00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,680
Speaker 3: why why is it wrong to why invite them to

442
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Speaker 3: a press conference? Dude, listen to the words. It's not

443
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 3: a conference, it's a press conference. A press conference is

444
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Speaker 3: called when you need to get the word out about

445
00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,440
Speaker 3: something and or about with a bunch of different people.

446
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:53,639
Speaker 3: You need to do it all at once for a

447
00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,960
Speaker 3: very important reason. If you invite fans, that's fine, But

448
00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,800
Speaker 3: if the fans are going to be there, they should

449
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 3: be the ones asking the question. Inviting the fans turns

450
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 3: it into Jerry Springer, and then you make the media

451
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,439
Speaker 3: complicit in that kind of relationship, which is not what

452
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,880
Speaker 3: they're there to do. But because that's what's happened BC,

453
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,200
Speaker 3: you get what you get, which is, hey, are you

454
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Speaker 3: guys gonna fart in your hand and make an NFT?

455
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Speaker 1: And well, you know we've already seen like people smart

456
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,879
Speaker 1: to use the angle, use use the leverage as an angle,

457
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 1: like the Chad Johnson betting website. They're always coming out

458
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Speaker 1: and they're basically doing a commercial for themselves but also

459
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Speaker 1: asking a stupid question. This is even more shameless. It's like,

460
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Speaker 1: let's ask the I mean, even even Dana No Solda,

461
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,399
Speaker 1: even Dana White, who could have completely just sopped that

462
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Speaker 1: moment up for you know, extra shameless points, was like,

463
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Speaker 1: uh no, let's not talk about that now, please, like

464
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 1: we're trying to you know, come on, that's.

465
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Speaker 3: How bad to say this too. Like their policies have

466
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Speaker 3: pushed out the kind of media that I think the

467
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Speaker 3: fans would would would prefer to see it, those kinds

468
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Speaker 3: of things by virtue of their practices. And I don't

469
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Speaker 3: want to say like people like Oscar Willis, Mike Bond,

470
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Speaker 3: all those guys who do all the John Morgan and

471
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 3: all the folks fighting who go over there like they do.

472
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 3: It's hard work and they're on the front lines of

473
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 3: talking to these fighters all the time. It's difficult. But

474
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 3: that assignment used to be what everyone wanted, and now

475
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,479
Speaker 3: you see that a lot of people don't. Are not

476
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Speaker 3: necessarily people like me, And I would say Ariel and

477
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 3: other people too, we're not necessarily great fits for that

478
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Speaker 3: kind of thing.

479
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Speaker 2: But I don't.

480
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Speaker 1: But I don't take away from anyone like the Schmo

481
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Speaker 1: who has used those platforms to really get for them.

482
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Speaker 3: If it works for them, it's fine, But I'm just

483
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Speaker 3: pointing out it's become such a shit show that people

484
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Speaker 3: like me are like.

485
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Speaker 1: Well, I just think at the end of the day,

486
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Speaker 1: whether we're making you know, wasting time on here or not.

487
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Speaker 1: The fact that not one question, now, one single question

488
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Speaker 1: during that press conference about Francis's contract and whether a

489
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Speaker 1: win or a loss you know, means he's coming or going,

490
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Speaker 1: Like are.

491
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Speaker 2: You kidding me?

492
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Speaker 1: That's that's god Like, that's one of the biggest stories,

493
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, Like, look, that storyline is almost more important

494
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,439
Speaker 1: than the actual fight, which is like he'be versus Connor

495
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 1: territory in terms of like, you know, like how do

496
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 1: you not bring.

497
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Speaker 3: That up, I because you're asked, because if you're there

498
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 3: to ask about do these people don't care? They don't

499
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Speaker 3: care that France. Dude. This is the thing. It's like

500
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 3: I it's sometimes fans will right me and they'll be like, hey,

501
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 3: what should I do if I really care about fighter pain?

502
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, of course, support the fighters that

503
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Speaker 3: you like or whatever. But the answer is that, I mean,

504
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 3: they're not really involved in this process. I mean, yeah,

505
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 3: the pushback on data, you know, and you see people

506
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 3: making memes and the social media chatter about it, but

507
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 3: never really amounts to anything because the fans ultimately are

508
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 3: not going to change their preferences. Their preferences as consumers

509
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 3: are much more in alignment with the promoter than the fighter.

510
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 3: So you know, you're gonna get these kinds of clashes

511
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 3: that you're describing by virtual of the fact that they're

512
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 3: not what each group wants, are not in alignment.

513
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, there's tape of it.

514
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Speaker 1: I've been in these things and I've asked purposely stupid

515
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 1: fun questions too, to just get some energy going out there.

516
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Speaker 1: But there's a difference between avoiding big news and doing

517
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: actual commercials. While you're asking a question, and that right there.

518
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: All right, Luke, enough of that.

519
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 2: A clarification on the business reality of this though.

520
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Speaker 1: Did you watch the Francis and Gandhu interview with Bretto

521
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: Kimoto that a lot of our listeners after Wednesday show

522
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: were like, hey, go check that out. Francis told Brett

523
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 1: that the way he believes his UFC contract works right

524
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: now is this actually could be his last fight winner lose,

525
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 1: and it expires for good at December of this calendar year,

526
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: so less than a year from now. Because of that

527
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 1: five year rule in the contract where.

528
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 3: They have your last they have a sunset clause at

529
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 3: five that's right.

530
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Speaker 1: Does that change anything in your eyes from the standpoint

531
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Speaker 1: of whether of the outcome deciding Francis's future.

532
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 3: Yes, because it would be absolutely major, major news for

533
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 3: a UFC champion to simply decide to walk away, because

534
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 3: while they would not be taking their belt with them.

535
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 3: Folks don't understand this. It is illegal in boxing for

536
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 3: a promoter to own a belt. That's why the sanctioning

537
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 3: bodies have to exist. There's a federal rule that prohibits

538
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 3: them from doing that kind of a thing. They can't.

539
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: Oh, they do it pay enough behind the scenes, luke

540
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: to get what they want in the end, or.

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Speaker 3: Fair enough, But it becomes a big difference when the

542
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 3: promoter has direct and absolute, unequivocal control over that title.

543
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 3: It's a different ballgame sort of because of it. So

544
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 3: if Francis was able to walk away, he obviously could

545
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 3: not take his UFC championship with him, but he could

546
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 3: easily take his status as the far and away best

547
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 3: heavyweight out there with him, and that would be a

548
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 3: bit of a big deal because he's on the front

549
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 3: cover of espndmagazine on ESPN dot com right now. He's

550
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 3: at the very top of it. We just saw him

551
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 3: on The Daily Show with Trevor Noah, which again it's

552
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 3: not about a political thing. It's just about how what

553
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 3: kind of audiences is he reaching beyond sports exactly exposure Correctly,

554
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 3: it's a Q rating thing. He's beginning to really begin

555
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 3: to build it. You have argued that with a win

556
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 3: like this, God only knows what's possible a dude like

557
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 3: that walking, it's hard to know exactly where. Again, we

558
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 3: go back to the same problem we see, which is okay, right,

559
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 3: but where is he going to go to do bigger?

560
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 3: Business less the possibility and the reality of him eventually

561
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 3: potential won any way of him doing that, that would

562
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 3: be historically significant in a way that you know, the

563
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 3: Bjpenn walking away his champion even.

564
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Speaker 2: Well, I was going to ask you what is the

565
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Speaker 2: historical comparison.

566
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Speaker 1: I was going to bring up Brandy Couturur, who you

567
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: know as as acting UFC heavyweight champion, got into a

568
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 1: lot of these situations and that's a big part of

569
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 1: his legacy. By the way, his willingness to do that

570
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: when else has something close to this happened.

571
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Speaker 3: Part of it would be just bad pr where it's like, wow,

572
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Speaker 3: you let a guy like that walk because you were

573
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 3: too cheap. I mean, the headlines and the kind of

574
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 3: environment that fosters from a narrative standpoint would be trouble

575
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 3: for the UFC. But the bigger thing I think it

576
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 3: kind of stands out to me maybe is that what

577
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 3: these guys who want the ALI Act they want a

578
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 3: lot of different things, but one of the things that

579
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 3: they want is what boxing borrows, which is that again

580
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 3: the promoter cannot control the title, and there's also an

581
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 3: independent ranking right so that no matter what promoter or

582
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 3: whoever you're fighting in or country. You know, if you're

583
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 3: doing the work that you're supposed to be doing. Ostensibly

584
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 3: it should be reflected in the rankings because the promoter

585
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 3: cannot control it. So if Francis walks again, he can't

586
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 3: really take his UFC ranking, he cannot take his UFC belt,

587
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 3: but he can take putatively his unofficial title as the

588
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 3: number one heavyweight, the very best guy. So in a sense,

589
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 3: he kind of mimics a little bit what would be

590
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 3: official in a different world and how that would enable

591
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 3: him to maximize his opportunities elsewhere. Right, he gets the

592
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 3: almost the full benefit of that world, not exactly, but

593
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 3: some of the trimmings of it. It says a lot

594
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 3: about what could be done assuming he can structure a

595
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 3: deal outside of the UFC that is lucrative.

596
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Speaker 1: And if you missed, if Francis went on to tell

597
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: Brett that he's not fighting again under this current deal,

598
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: like he'll sit out the rest of that year, no,

599
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: no doubt.

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Speaker 3: He's no longer I think it was a mistake. I

601
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 3: think he's no.

602
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: Longer willing to fight for five hundred or six hundred thousand,

603
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,479
Speaker 1: which I mean, God, if he be I mean if

604
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: he beats Gone and he's the heavyweight champion in the face,

605
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: I mean, just.

606
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 3: Ask yourself a question. Should Francis and Gono? I know

607
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 3: this are very different sports, very different situations, but it

608
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 3: is the same network, albeit sometimes pay per view, sometimes

609
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 3: it's TV, even if you're the guy I'm about to mention,

610
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: But just just someone from UFC explain to me why

611
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 3: Bud Crawford should be making many multiples, not just more,

612
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 3: many multiples orders of magnitude more than Francis and Ganu.

613
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 3: What is the argument for that? Because Bob aram is

614
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 3: getting sued to the point. I mean, I'm not here

615
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: towag in on the merits of ABC, but I'm just

616
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 3: pointing out, like those guys had an acrimonious relationship that

617
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 3: was dysfunctional and fucked up, and now you see the

618
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 3: results of that, and he still made multiple orders of

619
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 3: magnitude more than Francis. Who on earth could justify that

620
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 3: with a straight face. I would love to know what

621
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 3: the answer is.

622
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Speaker 1: Yeah, By the way, shout out to Francis for doing

623
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: I shout out to him for knowing his value, standing

624
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: firm and been basically saying whatever happens happens, that's why

625
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: Luke to do this long loop to bring us back

626
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: to the fight. I don't think this the who dropped who,

627
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: none of that stuff is gonna matter.

628
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: I don't even think they hate each other, to be fair, even.

629
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Speaker 1: With the the ending of Francis's relationship with with fernand

630
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: Lopez and it's still you know, there's still some raw

631
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: bitterness there, but I don't think I think that's all.

632
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: Put it to the side. Luke, Okay, it's gonna be

633
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: time to talk about the fight. So the final word

634
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: on that will come from sidle Gan himself, who sat

635
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: down with Shaq Masjouri. You know him Luke from CBS

636
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: Sports and uh you see him once for a while

637
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 1: himself on MK once sometimes you see him on them

638
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: can Wednesday. You were like, fuck that guy. You know,

639
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 1: You're like, not a chance that that guy's makes it

640
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: to the airwaves. But here's Shack and Cyril Gon talking

641
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: ahead of this one.

