1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to the Tuesday edition of 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. The audio phenomenon continues. 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: Thank you for being here with us. We have so 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: much to dive into. Doge doing its thing. The cuts 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: are coming, The cuts are coming fast and furious. The 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: Federal Leviathan is healing the heat. This is all very 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: good stuff. Some things and I have to have tip 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: Chris Rufo for this, that have been found from within 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: the intelligence community an internal but company remember not like 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: private time, an internal chat thread that Chris Rufo has 12 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: gotten access to from within the IC. So we have 13 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: our own classified Now this is unclassified information, but we do. 14 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: There's ways obviously you can talk to people in the 15 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: building at Langley and you can you know, we're sending 16 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: classified emails, classified text messages, those sorts of things. There 17 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: was some kind of a thread set up for the 18 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: lgbt QIA plus plus members of the intelligence community, and 19 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: some of the things that were said are very troubling 20 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: and make you think that there are activist weirdos who 21 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: have infiltrated the intelligence community in the hundreds at least, 22 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: which is and that's just what we can see. So 23 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: we shall discuss that a little bit. And I think 24 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: actually a producer, Ali, why don't we put out an 25 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: asked to Chris Rufosi if he wants to come on 26 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: and discuss because I can add a little. He's never 27 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: been in the CIA, so I could kind of look 28 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: at what he's got and give a sense as to 29 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: what I think is going on here. We've also got, 30 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: like I said, doge what they're doing the gender madness. 31 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: Bill Maher asking one of the pod save bros Hey, 32 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: if you think the state should be able to hide 33 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: gender dysphorio or dysmorphear, whatever they want to call it 34 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: this week from parents. You're in a bad spot because 35 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: the American people are not with you. I think that's 36 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: a really interesting discussion. David hog Clay, who would definitely 37 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 1: benefit from some chalk, Like we should get that guy. 38 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if they could do chalk intravenously, but 39 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: with this guy needs some chalk from our our friends there. 40 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: But anyway, David Hogg talking about Biden's mental decline and 41 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: how it was hidden from every I think that's really interesting. 42 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: But for those of us who are taking stock of 43 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: where the Democrats are at this moment in time, unburdened 44 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: by what has been. MSNBC is unburdened by the Joy 45 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: Read Show at this stage. And now she's very she's 46 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: very upset. Now, I will tell you this, Clay and 47 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: I are both nice, Like, we are both nice people. 48 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: Clay Clay is a little can be a little little saltier, 49 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: little sassy, or sometimes are faster to be salty. I 50 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:00,399 Speaker 1: would say, is that fair? 51 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: Am? 52 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: I I don't want to speak for you, but you're you. 53 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: You like a good scrap online. You know I can 54 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: do and I don't. 55 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 3: I don't like the way I will describe it is 56 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 3: I try to be super nice to everybody, but the 57 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: minute that someone is unkind to me, I flip pretty quickly, right, 58 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 3: Like I think that's fair. 59 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Clay has Clay has two speeds, chill with 60 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: everybody or nuclear war. Basically, I think that's that's somewhat accurate. 61 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: Like I don't force escalation. I'm like, are you really 62 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: intending to be so rude? Like Clay is just like 63 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: nuke boom gone, So it's accurate. Yeah, exactly, That's how 64 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: it goes. I pay attention now with Joy Reid. She 65 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: has spent years being quite nasty to people on the right. 66 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: I think she has an animus to certain people that 67 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: comes out in her commentary, and now she wants sympathy. 68 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: This is cut too, and Clay, you can react to it. 69 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: Here we go, Joy Reid very sad that she's no 70 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: longer getting paid millions of dollars to be horrible at 71 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: her job. Played too. 72 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 4: My show had value and that that that what I 73 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 4: was doing value value. And in the end, I try 74 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 4: not to cry on TV, so I apologize. In the end, 75 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 4: where I land is that the moment that I've of guilt, 76 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 4: that I felt that I went hard on so many issues, 77 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 4: whether it was the Black Lives Matter issues of a 78 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 4: young baby or a mom or dad that was killed, 79 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 4: or you know that Nicole Hannah Jones put into our 80 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 4: spirit that we need to understand sixteen nineteen as the 81 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 4: real founding of this country, whether it's talking about Gaza 82 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 4: and the fact that we as the American people to 83 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 4: have a right to object to little babies being bombed. 