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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephane

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Speaker 1: Never Told You production of I Heart Radio. For today's many,

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Speaker 1: we have a very special MANI because it's listener mail listener. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you all send us amazing letters. We love them. I

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Speaker 1: keep saying letters instead of email. I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you're going into old school because some of

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Speaker 1: these are just instant messages. I don't know. Letters feels

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Speaker 1: more like it encompasses a lot, So I mean um

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Speaker 1: our listener, Jamie are a friend of the show. Jamie

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Speaker 1: did send us some great letters as well as the

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Speaker 1: buy that she sent us really pretty stationary that I

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Speaker 1: need to start using. You know. The one thing I

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Speaker 1: like I really suck at my penmanship. But I really

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Speaker 1: don't have that skill. You couldn't work on that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do need to work on that. But yes, I'm

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Speaker 1: very excited to do this segment because I love reading

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Speaker 1: all the best gets such good advice, and we get

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Speaker 1: so many good recommendations we do, and and your listeners.

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Speaker 1: Every time you you message us in whatever matter it is,

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Speaker 1: you often let us know about something that we didn't

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Speaker 1: know about, which is great because we, Yeah, we want

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Speaker 1: to make things that you like, and we don't want

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Speaker 1: to miss things that we should be talking about. Don't

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Speaker 1: do like I have. I have a big case of fomo.

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Speaker 1: Big case of fomo. That's what I say when I

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Speaker 1: see you. Yeah, I'm like, look, we have to do

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Speaker 1: these things. I got to up up with the times, right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: we gotta keep up with the times. Um, and I

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Speaker 1: guess speaking of that, we do have two Sex in

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Speaker 1: love it. I know, I know I do too. Kyla

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Speaker 1: or Kayla wrote, I'm sorry I miss pronounce your name. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I love the show I always have. You're doing great

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Speaker 1: all that. Thanks, UM, just checking in to say that

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Speaker 1: I would be obsessed with the Sex and the City

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Speaker 1: reaction videos pitched in the latest episode. Thank you for existing,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for existing and sending this message. And you know,

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Speaker 1: as we said, the options on the table, it's not

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Speaker 1: so much for agreeing, because this has been my dream

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Speaker 1: YouTube show that doesn't exist, is to have my snarky,

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Speaker 1: of maybe doing that occasionally on our happy Hour episodes.

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Speaker 1: So if that's something people are interested in, please let

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Speaker 1: us know. Um and I actually have access to Sex

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Speaker 1: in the City now and I haven't watched it. Just

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Speaker 1: this becomes a thing. Well, I did make you watch,

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Speaker 1: So you and I got together at one point during

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Speaker 1: half of the first episode. Right, it's the second episode,

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Speaker 1: the second episode, and we were getting into it and

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Speaker 1: let us know. Jennifer also wrote about Sex in the City.

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Speaker 1: Sex and the City has always been one of the

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Speaker 1: shows that rewatched annually, like Friends in the Office, No

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Speaker 1: Samantha and her cultural knowledge of the series. The dialogue

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Speaker 1: is witty, the storylines are unique, and the feeling of

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Speaker 1: now and with their family's pps, maybe an episode on

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Speaker 1: the Women of Friends could work, just saying it could

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Speaker 1: creepy interview of Jennifer Aniston and David Letterman and it

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Speaker 1: Stephanie wrote, I've wanted to share something going on in

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Speaker 1: my town, Lubbic, Texas regarding reproductive rights. I have been

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Speaker 1: A video went around big groups when Maya Pope says, quote,

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Speaker 1: but that's just my opinion. So Wow, that is a lot.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for bringing that to our attention,

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Speaker 1: because that is a huge issue. And this is kind

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Speaker 1: need to be paying attention because you're solutely right. This

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