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Speaker 1: Good morning, swearld and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by Fan Duel. It's Wednesday, January seventh, twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jay Skeats here in the good old Classic Factory

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Speaker 1: and alongside me as always Task Mellis.

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Speaker 2: Podcast listeners, this is for you.

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Speaker 1: Next to him, it's my top shot hot boy Tray

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Speaker 1: herby a ah and over yonder making the magic happen.

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Speaker 1: Super producer JD. Hello, there is here, we are. Hello

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Speaker 1: to everybody on YouTube. Hello, podcast listeners. Feels good to

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Speaker 1: be out of the box breathing the air.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: You saw me when I came out of the thing yesterday,

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Speaker 1: I was soaked. It's like a hillbilly sauna. I realized

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Speaker 1: I was drenched. I've run marathons and not sweat that much.

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Speaker 1: It's hot in that box. But it looked like people

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Speaker 1: enjoyed the pick and payoff JD, so good work on that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Did you buy a Sona yesterday?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: No, because it seems like not a box on it,

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Speaker 4: but like a cheaps onas are for sale?

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Speaker 3: Are they the days? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you get into a teeny tiny one for a

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Speaker 4: few hundred bucks.

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Speaker 3: Just get a box let's get a box and breathe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it works.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: We got a fun one for you today. Later in

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Speaker 1: today's show, we're going to grade some hypothetical Tray Young trades.

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Speaker 1: We're going to trade this guy to like five or

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Speaker 1: six teams. Oh yeah, he's going to the Wizards, He's

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Speaker 1: going to the Wolves. He's even going to our Raptors.

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Speaker 1: Task we'll grade that trade when it comes to Trey

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Speaker 1: Young trades. But first, we did have some basketball last night.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about a few of the games. Let's start

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Speaker 1: with Luka Doncic and Lebron James each dropping thirty in

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Speaker 1: the Lakers win versus the Pelicans. And after the game,

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Speaker 1: after both guys played really well, Lebron James reiterated tasks

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Speaker 1: the pecking order, so to speak, when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the LA Lakers, he said, quote, Luca is our franchise

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Speaker 1: for this ball club. He don't need to bend his game.

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Speaker 1: It's up to us to bend our game around him

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Speaker 1: and figure it out. That was Lebron LA one, their

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Speaker 1: third game in a row here without two starters in

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Speaker 1: Austin Reeves and Ruyhachamura. But what do you think of

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Speaker 1: this one?

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Speaker 4: A lot of respect from Lebron, somewhat bending the knee

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Speaker 4: to Luca for the first time in his career to

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Speaker 4: another guy. I think that was cool. I think his

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Speaker 4: thirty eight and eight performance for Lebron was also very cool.

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Speaker 3: Victims Lebron stuff good stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, amazing, And watching Luca was fun in this, and

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Speaker 4: how control of his body as he always is, you know,

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Speaker 4: with the modern day NBA and all the travels happening

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Speaker 4: because he is so slow.

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Speaker 2: I sometimes I watched that tape.

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Speaker 3: Is he traveling now?

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Speaker 4: Nah, He's just He's just that pace and he always

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Speaker 4: will be. He was so good that mid post move

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Speaker 4: on Pool even surprise himself where he was able to.

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Speaker 2: Score and that slow mow move and then he pulls

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Speaker 2: the classic European gesture. To me anyways, it's like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not bad, you know that.

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Speaker 4: And then obviously, with two minutes left he hits that

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Speaker 4: monstrous three, ridiculous three, ridiculous three.

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Speaker 1: But you're talking about the one where he used Lebron

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Speaker 1: as a pick at the hash.

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Speaker 3: Market and then just threw it up and fell into

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Speaker 3: something like that. The way they were celebrating together.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was awesome. It was It was really cool.

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Speaker 4: So those two guys did it. And that's what the

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Speaker 4: Lakers are right now. I mean, they're so top heavy.

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Speaker 4: They're so good between him and Lebron and Austin Reaves

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Speaker 4: when he comes back. And that's why they're climbing the

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Speaker 4: standings here because they have enough guys to beat the

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Speaker 4: bad teams against the sub five hundred teams. They're rolling

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Speaker 4: this season. They're twelve and three against sub five hundred

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Speaker 4: teams at the beginning of January, eight of their first

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Speaker 4: nine games against sub five hundred teams, and that's why

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Speaker 4: they're climbing. Combined with the Spurs loss that we'll get to,

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Speaker 4: they're near second place in the Western Conference, sitting in third.

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Speaker 4: So the other guys, the support guys did enough, like

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Speaker 4: Lebron in his interview talked about Dalton connect how they're

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Speaker 2: He knows exactly everything that's going on.

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Speaker 4: Shots when he said, d cam like, whoa here?

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Speaker 2: But you know they're down seven going into the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they started with the fourth quarter with an eighteen

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Speaker 1: to four run and then some of that was Lebron

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Speaker 1: hitting threes, Dalton connect hit a three, and then DeAndre

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Speaker 1: Ayton was getting some baskets inside. But that sort of

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Speaker 1: Pelicans as it got down the stretch and you got

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Speaker 1: some crazy Lucas shots.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, they beat the bad teams. Right, they

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Speaker 4: still want another guy. I think we're getting closer to

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Speaker 4: the trade deadline. We'll have NBA insider Michael Scotto on

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Speaker 4: the show tomorrow. Well, we'll be talking about potential players

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Speaker 4: like Trey Murphy on the other side dropped forty two.

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Speaker 4: Is Trey Murphy tradeable at this point? I know I

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Speaker 4: talked about him going to the Golden State Warriors. I

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Speaker 4: know Lakers fans are saying.

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Speaker 2: Get him on our team.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it would be nice if

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Speaker 4: he was able to they were able to just grab

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Speaker 4: Trey Murphy like that. But when you got two guys

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Speaker 4: like that doing what they do, that's enough against Repelicans.

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Speaker 3: Really. Yeah, every game around the trade deadline feels like

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Speaker 3: an audition, and that felt like one for trade Murphy.

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Speaker 3: The dude was hooping man hitting threes, dribble drives. He

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Speaker 3: got a giving go alley oop, which was crazy. But uh,

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Speaker 3: Lebron and Luca were just awesome. It felt like they

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Speaker 3: were wowing Joel Myers and Antonio Daniels on the call

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Speaker 3: for the Pelicans with some of the things they were doing.

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Speaker 3: Like when Luca got doubled way out on the far

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Speaker 3: left wing, he just throws a crazy over the head passer.

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Speaker 1: You're like, what's he doing right to.

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Speaker 3: DeAndre Ye for an alley oop, but two guys around him,

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Speaker 3: that was nuts and impressive stuff from both of these guys,

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Speaker 3: Luca and Lebron. I would love Kevin Love to just

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Speaker 3: put up a post fit in, don't fit out man.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's basically what Lebron's saying about himself because

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Speaker 3: I follow too many Lakers fans. They're just so prevalent

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Speaker 3: on the Internet and they're a little bit like, does

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Speaker 3: Lebron like playing with Luca? Does he like being the

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Speaker 3: It's a weird spot for him to be at. You

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Speaker 3: go and look at the on off Luke and Lebron

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Speaker 3: together minus three points per one hundred possessions together. But

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Speaker 3: last night they were plus four in twenty three minutes together.

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Speaker 3: They can be better together, and it mostly comes down

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Speaker 3: to Lebron buying in like he's saying, and he was

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Speaker 3: completely bought in last night to the point where he's

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Speaker 3: setting ball screens for Marcus Smart like it wasn't just

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Speaker 3: for Luca. He was doing the number two guy kind

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Speaker 3: of things that Lebron needs to do to make this

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Speaker 3: Lakers team as good as they possibly can. The Lakers

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Speaker 3: always do have a weird schedule because they like to

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Speaker 3: backload their schedule for when the NFL is done, then

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Speaker 3: they have to play all the good teams. So we'll

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Speaker 3: see what the Lakers are looking like once Reeves gets healthy.

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Speaker 3: If they make a trade deadline acquisition, they'll do something

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Speaker 3: I would have to imagine. But anytime these two can

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Speaker 3: go out and drop thirty together, you're like, Oh, that's

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Speaker 3: why the Lakers are a dangerous playoff team. You factor

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Speaker 3: in that they're undefeated in clutch games so far. They

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Speaker 3: got a chance against anybody. I don't know if I

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Speaker 3: would take them to beat anybody, but at least they

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Speaker 3: got a chance in one game scenarios at least.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is pretty wild that thes are still perfect

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Speaker 1: in clutch situations, in clutch games that get there, they're

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Speaker 1: thirteen and oh, that's the record for games that touch

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Speaker 1: the clutch definition obviously within five in the final five

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Speaker 1: minutes of regulation or over time. Now, when you look

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Speaker 1: at the actual numbers, they've played like way less minutes

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Speaker 1: than a lot of the other teams that have gotten

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Speaker 1: into clutch games. Okay, see Detroit, you know San Antonio,

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Speaker 1: even the Raptors have a good record in the clutch.

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Speaker 1: Only thirty minutes of actual clutch time by the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: So this is the thing. What thirteen and oh, wow,

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Speaker 1: they can't lose in the clutch. But then you look

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Speaker 1: at it, you like, well, they actually haven't played a

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Speaker 1: ton of minutes again defined by the clutch. Still impressive. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that not even have one loss in that. But it's

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Speaker 1: just that you got to take it with a grain

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Speaker 1: of salt. A lot of these other teams I just

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Speaker 1: listed have played twice the amount of clutch minutes.

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Speaker 3: That's all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you can get into the clutch and then

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Speaker 1: you can get immediately out of it.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty weird.

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Speaker 1: Like last night was in a perfect example that where

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Speaker 1: the lead balloons back to a more comfortable margin for them, So.

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Speaker 3: On the second fewest clutch minutes in the lake.

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Speaker 1: Isn't this strange?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: This that sucks? I'm sorry, that's weird. What's impressed? You

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Speaker 1: have to go into totals. I know that's exactly what

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Speaker 1: I did on MDA dot com. Showed out to Schumann

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Speaker 1: for that. That's weird.

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Speaker 3: And last night probably like bumped it up a little bit,

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Speaker 3: right because they got it was like, yeah, five point

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Speaker 3: game with like five minutes left, and the Lakers kind

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Speaker 1: Away after that. Fraudulent stats don't say that the Lakers said,

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Speaker 1: good Lebron ot games.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know about points.

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Speaker 1: Good point Back to Lebron here with the great thirty

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Speaker 1: eight and eight, he's going to be in the running

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Speaker 1: for a whol boy here tonight or today. Last night

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Speaker 1: was the seventh time in LA's past twelve games that

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Speaker 1: Lebron had scored twenty five points or more, and during

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Speaker 1: the Lakers current win streak here, Lebron is averaging twenty

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Speaker 1: nine points per game on like fifty nine percent shooting.

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Speaker 1: I bring that up because we were wondering not too

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Speaker 1: long ago, was like, is this guy gonna make the

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Speaker 1: All Star Game, Like, is the streak going to be snapped?

