WEBVTT - WNBA Wake Up Call

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, come on, come on.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode of the Heat Check, given that we are

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<v Speaker 2>not talking anymore about the Lakers dumpster fire, because that

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<v Speaker 2>could be literally its own podcast. Given how much news

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<v Speaker 2>is coming out and there's a lot. Lebron James is

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<v Speaker 2>only answering questions from women at this time, which is

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<v Speaker 2>hilarious to me. Uh, he still is going to remain

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<v Speaker 2>hopeful no matter what happens, as long as he said,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, unless he's stomped out into the grave and

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<v Speaker 2>his head is chopped off like he was some monster.

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<v Speaker 2>I said. We were going to talk about it, so

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<v Speaker 2>we're not going to talk about it, but just go

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<v Speaker 2>find it because it's absolutely bonkers what's going on. Given

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<v Speaker 2>that we're not doing that for consecutive episodes, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to delve into something that's a little less sexy, but

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<v Speaker 2>definitely with just as much drama. There is some recent

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<v Speaker 2>news in women's hoops that is going to blow your

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<v Speaker 2>fucking mind. Why the system of sports pretty much is broken.

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<v Speaker 2>What's happening to the w NBA players currently playing in

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<v Speaker 2>Russia and Ukraine. Fascinating stuff and more so, go ahead,

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<v Speaker 2>bro drop.

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<v Speaker 1>That b.

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<v Speaker 2>So the trade deadline's over all Star Game in the

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<v Speaker 2>rear view mirror playoffs still month and change away. It's

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<v Speaker 2>Paul's time. There's not a lot of news. We've got

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<v Speaker 2>buyouts obviously that are sort of rumbling, but we kind

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<v Speaker 2>of need to take a breather. I'm a little tired

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<v Speaker 2>of dissecting some of these dumpster fire franchises with every

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<v Speaker 2>little minute piece of news that comes away. Apparently Rob

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<v Speaker 2>Polenka botched a bunch of conversations where he wasn't calling

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<v Speaker 2>people back. I mean, the drama continues, but yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't answering phone calls. Just like, look it up.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to talk about it. I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>he used to look it up. I don't he's so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I just like, there's so much raw material in fodder

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<v Speaker 2>for me. It's like red meat and a hungry rottweiler.

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<v Speaker 2>I am the rottweiler in this situation. Rob Polinka is

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<v Speaker 2>the red meat and the Lakers and just how much

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<v Speaker 2>joy I get from shit talking them. But like it's

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<v Speaker 2>boring to you, even though if it might be hilarious

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<v Speaker 2>to me. So let's break down some hoops. But today

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna be talking about one of my favorite things

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<v Speaker 2>in the world WNBA. So there's multiple WNBA stories going

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<v Speaker 2>on right now. Both of those are actually global news stories.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll start with what's happening right now in the Ukraine

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<v Speaker 2>and how that has the ability to affect how the

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<v Speaker 2>women's game operates moving forward. As everybody knows, unless you've

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<v Speaker 2>been living under a rock kind of like I've tried

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<v Speaker 2>to avoid it. If you need to tell me if

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<v Speaker 2>I need some some news, I'm just gonna make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that Twitter tells me or someone on the street tells me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna go out here and be looking for

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<v Speaker 2>for Sea. Hey, did you know I hear somebody on

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<v Speaker 2>a train I'm listening on Amtrak. I got I got

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Coons behind me on the Amtrak talking about Mitch McConnell.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can't escape it, right. So, unless you're

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in your crib playing two K you know that

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<v Speaker 2>Russia invaded Ukraine a week ago and the economic fallout

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<v Speaker 2>has been immense. There's been immediate economic sanctions against the

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<v Speaker 2>Russian state. They've literally tanked the ruble. We've got the

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<v Speaker 2>owner of Chelsea pretty much being forced to sell the

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<v Speaker 2>team because he's broke. Now all of these Russian oligarchs

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<v Speaker 2>are losing their wealth. Uh, it is just abs slutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Bonker's Russian stock Market, which is an aggregate of the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest companies in Russia, lost eighty percent of its total

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<v Speaker 2>value in the first two days alone. Let's just say

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<v Speaker 2>things are not going the way that the head of

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<v Speaker 2>Russia named Vladimir Putin has anticipated them going. We'll just

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<v Speaker 2>say things have not been going according to plan. Major

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<v Speaker 2>foreign investors have pulled out of Russia. The country has

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<v Speaker 2>been banned from international banking platforms. If you want to

