1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: First date of follow up powered by the Advocates Injury 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Attorneys online at advocateslaw dot com. 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: Nicky is on the phone today for a first date 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: follow up and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Josh. 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: So in a few minutes we'll call him and see 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: if his house why is ghostinger and maybe get her 7 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: another date. But first, Nikki, how long has it been 8 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: since you heard from Josh. 9 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 3: It's been a few days now, Okay? 10 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 4: Is that really ghosting? Is that unusual? 11 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 5: Well? 12 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 6: I think so because he acted like he wanted to 13 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 6: see me again. So I texted him and it's been 14 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 6: I don't know, maybe like four or five days without 15 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 6: any response. 16 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Nikki, why don't you tell us about 17 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: how you met Josh and how the date went. 18 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 6: Yeah, we met at this really cool cafe with like 19 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 6: old books and candles, and it was a really cool vibe, 20 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 6: like he seems to know a lot about places like that, 21 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 6: and it was a cool idea and behind the book 22 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 6: felt there was a. 23 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 4: Speakeasy Oh cute, Well that's cool. 24 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, So when I got there, he showed me that, 25 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 6: and so we went in there and it was kind 26 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 6: of like a dark room kind of romantic and like 27 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 6: sort of eerie, but in a sexy kind of way. Yeah, 28 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 6: it was fun. It's like I'd never been to a 29 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 6: place quite like that. And at one point the lights 30 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 6: kind of flickered and Josh kind of leaned in and said, 31 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 6: asked if I felt the energy shift? 32 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 4: Energy shift? Okay, was that like coach now? You know? 33 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 6: Well, he wanted to tell me this story about a 34 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 6: ghost that apparently has been haunting that building since prohibition 35 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 6: times and only reveals itself to people. 36 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 4: Who believe that's kind of cool. 37 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 3: A ghost. 38 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a ghost, so he like it could 39 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 6: have been creepy, but it felt kind of exciting, like 40 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 6: he was making an effort and like putting on a 41 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 6: show for me. 42 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: I kind of laughed and played along. 43 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 6: We had espresso martinis that were really good, and after 44 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 6: the day he walked me to an uber and we 45 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 6: were hugging and kissing like no tongue but like still 46 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 6: a passionate kiss and kind of like you know, touching 47 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 6: each other. 48 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 4: That's hot. 49 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 3: Yeah. So I think he's exciting and interesting and. 50 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 6: So cute and just like he's different from anyone I've 51 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 6: ever met. And I felt a really strong chemistry and 52 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 6: I just want more. 53 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 4: So why do you think he's ghosting? 54 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 5: Then? 55 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 4: If it sounds like you went pretty well. 56 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 6: Well, I think that he might be ghosting me because 57 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 6: I don't believe in ghosts. 58 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 4: So is that real to him? 59 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I. 60 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 6: Think, And like sometimes guys get insulted, I guess to 61 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 6: be like, he felt like I was laughing. 62 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: But I told him after we. 63 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 6: Kissed that, you know, like that I didn't really believe 64 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 6: in ghosts, but that I had had a really fun 65 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 6: time and I told him that he was a great storyteller. 66 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: And then he asked if I. 67 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 6: Believed in ghosts, and I said no, and then his 68 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 6: tone sort of changed. 69 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 3: But I didn't really think anything of it. 70 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if why that would be worth ghosting 71 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: somebody over because the date sounded like it went really well, 72 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: So I don't know that feels that feels weird? 73 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess. 74 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 6: I guess it's been more like I don't know, time 75 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 6: goes by so fast. 76 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: I guess it's been more like six or seven days, 77 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: you know. 78 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 6: But he told me to text him when I got home, 79 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 6: which was really sweet, and I did, but there was 80 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 6: no response. 81 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 3: And then he hasn't reached out since then? 82 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 4: What game is this guy playing? Does the kind of 83 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 4: feel like there's something weird going on there? I don't know. 84 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 4: Could he just like be busy? That doesn't That doesn't 85 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 4: feel right either. What do you think, Nikki? 86 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: What is there any other things going through your head 87 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: on why it could be that he's ghosting you? 88 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 5: No? 89 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 3: I really can't think of anything. 90 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 6: I mean, I thought that, you know, I just thought 91 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 6: that we had a really good time and so you know, 92 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 6: that's the That's the only thing I can think of. 93 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 4: I mean, the laughing at him might be an issue. 94 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe I wasn't really laughing at him. I was 95 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 6: like laughing at the idea because like ghosts. But I 96 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 6: mean it's kind of like a kid thing, you know, 97 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 6: just being honest, like I don't feel like I'm being haunted. 98 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: You know. 99 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, well we'll see if we can figure it 100 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 4: out for you. 101 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 2: We'll plus song come back and then call him and 102 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: see if hotell us why is ghosting you? 103 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 4: Maybe get you another date? 104 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, thank you, Okay, Well plays song, come back 105 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: and get your first day follow up next run middle 106 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: of today's first day follow up. If you're just joining us. 107 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: Nicky is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by 108 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: a guy named Josh, and we're about to call him 109 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: and see if ho tellus why is ghosting a real? 110 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 4: First? NICKI, why don't you catch us up on your situation? 