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Speaker 1: You know, he came back from the Seattica. He was

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Speaker 1: not putting up Lebron like numbers. He's pretty low still

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Speaker 1: in the All Star voting from the fans. We'll get

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Speaker 1: to that, but man, he's sure helping his case here

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Speaker 1: to at least be a reserve. Like you guys said

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Speaker 1: he would be, like, I'm the one going. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's deserving. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: great players. He's putting it together at the right time here,

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Speaker 1: Lakers winning that. You guys are probably going to be right.

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Speaker 1: I think a coach is gonna the coaches will select

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Speaker 1: him at the very least for a reserve, so he'll

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Speaker 1: come off the bench. Maybe, I guess, maybe, who knows

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Speaker 1: what these teams peer pressure, somebody will give him his spot.

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Speaker 3: There there's ten American starters. Yeah you tell he's not

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Speaker 3: gonna be one of them.

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Speaker 1: No, you're right, you're right. I keep forgetting of this

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Speaker 1: weird international. Yeah, of course the USA rule.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if it's not the coaches that pick him, it'll

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Speaker 3: You remember that guy, his personal catcher person catch?

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Speaker 3: It was like he knew how to call the games

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Speaker 3: he was like reciting his birth certificate statistics. It was

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Speaker 1: Oh god, totally yeah, in New Orleans got the victory.

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Speaker 4: I did see Greg Maddox's name recently for some reason.

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Speaker 4: if there's a new team in Vegas, Greg maddox will

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Speaker 2: Where does Greg Maddox attend that Lebron would.

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Speaker 3: He came to the Dodgers till late. Yeah, you're right, Greg, Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, last random Lakers thought you called it a hill

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Speaker 2: What you called it? Austin Reeves nickname hill Billy Kobe.

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Speaker 4: Maybe he starts to take saunas like a little little

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Speaker 4: Billy start start to hang Okay, old there I mean

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Speaker 1: so little y Yeah, he was great and we can

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Speaker 4: what's yeah, the situation here is he plays more, they win.

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Speaker 3: But who knows the first lead to the fourth quarter

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Speaker 4: They're waiting, they're they're playing it extremely slow. There's no doubt.

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Speaker 4: It was great to see the Grizzlies come back in

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Speaker 4: this game. A lot of effort from you know, one

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Speaker 1: I mean what I thought the game was over. It

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Speaker 3: Task nail. That Spencer was great. I thought Vince Williams

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Speaker 1: Well, Wemby after the game, there's a lot of good

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Speaker 2: In the eyes. Yeah, right, guys in squat position.

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Speaker 1: Has he ever met George Merrison. Is there a photo

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Speaker 2: Oh that's fine, A great question.

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Speaker 1: George Meerson is still with us?

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Speaker 4: Yes, okay, he is for sure because I double checked

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Speaker 4: that and just make sure because he's he's in a

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Speaker 2: Anyway, wait, you sell it short. I'll give you that.

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Speaker 1: Big teaso. Is this the same short with Kobe? This

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Speaker 2: Uh? How will it do? We never know how short?

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Speaker 1: You never never know.

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Speaker 4: The San Antonio Spurs are going to finish the game.

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Speaker 4: They should have finished this game. Yeah, I mean this

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Speaker 4: We should be talking about dearon Fox. We could have been.

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Speaker 4: I mean that he hit that three, then that mean

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Speaker 1: What's going on with Harrison Barnes here? Have you guys

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Speaker 1: shot like five of eleven. Everything else, he's had games

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Speaker 1: night one of six. He said, one game since Christmas

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Speaker 1: And he was like, remember we were talking him up

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Speaker 3: I'm generally a Harrison Barnes fan, like a mild family.

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Speaker 3: like a good guy, likes technology. But the Spurs could

437
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,400
Speaker 3: definitely upgrade his spot, and it'll be interesting to see

438
00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 3: if they decide to make a move at the trade deadline,

439
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,639
Speaker 3: because they do have pieces, they have assets, they've got

440
00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,920
Speaker 3: some contracts that they could throw into the mix, and

441
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,399
Speaker 3: that's definitely a spot that they could decide to upgrade

442
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,720
Speaker 3: if they want to, because, like Wemby's saying, they can

443
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 3: beat anybody. We saw it. They beat the Thunder three times.

444
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 3: They at least have a chance. And you know Wenby

445
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,640
Speaker 3: is ascending. He will be playing more than twenty one

446
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,159
Speaker 3: minutes eventually, hopefully by the playoffs. Hopefully he's healthy as well.

447
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,359
Speaker 3: We'll be interesting to see if the Spurs want to

448
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 3: do something they're usually or at least I would say

449
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 3: not usually. They used to be a team that never

450
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,400
Speaker 3: made a trade. Yeah, during the trade deadline, they obviously

451
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,119
Speaker 3: did Fox last year. They've gotten a little bit more

452
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,560
Speaker 3: aggressive making moves in the past five seasons, I think.

453
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 3: And maybe it'll be like we'll wait and see what

454
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,719
Speaker 3: other teams are doing. If other teams are beefing up,

455
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 3: maybe we should beef up as well.

456
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 4: Maybe Yeah, and then maybe it's time to give Carter

457
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 4: Bryant the Rooks some more minutes to bounce Harrison Barts.

458
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 2: Who is playing well.

459
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Speaker 4: And when you said how's he doing, I said he's

460
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 4: fine because he did have an athletic finish. Ye, he's

461
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 4: still athletic. He still contributes. But Carter Bryant, they're still

462
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,640
Speaker 4: playing that too. That guy is really really talented when

463
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,679
Speaker 4: he plays an extremely good defender. Obviously you know can

464
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:03,360
Speaker 4: improve offensively, but yeah, they could improve Devin Bisselm missing him,

465
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,439
Speaker 4: you know something. Yes, not being around yesterday, but some

466
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 4: bad minutes out there by yea our friend Kelly Oh

467
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,120
Speaker 4: who wears a backwards hat like you're wearing right now.

468
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 4: And when he got married, he was at the altar

469
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Speaker 4: with a backwards heat Yeah see he was.

470
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Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards had twenty six points to help the Wolves

471
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 1: beat the Heat one four blowout. Yeah, we got to

472
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 1: garbage time. Both coaches pulled all their guys when we

473
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Speaker 1: got into the final couple of minutes. It was disappointing

474
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 1: because this is one of the games on the docky

475
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 1: last night. We're like, all right, he playing pretty well.

476
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 1: Wolve's got a nice little streak going. This could be

477
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 1: a good one. I think they just played recently too,

478
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 1: where the Wolves took care of business there. So there's

479
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 1: like a little revenge game. But no, this was a

480
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Speaker 1: professional ass kick in here from Minnesota.

481
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Speaker 3: T K. Yeah and Aunt did a really good job.

482
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,959
Speaker 3: I thought of making Khalil wear pay every time he

483
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 3: wasn't up high enough on the screen, which was a

484
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 3: lot of the times on these pick and rolls. Five

485
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Speaker 3: of eight from three for Anthony Edwards and it was

486
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 3: just stepping into him quite easily. The Wolves had eleven

487
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 3: dunks last night. Rudy Gobert was throwing things down like crazy.

488
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 3: McDaniel's had a bunch of dunks, sixty two points in

489
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 3: the paint on the night for Minnesota. Miami also turned

490
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 3: the ball over eighteen times and gave up twenty one

491
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 3: points off that. Meanwhile, Minnesota's twelve turnovers only turned into

492
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 3: five points. They were getting back on defense, they were

493
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 3: playing harder, they were playing better. This was just the

494
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 3: dominant performance from Minnesota.

495
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, you often don't see the Minnesota Timberwolves play above

496
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 4: their competition. They played down to their competition. But it

497
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 4: was good for them to beat the Heat twice in

498
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 4: four days. You know, you'd think, okay, we just beat them,

499
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 4: maybe they'd relax, but they were assaulting the zone over

500
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 4: and over again. They used all those dunks to help

501
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 4: them out. Rudy is having a career year, and.

502
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Speaker 2: That career er, I shouldn't say that he's.

503
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 1: Having a very underrated good nobody's talking about him like,

504
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 1: do we need to start getting ready for Rudy Gobert

505
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Speaker 1: to win his fifth Defensive Player of the Year award.

506
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that far fetched. That guy. This

507
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 1: is everybody knows this is true, but he is still

508
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 1: a defense unto himself. It's not it couldn't's he's probably

509
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: going to miss it. He's not going to hit the

510
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: sixty five game threshold. I think he's already missed fourteen games,

511
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 1: so he's got a few more to play with wiggle

512
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 1: room there. Uh, chet Holgen is the favorite on fan

513
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Speaker 1: duel still, now that's a I think a part of that,

514
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: of course, is okay, see elite defense, let's give it

515
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 1: a representative there. But the Wolves are still a top

516
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: five defense and Rudy is I mean, he's just awesome defensively.

517
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: He's a game changer. The Heat score a lot of

518
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: points in the in the paint at the rim. They

519
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: didn't shoot a great percentage last night. Big part of that,

520
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert. I'm just saying, like he might have the

521
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 1: all time record, right because he's tied with a couple

522
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: other guys with four Defensive Player of the Year awards.

523
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it could be the guy he was playing against

524
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 4: yesterday and Bamdabaye who gets his first because that Heat

525
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 4: defense is still super super good.

526
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Speaker 2: Uh, you know they do enough, so that's not true.

527
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Speaker 2: I guess it's going to come down.

528
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Speaker 1: He's Rudy's up to second place. When it comes to

529
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 1: the odds on Fandalle, he's plus six hundred, so he's

530
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: climbed up there. I mean, he was much lower than

531
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: we were earlier in the season. Tim play, tim play.

532
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 1: But he's been good.

533
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 2: You're right, Yeah, he has been extremely good.

534
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 3: I thought it was an Ai clip I saw this

535
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 3: week of Rudy Gobert catching a ball in the short

536
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 3: roll and whipping it behind the back bounce pass to

537
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 3: the corner. But it was real. Yeah, he's throwing nice passes.

538
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 3: He's doing cool dunks right now.

539
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's kicking ass, shaving his head.

540
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 3: Great move.

541
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's back yep. And Tyler Herro was back too.

542
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: He had seventeen points in his return. He had missed

543
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: eleven games. I hadn't realized he missed that long with

544
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: a toe injury. But yeah, not obviously a great performance

545
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 1: here from the Heat and bam Adebayo. Oh man, this

546
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: guy has not scored over twenty since like mid December.

547
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 1: Great defensive player obviously still gets he rebounds and stuff

548
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: like that, but shooting the ball, he's struggling to right now.

549
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: He's in a funk. I can't believe that he was

550
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: with twenty twenty is nothing in today's I'm sorry, it's

551
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 1: nothing exactly, and he hasn't been there a.

552
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 2: Lot of times. Surprising.

553
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, other games last night, let me chuck them out. Yeah,

554
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: you can talk about as many as you want. Brandon

555
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: Williams hit a late three pointer gave the MAVs the

556
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: one hundred to ninety eight win over the Kings.

557
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 3: C J.

