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Speaker 1: The following he's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Blowing out of the backfield,

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Speaker 1: Nick flowing down the sidelines. He's hanging with the boys,

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Speaker 1: presented by Wing Stuff Where Flavor gets its wings. Now,

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Speaker 1: your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon

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Speaker 1: Gross guests. Who's back? Quick trip to Mexico? What's what's

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Speaker 1: your nickname for him? Now? Nate, you know what, I

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Speaker 1: don't want a salt Spanny. I'm not him. You know

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Speaker 1: you turn that hap when you go down the carboy

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Speaker 1: or whatever the work if you turn them bake the

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Speaker 1: wrong way. Well here I'm gonna hey, hey man, we

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Speaker 1: had a much more Where's where hurt? So much better

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Speaker 1: at this than me? What is that? Well? I ain't

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Speaker 1: been in one of the concert where's the concert that?

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Speaker 1: Where's the right outside? A player? Player? I had to

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Speaker 1: go scout it out, make sure everything's in shape because

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Speaker 1: it looks like I'm going at that first game. I'm

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Speaker 1: great at the first class. I'm over it. You know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say my two cents and then we're gonna

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Speaker 1: take Cooke Collins eight eight five, five, two, two, nine

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Speaker 1: seven names. I ain't throwing in the towel yet. I

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Speaker 1: still think this is a good football team. But I

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Speaker 1: will tell you you don't win from great too good?

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Speaker 1: Am I line? Are they great? Is this a great

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Speaker 1: football team right now? Nate? Well, be it that we

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Speaker 1: want to have maybe one or two undefeated teams and

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Speaker 1: we're on a forty five games? But would you say

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Speaker 1: this is a great football team. It's a good football team.

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Speaker 1: They're right where I thought they would be. This is

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Speaker 1: not a line. Where are they gonna finish? Where do

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Speaker 1: you haven't finished? In ten or six? And I said

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Speaker 1: they would be the playoffs wild cards. They're right where

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Speaker 1: I said they were gonna be. Five games is that's

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Speaker 1: where I said they were, how they were gonna get there.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna look when they got there, But I

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Speaker 1: said five games in right here. I will tell you this,

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Speaker 1: the sky will the sky will fall if they lose

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Speaker 1: this week? Oh yes, Because I keep looking at the schedule, Man,

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Speaker 1: damn schedule scares me. There's only one gimme on that schedule,

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Speaker 1: maybe two this week in the last one. That's the

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Speaker 1: only two. The rest of them on the road. Yep,

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Speaker 1: the rest of them right now, they can change it.

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Speaker 1: I still think they're a good football team. I just

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Speaker 1: hope you start off slow, you finish strong. I'd rather

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Speaker 1: do that than than start hot, finished slow, ride it

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Speaker 1: into the playoffs. Stop, Nat, put your headphones on. What

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Speaker 1: do you laugh? You quit? No? No, I just it

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Speaker 1: amazes me that the talent is still the same we have.

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Speaker 1: The only thing new is the offensive coordinator. And you,

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Speaker 1: Jesse may jump all over me. He may not, but

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Speaker 1: I but you may tell me the offensive coordinator making

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Speaker 1: this much much of a difference one with another? How

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Speaker 1: you think? Because ain't nothing changed? Ain't nothing changed now? Yes,

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Speaker 1: Banneresh don't look as good as he did last year. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Jalen don't look as good at this point last year.

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Speaker 1: But what they're three and five. They have slowly walked

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Speaker 1: their way back to their division. But other than that,

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Speaker 1: let's see, I mean, Zke hasn't got on track. Dak

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Speaker 1: is you know, been on track, but kind of falling

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Speaker 1: off the last few weeks. I mean, let's see, man,

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Speaker 1: I mean, gallop gallop is nice, Cooper is nice. And

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Speaker 1: I went back and look at that pass. Man, if

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Speaker 1: he would have caught the ball, would have been saying

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Speaker 1: he made a nice play for that. That first. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that that I keep looking at it, slow motion, fast,

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Speaker 1: That would have been a nice cat stop. I'm about

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Speaker 1: to jump on you. Now you can jump on men.

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Speaker 1: Go back and look at it. Man, I watched it

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Speaker 1: all the time right here. He got to catch it.

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Speaker 1: He gotta catch it, he gotta catch it. I agree,

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Speaker 1: If you know what, I would agree. I would give

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Speaker 1: you that. I would give you that room for that.

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Speaker 1: That that excuse if it was Cedric Wilson, if it

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Speaker 1: was This is a Mark Cooper. When when you are

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Speaker 1: when you are the ace, when you are the number one,

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Speaker 1: when you are that guy, when your momentum is going

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Speaker 1: All right, So it would have been a nice catch.