111 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 6: Okay, Well, I went out on the state with this 112 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 6: guy Josh, like about a week ago, and we had 113 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 6: a great time. We had drinks and we went to 114 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 6: this kind of speakeasy place and he told me that, 115 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 6: you know that it's sort of haunted like by ghosts 116 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 6: from the Prohibition era, and I said, I'm We had 117 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 6: a great time. But I did reveal later that I 118 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 6: don't really believe it goes. And I think that's maybe 119 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 6: why he's not reaching out. 120 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, because you kids, and then you said 121 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: that and then he ghost Did you believe in ghosting? 122 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 5: Though? Yeah? 123 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 4: All right, are you ready for us to call him? 124 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, thank you? 125 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 4: Yep, all right, here we go. Hello, Hi, I speak 126 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 4: to Josh. Please. This is hey Josh. How are you? 127 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: My name is Jewbel. I'm calling from a radio show. 128 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: It's called the Jewbel Show. 129 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 4: Hi, Josh. 130 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: Ar'mina also on the show him Victoria. 131 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 4: Hello, how's it going, it's going, greed. Do you listen 132 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 4: to the show ever? 133 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 3: Josh? 134 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 2: Okay, that's okay, that's fine. Well, Josh, we do a 135 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: Segon went on our show. It's called the first Date 136 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: follow Up. What that is is if you go out 137 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: on a date with somebody and end up ghosting them, 138 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: they can email us to get you on the phone 139 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: and ask why you're ghosting. So we got an email 140 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: about you from somebody that you went out with. M 141 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: yiss okay, any idea who would be? 142 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 5: Hm? I maybe a Nikki? 143 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: It is a Nikki. And Nikki emailed us and told 144 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: us she had a really good time with you. But 145 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 2: she's confused and says you've been ghosting her for about 146 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: a week now. 147 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 5: M yes, I have. 148 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 4: Okay. 149 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 5: Well, honestly, she doesn't. She doesn't believe believe in she 150 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 5: doesn't believe in ghosts. 151 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 4: Okay, she doesn't. 152 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 5: Believe in ghosts. She doesn't believe in the spiritual world. 153 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 5: She's not open. I've been able to speak to ghosts, 154 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 5: hear them, speak to them since I was a child, 155 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 5: and honestly, and she just doesn't believe. She doesn't think 156 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 5: it's real. 157 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 4: So well, why is that a problem? 158 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 5: For you, because anyone and everyone can speak and hear ghosts. 159 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 5: As long as you open yourself, you can. 160 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 4: What does that have to do with dating her? 161 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 5: Because if how am I supposed to open my soul, 162 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 5: my spirits myself to someone who doesn't believe? 163 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: Okay, so well that makes because it's about your need, 164 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: yea more well. 165 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 5: It's about it's honestly. 166 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 4: Never honestly, it's. 167 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 5: About I never meant. 168 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 6: Like maybe I wouldn't have laughed about it if you 169 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 6: explained it like that. I didn't know that it was 170 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 6: more serious for you. 171 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 5: How could you not tell it was serious. I've been 172 00:07:54,200 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 5: speaking to ghosts all evening. You didn't think that was you. 173 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 6: I didn't really know that. I mean, you know, I'm 174 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 6: open minded. It's just I I didn't know that you 175 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 6: saw it like this, or that you have always been. 176 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 5: This is what I am, this is who I am? 177 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 4: Does that feel kind of rue? 178 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 5: I'm just speaking to a ghost. Is not speaking on 179 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 5: the phone to someone else. Relating what they're saying to 180 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 5: the other person who doesn't have the spiritual ability was exciting. Honestly, 181 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 5: I have taken so much time training women to interact 182 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 5: with ghosts. Yes, and then Honestly, I feel like they 183 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 5: just they do it and they do it and they 184 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 5: try and they never really actually speak to them. 185 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 6: Well, I want to try that. I think that sounds exciting. 186 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 6: I want to go back to the speak easy and 187 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 6: I want you to teach me about this fascinating fascinating. 188 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 4: Well, that's a good thing. 189 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 3: I'm open, you know. 190 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 5: I'd like to why are you willing to open yourself 191 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 5: truly fully to the beyond? 192 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: I'll ask Josh, would you like to go on another 193 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:25,119 Speaker 2: date with Niki? We'll pay for it, hm will. 194 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 5: I think we can as long as you understand. I 195 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 5: will guide you only as far you do understand that 196 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 5: this is this is a journey with us. 197 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 3: I do. 198 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 5: I understand this is a journey. Not necessarily, I mean, 199 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 5: it is a date, but it's a journey. 200 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 4: So I think that was a yes. Yeah? Is that 201 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 4: an for another journey? 202 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 5: Yes, it is a yes. 203 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, yeah, let us know how that goes. Grat 204 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 4: to NICKI you got another date, Nikki. 205 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 5: We will have it. We will have a wonderful time. 206 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 5: There's there's a graveyard that I've just been. There's so many, 207 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 5: so many spirits there. Honestly, it's a great it's a 208 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 5: great crowd. 209 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 3: I would love to meet them. 210 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I have a great time. Let us know 211 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 4: how it goes. 212 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 5: Thank you and and and thank you and uh my 213 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 5: friend Jefferson, he approves your choices. 214 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 4: Well tell him I said, thank you and have a 215 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 4: good one, Josh, have a. 216 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 3: Wonderful Thank you. 217 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 4: Guys, you will first date, follow up