558
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 1: McCollum steadied the Wizards in the fourth. They beat the

559
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: Magic one twenty to one to twelve quality win, and

560
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: then the Cavs rallied late for the one twenty to

561
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 1: one to sixteen win, handing the Pacers a franchise record

562
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: thirteenth straight loss. Rick Carlisle still stuck at nine hundred

563
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 1: and ninety nine wins. It's been a month now, he's

564
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: been stuck there for thirty days. He's been stuck on

565
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: nine ninety nine. But any of those games you want

566
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 1: to talk.

567
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: About, Well, the Pacers.

568
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 4: They stink, but they have their own draft pick here

569
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 4: coming up, so that bodes well.

570
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's such.

571
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 4: That's a good little story, I think because they got

572
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 4: that pick back during.

573
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 2: The twenty twenty five NBA Finals.

574
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is amazing because we all have whoa team

575
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 4: trading their draft pick this coming draft for next year's

576
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 4: to go get it back because that's the pick eventually.

577
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's original.

578
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: They got bounced around everywhere and it made its way back.

579
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 2: To that exactly.

580
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 4: Originally the Pacers traded for Pascal Siak, then the Raptors

581
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 4: gave it to Pelicans for brandon Ingram cam Part and

582
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 4: then yes, last year, before the drafts, the Pelicans said

583
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 4: we want to pick, you know, we want to trade

584
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 4: up so they wouldn't get one, got one. In order

585
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 4: to do that, they had to give their twenty six

586
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 4: back to India.

587
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: It's worked out pretty well.

588
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: They're gonna get probably a really good player to add

589
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: to what is a good team when Aliverton's there, totally

590
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: and obviously.

591
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that means the Pelicans may have traded two

592
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 3: of the top three picks in the draft, maybe literally

593
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 3: maybe one and two.

594
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh my god, yeah, but I did see the

595
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 4: zion has played twelve straight games.

596
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 3: Zion's played twelve straight games. Literally, nobody talks about him anymore.

597
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 3: What's going on?

598
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: We were fighting through it there for a little bit

599
00:26:58,800 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: and then too much.

600
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: You're fighting through it.

601
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: We saw that we still have the box.

602
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 3: You want to get it all box on me.

603
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: Let me slid it out a little bit here.

604
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 4: I will say I always said I gotta I gotta

605
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 4: geek it out over the draft pick because it was

606
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 4: top four protected when they traded it to the Raptors, okay,

607
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 4: and then when it was traded to New Orleans, so

608
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 4: it was top four verdict.

609
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: At all times, covering a little bit.

610
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 4: But but Indiana's yeah, they're clear. I'm like, hold on,

611
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 4: they're the worst team in the NBA. If they get

612
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 4: the number one pick, is it protected from themselves?

613
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 3: No?

614
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: Good, amazing.

615
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 4: It's so weird you traded around. Do you remember who

616
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 4: was involved in that trade? It was pick for pick

617
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 4: plus one player that we have. We know it's a

618
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 4: deep cut.

619
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: You're talking. We know you're talking Pelicans.

620
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: I've never shaken his hands.

621
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: You're talking about the Pacers during the finals trade.

622
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it was that twenty five pick for We.

623
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: Talked about it on the show because it was during

624
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: the final.

625
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's a it's an incredible name.

626
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 4: Not in the though, I do not think so.

627
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 3: We've seen not in the league, and this trade happened

628
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 3: like six months ago.

629
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 2: I mean, he could be. We've seen him.

630
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 4: I think we've seen him play in the g League.

631
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 4: We know him on g Lee rosters, that's for sure.

632
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: I got I got nothing here. I don't even know

633
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: where to start. Give it to us.

634
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 3: It's a great name, Edmund Sumner.

635
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: I mean that's a good name.

636
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: No, no, he's he's.

637
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: Regal mojave King. Wow.

638
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: He's never played in the NBA. Really, no hobby, No, no,

639
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: no hobby. Anyway. I don't know about the Cavs.

640
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 4: On the other side of this, Pacers win, It's hard

641
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 4: to feel confident in this team at all.

642
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 3: I think they're doing better the general. Yeah, I mean, hey,

643
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 3: John Donovan Mitchell didn't play and they won. That's huge

644
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 3: that they've won four out of their last five, seven

645
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 3: out of their last ten. I think Darius Garland looks better.

646
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 3: He was great last night twenty nine points, six assists,

647
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,719
Speaker 3: zero turnovers, went seven for seven from the field in

648
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. Him being better has made Jared Allen

649
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: look better, has made Evan Mobley look better. He's just

650
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 3: a good downhill creator who's a good playmaker as well.

651
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 3: So Garland being able to take a little bit of

652
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 3: a step forward here is definitely helping the Calves. And yeah,

653
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 3: do you want to have to go on a crazy

654
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: run in the fourth quarter and have to beat the

655
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: worst team in the league. Not great, but they're super

656
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: banged up and they still got the win here. I

657
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: guess bad news bears again though. Max Strew's out for

658
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 3: another month. Yeah, and they're saying it's not even anything

659
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 3: that has changed with us, It's just take him forever

660
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 3: to heal. So more hats on deck for Max.

661
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, they just to me it all depends on Darius Garland.

662
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 4: You know that he's their barometer because you know Mitchell's

663
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 4: gonna get his and Evan Mobley has not lived up

664
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 4: to what he is. Can Garland be that guy that

665
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 4: they had last night?

666
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe maybe he's back, But.

667
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 4: I just can't get I just can't can't buy in.

668
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 4: At this point, They're down nine going into the fourth

669
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 4: quarter against the Pacers. That shouldn't happen.

670
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: Good rally there, but they want one thought from that game.

671
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: I was watching a lot of that one because it

672
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: was one of the earlier ones. If mac McClung is

673
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: not coming back to the dunk Contest to try and

674
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: win again, I think Johnny Furfy's going to be in.

675
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: The dunk contest. I was a dunk, right, the.

676
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,239
Speaker 1: Guy can fly, he can Yeah. I just have a

677
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: feeling the Pacers being six and thirty one too, you know,

678
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: just like, hey, go in the dunk contest, white guy, Yeah, exactly,

679
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: go in, do some cool dunks, try and win it.

680
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: I got a feeling like, look, I don't think the

681
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: NBA is like calling the Pacers and Johnny Ferby like

682
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: we gotta get you in. But you know how this goes,

683
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: Like they ask all the guys and they say no, no,

684
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: don't want to do it, No, no, no thanks, And

685
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: then you get to your Johnny Furfy's is my point.

686
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 3: Dude, you're getting the furfee.

687
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: I got a feeling we're getting a furf dog in

688
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: the dunk Contest that I'm here for. The guy can fly. Yeah.

689
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 3: Up above the Rims.

690
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: Mac mclung was released by the pacers, right, who cares?

691
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, you bring him back.

692
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: Back in the dunk contest. He has jumped over everybody

693
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: and every vehicle and everything, like we don't he was like,

694
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: he was good, like I will be honest, like even

695
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: three times there it was. It was solid. He put

696
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: on a show a lot of times. But I don't

697
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: think we need him again. I hope we don't need

698
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: him again.

699
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 3: I guess what you're saying, No return of the mac.

700
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: No, he's returned two times.

701
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, if I do it again, I know you

702
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 3: never know. As I jumped over wemb yet he hasn't

703
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 3: jumped around.

704
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right.

705
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 3: George Marasson is still available now. We're talk check it

706
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 3: every morning. Yeah, we could talk about him, just quickly.

707
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: About the Mavericks uh Win at the end, because it

708
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: was close. I don't know how much you guys watched this.

709
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: This was a very late start for us here on

710
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,239
Speaker 1: the East coast, so this was a morning watch from here.

711
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: At least highlights down the stretch and the Sacramento Kings.

712
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,959
Speaker 1: They are purposely trying to lose, I'm convinced, or at

713
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: least purposely trying to avoid overtime. They have Demartin Rosen,

714
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: who is still really good in the clutch, was hitting

715
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: clutch shots and then they're down too, and their shots

716
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: ended up being Dennis Shruder airballed three that then they

717
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: get back and then it goes to Westbrook who takes

718
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: a you know, like he gets a he gets the

719
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: ball at the three point line, probably could have shot

720
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: it right away, he didn't. He waited, he pumpedingked, you know,

721
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: and then he takes a shot and he misses it.

722
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: I just think they're like, we don't want to play

723
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: another five, Like, just go My point is, just go

724
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: for the win. Like DeRozan could hit a jumper to

725
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: get still overtime, but why we're not getting paid. We're

726
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: not getting paid overtime for this. I mean, that's the

727
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: ironic part in the NBA. So let's just go for

728
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: the wind. If we hit it good and if not,

729
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: let's go home. I'm telling you, man.

730
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 3: I give the credit to Jason Kidd on that one,

731
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 3: because DeRozan did make a couple of clutch jumpers. It's

732
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 3: going back and for like Williams hit a jumper with

733
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 3: a minute twenty left to rose and hit a three.

734
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: Cooper Flag had a nice lefty with just a few

735
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 3: seconds fifty four seconds left, errodes and then then hits

736
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 3: a jumper. So then Jason Kidd says, hey, Anthony Davis,

737
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 3: go guard DeMar de Rosen. Yeah, because he can't just

738
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 3: pull up over. You didn't have the shot drove baseline.

739
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: That's when he found Shruder for the air ball and

740
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 3: then it bounces out to Westbrook and there's Anthony Davis

741
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: again on Westbrook. Westbrook didn't want to attack him either.

742
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: Good challenge. MAVs are ten and nine when Anthony Davis plays.

743
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 4: Good record, And it was good to see Cooper flag

744
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 4: not hit the rookie wall, I mean not hit it

745
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 4: repeatedly because he's the last three games he just hasn't

746
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 4: been right and he's back. He had he had a

747
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 4: solid game.

748
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. And that move that you mentioned on.

749
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 4: Russell Westbrook coming from the corner and then Russell tries to

750
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 4: go for the ball, Cooper Spins goes to a lefty

751
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 4: hook that was pretty sweet, and then Key passed to

752
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 4: Brandon Williams to hit a three there. Yeah, it was nice,

753
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 4: nice pass. Brandon went no hesitation on that three point poll. Yeah,

754
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 4: surprisingly because he's climbed to nineteen point five percent, three.

755
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: Point lean shot. He was shot.

756
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was.

757
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 4: A really good shot for them. But yeah, on the

758
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 4: other side, I mean, no supponse whatever. It hurts them,

759
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 4: but they should win. They should win at home. But

760
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 4: I don't know the zach Lavine doesn't box out Naji Marshall.

761
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,479
Speaker 4: And then you know de Rozan's disappointing shot to try

762
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 4: and tie. It was a try and tight er, try

763
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 4: and win it. The one legged three pointer at the

764
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 4: end of the in the fourth quarter was one legged shot. Man,

765
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, that's a deep shot, one leg It's

766
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 4: a disappointing, disappointing.

767
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: Eight and twenty nine the Sacramento Kings. Remember when we

768
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: were locking the.