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<v Speaker 2>wire money from country to country and you're Russian, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a know. Some people have lost all access to Pornhub

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<v Speaker 2>if you're in Russia, which is a huge loss. Russian

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<v Speaker 2>oligarchs who have built multi billion dollar portfolios stand to

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<v Speaker 2>lose everything. So the lot is a lot has happening,

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<v Speaker 2>Lots popping around the world here. How does this affect

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<v Speaker 2>women's hoops? Though? Let me explain, for years there has

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<v Speaker 2>been an unspoken right, This is a fascinating shit unspoken

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<v Speaker 2>rivalry between various Russian oligo billionaires and that has spilled

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<v Speaker 2>over onto the court. In this case, Russian women's basketball

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<v Speaker 2>Premier League has been the biggest payday by far for

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<v Speaker 2>women's basketball players for many, many years. Folks like Brittany Griner,

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<v Speaker 2>Breonna Stewart, Diana Tarasi have played for Russian teams for

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<v Speaker 2>seven figure or more contracts, which, to be frank is

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more money that they make in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>They have made well over five times the maximum salary

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<v Speaker 2>allowed in the WNBA in Russia. It's good business to

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<v Speaker 2>hoop in Russia if you're a woman. And it's basically

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<v Speaker 2>just we'll just say what it is, a dick measuring

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<v Speaker 2>contest by really rich guys in Russia that decided that

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<v Speaker 2>the women's basketball Russian Women's Basketball Premier League. Hard to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a little breeding ground for how they end

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<v Speaker 2>up competing with one another. It's their little sex squid

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<v Speaker 2>games to a degree, only no one gets hurt. In

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<v Speaker 2>the past past two days, this just like another way

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<v Speaker 2>of them, you know, measuring how good they are with

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<v Speaker 2>one another. So the past two days, though women's basketball

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<v Speaker 2>players living in Ukraine and Russia struggling to get out,

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<v Speaker 2>a move made more difficult since Russia has now made

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<v Speaker 2>it very difficult to fly out, having banned flights from

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six countries and counting. Thankfully, all the American players

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<v Speaker 2>who played in the Ukraine are out. But Russia's war

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<v Speaker 2>on the Ukraine's going to change the balance of women's

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<v Speaker 2>basketball from these intermediate term, at least because who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows before the status quo returns in Russia. Who

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<v Speaker 2>knows when these women who make their livelihoods where they

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<v Speaker 2>make the majority of their dollars in the offseason will

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<v Speaker 2>be able to play there again.

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Will those same oligur so that I mentioned that lost

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<v Speaker 2>eighty percent of their wealth, Will they be so inclined

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<v Speaker 2>to have women's basketball be their dick measuring contest anymore?

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<v Speaker 2>They might just be looking to just hold on, We're

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<v Speaker 2>going home kind of vibes, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Just hang on for dear life. Who knows? Time will

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<v Speaker 2>tell I'm not optimistic. So it will put more pressure

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<v Speaker 2>on the WNBA to pay equitably. Now that overseas cash

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<v Speaker 2>cow has fallen to Putin's ill timed, ill planned moves,

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<v Speaker 2>Which brings us to the real story, the real huge story,

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<v Speaker 2>something that's been hiding in plane sight boom, airplanes, charter

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<v Speaker 2>planes to be exact, all right, So sports illustrated just

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<v Speaker 2>randomly on a Monday, just a random Monday, two days ago,

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<v Speaker 2>drop one of the biggest stories to be about the WNBA,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe ever one league handed out record fines against the

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<v Speaker 2>New York Liberty. Not only did they do that, the

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<v Speaker 2>WNBA threatened to take the Liberty's draft picks away, and

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<v Speaker 2>they even floated the idea of not only making the owner, Josi,

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<v Speaker 2>same guy who owns the Brooklyn Nets, sell the team,

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<v Speaker 2>but also folding the entire franchise together. It was fucking serious.

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<v Speaker 2>What could have been so gregious that they would fold

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<v Speaker 2>an entire WNBA team where there's not that many be

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<v Speaker 2>the first one to contract to have to just close

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<v Speaker 2>up shop go home in the biggest market in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>What could he have done? It was so terrible. Was

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<v Speaker 2>there some sort of some sort of pizza ring, underground

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<v Speaker 2>pizza ring going on in some basement? What could have

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<v Speaker 2>been happening?

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<v Speaker 1>What was it?

