Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1: Early January is the most popular time of the year
Speaker 1: for single people to join an online dating site. I
Speaker 1: mean it makes sense, right. They made it through the
Speaker 1: holidays with every annoying relative asking them when they plan
Speaker 1: to get married, and this is their time to take
Speaker 1: the bull by the horns and decide to find their person.
Speaker 1: New Year, New ye, and for many people that means
Speaker 1: a new mate. So what's interesting about this, I think
Speaker 1: is that it's usually an influx of men hitting these
Speaker 1: sites at this time of the year. Now, why is
Speaker 1: that surprising? It's because popular culture makes it seem as
Speaker 1: if men are holding off from getting into relationships as
Speaker 1: long as they can, and them joining dating sites shows
Speaker 1: that maybe that's not so. The idea that men can
Speaker 1: wait indefinitely to get me married or have children is
Speaker 1: really a lie, and I think that it's one that
Speaker 1: really needs exposing. Yes, men can have children into old age,
Speaker 1: but why would they want to.
Speaker 2: For a long time, men.
Speaker 1: Were told that their dating and mating life could continue indefinitely.
Speaker 1: I mean, Hollywood does it all the time, right. Steve
Speaker 1: Martin became a first time dad at sixty seven. Rod
Speaker 1: Stewart had kids in his sixties. Larry King Woody Allen
Speaker 1: list of sixty plus year old dad's goes on and on.
Speaker 1: But as I like to tell my single male friends,
Speaker 1: you're not Rod Stewart. You're not going to have a
Speaker 1: team of people to help you raise your kids. You're
Speaker 1: going to get mistaken for the kid's grandpa a lot,
Speaker 1: and it won't feel great. You can't wear leather pants
Speaker 1: and talking a British accent. It's just not the same.
Speaker 1: Even setting aside the growing concerns from the medical community
Speaker 1: that a father's age can factor into various issues child
Speaker 1: may have, including learning disabilities. Only people without children could
Speaker 1: imagine that there's anything fun about dealing with a crying
Speaker 1: newborn when you're sixty or going to a high school
Speaker 1: graduation when you're nearing eighty. A few years ago, there
Speaker 1: was this groundbreaking study called the Grant Study out of Harvard,
Speaker 1: which was conducted over seventy five years, and it looked
Speaker 1: into male happiness. What it found was that what makes
Speaker 1: men happy is not very complicated and corny as it
Speaker 1: may sound. Love is the most important factor in a
Speaker 1: happy life for a man. Look love doesn't have to
Speaker 1: mean marriage and children. But the study did find that
Speaker 1: the happiest men had meaningful relationships, often yes with their
Speaker 1: wives and children.
Speaker 3: So that means that while short.
Speaker 1: Lived affairs found you know, when you're swiping right on
Speaker 1: these apps can be exciting, they probably won't ultimately lead.
Speaker 3: To happiness for you.
Speaker 1: The fact that relationships lead to happiness shouldn't be surprising,
Speaker 1: but somehow still is because the line sold to men,
Speaker 1: especially alpha men who have these options, you know when
Speaker 1: it comes to choosing women, is that settling down is
Speaker 1: for suckers. But more men are finding out that they
Speaker 1: were suckers for believing that and waiting. It also seems
Speaker 1: like men don't know who they're supposed to be anymore.
Speaker 1: You know. While they get a lot of specific advice
Speaker 1: during different stages of their lives, perhaps maybe even more
Speaker 1: than women do, there's no longer sense of a big
Speaker 1: picture for men to live up to, you know. For example,
Speaker 1: women are encouraged to have it all, which look is
Speaker 1: a ridiculous goal, but it's a goal. Nevertheless. Women are
Speaker 1: told to aim for family, career, a perfect body, strong friendships,
Speaker 1: the whole package. Men are told to put off family,
Speaker 1: until they have a career, as if these two things
Speaker 1: couldn't possibly.