769
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 3: Over over yeah, man over, Yeah, we're only halfway through

770
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 3: the season. Take second half of the Kings. So it

771
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 3: goes an offense. If I'm not mistaken. I was like, oh,

772
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: they'll be good on offense.

773
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

774
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 3: How are you doing that?

775
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? When you look at Tankathon, you got the Pacers

776
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: six and thirty one, they've lost thirteen straight. Then you

777
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: got the Pelicans who are eight and thirty they've lost

778
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: eight straight after they had a win streak. Remember that,

779
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: don't worry that pick going to the Hawks, and then

780
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: the Sacramento Kings are eight and twenty nine, they've lost

781
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: sixth straight. And then it goes to double digit win

782
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 1: teams like the Wizards, the Nets, you know, the Jazz,

783
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: the Hornet, stuff like that. I say that because I'm wondering,

784
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: are those going to be the three worst teams when

785
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: it's all said and done, because the Wizards did get

786
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: a win anyway, want to talk about them briefly. I

787
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: know we'll get into the Tray Young trade rumors and

788
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: the Wizards, but about the game itself.

789
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: Tray is ready, Tray's ready.

790
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: Mine On's alden ly.

791
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 3: On the other side, the Magic haven't won consecutive game

792
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 3: since December first.

793
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,479
Speaker 1: That's bad.

794
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty bad.

795
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 4: And you go down twenty six points to a team

796
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 4: that you know, the Wizards have play hard, that's for sure,

797
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 4: but you go down twenty six points, that's just an everything.

798
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 2: Literally.

799
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 4: Jamal Moseley, who's being questioned all the time, had to

800
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 4: pull his starters.

801
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 2: Yes, and the bench did a good job coming back.

802
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: And then he was like, we're sticking with them.

803
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, those guys. Jace Richardson Noah Penda. Nice to

804
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 4: say that name. Jonathan Isaac Tyas Jones, jeded Howard Goga.

805
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 4: They got him back. So it's all about coaching. The

806
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 4: question about Jamal Moseleya and yeah, but you can't go

807
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 4: down twenty six of the Wizards.

808
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 1: If you were a coach, what would you do? Exact

809
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: same scenario. Your team, your starters have no juice, You're

810
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: getting waxed by one of the worst teams in the

811
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: league in the Wizards. You put all the bench guys in,

812
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 1: they play their ass off, they get you back into

813
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: the game. And now a decision has to be made.

814
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: Do we just run with these guys because they deserve it,

815
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: because they're the only reason we're even in the game

816
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: is because them. Or do you go back to your

817
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: starters and say, okay, guys, now you are the better players,

818
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 1: go close the shot. I mean, that's a tough decision, honestly.

819
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: To me, I go over to the score table, I

820
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: grab my leather jacket. I put it on.

821
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 4: That's what's what I'm wearing when I make big decisions

822
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 4: as a coach, and I say.

823
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: You guys are staying in it's my business jacket. You

824
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 2: guys are staying in.

825
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: No, I don't think it's got a jacket decision. Jack,

826
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 1: I like I listened.

827
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 4: I didn't just come up with Oh, I did just

828
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 4: come up with that. But I did see PJ. Washington's

829
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 4: leather jacket yesterday and I thought people are breads around.

830
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: And puts things together amazing.

831
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 2: But I do have it in my notes.

832
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 4: If we were going to make another additional comment about

833
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 4: anything in the NBA last night, it was going to

834
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 4: be PJ.

835
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: Washington. Leather jackets are a thing people wear.

836
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 3: Leather's back. I would love to get a leather jacket,

837
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: you would. Yeah, are cool, classic cool jacket.

838
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: That's why he's wearingdom.

839
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 4: I mean to think about I just feel so hot

840
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 4: thinking about think about you and jackets. I think leathers,

841
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 4: leather jackets are not breathable period. Oh god, but people

842
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 4: say they are, but they're not.

843
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 2: Anyway, Coaches should wear sleeves.

844
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 3: It's just something I think I've seen Quinn Snyder a

845
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 3: lot recently wearing a short sleeve polo shirt. You do

846
00:37:54,760 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 3: not want to see coach arms.

847
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: He does, so you don't want to coach forearms.

848
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 3: Wow, Definitely don't want to see coach elbows he's.

849
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: Got, you've got Harry forearms, right.

850
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: I think I do have one more note about the Wizards,

851
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: and this is from Hall of Famer David Aldridge, because

852
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: Alex Sar went on NBA TV last night after the game,

853
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: after the win, quality win, and DA retweeted the video

854
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: the clip of Alex r on NBA TV with them,

855
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: and this is what he said. This will seem wild

856
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: to some, but little things like this matter to a

857
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: team that's been clowned nationally for decades. Most of it deserved,

858
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: to be sure, one of the Wizards young players, young guys,

859
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: after a win over a good team, is asked to

860
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: come on a national postgame show. Small moves. It's the

861
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: hell of a point for DA. That's a small win there.

862
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: It is, it is, It's not nothing. I get what

863
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: he's saying here. And it's good for Alex Aar as well, obviously,

864
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: as a young guy who's trying to put together some

865
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: winning basketball in Washington. Good point, DA. That's why he's

866
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, absolutely. And I mean he's been

867
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: around this Wizard's team too. Oh man, I've never seen

868
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: a guy on NBA TV from our squad, all right,

869
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: let's get to some returns second returns. When it comes

870
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: to the All Star voting, Luca and Jannis remain your

871
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: leaders in their respective conferences. In the West, Lucas still

872
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: leads all NBA players with two point two million plus votes.

873
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: The rest of the top five in the West, it

874
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: remains unchanged from the first fan returns. It's Luca, It's

875
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: Yoki Chet number two, steph At number three, SGA fourth,

876
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 1: Wemba Yama fifth, and Anthony Edwards stays in sixth place.

877
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: In the East, Nick's guard Jyllen Brunson has moved into

878
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: second place, followed closely by Tyrese Maxian third, Kate Cunningham fourth,

879
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell fifth, and Jalen Brown still sitting in sixth

880
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: spot behind Mitchell. Just behind Mitchell, Kenny sal His dance

881
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: his way into the fifth spot. I don't think it's

882
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: going to take long. But any thoughts here on second

883
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: returns because it's pretty similar.

884
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 3: Very similar, and I don't know why I'm always drawn

885
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: to the bottom of the ballot. Yeah, Devin Booker too

886
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 3: low seventeenth. That's crazy. He dropped two spots in voting,

887
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 3: did he really? Despite some big wins and some huge shots.

888
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 3: He was passed by. I'm pretty sure Kawhi Leonard and

889
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 3: Cooper Flag. I think we're the two guys that passed him.

890
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 3: But he's fifteenth in the league in scoring, seventh in

891
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: clutch points. Andy's a four time All Star, which kind of,

892
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 3: you know, seems to build on itself. I think the

893
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 3: Sun have been a great story this season. So yeah,

894
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 3: that was a little disappointing to me.

895
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: Okay, any thoughts from you on this.

896
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

897
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 4: Jamal Murray also too low fifteenth. I think he's very,

898
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 4: very worthy All Star. To sit fifteenth, that's pretty low.

899
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 4: But the big news I thought what we would be

900
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 4: leading the second return of the All Star ballot is

901
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 4: Scottie brons is on there, oh Canada doing some work

902
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 4: he wasn't on there. Is fourteenth, and it's pretty close

903
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 4: to Brandon Ingram at eleventh. And maybe because they are

904
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 4: so close, they'll cancel each other out when those the

905
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 4: All Star reverse reserves will be picked by the coaches

906
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 4: and these two guys are not going to be starters,

907
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 4: and so when they decide, I don't know who am

908
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 4: I picking here? Because the coaches plan their games around

909
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 4: brandon Ingram's offense. I think there's no doubt, but you

910
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 4: see the doubles come from brand Ingram. He is the

911
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 4: better score between the two, but I think Scottie Barnes

912
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 4: does way more and will earn a lot of people's love.

913
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 4: So I don't know who the coaches are going to

914
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 4: vote for if they pick one of those guys, because.

915
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 3: They are pretty high in the standings right now.

916
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: So if you got to pick one, I don't know,

917
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: maybe they cancel each other up.

918
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: Okay, So anyway, Darko and Canada and the rapid Is

919
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: Nation coming through at least getting them on there. It's

920
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: a good point. I miss that, actually good. I just

921
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: everybody knows. The NBA All Star voting concludes on Wednesday,

922
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: January fourteenth, that midnight, So one week week, one week

923
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: left to get your fan votes in. I don't think

924
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: much is going to change at the top here when

925
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: it comes to doesn't say it said starters, Yeah, I

926
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: mean I guess maybe maybe Jaylen Brown could jump a

927
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell at is close and he was playing well,

928
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: and Celtics obviously up up in the standings. We'll see

929
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: NBC and Peacock will reveal the starters on Monday, January nineteenth.

930
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: That's when we learn who the starters are and then

931
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: we go from there. That's when the fun really begins.

932
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: That's when we can start picking reserves, debating that love it,

933
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: talking about whether a guy is international or not. Check

934
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: you want to talk about the birth certificate. Let's see it.

935
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 3: NBA All Star Reserve is brought to you by twenty

936
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 3: three and meters.

937
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: We gotta check your stats. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

938
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 4: First I was thinking about kat when looking at this ballot,

939
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 4: and maybe because he just had a poor game and

940
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 4: wondering is he going to be an All Star? I

941
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 4: assume he's having a good year, but will he play

942
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 4: for Team International? I don't, but I know that it

943
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 4: will be on at five pm Eastern to be in

944
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 4: Pacific when we'll be doing our I think live stream.

945
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're talking about we're doing this All Star weekend.

946
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: The Dunk Contest is going to be back. I can't

947
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: believe we're I think the plan like last year, we

948
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: did a live watch party for All Stars Saturday or night,

949
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: Saturday Night from the Factory, and then we did a

950
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: post podcast, Let's do that again, and then yeah Sunday

951
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: we got this international twist. We got to see how

952
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: that works. There's no mister Beast in sight. Uh, well,

953
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: who knows, he'll probably Uh, he's doing his own thing,

954
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: his own beast schemes. I think just a premiere season.

955
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: He's going to be on Survivor for crying a lot.

956
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: But we'll do but we'll do a watch party. Is

957
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: literally going to be no, no, not. He's going to

958
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: show up with a briefcase. What's it called? What's the word?

959
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to look for that at a challenge? What's

960
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: that challenge?

961
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: Where they've been on things the auction Survivor auction. But

962
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 3: he's doing ykay? I think so that seems like it

963
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 3: Home and Home though. Jeff Probes is hosting something for

964
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 3: Beast Game season two as well. Girls Girls Paused the

965
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 3: ad brought me downstairs dead.

966
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: Jeff is on Beast Games.

967
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 3: Jeff, he's a guy we know.

968
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: So anyway, we'll do a live watch party for this

969
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: five o'clock All Star tournament. Yeah, yeah, yeah, why not

970
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: be here? We'll be here, Hey, may we'll stick around

971
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: watch some Winter Olympics.