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Speaker 1: Our momentum is going to the phones. A look at

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Speaker 1: great catch. It'd have been a great catch, at least

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Speaker 1: a nice catch. But that ball was behind it. That

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Speaker 1: ball was catchable. It was catchable. It was catchable to

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Speaker 1: an average receiver in the league. And it's most definitely

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Speaker 1: catchable forty least not for average. Because we had like

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Speaker 1: what is open? The phone lines Adria to North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: You got some more y'all go again, y'all again. But hey, man,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? Man? I tell you what. Like I said, Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm a cowboy fan, my hard supporter, but some games

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Speaker 1: of cowboys make me nervous. Clean My house is immaculate.

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Speaker 1: I was so nervous watching that game. Um nah, Bro.

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Speaker 1: But it's the thing about it, Like I said, I

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Speaker 1: don't want I hate when I see somebody lose their job. Man,

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Speaker 1: any man, But we've talked about this and it's been

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Speaker 1: an issue over the past couple of seasons. They should

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Speaker 1: have helped Cam Fleming out on that other side. Man, Um,

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Speaker 1: I think that you know, we talked about that seventh

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Speaker 1: keller Moore. Yeah, he's got he's he's a great mind,

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Speaker 1: but he has to he's on the job training so

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Speaker 1: to come back that you need to go with the

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Speaker 1: sure stuff. Dump at the Z, dump at the parlor,

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Speaker 1: let them chunk up some stuff, and then after that

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Speaker 1: to keep the defense on this. That's just my opinion. Um. Also, man,

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Speaker 1: little bit more vocal with the players to get them

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Speaker 1: paw because you know, you see a lot of other

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Speaker 1: know that's all I'm gonna say. I'm hanging up. Man. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: Thanks Bro. I think that's I mean, different coaches have

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Speaker 1: different styles. I mean, just like different bosses have different styles.

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Speaker 1: some just let it ride. I don't have a problem

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Speaker 1: and there. Oh, there's several. If you're on the sideline

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Speaker 1: during that game, there's several. Colombo does not keep it

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Speaker 1: that's not what you? Who are you? And that'll take

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Speaker 1: that yelling and cussing, you know, all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: What the yeah like that? What's wrong with this? Mike struggling?

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Speaker 1: What's wrong? Date? Huh ha? Been a great catch ball

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Speaker 1: fan of day Brother. Yeah, you're allowed. It's old calls

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Speaker 1: Good to find? No white hair is open? Then the

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Speaker 1: first call it catch it right? So that would have

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Speaker 1: been a great Michael Williams, What part of Florida a man?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show? Oh fla? What part be laying

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Speaker 1: next to day ting to be his headphones? What's up

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Speaker 1: for five minutes from from? What's up? All right? I'm

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Speaker 1: glad you need to meet up from that? Yeah, we'll

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Speaker 1: do that. Man, come to the show like you ever

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Speaker 1: come to Dallas Sometimes men come come on, man, we'll

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Speaker 1: put you on the show called Shannon. First of all,

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Speaker 1: get to know Shannon real world, and he'll put you

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Speaker 1: on the show. I'm gonna hang up and listen. Oh man. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I only got two things one two bones to pick

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Speaker 1: to say. One is Jason Garrett with his red flag.

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed watching him get a little angry, telling my say,

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Speaker 1: go ahead and loosen up those Tommy John's and keep

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Speaker 1: that going angry. Maybe if he get angry and let

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Speaker 1: other one, I'm gonna call out to the boy again

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Speaker 1: this week now. I called y'all last week, and I

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Speaker 1: out of don't do nothing, mister tain't lying. I need

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Speaker 1: to see something and I don't care, and I'm dude,

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Speaker 1: on the Garrett thing. I don't know if y'all saw

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Speaker 1: down about the ten and what do you what do

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Speaker 1: you'll think about Tank? Is he just getting double team?

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Speaker 1: Does this is where. This is where from this game on,

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Speaker 1: This is where I asked that everybody that is somebody

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Speaker 1: when it becomes uh uh at verse at verse time

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Speaker 1: or situation, now, yes, I gotta ask yes it is.

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Speaker 1: Was it a good catch? No? No, in my train

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Speaker 1: is your playoffs is now your your mindset. Your mindset

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Speaker 1: is because you walk yourself back to the NFC East.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles ain't the Eagles ain't getting them, but better

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Speaker 1: we gotta find out who Detroit is because that could

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Speaker 1: Detroit is from this point on. Don't matter if it's

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Speaker 1: AFC or NFC. You got to be dropping a him

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Speaker 1: and playing some good football these next six or seven games. Now,

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Speaker 1: what's your thought bro on this? Oh? Well, when you

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Speaker 1: look at the schedule from here on out, the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: have the toughest schedule in all of football. From this

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Speaker 1: So when you look at that, that lets you know,

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Speaker 1: and you're already two games in the hole. Yeah right,

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Speaker 1: the game at the highest level. I played for the

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Speaker 1: America's team. I'm still talking about and they still pay

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Speaker 1: me by the word. The teams like about the show

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00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: because it was about the word. But yeah, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you can't. You can't immanent me after I've already ain't

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Speaker 1: mind myself. Well, thanks, that was a good call for

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Speaker 1: guard and that was fun. Jesse, all right, this is

429
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Speaker 1: really getting out of hand now. And I never dropped

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Speaker 1: the pass in the National Football no matter where it

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Speaker 1: came from. I was seven for seven, so that was me.