84 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 4: And where I come down on that is, I'm not sorry. 85 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: Are you sorry? Clay? 86 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 3: For her no, I'm ecstatic, and I also love that 87 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 3: she started to cry because I want her to be 88 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 3: sad and I want her to recognize that the only 89 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: reason she ever had a job was because her bosses 90 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: are morons. And even when they recognize she was a moron, 91 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: they were afraid to fire her because they were afraid 92 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 3: that she would call them racist. And I think this 93 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 3: is emblematic of how everything has fallen apart. How about 94 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 3: Rachel matt Aubuch. Did you see this? She went on 95 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 3: right after Joy Reid and said MSNBC is racist for 96 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: firing Joy. Read this is Rachel mad Albach, who makes 97 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: twenty five million dollars a year to do one show 98 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 3: a week. I know she's on for the first hundred 99 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 3: days of Trump or whatever. Nobody seems to really care. 100 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 3: She's lost her mojo. But listen to cut three. This 101 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 3: is how much of a disaster inside of MSNBC is. 102 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 5: Buck. 103 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: I think you would agree with me on this. 104 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: I'm not ever going to and I don't think I 105 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: ever have publicly taken shots at my employer on the air. 106 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 3: I think it's super unprofessional. And I also think, like 107 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 3: you're not going to agree with everything that ever happens 108 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: to you at any job. For Rachel Maddow, who I 109 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: think has been treated more fairly by MSNBC than maybe 110 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: anyone in our entire industry. 111 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: They made her a star. She's very replaceable. Yes, they 112 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: made her a superstar, paying her tens of millions of 113 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: dollars and has absolutely zero gratitude. I'll tell you this, 114 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: I have never turned on any employer that I have 115 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: ever worked for publicly because I think it with the 116 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: exception of CNN, however, I was a contractor there for like, yeah, 117 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: short period of time, and that was political. It wasn't that. 118 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: I wasn't saying CNN like mistreated me as an employee. 119 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: I was just like, they're out of their minds. They 120 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: hate Trump and they're destroying the country. That's just the truth. 121 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: But in terms of people that you've worked for, I 122 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: think it shows a real character deficit, especially especially when 123 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: you've been elevated the way that Rachel Maddow has been 124 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: an MSNBC to turn around and say, oh, you know, 125 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: look at what they're doing. But you know what this 126 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: is clay. All the very overpaid white hosts in primetime 127 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: at MSNBC, they have to go above and beyond to 128 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: make everyone understand how much they care about diversity, equity 129 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: and inclusion. And by the way, it's all bs because 130 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: if she really thinks it's awful, then she should resign 131 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: and she should insist that MSNBC replace her with a minority, 132 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: a black woman in particular. 133 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 3: But this was Rachel. Of course, she's not going to 134 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: do that because she wants her money and she also 135 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: wants to tell everybody how holier than now she is. 136 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 3: But remember, buck, was that Rona McDaniel that got hired 137 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 3: by NBC News and Rachel Maddow threw a fit and 138 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 3: they ended up firing her. I think it was Rona McDaniel. 139 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 3: This is the not the first time we've seen a 140 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 3: major flare up that has occurred inside of the community here. 141 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 3: But here is Rachel Maddow saying, Hey, basically, Joy Reid 142 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: got fired because she's black ANDNBC is racist. 143 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 6: Listen, there is no colleague for whom I have had 144 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 6: more affection and more respect than Joy Reid. I love 145 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 6: everything about her. I have learned so much from her. 146 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 6: I have so much more to learn from her. I 147 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 6: do not want to lose her as a colleague here 148 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 6: at MSNBC, and personally, I think it is a bad 149 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 6: mistake to let her walk out the door. It is 150 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 6: not my call and I understand that, but that's what 151 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 6: I think. I will tell you. It is also unnerving 152 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 6: to see that on a network where we've got two 153 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 6: count of two non white hosts in primetime. Both of 154 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 6: our non white hosts in primetime are losing their shows, 155 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 6: as is Katie Fang on the weekend, and that feels 156 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 6: worse than bad no matter who replaces them. That feels 157 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 6: indefensible and I do not defend it. 158 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: Oh, they're so at MSNBC. They're so racist. All