Speaker 3: Run in parallel.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, women outpace men at colleges, but don't seem to
Speaker 1: have that same pressure to have everything figured out before
Speaker 1: they look for a commitment. My number one podcast listener,
Speaker 1: my husband says that I've talked about the success sequence
Speaker 1: too much on here, but to sum it up just
Speaker 1: one more time, if you finish high school, get married,
Speaker 1: and have kids in that specific order, your chance of
Speaker 1: success in life increases no matter where you got started
Speaker 1: in life. For a lot of people men specifically, marriage
Speaker 1: and family isn't discussed as part of the wider picture
Speaker 1: of what makes a successful life. But men don't want
Speaker 1: to be alone any more than women do, and the
Speaker 1: fact is that boys should be told that a large
Speaker 1: part of their happiness puzzle will include a relationship. Tell
Speaker 1: your children, specifically, tell your sons. Coming up next in
Speaker 1: interview with Emma Joe Morris. Join us after the break, Hi,
Speaker 1: and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1: My guest today is Emma Joe Morris. Emma Joe is
Speaker 1: politics editor and columnist at Breitbart and was previously Deputy
Speaker 1: Politics editor at The New York Post.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for coming on, Emma Joe.
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. I'm super excited to be here.
Speaker 1: I'm super excited to have you be here. I usually
Speaker 1: asked this question later on in the show.
Speaker 2: But you're pretty.
Speaker 1: Young, obviously, and already crazy accomplished. You're in a happy marriage,
Speaker 1: and you're just generally very very cool.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you've made it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you so much, and thanks to Hiley of
Speaker 4: me and especially the young.
Speaker 1: I'll tell the story about how you asked waffle house,
Speaker 1: you know, if they're maple syrup? Was actual maple syrup
Speaker 1: later on in the episode, ye.
Speaker 4: Were still friends. But yeah, so I guess I'm relatively young,
Speaker 4: and i do feel like I've made it, and I'm
Speaker 4: glad that you touched on, like you name the things
Speaker 4: that you did, because obviously I've had a great career.
Speaker 4: I've had a crazy career and it's been super exciting
Speaker 4: and eventful and thank god accomplished. You know, I've been
Speaker 4: really lucky. But I think that the metric have made it.
Speaker 4: When I thought about that question is like, like having
Speaker 4: a happy marriage is the way, you know, and I
Speaker 4: think that that is so underrated in society lately, especially
Speaker 4: like people in my generation and around my age who
Speaker 4: were like think that it's like limiting or tying them down,
Speaker 4: or taking away some sort of freedom or taking away
Speaker 4: some sort of agency from them, And I found the
Speaker 4: exact opposite that I became so much more myself when
Speaker 4: I was in a serious relationship and getting married and
Speaker 4: post being married, like and and you know, you could
Speaker 4: be totally open with somebody and there's no like hiding
Speaker 4: and no like bullshit, and like it's just that's that's
Speaker 4: my metric. I've made it. And thank god, you know
Speaker 4: I have I have that, and that's that's definitely it.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: And actually I love the story of how you met
Speaker 1: your wife, though it's definitely going to enrage people who spend.
Speaker 2: Like years swiping on the apps.
Speaker 3: She was your first match, right, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4: I know it's very annoying for all of our parks
Speaker 4: to listen to this, but yeah, that's it. Like I
Speaker 4: went into the apps thinking about like my so, I
Speaker 4: lived in New York for some years before I started dating, Like,
Speaker 4: I don't know, I was just kind of like I
Speaker 4: was pretty in the closet and like, I just was
Speaker 4: freaked out by the whole thing in general, and it
Speaker 4: was felt overwhelming. And my work I was in at
Speaker 4: Hannity at the time, I was at Fox, and so
Speaker 4: my schedule was like two to eleven, and like, I
Speaker 4: just my social life was weird and I just didn't
Speaker 4: want to get into it. And so then I finally
Speaker 4: down and app and I'd been listening to my friend's
Speaker 4: horror stories the time, right, and it's always like a
Speaker 4: thousand dates and there's a thousand people and it never
Speaker 4: goes anywhere, and it's horrible and everybody is alone, and
Speaker 4: and I obviously wanted a better result. So I went
Speaker 4: into it with kind of a strategy, which was I
Speaker 4: am going to see one person at a time and
Speaker 4: obviously not like thinking that anything is going to be serious,
Speaker 4: you know all that, but just like I'm not going
Speaker 4: to see multiple people at once while all of them
Speaker 4: are not serious. So that was that was my strategy
Speaker 4: with it. So I opened a chat with my wife
Speaker 4: now and what we were talking about is kind of funny,
Speaker 4: you know, because I also wasn't like a hey, what's
Speaker 4: up person, you know. I tried to find something on
Speaker 4: her profile that I thought it was interesting to ask
Speaker 4: her about it. She's an artist and she is completely clean,
Speaker 4: completely sober, no smoking, no cigarettes, no drugs, no nothing,
Speaker 4: no alcohol, nothing, And it said that she was in
Speaker 4: art school at the time, and so I thought that
Speaker 4: was weird. So I messaged her and I said, what
Speaker 4: kind of artist has no vices? And that was how
Speaker 4: I w in the conversation, she thought that was kind
Speaker 4: of interesting, and we got into a conversation about her religion,
Speaker 4: which I share, and anyway it was. It was a
Speaker 4: good conversation and she asked to have lunch, and so
Speaker 4: I deleted the app because.
