1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Paying for everything I was supposed to be cooking and 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: doing laundry. And I'm sort of like being a girl 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: boss is a track, you know. And I'm joking, of 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: course in a lot of ways, but I did you 5 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: know the underlying is that society has sort of told 6 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: women like, if you just hustled non stop, all your 7 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: dreams are gonna come true. And it's like, okay, but 8 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: we're tired. I'm still underpaid, I'm stressed out. This is 9 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: not the Promised Land. And so I'm like, I'm joking 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: like I want to sugar Daddy because I want some 11 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: time off. I need time off. 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: That is Phoebe Robinson and she's on tour and I 13 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: asked her if the name of the tour was I 14 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: need a sugar Daddy. 15 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 3: But it's not. 16 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 2: It's called Messy a f for the kids. You know 17 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 2: what that means. And she gets into it on today's 18 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 2: edition of Naked. 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 4: It's the greatest dispersion. 20 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: And then the same CANNETI win carry. 21 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 5: Chap and then Carrie Chappy is to be a champion, 22 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 5: a champion and Carrie Chappie and they play a champion. 23 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 5: They carried chapion and carried shepy. 24 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: War Hey, everybody, she is back and by that I 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: mean back on the road again. My next guest is 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: a comedian, an actress, a writer, and she is back 27 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: on tour and today she joins us on Naked to 28 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: talk about her comedy tour, but more importantly, how she 29 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: has been able to arrive at this point. Phoebe Robinson, 30 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: known to many of you guys as the one half 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 2: of Two Dope Queens that hit show on HBO, turned 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: from podcast to TV show. She's always been able to 33 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: take her ip her property, if you will, intellectual property, 34 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: and turn it into a television show. She's such a 35 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: creative and she's so smart. I've watched over the years 36 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: that she built a very I guess I would say 37 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: profitable enterprise using her intelligence, her wit, and her humor. 38 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: Sit back and relax and listen to Phoebe. She's funny, 39 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: she's honest, and more importantly for this particular podcast, she 40 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 2: is extremely naked. 41 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 5: Champion and care with Chapion and care with chap. 42 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: First and foremost. Welcome to the podcast. The greatest there 43 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: ever was in life to ever do it by girl magic, 44 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: super defined underlined everything, exclamation. 45 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: Phoebe Robinson, How are you my friend? 46 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: Wow? 47 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 4: Talk about an intro. Thank you so much. 48 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm so happy to see you're so pretty. It's actually 49 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: kind of annoying it. 50 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 4: Oh, thank you. 51 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 6: I'll take it, Carb, I have, And. 52 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: I gotta be honest with you. You know, I followed 53 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: your career for very many years. Everyone was introduced to 54 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: you with your HBO hit television show, which was a 55 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 2: podcast cast before Two Doube Queens, which was a podcast 56 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 2: before you were a podcast queen. And you're able to 57 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: take projects and make them into other projects based on 58 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 2: the original project. When I talk about recycling and getting 59 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: all of my money, I got a podcast s dope, 60 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it a television series and then ultimately 61 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: I'll take all of my experiences and probably write about 62 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: them in some former fashion based on the material that 63 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 2: I have from these two outlets. And I think you're 64 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: a genius. Do people say that about you? 65 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 4: No? You knowing a white hye call black woman a genius? 66 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 4: Come on, they say that for the white people, come. 67 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: But you that word is not thrown around. 68 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: But you legitimately are your empire, your business empire that 69 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: I can see from my simple view allows me to 70 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: see the vision, and in my mind you're always on brand. 71 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: There is something about you that is just that to 72 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: me makes people curious. Like you write about being black, 73 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: being a black woman, tiny reparations, the name of your 74 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: imprint as well as your company, and you do an 75 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: HBO special that says I'm sorry, Harriet Tubman like you 76 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: to me do it. 77 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 6: All, and I'm all like, gosh, she's so smart. Tell 78 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 6: me why she's sorry to Harriet? Do you what do 79 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 6: you call your brand of work? Do you have a 80 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 6: brand for it? How would you describe it in a pitch? 81 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 4: God? I mean that's such a good question. 82 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I, you know, first and foremost have always 83 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: been a lover of film and TV a lesser degree 84 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: comedy because I thought I was going to write dramatic movies, 85 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: like I never wanted to get into comedy. I thought 86 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: I was like funny, sort of like, oh, you know, 87 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: funny with my friends. But I didn't think like as 88 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: a career. 89 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 4: And so I think. 