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Huh Okay, Well, We just 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:23.920 wanted to pop in and say thank you so much 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:28.560 to our listener Nick Yea for creating our new theme song. 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:33.320 It's pretty cool. Oh onto the show. Hey guys, welcome 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:37.240 to another episode of Thinking Sideways the podcast. I Am Devin, 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:41.720 joined this week by Joe and Steve, and today we're 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.759 going to do something a little bit different. You may 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:48.080 remember we've done these sort of things before, but we're 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:53.000 gonna do um a three for mystery kind of but 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:55.000 we kind of wanted to change it up. We're tired 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:58.560 of talking about murdered and disappeared kids and we are 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:03.480 really awful stuff and we've got a lot more. Yeah, 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:05.840 we've got a lot more coming down, So we thought 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:09.120 we would do something a little different. And um, we're 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:13.600 going to talk about cartoon conspiracies is what we're calling them, 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:18.120 but kind of weird theories that people have regarding cartoons 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:21.359 or cartoon universes or anything like that. And um, each 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:23.560 of us has our own that we like. And I'm 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.680 going to start because I'm bossy pants you are, and 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:30.840 mine is the most interesting. In the chair, I'm driving 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:34.200 this but okay, I know, I'm sorry, so I just 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:35.840 like it so much. I know you guys are freaked 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:37.760 out by it, but it's fine. I'm going to talk 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:41.400 about the Pixar universe, which I think many of my 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:43.640 contemporaries will know, and then, you know, people who have 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:47.679 kids will also be familiar with the Pixar universe. Hey, hey, 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:51.360 come on, I'm gonna think it does turn out that 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:55.200 Steve has seen more Pixar movies than I have. Yeah, somehow, 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.079 I've not seen very many at all, because you don't 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:01.120 have kids and you're an adult. Probably yeah, I however 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:03.320 him not I think adult. I mean I think I 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:07.280 didn't see the Incredible Yeah, okay, I saw that one. 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:10.360 So I'm gonna start off by saying that most of 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:12.959 the credit for this sort of theory go. It's actually 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:16.600 there's a book written about this whole world, and we 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.400 won't do it even a little bit of justice because 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:21.359 I'm not going to write a book for you guys 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:27.520 right now. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah, his name is John nageary um, 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:29.560 and he wrote a book. So if this interests you 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:31.720 and you want to know more about the theory, you 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:34.680 should definitely do that. Um. But I thought it's start 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:37.800 off by giving some credit where credit is due, that 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:40.040 this and I'm super intrigued by this, and he's not 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.960 the only person who's added to this whole timeline, but 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:47.520 I just want to get that out in the open first. Yeah. So, basically, 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:51.760 this theory is that Pixar all takes place in the 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:56.880 same universe, all of their movies, every single one, and 0:03:56.920 --> 0:04:00.360 it's it's actually a continual timeline, and I'm going to 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:03.040 talk about how these movies all fit together, and Joe's 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:04.800 gonna have nothing to say about it, and Steve's gonna 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:11.440 have a lot of um so in this theory, and 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:13.560 there's a big there's a big reveal at the end 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:15.680 of like what really ties it all together. I'm not 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:19.839 gonna I'm not gonna spoil it for you. Yeah, ahead, 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:23.640 you can. Yeah, it actually says that the top there. Yeah. Anyway, 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.360 so obviously this universe would start with Brave the movie. 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.920 You guys, I haven't actually seen Brave yet but not yet, 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:36.520 but Steve has seen Brave a lot um go to 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:41.440 Sleep movie, and so this theory starts with Merida discovering 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.040 the Will of the Wisps, which is like magic, right, 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:48.400 It's this blue magic thing in the movie. Sorry spoilers 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:51.680 alerts everybody. Uh this, it turns her mother into a bear. 