of 159 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: a sudden, I got a couple things for you on this, Clay. 160 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: One is this is a reminder that as far as 161 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: the left is concerned, the metrics don't matter when it 162 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: comes to anything that involves race and DEI. Her numbers 163 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: are terrible. This is a business right. She doesn't actually 164 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 1: move the needle. It would be one thing, and it's 165 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: a different thing if they had a situation where where 166 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: Joy Reid's numbers were doing great, but they thought her, 167 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, persona was too toxic for the current environment, 168 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: which has happened to other hosts by the way, at 169 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: other networks, but whatever, and they pushed that person out right, 170 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: that would be one thing. Her numbers are terrible, so 171 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: objectively she is failing at her job. TV is a 172 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: brutal business. You and I know this, so is radio. 173 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: By the way, you're not getting the numbers. Somebody else 174 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: has to come along and do it. So that's part one. 175 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: Part two for me is madam makes what thirty million 176 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: dollars a year? Yeah, twenty five million. Now she got 177 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: thirty million. They gave her a pay cut to do 178 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: one day a week. They dropped her all the way 179 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: down to twenty five. I don't know how they can do. 180 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: Go she should go to the execs at MSNBC and 181 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: say because also Joy reads this, this is one thing 182 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: that I'll say is brutal about the particularly TV business too, 183 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: in radio sometimes as well. But when the host goes, 184 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: the staff goes yeah for the host. And I've I've 185 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: been present for when this happens, like I've been there 186 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: when the show is I've been on a show that's 187 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: been canceled before. And it's like when a head coach 188 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: gets fired too, the whole staffuse gets fired. Everybody goes 189 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: so everybody goes. So she had probably ten or oh no, 190 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: it was way more than that. It was I think 191 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: I've seen It's a few dozen staffers working on our show, 192 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: and a lot of them are being if not all 193 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: of them being let go. My point is merely, if 194 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: Rachel Mattat was so upset by this, she should have 195 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: gone to them. She doesn't need any more money. She 196 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: should go to them and say, guys, take ten million 197 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: out of my salary and cover Joy and her staff 198 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: for another year. Give them another She could do that. 199 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: It wouldn't be as good. People have done that in 200 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: media before they've taken There have been actors who have 201 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: taken huge pay cuts to pay by the way, Keanu 202 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: reeves famously to pay the staff a lot more to 203 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: you know, the crew a lot more during COVID. 204 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: I bet you did this, Buck, I mean, everybody at 205 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 3: iHeart took substantial cuts to I know in the sports 206 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 3: department we did. There were no sports going on. I 207 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 3: gave up, I don't remember what it was, like a 208 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 3: third in my salary in order to try to keep 209 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: people from getting laid off. I think a lot of 210 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: on air people did. 211 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean that's what you do for your people, right, 212 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: because your people are necessary for the product that you're 213 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: putting out and you have a loyalty to them and 214 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: vice versa. So I just think it's interesting in Rachel 215 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: Mattaw here she is crying about this, or well not 216 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: quite crying, that's Joy Reid, but whining about this, and 217 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: it's completely within her power to have changed the situation. 218 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: She could also just say I'm going to fund Why 219 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: doesn't she fund Joy Joy Reid's next media venture. I'm 220 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,239 Speaker 1: sure it will be incredibly successful just telling white Republicans 221 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: how awful and racist they are every day. I'm sure 222 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: there's just a huge audience for that that she could 223 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: tap into. So or really all Republicans, but particularly white 224 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: republic Constroy Reach seems to have a big problem with 225 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: and that's I think the realities of the media environment 226 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: right now, Clay reflecting the realities of the political environment 227 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: that we're in, which is a different era and Trump 228 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: is the new sheriff in town and there's no way 229 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: around it. 230 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll play some of the data because I 231 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 3: think what you hit is so incredibly important. This ultimately 232 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: comes down to dollars and cents In twenty seventeen, being 233 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: virulently anti Trump made The Washington Post, The New York Times, MSNBC, 234 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 3: CNN and other media outlets tons of money, and so 235 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: they leaned into that. What's happened so far in twenty 236 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 3: twenty five is the legacy media has been destroyed in 237 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 3: the last eight years and their audience doesn't trust them anymore. 