90 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: I just am someone who just unabashedly embraces themselves and 91 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: all their quirks, like the nerdy things about them, I mean, 92 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: with the thing that like people don't think are cool 93 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: or like in fashion, Like I really just celebrate that 94 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: because I think there's so many people out there who 95 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: have a colectic taste, who lack lots of different things 96 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: and just sort of want to dine on life. And 97 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm very much in that headspace where 98 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: I just I just want to like eat it all 99 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: and really and even though you know, with the strikes 100 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: and everything is a tough moment right now, I just 101 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: I just have such a love of communication, and I 102 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: think that's all my work is, Like I try and 103 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: connect with the audience, whether it's podcasting or stand up 104 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: or writing the books, Like I always want to have 105 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: this relationship with whoever my audience is and let them 106 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: know that like I see them and I hope that 107 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: they see me and that they don't feel alone. So 108 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: I can't sum up in a word, but I think 109 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: it's just, you know, I feel more like feeling and 110 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: like what's. 111 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 4: In my gut? 112 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: Okay, So this woman the first thing that comes to 113 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: mind when you describe that, and and bear with me 114 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 2: because it's a bit of a reach here, but I 115 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: think of Taylor Swift whirl. 116 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: Girl, about the logout girl you compare with. 117 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,239 Speaker 4: Me to Tay tastes sweat. 118 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 2: Would let me tell you why Taylor has eight to 119 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: eighty right, Yeah, she has eight to eighty in terms 120 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: of the people that she can speak to with her music. 121 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: And when you are an artist and you can speak 122 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: to various groups with your art, that is special. 123 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: So someone could say, well, I don't like Carrie. 124 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: I appeal to her, but my approach and things that 125 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 2: I say, and perhaps even the way I look might 126 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 2: be like. 127 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 3: Well, she pro black woman woman, black black black pro. 128 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: You were that, Yeah, but you also were going to 129 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 2: give me my thirsty thursdays with every hot guy in 130 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: the world that I also like that other women also 131 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: like of different backgrounds and we can relate. 132 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: And then you're talking. 133 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, and then you're like. 134 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 2: But let me tell you I do know how to 135 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: double Dutch or whatever fill in the blank black girl thing, and. 136 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 6: Then you're and then I'm very open about inter racial dating. 137 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 138 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: My point is you speak to everyone where they are, 139 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: and you can are relatable. You're just relatable to all 140 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: walks of life, not just one little bucket. They can't 141 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: put you in two buckets. They can put you in 142 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: a lot of buckets. I didn't love Taylor Swift. Yeah, 143 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: I am a new Swiftie. 144 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 6: But once I started to learn more and more about her, 145 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 6: I was like, Oh, I get it. It's not even so. 146 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: Much her music, it's her business acumen. It's how she 147 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: moves in the world. It's like and I could tell 148 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: she is about that business, no matter how sweet and 149 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: she's smiling. 150 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: I'm all like, you don't get up there being a 151 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 3: sweeten smilet. 152 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 6: So I did you see what I'm saying about you? 153 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 6: Do you see what I'm saying? You appeal to a 154 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 6: lot of a lot. 155 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: Of genres, if you will. 156 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 4: I like that. 157 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: I think that is good. I feel like I'm specific 158 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: yet relatable. I think that is a perfect encapsulation. Yeah, 159 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: it's and it's hard to do. And now you're on tour, 160 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: which I want to say, congratulations, first time since twenty nineteen. 161 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: Obviously COVID hit and then during you had eighteen thousand 162 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: TV shows. We'll get to that, but talk to me 163 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: about this tour why now? Yeah, it's really exciting. I mean, 164 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: you know, I started doing stand up in two thousand 165 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: and eight and I was twenty three going on twenty four, 166 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: and I just really felt like I found my voice 167 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: and my confidence through stand up over the years, and 168 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a big believer certainly, Like when my 169 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: TV show Everything's Trash, you know, got canceled and ripped off. 170 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 4: The shaming platforms. We love Bob iger. 171 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: Fame, I was gonna get there delicately, but we'll get 172 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: their necks. 173 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 3: Go ahead. 174 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: But like when that that, because that was such a 175 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: that was like a three year process and you know, 176 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: being in TV, like people didn't just show up and 177 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: you do it and like you go home and it 178 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: really takes on a life of its own and becomes 179 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: off assuming. So that was really my process for like 180 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: three years. And like I had a book come out, 181 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: I you know, did like a podcast or in the pandemic, 182 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: I'll put out a special and I really just felt like, Okay, 183 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: all that stuff is done, the show's over. It's you know, 184 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: end of summer twenty twenty two, and I just wanted 185 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: to kind of return to basics. I always feel like 186 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: whenever you're having those moments of transition, if you will, 187 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: I always feel like it's good to go back to 188 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: the beginning and go back to the root, back to 189 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: the things you love, and then like you have all 190 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: this experience and this knowledge that you could take and 191 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: do it again and I'll help you go further. And 192 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: so I was just like, I really miss doing stand up. 193 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: I wanted tour, and so this is my first theater tour. 194 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: I'm doing small theaters. This is very exciting, and yeah, 195 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: I just was like I miss it. And I always 196 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: tell people this, I really used to dread doing stand 197 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: up until, like I started back this year, Like every 198 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: free set I would have like a pit in my stomach. 