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Speaker 1: I would have caught that pass. I'm Mark Cooper. Now

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Speaker 1: let me stop it. I'm like, you ain't doing you

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Speaker 1: know where near Mary all Right, just getting ridiculous. Scott

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Speaker 1: in Jersey. Oh, he goes, Scott Holly. This is definitely

436
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Speaker 1: a family. What's up, Scott, Welcome to the show. How's

437
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 1: it going, guys, great man? Long week for Doves Cowboys fan.

438
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: It's only Tuesday. It's only Tuesday. It's dev' It happens

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Speaker 1: every single year under Jason Garrett. Year he's not had

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Speaker 1: to defend himself. It's been ten years, Gart, it's been years.

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00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: We make excuses for Jason Garry every single year. First

442
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: was Bill Callahan, then with Scott Linehan. Then it was

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00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: not Kelli Moore. We're doing Kellamore and at us. Then oh,

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00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: des Bryan, he's not running his rounds right now. It's

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00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: always excuses, and I'm tired of it, man, I'm really tired.

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00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: We have the talent. Everybody's telling me we have the talent,

447
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: but we're not at least like we never overachieved. The

448
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: only years we overachieved is when we have all time

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00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: great rushing of performances by DeMarco Murray and Ezekiel Ellie.

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Speaker 1: Other than that, we've been underachieving since he's been the

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Speaker 1: head coach, and people are getting on Jesse Holley saying, oh,

452
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Speaker 1: he never did anything in the league. Well, your head

453
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Speaker 1: coach was a bombing and and and that he was

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Speaker 1: a bomb So, like, I really you talking about my

455
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Speaker 1: teammate like that. I'm sorry, Nate, your teammate, Jason Garret.

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Speaker 1: He's a great guy. Sure, he's a Greek guy. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure he's a nice person to talk to, but as

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Speaker 1: a head coach, he's not that. He's not that you

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00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: whose team is Doc Cowboys. He would telling me that

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Speaker 1: Doc Cowboys Tomas back. Kyle Shannahan is doing with his challenge.

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Speaker 1: Yeah boy, here, sir, let me say something. When he

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Speaker 1: first came in, much like we don't know about Kellum,

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Speaker 1: I've watched this kid when he first came into league, Shanahan,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shannon, he was arrogant. I didn't like him. He

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Speaker 1: went to Atlanta, thanks for the called Scott Man. He

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Speaker 1: changed the way I thought about him. You know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he helped him lose that Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: He's a part of it. But Kyle Shanahan has came

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Speaker 1: up through the ranks and he's earning my respect. Man,

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Speaker 1: and he's winning in spite of his quarterback, his quarterback

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Speaker 1: and his quarterback throwing some bad balls. Bro, you watched

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Speaker 1: him in that game, his quarterback throwing some bad balls. Now,

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Speaker 1: I didn't watch the second half. I'll go back and

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Speaker 1: watch it, but that first half, I'm like, he was

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Speaker 1: all over the place. I mean, but anyway, back to

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, I mean, you can call Jason what you

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Speaker 1: want to call them, sir. Uh, I'm gonna wait because

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00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: ten and six ain't gonna get it this year, fellas.

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00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: I'm being honest. Ten and six ain't gonna get it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's say go to let's say go to the NFC

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Speaker 1: Championship game and win that thing that's on the way.

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Speaker 1: And if you're talking about Super Bowl, then you I agree.

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Speaker 1: It's been ten years and I've been I've never said

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Speaker 1: nothing about Jason. We've done this show what three years now?

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Speaker 1: Never heard me said anything about Jason. But if you

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Speaker 1: got the tools, and I'm talking about the tools with depth,

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Speaker 1: which we all agree we have. Uh, these games like this,

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Speaker 1: either your quarterback are collectively your coaching staff has to

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Speaker 1: win one of these games. And I just believe that.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question because you you been

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Speaker 1: very vocal about other coaches in the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: h example being Sean Payton and Bill Belichick, and even

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Speaker 1: more than I have saying that those guys are good

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Speaker 1: for at least three wins in the season. So if

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Speaker 1: you had to say, if you were a betman, and

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Speaker 1: you know that you are, but if you were a

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Speaker 1: betman and you will put your jelly beans on the table,

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Speaker 1: you are no, Mama gross Yeah, you put the jelly

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Speaker 1: beans on the table. And you had to say, could

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett on his coaching merit alone, his coaching skills,

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Speaker 1: his coaching ability, his coaching acremen, on all the things

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Speaker 1: surrounded by coaching, if there had to be one game

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Speaker 1: for his team to go to the big Game, do

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Speaker 1: you think he will be able to out coach another

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Speaker 1: coach to victory. No coach Peterson, no Peyton, No I don't.