238 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: And I the Megan Kelly numbers and we'll play some 239 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 3: of her diving into the actual number of people that 240 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 3: are listening. We have more people in some cities listening 241 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 3: to us right now on the radio than we're watching 242 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 3: joy Read in age demos right now, which is pretty crazy. 243 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: We have single stations of the five hundred stations that 244 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: this show is currently carried on. I think it might 245 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: be like four hundred and ninety eight or something, but 246 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: five hundred stations, we have single, single stations that are 247 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: more listened to than the entire demo audience for joy 248 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: Reads catch right show is that is actually a fact 249 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: right now, which is pretty amazing. So we will dive 250 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: into all this. And I just have another side note, 251 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: but before I forget it, your point play, and I 252 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: think it is so cleared out for everybody A lot 253 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: of these left wing hume left wing media because they 254 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: had control, there was a saturation effect. Yeah, just so 255 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: many places and so many they're all saying the same thing, 256 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: and they're really not that talented or that interesting. You'll 257 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: notice that when somebody on the right leaves the mothership, 258 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: generally there's one mothership that they leave, But I'm leave. 259 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: When somebody on the right leaves a big corporate TV 260 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: place and goes off on their own, somehow, they're very successful. 261 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: That's very successful afterwards, because they have an audience, they 262 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: have a talent, they have a skill set. Democrats, if 263 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: you don't go from MSNBC to CNN, or you don't 264 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: go from CNN to NPR or something like that, you 265 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: got nothing. 266 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: It's a whole different market. Yeah, they have no actual 267 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 3: audience of fans. And I think that is going to 268 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 3: become very apparent to joy Read that she cannot replicate 269 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 3: her multimillion dollar salary despite the fact she's had the 270 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 3: luxury of coming into people's homes for years to convince 271 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 3: them that they should like her, and they still have it. 272 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I've got going on tomorrow night, everybody, 273 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: It's exciting. Steak night. That's old Carrie. I said, it's 274 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: a cheap meal night coming up for me. I'm moving 275 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: around dur in the week sometimes on the weekends, but 276 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: I got family in down this week. 277 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 3: Steak is a cheap meal for you. How healthy are 278 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 3: you now, I mean claim that's unbelievable. Steak is pretty healthy. 279 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: They do just have that many calories clay, when you 280 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: throw the burnette sauce in there, when you add in 281 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: the baked potato with a little ogret tan, when you 282 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: maybe do the cream spinach. You know, when you say 283 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: there's a way to do steak that anyway, we'll talk 284 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: Dian another day, point being tomorrow night, I'm diving into ribbis, 285 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: my friend. I've already got them thawing in the fridge 286 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: from Good Ranchers. Now, there's a bunch of fancy steakhouses 287 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: here in Miami that I could go to and spend 288 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the truth. It's like one hundred 289 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: and fifty dollars ahead at these steakhouses. This is crazy expensive. 290 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: The steak that I make at home is better because 291 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: of the quality of the meat that I have from 292 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: good Ranchers. 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I'm telling you I've got 302 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: a couple of ribbis and they are going to be 303 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: so juicy and delicious. I'm already looking forward to it. 304 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get my step count up a little bit 305 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: today so tomorrow I can feast a little more. In 306 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: the Clay's point, the sides is really where you do 307 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: the damage on the calories. But that's a conversation for 308 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: another time. Love my cream, spinach. What can I tell 309 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: you Goodranchers dot com? My friends, the meat is central. 310 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: If you don't have top quality steak, you can't make 311 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: a great steak. This is just the truth. 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There 321 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 3: is a report out there that over four hundred thousand 322 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 3: IRS tax returns were intentionally leaked, many of which not 323 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 3: going to shock you were of Republican leaning individuals. Wouldn't 324 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 3: shock me if my tax return is out there somewhere 325 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 3: based on the number of audit requests that I've been 326 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 3: getting from the Biden administration to IRS. We'll talk about that, 327 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 3: but we're also going to talk We mentioned audience and 328 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 3: how MSNBC's audience has collapsed and CNNs has as well. 329 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: Megan Kelly had a. 330 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 3: Really smart take on the actual data, and I want 331 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: you to hear from her how tiny these audiences really 332 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 3: have become we'll talk about that when we come back. 333 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: My friends. It's critical that you don't throw money away, 334 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: and that's where Puretalk comes in because you can get 335 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: the best sell service anywhere for the best prices anywhere, 336 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: and it's so easy to switch. 