199 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 4: I'd be like, I don't want to do this. 200 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: Look, I just was like so on my head and 201 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: I wasn't able to be fully president joing the moment. 202 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: I think some of that, obviously I was doing because 203 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: the indie comedy scene when I started down in two 204 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: thousand and eight was toxic. It was very male dominated 205 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: in a way that I think. I think a lot 206 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: of women who started in New York certainly like have 207 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: residual kind of like you know, like pits in their stomach. 208 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 1: And I think when my show got canceled last year, 209 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: I just sort of was like, Okay, I could put 210 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: all this love and energy into this thing that I 211 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: think is wonderful and beautiful and it could be taken 212 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: away from me. So at the end of the day, 213 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: all I can control is the process in the journy. 214 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: And so I've been having such a fun time doing 215 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: stand up, and I think I think people can tell 216 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: when they watch me, but that there's a sense of 217 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: joy and ease and confidence because I'm really enjoying the experience. 218 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: And no bad set defines me, no grace set defines me. 219 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: All sort of evens out in the end. And so 220 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: I think I'm at a place that feels I think 221 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: I've right sized sort of the emotion and the mental 222 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: inguish about stand up. I think before it was too 223 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: oh my god, my god. Now it's like it's stand 224 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: up and I love this, but it does not define me. 225 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 226 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting how what you're good at, or what 227 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: it could be that you once loved or loved something 228 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 2: about it. It's something that you dread. I'm not surprised 229 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 2: to hear you say that, so were you. And when 230 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: you say small theaters, ruh, what was that size? What 231 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 2: is a small theater? 232 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, like the Wolbird is like a 233 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: little over a thousand and so it's like and then 234 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: there's places like Revolution Hall and like Portland, which I 235 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: think is like seven hundreds, so it's anywhere from like 236 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: seven hundred to like eleven hundred. 237 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 4: I think it's great to sort of dip my toe in. 238 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: And my opener is Chalice Hawkins, who's this brilliant, hilarious 239 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: black woman. Also Ush's based in New Jersey, but I 240 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: met her through stand up and we've just always been 241 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: friends and she's really amazing. And I'm like, if I'm Lenna, 242 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: have someone open for me, I want it to be 243 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: another black woman. 244 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 3: Oh, I love that. Always important do you with your work? 245 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 2: And I did, Like I said, you do speak to 246 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: a lot of genres, but you speak as your perspective 247 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 2: of your first person perspective as a black woman. Is 248 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: it ever uncomfortable to get political and speak your truth, 249 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 2: be your full self. 250 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's like I feel like I 251 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: just don't even think about it, Like I jumped him, 252 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: so like I'm just gonna read it. 253 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: I just this is what I'm thinking you're about to 254 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 2: hear it. 255 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in my head out. 256 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the sort of libra energy. It's like, this 257 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 4: is what I have to say. 258 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna say it, and I think, you know, 259 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: my brother is a politician in Ohio and he works 260 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: at a nonprofit Reading Partners, which is about literacy, and 261 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: so like he's just doing all these amazing things and 262 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: he's showing up every day, especially in Ohio, which in 263 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: my opinion is a red state. 264 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 4: It's not a perfect thing anymore. 265 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: And he's very fearless, and so I'm just so like, 266 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: if he could be fearless and I can say whatever 267 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: I want to say, and luckily, like I haven't been docked, 268 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: like no one sucked me. 269 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 4: So I think, I I don't know, privilege is the 270 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 4: right word. 271 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: And maybe I'm just very lucky that, like I've been 272 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: outspoken and I haven't gotten like any blowback that made 273 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: me feel uncomfortable. 274 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 6: I yeah, I one, I'm always I remember doing pandemic. 275 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 2: Your posts were powerful, they were you're fighting for you 276 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: literally giving a voice to the voiceless, and I always 277 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: thought amazing, and I didn't really I don't. I wish 278 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: I do now, But I don't ever read comments. Really, 279 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 2: I'm not a comment reader of other people's comments. Yeah, 280 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 2: but I find out that's where the fun is. But so, 281 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: but I don't remember too much pushback. I know people 282 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: who have a platform that is of note, that can 283 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: consider that can be considered mainstream in a lot of ways. Worry, 284 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: do you ever worry that you lose work when you 285 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: speak from honest and true experiences like what happened during 286 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: the pandemic. 