642
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 5: When you look at the UFC heavyweight division, do you

643
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 5: see anyone as a clear next contender because it's kind

644
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 5: of a mess.

645
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,239
Speaker 3: I don't want to say it's a mess, but it's

646
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: kind of confusing. Right.

647
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 5: Is Steepe gonna fight. Is Jones gonna fight? Who do

648
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 5: you see in the heavyweight division realistically that you could

649
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 5: fight next?

650
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 6: I don't know exactly, but everybody knows John Jones want

651
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 6: jumping this division. This is a good fight for the money.

652
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 6: Everybody know that, Like like I think, so, yeah, that

653
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 6: probably is tomorrow I win against Francis. Why not John Jones?

654
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 6: And I know the people want also to see this

655
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 6: fight because this will be a good matchup. He is

656
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 6: well wandered. I'm too, so this is probably will be

657
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 6: a really technical fight.

658
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: Look, that was the wrong clip. I should have teed

659
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: that up properly. But that's the one talking about John

660
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: Jones will certainly get into that. Uh you think he

661
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: was going to talk about the ending of the relationship

662
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: with Francis and so let's put that behind us. I

663
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: think they're putting it behind us. It's fight time. It's

664
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: how this breaks down. The folks at DraftKings right now. Still,

665
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: we'll have Cyril Gone the interim champion as your betting

666
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: favorite minus one p fifty Francis Nganu plus one thirty.

667
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: As we get into this look and figure it out

668
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: and unwrap it, both can win Dominantly. We've established that

669
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: we know that what are you going to be looking

670
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: for in round one?

671
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: I like to ask you it to you like that

672
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: that that.

673
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: Could that could tell you the most in terms of

674
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Speaker 1: which direction this is head.

675
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 3: So I would say that one of the biggest X

676
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 3: factors I'm going to be paying attention to is average well,

677
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: I would say, in this case, fight time. But their

678
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 3: average five time stood out to me when I looked

679
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 3: at the numbers. Francis's average five time, as you can

680
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 3: well imagine, is just five minutes and thirty eight seconds,

681
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 3: and if you take out the STPA fight, it's significantly

682
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 3: less than that. For Cyril Gone, by contrast, his average

683
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 3: five time is fifteen minutes. Now, it's not the actual

684
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 3: time that it runs, because if Cyril Gone is not

685
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: pushing any kind of pace, then Francis will just stand

686
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 3: there and have plenty of energy by rounds four or five. Obviously,

687
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 3: but you ask what I'm looking for at the beginning,

688
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 3: This is what I'm looking for, and it relates to

689
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: the fight time. A guy like Cyril Gone is very

690
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 3: much going to probe from the outside. You're going to

691
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 3: see a lot of oblique kicks to the knee. You're

692
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 3: gonna see a lot of pushkicks. He's going to be

693
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 3: on the move on the outside. You might start seeing

694
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: him mix in some jabs. He'll probably do it from

695
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 3: South Paul. He'll probably be cutting angles, maybe trying to

696
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: pressure all those who's to say, because you know Francis

697
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 3: by the way, as a professional fighter too, he's got

698
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 3: a game plan. We'll see how that goes. But if

699
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 3: it is successful for god BC, let's assume that is

700
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 3: what's happening here. He will begin to slowly heat up,

701
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 3: slowly heat up. By round three, you'll see him beginning

702
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: to switch back to orthodox and now really start pushing

703
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: on the volume, pushing on the pace. So what I'm

704
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: looking to see is to what extent either that comes

705
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 3: to life, because that will be involved in that fight time.

706
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 3: I think what Cyril wants to do is slowly start

707
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 3: ratchet it up round two, ratchet it up round three,

708
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 3: take him as deep as you can, or as deep

709
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 3: as you need to anyway, and then really put it

710
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: on him. Not just because he'll be more tired and

711
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: it'll be a little bit more labored. His decision making

712
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: won't be nearly as quick either. Everything in that sense

713
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: will be a step behind or BC, it won't because

714
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: Francis will disrupt it, lay one of the hammers on him,

715
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 3: and we don't have to worry about the fight going.

716
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: You just you just outlined exactly why the juxtaposition of

717
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: the two styles and the questions that we need answered

718
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: are so frickin interesting. And obviously we know Gon could

719
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: you know, be a wizard for four and a half

720
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: rounds and then catch the wrong shot. I mean, it's

721
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: just that there's there's dynamite in that, and that's a

722
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: big part of why we can't wait to watch it.

723
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: But obviously, when you're gonna do a preview this details,

724
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to ask the cynecal Devil's advocate questions

725
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: just the same. So, Luke, this morning I rewatched again

726
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: because both you and Dominic Cruz have preached my ignorance

727
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: in this category. The tape I watched the tape of

728
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: Don dismantling Dereck Lewis and Luca.

729
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: I don't discount.

730
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: At all that every little brilliant thing that Gon did,

731
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: like work the legs so consistently, like stand at range

732
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: and almost dare Derek Lewis to come on and push

733
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: up as a fast pace and all these brilliant things

734
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: that that Gon does and maybe only Gon can do.

735
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: When that fight hit, its hit, its uh, you know,

736
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: it's core. Once it was go time and we were

737
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: gonna figure it out, and Gon was either going to

738
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: get to the finish that he quickly did, or you know,

739
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: or he was or Lewis was finally gonna start committing

740
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: and throwing. You would have would you admit that Lewis

741
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: imploded in a way that was shocking And I do

742
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: not see under any circumstance in Gon whu reacting like that?

743
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: And I think we saw, you know, great evidence in

744
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: what wasn't otherwise disastrous lost to Stepe. We saw that

745
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: that he that he's gonna be here.

746
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: Luke, Oh yeah, I would agree with that analysis completely.

747
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 3: You know, I'm high on Gone. But I watched the

748
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 3: same fight this morning, just you know, for purposes of

749
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 3: this show refreshed my memory, and I had the same feeling.

750
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: But here's what I also did. I also watched the

751
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 3: Volkov fight with Cyril Gon, and here's a big difference.

752
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 3: Cyril Gon and that one came out and was really

753
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 3: inside of boxing range and was lighting him up with

754
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 3: the hands from the word go. Why, well, the guy

755
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 3: like Volkov is not quite as nimble as Derek. Believe

756
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 3: it or not. I don't think his footwork and his

757
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 3: movement is as fast. Not that Derek is like lightning

758
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: with it, but he's a little bit quicker when he

759
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 3: needs to be. More to the point, you just don't

760
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 3: want to be outside of the range of Volkov or

761
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 3: the range of the legs or the punch. So he

762
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 3: was really inside that space pushing him back, and it

763
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 3: was a very different kind of fight from the word

764
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 3: go than the one we saw against Derek Lowis. Why

765
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 3: do I bring all of this up because it just

766
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 3: shows you that Gon's fighting strategy fight over fight. There

767
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 3: will be some unifying themes and weapons, but it's highly customizable.

768
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 3: It's extremely customizable. What he did for Volkov looks in

769
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 3: many ways kinds of similar, but we paid atention to details.

770
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 3: It's actually a very very different game than the one

771
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 3: he did against Derek Lewis because they're very different fighters

772
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 3: with very different challenges. You need adjustment fight to fight,

773
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 3: but that's what you would see. So you're right, if

774
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 3: you look at that Lewis fight, you're like, oh, he

775
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: can do all this stuff and it will work on

776
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: Francis maybe some of it, with a lot of it won't.

777
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: That's a very effective countershot. You just landed of the

778
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: other side of it. And I mean, look, if if

779
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 1: if anyone had doubts, and you know I did.

780
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: I just didn't.

781
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: It's not that I was against Gon or or still am.

782
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 1: It's just, uh, I needed to see something. I saw

783
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: everything I needed to see in that vocal fight. Gon

784
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: was a motherfucker in that fight. And that guy can

785
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: can beat in Gohano. Absolutely, there's no question about it.

786
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: So as we as we get into this and and

787
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: as we stay in there in terms of that, if

788
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 1: I have one other fear for gone is this Luke.

789
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: I liked your interview in October with Ferdinand Lopez. I

790
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: sourced it a lot for a story that I wrote

791
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: yesterday about you know, Cyril Gon if he wins, like,

792
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: we're looking at heavyweight two points or three point zero,

793
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: however you want to look at it. We're looking at

794
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: a new breed of alien and maybe somebody who you know,

795
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,479
Speaker 1: is a game changer in terms of the skill set,

796
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: the IQ that a heavyweight could have. And I think

797
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: what was really interesting. I want to throw to a

798
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: piece of fernand Lopez just talking about a part of

799
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 1: this about what makes gone so good. But it's super

800
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: interesting in that regard. So let me throw that first

801
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: and then I'll bus back on the other side. Here's

802
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: an end Lopez with the great Lutans.

803
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 7: Mostly of the time is being set upround. This kid

804
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 7: is a computer. It's just a computer. I mean, I'm

805
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 7: dead leonest. When he shows up in the gym, didn't

806
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 7: know how to move like that because it was enough fight. Actually,

807
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 7: people they tend to think that serially is someone who

808
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 7: have all fighting and try to toush. We get tosh.

809
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 7: This is the device of the gym cirial. Actually, I

810
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 7: need to hold him on because if I release him,

811
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 7: he will just deep fight. He love the fight. He

812
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 7: loved the contact. He's a good kid, but with like

813
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 7: mantelity of fighting. You like the broad, you like you like.

814
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: Fat Look by the way, that's a seriously, that's a

815
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: great listen like he he you know you did.

816
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: You were great in guiding him.

817
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: But he's a very intellectual, uh you know way of

818
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: looking at this.

819
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: So look look, everybody shot shouts to him doing that

820
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 3: at the Barnes and Noble apparently.

821
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say his either his home library

822
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: is incredibly uh awesome or those are price tags right there, sir,

823
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: I can't really.

824
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 3: All his books are in English, so that's a thing.

825
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was interesting.

826
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: But look, look, obviously everybody has this one question about

827
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,479
Speaker 1: someone when they can't you know, like, right.

828
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: Now, this is almost a fifty to fifty five. You

829
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: saw that the betting odds.

830
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: Whoever you think is gonna win more or less, you're

831
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: probably thinking they're gonna win dominantly, like because they're gonna

832
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 1: have figured out and done something that that that shuts

833
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: down their opponent's best best laid plans.

834
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: My thing I can't get around is this, Luke.

835
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: What Fernan also said to you was that he knew

836
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: within Gon's initial transition from kickboxing muay Thai into MMA

837
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: that he's very talented, striking.

838
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 2: Wise in many ways.

839
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: And he basically said to himself, you know, it would

840
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: take a long time to get you up to speed

841
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: in wrestling. It would take a long time to get

842
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 1: you up to speed in some of the areas that

843
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: you just can't be that aren't as good as you're

844
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: striking that I want to teach you how to have

845
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: this ideal situation of hit and not get hit. I

846
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: want to teach you how to be at distance all

847
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: the time in such a perfect spot so nobody can

848
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: get close enough to take you down.

849
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: So now we can get close enough to apply any

850
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: level of damage on you.

851
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: And look, obviously you need someone the sick athlete transcendent

852
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: level of a serial Gond where finding out to pull

853
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: off something like that. But my fear in that being

854
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: the foundational makeup of how Cyril Gon was turned into

855
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 1: this great force that he is, was that was entirely.