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Speaker 1: That's the respect that got. So I'm just saying, where

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Speaker 1: but where are these guys you've mentioned? Where are you

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Speaker 1: at as far as Jason Garrett being able to coach

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Speaker 1: himself to do it? This integrate, this is the year.

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00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: This team is never And maybe I'm speaking out of

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Speaker 1: turn and repeating what the owners. Both owners had said

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Speaker 1: both the provost personality, this is the best team top

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Speaker 1: to bottom positions one, two, and three that they've had

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Speaker 1: in the last six to seven. But what I'm asking

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Speaker 1: you is, if all things being equal, with the talent

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Speaker 1: on the field, or your offense and defense or the

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Speaker 1: opposing team offensive defense, all things being equal on that front,

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Speaker 1: what what is your comfortability with saying this game will

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Speaker 1: be one? From the sideline, this game will be one,

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00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: and from the booth, from the headset, how do you

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00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: feel about your coach taking this team and out coaching

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Speaker 1: someone with all things being equal on the field? Star

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Speaker 1: and see, this is what I'm saying. You can get

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Speaker 1: it in a in a bad way. They're in that

525
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: bad way. We open the show, open the show saying

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Speaker 1: this is what has to happen this from this point on.

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00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: Coach Garrett got to be almost perfect to get his

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Speaker 1: troops going. This is this is where we got. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna see not only him and his players, but this

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00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: new falls right in his lap. Right, you are three

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Speaker 1: and two, you have lost the two NFC opponents. You're

532
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: going against a weaker team, the Jets. You gotta beat them.

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Speaker 1: You gotta beat them clean. I ain't talking about a

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Speaker 1: bunch of penalties. Ain't talking about starting slow. I'm talking

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00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: about going out, being right and being methodical, not getting

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Speaker 1: on the only thirty seven twice, coming away with no points,

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Speaker 1: getting on the forty one to get them away with

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Speaker 1: no points, getting down there till the twenty, coming away

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Speaker 1: with no points. That's to me. Yes, your players are

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00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,239
Speaker 1: playing the game, but your coach has got to come

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Speaker 1: up with something to get him over that home. This

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Speaker 1: is this falls totally on coach Garrett, you think, but

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00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: that Packers loss was more coaching problem or execution. Talked

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00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:14,959
Speaker 1: about that part of coaching. Okay, your offense, your defense, Okay,

545
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: they gave up the ghosts early, but you were still

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at it now, you were still on the

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Speaker 1: thirty seven twice. You know. Now I'm talking about on

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Speaker 1: the thirty seven first and ten. You couldn't devise something,

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Speaker 1: get you four or five more yards to get at

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00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: Lisa's trial field goal. What they do at the thirty

551
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: seven they petered out, got got flags, got that execution. Execution.

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Speaker 1: I think I think it's a combination of both. And

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Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, you can and

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00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: I know Jason Garrett. I played for him. I've been

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00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: around here for as long as he's been here, right,

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00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: and so I know that he's teaching. You know, he

557
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: hates pre snap penalties, he hates post snap penalties, he

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00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: hates penalties in general. You always hear him saying he

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00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: got t shirts made the ball, the ball, the ball,

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00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 1: protect the ball. Right, none of those things happen. Do

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00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: your job, Amara Cooper, do your job. You're gonna get

562
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: paid a lot of money. Catch to football. Okay, I'm

563
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: looking right now, fucking right now at what you're saying.

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00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: They was on the it was on the thirty eight.

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Speaker 1: That's when the when the thing happened. That's when your

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00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: boy dropped the ball. Okay, they went out and score man.

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00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: And so my thing is is that when you talk

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00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: about coaching, here's where I think that they were incompetent.

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Speaker 1: You went into this game again the Saint, the first

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00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: time you've done this guessing, hoping that ken Fleman could

571
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: hold up. You can't do that. You have to go

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Speaker 1: in there and say here's the plan. We're gonna go

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Speaker 1: in and give him help right now, and then if

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Speaker 1: we feel that he doesn't need it, we take it

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Speaker 1: away and they wait too long to see. And now

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Speaker 1: what's happened is you got the pressure that's not set right.