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We're talking 356 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: about what's going on here over at MSNBC, the meltdown. 357 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: You got to understand, you know, this is this is 358 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: like the scene in the Lord of the Rings where 359 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: Frodo finally well, he doesn't really throw it in. We 360 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: know that, uh, what's his name? Not got Gollum? Right, 361 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: I'm forgetting the what's his other? The name? That my 362 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: precious like the stuff like the yeah, yeah, the little 363 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: monster like bites his finger and it falls in there. 364 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying and then soar on and all 365 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: the bad stuff goes away. It kind of feels like 366 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: that right now. It kind of feels like CNN, MSNBC, 367 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: The New York Times, the shroud of sourn is disappearing 368 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: from the landscape, and we're like, oh, wow, we don't 369 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: have to live in a country run by lunatics anymore. 370 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: This is a this is really nice. I'm enjoying it, 371 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: and I should know we should enjoy it. You should. Actually, 372 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that there's not going to be a 373 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: an Empire strikes back moment. There will be we all 374 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: know that I'm not a triumphalist on this stuff, but 375 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, take take the W when you 376 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: get the W. And you have to also remember that 377 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: these individuals in the media, particularly under the Trump administration, 378 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: well you know, Trump and Biden administrations were vicious to 379 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: their counterparts on the right, people like Clay me. I mean, 380 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: not that it bothered they're like, oh, they were mean 381 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: to us. But these are some of these are horrible people. 382 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you they're not. They're actually it's not 383 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: that I just disagree with them. There are nice Democrats 384 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: that I think are wrong on everything, but they're not 385 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: horribly human beings in the media. And then there are 386 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: actually just garbage humans who honestly deserve what they get 387 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: at this point, and there's there's a fair number of them. 388 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: You know, I don't have to sit here and name 389 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: I don't even want to name the names, because you 390 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: know it, it gives them more attention than they deserve. 391 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: Now let's get into where Joy Reid is in this 392 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: whole situation. Megan Kelly, a friend of ours, friend of 393 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: the show and somebody who obviously went independent and did 394 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: very well for herself and is doing very well for herself. 395 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: And she spoke about what's going on really with Joy Reid. 396 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: Let's hear what. She's a savvy media observer. Megan knows 397 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: the ins and outs. Let's see what she thinks about 398 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: all this play. 399 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 5: When I was at Fox, a bad night in the 400 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 5: demo would be in the threes, three hundred change, but 401 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 5: it was often six hundred thousand, seven hundred thousand in change. 402 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 5: Here's her demo number from Thursday night, fifty nine thousand, 403 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 5: fifty nine thousand. That's what she got in the overall demo. 404 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 5: She lost to her competitor on CNN who had one 405 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 5: hundred and four thousand, lost a Laura Ingram who had 406 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 5: three hundred and eighty nine thousand. 407 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: Lost. 408 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 5: The whole ratings race inside MSNBC where their great white 409 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 5: hope Jensaki, who's taking over now at nine. Okay, that's 410 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 5: their future. Rachel Maddow, she's their big star for thirty 411 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 5: million dollars a year. All you have to pull is 412 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 5: one hundred and forty four thousand, which I think is 413 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 5: what we got. Maybe overnight at three am during a 414 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 5: weekend program. 415 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,239 Speaker 3: So let me explain this book, because Meghan's taking you 416 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 3: inside the numbers. Everyone is judged in our business by 417 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 3: how many people are watching, listening consuming your content. That 418 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 3: is the business. The more people who watch or listen, 419 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: the more you can charge for ad rates, and the 420 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: more profitable show is. So what she is talking about 421 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 3: is people age twenty five to fifty four as the 422 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 3: target demo. That is the age range that a lot 423 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 3: of advertisers want to reach. That is buying a car, 424 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 3: that is buying a house, that is young married, into 425 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 3: young parent, into college age parents wine range. Right, you 426 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 3: can think about your own life, how you might have 427 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: changed from being twenty five to being fifty four. Buck 428 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 3: fifty nine thousand viewers for joyread in twenty five to 429 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 3: fifty four year olds. To put that into context, and 430 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 3: we hit it at this a little bit. There are 431 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 3: city where we are on right now, one of five 432 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 3: hundred cities where more than fifty nine thousand of you 433 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 3: are listening to us right now. The collapse of MSNBC's audience. 