856
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: Built upon avoidance.

857
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: When in the inevitably, Luke, somebody's gonna break through that

858
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: wall and you're gonna be on the negative side of

859
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: a fight, having to rally back and having to make changes,

860
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: where sometimes you get a Ronda Rousey situation in that

861
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: where someone dominates it by avoiding the dangers of their opponents.

862
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 2: By what, Rond, did you shed you down in tapping before.

863
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: You were even able to you know, educate, I'm sorry,

864
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: execute your game plan. But then when she had to

865
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: go toe to toe with with people in certain spots,

866
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: when it all fell apart, it fell apart completely. I'm

867
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: not saying I think gon Is, you know, has a

868
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: chance to be that much of a disaster in terms

869
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: of night and day. I just mean it's built upon

870
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: not knowing what it's gonna look like.

871
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: If somebody takes you to the deep wa.

872
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: No one can get to you to the deep waters

873
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: faster than franstan ghand no one on this planet, Luke.

874
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: The fact that we don't have an answer for.

875
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: That is the only thing right now that that mutes

876
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: this large and large noise coming out from the earth

877
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: that says Cyril Goan is the next great heavyweight.

878
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

879
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: Like I like, it's not that I don't hear that

880
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: or see that. I can't get over this question. Does

881
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: anything I just said make any sense to you?

882
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: I guess I just don't understand what you mean necessarily

883
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 3: by avoiding the fight. Here's what I'm here. Here's why

884
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: let me flesh out that question, because I do I

885
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 3: am interested in your answer. I'm not here to make

886
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 3: a counterpoint. Do you mean to say, like Ronda avoided

887
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 3: striking scenarios, not with like Betchkohea, but like in general,

888
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: you would like just try to wrap up and then

889
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 3: get on top right like Cyril gone. You know, he

890
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: lands five and a half strikes a minute and absorbs

891
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 3: two and a half a minute in all ranges. Like

892
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 3: he's not Are you saying he doesn't rall well enough?

893
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying he's I'm saying that he has figured

894
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: out a fighting system in which he has been able

895
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: to control the terms of the fight one hundred percent

896
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: of his time in there.

897
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 2: Like seriously, I went back and watched every.

898
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: Fight, like, like, you know, maybe not a hot okay,

899
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: ninety nine and point nine to eight percent of the

900
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: time he is in control of distance, he's smarter or

901
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: faster than his Like, look, these.

902
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: Are all compliments.

903
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: Idea is like what happens if he's on the backfoot metaphor?

904
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: Yes, And it's not that I it's not that I

905
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: see the self destruct button that people like Amir Khan has,

906
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: who's such a great talent, But can't you know Edmund

907
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: Schabasi And like you're like, you can't figure it out,

908
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: you know, even though the talent's there, he's it seems

909
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: like he's basically at the end of the day, it

910
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: seems like Sarah Gohn really is everything you think he is.

911
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: I just think this wrecking predator Luke is so is

912
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 2: so different that.

913
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: It's not that Gon couldn't come from behind and win

914
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: this fight if he has to. But he hasn't even

915
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: smelled the scenario like that, Luke.

916
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll just say this, like, I mean, if

917
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 3: your point is like, yeah, if you take those things away,

918
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 3: can serial win? I mean, if you take what those

919
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 3: conditions are for any fighter, they can't win. So yeah,

920
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: you're right, like that under that idea, he would certainly win.

921
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 3: I guess the thing that I would say, though, is like,

922
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: this is why I think the fight will be good

923
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 3: and why it's intriguing, and maybe I'll meet you halfway

924
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 3: a little. BC. Think about Wilder and Fury, not the

925
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: second fight, but like the first and the third one,

926
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 3: especially like the third one, Dude, Like, how much better

927
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: of a pure boxer is Tyson Fury than Deontay Wilder?

928
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 3: Just on pure boxing terms, man, pure boxing terms, Like

929
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 3: he's a lot better, Like it's a significant jump. But

930
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 3: because the fucking power of Wilder is so extraordinary and

931
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 3: he's tough as shit too, we give them credit there.

932
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 3: You know, he was able to make it close in

933
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 3: two of the fights basically right, I mean really close

934
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 3: in certain ways. I actually would argue that like that

935
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 3: framing isn't even fair to Francis here. Francis is not

936
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 3: just a one punch kind of dynamo. He actually has

937
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 3: a lot more going for him, So I actually think

938
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: it's close to that. But I'm just pointing out, like

939
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: the thing you're raising in the I pointed as I

940
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 3: think Gone is more cerebral than any of the other

941
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 3: fighters in this division. However, However, because Francis has such

942
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 3: physical gifts and he is more talented than just being

943
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: a dumb brute dude, it like, you know, the dynamism

944
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 3: and play here, he just cannot be ignored. Like Francis's

945
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 3: off switch potential is the greatest of any fighter I've

946
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: ever seen in mixed martial arts.

947
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: No exact, but it's not just that, wherewith Wilder it

948
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: was just that with within Ghanu, I think looked like

949
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 1: my my greatest actual fight question. I know I'm talking

950
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: very theatrical and generic here, but my greatest in fight

951
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: question is what happens if Francis gets a takedown and

952
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: moves the top position and is sort of a next

953
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: level ground abound at force. I mean, what if he's

954
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: a freaking nightmare down there?

955
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: We saw him.

956
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: He looked really good Againsteepe in that rematch was a

957
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: very small, you know, sample size, But like, those are

958
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: some of the things that I'm like, if you if

959
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: he starts going downhill like he may never, I don't think.

960
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can stop him, and not

961
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: even from a one punch scenario, more from he's just

962
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: gonna wall you and take you down.

963
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 3: Well, the only problem is Cyril gone granted ten fights total,

964
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: so keep that in mind. But he's got a one

965
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: hundred percent take down defensive rate. Now, also, Francis is

966
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 3: pretty good at seventy two percent. And again you throw

967
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 3: out the one Steepe fight when he was still early on,

968
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: and it's even better than that. It's actually very good.

969
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 3: So I actually think both of these guys are gonna

970
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 3: be hard to take down. B See, That's why I

971
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 3: keep going back to the time at the time, what's

972
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 3: gonna happen if Francis looks like a fucking dynamo through

973
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: three rounds where Cyril is trying this and this and

974
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 3: this and this and then nothing works. But then he

975
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 3: just gets a little bit too much spent on the

976
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 3: gas tank, and now he's a little bit more stationary,

977
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: and now the game changes a little bit, like there's

978
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 3: all kinds of ways to do. There are so many

979
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 3: I guess what I'm pointing out is there are so

980
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 3: many variables here where it could swing the fight in

981
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 3: a lot of different directions. Even if you think you

982
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 3: know Cyril or you think you know Francis, there's a

983
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 3: lot in play here. And so what makes the fight

984
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 3: exciting unknowable in certain ways? And I can't wait, I

985
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 3: can't wait.

986
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: What do you think initiates the first heat up?

987
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: The first time that you know they touch gloves, it's

988
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: gonna be dramatic, intense, is shit?

989
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 2: You know, it's gonna be really a fun It's gonna

990
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: be a fun ride.

991
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, But the first time they both commit to

992
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: letting go combinations at say time, who's gonna be the

993
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: one that initiates that?

994
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 3: Ooh, Cyril's a good counter fighter, so Francis might be

995
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 3: the initiator. I think to get we're like a bit

996
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 3: of a back and forth because I don't think Cerel's

997
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 3: gonna want to plant and dude, you can't take clean

998
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 3: punches from Francis, and he probably knows that, dude, he

999
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 3: probably knows that better than we do. You cannot do it.

1000
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 3: So I think it's gonna have to be Cyril kind

1001
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 3: of sticking to moving the best of his ability and

1002
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 3: then you know, rolling with something and then coming back

1003
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 3: with something else.

1004
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 2: I mean, Luke not not to sit here and chet

1005
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 2: on Derek Lewis.

1006
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: It's not my intention at all, like but that that

1007
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: fight was disastrous the way it went for him. It's

1008
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: just that, like he never got to a point where

1009
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: he's just like, f it, I'm going for it. And

1010
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: that's what we were all hoping you know, his coaches

1011
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: are almost hoping for that, the fans were hoping for that.

1012
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 2: Francis is gonna get to that point so much faster.

1013
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: Whether he's able to ever.

1014
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: Land on Gon or not, we're gonna find out that

1015
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: answer so much so I cannot see Gon even if

1016
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: I can imagine him winning, even God, you know, Gon

1017
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: coming out and pitching a shot out the first three

1018
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: rounds and we're like, oh shit, it's working. I can't

1019
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: imagine it. Be it dominantly working like it did to Lewis, right,

1020
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: like he shot Lewis the hell down.

1021
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 3: Dude, Lewis was that was a bad matchup for Derek.

1022
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I think we could both agree, right, like

1023
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 3: the way in which Cyril fights is uniquely good for

1024
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 3: beating the kind of fighters like Derek Lewis. It's just

1025
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: not fair to him, and you're not gonna see You're like,

1026
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 3: if you're trying to understand why people like Derek Lewis,

1027
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 3: you wouldn't watch that fight. There might be some other

1028
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: losses that you watch. Actually BC part of his not

1029
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 3: right right? Well, you would agree though, like part of

1030
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 3: his charm is obviously his amazing knockout power. But you know,

1031
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 3: he's been in tough fights where he looked shitty and

1032
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 3: pulled it out or whatever, or looked good and then

1033
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 3: didn't win. But this was one where he just looked

1034
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 3: bad or out of it or you know, a step

1035
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 3: behind the entire way, and then when he fell apart,

1036
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 3: he just fell apart pretty quickly. I would agree. It's

1037
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 3: not Derek Lewis's best showing and it was never gonna be,

1038
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 3: you know.

1039
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: Okay, So I like how you initially to paint a great,

1040
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: you know, debate picture why gon is you know, maybe

1041
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: even better than I realize, is that you believe Gon

1042
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: can be a chameleon, or you've seen proof of it,

1043
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: then no matter who's the style, like so against Louis,

1044
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: Gon really set up shop at very close firing range.

1045
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,280
Speaker 1: And it was purposeful to you know, but it didn't

1046
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: welcome Lewis to come on.

1047
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 2: It intimidated him in a lot of ways.

1048
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 3: And he and and not just that he was getting

1049
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 3: countered a lot. So every time he threw, he was

1050
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 3: having to eat something for it, and he didn't know

1051
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: what to do about it.

1052
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: How close then can Gon set up shop to in Ghanu?

1053
00:47:58,880 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: Considering the reach and.

1054
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: Obviously the ridiculous explosive fight ending power, how close can

1055
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: he can he operate?

1056
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: Does? So?

1057
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: My question is does he have to be more of

1058
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: a of a darting in and out style or is

1059
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: there just a line close enough where he can set up,

1060
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: set up you know, the dig in deep and say

1061
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: this you know now or nothing.

1062
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 3: I have a feeling that you're gonna see a lot

1063
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 3: of South Paul because from South Paw you'll see that

1064
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 3: uh Cyril, Gon loves to cut angles almost like Usik

1065
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 3: does a little bit not Usik is like a lesser

1066
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 3: version in the angle cutting of Lomachenko and gone Is

1067
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 3: even you know, it's mma, it's a different sport. It's

1068
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 3: a little bit less than that. But like these these

1069
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 3: he really is big on finding dominant angles. Who that

1070
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 3: southpaw stands. I think I think you're gonna see a

1071
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 3: lot of that you're asking about, like, you know, what

1072
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 3: else might he do here? Basically a roundabout way of

1073
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 3: talking about it. No one's will no one's will be discussing.