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00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: He's thinking about other things the pocket, like the even

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00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: if you don't get the sack on a quarterback, if

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Speaker 1: I'm making him speed up his mechanics, if I'm making

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00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: him take his eyes from down the field, and if

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00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 1: I'm making him not being able to allow routes to develop,

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00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: the defense has won. And constantly you saw the pressure

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Speaker 1: coming from those ends, constantly being pushed back into the

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Speaker 1: lap of Dak Prescott, and you still refuse to give

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00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: that man help. That that to me is the incompetent

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00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: part when it comes to coaching. That's to me when

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00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: Jason Garret got to look over the Mark Colombo and say, hey,

588
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: we're giving you help. We're giving Ken Flement help at Kellen,

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00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: getna tight in over there, get a back over there.

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00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: I don't well, I don't care what formation you call.

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00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,479
Speaker 1: Give him some help. And then you kept calling five

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00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: and seven step routes, seven step drop routes. He can't

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Speaker 1: hold up for that long. So that's where I go

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00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: back to the end competence on the coaching side of things. No,

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00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: I know Jason Garrett is coaching no pre snap penalties.

596
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: I know Jason Garrett is saying protect the football line

597
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: number one. He says that all the time line number one,

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00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: protect the football because you know, the more you turn

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00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: it over, your winning percentage drops significantly every single time

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00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: he turn it over. So I know he's teaching that.

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00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 1: I know that they're teaching, you know, be gat responsible.

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00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: That stuff is being taught by Richard, and that stuff

603
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: is being taught. Now those guys have to go out

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00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: to execute it. But there's certain things like, all right,

605
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: now that they've gassed a whole bunch of time of

606
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: the middle of the field, maybe we need to start

607
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: to do changing something up. What's the dynamic on the

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00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 1: sideline then, because I'm I'm seeing, you know, Kellen Moore's

609
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: calling all the offensive plays and Christian Shard or Marinelli

610
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: is calling the defensive plays, and so they're the ones

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00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: that are have the game plan. And then you know

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00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: you've got Colombo made with the offensive linement. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how does and realize in the end it all filters

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00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: up to the Garrett, But how does he managed the

615
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: game when he's got other people calling the game against well,

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00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: he's he knows the game plan. He's a part of

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00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: the game planning process. He's in every single offensive game

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00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: planning meeting like that. He's an offensive coach. Like even

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00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: when Wade Phillips was our head coach, Wade Phillips spit

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00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: majority of his time in the defensive meetings because that

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00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: was his wheelhouse, that's what he knew, well, that's what

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00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: he was attached to. So he would go in there

623
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Speaker 1: to give his input, to give his thought process, to

624
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: give to see what's happening on the defense. Same thing

625
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: with Jason Garrett. He's an offensive minded coach. So he's

626
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: not gonna spend much time down there with Christia Sharton,

627
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli. He's gonna he's gonna allow them to do

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00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: what they do best, and he's going to go and

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Speaker 1: where he knows where he can be more of an asset,

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00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: and so he knows exactly what's happening. No game Kellen

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Speaker 1: Moore about writing up a game plan, and it ain't

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Speaker 1: going past Jason Garrett. And at some point in time,

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Speaker 1: as the head coach, even though you're not calling the

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Speaker 1: plays and I'm doing my radio podcast air quotes, you

635
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Speaker 1: have to come to Kella Moore or someone and go, hey,

636
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Speaker 1: let's get let's get this. Got some help. You're still

637
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Speaker 1: the head coach. You still can veto all of everything

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Speaker 1: you hear. Here is this headset off. You hear every

639
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Speaker 1: play that's going in. You know every formation, you know

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Speaker 1: every every design, every motion, everything, you know everything that

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Speaker 1: happens offensively. So at some point time you gotta go

642
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Speaker 1: and at the end of a quarter a half of

643
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Speaker 1: officers on the sideline, Hey, guys, here's what we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do from here on now. We're gonna give camp plumbing

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Speaker 1: a little bit of help, especially at least when we

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Speaker 1: go in five and seven step drops. Okay, they went

647
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Speaker 1: down the second series after the Marii Cooper interception. They

648
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Speaker 1: go all the way down in this first and ten

649
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Speaker 1: on the thirty four. First thing he did was a

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Speaker 1: waggle of his own thirty seven. It did a waggle

651
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Speaker 1: and they got three yards. Zeke I mean Dak ran

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Speaker 1: out of bounds on the waggle. Then next time they

653
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Speaker 1: handed the Zeke for no game in the next play

654
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Speaker 1: was a sack thirty seven. Right, we talked about that

655
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Speaker 1: thirty seven with two premier pass rushers. Right now, count.

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Speaker 1: Now go back and count thirty seven. Now go back

657
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Speaker 1: and count his drop. How many tep was his drop

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Speaker 1: at all? No? That was they defense played very well. Everybody.

659
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Speaker 1: Everybody was covered. Everybody was covered. He's in shotguns, you know,

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Speaker 1: and he drifted towards again again he's already in shotgun.