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me? I need no wait. Josi put his players

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<v Speaker 2>on a charter plane and took them to Sonoma for

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<v Speaker 2>wine tasting. You mean to tell me that that was

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<v Speaker 2>so egregious that he would be possibly forced to sell

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<v Speaker 2>a team and fold the entire New York Liberty as

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<v Speaker 2>a whole, All because Josi wanted to take them on

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<v Speaker 2>a team building trip, All because he wanted to treat

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<v Speaker 2>his players like male players are treated, All because he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want the New York Liberty to fly Southwest next

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<v Speaker 2>to Fred and Karen and their little baby Eli on

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<v Speaker 2>their way to some family trip in Phoenix. All because

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<v Speaker 2>of that. Mostly, when you go bird's eye view, it's

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<v Speaker 2>because Josi, the owner of the New York Liberty and

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<v Speaker 2>the owner of the and the Brooklyn Nets, same vibes,

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<v Speaker 2>same intentions, same mentality. Josi is willing to do what

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<v Speaker 2>so many other owners are not willing to do. Do

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it takes, pay whatever it takes to show your

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<v Speaker 2>players you invest in them, and you're willing to do

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it takes to compete and win, like he's doing

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<v Speaker 2>with the Brooklyn Nets. You cannot make that shit up.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what happened, Josi. Here's the backstory. Josi, billionaire owner

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<v Speaker 2>of the Brooklyn Nets but also the New York Liberty,

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to give the Liberty a team building trip to Napa,

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<v Speaker 2>so he charted a plane and sent them off the

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<v Speaker 2>Wine Country. Why you don't say star player Dede Richards,

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<v Speaker 2>rook a rookie said at the podium. Randomly, they asked

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<v Speaker 2>her what her favorite off the court moment was, and

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<v Speaker 2>she said, NAPA. NAPA was just so much fun. NAPA

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<v Speaker 2>was an opportunity for us to get together as a

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<v Speaker 2>team and just be beautiful. And you know what, I

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<v Speaker 2>love that. I was just planning for days what I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to war. Where to NAPA? Once they told us, Josi,

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<v Speaker 2>you monster, shut the league down, Shut the team down.

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<v Speaker 2>Force this man out, Get on the fuck out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>Liberty guard Jasmine Jones said that the team owners treat

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<v Speaker 2>us like they treat an MBA team. That is fucking awful.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't say, folks, what's the problem here, what's the

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<v Speaker 2>problem here? The problem is that it violated the WNBA's

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<v Speaker 2>Collective Bargaining Agreement, which constrains the benefits that you can

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<v Speaker 2>give players. Is that not the stupidest fucking thing you've

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<v Speaker 2>ever heard in your life? There should be. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just hold that thought for later. But it gets even

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<v Speaker 2>more stupid. The Liberty chartered flights for each road game

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<v Speaker 2>of the seasons second half, beginning in August, with the

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<v Speaker 2>trip to Minnesota and the WNBA was fucking pissed Cauz.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, they're using commercial flights like Southwest with Brian

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<v Speaker 2>and Karen and Eli on their trip to Phoenix. You'd

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<v Speaker 2>be on the same fight with Brian and Karen and

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<v Speaker 2>their little baby Eli, crying and screaming when you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get your mind right for your game. That's what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening now. Josi was like, this is ridiculous, especially when

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<v Speaker 2>there's issues with weather, issues with plane delays, issues with

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<v Speaker 2>everything that comes with being just a normal traveler, which

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<v Speaker 2>these people are not. Josai Apparently the punishment that WBA

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<v Speaker 2>was floating around was upseed, and Josi was like, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, I don't care. I'm gonna continue to do

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<v Speaker 2>it anyway. You can tell me not to, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to. In fact, he doubled down stating that WNBA

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<v Speaker 2>athletes should be treated like the elite players that they are,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he went public on Twitter over the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that he can't fly his own team via charter because

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<v Speaker 2>he has a lot of money. Josi, as an aside,

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<v Speaker 2>is the co founder of Ali Baba, which is the

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<v Speaker 2>Google in China. So then he does the most extraordinary thing.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, well, because they said, well, this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is a competitive balance issue. If your team can

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<v Speaker 2>fly charter and which is against the law or the

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<v Speaker 2>rules of the CBA, and all the other and all

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<v Speaker 2>of the other teams cannot, that gives you an advantage.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not correct, that's not right, and it's cost too

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<v Speaker 2>much money for these other non quote unquote non billionaire

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<v Speaker 2>team owners, so it's wrong. And then he does this,

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<v Speaker 2>He found a sponsor to fly all the WNBA teams

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<v Speaker 2>for three years for free.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what happened next? Of course, all the

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<v Speaker 2>teams were.