287 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I definitely have had a couple people 288 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: write comments of like I talk too much about race 289 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: or you know, whatever right they have, or like, oh, 290 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: I like I'm disappointed, and I'm always just like I don't. 291 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't actually know me, Like, just like 292 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: you don't even like you like my comedy. 293 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 4: Or my podcast or or a movie that I was in. 294 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: But like your disappointment honestly literally means nothing to me, 295 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, I'm very much a 296 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: believer and consider the source whenever you get feedback, and 297 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: so it's just like who is it coming from? Is 298 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: it coming from someone who's like if it's my parents, okay, 299 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna investigate that. If it's a close friend, sure, 300 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna investigate that. But I think a lot of 301 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: people love to live online and spew hatred and feel 302 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: like they're a victim. If people from marginalized communities are saying, hey, 303 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: things should be more equal. So I have just always 304 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: come from a place of if you're not a true 305 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: factor in my life, I'm not gonna give your words 306 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: power because that's only gonna harm me. 307 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? And you know I think 308 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 4: just I sello. Who's like on the cusp of forty 309 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 4: I turned thirty nine next month. 310 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: I cut. 311 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think I'm less. I think people say true, 312 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: it's true. It's just like I kind of care less 313 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: what people think. I'm just like, if I lose you 314 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: as a fan, you weren't meant for me and not to. 315 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 3: Play, yeah, and that's okay. 316 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: And if I lose the job, that was the job 317 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: I didn't want, yeah, or the opportunity. I may have 318 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: thought I wanted it, but it would have made my 319 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: life much more miserable. I'm a believer in rejection is 320 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 2: always protection. 321 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: All Right. 322 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: We have to pay some bills, uh, and I do 323 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: that with a lot of commercials. You all know what 324 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: to do, Okay. You can fast forward or you can 325 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: listen to them. You might find something interesting. We'll be 326 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 2: right back in just a few moments. 327 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 5: Every champion and car every champions to be a champion, 328 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 5: a champion and carry champion and carry chat be out 329 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 5: a champion and carry chatpion and carry chat. 330 00:16:51,400 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: Entertainment can make it champion. 331 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 5: The Cary Chappie is to be a Champiana champion, the 332 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 5: Carr Chappie and the champion the car Chapi and. 333 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 4: They carried shep. 334 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: Okay, everybody, welcome back to Naked. Phoebe Robinson is still here, 335 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 2: and we get into what the tour looks like, what 336 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 2: the future looks like, and why she's so vulnerable and honest. 337 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: I hope you enjoy Phoebe Robinson. I think it's interesting 338 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: that you say you're doing these small The first thing 339 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: you just said when you said you're doing small theaters 340 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: and now she was like just a thousand. I was like, 341 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: I have I would throw up if I had to 342 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: entertain the thousand people. She saying, even though I'm from 343 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 2: the television, there's no one there, there's no one behind me. 344 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: It's me just talking to a camera. There's a total 345 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 2: totally different point of view. What do you think this 346 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 2: set that you have been working on, this is what 347 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: you're gonna take on tour? What does it encapsulate in 348 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: terms of what are we talking about? 349 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, well there's I say, small theaters is just like 350 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: in comparison, like the radio city to call up oh 351 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: yeah Court. So it's like I'm working my way to 352 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: that one day, hopefully knockout Wood tomorrow. 353 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 2: Yes, around the corner, Around the corner, Superstar. I believe it. 354 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: I claim it. 355 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: It's really interesting about this hour because when I started 356 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: working it in January, it was sort of just you know, 357 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,719 Speaker 1: just writing jokes and sort of figuring out like what's funny. 358 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: And so I have a workout show that I do 359 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, a Union Hall with Calice that's the. 360 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 4: Second Monday of every month. 361 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: And I was just sort of like writing jokes that 362 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: weren't necessarily related to a theme or anything. 363 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 4: And then I remember in March I. 364 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: Had it was just such a chaotic month where I 365 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: was just traveling on stop. 366 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 4: My brother was coming to town. 367 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: I bought this apartment, was moving into it, and then 368 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: was gonna leave for like immediately leave for like three weeks, 369 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: so like everything was happening at once, and I was 370 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: just going from here, I mean, the one sitting four 371 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: twenty hours another place, and I remember being on a 372 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: flight and I was just like, I want a sugar daddy, 373 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: Like this is. I was like, being a girl boss 374 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: is it's it's a lot. 375 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 4: Here's so basically part of my hours. 