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:59.240 Um no, but the will of the Wisps does explain 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:03.640 why animals and inanimate objects can behave like humans. So 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:08.680 this kind of starts this whole Pixar universe of you know, 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:12.440 weird things being very human. What's that? What's the word 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:22.880 for that? It's yeah. In Brave the movie, there's this 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:29.200 old witch who utilizes the magic and she mysteriously vanishes 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.560 through wooden doors. That's her mode of transportation as she 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.480 goes in and out of wooden doors, opens them and 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:37.880 steps the doorway and then closes them and by well 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:42.839 yeah who. So this sort of magic, and according to 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.560 this theory, is what leads to the rise of superheroes, 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:49.120 which leads us to Incredibles and and you know the Incredibles. 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:53.320 They are in that universe and in that world, the 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:56.400 superheroes are really maintaining peace and order in the world, 0:05:56.760 --> 0:06:00.880 as with good any good superhero franchise. But Buddy, you 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:07.839 guys remember Buddyddy never wear a KPE. Buddy, he created uh, 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:12.440 self serving AI robots and a high tech what it's 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:16.640 called zero point energy, which is just an electromagnetic energy 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:19.320 that exists in a vacuum sort of thing. This is 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:23.280 kind of where we start to see negative stuff come 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:27.480 from the inanimate objects being basically self aware. So this 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.640 leads us to Toy story one. In Toy Story one, 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.880 it's kind of when we start to see toys absorb 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:37.240 this zero point energy, which is you know, derived from 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:41.239 the will of the whisps, magic energy. It travels, it's unseen, 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:45.480 and the first signs of life from toys are present 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:50.479 because of Buddy who's syndrome, right, his technical prowess, I 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:52.440 guess is what you could say, there's why we have 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:55.960 Woody and everybody else. Yeah, And the toys, for their part, 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:59.240 they come up with kind of rules and learned that 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:03.200 human love can kind of enrich their lives and all 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:06.040 that stuff, and so they're really abiding by that. So 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.880 that's fine, no problem. But then into Toy story two, 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.080 we kind of start to discover that some toys have 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:15.280 isolated themselves, and that's obviously very dangerous. It's because human 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.800 love is actually overrated, as we all learn as adults. 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.400 It's not. Actually it's a bit fickle sometimes too. I 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:24.000 think you know what your toy you can get to 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.240 the good will or stuffed into a box and we're 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:30.600 left in a field. In Jesse's case, Yeah, we're gonna 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.160 take the cow girl, right, she was the cow girl. Yeah, 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.920 we're gonna take a little slight divergence here and hop 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:41.720 into the ocean. With finding splash, we find that fish 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:45.080 are actually incredibly advanced as well. At this point. They 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:51.560 have schools, they have a network of highways. Basically, I mean, dude, dude, Yeah, 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:55.680 Dory is an animal in that world. Everybody knows who 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.240 Dori is because it's own degenerous, so everybody knows who 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:00.960 that is. And the theory is that she was actually 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:04.280 experimented on by humans, which is why she's so forgetful. 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:08.080 Except Store Too, I'm sorry, No, I'll just wait. Emo 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.720 too kind of spears that whole idea, but I'll leave 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.200 it alone. And why would any experiment of fish like that? 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:16.360 Why to just catch her and eat her? Fighting? Emo 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.840 two is not in anywhere in this theory, it's not, 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.880 so do you want to finding Nemo two tracks Dories origins, 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:27.600 and I don't remember any experimentation happening in there. Well, 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:31.160 she's forgetful. She was forgetful since she was the itsy 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:34.240 bitsiest thing ever well maybe her parents were experimented on. 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:40.560 That's why she's forgetting LSD for fish. Actually, what happened. 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:43.320 It was a shipment illicit ship from South America and 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:45.440 the coast guard like was going about to like board 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:49.760 your shift, and it tossed it overboard and yeah, yeah, 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:55.360 like oh fish food fish food. Oh man, whoops, their 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:59.400 gums were all itchy, poor fish fish. Yeah. And we 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:02.800 also see this this animal kind of curiosity and also 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:07.600 heightened enlightenment, I guess self awareness with Ratatui, which is 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:10.080 one of my favorite Pixar movies. I don't know why. 