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Speaker 1: So he's five yards back. He takes two more steps,

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Speaker 1: he's seven yards back. The ball has to come out.

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Speaker 1: Stop calling plays and then look they're in what they

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Speaker 1: were an empty backfield. Yeah, you're saying they're an empty backfield.

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Speaker 1: You're saying, ken't flemy, you got you gotta guard the

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Speaker 1: best guy on their team one on one. Good luck

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Speaker 1: you think that ain't looking out there saying and fifty

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Speaker 1: five get the sack. So you don't have enough time

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Speaker 1: to allow the thing to develop down the field because

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Speaker 1: you it's a seventh step drop, right, So offensively, if

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Speaker 1: I have a seventh step drop, even out of the shotguns,

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Speaker 1: five plus two. If five a seven step drop, you

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Speaker 1: know what that means for a receiver that my route

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Speaker 1: is going to be plus twelve yards because it's don't

675
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Speaker 1: need to do a five steps five seven step drop

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Speaker 1: for slant. The math doesn't equal up the quarterbacks drop

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Speaker 1: is in line with the receiver's debt. Three steps, three

678
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Speaker 1: step drop. Shorter routes five step drops. You can't do

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Speaker 1: stop stop. We got to get to the phone. Are

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Speaker 1: we take a last break? Phil? Laugh? Yet you still there?

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Speaker 1: I know that's a long distance call from South Louisiana.

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Speaker 1: You there, it's total free call. Man, I'm still here. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, welcome to the show man. Hey, long time

684
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Speaker 1: in a while. Um listen, you're a Duke fan. Two. No,

685
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Speaker 1: I'm playing? Sorry, no, no, I'm yeah, um my QUI,

686
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Speaker 1: I'll be quick. I've been here in the term. They've

687
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Speaker 1: been shooting themselves in the foot for two book games now.

688
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Speaker 1: And my question is, and you've been talking a little

689
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Speaker 1: bit about coaches responsibility, Jason's responsibility. Jesse's talked a lot

690
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Speaker 1: about it already. But where does the idea of the

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Speaker 1: concept of shoot yourself in the foot start? Does it

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Speaker 1: start in practice? Does it start during the game, Because

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Speaker 1: it seems like as a trend developed, say, for instance,

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Speaker 1: after the Amari play on Sunday, it's like things kind

695
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: of went down here from there, because it's almost like

696
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Speaker 1: a disease infected them, you know, So where does it

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Speaker 1: begin with with players self motivating themselves and are not

698
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Speaker 1: doing enough of it or not enough coaching before the

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Speaker 1: game and game preparation. That's my question. Thanks for the call, Jesse.

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Speaker 1: Jesse just you know, said that, you know he's been

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Speaker 1: in practices with Jason. He does great preparation. And you

702
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: look at this film and you'll see why the Cowboys

703
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: have good plays. They have solid plays then then but

704
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: they had that one bad play, you know, with somebody

705
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Speaker 1: do something wrong, uh penally pops up, you know. And

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Speaker 1: this is what I feared out of all of this

707
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Speaker 1: youth is that this is where and I'm not putting

708
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Speaker 1: nothing on no players, but when your core stars, your

709
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Speaker 1: players that you've paid the money, are the guys that's

710
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: kind of messing up. That's you can't have that that.

711
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Speaker 1: You cannot have drop passes, you cannot have fumbles, you

712
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 1: cannot have your studs messing up. I mean, the other

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Speaker 1: guys are following, are following, so their hope, believe it

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Speaker 1: or not, the hope rise in their teammates. And when

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Speaker 1: you and when you know I got you can go

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Speaker 1: over there to a man and said, man, when zeke on,

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Speaker 1: you ought to see that that team. When Zeke is

718
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: hot and on you you've been on the sideline. You

719
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. Justice play Kirk, go

720
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Speaker 1: to the game and I'm serious, go to I'm serious

721
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Speaker 1: when and I go to the game and I hope

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Speaker 1: they win the game. Watches when Zeke is on fire,

723
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Speaker 1: or when witness Caughton called an early touchdown pass, or

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Speaker 1: when Dak is feeling really watch them guys, just the spirits.

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Speaker 1: Just go and in the same token, you can come

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Speaker 1: back on the sideline after you just on the interception.

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Speaker 1: Who's who's gonna Who's gonna pump you up? You know?

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Speaker 1: You know it's round the car. It's all right. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: On being hunted, you know with Troy through Intercess, we

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Speaker 1: all kind of just got down in the corner chill,

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Speaker 1: you know, and say, hey, let's make sure we do

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Speaker 1: an eye y'all know what you're saying. Brother, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: see y'all gotta tell me I'm not I'm not there.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you. When I played, see if something bad

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Speaker 1: my I had my Aligneman brothers. You know, but we

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Speaker 1: want the stud Studs was Michael Michael rally of a fumper, Emma, Emma.