434 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 3: She said, I think Rachel Maddow one hundred and forty 435 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 3: four thousand people in the demo. I mean you're talking 436 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 3: about not even able Joyread to fill a single football 437 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: stadium with people aged twenty five to fifty four paying 438 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 3: attention to what she is talking about. There are lots 439 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 3: of clips that you or I will share from this 440 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 3: show on video that will get a more substantial audience 441 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 3: than that. 442 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: I also think we shouldn't let the audience escape from 443 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: this conversation unscathed. I think we should take a moment 444 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: to dunk on the MSNBC audience too, because what does 445 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: this tell us. It tells us that for years the 446 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: audience that was watching really believe that Trump was Hitler 447 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: and that Russia collusion was a thing, and and you know, 448 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: Trump was the end of democracy. So they are easily 449 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: misled in fool. That's part one. But maybe even more 450 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: poignant in the moment is that there are a bunch 451 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: of babies play. And I'll tell you all this right now. 452 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: Going into this election, yes, we felt very confident Trump 453 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: was going to win, as you know, you can go 454 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: back and play the tape, and you know he was 455 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: going up against Kamala for heaven's sakes, like we thought Trump. 456 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: But you know, it's a crazy world. Look look at 457 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. You know, you can't discount anything. There was 458 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: never a moment where Clay and I, talking off air, 459 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: were like, oh man, what's what if will everyone just 460 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: stop caring about the news and the country if Kamala 461 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: were to win, Like, what's going to happen? Because we 462 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: know all of you want information, care about the country, 463 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: and have you know, have the emotional fortitude to you know, yeah, 464 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: we would have been a bu of a week if 465 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: Kamala had won the election. We would have come back 466 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: here and said, all right, how do we how do 467 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: we you know, thwart the agenda? How do we get 468 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: ready for the next round? How do we save the country? 469 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: And this NBC it's like they're all taking their ball home. 470 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: No one can play, They're all crying about it. 471 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 3: And the audience is finally bailing because I'm like probably 472 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 3: many of you who said, if you're constantly lied to, 473 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 3: I don't mean you disagree with somebody's opinion. Yeah, yeah, 474 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 3: the buck is totally wrong about the Beverly Hills cop movie, 475 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 3: Like it's actually pretty entertaining. 476 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: Just keep just keep digging that ditch to go. But 477 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: and by the way, the. 478 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 3: Caller the other day, anyone but you great recent romantic 479 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 3: comedy Glenn Powell, Sidney Switting. 480 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: You might disagree with that. 481 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 3: But if I came on and I said, hey, the 482 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 3: new Beverly Hills cop. 483 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: Movie or the new Anyone but You movie. 484 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: Made a billion dollars at the box office and is 485 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 3: the most successful movie of all time, and you listen 486 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 3: to me, and then you went and looked it up 487 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 3: and you. 488 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: Were like, wait, he's totally wrong about that. 489 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 3: You should not trust me as much when you get 490 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 3: a fact wrong, not an opinion, because we can all 491 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 3: be wrong about what we expect to happen. For instance, 492 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 3: Buck went underground in the Great City of Atlantis on 493 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 3: Buck Island over whether Biden was going to remain as 494 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 3: the nominee. 495 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: They still should have kept him. They still should have 496 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: kept him. I'm just telling you it was crazy what 497 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: they did. But keep going. 