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm done here.
Speaker 1: We are.
Speaker 4: Well, no, not necessarily, I didn't think. I didn't think.
Speaker 4: I didn't I hadn't even met her. But I had
Speaker 4: vow to myself that I wasn't going to be one
Speaker 4: of those people who is like onto the next thing
Speaker 4: before they've even met the person or before they got
Speaker 4: to know them. So I set up a lunch like
Speaker 4: a time to have lunch with her, and then I
Speaker 4: deleted the app and I married her.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 4: How old were you It's twenty six?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, five, I just turned twenty five when
Speaker 1: you got married.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh no, got when I met her, I had
Speaker 4: just bie. When I got married, I had just turned
Speaker 4: twenty eight.
Speaker 3: Wow, amazing, that's I love it.
Speaker 2: So you write about serious.
Speaker 1: Topics, but you do it in a really funny way,
Speaker 1: and it sounds like that's kind of the approach that
Speaker 1: you use to.
Speaker 2: Woo your wife as well.
Speaker 1: You wrote about spending the day with an illegal immigrant
Speaker 1: that that story really sticks out in my mind. It
Speaker 1: was like a real serious, well reported story. And then
Speaker 1: at the end he sends you a picture of his
Speaker 1: penis and it just has like a really you know,
Speaker 1: hilarious kind of twist to it. But you just you
Speaker 1: just covered it in such a great way. And then
Speaker 1: recently you wrote about your drunken lunch with George Santos,
Speaker 1: which I also thought was very serious but hilarious and
Speaker 1: just very well done. I think being funny is really
Speaker 1: important to get people to listen to you.
Speaker 3: Do you also think that is that like part of
Speaker 3: your philosophy?
Speaker 4: Yes, definitely, and especially like you know, you and me
Speaker 4: write about similar things and it's just politics and politics
Speaker 4: is so boring and it's so yeah, it can be
Speaker 4: so niche too. Like you know, you write for like junkies,
Speaker 4: and I think.
Speaker 5: That there's you know, and I think, yes, yes, you're
Speaker 5: right again, yes drug.
Speaker 4: And that's fine and whatever. And I like, I love
Speaker 4: my readers, and many of them are politics, juggies and everything.
Speaker 4: But I also think that there's certain things about our
Speaker 4: medium that you can get through to so many people,
Speaker 4: more people and people who don't agree with you, or
Speaker 4: people who don't even care about politics or whatever, and
Speaker 4: and it's by just being kind of clever and entertaining.
Speaker 4: And so I think that, like you know, at Brightbart,
Speaker 4: I mean, and I know that you have this at
Speaker 4: the Post as well, because I work there too. You
Speaker 4: get so much liberty to really express yourself how you want.
Speaker 4: And obviously, as long as you're making some sort of
Speaker 4: coherent point that has, like you know, a reason for
Speaker 4: why you're making it, and you know, evidence for why
Speaker 4: you're saying what you're saying, you can deliver it however
Speaker 4: you want, and you can be clever and creative about
Speaker 4: how you do that. So, you know, the illegal story
Speaker 4: was amazing because I have people from all over the
Speaker 4: political spectrum, from New York Magazine to Tugger Carlson Tonight
Speaker 4: emailing me being like that was hilarious. That was brilliant.
Speaker 4: And the story was called My Day with a Biden
Speaker 4: Migrant And you know, so I'm still seeing what I
Speaker 4: want to say. I'm not sacrificing anything in terms of
Speaker 4: being like more bipartisan or more broad in my language
Speaker 4: or my message, but just the way that you deliver
Speaker 4: it can be so much more impactful when you can
Speaker 4: get kind of smart about how you're doing that.