376 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: That the why that we were fed of being a 377 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: girl boss is sort of like it's gonna be different 378 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: because the women are gonna be in charge and it's like, well. 379 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 4: We're just doing We're still doing more work at home. 380 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,239 Speaker 1: But I was with my ex boyfriend, like he and 381 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: I was paying all the bills and I was like 382 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: calling this down during COVID and he would complain that 383 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: I like wasn't cooking, and so it was like the 384 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: expectation that I was supposed to like work all day 385 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: paying for everything. I was supposed to be cooking and 386 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: doing laundry. And I'm sort of like being a girl 387 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 1: boss is a trap, you know? And I'm joking, of 388 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: course in a lot of ways, but I did you 389 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: know the underlying is the society has sort of told 390 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: women like, if you. 391 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 4: Just hustled non stop, all your dreams are gonna come true. 392 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: And it's like, okay, but we're tired, I'm still underpaid, 393 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: I'm stressed out. 394 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 4: This is not the Promised Land. 395 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: And so I'm like, I joking, like, won'ts for your 396 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: daddy because I want some time off. 397 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 4: I need time off. 398 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 3: But you are preaching to the choir. 399 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 2: If you get guys, if we can pass the collection 400 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: plate or phoebe, because I have the kind of money 401 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 2: that bolds, not that jingles for her. Because literally the 402 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 2: other day I sent my hair Salas in. His name 403 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 2: is DeVante. He'll get a kick out of this. He 404 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 2: listens to the podcast all the time. I sent him 405 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: this meme and it was so and I'll send it 406 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 2: to you. This is a cartoon character singing I want 407 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: to share daddy. You know why because I want someone 408 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 2: to take care of me. I I'm with you, and 409 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: society has told us that. And there is this there's 410 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 2: this happy medium because it also provides a provides us 411 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: with the freedom that a lot of women I know 412 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: don't have the freedom to say what you feel, to 413 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 2: live your truth, to say I know my worth and 414 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 2: I will not settle. It provides us with the freedom 415 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: to say I can be bad by myself and you 416 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 2: know what I mean, You're not enhancing my promise. So 417 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 2: although there's this upside to it, but then it's but 418 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 2: to your point the day to day and when you're overwhelmed, 419 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: you're like, it would be nice if someone just gave 420 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 2: me seven figures inside of my my checking account. 421 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 3: Just here you go. 422 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 4: Yes, So I'm like not the stressed out. 423 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: You know. 424 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: You read these things where it's like the more a 425 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: woman like rises up within a company, like her title 426 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: gets bigger, the more people dislike her. The more successful 427 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: woman is, the more likely she is to be cheated on, 428 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: to be left. So it's all these things where it's 429 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: like I love that I'm independent, that I have this 430 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: apartment that you know, it's my dream home. All these 431 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: things are amazing and I wouldn't get rid of them, 432 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: but there is something to be said that, like, I 433 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: don't know if being a girl boss is going to 434 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: save us the way that people presented it, you know. 435 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 3: Full agreement, touch and agree. Amen. 436 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: So is this what the hour is about? Because no, 437 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to try to fly to every city you 438 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: see it. 439 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, yeah, So this is the umbrella of like 440 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,959 Speaker 1: which everything is under. And it's been so fun to 441 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: perform and do sort of the workout shows that was 442 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: doing the spring. We're really sort of clicked into place 443 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: for me, and a lot of women in the audience 444 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: were like, I so feel this, I so understand this, 445 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: Like this is what I'm going through. 446 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 4: So I think there's a lot of women. 447 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: Who we're really happy with like the empowerment and sort 448 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: of being leaders, but we're still filling the lack of 449 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: support from society. I think in a lot, even like 450 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: with material leave, it's like you want us all to 451 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: be bosses, but you don't want to take care of 452 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: women when they become others ridiculous. So I think it's 453 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: for me. It really just was like, let's like have 454 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,239 Speaker 1: fun sort of deconstructing this a little bit and make 455 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: people feel better about the stresses they go like there 456 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: is so when they go home they can be like 457 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: I laughed, I have fun. Maybe I peede a little 458 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: bit because I was laughing. So logic, yeah, I like that. 459 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 3: I like that. I like that that shake you that. 460 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 2: But you are saying like, and I also think I 461 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: also think it there is this in eight Like I 462 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 2: think it's in our DNA. I think hunters and gatherers. 463 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: I think God who had to write Hi, you know, 464 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: there is this. We weren't built or initially set out 465 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 2: for that. Nothing's wrong with it, but we will always 466 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 2: go back to our instinct, which is I need to 467 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 2: be provided for and protected at what level? Different for everybody? 