1074
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 3: I think two operative things we really need to talk about. One.

1075
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 3: I think gon is I don't know if he's gonna

1076
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 3: get it. I think he's gonna pursue the takedown. And

1077
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 3: I think the takedown is going to be a key portion,

1078
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 3: even the threat of the takedown, because dude, again, you

1079
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 3: got to get Francis engaged in something else before you

1080
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 3: even attempt an attack. And if he's worried about that

1081
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 3: takedown for whatever reason you're doing to him, that can

1082
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 3: have a pretty important impact.

1083
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: I think that's a major point, and I hadn't thought

1084
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 1: about that scenario enough. Gon can using his offensive wrestling

1085
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: as a weapon.

1086
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 3: God Gon has also submission skills too, don't forget.

1087
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: That absolutely, which would certainly come into play if if

1088
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: Francis was fatigued. But uh, that's probably your best, the

1089
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: best counter argument to someone like me who's like, you know,

1090
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: I just can't see him doing this to this level

1091
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: of beast.

1092
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, do you want to slug it out with

1093
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 3: Francis for twenty five minutes?

1094
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: Well, you know, so as we try to create in

1095
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: our head what what could be the best game plan

1096
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: for God, that's it, man, because you're not gonna.

1097
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 3: Talk about one more thing though that I think actually

1098
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 3: you might work in Francis's favor, and no one's talking

1099
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 3: about hold.

1100
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 2: On Luke, I want to stay on Hu. Should it be.

1101
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: Gon's main focus beyond avoid getting knocked out? Should his

1102
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: main focus be the gas out Francis? Yes, and he

1103
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: could do that, Yeah, he could do that in the

1104
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: traditional boxing way or with the takedowns like you said,

1105
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: but that should be number one without questioning his goal

1106
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: in this Dude.

1107
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 3: It's the same game plan that I thought, like all

1108
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 3: these guys who want to go in there and strike

1109
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 3: with Connor in the first round, and we're talking Pete

1110
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 3: Connor like up to twenty sixteen when he was on

1111
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 3: that amazing hot streak. I'm like, stop going in there

1112
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 3: and striking with him in the first round, even if

1113
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 3: you think he can now, Connor's a little bit different.

1114
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 3: I think he's feeling it in that first round. In

1115
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 3: addition to his considerable skill set. Again we're talking twenty sixteen, Connor,

1116
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 3: the guy who fought you know, Jose and then Eddie Alvarez.

1117
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 3: You know, at that time he had really great range management.

1118
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 3: He was just hot from the first minute. I don't

1119
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 3: know if Francis is hot and cold like that, but

1120
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 3: you can well imagine at the beginning of a fight

1121
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 3: his power, while it might carry late as well, his

1122
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 3: power in the first and second round is going to

1123
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 3: be fucking extraordinary. So why are you out there fucking

1124
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 3: struggling with him? What did Habib do? Habib didn't even

1125
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 3: try in the first round to do anything other than

1126
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 3: fucking hold this guy down and make his arms work.

1127
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 3: And then what are you do in the second round?

1128
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 3: Faked low and then came up top. That was exactly

1129
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 3: what he did. Dude. I'm not saying you're gonna see

1130
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 3: gone to a Habib two point h or whatever, but

1131
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 3: taking elements of that strategically. I think he might think

1132
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 3: he really might I.

1133
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 2: Talk about this other thing, dude, No, no, I see.

1134
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: I can't get you onto the other thing yet, Luke,

1135
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: because you're you're painting on such a great picture of

1136
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: how they will counter each other and these key strategic

1137
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: things that are gonna fly by right in front of us,

1138
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: and the idea of gassing out so purposefully in Ghanu

1139
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: is so interesting that do you think you even take

1140
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: a bit of a gamble if you're gone and you

1141
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: have great Stamma, you know so far everything we've seen

1142
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: from God is you've got a great guess tank. But

1143
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: what if you like step it up double time in

1144
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: rounds one and two to try to just say, look,

1145
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: I trust that I trust that I can getting Ghanu

1146
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: gassed before I can guess myself out trying do you

1147
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Luke? Should he be trying to

1148
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: not just aim to guess him out, but really weaponize

1149
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: the potential of what that can do.

1150
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 3: I don't think he should, Like, dude, if you have

1151
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 3: to worry about yes, of course, there are times to

1152
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 3: really pursue something in a ferocious way if you have

1153
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 3: an opponent hurt in your mount. Yes, just unloading with strikes.

1154
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 3: You know that can be tiresome. You know, people could talk,

1155
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 3: you know, blowing your water or whatever, and then you

1156
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 3: have to fight later on. But I would say, generally

1157
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 3: speaking as a rule, if more work can't be factored

1158
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 3: into your game plan, you probably don't have good enough cardio.

1159
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 3: So I would actually argue, like him laboring himself to

1160
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 3: tire out Francis, Yes, there are best practices around that.

1161
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 3: But if you can't do that, like you got a

1162
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 3: bit of a problem, you should That could be the question.

1163
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 3: The question should Francis ahead, the question should be can

1164
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 3: Francis lean on metaphorically and literally Cyril to wear him

1165
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 3: out through what he's doing. Because another thing you might

1166
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 3: see from Cyril, remember as a tie background, a tie

1167
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 3: boxing background. One way to avoid some of the bigger

1168
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 3: punches and strikes from Francis is to be all the

1169
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 3: way away, or is to be right up on top

1170
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 3: of them. A clinch, an aggressive controlled clinch where you're

1171
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 3: the one dominating the space. But you can see that

1172
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 3: as well. Knees to the body over and over again,

1173
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 3: pulling him, turning him, whipping him. That could be that.

1174
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 3: I mean Francis is probably very strong, but you know,

1175
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 3: if you can fight in that space. Look, look, go

1176
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 3: look at some of the smartning footage. Where was he

1177
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 3: throwing at elbow range? That's where you would want to

1178
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 3: be with Francis. You don't want to be all the

1179
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 3: way out or you know, right in mid range or whatever.

1180
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: Luke sometimes art imitates life in these situations.

1181
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: In terms of good. Now, I'll keep going.

1182
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: Look, I just fell off the cliff I had and

1183
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: it was it was common.

1184
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 3: Look it was One's the thing that no one's talking

1185
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 3: about that I really just want to put in the

1186
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 3: heads of people because you're like, well, how much of

1187
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 3: a role will it play? There's no way to know,

1188
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 3: but dude, I am very much of the belief. Now,

1189
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 3: we've not talked to the judges, so I can't say

1190
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 3: this with any degree of real certainty, but I'm giving

1191
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,959
Speaker 3: you my opinion, my opinion strongly that the only reason

1192
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 3: John Jones beat Dominic Reyes on the judges' scorecards is

1193
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 3: because of the rule set that Texas employees, which values

1194
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 3: forward pressure even if the person who is being pressured

1195
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 3: back is doing so strategically for the best benefit of

1196
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 3: their game plan. After is something. Here's something you have

1197
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 3: to consider. What if it ends up being like Francis

1198
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 3: stalking big cage. We're not in the apex. It's not

1199
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 3: the small cage, it's the big cage. Francis is stalking

1200
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 3: and Cyril's trying a game plan of just pot shotting him,

1201
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 3: and maybe it's working a little bit, not doing a

1202
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 3: whole lot. It's landing, and maybe Francis slams big leg

1203
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 3: kicks or the occasional things he's chasing him. It's a

1204
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 3: boring fight and he goes twenty five minutes. Maybe you

1205
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 3: don't even think Cyril deserves the win, and they just

1206
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 3: give the nod to Francis. I'm just pointing out there

1207
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 3: are a couple of permutations where if Francis is marching

1208
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 3: on this guy, he might get the benefit of the

1209
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 3: doubt just because of the rule set, even if he shouldn't.

1210
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 3: So just pay attention to what's happening there.

1211
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: What's the percentage out of one hundred you believe this

1212
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 1: fight goes the distance under whoever wins.

1213
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 2: Under your.

1214
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 3: Twenty five percent, I think it's very likely a finish

1215
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 3: is achieved.

1216
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you okay, that's interesting.

1217
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,439
Speaker 1: So if you believe if Gon does execute his game plan,

1218
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: that either it will succeed in getting you know, in

1219
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: guessing out you know, uh in Ghano and getting him there,

1220
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 1: or do you believe that.

1221
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 2: Don could just step in and make that up.

1222
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 3: Well, we all know Francis's big fight potential is in

1223
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 3: terms of vicious stoppages is pretty high. So there's that.

1224
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 3: And then on the gone side. You know, at first

1225
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 3: I did not necessarily see him doing that, but you know,

1226
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 3: in thinking about it a little bit, I actually do.

1227
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 3: I think Francis is tough a shoe leather, but I

1228
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 3: just I don't know. For some reason, I got a

1229
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 3: feeling that, like, if Gon is to win, you know,

1230
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 3: going twenty five minutes with that beast, unless you're wrestling

1231
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 3: with him a lot, is probably going to be very difficult.

1232
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 3: I think he's got a lot of finishing skills when

1233
00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 3: he needs them, and I think I'll find them here.

1234
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: What I was gonna ask you before is related to this,

1235
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: when I had that aneurysm, sorry, Luke, is that the

1236
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: sometimes our imitating life and vice versa a head kick

1237
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: knockout from Benganu.

1238
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 2: How much is that on your radar?

1239
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: It would be sort of like, oh, you know whether

1240
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 1: or not I did it to you in practice, which

1241
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: we're you know, arguing about right now. You know, we

1242
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: saw that with like Mandon Newness purposely wanted to get

1243
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: a first round head kick knock out of home, you know,

1244
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: just sort of like we saw that when when when

1245
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,479
Speaker 1: Betchk he asked for it, Luke, and then Holly Holm

1246
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: gave it to her right after. If Francis is able

1247
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: to be a threat, a legitimate threat, if he has

1248
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: added that to his game, or he is somehow a

1249
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: legitimate high kick knockout threat, He's never gonna lose.

1250
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 2: Again, Luke. I mean, like this this is like we

1251
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 2: could like, is there is that possible?

1252
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: Is it possible for him to level up even higher

1253
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: to like scariest?

1254
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 3: I appreciate your question. Is is something I like about

1255
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 3: a guy I like? Possible? Yes?

1256
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: I mean, like, what the hell is Francis?

1257
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: This is danger ceiling for like the improvement he may

1258
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,240
Speaker 1: have made since the last fight, or not just the improvement,

1259
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 1: but like we haven't seen him forced to try it yet.

1260
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 3: That's an interesting question. I mean I thought that his

1261
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 3: the difference between what he showed in the rosenstrike fight

1262
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 3: for all eighteen seconds, and then what he showed Againstepe

1263
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 3: the second time is two completely different fighters. And the

1264
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 3: one against step A was just a force of nature.

1265
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 3: You know. If he can build on that and keep

1266
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 3: his composure, dude, he can beat anybody. He can beat anybody.

1267
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 3: I mean, who could deny it? Right? If he can

1268
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 3: do that, Let's just see. Let's just see. The best

1269
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 3: fighters are the ones that typically typically are the ones

1270
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 3: that can define the terms of a fight, and Francis

1271
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 3: has done that very successfully a lot of times.