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:14.560 I like the idea of rats, you like the idea 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:18.360 of rats and control. I don't know. It's weird anyway. 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:23.120 By the way, it's fresh for Rata tat is the 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:28.400 sound of machine guns in the comics Conspiracy. Oh my gosh. 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:30.920 This is the first time that we see an actual 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:33.840 interaction between right in Finding Nemo, there's some kind of 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:39.240 interaction between humans and fish. But yeah, it's terrifying interactions, 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:42.319 mostly which is caused a little girl's name when she 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:46.000 stuck her face on Yeah with the braces. No, no, 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:50.200 not interested. But it's interesting because in the first interaction 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:52.920 in the in the Pixar universe that we see animals 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:57.560 interacting with humans. It's to the purpose of controlling of 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:02.720 really idiotic human It was kind of dumb. We just 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:07.199 kind of dumb. Yeah, let's other ask controlling the human Linguini. 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:12.199 What did I say, Luigi? Oh yeah, Linguini. I was like, 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:15.800 where's Mario? I don't know, come on, get it together, 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:19.680 devon geez. Then three years later we hit Toy Story three. Now, 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:24.960 toys have gone through a lot with humans at this point. Yeah, 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:29.280 I mean they've been physically and emotionally abused. Most A 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.520 lot of the toys that we see in this movie 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:36.520 just straight up hate humans because humans discard toys like 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:39.400 they're just objects. Because frankly, humans, I think, don't know 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.240 that they're sentient beings at this point, and it's not 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:47.280 like the toys are doing much to like that serves right. 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:50.160 Green Army Men though, they're the ones who they're the 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:53.520 fighting force, except they turn out there their achilles heel 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:57.240 is a magnifying glass in the sun. Yeah, you know, 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:58.839 I had a whole set of those guys. I love 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.480 those things. So was a kid that not not just 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:03.120 last year. I mean, this is a long time ago. 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:10.880 The basement. Yeah, weird shapes and it's fine. Um. This 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:13.520 this kind of helps to set the stage for the 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:17.160 uprising that we're going to see in the coming years 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:21.119 of the sentient machines and toys and other things previously 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:25.120 in animate, previously in animate objects. Yes, this is when 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:30.160 we get to up and everybody starts crying hysterically. Why 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.880 why am I crying? Did you see up? You just 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:36.400 watched the first five minute? Well you you you're heartless, 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.800 You might not cry. Let me guess his mother gets 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:44.280 shut by a hunter. How could Yeah? Yes, for all 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:48.360 of you who's wat yes, that is exactly dang it. 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:54.440 So this theory continues on that Carl and Ellie actually 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:56.640 right to Andy to try to get rid of the 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:58.680 to try to convince him to get rid of the toys. 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:01.439 There's no actual, like back up evidence for this connection 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:03.800 at all, but well we'll go with it. Why not, um. 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:05.480 And the reason that they want to go live in 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.960 solitude is because they know that this uprising is coming, 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:11.360 and so they are trying to get out so that 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:12.880 they aren't a part of it and they can just 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:15.520 live their human life. Now, I think you need to 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:18.679 let people know that this this is this whole series 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:21.560 of clues in the movie, Like there's a letter from 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:25.160 Carl and Ellie panned in Andy's room. Is that right? 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.760 Because that's how that's how this this distinction or this 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:32.080 this chain of events were is kind of being assembled. 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.200 It's not just so you may not know. I guess 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:36.120 I've gotten this far. You may not know. I just 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:41.559 assumed everyone would that in Pixar movies, there's stuff that references. 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:43.720 They call them easter eggs a lot, but there's stuff, 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:46.680 little bits of reference to connect all of the different 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:51.960 all the different movies together with common threads and themes um. 