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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Early January is the most popular time of the year

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Speaker 1: for single people to join an online dating site. I

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Speaker 1: mean it makes sense, right. They made it through the

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Speaker 1: holidays with every annoying relative asking them when they plan

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Speaker 1: to get married, and this is their time to take

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Speaker 1: the bull by the horns and decide to find their person.

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Speaker 1: New Year, New ye, and for many people that means

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Speaker 1: a new mate. So what's interesting about this, I think

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Speaker 1: is that it's usually an influx of men hitting these

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Speaker 1: sites at this time of the year. Now, why is

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Speaker 1: that surprising? It's because popular culture makes it seem as

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Speaker 1: if men are holding off from getting into relationships as

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Speaker 1: long as they can, and them joining dating sites shows

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Speaker 1: that maybe that's not so. The idea that men can

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Speaker 1: wait indefinitely to get me married or have children is

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Speaker 1: really a lie, and I think that it's one that

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Speaker 1: really needs exposing. Yes, men can have children into old age,

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Speaker 1: but why would they want to.

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Speaker 2: For a long time, men.

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Speaker 1: Were told that their dating and mating life could continue indefinitely.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Hollywood does it all the time, right. Steve

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Speaker 1: Martin became a first time dad at sixty seven. Rod

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Speaker 1: list of sixty plus year old dad's goes on and on.

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Speaker 1: But as I like to tell my single male friends,

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Speaker 1: you're not Rod Stewart. You're not going to have a

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Speaker 1: team of people to help you raise your kids. You're

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Speaker 1: going to get mistaken for the kid's grandpa a lot,

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Speaker 1: and it won't feel great. You can't wear leather pants

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Speaker 1: and talking a British accent. It's just not the same.

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Speaker 1: Even setting aside the growing concerns from the medical community

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Speaker 1: that a father's age can factor into various issues child

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Speaker 1: may have, including learning disabilities. Only people without children could

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Speaker 1: imagine that there's anything fun about dealing with a crying

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Speaker 1: newborn when you're sixty or going to a high school

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Speaker 1: graduation when you're nearing eighty. A few years ago, there

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Speaker 1: was this groundbreaking study called the Grant Study out of Harvard,

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Speaker 1: which was conducted over seventy five years, and it looked

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Speaker 1: into male happiness. What it found was that what makes

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Speaker 1: men happy is not very complicated and corny as it

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Speaker 1: may sound. Love is the most important factor in a

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Speaker 1: happy life for a man. Look love doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: mean marriage and children. But the study did find that

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Speaker 1: the happiest men had meaningful relationships, often yes with their

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Speaker 1: wives and children.

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Speaker 3: So that means that while short.

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Speaker 1: Lived affairs found you know, when you're swiping right on

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Speaker 1: these apps can be exciting, they probably won't ultimately lead.

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Speaker 3: To happiness for you.

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Speaker 1: The fact that relationships lead to happiness shouldn't be surprising,

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Speaker 1: but somehow still is because the line sold to men,

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Speaker 1: especially alpha men who have these options, you know when

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Speaker 1: it comes to choosing women, is that settling down is

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Speaker 1: for suckers. But more men are finding out that they

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Speaker 1: were suckers for believing that and waiting. It also seems

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Speaker 1: like men don't know who they're supposed to be anymore.

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Speaker 1: You know. While they get a lot of specific advice

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Speaker 1: during different stages of their lives, perhaps maybe even more

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Speaker 1: picture for men to live up to, you know. For example,

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Speaker 1: women are encouraged to have it all, which look is

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Speaker 1: a ridiculous goal, but it's a goal. Nevertheless. Women are

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Speaker 1: told to aim for family, career, a perfect body, strong friendships,

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Speaker 1: the whole package. Men are told to put off family,

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, women outpace men at colleges, but don't seem to

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Speaker 1: have that same pressure to have everything figured out before

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Speaker 1: they look for a commitment. My number one podcast listener,

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Speaker 1: my husband says that I've talked about the success sequence

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Speaker 1: too much on here, but to sum it up just

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Speaker 1: one more time, if you finish high school, get married,

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Speaker 1: success in life increases no matter where you got started

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Speaker 1: in life. For a lot of people men specifically, marriage

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Speaker 1: fact is that boys should be told that a large

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Speaker 1: part of their happiness puzzle will include a relationship. Tell

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Speaker 1: your children, specifically, tell your sons. Coming up next in

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Speaker 1: interview with Emma Joe Morris. Join us after the break, Hi,

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Speaker 1: and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: My guest today is Emma Joe Morris. Emma Joe is

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Speaker 1: politics editor and columnist at Breitbart and was previously Deputy

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for coming on, Emma Joe.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. I'm super excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: I'm super excited to have you be here. I usually

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Speaker 1: asked this question later on in the show.