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Speaker 1: They rather but when they did, you know, they consoled

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Speaker 1: in one another because they were they were the studs,

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Speaker 1: you know. So your your your core players. They they

741
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Speaker 1: have to be perfect. And I'm i'm I'm, I'm being honest.

742
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Speaker 1: You you have to be perfect because that's who motivates

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Speaker 1: the rest of the guys. You know, when things are

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Speaker 1: going bad. I mean that, just tell me how it

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Speaker 1: was when you play No. But but that goes back

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Speaker 1: to my point I was saying earlier, you need your

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Speaker 1: studs to do what studs stuff. Yeah, I need a

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Speaker 1: Mari my stud to not to not have that that pass,

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Speaker 1: that pass hit him in the hands. And this I

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Speaker 1: need my studds to say, I need my stuffs to

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Speaker 1: do what they do. Like I can't again, I can't

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Speaker 1: afford for you. We're coming to you a lot that

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Speaker 1: we're gonna use you a lot. I can't. I can't

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Speaker 1: have you. I can't have two of my biggest guys

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Speaker 1: having two of the biggest mess ups. Because now we're

756
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Speaker 1: looking around and we're well, hell, who is the name?

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00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: These two jokers can't get it done. We ain't got

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Speaker 1: a chance. You know what, We ain't got a chance

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Speaker 1: if we don't take a break, because Kyle's will shut

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Speaker 1: My question is when it comes to coaching, all these

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Speaker 1: We see the same thing. Is it coaching kind of

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Speaker 1: But then you have everybody else. Right, I don't think

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Speaker 1: coach Garrett is a bad coach? Could he is he

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Speaker 1: an elite coach? No, he's not not right now? Could

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Speaker 1: he be there? I don't know. But what do you

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Speaker 1: do he's he's a good coach. Do you just get

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Speaker 1: rid of him and replace him with another good coach?

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Speaker 1: It's like quarterbacks, they you're you have a handful that

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Speaker 1: that's calling for every year, fire Garrett, fire gear. I

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Speaker 1: get it as a fan, but what do you what

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Speaker 1: do you do? Let me go first, okay, and I'll

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Speaker 1: keep saying this. This is the first time that you

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Speaker 1: have you two guys have heard me say this, build

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Speaker 1: a team that could get you ten wins, and and

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Speaker 1: you went the bad times. Even even with these bad

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Speaker 1: times that we're in right now, I think we should

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Speaker 1: get ten wins. Now. If you get eleague players and

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Speaker 1: you've been consistently winning them team games, what do you

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Speaker 1: do as a coach? Now? That is where Jason add

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Speaker 1: us with me, what do you We got the ten

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Speaker 1: wins last year, we should get the ten wins this year. Now,

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Speaker 1: what do you do with these players? You know? And Okay,

840
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: and I'm being honest, I don't care that you got

841
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator. I really really don't care. Let's perform.

842
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: I don't care. One person can make a difference, like

843
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan did for No for Atlanta for Atlanta and

844
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: then went to San franc I do understand that. But

845
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: you did not put in a whole new offense. You

846
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: just added movement. So this is the year. If I've

847
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: ever seen a year out of all of these years,

848
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 1: it ain't. Oh it's two thousand and thirteen. They won

849
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: then the two thousand. No, this is a good team

850
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: with with with with guys that should know better. Why

851
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 1: is Vanderest missing tackles? Why is Jalen missing tackles even

852
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: though they're running over the home? Why? Coaches gotta the

853
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: coaches gotta find out a reason. My job as a

854
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: coach is, hey man, what are we missing here? So

855
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: you gotta be talking to your stuff. When you got

856
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: stud players as a coach, you ain't like me and Jesse.

857
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: They told us what to do when you are stud

858
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: do you act? What what are you seeing? What are

859
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: you thinking? What made you do that? That is what

860
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: you with all these guys. You went out and paid

861
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: a bunch of money for a lot of players that

862
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: either got great potential or in the midst of their potential,

863
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: and by performing up to their potential, now it's time.

864
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: It's time to make things happen. That's why you've heard

865
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: me say against them, against the Saints and against Green Bay.

866
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: You should be at a point now where the coach say, hey, man,

867
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: what do we need to do? What are you seeing?

868
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: That's why I'm asking about Dad. What do you mean like, Yeah,

869
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: you don't think our studs are playing up? They're meeting

870
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: they're not meeting expect And somehow somewhere to coach, the

871
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: head coach is involved and got to get that going. Bro,

872
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: don't don't don't you think? Okay? The question I got

873
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: for you and you and you is is this not

874
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:52,919
Speaker 1: a solid, hard nosed athletic team is it not? Because

875
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: if you feel that way, then Jason ain't. What is

876
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: he coaching a bunch of duds? That's what I felt

877
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: he was every other year up until last year. I said, man, this, this,

878
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: this has got to make us to be something special.