1272
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of let's see, it's time for us to

1273
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: make our official predictions. Even though, Luke, you don't do predictions,

1274
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: and even though you don't believe in predictions, it's time

1275
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: for you to deliver a prediction, Luke Thomas, who wins

1276
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: how this fight end?

1277
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 3: Yes, predictions are silly, So this is just for fun.

1278
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 3: I would not use this as betting advice. Forced to

1279
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 3: make a pick for fun, though, I'll probably go with Gone.

1280
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 3: I think Gone is about the most sophisticated best practices

1281
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 3: of the modern style of striking I've seen, not in

1282
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 3: all of UFC, but certainly in all of you UFC

1283
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 3: heavyweight division. I don't think folks really understand how special

1284
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 3: he is because he hasn't made a big splash necessarily,

1285
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 3: even though you know, insiders understand how good he is,

1286
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 3: but he hasn't had that, He hasn't commanded that presence,

1287
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 3: and I have a feeling he's going to do that

1288
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 3: by Saturday.

1289
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 2: Luke, I might be the serial gun of broadcasting.

1290
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 3: No, you're You're much more than Michael Bisming. You've only

1291
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 3: got one good eye because shampoo took one of them,

1292
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 3: and in the late chapters of your career you're fucking

1293
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 3: kicking ass.

1294
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: That is also a great point, Luke.

1295
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, interesting, Luke, you made a great argument this

1296
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: entire show against anyone looking at this fifty to fifty

1297
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: amazing fight and not picking Francis and Ghano and all

1298
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: that stuff is true, and Gon very well might be,

1299
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: you know, everything I thought he could be and more,

1300
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: and it still might not matter. And I think, Luke,

1301
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: I'm staying on this side of the field like it.

1302
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna ask certain questions of Gon in this fight

1303
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: to win this that we haven't seen him answer yet.

1304
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 2: Uh.

1305
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: The same is true though for Francis and Gando, meaning

1306
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: I think he can be even scarier than we realize,

1307
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna show that He's gonna have

1308
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: to probably lose the first couple of rounds, Luke, But

1309
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: I think Francis can is gonna retain enough stamina there

1310
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: in round three, because Luke, that's the key. I think

1311
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: the middle ground on our predictions in a lot of

1312
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: ways is if Francis doesn't get gassed out, but does

1313
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: clearly lose the first couple rounds, like Gon's system is

1314
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: implemented and working to a certain level, not enough to

1315
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: land crazy heavy shots that will changed the you know,

1316
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: of course of the fight, and not enough to you know,

1317
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: but like if if in Ghano can keep it at

1318
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: least at that level and keep that keep enough fuel

1319
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: in that tank to load up that gun, not just

1320
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: lucky chance, but actually set something.

1321
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 2: Up, he'll get it. Luke, you can't go.

1322
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: You can't You cannot go twenty five minutes with the

1323
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: version of this guy, no matter what you bring to

1324
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: the table. I think God brings something better to the

1325
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: table than any other person on the planet could. And

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01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: I still thinking God is gonna get us a third

1327
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: round finish here, And Luke, I can't friggin Luke, I

1328
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: mean what you are you rock hard with emotion just

1329
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: thinking about this fight? Or am am I alone here

1330
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: Luke trying to carry this lumber through customs.

1331
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 3: I mean, please, I don't have as quite as much

1332
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 3: pins and needles as you. But yes, it's a tremendous contest, right, very.

1333
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 2: Very diplomatic of you.

1334
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 3: I have a very listen. I mean, listen, here's the thing.

1335
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 3: This is why it's so weird. It's like I have

1336
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 3: a very strong belief in God to win this. However, however,

1337
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 3: it's like, dude, Frances We've talked about a million times.

1338
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 3: Francis's ability to find the off switch is pretty pronounced

1339
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 3: like either this is gonna be some kind of coronation

1340
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 3: of God or his ass is gonna wake up looking

1341
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 3: at the lights. Like it's not too hard to figure

1342
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 3: out in that sense, it's just hard to know exactly

1343
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 3: which way it's going to go.

1344
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: You know, that was just you know, some old school

1345
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: dad reaction right there, But I understand it.

1346
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 2: Lude like I get it.

1347
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, comain event, Luke Davidson

1348
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: FIGUREDO is gonna try one more time to put that

1349
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: one two five strap around him in a third fight

1350
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: with Mexico's first UFC champion, Brandon Moreno. Luke, I think

1351
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: Moreno has continued to win every public press situation he's in.

1352
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: Look he had is he is his charismatic ucan't deny personality, Amanda,

1353
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: heboss level.

1354
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 8: Would you say he might be liked, He's liked more Well,

1355
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 8: he's more popular than she is, so it's hard to

1356
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 8: compare apples to apples, but he is superbly Well, however

1357
01:01:59,160 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 8: much I'm hated.

1358
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 3: That's how much he's like. Yeah, that's a lot, Bro,

1359
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 3: that's a lot.

1360
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's uh yeah, he's on fire, Luke.

1361
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: Uh, he's the favorite here heading into the trilogy about

1362
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: We've debated and argued whether this fight even needs to happen,

1363
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: but we know it has the potential to be all

1364
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: action and fun and crazy. The betting odds at the

1365
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: moment from DraftKings minus one eighty Brandon Moreno your favorite

1366
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: plus one fifty five Figuredo, So, Luke, that is showing

1367
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: the respect that the thirty four year old Figureo Figuredo

1368
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: is not only a great finisher, but he's gonna he's

1369
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 1: gonna give it everything he has to try to get that, like,

1370
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna get his best punch, whether he's physically able

1371
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: to do it or not, you're gonna get him going

1372
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: for it. That does show a lot of respect though

1373
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: that people believe he's very much in this fight early

1374
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: on to get you know, potentially to get a finished

1375
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: Would you agree with.

1376
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 3: That, FIGUREDO, Yes, I don't know. Man. I watched the

1377
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 3: last one again. The first fight was obviously just bananas,

1378
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 3: and then I watched the second one again and it

1379
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 3: was even more impressive on rewatch. Man Marine was not

1380
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 3: the entire time, but for long stretches of this fight

1381
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 3: just a step ahead. That was the opposite of their

1382
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 3: first fight, where I thought he was like in it,

1383
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 3: but maybe a little bit behind, playing catch up at times,

1384
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 3: you know, but kind of raising his game in a

1385
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 3: way we didn't know he could, like over overachieving in

1386
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 3: certain ways, but coming up a little bit short in

1387
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 3: the end. Not the second time they fought, he was

1388
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 3: he just ran his ass over.

1389
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 2: I I feel like, look he kicked out of him.

1390
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't It wasn't close, and like you know,

1391
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 3: I I by the way, he just made weight. He

1392
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 3: was the first one I think to make weight of

1393
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 3: all maybe all the fighters, certainly of all the championship

1394
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 3: fighters on this card. So shouts of Rand and Raino

1395
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 3: coming in at one twenty four. But dude, he his

1396
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 3: his improvement is so we talked about on Wednesday, so

1397
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 3: extreme and then more than that. Dude, you know you

1398
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 3: can see on him he knew he was going to

1399
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 3: win that day. You can see it on his face.

1400
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 3: You could not see on a figuredo's face. He just

1401
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 3: went in there with an absolute sense of purpose. I

1402
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 3: feel like, you know, it's sometimes fighters can get a

1403
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 3: lot out of themselves when they're angry at the world,

1404
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 3: right for long stretches, that can be true. But I

1405
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 3: don't see Moreno as the angry type. So I think

1406
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 3: he's the opposite, right, He's the guy who's gonna thrive

1407
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 3: off of happiness and fulfillment and family and whatever else.

1408
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 3: And he's got all of that and then some. I

1409
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 3: really believe you're gonna see a strong performance from Brandon

1410
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 3: Moreno to morrow.

1411
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 5: Okay.

1412
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: On the flip side, Luke, Well, and this is a

1413
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 1: key question to answer, how you could look at this

1414
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 1: fight and the betting odds are pretty damn close. As

1415
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: we mentioned right there, are.

1416
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 2: What are the odds that you believe.

1417
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: Moreno has improved more than Figuredo has the ability to

1418
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 1: show you that that second fight was naboration, meaning how

1419
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: much does this weight cut decide what this fight looks like?

1420
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: Because it really comes down to do you think the

1421
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: Figuredo from the second fight was just completely weight drained

1422
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 1: it was you know, just was a bad cut and

1423
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't him, or do you believe that whether or

1424
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 1: not it was him, MARINAE, it's just.

1425
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 3: Better right the ladder the ladder. I don't have a

1426
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 3: I don't have a doubt that weightcut messes with him.

1427
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 3: I think he'd be an idiot to assume that like

1428
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 3: he's normal or the same, even fight over fight. I mean,

1429
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 3: he is cutting an extraordinary amount of weight, and I'm sorry,

1430
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 3: even small changes in your prep could yield big differences,

1431
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 3: both in terms of whether you make it and how

1432
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 3: you make it and what you had to do to

1433
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 3: make it. And so whenever he makes it, that's impressive,

1434
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 3: but he's not gonna be the same every time. That's

1435
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 3: a shitload he is costing himself for whatever benefits are there.

1436
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 3: So No, I don't really think it's that he might

1437
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 3: have a better cut this time. I hope he does.

1438
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 3: I'll he gets the best kind of cut. But it

1439
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 3: looked to me like Moreno figured out what he needed

1440
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 3: to know about himself and about some of the specifics

1441
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 3: of Figuredo's game in that first fight, and there's you

1442
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 3: can't put the toothpaste back into tube at this point. Now,

1443
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 3: I will say, not the same as Francis and Gon,

1444
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 3: but it is worth pointing out. For one twenty five,

1445
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 3: Figuredo has a massive punch and obviously great. He has

1446
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 3: a great he can snatch a baguillotine when he needs one,

1447
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 3: so you know, his fight any potential is high. But

1448
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 3: I just think Marino is a step ahead.

1449
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 2: Is Figuredo a poor man's piple, Patricia.

1450
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 3: He's a little different. He's a little different. He's much

1451
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 3: more of a grappler first and puncher second in terms

1452
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 3: of like where his skill development comes fromm So not exactly, not.

1453
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,919
Speaker 2: Exactly, all right, let's weigh in. Let's give a final

1454
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 2: way in on his swagger.

1455
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: Luke, he did you know an interview with me over

1456
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: before the last fight, shirtless with sunglasses on. He gets

1457
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: that streak put into his hairy travels as we saw

1458
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 1: it embedded full time with it with a hairdresser, which

1459
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: is which I mean, that's some championship right there, Lukey, can't.

1460
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, love it or hate it? The

1461
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 2: underdog's on top.

1462
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: He had a grill on his teeth in the press

1463
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 1: conference this week, and like we saw he was, he

1464
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: was a clown of of that same presser. Maybe the

1465
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: attempts at trash talk missed. It's hard to tell. He

1466
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: did draw a legitimate heat from the crowd there, like

1467
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: pro wrestling. He uh, is this guy cool or not? Luke,

1468
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 1: because he has a savage man.

1469
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 2: He don't. He don't care, Luke.

1470
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 3: Well, I'll say this, A figuredo just made waight. He

1471
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 3: made one twenty four and he looks I mean he

1472
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 3: looks sucked out, don't get me wrong, but he looks

1473
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 3: like from an attitude standpoint, like the ease with which

1474
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 3: he made it, he looks great. He came in a

1475
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 3: pound under, he's smiling, he's flexing, he's got a ton

1476
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 3: of energy. So there you go. To answer the question previously,

1477
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna be relevant, but yeah, dude,

1478
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 3: like he it was terrible yesterday that press I was like, dude,

1479
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 3: what are you doing? Like this is a poor man's

1480
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 3: poor man's poor man's poor man's Colby Covington, this is

1481
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 3: just you.