972
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 3: After sure, save the box, go in it?

973
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: Why not if you want to wear leathers for the

974
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: All Star be cool, too hot? Too hot? All right,

975
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: that's that's enough that the All Star fan returns. Let's

976
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: take a break and then we'll get into some hypothetical

977
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 1: tray young trades.

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999
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:58,000
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1000
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:00,520
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1001
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: What a weird thing. Then one literally racing marbles. I've

1002
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 1: held onto it a little bit. I follow not Marbles.

1003
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: I do follow on Instagram. Is it called a tiny

1004
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,440
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1005
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,839
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1006
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,840
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1007
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: similar thing and I watch everyone.

1008
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 3: Yeah you got a favorite.

1009
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,600
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1010
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,799
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1011
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 1: think it may have hit double digits. Couldn't ye really

1012
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 1: good good speed around Marbula one. I think I bought

1013
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 1: a shirt. Wow, yeah, yeah, it was like the shittiest shirt.

1014
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: I wore it once. It smelled like vinegar.

1015
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 3: I hate that. I hate that when you get it

1016
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 3: and you can tell it's been into like one second ago. Yes,

1017
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 3: by the way, like vinegar, though, I don't get. I

1018
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 3: don't know. Let us know the screenprinters.

1019
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, breaking t T shirts from the no Dungs merch.

1020
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: You don't got that problem. High quality shirts, so like shirts.

1021
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: So it's like Jamie Matraman shirts, which smells to me,

1022
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: Jamie matrim sounds like the beach.

1023
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 3: Jesus, if you know who.

1024
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: The hell we're talking about, you've been on the internet forever. Okay,

1025
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: Trey Young and the Atlanta Hawks are headed for a divorce.

1026
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: We discussed this on yesterday's show. The two sides are

1027
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: working together to find a deal ahead of February's NBA

1028
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: trade deadline. So let's grade some trades. Yes, we went

1029
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: scouring the internet for some hypothetical Trey Young trades. It's

1030
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: got a lot of these from our guy Sam Vessini

1031
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: at The Athletic, Kevin Pelton, Zach Cram at ESPN, Sam

1032
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: Quinnitt's Sports. They were coming through with a lot of these,

1033
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: so I wanted to pitch them to you guys, to

1034
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: everybody on YouTube, to the podcast listeners, and let's grade them,

1035
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: you know, talk them out, think they're likely, think they're

1036
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: better for one team than the other. At this stage,

1037
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 1: before we get into them. The Hawks aren't likely trading

1038
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: Trey Young for any real value, right, Okay, They're probably

1039
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: just trying to cap dump him a little bit before

1040
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: he picks up that forty nine million dollar player option

1041
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: for next season. We've gotten to the point where they

1042
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: have picked a direction, the Hawks, it feels like, and

1043
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: that direction does not include Tree Young, and they just

1044
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: want to get off that money and maybe get a pickback,

1045
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: maybe get a player that could help. But it's like

1046
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: these aren't sexy as the point, well, I.

1047
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 4: Think it got a little sexy when the Hawks start

1048
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 4: throwing in picks into these proposed trades.

1049
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: I think that's crazy talk. What that the Hawks are moving.

1050
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 4: Well in a three team deal to be able to

1051
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 4: get somebody sexy, not because they're just trying to get

1052
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 4: rid of trade, but because of what's coming back in return.

1053
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 4: Because I think this second deal that we'll get to

1054
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 4: is not bad.

1055
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, well let's start with the first one here,

1056
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: because this is the most obvious one, some sort of

1057
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: form that gets Trey Young traded to the Wizards for

1058
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: basically expiring money. It's that CJ. McCollum and that sexy

1059
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 1: expiring deal. So we'll go with this one. This one's

1060
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 1: from Sam Vcini. The Wizards received Tray Young, Hawks get

1061
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: CJ McCollum, Corey Kispert twenty twenty six OKC first round pixel.

1062
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: Let's call it what it is. It's probably gonna be

1063
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: the thirtieth pick in the first round and then maybe

1064
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: two second round picks because the Wizards do have a

1065
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: lot of second round draft capital. TK great that trade.

1066
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: You were high on this early. You were sort of

1067
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: calling this sort of trade a couple of weeks ago.

1068
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: Still a fan of the concept of Trey Young to

1069
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: the Wizards. I like it.

1070
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 3: I would give it an A minus and I think

1071
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 3: it is great because it's good for Alex sar guys.

1072
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 3: Top fifteen in roll man frequency. He likes to set

1073
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 3: a pick and roll thirtieth percentile, though in scoring, not

1074
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 3: very successful at it. Trey Young, on the other side,

1075
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 3: thirteenth in ball handler frequency I was deep in the data,

1076
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 3: seventy second though percent island success. He's a great pick

1077
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 3: and role player. In fact, he needs a pick and

1078
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 3: roll to really get going on offense. But he's one

1079
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 3: of the best orchestrators out there. You can see how

1080
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 3: he would help Alex Sar. Then you'd think about what

1081
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 3: the Hawks would be getting back in return.

1082
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 1: CJ.

1083
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 3: McCollum fills in for Trey as a shooter. He can

1084
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 3: play off ball a little bit more than Trey Young does.

1085
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 3: I do believe Corey Kispert fine, like he's just gonna

1086
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 3: be a depth piece. He canna just imagine him and

1087
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 3: Luke Canard together, Oh fineteen times exciting times here in Atlanta.

1088
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 3: But Atlanta would end up with the second pick right now,

1089
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 3: at least depending on how things shake out, they would

1090
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 3: have the second pick, the eighteenth pick via Cleveland, and

1091
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 3: then the thirtieth pick via this OKC thing. Either they

1092
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 3: draft guys or they use those three picks to acquire

1093
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 3: a bigger name. I think this makes sense for all

1094
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 3: both teams, though I've heard some concern from Wizards fans

1095
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 3: that are like, why do we want to try and

1096
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 3: make the play in all the time? Why do we

1097
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 3: want to accelerate our rebuild just to be a play

1098
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 3: and team into that? I say, because you haven't been

1099
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 3: a playing team. You haven't made the playoffs in four years,

1100
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 3: and you haven't won a playoff series in almost ten.

1101
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 3: So trending in the right direction, I think is probably

1102
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 3: an okay thing to happen. So I'm in on this

1103
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 3: trade and it would be the one I would vote

1104
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: for for the ones we're gonna be talking about today.

1105
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Wizards duo the Knicks a top eight protected

1106
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: pick this year. They currently have the fourth worst record

1107
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 1: in the league. We recently went over that the team

1108
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: with the fourth worst record cannot pick lower than eighth.

1109
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: But like Trey said, Tass, you know, is there concern

1110
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: if you're the Wizards you add Tree Young, that you're

1111
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 1: gonna like climb too much and like hurt your chances

1112
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: of keeping that pick. I don't think so, not this year,

1113
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: So I don't think that's a real concern.

1114
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: But I don't think they're going to climb too much.

1115
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 4: And the fact is that they've got so many capable parts,

1116
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 4: you know, playing around Trey Young in this scenario, you

1117
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 4: want to help out those guys to some degree, not

1118
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 4: just be in a losing scenario all the time. You

1119
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 4: want to put some butts in the seats. I think

1120
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 4: Trey Young would help do that. They're one of the

1121
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 4: worst teams in terms of attendance in the NBA, so

1122
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 4: I see nothing wrong with it. I had it as

1123
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 4: a B plus, but I'm boosting it to an A

1124
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 4: minus after hearing you know Trey's arguments there. Look, Trey's

1125
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 4: talent Trey Young, not Trey Kirkby. But I was gonna

1126
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 4: say Treyng is talented. Guy Trick Kurby also talented guy

1127
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 4: Treyong on the floor can drop thirty thirty five anytime.

1128
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 4: And this is a commitment for a one and a

1129
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 4: half seasons. It's not a ton, it's not a lot.

1130
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 4: And you're giving up CJ. McCollum towards the end of

1131
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 4: his career. If you want to turn and deal him

1132
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 4: in exchange for a draft pick to somebody else, you know,

1133
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 4: maybe you can do that. You can try and do that.

1134
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 4: The Corey kispert thinking part of the rotation and the

1135
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 4: thirtieth pick. I see nothing wrong with that. I see

1136
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 4: Trey helping out guys, obviously Alex are as you said

1137
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 4: the pick and rolls. I think he can help Tree

1138
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 4: Johnson a little bit, he can help bub Carrington a

1139
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 4: little bit, just just to have a ball handler around.

1140
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: Why not. I don't see anything wrong with this trip.

1141
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: There is some debate about that that I've seen and

1142
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: heard the addition of Trey Young and Washington, does it

1143
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 1: supercharge their developmental process with guys like Sar, Trey Johnson,

1144
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: Keishaan George, you guys sounding like you think that is

1145
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: the case. And then some people say, no, he might

1146
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: stagnate their developmental process because Trey Young is an offense

1147
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: and to himself, and he's got the ball a lot more,

1148
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: and maybe you take reps away from some of these

1149
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: other guys. I sign more with you guys in this case,

1150
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: but I get some people pushing back saying, yeah, you

1151
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: really want that. You think he's gonna help, but he

1152
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: actually may hurt some of these other guys, not Sar

1153
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: so much, but maybe some of the other more winging

1154
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 1: guard He could be good for Sar.

1155
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 3: But yeah, you can't deny that most of the young

1156
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 3: guys on the Hawks haven't developed while Trey Young has

1157
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 3: been the leader there.

1158
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 2: M hm, that's fair point. That's fair point.

1159
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 4: He has tried to get off the ball a little

1160
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 4: bit more, but he definitely is the offense. I mean,

1161
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 4: Jalen Johnson, you know, to argue you he isn't a

1162
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 4: ball handler at the same time, but he has developed,

1163
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 4: you know, so he.

1164
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 3: Plays better when Trey is not out there.

1165
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, because he is more of the offense

1166
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 4: himself for sure. Yeah, but these other guys that we're

1167
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 4: talking about in bubb don't George and Johnson exactly.

1168
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 3: I also don't think there's a Jalen Johnson on the Wizards,

1169
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 3: right No, but.

1170
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fair. And they are absolutely cooking right now.

1171
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 4: They're absolutely playing well. They absolutely move the ball and C. J.

1172
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 4: McCollum is really good off the ball and he's part

1173
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 4: of that offense so well. So I understand the hesitation.

1174
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 4: I do understand it. Why I give up a draft pick,

1175
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 4: even though it is the thirtieth pick, it's you know,

1176
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 4: call it a first round, it's borderline a second rounder.

1177
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 4: It's it's pretty freaking high because that pick.

1178
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: Tell me, if I'm wrong, that's like the worst of

1179
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: the Clippers, Rockets and Thunder.

1180
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 2: I think the first round pick, it's okay, he's pick,

1181
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 2: isn't it their pick?

1182
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: Well it's going to be, is my point. Okay, I

1183
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: thought it was a worse stuff.

1184
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 2: I thought it was just an Okay, well, maybe you're right,

1185
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 2: Maybe right, I.