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:55.120 And so that's where the basis of this whole theory 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:58.240 comes from, is the fact that it seems like they're connected. 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:01.040 But why would they all be connected? And especially when 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:05.720 we start getting into the like cars world, where like 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:08.440 humans just don't even exist at all, Like what could 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:11.079 be the explanation for all of these things existing in 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:13.960 the same world. Thanks, that's good for me to just 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:18.360 not be plowing through it was I just remember the 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.760 was it a postcard? Was that? What was? I think? 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:24.920 So something like that? It was you talking about? And 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:29.760 I think it's toy Story too. There's a bulletin board 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:31.560 and it's one or two. I thought it was three, 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:35.600 maybe three? Well Andy. In Andy's room, there's a corkboard. 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.000 He's got things pinned to it, and one of the 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:42.040 things is a postcard, right, yeah, I think I think 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.240 it's postcard at least a postcards from Carl and Ellie, 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:48.560 who are the characters from Up. So this is like that, 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.280 you know, now, Toy Story three and Up didn't come 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:53.640 out at the same time, so there's this weird back 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:56.600 and forth little bits that are in the background suddenly 0:13:56.600 --> 0:14:00.000 becoming things that are in the foreground in another movie. Totally. Yeah. 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:04.760 Uh so in Up again, spoilers, I guess, um, Carl 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.880 is let's just let's just apply a spoiler blanket to 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:11.600 this episode, yeah, which we did already. So Carl is 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:15.560 forced to give up his house to a corporation which 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:19.280 is big and large, which we'll talk l Yeah, we'll 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:22.760 talk about that in a minute, because they're expanding the city. Basically, 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:27.120 this is foreshadowing. Obviously, the corporation is the cause for 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.080 the pollution of the earth, and we'll get to this 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:33.320 when we talk about Wally, but it's mostly as a 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:39.280 result of technology overreach basically um, which we a little 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:42.160 bit and you know it's in the references real world stuff. 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:45.840 Right now, to Charles, who's the main antagonist in UP. 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:48.400 While one of the many main antagonists in UP. He 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.680 has this this army of dogs which he kind of abuses. 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:55.480 And you'll remember, you remember the Golden Retriever from UP. 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:58.160 You know. At this point, Carl kind of figures out 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:01.080 the animals can communicate with humans, and also the animals 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:04.240 are not happy with humans at all, and so the 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:07.680 kind of the training of the dogs, the really inhumane 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:11.880 treatment of animals leads to the tipping point of the war, 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:14.800 the war between what the animals and people? Animals and people? 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:19.120 What about what about the machines? Get in right, They're coming. 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:23.040 They're coming, buddy, Yeah, they're coming for you. Yeah. So 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:30.360 war on screen, no, no, no kids movies like PGG movie, 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:33.440 there's no This is just a we just an assumption 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:35.800 that people are making that a war happen. Most violent 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:38.160 things that ever happens in a Pictar movie happens in 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:41.560 the beginning of Everyone, where that silly lamp squishes the 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:46.440 line that's the violent I think that's actually true. Yeah, Ok, yeah, 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:49.480 for reasons that are not totally clear to me. I 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:51.920 think you have to read the book to totally understand why. 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:55.960 But for some reason, machines decided to come and and 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:59.280 save the humans sided with us. They sided with the humans, 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:01.880 may because we recreated them or something, I don't know, 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:03.840 but we all know how that goes. They also know 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:05.920 if they want to be like maintained and lubricated, they 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:07.880 kind of got to have us around. Well I'm not 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:11.760 according to the Cars universe actually, but yeah, but so, 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.360 but we do know how this always goes. You know, 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:16.800 machines rise up and they're like, we're going to help you. 