1482
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 1: It was like it was like fifth rate Mosviital, which

1483
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: makes it like fifth rate Tony Montana. So it's like

1484
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 1: those direct to video action flicks that like show up

1485
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: on these apps and you're like, you know what, this

1486
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: movie probably sucks, but you know, I could probably still

1487
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 1: enjoy it because it's just shitty action.

1488
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 2: He's that he's the star of that movie, sa.

1489
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 3: Dude, like and again I keep going back to it,

1490
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 3: but liked trying to insult someone in another language. It's

1491
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 3: hard to do. It's hard to do. Uh and Bohashena

1492
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 3: has fucked it up at times, you know where it's like,

1493
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 3: you know, Vanderlay, I want to fuck Chuck. It's like

1494
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 3: I don't think you do. I don't think that's right.

1495
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 3: You gotta be careful with that otherwise it ends up backfiring,

1496
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 3: all right, Whether.

1497
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 2: He's cool or not.

1498
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: Luke, the odds tell you he is a threat in

1499
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: this one. His history, his the class he is as

1500
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: a fighter tells you that it's very possible, even at

1501
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: thirty four. But what's more likely to happen. I believe

1502
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: that you're gonna pick Moreno. Maybe you've already said I

1503
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 1: don't know, I feel it coming out of you. Is

1504
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 1: it more likely then that Moreno dominates, maybe even faster

1505
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 1: than the second fight, or that.

1506
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 2: Moreno still wins. But this is the best fight of

1507
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 2: the trilogy.

1508
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 3: Luke, I think it might be that. I think it

1509
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 3: might be that. I think Figureedo is probably gonna have

1510
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 3: a couple extra things he tries, which is gonna throw

1511
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 3: a wrench into some of Moreno's plans, which means we're

1512
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 3: gonna have to see Moreno adapt adjust, take take some

1513
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 3: time to figure things out to a new direction. But

1514
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 3: I don't I don't think Figuredo again he's got a

1515
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 3: big punch. He never know, right, we never know. But

1516
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 3: provided that Moreno is still kind of in it, as

1517
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 3: long as the fight is continuing and he's not in

1518
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 3: being mounted, he can win anywhere, right, He can win

1519
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 3: that fight. People don't people think he can only win

1520
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 3: on the feet or some shit, or or or he

1521
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 3: has to win there first before going to the ground

1522
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 3: or something. He can win that fight anywhere, on top,

1523
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 3: on his back, on his feet, whatever.

1524
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: So what's interesting is Figuredo's the one who is has

1525
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: Henry s Judo as a coach for this fight, and

1526
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: that may or may not mean anything into this one.

1527
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: It will be interesting to see. But do you think

1528
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,759
Speaker 1: Moreno can win this fight strictly on offensive wresting?

1529
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 3: No, Figaredo's guard is too good. No, and his back

1530
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 3: taking ability is too good. But but could he win

1531
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 3: with a wrestling dominant game plan?

1532
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 2: Yeah that's more likely.

1533
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 3: Yeah likely?

1534
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I just got excited about this fight again, Louke. Okay,

1535
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: So it is great matchmaking.

1536
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 3: It will be fun, it will be You can argue against.

1537
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 1: It for a couple you know, nerdy reasons, but it

1538
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: is great matchmaking. Look what else on this card is

1539
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 1: moving your needle? When Michelle Paneda's coming in there against

1540
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 1: Andre Fiallo, uh minus two to eighty Pernada as the favorite, Luke,

1541
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: Uh tell me which version of this sometimes theatrically amazing

1542
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 1: and sometimes weird as shit welterweight is at and where

1543
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 1: he's going?

1544
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 3: What is he gonna look like in this I don't

1545
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 3: really care about this fight, so I'm gonna answer the

1546
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 3: question that you asked me at the beginning of your sentence,

1547
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 3: which was what other fights do you care about on this?

1548
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 1: My god, you have no you will you would? You

1549
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 1: would go to the bathroom during this fight, is.

1550
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 2: What you're saying.

1551
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 3: I don't care about this fight in any capacity whatsoever.

1552
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 3: It does nothing for me.

1553
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 1: Wow, you had the the intensity of a of a

1554
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: racist right there, Luke.

1555
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you saying that is a racist statement.

1556
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 2: I'm saying you have that same energy. Look, okay, you

1557
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 2: know it's actually not racial energy. But you're like this fight.

1558
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I don't, I just do This card is

1559
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 3: not good. We should just say it's not good. Obviously

1560
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 3: the main and comin are great, but the card is weak,

1561
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 3: and all.

1562
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 2: Right, what what should I watch out for?

1563
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,679
Speaker 1: Then, Luke, imm it talk to me about Jack Della

1564
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: mat Madat Delaine.

1565
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 3: I look, come on, I won't. And I was gonna

1566
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 3: talk about judelfo Vieira and Wellington termin but that fight

1567
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 3: is now off. So the card got even weaker. But

1568
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 3: the one you have to pay attention to is Ilio

1569
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 3: to Aporia and Charles Jordan out of Canada. Here we

1570
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 3: have two top prospects two different parts of the world.

1571
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 3: Georgia slash Spain against French Canada or wherever part of

1572
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 3: Canada he's from. I'm assuming it's Quebec. But you know,

1573
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 3: two different styles, two young guns, two guys who are

1574
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 3: who can if they need to well in the case

1575
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 3: of jordanaic who can grind to Pooria. We know he's

1576
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 3: very talented. What happens if this fight goes late and

1577
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 3: you know, beating a guy the quality of Jordana, if

1578
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 3: that's what ends up happening or vice versa, will tell

1579
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 3: you a lot about the upside of the other guy.

1580
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 3: I fucking love this fight, even though Jordan been up

1581
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,600
Speaker 3: against it a little bit because he's coming in in

1582
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 3: short notice. But great, great, great fight, easily the third

1583
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 3: the best fight on this card, not the main and

1584
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 3: coman If you all.

1585
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 1: Right, your energy just went from racist to like guy

1586
01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: makes his own beer in his garage and he really

1587
01:11:59,400 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: wants to tell.

1588
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 3: You, you know, like that was awesome.

1589
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was interesting, Luke quickly, Kay Hanson's back and

1590
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:09,440
Speaker 1: like you know, Miranda Maverick. They look to be potential

1591
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 1: like Rousy two point zero evolutions, but Kay's coming off

1592
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:16,480
Speaker 1: of a defeat. Are you interested in this fight against Jasmine? Jared?

1593
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: Would you pronounce the last name. Luke, I, oh, there

1594
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: you go, there you go? Is that Lithuanian Lucas?

1595
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 3: I mean it sounds it. I think that it is.

1596
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you tell me, maybe I need to get

1597
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 1: in on the inside of this fight. Do you still

1598
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 1: have monster high hopes for kay Hanson or no?

1599
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 3: I don't know where the high. I mean, she's young

1600
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 3: and she's good. Let's say it out loud. She is

1601
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,480
Speaker 3: a young fighter, very young, and she is quite talented,

1602
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,719
Speaker 3: there is no denying it. But she's still quite green.

1603
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 3: Like this idea is like she's gonna be I'm not

1604
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 3: in any way suggesting she will not be a high level,

1605
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 3: high ranked, potentially even championship fighter. What I am saying

1606
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 3: is she's at the bottom of this fight card against Jasmine,

1607
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 3: just Suitivisius because she is quite green. Both of them

1608
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 3: are quite green. They still have a long way to

1609
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 3: go before even near peak development. So, yes, she's talented,

1610
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 3: but this is a very early step.

1611
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah that's fair, Luke. Wow, this card does blow, Luke.

1612
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trying to get excited about it.

1613
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 3: It's bad. The card is not in any way good.

1614
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 3: It sucks, all right, Luke.

1615
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 1: Also on Saturday, night, We've got Showtime Championship Boxing and

1616
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 1: it's going down in Atlantic City from the Borgata and

1617
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 1: Luke one of the most talented fighters in the world.

1618
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, he don't fight a lot, is he? He don't

1619
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 2: fight a lot.

1620
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: Gary Russell Junior, who is the longest I believe the

1621
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 1: longest reigning male title holder at the moment, going back

1622
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 1: to twenty fifteen of his featherweight WBC crown.

1623
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 2: Luke he typically fights once per year.

1624
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 1: It was almost a two year gap this time with

1625
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: COVID and everything else. But he will be having his

1626
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 1: mandatory title defense against Mark Magseo. It's a very interesting

1627
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 1: matchup from that regard because Next Day was coming off

1628
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 1: that knockout of the year highlight in which he rallied

1629
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 1: back and he's starting to get a name as a hungry,

1630
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 1: uh Filipino puncher to be fair, you know.

1631
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 2: And he's promoted and managed by Manny Pacio.

1632
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying he has next many Pakia potential,

1633
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: but he's a fun ass fighter, is the The storyline though,

1634
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 1: is more about like, hey, Gary Russell, when are you

1635
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: gonna fully bloom and fulfill that potential we know you

1636
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 1: have that We've seen out of you. But Luke, in

1637
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 1: all the interviews this week, all the press conferences, Gary

1638
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 1: and this is a sort of a new mantra that

1639
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 1: he's that he's staying with.

1640
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:30,759
Speaker 2: He puts it the blame of his.

1641
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 1: Inactivity, like one hundred percent on the boxing business for guys,

1642
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 1: not the big other big stars not being willing to

1643
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: fight him. He cut a promo on Leo Santa Cruz.

1644
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 1: I mean he does it in a very slick way. Look,

1645
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 1: Gary Russell's like he's brilliant, He's got an incredible mind.

1646
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 2: Uh. I can't tell if this is like a work

1647
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 2: or if this is just the fuel.

1648
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: He really believes that that like everyone's afraid to fight him,

1649
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 1: and this dictates it either way. Luke, he none of

1650
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 1: this in activity has ever heard him in the ring.

1651
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 3: He he fought six times in twenty eleven. He fought

1652
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 3: two times in twenty twelve, he fought two times in

1653
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 3: twenty thirteen, he fought three times in twenty fourteen. He

1654
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 3: won the belt in twenty fifteen, and since then it's

1655
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 3: been once a year. So before he was champion, he

1656
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 3: had no problems with the boxing business. Now he got

1657
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 3: the belt and it's even harder to get fights. This

1658
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:23,799
Speaker 3: is obviously bullshit. I don't believe this for a second.

1659
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that in every case where he had

1660
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 3: a negotiation potentially come up, that he's the common denominator

1661
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 3: problem and it's always him. There might be a lot

1662
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 3: of scenario where he really did try and a lot

1663
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 3: of the guys pulled out or wasn't interested or whatever.

1664
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he hasn't made over the course of

1665
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 3: since then twenty fifteen one times, sixteen seventeen, eighteen, nineteen

1666
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 3: twenty one time he had didn't even fight in twenty

1667
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 3: twenty one. He's almost been off two years BC and

1668
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 3: he hasn't been off in between.

1669
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 2: But I don't know if you've noticed, he hasn't been

1670
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 2: out of the headlines.

1671
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 1: So he keeps getting in these like online arguments with

1672
01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 1: bigger fighters that it usually ends with him being like,

1673
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: you know, well let's fight it, let's meet in the middle,

1674
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 1: and then nothing happens.