498 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 3: And I swung and missed on. Surely they're not dumb 499 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 3: enough to actually elevate Kamala. I thought they would find 500 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 3: somebody more appealing than her. Right, those are opinions. It's 501 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 3: hard to predict the future. But if you get facts wrong, 502 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 3: and MSNBC got a lot of facts wrong, and they 503 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 3: just kept stacking them one after another. Eventually the audience 504 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 3: comes to distrust you. And I think that's actually the 505 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 3: story of MSNBC. Not only joy Read not interesting, not 506 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 3: very talented, but the platform che's on MSNBC. As you 507 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 3: heard Megan Kelly actually bring the data. The audience has 508 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 3: just vanished overnight, and the young audience in particular that. 509 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: Is twenty three. But there are more Democrats watching Fox 510 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: News every night now. 511 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 3: They promised a result really as well, Yes, because they 512 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 3: went so all they abandoned all objectivity and decided that 513 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 3: they were all in on activism because it was so 514 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 3: worth it in this moment, because this was the last shot. 515 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 3: They're a little bit like a cult that was telling 516 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 3: us the world will end in twenty twenty four if 517 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 3: Donald Trump wins. Donald Trump won and the world didn't end, correct, 518 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 3: some of the cult members wake up. 519 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: Or they go I thought I was going to be 520 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: in the space planet of the lizard people, and they're 521 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: all sad about it, you know, and they've got their 522 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 1: little special travel kit ready to go to the planet 523 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: they were promised they would elevate too. No, that doesn't 524 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: actually happen. I think that I mentioned before David Hogg 525 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: desperately in need of chalk. We should send I'm a 526 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: package of it. I think David Hogg speaking out about 527 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: the Biden mental claim. This guy's the vice DNC chair, 528 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: which is also remarkable. I mean, has neither ability, nor accomplishment, 529 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: nor wisdom, nor virtue nor bravery, don't even get me 530 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: started the whole thing. But here he is saying something 531 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: that is obviously true. Clay about your point with the lying, 532 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: and I think this even gets a little bit worse 533 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: than the lying. It takes it. But here's what David 534 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: Hogg had to say. He's the vice chair of the 535 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: DNC at sixteen. 536 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 2: Frankly, anybody that did speak out about that was immediately ostracized. 537 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: In our party. 538 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: They were right, And I know that we like to 539 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 2: claim that we're not a cult, but anybody who did 540 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 2: say that President Biden was too old basically had their 541 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 2: career destroyed. That's a problem. All the people who said like, no, 542 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: we're just gonna we're gonna keep doing all this stuff 543 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,479 Speaker 2: to make sure that everything's good and we don't need 544 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 2: to talk about the president's age now they don't have 545 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: a job, right, What good does that do? But the 546 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 2: reality is if any single one of them spoke up 547 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 2: about it, they probably wouldn't have kept their job and 548 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: they would have been ostracized and effectively excommunicated from the party. 549 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 2: That is a huge problem. There are many lessons we 550 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: need to learn from the selection, but that is one 551 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 2: of the main ones that we have to learn is 552 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: that we cannot be. 553 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: A cult that is one hundred percent accurate. That is 554 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: actually I will give him full credit and astute well. 555 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: I would say I shouldn't say a STU because it's obvious, 556 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: but a truthful observation from David Hogg. But here's clay 557 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: where I think it's a bigger problem for Democrats. They 558 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: humiliated their base too. The MSNBC audience not only was 559 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: promised and lied to, but the MSNBC audience feels humiliated 560 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: because they believed this garbage and now everyone can see 561 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: it's garbage. They believed Joe Scarborough when he said less 562 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: than a year ago that Biden is the sharpest he 563 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: has ever been in his eighty years of life. They 564 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: believed him. You can't humiliate your audience and get away 565 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: with it. I think that's true. 566 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 3: I will say to David Hogg, if you followed up 567 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 3: and said, you know what, you're right, Democrat Party shouldn't 568 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 3: be a cult, so you definitely belie leave that men 569 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 3: who say they are women are not actually women, right, 570 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 3: And he'd be like, no, no, no, they're women. So he's 571 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 3: willing to say I think it's important here, Oh, Joe 572 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 3: Biden was not mentally and physically capable of being president. 