1186
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: Think so, I mean again, this is like semantics.

1187
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to.

1188
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: Be okay, see, because they're going to be the best,

1189
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: meaning it will be the worst. Yeah, right, So anyway,

1190
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: it's an end of the first round pick, yeah, and

1191
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: maybe some second round draft capital, like we're saying this,

1192
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: and then for the Hawks, like it sort of makes sense.

1193
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: This is what I think they're looking at.

1194
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 3: Here.

1195
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: You get off of Trey Young's contract, you retain some flexibility,

1196
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: you do open up cap space moving forward. You'd have

1197
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 1: like nine guys or something like under contract. Moving forward.

1198
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: You'd be adding the Pelicans draft pick too, which is

1199
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: hopefully high. So there's some wiggle room, and it feels

1200
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: like a bit of a win win you if your

1201
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: whole point is just to get off of the Tray.

1202
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 4: Young deal, yeah, yeah, and to geek it out just

1203
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 4: a tad bit more. As mark Stein reported, he doesn't

1204
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 4: know whether or not the Hawks would have to attach

1205
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 4: a pick to get off of Trey Young. And I

1206
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 4: know everyone thinks so there'll be a pick given up

1207
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 4: for Trey Young. But I don't think he just reports

1208
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 4: that just because and then he did change his language.

1209
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's his Trey Young's agents getting

1210
00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 4: in on it to convince mark Stein to say, Okay, listen,

1211
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 4: we don't know whether or not they're gonna have to

1212
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 4: give up a pick or whether they'll get a pick.

1213
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 4: Can you include that? And that's essentially what happened. I

1214
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 4: don't know if the agent's got involved, but that was

1215
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 4: the wordage going up in that article.

1216
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: Well, let's okay, they are not they're not stupid enough

1217
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 1: to trade. Of course, the Pelicans pick that they're holding

1218
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 1: onto that because that is like unbelievable found money and

1219
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: like they could hit an all time generational player, So

1220
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: they're keeping that. The Atlanta is Maybe maybe if they

1221
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: are swapping picks, they do have the Calves pick I

1222
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: believe from the DeAndre Hunter of it all, so Calves

1223
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: have not been amazing, but that's going to be like

1224
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: somewhere probably between twenty and thirty, like eighteen. Yeah, okay,

1225
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: so maybe to get maybe they slap the OKAYC pick

1226
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: for that pick that the Wizards are allowed to then

1227
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: jump up a little bit. Is my point here, because hey,

1228
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: we're taking on Trey Young. I still think that's insanity.

1229
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: Like treyng is still a really good player. To have

1230
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: to attach a pick is wild to me. But maybe

1231
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: a swap of some sort.

1232
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what the Pelicans did with the Hawks last year.

1233
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 4: They bumped themselves up to get Derek Queen. Now, yeah,

1234
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 4: the Cavs pick will be a worse pick than what

1235
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 4: that that Pelicans pick was. But this this supposed to

1236
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 4: be a deep draft.

1237
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. So our next one here, it's a

1238
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: similar to the Wizards Hawks deal, but a third team

1239
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: is in the mix. It's a three teamer and it

1240
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: is really the Hawks replacing Trey Young with Anthony Davis.

1241
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: This is how they get here. Wizards get Tray Young,

1242
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: that part remains the same. Hawks receive Anthony Davis and

1243
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: Dwight Powell. The Mavericks get CJ. McCollum and that expiring

1244
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: deal Zachary Resachet, Corey Kispert, and then a twenty thirty

1245
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: two unprotected Atlanta first round pick. I do not like

1246
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: seeing that year on a graphic two grade. That trade

1247
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: again similar to the Wizards Hawks deal, but the MAVs

1248
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: get folded in with Ad going to Atlanta. Your thoughts great,

1249
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: I'm a B minus.

1250
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 3: You know, I.

1251
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 4: Dabbled between C plus me B minus. I'm starting to

1252
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 4: come around on it because this is what the Hawks

1253
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 4: give up. Essentially, they give up on Zachary Resache, second

1254
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 4: year player, he's twenty. He wants to play more. It

1255
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 4: seems like I think he wants more of a role.

1256
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 4: And maybe it happens somewhere else. It just hasn't happened

1257
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 4: so far in Atlanta's just you know, he's super, super young.

1258
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 4: You could see him getting mad on the sideline because

1259
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 4: I think he demands more of himself and more of

1260
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 4: that situation. So are the Hawks giving up on him

1261
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 4: too early?

1262
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 2: Maybe?

1263
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 4: And then this first round pick I'm protected in twenty

1264
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 4: thirty two. That's essentially what they're giving up along with

1265
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 4: Trey for two and a half seasons of AD because

1266
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 4: AD is under contract for two and a half seasons

1267
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 4: essentially this plus two more. I mean he does play

1268
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 4: half a season. Frankly, that's what's what's going on with

1269
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 4: Anthony Davis unfortunately, but it is an upgrade. Obviously, they

1270
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 4: need a big and who plays games. I mean Chris,

1271
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 4: he's replacing Kristaps Porzingis. It feels like he plays more

1272
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 4: games than Kristaps Porzingis. But are they crippling themselves a

1273
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 4: little bit in that before this season they wanted they're

1274
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 4: taking the long route here. They're saying, we're not giving

1275
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 4: Tree Young an extension and we're slow playing it a

1276
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 4: little bit. Now does this hurt them?

1277
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1278
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 4: I mean, it's one of those things with Anthony Davis.

1279
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 4: Is he going to play? But what are you getting

1280
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 4: for Tree Young? And in this scenario, it's the best

1281
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 4: thing that they could get. It's literally the best player

1282
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 4: on a basketball floor when he plays basketball that they

1283
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 4: could get.

1284
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 3: I agree, Ad would be the best player that the

1285
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 3: Hawks could get back for Trey Young. When you compare

1286
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 3: this to the previous trade, it's like, do you value

1287
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 3: the flexibility that the wizard sending the expiring contract of CJ.

1288
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 3: McCollum brings you, or do you want Anthony Davis. Anthony

1289
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 3: Davis going to be thirty three this year, he'll be

1290
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 3: thirty nine in twenty thirty two. That means he'll be

1291
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 3: retired in twenty thirty two. You should not.

1292
00:59:58,960 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: Trade that pick.

1293
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 3: However, look at the on off swings for just Kristaps

1294
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 3: Porzingis when he plays, the Hawks are plus seven points

1295
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 3: per one hundred possessions, eighties better than Kristaps Porzingis, So

1296
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 3: he would certainly elevate the team. He would give them defense,

1297
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 3: he would give them offense as well. You can see

1298
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 3: the argument for the Hawks there if they want to

1299
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 3: stay competitive rather than this being kind of a glorified

1300
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 3: salary dump. So I think for this trade, i'm a task.

1301
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is a B minus. Wizards say yes

1302
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 3: for sure, because they're giving up even less in this

1303
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 3: one to still get Trey Young. I think the MAVs

1304
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 3: would probably say yes to this.

1305
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: I think it's not that bad.

1306
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, like you gets CJ to run around with

1307
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 3: Cooper Flag for the end of this year. Have a

1308
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 3: professional point guard out there. He can play alongside Kyrie Irving.

1309
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 3: I would think they would be flammable on defense that

1310
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 3: back court, but at least they'd be cool to watch

1311
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 3: on the offensive side. Take a chance on Resa Che

1312
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 3: disappointing season, I think, but he fits nice with Cooper Flag.

1313
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 3: Doesn't need the ball that much, just stands around, shoots threes,

1314
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 3: and they got good size between the two of them

1315
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 3: and the Hawks. For me, this would be a no.

1316
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 3: But I can see why they would do it. You know,

1317
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 3: they're four games out of the sixth seed right now.

1318
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 3: You get Anthony Davis, you can talk yourself into being

1319
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 3: a top sixteen in the Eastern Conference. I'm not saying

1320
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 3: anything better than the top six, but that would still

1321
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 3: be an improvement.

1322
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, he would transform the Hawks defense. I'm with

1323
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: you on that. And tell me the last time the

1324
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: Hawks had a good defense, an above average defense.

1325
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 3: It's got to be Horford millsap days.

1326
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: I think it's like Dwight Howard Cephaloshia Days twenty sixteen, seventeen.

1327
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: That was the last time they had a good defense,

1328
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: above average defense, not even good, that was good. That

1329
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: was a good Hawks team we were here, but this

1330
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: is a decade ago.

1331
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 4: Basically, the twenty one year when they went to the

1332
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 4: conference finals was like a twentieth ranked defense.

1333
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 3: I guess yeah.

1334
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 2: With Capella, and let's.

1335
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: Be honest, anytime Trey Young's been on the team, they've

1336
01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: had a bad defense. Yeah overall. I mean he's liability,

1337
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 1: of course, but yeah, that's what they would be doing

1338
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 1: here and with you guys. I think Sam asked the

1339
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: question though, would you rather bet on a thirty three

1340
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: year old Anthony Davis staying healthy being paid a decent

1341
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: amount to help your defense, or do you like your

1342
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: alternative in free agency, which is like Mitchell Robinson, maybe

1343
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: Hartenstein maybe you know, like those quality players. That's what

1344
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: you're debating, right, It's whether or not they're like, hey,

1345
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: there's an opening here, we want to get into playoff games,

1346
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: make gate money, be somewhat competitive. I think you get

1347
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: a D or basically swapped Trey Young for ad Yeah.

1348
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: I think you're there. I think you're you should be,

1349
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: and I think he would help out tremendously defensively. Like

1350
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: they are small, they get cooked on that end. There's

1351
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: no paint presence, like I like a conglu but he's

1352
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: it's not. You can't completely hold down the Ford on

1353
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: a defense eighty ken So okay, you guys would be

1354
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: he said you didn't mind it minus.

1355
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, can doubt here.

1356
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 4: The Hawks are definitely looking for a center, There's no doubt.

1357
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 3: You know.

1358
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 4: I brought up the Nick Claxton possibility from the Brooklyn Nets,

1359
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 4: like that type of that level of player, not more affordable, yeah,

1360
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 4: very very affordable. Whether the Nets would be willing to

1361
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 4: give him up, I don't know. He's not in rumors.

1362
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 4: He's just in my rumors that the Nets would be

1363
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 4: willing to give up Nick Clason.

1364
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to this one. The Raptors upgrading

1365
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: their point guard. Raptors get Trey Young and Luke Canard.

1366
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,479
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, we get we the nerd.

1367
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:35,439
Speaker 2: We the nerd.

1368
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: The Hawks get em manual quickly, RJ Barrett and two

1369
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: future first round picks. So this is again Raps upgrading

1370
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: if you want to call it that quickly for Young,

1371
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: but it would cost them r J. Barrett cost them

1372
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: in theory draft capital. Again, this is we're not coming

1373
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: up with this. I think this one is from Sam

1374
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: Vessini as well, and I think he even thought this

1375
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: one's unlikely. So who wants to start with this one?

1376
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: You're a Raptors fanily, do you.

1377
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 2: Think I'm willing to grade this above an F A

1378
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 2: D minus it?