Speaker 1: And I have fun right right, And I know it
Speaker 1: was a human story, like I thought, you know, you
Speaker 1: didn't make him seem like a monster, who was you know,
Speaker 1: just awful.
Speaker 2: I thought it was just very well done.
Speaker 1: Like we can care about people, but know that this,
Speaker 1: you know, what's going on at the border is just wrong.
Speaker 1: And I think all of that really came across. So
Speaker 1: you seem like you're having fun in general.
Speaker 3: Is that is that true?
Speaker 4: Oh? For sure? Well I don't take life seriously, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. It's like when you kind of
Speaker 4: have like, in my opinion, this is where it comes
Speaker 4: from for me, like when you have some sort of
Speaker 4: relationship to God or like something bigger than yourself. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm Jewish, so my thing is God. But you know
Speaker 4: if you're not religious, it's still the same thing. It's
Speaker 4: like the universe or something that you stop being so
Speaker 4: controlling about everything and you stop taking things so hard,
Speaker 4: and it's like it's fine, Like somebody's taking care of me,
Speaker 4: somebody's looking out for you. It's not all about you.
Speaker 4: You're not the center of the universe. And it allows
Speaker 4: you to, like, I think, humble yourself a little bit
Speaker 4: and also like have a little bit more fun because
Speaker 4: it's like, no, I'm not in total control. I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna make romantice. I'm going to control what I can,
Speaker 4: you know, and then the rest of it is like
Speaker 4: enjoy the ride because you get one that's kind of
Speaker 4: I approached life.
Speaker 2: And that is why I took you to waffle House.
Speaker 1: When we met last year in Dallas for the first time,
Speaker 1: Emma Joe said he had never been to waffle House,
Speaker 1: and I thought that was unacceptable. So we took an
Speaker 1: Uber ride and we went to waffle House. And Emma
Speaker 1: Joe is Canadian. Is that okay to say?
Speaker 4: Can I tell people that Quebec? So if I have
Speaker 4: any any local people from Quebec listening to this, I'm
Speaker 4: sorry to offend you.
Speaker 2: By what she said, Well, but no, I think that
Speaker 2: they would love that.
Speaker 1: Where you just assumed that your local waffle house would have.
Speaker 4: It was that you called Quebec.
Speaker 2: How I see, I apologize. So if she at this
Speaker 2: waffle house.
Speaker 1: She looks up at this waitress and asks, do you
Speaker 1: have real maple styrup?
Speaker 2: And the waitress said no. But Emma, Joe, you know,
Speaker 2: I like that she believed.
Speaker 1: I like that you really you thought that that was
Speaker 1: a possibility at your three dollars a waffle spot. It
Speaker 1: shows the optimism you have.
Speaker 2: Have you been to a waffle house since?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: How how has that.
Speaker 4: Now? It's like one of my favorite restaurants.
Speaker 1: In restaurants, I don't know if you know, but there's
Speaker 1: this thing in Florida where maybe that's elsewhere as well,
Speaker 1: but in Florida, you know a hurricane is going to
Speaker 1: be bad when the waffle house closes, it's called like
Speaker 1: the waffle House Index.
Speaker 2: I think that's how you.
Speaker 3: Know, like this is serious.
Speaker 1: This is not just you know, hang out and wait
Speaker 1: for the rain to pass. So you know, now that
Speaker 1: you know you can, you can monitor waffle house is
Speaker 1: near you. What would you say is our biggest cultural
Speaker 1: or societal problem in America and is it solvable.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so, I you know, I just went on this
Speaker 4: kind of rant about how, like, you know, my relationship
Speaker 4: is the most important thing to me, and how fulfilling
Speaker 4: it is to be in a happy marriage and a
Speaker 4: happy relationship. And I speak more generally because obviously, I
Speaker 4: guess you know, not all of your listeners are going
Speaker 4: to be married, but if you have somebody who you're
Speaker 4: committed to, that counts. And I think that there is
Speaker 4: such an epidemic of loneliness in this kind and such
Speaker 4: an epidemic of like phobia commitment, and I think that
Speaker 4: that ends up manifesting in a lot of ways that
Speaker 4: that we, you know, write about every day, most importantly
Speaker 4: not having kids and not feeling tied to the land
Speaker 4: and the nation that you're a part of. And there's
Speaker 4: so many statistics about how, you know, people especially younger generations,
Speaker 4: are having way less sex they're when they are having sex.