468 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 2: Somebody just wants to make sure I can get some 469 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 2: extra walk on a burrito, right. You know, you might 470 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 2: want something a little more than extra walk. You might 471 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: want to drink. You know, I might want a whole meal, 472 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: you know, a combo meal. But my point being right, 473 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 2: you get the point, right, like we we all, no 474 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 2: matter where we are in life, want something in terms 475 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 2: of protection and provision. I think that is genius, as 476 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: you are always do and I want to go. I 477 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 2: want to circle back to something you said this about 478 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 2: being successful and what happens when you do acquire success, 479 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 2: especially as a marginalized woman, it feels as if we're targeted. 480 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 2: You most recently had an entire show and free Form, 481 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 2: and not only was the show canceled, they removed it 482 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: off the platform. What did that tell you? That that 483 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 2: to me felt punitive and extreme? What did that tell you? 484 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 4: It was? Really? 485 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: Sort of It was obviously was so disappointing, and it 486 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: was so infuriating. And you know, just as much as 487 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: I love this industry, there is sort of the talent side. 488 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: We're treated as disposable, and that's really sort of frustrating 489 00:24:54,200 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: because no one's watching a show because Tess Randall's is. 490 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 4: In it, you know what I mean, Like they don't 491 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 4: give a fuck about him. 492 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 2: And so because I thought it was a girl, yeah 493 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 2: to your point, to your point, and. 494 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 4: It doesn't mean that he doesn't have value. 495 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: But I think the thing that's frustrating is that the 496 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: powers that be don't feel like the writers, the producers, 497 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: the actors, it's a marriage, like we need each other, 498 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: we need a platform. You need content on your platform 499 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: so you can get paid. And so it just feels 500 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: sometimes that they're swine away and it's like we're flies 501 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: and we're bothering them, and I'm like, where are you 502 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:45,479 Speaker 1: without a succession or you know, a Martin or a 503 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: living single or a sex and the city. You're nowhere 504 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: without the creative people as well. And so I think 505 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: when my show got taken off, I knew it was 506 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: a financial move. 507 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 4: I thought it was just. 508 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: Very I just thought it was like in poor taste, 509 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: because it's one of the things that you know, the 510 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,479 Speaker 1: writers are striking against and the actress who are striking 511 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: against now we're just like the lack of residuals and 512 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, I know, shows like later on after mine 513 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: got canceled, like the day was announced, it was taken 514 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: off the platform, so it's like they didn't even get 515 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: it just feels very cool, and it's hard to sort 516 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: of wrap your head around because it's like when the 517 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: strike is over, we all gotta we all gotta. 518 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: Work together. 519 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 4: Like this then just happened. You know, it feels very 520 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 4: much like what are we doing? 521 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: So that was really heartbreaking, and you know, it really 522 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: has like had me down and I think this is 523 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: the lowest I felt, just like emotionally since I like 524 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: better doing comedy because it's just sort of like I 525 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: just want to create and have fun and it just 526 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: feels like there's all this other beat assets in the 527 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: way of it, and it's just so it's just so infuriating. 528 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it just means that you're becoming more and more successful. 529 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 3: I have to tell you. 530 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 2: It just means that you're rising the ranks and you're 531 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 2: understanding what it is, and it just means that you 532 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 2: have to stay committed to the essence of why you started. 533 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: I think everyone gets to a point where you're like, 534 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 2: I cannot believe y'all did that to me, Like I 535 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: why that's cool? And the business is exactly that, it 536 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 2: is cool, And that's so unfortunate because you show up 537 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: and you stay kind and you say genuine and you 538 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 2: don't even you don't even know how they think like that. 539 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: You're like, how do you even how do you sit 540 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 2: and say I'm taking this, I'm just removing everything from 541 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 2: the platform, Like what do you how do you even 542 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: think like that? You wouldn't even think to do that, 543 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? So I get it. I 544 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,239 Speaker 2: understand your disappointment, but that means something more exciting as 545 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 2: along as coming along. Have you have you felt like 546 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 2: more opportunities are coming will be coming your way after 547 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: the strike? 548 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 4: I don't know. 549 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 3: I mean, are you feeling unsure of work? 550 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 4: Well, it's just like we just don't know what the 551 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 4: industry is gonna be like because the longer that this 552 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 4: goes on, I'm just like, okay, even like the strike 553 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 4: and it in like September or it's not, but like 554 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 4: end of October, like the quickest, like for scripted, you're 555 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 4: gonna start shooting like sometime in January, and so it 556 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 4: just feels like I don't know what the landscape is 557 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 4: gonna be like, but I still have like my head 558 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 4: full of ideas, and so I want to like create. 