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<v Speaker 1>Like hell yeah, right. No, they weren't.

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<v Speaker 2>Like hell yeah, they were like, absolutely fucking not. The

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<v Speaker 2>WNBA Board of Governors turned it down. Let me say

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<v Speaker 2>that again in the back for the folks in the

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<v Speaker 2>back not quite listening. Josi, the owner of the New

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<v Speaker 2>York Liberty, was so committed to giving his players what

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<v Speaker 2>he felt they needed to be success. We'll be ready

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<v Speaker 2>and to have no travel hiccups because he's a multi

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<v Speaker 2>multi billionaire. And when he was told he couldn't do

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<v Speaker 2>that because it gave him a competitive advantage, he found

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<v Speaker 2>a way for everyone to have the same exact thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Which he thought was the bare minimum for travel for

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<v Speaker 2>an elite athlete, and the Board of Governors said no.

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<v Speaker 2>According to s Y. If you are wondering why that

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<v Speaker 2>might be, according to them, quote, here's where it gets

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<v Speaker 2>fucking crazy. Some owners worried that the players would get

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<v Speaker 2>used to it and there would be no going back.

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<v Speaker 2>Others wondered whether players might prefer a salary hike instead.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not how this works. You can't just say, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, net Jets, I would prefer that money go

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<v Speaker 2>into my pocket instead of just you giving us planes.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, pause, let's just say, let's just bring this

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<v Speaker 2>all back. They didn't want players to get used to

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<v Speaker 2>what to get used to being treated like professional athletes,

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<v Speaker 2>the elite athletes that they are. They wanted them to

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<v Speaker 2>be seen and felt as just regular joes on a

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<v Speaker 2>Southwest flight or a Delta flight flying commercial. You cannot

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<v Speaker 2>make this shit up, dog the WNB. It is absolutely bonkers.

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<v Speaker 2>And here you are, here, I am thinking that Major

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<v Speaker 2>League Baseball had a monopoly on being cheap billionaires. Here

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<v Speaker 2>I am thinking like it's just them. No, No, cheap

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<v Speaker 2>bastards are found in every corner of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>The League.

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<v Speaker 2>Originally, here's what they wanted to do to the Liberty

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<v Speaker 2>League wanted originally to slap a million dollar fine on them,

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<v Speaker 2>by far the most in the history of the league,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they dialed it down to a half a million.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep in mind, though, that this is a league that

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<v Speaker 2>has cap salaries at two hundred and twenty one thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars per year. That is the supermax for a WNBA player,

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<v Speaker 2>And you wonder, you have to wonder why Mark Davis,

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<v Speaker 2>who also co owns the Raiders, owns the Aces, why

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<v Speaker 2>he decided to pay Becking Hammond a million dollars to

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<v Speaker 2>coach Because he can. Because that's the thing that he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have any restraint over. He can, he wants to,

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<v Speaker 2>and he thinks that it's going to help his team win.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how you think like a real billionaire who wants

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<v Speaker 2>to win games. It's also the only salary that's not

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<v Speaker 2>capped in the CBA. The WNBA is in grave danger.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, you've got issues with players who are

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<v Speaker 2>not not making money in Russia any longer, they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to put pressure on the WNBA. The WNBA has been inflexible,

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<v Speaker 2>even when there's free stuff that gives them an ability

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<v Speaker 2>to grow the game, and the CBA will do nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to pay these players what they are worth. And the

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<v Speaker 2>CBA is in place until twenty twenty seven. That is

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<v Speaker 2>an eight year long CBA. They got that deal done

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty and it does not end. It does not

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<v Speaker 2>expire until twenty twenty seven. So what does that all

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<v Speaker 2>mean for me? It means I've come to the reality

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<v Speaker 2>and I've come to the conclusion that professional sports is broken.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just just up in front in the

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<v Speaker 2>last month. You've got the Olympics, you've got baseball, you've

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<v Speaker 2>got the WNBA. There are let's just break down how

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<v Speaker 2>this works. Very very very rich people get to a

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<v Speaker 2>level in their life and then the status where they

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<v Speaker 2>get in ced into a fraternity. Thirty teams in the WNBA,

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<v Speaker 2>it's way less. So you get invited into this fraternity,

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<v Speaker 2>you go through all the hoops and you have billions

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<v Speaker 2>of dollars at your disposal. You've made a killing in