1379
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, And again Sam, in his credit, was like, this

1380
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: is not likely.

1381
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 2: Just does not feel right at all. That's it.

1382
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 4: That's not enough for the Raptors. I mean, what they

1383
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 4: would be doing here, it's not right. It's not enough.

1384
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 4: They will they want you think it's not enough for

1385
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 4: the Hawks side?

1386
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it's a no for both.

1387
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 3: But I I thought Atlanta would say no first, but

1388
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 3: I don't know two.

1389
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 4: First, round picks plus y plus a point guard who

1390
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 4: plays basketball plus R. J.

1391
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 2: Barrett.

1392
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 3: I mean, gotta pay Barrett, get it man quickly. He's

1393
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 3: got a long contrary he does. He does.

1394
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 1: That's why I think two future first round picks are

1395
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 1: in here. One is hypothetically for Trey and the other

1396
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: is to actually get off the quickly. Yes, long term money.

1397
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: That's how I think you get to where Sam gets

1398
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 1: to two. That's the thinking.

1399
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't say I can't see the Raptors offense,

1400
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 4: just saying it's working really well right now, Let's give

1401
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 4: up two parts of it for Trey and see what happens.

1402
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 2: I mean, that's it sounds.

1403
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: And hey, we're actually you know, playing defense here. We're

1404
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: getting back to that. Oh, let's bring in the worst

1405
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: defensive place.

1406
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the guy and man quickly, who's finally playing

1407
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 4: for them since they made that trade. This has been

1408
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 4: the best run that he's had. He's playing consistently since

1409
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 4: the beginning of the season. Frankly, you know, whether or

1410
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 4: not he's miss games doesn't matter. When they got him,

1411
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,959
Speaker 4: he wasn't and so they signed him to a big deal.

1412
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 4: He's playing basketball. It would be it would be hard.

1413
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 4: It would be a hard trade hard.

1414
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, with Trey Young's trade value at the level it

1415
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: is right now, a fair question is like, is Quickly

1416
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: better than Trey Young this year?

1417
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 2: Right?

1418
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: Maybe? Or at least not pale? Yeah? Yeah? And he

1419
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: makes uh well what is what does Quickly make? Thirty plus?

1420
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: Now he does have a flat contract. I think I

1421
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: don't think it increases at all. That's good. Cap goes up,

1422
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: you know, it is nice. It's not obviously what Trey

1423
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: is going to be commanding. But yeah, okay, we're saying no,

1424
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: you you throw a d on it. Tray is like

1425
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 1: both teams saying no. All right, Bucks, the Bucks try

1426
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: and keep you on as happy. Round four, Round four,

1427
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: around three or four, at least Bucks get Trey Young.

1428
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 1: Hawks receive Kyle Kuzma, Bobby Portis, Gary Harris in a

1429
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: twenty thirty one first round pick. That pick that tas

1430
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: Millis keeps talking about, Hey man, you honest ain't going anywhere.

1431
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 1: They're gonna use it. Get more talent? How do you

1432
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 1: grade it?

1433
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 4: The milwacky bocks do not have a lot to trade.

1434
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 4: They got to give up this pick if they want

1435
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 4: to give up something to make it Yannis as happy

1436
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 4: as possible, But I grade this as C minus. What's

1437
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 4: coming back here is is not what they need. They

1438
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 4: need more in return. I think they need a two

1439
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 4: way wing. Even their old guy Doc Rivers can't play

1440
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 4: Tayshaun Prince anymore, so he might help. Yeah, he would help,

1441
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 4: they need anything. I think what would be a better

1442
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 4: trade for them is going to get Jeremy Grant or

1443
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 4: a potential Malik Monk. I know he's not the wing

1444
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 4: that they need, but somebody like that. I don't think

1445
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 4: this is the right move for them.

1446
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: They would have no wings if they traded Kuzma, Bobby, Yeah,

1447
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: nobody here Wi next to nobody. Yeah, but they get

1448
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: Tray Young TK and maybe that's enough to keep you

1449
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: on as happy.

1450
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 3: Bucks say yes, please for this is the package. Yes,

1451
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 3: Hawks say no, I do believe.

1452
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: Okay, Hawks there like we can do better than a

1453
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 1: Kyle Bobby and Gary.

1454
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but man, I was I'm deep in the

1455
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 3: line up data. This is how good Yanis Onto, takunpo Is, Kuzma,

1456
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,959
Speaker 3: Portis and Yannis play together. They're plus twenty one points

1457
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 3: per one hundred possessions only eighty one minutes. Okay, Ganis

1458
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 3: has been banged up. You take Janis off, they're minus

1459
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 3: thirteen points per one hundred possessions. That's a thirty four

1460
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 3: point swing just from Janis. If you go Kuzma without

1461
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 3: the other two guys minus seven, Portis without the other

1462
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 3: two guys minus two, Jannis without the other two guys

1463
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 3: plus eight. Giannis is awesome.

1464
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 4: It is, yeah, And that's why I don't think they

1465
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 4: give up this much, even for Tree Young, that's not much. Well,

1466
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 4: they need these guys, they need role players, they need players.

1467
01:07:58,720 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 4: They don't have anything.

1468
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: Bring back ToJ.

1469
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 3: PJ. Tucker, TJ.

1470
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 2: Pucker WELLJ.

1471
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 3: TJ. Pucker and Tayshaun Prince can play the wing for

1472
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 3: these guys.

1473
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 4: I know Bobby is old, but Kuzma is playing anybody

1474
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 4: out there. Defensively, he is out there. They put him

1475
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,759
Speaker 4: on anyone, they say, guard, a point guard, guard anyone.

1476
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 4: You put Trey Young out there instead, it's going.

1477
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 2: To be a problem.

1478
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 4: And then he takes the ball out of Ryan Rollins' hands.

1479
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 2: I don't like the whole chemistry thing. Again. They need parts.

1480
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 4: They're just so shallow and so to give up bodies

1481
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 4: for a tray, I don't think it really makes sense. Again,

1482
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 4: I think a big wing is the number one priority.

1483
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 4: And I didn't mention Zach Lvieane's name because I don't

1484
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 4: think it's Sack. I think it's a two way guy.

1485
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 4: And again, does RJ.

1486
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: Barrett fit that mold to you as a two way

1487
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 1: guy and not as much he's a score because I

1488
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,639
Speaker 1: ask you that because an alternate trade package, an alternate

1489
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: trade package from CBS involve the previous two hypothetical deals. Basically,

1490
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: it's a three teamer that sees the Hawks get quickly

1491
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 1: a Bajie Garrett temple so not a lot. Raptors get

1492
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: Trey Kuzma and then some sort of like first round

1493
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 1: swap and the Bucks get RJ.

1494
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 3: Barrett.

1495
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: That was from Sam Quinn, so he's like melding the

1496
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: two together. Trey goes to the Raps, Bucks get RJ.

1497
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 1: Barrett and the Hawks. Hawks get nothing to me, but

1498
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 1: they get off of trade.

1499
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, I think one RJ. Barrett would help

1500
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 4: their offense. There's no doubt he Yannis needs a talented

1501
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 4: guy beside him. RJ is super talented. You see what

1502
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 4: he's done for the Raptors offense. Now again, they can't

1503
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 4: guard anybody. So I think Kuzma has helped in that regard.

1504
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:43,679
Speaker 4: At least they know who they're thrown out there. And RJ,

1505
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 4: you know, he doesn't have the height that Kuzma has.

1506
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just that's that's the unfortunate part. At

1507
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 4: least Kuzmi. You're thrown out a body. So that's that's

1508
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 4: the reluctant part. You wanted a real two way guy

1509
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 4: that could do both. It's asking a lot. The Bucks

1510
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 4: don't have a lot of options here.

1511
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 1: I got one more for you now. I don't have

1512
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 1: a Nets trade. I don't have a Clippers trade. I've

1513
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 1: seen those out there a few other teams. But I

1514
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:05,719
Speaker 1: wanted to give you this one because anytime a point

1515
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 1: guard's name comes up, the Wolves do get mentioned they

1516
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: can maybe use a point guard. So this one from

1517
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 1: Sam Vessini at the Athletic Wolves get Trey Young, Hawks

1518
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: get Nasried Dante DiVincenzo, Mike Conley, and my guy Leonard Millard.

1519
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 1: A plus for the Hawks if they get Leonard Miller.

1520
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm telling you he did it a dunk last night.

1521
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: He did do it dunk. What do you think TK like,

1522
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: It's tough to find a trade for the Wolves because

1523
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 1: they it's there. They're an apron team exactly, A right, Well, anyway,

1524
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts.

1525
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 3: I think the Hawks say no to this, and the

1526
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 3: Timberwolves say no, but call us in the off season. Okay,

1527
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 3: this is just too many players, literal number of players

1528
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 3: to give up for the timber Wolves. It would leave

1529
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,839
Speaker 3: them with a rookie as their backup center. It would

1530
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 3: get rid of their locker room leader and Mike Conley.

1531
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 3: It would make their shooting worse, losing Reed and de Vincenzo, Like,

1532
01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:00,679
Speaker 3: these are guys that are massive players for them, who

1533
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 3: just chuck up threes and that's kind of important around

1534
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 3: Gobert and Randall, not to mention Anthony Edwards, who shoots

1535
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 3: a ton of threes as well. I can see it

1536
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 3: making sense why you would want to put Trey next

1537
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 3: to Anthony Edwards, especially considering Gobert could probably cover we'd

1538
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 3: really test that defensive exactly right, exactly, he could lock

1539
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 3: in defensive player of the Year. So I think this

1540
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,520
Speaker 3: one was probably a no for both, But the Timberwolves

1541
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 3: might be interested after the season when they can do

1542
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 3: a move and then like find reserves as well.

1543
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 2: Ok.

1544
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's given up too much of who they are.

1545
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 4: I mean, really, Trey broke it down really well, your bigs,

1546
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 4: your heart in terms of your backcourt, which you would

1547
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:50,799
Speaker 4: be just experimenting with here mid season Trey and Ant. Yes,

1548
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 4: in theory, I started thinking about it. It could work,

1549
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 4: but it is a lot of who they are right

1550
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 4: here right now. They've made that risk last year before

1551
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 4: training camp with car Anthony Town's and it worked, but

1552
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 4: that was before training camp.

1553
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,759
Speaker 2: This is this is real. Yeah, we'll see if it works.

1554
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 4: I'm right here right now at the middle of the

1555
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 4: season when they're they are cooking. They yes, they're you know,

1556
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 4: sixth in the Western Conference standings, but it would be hard,

1557
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:18,679
Speaker 4: I think, to just yank the rug out of underneath

1558
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 4: them at this point.

1559
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 2: That doesn't make sense to.

1560
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 1: Me, very unlikely. I'm with you that the Wolves get

1561
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: in the trade young business, at least before the deadline,

1562
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: which is in a month. All right, that's five trades.

1563
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 1: Let's hear from you guys on YouTube. Let us know

1564
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 1: in the comments some of your favorite hypothetical trade on

1565
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:34,680
Speaker 1: trades or your favorite from this bunch, the one that

1566
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 1: makes the most sense. Shout out to everybody working that

1567
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: trade machine at Things Smoking right now?