559 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: Another TV show and like you know, act and produce 560 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: because that's like my happy place professionally, and so I 561 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: still want to do that, and I hope that the 562 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: industry will sort of come back together and sort of realize, yes, 563 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: everybody like wants to make money, but like the joy 564 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: is in doing the craft and the process and like 565 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: being in writers' rooms and looking at producer cuts and 566 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: like all those things and collaborating with artists and authors. 567 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: Is so I really just feel like the powers that 568 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: be have you know, totally lost track of that, and 569 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: that that's like I want to try and calibrate them back. 570 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm gonna hold hope. There's been moments during 571 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: this stripe where I'm like, I just want to quate 572 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: a waff away, but I'm like I want to hold. 573 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: I hope that I can like keep producing and be 574 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: a platform for other people too, because I think that 575 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: that's like sort of the through line of my careers 576 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: that I always want to share my space with other creatives. 577 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: You know, we feel the same way. My world is 578 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: a little different because we are not necessarily sag after 579 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 2: but the uncertainty of television right now, But it's not 580 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: just our industry. It affects every industry. Like my girlfriend's 581 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: a real estate agent and she's like, hey, sold a 582 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 2: house and I don't know how long because everyone's so 583 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: uncertain with Hollywood and what's going on with the market, 584 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 2: and the markets are uncertain, So there is definitely this 585 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: feeling of and fear is palpable. People catch it quicker 586 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 2: than you know, they do courage, But I just I 587 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,719 Speaker 2: do believe that everything will work itself out in its 588 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 2: cyclical And I look at your business model, what I 589 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: think is your business model, because that's the way I'm 590 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: thinking now because I was like, I gotta do other 591 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: stuff besides this TV thing. 592 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 5: Every champion and carry champion is to be a champion, 593 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 5: a champion and carry chatpion and carry chat beata champion 594 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 5: and carry chatty and carry chatty. Entertainment can naked word, 595 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 5: Harry Champion and carry champion is to be a champion, 596 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 5: a champion and carry chatty and nigger got a champion 597 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 5: and carry champion and carried chat entertainment. 598 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 2: Nakeet working, you create, you have an imprint, U tiny reparations, 599 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 2: and then you have your production company. Obviously we know 600 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: we're going to put that on pause for a moment. 601 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 2: But you still have ways of making income. And I 602 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 2: want to know why. First of all, congratulations because you 603 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: had a New York Times bestseller, didn't you? And with 604 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: your emperor, and you just did a poem. I guess 605 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: most a book of poems or just poetry came. 606 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 4: Out today for sure. Yeah, congratulations. 607 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 2: So I'm allike looking at you like you got money 608 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: over money, over money, But tell me about a tiny roll. 609 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 4: We all know, yeah, touches after pay? 610 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 3: Did the coins dropped? 611 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: Yes, shrink, Yes, I'm aware, But tell me about this 612 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: business model because you're you are hitting on all cylinders 613 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: in terms of I'm working in each aspect of this industry, 614 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 2: in terms of entertainment. So I'm curious how you came 615 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: up with the imprint and partner with Penguin. And I 616 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 2: believe in plum plum. 617 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: Yeh yeah pluk. So they publish my nick poems all 618 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: on my books. So I started working with them in 619 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Well, twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen when you 620 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: Can't Touch Been Here. It came out, and they've always 621 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: just been really supportive, totally got what I wanted to do, 622 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: and when I wanted to do an imprint, I just 623 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: approached them. I was like, hey, I think I'm ready 624 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: for this next step, Like I think I've proven myself 625 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: that not only do I love writing, but I think 626 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: I have like a good eye for talent. 627 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 4: And yeah, So we launched. 628 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty and my book was the first one 629 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: to come out, and then the next they had a 630 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: couple more that came out in twenty twenty one, and 631 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: then the New York. 632 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 4: Times bestseller was a Portrait of a Thief by Grace Dan. 633 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 3: Yes, that's what it was. 634 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's fantastic. She's currently writing a second book with us. 635 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: And author retention was always like a big deal for 636 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: me because I think, you know, publishing is big, you 637 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: have like all the big name authors. I think sometimes 638 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: if you're a newer author, you might feel like a 639 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: little loss in the shuffle. So I always wanted to 640 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: make sure our imprint was like flalling here way, I 641 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: think we're I think we're the dream is for us 642 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: to publish like fifteen twenty books a year. I think 643 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: right now we're around like seven eight, so we're getting there. 