1675
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 2: So maybe that's what.

1676
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 1: He's talking about more of like I'm trying to make

1677
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 1: big fights because Luke, he's opened up. He fights at

1678
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 1: one twenty six, he's opened up. He'll go up to

1679
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 1: one thirty one to thirty five. There was even talk

1680
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 1: for a period about maybe like leaping up to Welterwait,

1681
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 1: like he's willing to do sort of what we look

1682
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 1: at as like aggressive, daring, kind of crazy movement, at

1683
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 1: least verbally he's saying it.

1684
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 2: So I don't know, Luke.

1685
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,719
Speaker 1: Either way, this is a fun style matchup and probably

1686
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 1: still a style matchup as long as Gary Russell Junior

1687
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 1: is of the ilk that he's been showing despite the inactivity,

1688
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 1: which is dynamically fast hands, very smart boxer.

1689
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 2: This training camp was harder than normal, Luke, with his dad,

1690
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:42,759
Speaker 2: who's also.

1691
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 1: His trainer, having his foot amputated, so he wasn't you know,

1692
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 1: a he wasn't part of the camp really at all.

1693
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:51,600
Speaker 1: In fact, Gary trained himself for this one. And you

1694
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: know there's been some other personal turmoil there along the way.

1695
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 2: For Gary and his family.

1696
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 1: If he's still Gary Russell though, Luke, I think this

1697
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 1: is the type of fighter Mark Macsao, despite being you know,

1698
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 1: potentially dynamic that he can disarm like this is the

1699
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 1: type of guy that he owns.

1700
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 3: Dude. I gotta say, like, here's the part about that's

1701
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 3: frustrating about Gary. And by the way, like, here's the thing.

1702
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,759
Speaker 3: What I think has happened Bece. I think getting bigger

1703
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 3: fights has been challenging for Gary Russell, and so he's

1704
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 3: just punted, like, Okay, I'm gonna try a little bit

1705
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,600
Speaker 3: I've tried in these particular occasions. Unless it comes to

1706
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 3: me easily, I'm not gonna chase it down. What he's

1707
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 3: also not doing BC is he's not hammering the boards

1708
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 3: to do media. He doesn't pull any stunts to get

1709
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 3: big fights. He doesn't even stay busy against guys he's

1710
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 3: outmatched against and then use those as opportunities to like

1711
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 3: fish for bigger fights. He just sits around and does this.

1712
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 3: But at the same time, he's been fighting number one contenders, dude,

1713
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 3: he's not been fighting bullshit fighters. He fought Joseph Diaz,

1714
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 3: by the way, it was one fight in twenty eighteen.

1715
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 3: Then he fought Kiko Martinez, who just had the win

1716
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 3: of his fucking life recently, so that fight has aged

1717
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 3: well in twenty nineteen, and then he beat King Tug

1718
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 3: in his last one of February twenty twenty two. These

1719
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 3: are good wins. He's just solid fighters. He's beating absolutely

1720
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 3: he Gary Russell Jr. He's thirty three, which for featherweight

1721
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 3: gets a little bit up there. I think you would

1722
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 3: agree be see, but dude, he's fucking slick. He is

1723
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 3: a good boxer. He's boxing's longest rating champion in part

1724
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 3: because of an activity and part because he's very, very

1725
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 3: very talented and the reason why he's in fast movement,

1726
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 3: fast hands, good IQ. I like Garry Russell Jr.

1727
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it started to interrupt you.

1728
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 1: The reason why I was even questioning is because he

1729
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 1: is so smart and so level headed that like, I'm like,

1730
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 1: is this a work? You know, his whole stance on

1731
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 1: everyone avoiding him, And that's because I do respect so

1732
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 1: much of like he believes everything he says, Luke, Like,

1733
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 1: he's absolutely the real deal and he's old school. But

1734
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: you know, we also we need to see it. We

1735
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 1: need to see it in the ring. So I hope

1736
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 1: that this is the beginning of a busy run. He

1737
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 1: says he wants to fight three times this calendar year

1738
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 1: and uh and he wants Leo Santa Cruz, which would

1739
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 1: be a very big fight.

1740
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 2: Luke.

1741
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 3: So I I also have to say, like, just Gary

1742
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 3: Russell Junr. Like I would love to see more domestic boxing,

1743
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 3: or when I say domestic, I mean like, you know,

1744
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 3: Gary Russell in this market and they've tried the Escandon,

1745
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 3: Diaz and Martinez fight excuse me, the DS Skendon and

1746
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 3: uh that's it. Those only two he's got at MGM

1747
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,759
Speaker 3: National Harbor, that's in the area, that's here in Maryland,

1748
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 3: Ox and Hill. And he's not. I think he's from

1749
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 3: Prince George's County, which is the same part they're trying

1750
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 3: to put fights in here. Dude, he's got no footprint

1751
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 3: in this market what so fucking ever he is.

1752
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you showed him your your DC tattoo,

1753
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 1: unlike Jared Swift heard, would he like you would he

1754
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 1: just nail it.

1755
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 3: I think he would nail it. I can't believe Jared

1756
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 3: Hurt didn't know that, but I think he would get it.

1757
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 3: But you get the idea, like.

1758
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 2: U DMV guys.

1759
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if DMV is like a club or

1760
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 1: if there's like okay, they group us together, but like

1761
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:36,719
Speaker 1: these hos ain't loyal, you know well.

1762
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 3: I mean people call it the DMV. I don't really

1763
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:42,839
Speaker 3: rep Maryland or Virginia like people from Virginia and Maryland

1764
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 3: might claim DC I don't claim Maryland. In Virginia, I

1765
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 3: claim DC, so I don't really worry about those two states.

1766
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 3: But I'm just pointing out, like in this area, dude,

1767
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 3: he has no presence. What I mean, Dude, why is

1768
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:55,640
Speaker 3: Gary Russell Junr The longest reigning champion in boxing and

1769
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 3: he's fighting in fucking New Jersey?

1770
01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean?

1771
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 3: Like, why is he should be fighting here?

1772
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I want I would have to think though

1773
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 1: Jersey's close enough, Luke, where it's still looked at as

1774
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: as a home game type opportunity for him.

1775
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 2: But I get your point, and he's.

1776
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 3: Got to say he was a big draw, Like if

1777
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 3: he was a big draw, they could pull a thing here,

1778
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 3: and there's nothing competing for his attention really in a

1779
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:18,879
Speaker 3: major way this weekend.

1780
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:20,560
Speaker 1: The thing that makes it hard at the end of

1781
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 1: the day, Like you can criticize I've criticized him for this,

1782
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 1: the inactivity and kind of just doing what he wants

1783
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 1: is uh none as he back it up in the ring,

1784
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 1: But like he's willing to go for it, Luke, Like

1785
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's fights where he's had to bite

1786
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 1: down and fight and he's willing to go after that,

1787
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 1: and he's always trying to fight people bigger than him,

1788
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 1: and you know, he wants that Lomachenko rematchup, which is

1789
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 1: his only pro loss so badly.

1790
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 2: And look, even though.

1791
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 1: That was a majority decision, it was a lot more

1792
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 1: one sided than the decision made, it seemed. And uh,

1793
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 1: he took a beating in that fight. Yeah, he you know,

1794
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 1: he bit down and took it. I love I'd love

1795
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 1: love for him to end up getting a Lomachenko rematch,

1796
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 1: but the path to do that is to is to

1797
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 1: stay busy. So let's hope this the beginning minus four hundred.

1798
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 1: Russell's the favorite, Luke. If he gets a stoppage here

1799
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: that that's a big statement. But what was interesting is

1800
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 1: that Russell said ahead of this, I don't know. I

1801
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 1: might get a stoppage and then people nobody wants to

1802
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 1: fight me. So he's not even sure, Luke, whether it's

1803
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 1: you know, just win and look good or looks spectacular,

1804
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 1: which one will will be his friend moving forward matchmaking on.

1805
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 3: I have a feeling if he gets a big win,

1806
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 3: his problem won't be that no one wants to fight him. Like,

1807
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 3: let's relax on that, please?

1808
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 2: Wow, all right, Luke Thomas herret. There we go. Check

1809
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 2: that out.

1810
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 1: Saturday night showtime should be fun at Tripleheader right there,

1811
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 1: Shout out tomorrow Brian Custer and the team, l all

1812
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:37,719
Speaker 1: the all the all the friends there. Luke the classy one, Abner,

1813
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 1: Uh you know great, great guys, love him Lucas. Time

1814
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 1: to be closed with the segment in which we're willing

1815
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:46,679
Speaker 1: to put our balls on the line for for truth,

1816
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 1: for justice, for freedom. No, not High Court. That's another

1817
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 1: segment that we do. This is where you email us

1818
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 1: Morning Combat. Sorry, the email addresses morning Combat at gmail

1819
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 1: dot com to send in. Of course your fan subs

1820
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. But if you think we said something wrong,

1821
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 1: step up to the plate. But you better bring a

1822
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 1: receipt and you better come. Come on right, let's do it.

1823
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 1: It's called dead wrong, all right, ma'am. Luke, I hope

1824
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 1: they send you to hell. I never read them in advance,

1825
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 1: never do. I only see how many there are, so.

1826
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 3: Sure I'm sure that I will get my fair share

1827
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 3: of fuck offs. So let's hear it.

1828
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is look, we'll take the l if it's true.

1829
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 1: This one comes from Ethan in Sydney, Australia. Hey, Luke

1830
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 1: and Brian, I'd like to dead wrong the BBC with

1831
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 1: the BDE. During the segment on Almost Famous, he called

1832
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 1: Francis McDormand Francis McDermott petty.

1833
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 2: I know, but dead wrong all the same.

1834
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 1: Love the show and looking forward to what you guys

1835
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 1: have in store in twenty twenty two, Big love.

1836
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 2: Hey Luke, that that was a slick move right there

1837
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 2: from Ethan. Well done. I'll take that.

1838
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 3: Take that, l take that, l bro, all right, you.

1839
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 2: Know he can't.

1840
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 1: He came come original, he brought it, Luke. Okay, this

1841
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 1: one comes in from Michael and Greg. I'm not sure

1842
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:02,640
Speaker 1: which guy wrote it.

1843
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 2: I mean, are you you know? Are you all right?

1844
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 3: Also, if your name is Michael, Greg, you have the

1845
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:08,600
Speaker 3: worst name on earth. I want you to know that.

1846
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, never trust a man with two first names, right, Luke?

1847
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 2: Is that the Is that the ruling on that? Hey?

1848
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 3: Fuck off? Hey fuck off? How about that?

1849
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 1: During the January tenth show, in Studio BC's dumbass was

1850
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 1: dead wrong as usual. Right after he huffed gasoline, he

1851
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,640
Speaker 1: said that the Derek Lewis Ti to Ivasa fight at

1852
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 1: UFC two seventy one is a five round fight that

1853
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 1: that's the one that just recently scheduled. He clearly forgot

1854
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 1: that Adustanya Whittaker too was the main event and not

1855
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: Lewis to Ivasa.

1856
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 2: If I had a.

1857
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 1: Dollar for every time BC was wrong, I'd be Dana White,

1858
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 1: unwilling to give my fighters a raise.

1859
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 2: Love you guys, keep up the mediocre work. Wow. Wow, Luke,

1860
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 2: did he killed you and he killed me? I didn't

1861
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 2: even do anything, you know what Luke like.