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:19.360 But then the machines of course realize, oh, hey, actually 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:21.480 it'd be super easy for us to defeat you as well, 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:27.080 so so send us away. Yeah. Well, we did pollute 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:30.800 the earth a little bit, you know, humans basically started 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:35.000 to ruin the earth, and so we either sent ourselves 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.400 away or the machine sent us away. I'm pretty sure 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:41.000 we sent ourselves away. But also there's a question, based 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.800 on Wally, maybe the machines were kind of behind the 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:47.080 whole thing. Anyway, this is where we end up with cars, 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:50.680 where cars who are now sentient beings are on the 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:54.040 Earth alone, but all vehicles are sent beings at this point. 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:58.560 Sorry sorry, yeah, all vehicles, cars, planes, all them. Yeah, 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.240 although I will pause here to mentioned Planes is not 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:04.720 actually a Pixar only movie, but there's but the airplanes 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:11.920 in the Cars universe are also basically everything is yes, yes, um, 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:16.040 and so there's actually there was a movie called Planes. Yeah, 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.040 it's Airplane somebody else. They know it's Pixar and Disney 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.679 or something, so it doesn't actually fit any of the 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:24.520 Disney movies. Don't go in this universe Pixar Disney movies. 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:29.399 But okay, so humans gone, cars existing in the world 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:32.560 all by themselves, but also obviously polluting the heck out 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:37.919 of the world and making it totally uninhabitable for like anything. Cool. Um. 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:41.320 In Cars to we go to Europe in Japan, which 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:44.359 shows the same planet under the same circumstances. So we 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:47.159 know it's not just America with Michael Caine is the 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:50.760 super Spike car. Well we know that, you know, it's 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.840 not just America that suffered this fate of suddenly there 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:57.000 are no humans there, but there's still human infrastructure everywhere. 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.520 You know, there's still high rises, which like if cars 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.600 were in its own universe. Why would we have these 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:05.479 like giant buildings. They're driving around in them, they live 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:09.399 in them. How it doesn't matter. So they use the 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.480 elevator for crime and say did they look desolate and 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:17.479 then deserted? And they're perfectly maintained on the outside. But like, 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:19.840 you don't, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, But 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:22.400 I don't remember ever going into like a big high 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:25.679 rise on anything. Uh they do in cars to do 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:28.320 they Yeah, they're totally inside of buildings in card too, 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.720 because there's big galas and stuff. Oh that's right, yeah, yeah, 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:35.560 because that's where Bruce Campbell meets in. But the lower parts, 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:37.480 right are they go up? I can't remember. It doesn't 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:40.719 really matter much, but because because mayor has to use 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:44.280 the restroom. Right. So to my point though that they 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:46.080 you know, there's no reason for them to be this 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:49.640 human infrastructure if cars were the only thing that ever 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:52.560 existed in this universe. Well you know again they so yeah, 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.080 you're right. So obviously the people were there at one point. 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.240 Now that those high rises are obviously being used for storage, 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:05.560 yeah right, yeah, yeah, obviously there's the underlying factor that 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:12.080 we all know about axiom. We all know about We 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:14.600 all know about Alan Oil, which is the corporation that 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:16.520 you know provides all of the oil and all of 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:20.720 that stuff in the cars movies, which is owned quite 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:24.320 explicitly by BNL Big and Large, which is you know, 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:27.000 this huge corporation that runs everything and they're the ones 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:31.439 who run Axiom as well. So as previously mentioned, of course, 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:35.480 the earth becomes totally polluted, and it's not like we're 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:39.680 producing a lot of new oil for cars. So eventually 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:43.760 the cars run out of oil and just all die. 