644 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: And so I really just always wanted to be a 645 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: place where authors could feel like they can write the 646 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: books that they want to write. They won't be supported 647 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: not only by name, but by people at Plume. And 648 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: it's really been a dream come true. And I just 649 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: I think business wise, it just was sort of like 650 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: I love books, I love movies, I love TV, I 651 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: love stand up and so those are the things that 652 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: I've done, which has been really exciting and great, and 653 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, I think the imprint is one of 654 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: the things I'm the most proud of that I've done 655 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: because you know, a lot of people don't know this, 656 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: but like when you write a book, like the average person, 657 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: you don't know, like, especially if it's fiction, you have 658 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: to write the entire book. So people are spending years 659 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: writing like their dream novel for free and then hoping 660 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: they can sell it to so on. That is such 661 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: a leap of faith of not only in your talent, 662 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: but just like you have to love writing in order 663 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,919 Speaker 1: to want to do that, and to see like these 664 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: authors who are like first timers who are just sort 665 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: of like, Okay, I'm want to try my hand at this. 666 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: I'm believe I'm really talented. I have a good storytell 667 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: and be able to publish your books. It just feel 668 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: I just like a proud mama, like I'm never going 669 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: to have kids because I don't want to be a mother, 670 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: but I feel like I love book babies. 671 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, and you aren't giving in your God, You're 672 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 2: creating such a wonderful entry into this world for so 673 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 2: many people who otherwise be overlooked. And I think we 674 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 2: all know what that feels like. But even and at 675 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 2: the same time, I think it's just really smart. When 676 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 2: I told you, I'm like, God, I love this business plan. 677 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 2: I see this, I see this corporation we're building, if 678 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 2: you will, right, I see the mogul U becoming, if 679 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 2: you will. But it's all inspiring and and that's why 680 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 2: I am a huge fan of yours. I want to 681 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 2: know when people can where people can go to find out, 682 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 2: how to check you out on tour? And is it 683 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 2: called I need a Sugar Daddy tour? 684 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: No? 685 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 3: If not, you're missing out right now you can give 686 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 3: it away. 687 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: You have my id, go ahead, the messaf tour and 688 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: you can go to Phoebe Robinson dot com. You know 689 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: it's on the landing page. I don't even make you 690 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: click to the tour no. 691 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 4: Street when I got time for that. 692 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 1: They're on their phones. I want to kick your ship 693 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: and make you not want to have to go to 694 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 1: another page. 695 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 6: We don't because we watch TV with our phone so 696 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 6: we can back checked. 697 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 4: And we we are be busy. 698 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 2: We have busy people doing nothing. Ain't nobody got no 699 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 2: job If you're busy people doing nothing? According to the ecotomy, 700 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 2: we trash. Okay, so I really truly want to support. 701 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 2: I saw that you were in Seattle. 702 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 7: When you come to La September twenty second, okay, yeah, 703 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 7: and then and then I can always see you and 704 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 7: are soon to be hometown, our mutual home area in Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Brooklyn. 705 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm excited for you to be in Brooklyn. 706 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, as someone who's been here for twenty years, 707 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm clearly biased, but you'll love it. 708 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 2: I love it. 709 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 3: I can't. 710 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 2: I stayed for three months in Williamsburg and I was like, oh, 711 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 2: I have to move here because I have going to Brooklyn. 712 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 2: Different parts of Brooklyn I was like, I have to 713 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: move here. Not Williamsburg per se, but I was like, 714 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 2: I must move here, and so I it's just a 715 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 2: wonderful experience. So I can't wait to really take this 716 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 2: off of social media, the podcast and the TV and 717 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 2: hang out with you. We can have a lot of fun, girl, 718 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 2: because I'm fun. I don't know if you know that. 719 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: Judging by your Instagram, you seem very fun and you 720 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: always turnel look good time. 721 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 2: Phoebe Robinson brilliant, brilliant and successful, also beautiful. 722 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 3: Thank you for joining me on the podcast. 723 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 4: Thank you for happy bed. 724 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 2: So don't forget you all head to her a website, 725 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 2: even her Instagram Phoebe Robinson dot com and support she 726 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 2: is on tour and I think it's great, she said. 727 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 2: For some time, as you heard her say, it was 728 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 2: difficult for her to get up in front of an 729 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 2: audience and just bring her full self, and now she 730 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 2: loves it. It was a tough ask. But now she's 731 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 2: given you all that she has and I really want 732 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 2: us to support her. It's rare that we find people 733 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 2: who are truly humble and kind and then have this 734 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 2: great mind, and when they get this success, they still 735 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 2: remain the same. Hollywood changes people, and I'm proud to 736 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 2: say she's one of a few that I know intimately 737 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 2: that I can say has not changed again. She deserves 738 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 2: all of our support. Check her out Phoebe Robinson dot com, 739 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 2: go see her on tour. If not, watch some of 740 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 2: her television shows. Follow her on Instagram. There's a lot 741 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 2: to learn. Talk to you all next week.