1862
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 1: I don't fully agree with his methods, but you do

1863
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 1: have to give respect, ye, I mean, he just kicked

1864
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 1: He just kicked our ass.

1865
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 3: You have a great correction, you can kick it down

1866
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 3: our throat. We have to just take it. That's what

1867
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 3: the second's about.

1868
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:05,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very truely, all right. This one's from Jared

1869
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 1: greeting Donks on episode two fifty. At the sixteen forty

1870
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,799
Speaker 1: two mark of MK Ultra, Luke is pondering the UFC's

1871
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 1: division decision to give a featherweight title shot to TKZ

1872
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 1: as a reward to a guy who hasn't gotten a

1873
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 1: title shit shot yet, or get a different name. I

1874
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 1: don't know this, Oh, Luke should have pondered a bit more,

1875
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 1: because he's dead wrong. Korean Zombie fought all Though for

1876
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 1: the Strap at UFC one sixty three in Brazil. It's okay, Luke.

1877
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 2: If I had to listen to the dribble that pours

1878
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 2: from Brian's mouth all day, nearly every day, I would

1879
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 2: a crew brain damage.

1880
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:44,759
Speaker 3: I like how I caught the l but then you caught.

1881
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 2: The I mean, the point of this segment is that

1882
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:47,640
Speaker 2: we're supposed to take it. You know, we're supposed to.

1883
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: It's like at the amusement park where you do the

1884
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 1: old time like jail photo with your hands, so you're like,

1885
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,639
Speaker 1: all right, go ahead, you know that.

1886
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 2: Yeah? Wow, all right, Luke, here we go.

1887
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: This is Arthur from San Diego, a Kurdish guy for

1888
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:04,560
Speaker 1: Luke's very own Armenia by the way, Okay, all right, Arthur.

1889
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 2: Greetings MK.

1890
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 1: Dead wrong from BC during episode two fifty at the

1891
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 1: thirty six minute, when Brian was referring to ty tu

1892
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 1: Ivasa having a shoey after making his way down the

1893
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 1: aisle after the last win, and that someone put Tabasco

1894
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 1: sauce on the shoe. Unfortunately, he's dead wrong. In reality,

1895
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: this was right after his win against Greg Hardy during

1896
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 1: UFC two sixty four when a fan handed Tie a

1897
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 1: boot full of concoctions, but it was actually Dustin Porier's Luisia.

1898
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 3: Dude, Wait what am I hold on? I gotta fix.

1899
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 3: I got a dead wrong myself. What the fuck am

1900
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 3: I talking about? This fight is in California, the main event,

1901
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 3: not Texas, so the rules aren't in play at all.

1902
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 3: I'm talking about Atisania and Whittaker two.

1903
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're dead wrong, dude.

1904
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:53,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, dead wrong like a motherfucker. So yes, yes,

1905
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 3: totally wrong, totally totally totally wrong.

1906
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 2: It have worked out your takes on Twitter ahead of

1907
01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 2: time like you normally do.

1908
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:02,560
Speaker 3: Luke, you know this is right? Yeah, got proof those things.

1909
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 2: Tough crowd, all right?

1910
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 1: Uh so, Luke, in reality, it was Poorier's hot sauce

1911
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 1: that was poured into the boot. Great episode nonetheless, and

1912
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 1: loved the new studio.

1913
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 2: Arthur from San Diego.

1914
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:14,799
Speaker 1: So Arthur, you are right that what you're referencing did happen.

1915
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 1: But I was referencing being in the arena for two

1916
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 1: of US's last win that I saw up on the

1917
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 1: monitorist he was exiting the same thing happened, so I

1918
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 1: wasn't sure if that was just him getting beer in

1919
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 1: his eye or shampoo like myself, Luke. But it looked

1920
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,679
Speaker 1: to be another one of those situations. But I do

1921
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 1: understand and agree Arthur, it had happened before. I didn't

1922
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Speaker 1: reference it. I'm kind of partially dead wrong. But you

1923
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Speaker 1: know what, Arthur, fuck off, bro?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, you know what gives

1925
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Speaker 2: you the right at the end of the day, right,

1926
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Speaker 2: you know? All right? Uh? Luke, here we go.

1927
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Speaker 1: On Wednesday's episode, Luke mentions that UFC two seventy two

1928
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Speaker 1: was quote currently scheduled for Brooklyn, but it may be

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Speaker 1: moving to Jacksonville. Two seven to two is actually scheduled

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Speaker 1: for Vegas. It is UFC two seventy three that is

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Speaker 1: in that Brooklyn Jacksonville discussion. Check yourself before you wreck yourself, donks.

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Speaker 1: That's ben in Tanner. I don't know which one wrote it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's like, all right.

1934
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Speaker 3: Well we'll take that out. I will take that out.

1935
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Speaker 2: What are your names? Neil and Bob? Yeah? That's that awful? Andrew? Yeah, yeah,

1936
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Speaker 2: all right? Or is that just what you do? Yeah?

1937
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Speaker 3: Can we move through this? Because the crowd had the

1938
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Speaker 3: production team has to.

1939
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Speaker 2: Switch over Oh yeah, let's get out of the show

1940
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Speaker 2: right now. Luke and BC.

1941
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Speaker 1: At twenty four minutes of Wednesday show, BC states that

1942
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Speaker 1: Chuck and vonderlay was a big non title fight for

1943
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Speaker 1: a pay per view main event.

1944
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Speaker 2: That is dead wrong.

1945
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Speaker 1: They were the comane to GSP versus Hughes and or

1946
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Speaker 1: easy mistake, just like that tiny hat you wore, probably

1947
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Speaker 1: to cover up the black.

1948
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Speaker 2: Ink you used to dye your hair. Kidding of course.

1949
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Speaker 2: Loved the new studio.

1950
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Speaker 1: Wow, awesome, Yeah, this happened all right, Ben says, Hey,

1951
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Speaker 1: Luke and BC, I have a dead wrong. Episode two

1952
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Speaker 1: fifty one, at one twenty nine, BC is explaining the

1953
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Speaker 1: fight between Darth Vader and Obi Wan, where Kenobi says

1954
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Speaker 1: strike me down and I will become more powerful than

1955
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Speaker 1: you can imagine.

1956
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Speaker 2: But BC says this happened in episode three. I meant

1957
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Speaker 2: the third movie.

1958
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Speaker 1: You're right, you're right, whereas this actually happened in episode

1959
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Speaker 1: for all crap and I'm dead wrong twice there, Luke, Uh,

1960
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Speaker 1: thank you for all the content. Loved the show you guys,

1961
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Speaker 1: and I love the new set. Yeah he yeah, I'm

1962
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Speaker 1: dead wrong, Luke, I'm wrong as shit. That's that's the

1963
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Speaker 1: new hope that happened.

1964
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Speaker 2: Episode four.

1965
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, right, go fuck.

1966
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Speaker 1: Yeah, fight Walla is here, he says, Hello, Donk's greeting

1967
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Speaker 1: from the city of Shanai. It's in Luke's true home

1968
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Speaker 1: country of India. Big fan of Luke for many years

1969
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Speaker 1: and more recently BC. But at around a minute and

1970
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Speaker 1: twelve of episode two fifty one, while making fun of

1971
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Speaker 1: the Capital Stormers from Ireland by way of Canada, BC

1972
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 1: asked Luke what the capital of Canada was. Luke, as did,

1973
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Speaker 1: I thought that BC wanted to know what the capital

1974
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Speaker 1: city of Canada was. I'm sure they right. I'm sure

1975
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Speaker 1: the question didn't come as surprised to everyone.

1976
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Speaker 3: Can I keep sucking it.

1977
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Speaker 2: Up since BC is not known for his worldly knowledge.

1978
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Speaker 1: However, what what did surprise me was Luke's answer Ontario.

1979
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Speaker 3: I know, but I corrected it like a second later

1980
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Speaker 3: on the tape, go back.

1981
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Speaker 2: To Ontario is not a city, It's a province, Luke.

1982
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Speaker 2: He goes on to give.

1983
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Speaker 3: I correct See this guy, He's right that I got

1984
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,720
Speaker 3: it wrong initially. Thirty seconds later I corrected it on

1985
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Speaker 3: the pack.

1986
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Speaker 1: He went on to give just man explain the ship

1987
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Speaker 1: out of the reasoning behind that, but then he says,

1988
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Speaker 1: hope to meet you guys once the pandemic is over

1989
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Speaker 1: and I can fly state side to watch a card

1990
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Speaker 1: win that damn award, so we can meet over International

1991
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Speaker 1: fight week from Fight Walla. Luke, do you want to

1992
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Speaker 1: meet fight Walla in person? I mean, would you accept

1993
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Speaker 1: food that he that he that he made?

1994
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Speaker 3: Luke, you can travel now, just get the vaccine fuck face.

1995
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Speaker 2: Right, Look, there's more.

1996
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Speaker 1: The more we get distance from the lan Jeger situation,

1997
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Speaker 1: there probably was.

1998
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Speaker 2: There's probably was, you.

1999
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Speaker 3: Know, dude. I mean he probably smuggled those across the

2000
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Speaker 3: border in his colon and I just ate, you know, Yeah, all.

2001
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Speaker 2: Right, Connor says, what's up?

2002
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Speaker 1: Dong's just wanted to bring this one to your attention

2003
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Speaker 1: since BC's liver clearly isn't the only thing failing him.

2004
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Speaker 1: At one twenty five, episode two fifty one, BC states,

2005
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Speaker 1: you know that part in episode three when it isn't

2006
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Speaker 1: that the same This is another one with the same thing.

2007
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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, dude, can we move through these?

2008
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Speaker 1: He's also trying to rip me on the higher ground

2009
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Speaker 1: comment of yeah, whatever, okay, moving on. There's too many

2010
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Speaker 1: of them to keep going, Luke, We're gonna have to

2011
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Speaker 1: save those for next week. Okay, let's end the show now.

2012
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Speaker 1: It's been great guys, but they need you know, we

2013
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Speaker 1: gotta go loose, gotta shit. He's got a couple other jobs.

2014
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Speaker 1: We gotta get out of here.

2015
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Speaker 3: I gotta go. I gotta go do my other jobs.

2016
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Speaker 3: You understand.

2017
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Speaker 1: For Showtime Malco, CBS Sports for Luke Thomas, my name

2018
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Speaker 1: is Brian Campbell. Uh, there's our social handles below. But Luke,

2019
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Speaker 1: they should they should be their Saturday night for a

2020
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Speaker 1: post fight show.

2021
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Speaker 3: Correct, that's right. Soon as the main event is over,

2022
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Speaker 3: be right back here at YouTube dot com. Slash Morning Combat,

2023
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Speaker 3: a live UFC two seventy post fight show hosted by

2024
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Speaker 3: yours truly, hopefully not on Delta eight gummies.

2025
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Speaker 1: Don't miss Russell versus Magxioh Showtime Championship Boxing Sin Saturday

2026
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Speaker 1: Night's tripleheader Showtime dot Com. Tryight now thirty days for free.

2027
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Speaker 1: You can watch that boxing that we're talking about. VC's

2028
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Speaker 1: coming back to show Box in February. Can watch that

2029
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Speaker 1: shit too, So don't miss that. Buy our Merchant Morningcombat

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Speaker 1: dot store and we're out of here. We love you all.

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Speaker 1: Be safe, enjoy the weekend. Keep this things, keep it,

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Speaker 1: keep it. We need this, Okay, all right, we out