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<v Speaker 2>your life and this is one of those final little

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<v Speaker 2>infinity stones in your glove where you feel like you're

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<v Speaker 2>a real person. Now, something to complete you, something to

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<v Speaker 2>go off and tell your friends about. Something where you

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<v Speaker 2>get free this and free that, box seats and charter

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<v Speaker 2>flanes and free shit, and people oohing and awing over

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<v Speaker 2>you because you own a sports team. Whatever sports team

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<v Speaker 2>it is, doesn't really even matter, and that is you

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<v Speaker 2>and those people, as my grandma would say, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>get rich by giving it away. They don't get rich

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<v Speaker 2>by giving it away. And even when they are worth

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<v Speaker 2>five six seven billion dollars, that mentality sticks, that cheap ass,

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<v Speaker 2>poor me mentality, despite them being worth literally more money

0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:06.959
<v Speaker 2>than they could ever spend no matter what they wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>Not even Phil Mickelson could spend five billion dollars, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is something that he probably would get close to

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<v Speaker 2>given his gambling issues. If you're a billionaire and you

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<v Speaker 2>own a team and you're not willing to do whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it takes to get that team to win, which is

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<v Speaker 2>the entire point of owning a team, competing and playing

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<v Speaker 2>to win. That's literally the only goal of a sports

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<v Speaker 2>team is to win, and to win at the highest level.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're not, and you're against the free market of

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<v Speaker 2>paying players the elite of the elite. As much as

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<v Speaker 2>it takes for you to collect the team that will win.

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<v Speaker 2>You're fucking cheap ass, and you don't deserve to own

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<v Speaker 2>a team winners, which apparently you are not winners, do

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it takes to win no matter what. There's billionaires

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<v Speaker 2>owning teams that would rather cheap out, cheap out on

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<v Speaker 2>everything on their team, on how it's ran, on what

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<v Speaker 2>their players make, on what their coaches make, because they

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<v Speaker 2>still make enough money anyway. That to me is a problem. That,

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<v Speaker 2>to me, is a gigantic problem that hampers the growth

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<v Speaker 2>of a game that is struggling to get new consumers,

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<v Speaker 2>get new eyeballs.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody fucking cares right now about the WNBA because they

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<v Speaker 3>won't put money into it. The product is good, These

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<v Speaker 3>girls put up buckets, the jerseys are nice. They're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to figure out a way to get more people interested

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<v Speaker 3>in the game. And then you do shit like this,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's absolutely bonkers.

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<v Speaker 2>So how do we fix the WNBA specifically, how do

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<v Speaker 2>we fix it? My man Tom Ziller? I love Tom Ziller.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got a great newsletter on Substack called Good Morning Basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>He wrote, the salary cap is the problem right now

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<v Speaker 2>for the WNBA. There's new energy and new resources available

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<v Speaker 2>in and around women's sports. Literally four or five billionaires

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<v Speaker 2>the own WNBA teams that have gotten walled off. When

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<v Speaker 2>they're trying to do whatever it takes to win, they're

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<v Speaker 2>running into like, well, I want to pay Liz Cambridge

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<v Speaker 2>X and I can't. And now Liz Cambridge Cambage, Cambage

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<v Speaker 2>has left, and this is what he says. More. There's

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<v Speaker 2>more resources available in and around women's sports, but the

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<v Speaker 2>league's conservative mindset is keeping it closed off to lots

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<v Speaker 2>of potential growth. The WNBA has been so focused on

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<v Speaker 2>mere survival for so long that it's unable to pivot

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<v Speaker 2>into an expansionary strategy. The conservatism of the league is

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<v Speaker 2>baked hard, crusted onto the WNBA, to the point where

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<v Speaker 2>money bag investors like Josi and aces Mark Davis are

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<v Speaker 2>unable to break the status quo. Fuck that, fuck that

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<v Speaker 2>He proposes the wa NBA adopt a similar structure as

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<v Speaker 2>the EPO, where rich owners spend as much as they

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<v Speaker 2>want to build a sustainable powerhouse, and then the rising

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<v Speaker 2>tide lifts all ships. Who cares if a few teams

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<v Speaker 2>in this league are killing, absolutely destroying investing in marketing

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<v Speaker 2>and branding and events and trying to make this as

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<v Speaker 2>most the most sexy team, most sexy league as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>That tide lifts every single w NBA team up with

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Lore Who's going to own who is currently owning

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<v Speaker 2>the Links? Josi, Mark Davis. They are begging, salivating as