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Speaker 2: But you're pretty.

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Speaker 1: Young, obviously, and already crazy accomplished. You're in a happy marriage,

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Speaker 1: and you're just generally very very cool.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like you've made it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you so much, and thanks to Hiley of

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Speaker 4: me and especially the young.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell the story about how you asked waffle house,

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Speaker 4: Were still friends. But yeah, so I guess I'm relatively young,

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Speaker 4: and i do feel like I've made it, and I'm

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Speaker 4: glad that you touched on, like you name the things

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Speaker 4: that you did, because obviously I've had a great career.

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Speaker 4: I've had a crazy career and it's been super exciting

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Speaker 4: really lucky. But I think that the metric have made it.

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Speaker 4: When I thought about that question is like, like having

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Speaker 4: think that that is so underrated in society lately, especially

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Speaker 4: like people in my generation and around my age who

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Speaker 4: exact opposite that I became so much more myself when

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Speaker 4: post being married, like and and you know, you could

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Speaker 4: be totally open with somebody and there's no like hiding

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Speaker 4: and no like bullshit, and like it's just that's that's

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Speaker 4: I have I have that, and that's that's definitely it.

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Speaker 1: And actually I love the story of how you met

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Speaker 1: your wife, though it's definitely going to enrage people who spend.

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Speaker 2: Like years swiping on the apps.

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Speaker 3: She was your first match, right, Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 4: I know it's very annoying for all of our parks

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Speaker 4: her about it. She's an artist and she is completely clean,

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Speaker 4: Well, no, not necessarily, I didn't think. I didn't think.

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Speaker 4: How old were you It's twenty six?

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Speaker 3: Wow, amazing, that's I love it.

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Speaker 2: So you write about serious.

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Speaker 1: Topics, but you do it in a really funny way,

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Speaker 1: You wrote about spending the day with an illegal immigrant

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Speaker 4: Yes, definitely, and especially like you know, you and me

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Speaker 4: write about similar things and it's just politics and politics

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Speaker 4: so niche too. Like you know, you write for like junkies,

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Speaker 4: And that's fine and whatever. And I like, I love

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Speaker 4: But I also think that there's certain things about our

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Speaker 3: And I don't think there's anything better than that.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent. That's exactly it. That's exactly it. And

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Speaker 4: anybody who you're going to be with for like one

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Speaker 4: two dates with different people, you're never fully authentic. And

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Speaker 4: that is probably the most unfulfilling feeling and the most

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Speaker 4: depressing feeling is feeling like you have to front all

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Speaker 4: the time, and then you get this idea in your

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Speaker 4: head that you don't even know who you are, and

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Speaker 4: if you did that, you couldn't really express You get

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Speaker 4: no practice in expressing that actually, And I.

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Speaker 1: Love that you used front because that's like one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite words ever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 1: Well, because you're so and here with your best tip

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Speaker 1: for my listeners on how they can improve their lives.

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Speaker 4: Get serious. You know, people think that you're young forever.

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Speaker 4: People think that you're you know, you're gonna be in

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Speaker 4: the same place forever, that you're gonna have the same

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Speaker 4: vibe forever and want the same things forever. And that's

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Speaker 4: not true. And I think that the best way to

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Speaker 4: get happy is I was actually just with Alex Marlowe

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Speaker 4: last weekend because we were at Ampest together and we

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Speaker 4: were talking about this, Like, get as serious as you

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Speaker 4: can about your future and your life as quickly as

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Speaker 4: you possibly can, and set yourself up as best as

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Speaker 4: you possibly can, as fast as you can. And if

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Speaker 4: that means, like you know, moving out, maybe that that's

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Speaker 4: what that means for you, Or if that means it

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Speaker 4: getting you know, a salary job as opposed to an

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Speaker 4: hourly job, Like maybe that's what that means for you.

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Speaker 4: But like, try as best you can to arrange your

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Speaker 4: immediate life as much in alignment with who you want

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Speaker 4: to be as possible. And I think that you can

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Speaker 4: do that in small ways and big ways, and that

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Speaker 4: is going to be the key to your freedom and

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Speaker 4: your happiness. I love that.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on EMO. Joe Morris.

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Speaker 1: Check her out at breakbart dot com.

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Speaker 3: She is fantastic and follow her on all the apps.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so.

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Speaker 1: Much, Thanks so much for joining us on the Carol

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