573 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 3: Because Biden is now off the stage, he's not willing 574 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 3: to address the cult members on the things that the 575 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 3: cult still believes, which are, for instance, hey, men should 576 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 3: be able to play women's sports and be the best 577 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 3: female athlete on the planet. He wouldn't take the step 578 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 3: to actually speak truth to power. It's not brave to 579 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 3: say something that everybody in retrospect has decided is true. 580 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 3: It's brave to say something that is true when everybody 581 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 3: still hasn't decided it's true yet. 582 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: I think that until you see the Democrats have the 583 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: moment of honesty about the whole trans thing that needs 584 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: to happen for them to be out of pure cult status, 585 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: they're just going to keep spinning their wheels. But they 586 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: they tried this when they had all the media at 587 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: their disposal, that they did and they had so much control, 588 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: and they had Facebook, and they had Twitter, and they 589 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: had all these things. They tried to make us all 590 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: celebrate the lie. And they can't do it anymore. And 591 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how they walk it back without admitting 592 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: that the whole thing was a lie, a bit like 593 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,479 Speaker 1: they did with Joe Biden, which you know that that 594 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: whole thing was such an embarrassment to their party, and 595 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: I think that the damage that it has done is 596 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: going to continue for a long time. Well, take some 597 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: of your calls and get Also, we love talkbacks, so 598 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: go to the iHeart app, which is a great app 599 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: to have. 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I had a late 638 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 3: night and an early morning. I was watching White Lotus 639 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 3: season two sorry, season three episode. 640 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: What do we think about that? First episode? I think 641 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: you might redeem yourself here. It was almost on the 642 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: It was a bad first episode. Second episode was good. 643 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: I watched it last night. I have no idea how 644 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: many of you watch. There have been three seasons. 645 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 3: It's a murder mystery on HBO about privileged, rich people 646 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 3: who go away on vacation and you try to find 647 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 3: out who died. 648 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: That's the story in essence. I'm glad the second because 649 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: Kerry and I had that one slated for this weekend. 650 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: But the first episode was trash, so at least you 651 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,439 Speaker 1: recognize that Clay, there's hope for you. Read the first 652 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: episode was trash, So there we go. 653 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 3: I want all of you out there to go to 654 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 3: Crocketcoffee dot com use codebook. Go sign up, particularly if 655 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 3: you have phenomenal taste, as some of you do, not 656 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 3: only for coffee but also for pop culture. Crocketcoffee dot 657 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 3: Com code Book you'll get an autographed copy from me. 658 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 3: This is truck driver Jeff Man of the people Spectacular 659 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 3: Taste in film. 660 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: He has sent us a message and here is what 661 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: he had to say. 662 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 7: Hey guys, this is Jeff, a truck driver from Missouri. 663 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 7: I just wanted to say I took Clay's advice and 664 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 7: watched Axelf last night. 665 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty good myself. 666 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 7: I don't know what you were thinking, Buck, but hey, 667 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 7: you know everyone has their own taste. 668 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: Well there, Jeff, I love you, sir. You're a great 669 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: American and a patriot. But I think you're off. I 670 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 1: think you've hit the wrong interstate on this one. Maybe 671 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: uh maybe it cuts somebody off and uh they gotten 672 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: a little bit of a wreck. Because I think you're 673 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,439 Speaker 1: you're off off the Mark on this one. I will 674 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: raise you listener Rick from Mississippi. This is talkback CC. 675 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 7: Just have to say I disagree with Clayton and one 676 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 7: hundred percent agree with Buck at Beverly Hills cop the 677 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 7: new one was trash compared to the originals. 678 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: I firston listener Rick, also in a truck. I think 679 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: you might have also been in a truck that we 680 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: have dueling truck drivers over whether Axelf was good or not. 681 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: And as I've always said, Missouri truck drivers far more 682 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 1: trustworthy the Mississippi truck drivers. I can't believe he's throwing 683 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: Mississippi truckers under the bus like this just for Axilouri. 684 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: Everybody knows Missouri truck drivers have great taste. Mississippi truck 685 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: drivers not so much. When we come back, we are 686 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: scheduled to be joined by our good friend Jim Jordan. 687 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 1: News coming out of the House Judiciary Committee over four 688 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: hundred thousand reported tax returns leaked. We'll dive into that also, Buck, 689 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: some good news out there for those of us who 690 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: are Star Wars fans. Border numbers are phenomenal. 691 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 3: And an update on the Philadelphia Eagles, your chosen Super 692 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 3: Bowl team, and what they are planning on all that 693 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 3: still to come. Here on the Tuesday edition of Clay 694 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 3: and Buck, Thank y'all for hanging with us.