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<v Speaker 2>owners of other businesses. Who knows what it takes to

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<v Speaker 2>grow something from scratch. All they want to do is

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<v Speaker 2>do what it takes to grow the game. And the

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<v Speaker 2>w n b A won't let them draconian rules that

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<v Speaker 2>don't make no sense. So what we do know is

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<v Speaker 2>the way that the w n b A has handled

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<v Speaker 2>this is a nightmare. It's got to change because the

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<v Speaker 2>league itself is growing. Ratings are way up over the

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<v Speaker 2>last two years despite the pandemic. The league has new

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<v Speaker 2>equity owners that include Condoleeza, Rice and Nike. The valuation

0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:15.080
<v Speaker 2>of the league and its franchise is supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>around a billion dollars right now. Gross. And because we're

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<v Speaker 2>pushing p because we're pushing pe, we're wanting to try

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<v Speaker 2>to pivot hard away from hating the powers structures of

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<v Speaker 2>the WNBA and Major League Baseball and the Olympics. We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get away from that and just tell you about

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<v Speaker 2>really fast this very side road about Don Staley, who

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<v Speaker 2>could have been the coach of the Portland Trailblazers if

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<v Speaker 2>they would have done the right thing. Same thing with

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<v Speaker 2>Becky Hammond actually, but no shade to Chauncey Bullops. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a terrific story on an scape which you should be

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<v Speaker 2>called the undefeated. They've changed names about her incredible influence

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<v Speaker 2>on the world of women's basketball and in this case

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<v Speaker 2>black female head coaches. Back in twenty fifteen, Staley received

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<v Speaker 2>a piece of the net cut down by Carolyn Peck,

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<v Speaker 2>head coach of the Purdue boiler Makers who won the

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<v Speaker 2>title in nineteen ninety nine, making her the first black

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:16.800
<v Speaker 2>head coach in history to win a title in the

0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:21.800
<v Speaker 2>nc DOUBLEA. And that act of kindness doing what the

0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:25.080
<v Speaker 2>WNBA should be doing, which is literally pulling people from

0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:29.320
<v Speaker 2>behind up to lift them to see what's possible, to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that you're making the world a better place

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<v Speaker 2>for the generations after you. That act of kindness influenced

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<v Speaker 2>Don Staley to the point where she cut her own

0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:44.359
<v Speaker 2>NCUBA championship net from twenty seventeen into ninety pieces and

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<v Speaker 2>sent them to black female head coaches in basketball. This move,

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:52.920
<v Speaker 2>she said, connected them all together in an unbreakable bond.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we need more in sports is for people

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<v Speaker 2>to know how they fit into the greater puzzle of things.

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<v Speaker 2>How great is that? Nicole Powell, a young black Head

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<v Speaker 2>coach at UC Riverside, said, Don Staley's move is getting

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<v Speaker 2>me to think bigger. We all need as people, and

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<v Speaker 2>especially in these leagues that think bigger. How can we

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<v Speaker 2>support others, other coaches, other people younger than ourselves at

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<v Speaker 2>whatever level. Veteran coach Diane Richardson of the Tauson Tiger

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<v Speaker 2>summed it up best. She says, I carry this piece

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<v Speaker 2>of the net in my backpack as a reminder of

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<v Speaker 2>the generosity of Dawn, but also the vision and for

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<v Speaker 2>us to aspire to do things like this, lift the

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<v Speaker 2>people below you up and they will do the same.

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<v Speaker 2>She said. It was emotional for me because I know

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<v Speaker 2>how important it is to hold on to the nets

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<v Speaker 2>and all those things for your championship. She felt strong

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<v Speaker 2>enough about us and this fight to hit her to

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<v Speaker 2>cut it up and share it with us. And that's

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 2>the legacy. That is the legacy that the WNBA needs

0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:00.199
<v Speaker 2>to impart. That's the legacy that a team like that

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<v Speaker 2>even other leagues that are not related to basketball need

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<v Speaker 2>to think about doing that. And it also, slightly in

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<v Speaker 2>the midst of all this craziness, gives me hope that

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<v Speaker 2>despite how broken things are now, things can change with

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 2>one or two people. The number of female black coaches

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<v Speaker 2>and women's basketball has doubled in the past twenty years,

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<v Speaker 2>and the game is better for it, because these days,

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<v Speaker 2>with all this shit happening, we need a symbol of

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<v Speaker 2>hope that tomorrow is going to be better than today,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it's something as small and simple as a

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<v Speaker 2>piece of a championship. Note that's all the time that

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