Speaker 4: I saw statistic when I was thinking about this leading
Speaker 4: up to the show, seventy percent seven zero percent of
Speaker 4: people who are having sex have had a non committal
Speaker 4: kind of like casual sexual encounter in the last year
Speaker 4: from when they took the study. You know, numbers for
Speaker 4: marriage are like in the dumps. People are isolating. They're
Speaker 4: obsessed with social media and it makes them incredibly lonely
Speaker 4: in ways that they don't really realize. Because when you
Speaker 4: live connected to your screen, you feel like you have
Speaker 4: constant comforties. It's actually total isolation and it's killing people's vibe.
Speaker 4: I think it's killing people's vibe. I think it's killing
Speaker 4: their mood. I think it's killing their sense of patriotism
Speaker 4: and sense of connection to the earth the land around them,
Speaker 4: and making them really not give a shit about the
Speaker 4: future of the country. Obviously, you have nothing, you know,
Speaker 4: coming after you, so why do you care. It's all
Speaker 4: about you and it's all about now. So I think
Speaker 4: that that manifests in a lot of ways, and I
Speaker 4: think that that's a really interesting thing that is really
Speaker 4: not talked about enough, which is the decline in partnership.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know the thing is also I think
Speaker 1: about this a lot, but those people are having terrible sex,
Speaker 1: Like they don't realize it, maybe because they have never
Speaker 1: been in a relationship, but like the one offs are
Speaker 1: just that's going to be the worst version. And there
Speaker 1: was some way to like let them know. But also
Speaker 1: it just concerns me that people in relationships don't have sex,
Speaker 1: Like that has declined significantly. There was some crazy stat
Speaker 1: during the pandemic where like way more people were watching
Speaker 1: porn and masturbating versus having sex with like their partners
Speaker 1: who were home.
Speaker 3: And I just it's we take the easy path and
Speaker 3: it's not the better path, and it's concerning. But so
Speaker 3: do you think it's solvable, Like how do we get
Speaker 3: people out of this loneliness rut?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like it's a hard call. I think that you know,
Speaker 4: I mentioned the part of the reason why I think
Speaker 4: people are lonely is because they're obsessed to social media.
Speaker 4: And the thing is, the messaging on social media is
Speaker 4: that marriage and commitment are limiting. Marriage commitment is a
Speaker 4: ball and chain. Marriage and commitment is going to prevent
Speaker 4: you or inhibit you from being who you are, who
Speaker 4: you want to be, from self exploration and and and
Speaker 4: you know, ambition or whatever. And like, I think that
Speaker 4: there needs to be kind of like a recast of
Speaker 4: the narrative around relationships and marriage. And that's something that
Speaker 4: you know, I like, I like, you know, one of
Speaker 4: the things that makes me happy and feels like I've
Speaker 4: made it is hanging out with normies, you know, and
Speaker 4: hanging out who have interests apart from politics.
Speaker 1: And who don't even know like the scandals or the
Speaker 1: whatever that we like live every single day.
Speaker 4: Those are the most pain and cool people obviously, Yes,
Speaker 4: And you know I think that, Like so I will
Speaker 4: sort of get like a temperature check or like a
Speaker 4: gut check on like what's going on in media and
Speaker 4: what's being on social media and like what's striving and
Speaker 4: stuff from those people who aren't immersed in it, but
Speaker 4: who just kind of get the general message. And yeah,
Speaker 4: the general messages that marriage is outdated, that marriages archaic partnership,
Speaker 4: and that partnership sucks it and prevents you from being
Speaker 4: yourself or whatever. And I think that, yeah, there needs
Speaker 4: to be a total total overhaul in that narrative. And
Speaker 4: I don't know how you do it apart from getting
Speaker 4: people to experience this themselves, because it's like one of
Speaker 4: those things that you can't really that somebody who has
Speaker 4: involved and it can't really understand I don't think fullyef.
Speaker 4: But it's like you know, you're talking about like like
Speaker 4: talking about how bad casual sex is that is so true.
Speaker 4: It's always bad. And I've never heard of somebody come
Speaker 4: out of one night standing and be like that was
Speaker 4: amazing if they had they had dating that person, you know.