1568
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 3: No doubt you got a favorite trade machine.

1569
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 1: Uh yeah.

1570
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 3: The big three of trade machines, of course are ESPN,

1571
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 3: I hate that, Fanspo and spow Track.

1572
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 1: I like Spo Track.

1573
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 3: Yeah it's the best one.

1574
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

1575
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: I don't even use the ESPN one anymore. I can't

1576
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 1: even trust it. I'm like, I don't know.

1577
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 3: It's the George Mike and a trade machines it is.

1578
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: It's like, hasn't been updated service?

1579
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, exactly, Yeah, okay.

1580
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly, Yeah, yeah, I mean it's still around.

1581
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 2: It's still around.

1582
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 4: I go to it as my second one, though it's

1583
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 4: not you're not a fan, smoke guy, but they pad

1584
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 4: last year, had last year.

1585
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 3: Let's make that.

1586
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 1: That's a good short, right the trade kind of funny

1587
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: Web of the Night. I always have to turn to

1588
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 1: my guy t K now to find out whether or

1589
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:33,480
Speaker 1: not it's sponsored. Nope, not today, unsullied from sponsorship since yesterday.

1590
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: Apologies to Trey Murphy the third. He did have a

1591
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 1: good game.

1592
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 2: Yah.

1593
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 1: Maybe he was trying to showcase himself for the trade deadline.

1594
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: I think we've just said tray too many times in

1595
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 1: the show too. M with Trey Kirby. Now Trey Young

1596
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 1: snucking a little trade Johnson there, so Trey Murphy, I'm sorry.

1597
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 1: We gotta give it to the old guy, Lebron James

1598
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 1: Well boy of the night.

1599
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 3: Come on, man, come oldest player ever get a low boy.

1600
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 1: Uh. The old man scored thirty points, shot ten to

1601
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,759
Speaker 1: nineteen from the field, three of five from deep, seven

1602
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 1: to seven at the line, eight rebounds, eight assists, game high,

1603
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: two steals, and he had one block as well, maybe

1604
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: a turnover too. It was a positive on the court

1605
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 1: last night and they got the win. So come on, man,

1606
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: it's forty one years old. They're gonna you're gonna miss Hey,

1607
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 1: You're gonna miss Lebron when he's gone.

1608
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 2: I've heard that. That's true.

1609
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's one hundred percentury. You know it's also

1610
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 4: true since I like plugging things like our NBA insider

1611
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 4: Michael Scotto coming in tomorrow, we'll be doing that live

1612
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 4: watch for All Star weekend. Also we'll be selling a

1613
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 4: Woe Boy tomorrow. That's guaranteed. Oh it's planned, I mean

1614
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 4: it's and then boom invoiced, Yeah, we've had a conversation.

1615
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 4: It's gonna happen tomorrow and then boom, today's comes in.

1616
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 4: Just as I say that, just as I.

1617
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 1: Say that it's too late, it's too late. Well, like

1618
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: this person, we can push them coal down the line. Yeah,

1619
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: this is coal, all right, cool, cool, Ram, you just

1620
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 1: missed it, he says, I'll take it.

1621
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 3: He was giving away little boys.

1622
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 4: I'll take a little boy then, for how much? Ten

1623
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 4: Canadian dollars?

1624
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:19,599
Speaker 1: This is call you, son of a bitch. All right,

1625
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: we'll call here here in line here, we'll give you

1626
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 1: one doorry. I love what this is gonna come.

1627
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 3: I'll take it.

1628
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:30,599
Speaker 1: Pickum tasks. We have a million games on tonight, Chunky,

1629
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 1: so many games on.

1630
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1631
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,879
Speaker 4: I thought an interesting one was Toronto going into Charlotte

1632
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 4: favored by two and a half points. They just had

1633
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 4: a game a few weeks ago Charlotte beat them by

1634
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,799
Speaker 4: twenty five points.

1635
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 2: This is the fourth game of the season here, yep.

1636
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 4: And Toronto's really good against Eastern Conference teams nineteen and

1637
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:55,440
Speaker 4: ten that's great.

1638
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 1: Not that great against the Hornets No.

1639
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 2: One and two, but one was overtime too.

1640
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say, Trey, your stat yesterday of the

1641
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 4: lamellow Brandon Miller and uh Conker Nipple that they're they're

1642
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 4: great together.

1643
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 2: So they are good together. So I guess that's why

1644
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 2: you guys took them.

1645
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 4: You guys are both taking the Charlotte Hornets to win

1646
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 4: at home or lose by two or yes, I guess

1647
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 4: raps only taken by myself to win three by three

1648
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 4: or more.

1649
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 1: You know you tried to get me. You tried to

1650
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 1: get me. I know what you're doing.

1651
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 2: You think you think I did?

1652
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: This is gonna do the Raptors look at that small line,

1653
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 1: and you might be right, but they just don't play

1654
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 1: the Hornets. Well, man, it's gone back for a while now.

1655
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. Back to the Jeremy

1656
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 1: Lamb days of it all, buzzer beaters left and right

1657
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 1: against them.

1658
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, hold on, I got to understand the thinking. Well,

1659
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 4: I mean I was trying to get you. I put

1660
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 4: I put that.

1661
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 1: I just mean, I mean, is going to pick Raptors like.

1662
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 2: But I picked Toronto immediately?

1663
01:16:55,640 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, he can go either way. Yeah, I think

1664
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 3: I thought you would go Hornet.

1665
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 1: Everybody is everybody out there right now is going, what's

1666
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:07,719
Speaker 1: wrong with this guy? That box really had an impact

1667
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: on him?

1668
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 3: This guy's going box crazy.

1669
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the Raptors will have a little revenge

1670
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 4: for losing by twenty five.

1671
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 1: I mean that would be nice.

1672
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 4: That was horrendous. But the Hornet should be playing all

1673
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 4: three of their guys.

1674
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 2: What's the record? Sorry, with the three of them playing.

1675
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:25,640
Speaker 1: Nine and five. Brandon Miller is a game time though.

1676
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 1: I think it was a question.

1677
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, bad shoulders, shoulders getting shoulders.

1678
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 1: Okay, so Hornets plus two and a half they are

1679
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: home dogs. Raps got on by three. And you know

1680
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 1: this is early here in the month of January, so

1681
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 1: a big game here to maybe separate someone less whoa

1682
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:45,760
Speaker 1: JD wants to wrap this up, get the hell out

1683
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: of here.

1684
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I understand, you're right.

1685
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 1: But this is a long show.

1686
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 3: Jesus.

1687
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 1: I love talking about trades. Yeah, people usually like us

1688
01:17:55,360 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 1: talking about trades too. People love trades absolutely mint So

1689
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 1: i'd be nice if we got an emergency podcast or

1690
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 1: two as we get up to the trade deadline. Don't

1691
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 1: do it all at once either, space it out a

1692
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 1: little bit. Give us a Trey Young trade, Maybe give

1693
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 1: us an Anthony Davis trade. You know, we'll do an

1694
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 1: emergency podcast.

1695
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 3: Okay, we got, we got JK coming up soon, Jonathan.

1696
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, you got available to be traded in

1697
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 3: eight days. Yeah, yeah, be our first trade of the year,

1698
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,719
Speaker 3: or first trade of the deadline at least.

1699
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 2: M hmm.

1700
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 3: I don't remember what kicked it off last year.

1701
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:30,480
Speaker 2: The Luca trade was early.

1702
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, game before that. I don't know all it takes.

1703
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 1: We need one right because on the dom start following. Yeah,

1704
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,759
Speaker 1: all right, Well, we're gonna be here tomorrow with NBA

1705
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 1: insider Michael Scotto. He's gonna join tomorrow's show. Talk about

1706
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 1: a lot of slop, Let's be honest, a lot of

1707
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: these trade.

1708
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:51,600
Speaker 4: Rumors, kaminga for sure, Trey Murphy for sure, right, yeah,

1709
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 4: Trey Young for sure.

1710
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 2: Okay, and we're leading with Yannis because for sure. Yeah, yeah,

1711
01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 2: I think that's plight.

1712
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: Well, Michael Scotto joined us on No Dunks tomorrow. Can't

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Speaker 1: wait for that. Hope to see you at ten am

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Speaker 1: Eastern live on YouTube if not obviously up on YouTube

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Speaker 1: later for you and you podcast listeners up on Apple, Spotify,

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Speaker 1: wherever you download and listen to No Dunks that's tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Until then, clebber bro, you heard it here first.

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Speaker 3: Have a great time, turn up. Love you guys, awesome.

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01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. And remember that Luka Dancis trade happened.

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01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 2: What day do you think it happened?

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01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 3: February second?

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01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,679
Speaker 2: That's correct. Wow, that's not super early.

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01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 4: When you said, yeah, it was before the deadline, I

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01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 4: thought it was before the deadline.

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Speaker 2: That's what a.

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Speaker 3: Weekend before, right, Like it was like, was it was

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Speaker 3: that Saturday?

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01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 2: It was Friday? Or overnight's overnight Saturday?

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01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 4: Right, it's leading. Yeah, that sounds yeah. I think we've

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01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 4: got it here. Sunday, February second, twenty twenty five, according

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01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 4: to Google. You know, this could be a gemini who knows,

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01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 4: but that's what it says. So was filed with the

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01:19:55,520 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 4: NBA Eastern time, so that's where they file it after midnight.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I think it could have been filed

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Speaker 4: before pt specific time. Okay, cool start, cool, cool, cool star.

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Speaker 1: We'll make sure to ask Michael Scott him about that.

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01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 1: The filing of these What are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Okay, what were you doing when Luca dont just got traded?

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01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 1: So just before we go, you're saying, we really didn't

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01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 1: do an emergency podcast then because it happened during the night.

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01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 1: We just did it the next morning. I had oh

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Speaker 1: he ever shed. Yes, yeah, good reminder.

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01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: Historic night man Stork night in the NBA. We got

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Speaker 3: a new all time vote later when Luca Dono is

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01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 3: going to lead all start voting for a decade. Now, dude,

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01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 3: the leading scorer in the NBA playing for the Los

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01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 3: Angeles Lakers. Yeah. Probably it was one of the biggest

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Speaker 3: trades we'll ever see.

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Speaker 1: It was, But it was a Saturday night or Sunday night.

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Speaker 3: Well, it was Saturday night, like Saturday night if you

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01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 3: didn't go to bed, it was Saturday.

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01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 1: Yes, it was that late. Yeah, it was that late.

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01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, that was in my jammis a new

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01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 3: jammys in my jammis?

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01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:55,799
Speaker 1: What were you watching?

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01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 3: Now, that's a mystery. I don't know.

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01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 1: Yah. I guess maybe you're reading a book.

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01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no no no. I hadn't

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Speaker 3: tucked into a book late Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: But we did do a podcast later on the Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Oh we did. Yeah, okay, okay, okay, I just asking.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I was still an am two ams two am podcast.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I see tomorrow brace day