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:48.280 I do like Mater, Yeah, so they run out of 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:51.119 gas and and they just parked themselves and they're just 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.040 sort of trapped in a mobile or do they just 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:55.440 actually die And I think they just are trapped in 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:58.320 immobile and then they rust out because we see in Wally, 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:01.040 which is what we're going to talk about next anyway, 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:05.720 that things are just it's just like things giant trash piles. Yeah, 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:10.560 so they've been compacted down into small, little, neat piles 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:12.440 of stuff. But that's how the world is is it's 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:16.040 just covered in trash um, which one would assume would 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:17.399 be what the world would be like if it was 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:23.680 just run by cars and stuff. For a while also correct. Yeah, 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:27.440 so at this time, Wally is the only machine left 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:30.600 on earth. He survived because he was fascinated with human 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:34.240 culture and uh he also you know, has friendship with 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:41.040 a cockroach, but he also wasn't above certain types of cannibalism. Almost. 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:43.840 I was gonna say, I love the side theory that 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:47.440 Wally is the first robotic serial killer. Did you read that? 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:49.800 I did? Yeah, because he kind of is, though, I mean, 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:52.520 the only reason and you see this explicitly in the 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:55.840 movies or a movie. Um, the only reason that he 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:59.879 still exists is because he's not above just literally taking 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:03.480 parts out of other things and replacing them. It's like 0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:07.560 if if human parts were interchangeable. It's just like being like, oh, 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:09.280 there's a dead body, I'm going to take those eyes 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:11.240 because they look like they're in better shape than my eyes. 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:13.960 But the serial killer theories that he actually killed them 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:18.480 all just save himself, which he might have. Yeah, so 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:20.480 he found when he found them and took their stuff, 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:23.679 they were still function I thought that they were like 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:27.199 the like, you know, basically shut off at least or 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:29.920 does he actually pull the plug on himself and then 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:33.480 part we don't know. I kind of like the idea 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:36.960 that cute, cuddly Wally is was out there just ripping 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:39.920 the CPUs out of all of his buddies and taking 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:43.480 their person pieces. Yeah, it's possible. Yeah, But we also 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:46.919 see him as you know, kind of almost a robot Jesus, 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:51.280 because he and his love Eve bring humans back to Earth, 0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:54.840 back to the Garden of Eden of full of trash. 0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:59.760 During the credits of Wally, we do see you remember 0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:01.800 they've plant the tree that was the seed that they 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:03.720 found on Earth. So they bring it back and they 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:06.240 plant it and it grows into this really giant, mighty tree, 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:08.879 which is actually the same plant that we see in 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:11.600 A Bug's Life. You guys, remember A Bug's Life. It 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:14.560 wasn't like two thousand three or something when that came out. 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:17.200 I gotta tell you, though I kind of liked ANTS better. 0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:18.800 I know it's not a Pixar movie, but it kind 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:21.840 of liked ANTS better. I don't know that I had 0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:24.359 an opinion one way or another, although I gotta tell 0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:26.399 you that the thing that kind of signed to Ants 0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:28.680 off for me was I believe was it David's Spade 0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:31.080 that played the main character of that If somebody like 0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:35.840 that his voice doesn't do it for me. Interesting anyway, 0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:39.960 back to me talking talking, So you've been talking for 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:45.720 so long minutes, right, Basically, you know the ants, ants, 0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:50.280 all of bugs lives have been uh catches um, They've 0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:52.280 been extended, and I think a lot of that is 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:55.159 due to the wild the whisps magic that still exists 0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:58.080 in this world. So that will of the whisps magic 0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:03.479 um not only has elongated bugs lives, but also has 0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:08.320 encouraged a new step of evolution in these bugs. That's 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:12.560 just what we want, right, Yeah, which does actually make 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:16.560 them evolve into a different species. I don't know if 0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:18.920 i'd call it dominant. In the theory, it says they're 0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:21.520 the dominant species, but I don't think they're dominant. I 0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:25.000 think they're different, and that is that they eventually evolve 0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:30.040 into the monsters of monsters, You and monsters, inc. Yeah 0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:35.600 that doesn't work though, because they're animals. The majority of 0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:40.840 the creatures in the Monsters universe, monsters, you, and monsters, inc. 0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:45.520