Speaker 4: But like it's like, you know, when you're with somebody
Speaker 4: who you're committed to, that's when you actually get to
Speaker 4: be yourself. A that's when sex is good also because
Speaker 4: of the first thing. And you know, when you're with
Speaker 4: a random stranger, when you're with ten random strangers who
Speaker 4: you're on a rotating dating basis with, it's like you
Speaker 4: never ever get vulnerable because you don't know them, and
Speaker 4: and then therefore you never actually get to reach inside
Speaker 4: yourself and really understand yourself better. Like everything that they're
Speaker 4: saying con from being single and like quote unquote like
Speaker 4: doing it on your own and figuring learning about your
Speaker 4: like no, that comes from connecting with somebody on a
Speaker 4: deeper level. And and and that's where also you know,
Speaker 4: you end up facing demons, you end up having a
Speaker 4: conflict and it brings something out of you and you're like, wait,
Speaker 4: what was that? You know, where did that come from?
Speaker 4: And that is an avenue of self discovery. So there's
Speaker 4: all of these like we I think, really need to
Speaker 4: make a push, like in our capacity, and I think
Speaker 4: that there needs to be this push across media where
Speaker 4: it's like no, no, no, I don't know where this feminist
Speaker 4: lie came from. I assume you know, but it's it's
Speaker 4: totally backward. It's totally backward. Happiness comes from commitment and
Speaker 4: freedom come from commitment. You know. So, but does that
Speaker 4: get solved immediately? Does that get solved right now? Does
Speaker 4: that even get solved in this generation? I don't know
Speaker 4: because gen Z is the ones we're dating the lease.
Speaker 4: Gen Z is playing the lease sets dating the lease
Speaker 4: and who are frankly like, have no social skills.
Speaker 1: It's like crazy, We're going to take a quick break
Speaker 1: and be right back on the Carol Marcowitch Show. Look
Speaker 1: the point of this show, I mean I literally started
Speaker 1: this show to kind of portray the other side of
Speaker 1: you know, what married life is like, what relationship so like,
Speaker 1: because I think I want to counter all the nonsense
Speaker 1: that I see which just seems fake to me.
Speaker 3: You know, you mentioned the demons.
Speaker 1: That get released, and you're like, wow, you know you
Speaker 1: get you get to do a kind of a deeper
Speaker 1: dive into yourself. When you're committed with somebody, but you
Speaker 1: also get to relax, Like you get to like actually
Speaker 1: be yourself and like not worry about how you're being
Speaker 1: perceived and all the different ways that you have to
Speaker 1: kind of perform for the outside world. You get to
Speaker 1: just relax that and you know, ease into being yourself,
Speaker 1: your actual self with your partner.
Speaker 3: And I don't think there's anything better than that.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent. That's exactly it. That's exactly it. And
Speaker 4: anybody who you're going to be with for like one
Speaker 4: or two days, or when you're constantly on one or
Speaker 4: two dates with different people, you're never fully authentic. And
Speaker 4: that is probably the most unfulfilling feeling and the most
Speaker 4: depressing feeling is feeling like you have to front all
Speaker 4: the time, and then you get this idea in your
Speaker 4: head that you don't even know who you are, and
Speaker 4: if you did that, you couldn't really express You get
Speaker 4: no practice in expressing that actually, And I.
Speaker 1: Love that you used front because that's like one of
Speaker 1: my favorite words ever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: Well, because you're so and here with your best tip
Speaker 1: for my listeners on how they can improve their lives.
Speaker 4: Get serious. You know, people think that you're young forever.
Speaker 4: People think that you're you know, you're gonna be in
Speaker 4: the same place forever, that you're gonna have the same
Speaker 4: vibe forever and want the same things forever. And that's
Speaker 4: not true. And I think that the best way to
Speaker 4: get happy is I was actually just with Alex Marlowe
Speaker 4: last weekend because we were at Ampest together and we
Speaker 4: were talking about this, Like, get as serious as you
Speaker 4: can about your future and your life as quickly as
Speaker 4: you possibly can, and set yourself up as best as
Speaker 4: you possibly can, as fast as you can. And if
Speaker 4: that means, like you know, moving out, maybe that that's
Speaker 4: what that means for you, Or if that means it
Speaker 4: getting you know, a salary job as opposed to an
Speaker 4: hourly job, Like maybe that's what that means for you.
Speaker 4: But like, try as best you can to arrange your
Speaker 4: immediate life as much in alignment with who you want
Speaker 4: to be as possible. And I think that you can
Speaker 4: do that in small ways and big ways, and that
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