879
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: That's how I felt. A couple people like you know

880
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: brought us that. Man, you never see anything about Jason.

881
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: That's your friend, that's your coach. Y'all used to play

882
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: with it. No, No, when I when I feel at

883
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 1: this time, I'll say something. I don't bite my song

884
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: and back up when I'm right. Do you believe that

885
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: this team is better than ten wins? I believe that

886
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: this team is better than ten wins because ten wins

887
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 1: ain't doing nothing for you, and eleven can do something

888
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 1: for you. So now that puts the head that starts

889
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: with Jason to your coordinators, to your position coaches, then

890
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: to your players. You gotta find a way to motivate

891
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: these guys. And I'm I'm quite sure or players should

892
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: motivate themselves and dot out of this and got out there. Okay,

893
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: we're don't motivated, Zeke. We don't motivated. Jaymen, were don't motivated. Collins,

894
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: were don't motivated. This guy and that guy it's called

895
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: fifty million him thirty million, now sixty. Now we don't

896
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: motivated you. Now we gotta get in your heads and

897
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: find out what's gonna push you over the top, do

898
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: you think, Jess, I want Kurt the answer, since that

899
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 1: cut you off last time. Now, see, I wonder. The

900
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 1: reputation I've always gotten from Garrett, and this is obviously

901
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: from the outside, is that he's a pretty good motivator.

902
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like even in the down years,

903
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 1: the guys wanted to play for him. But he's got

904
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: a reputation of not being a great game manager. Can

905
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: you win like that? No? Can you have a guy

906
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: that can keep the troops rallied and playing and then

907
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: rely on coordinators or whatever to keep No? No, no, no,

908
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: you know, Kurt, you I don't. I don't care what

909
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: nobody say. It's gonna come a time or point in

910
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: the game. And I've seen it with Jimmy. I've seen

911
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,479
Speaker 1: it with Coach Lamder not so much because he wasn't

912
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: vocal in front of the players to his coaches as

913
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: Jimmy was. You know, I've seen Jimmy say why did

914
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: you do that to that player? I've seen him look

915
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: one of his best boys and I said, why did

916
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: you put him in knowing he couldn't do that. That's

917
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,439
Speaker 1: a head coach that truly coached his positions coaching coach.

918
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: Johnson coached his coordinators, which in turn coached his position coaches,

919
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 1: which in turn coached his players. But when coach needed

920
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: to speak up, he would call us up and speak

921
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 1: up as a whole, call out the individual every nine

922
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 1: and then, depending on the situation. But he believed in

923
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: you that you knew what when you told hey, this

924
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: guy can't do this, he get him in on the pattern. Coach,

925
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: he ain't touch him. Why would you put him in there?

926
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: So this is where Jason, there's some disconnect there between

927
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not over there. I'm telling you

928
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: from sitting in this seat, this is the best team

929
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: for consecutive years I've seen us have and injuries not

930
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: gonna change how I feel. And that's just to the

931
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: quarterback Injuri is not gonna change how I feel. Uh,

932
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: And losing games definitely gonna make me say what in

933
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: the world is going on? And I ain't panicking because

934
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: you can go on a eight game run and we

935
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: won't be talking about none of this. Right. Well, do

936
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: you think, Jesse, I think when you look at the

937
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: head coach and we talked about a bunch of good

938
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: head coaches. When you look at Jason Garrett, one of

939
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: the first couple of things you name off a bottom,

940
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: what is he good at? What did you say? Well,

941
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 1: you said he's a motive minor standing was he's a motivator? Right? Okay,

942
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: what else is a good at? Well again, just from

943
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: the outside, he seems like a good communicator, but I

944
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: don't cool communicator. What is he good at? Nothing? Right now?

945
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: For me, I'm being on and I make this point

946
00:55:52,520 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: is is that because you list motivator, communicator, uh, practice manager, right,

947
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: all these things, then you get you don't get to man,

948
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 1: he's a damn good action those coach. It's tell about

949
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: five or six. This is a head coach. This has

950
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: to be up top. When you talk about Sean Payton,

951
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: we talk about it's about him being a motivator. Was

952
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: about Bill Bunt talk him about the motivator. We'll talk

953
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: about he's dad good coach and you know he knows

954
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: how to do X, Y and Z. Get the players

955
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: that are the great coaches. The first couple of rungs

956
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: when you start talking about them, it's stuff that I

957
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: actually have to do with on the football on the

958
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 1: football field, stuff Sean Paytonball. He could show up designsome plays,

959
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: but he could show up get guys to position to play.

960
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: Bill bucks Man, he could show put players to position

961
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: to do X Y and Z man. Andy Reid. That

962
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 1: boy can call an offense. Now you may not do

963
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: it in the playoffs, but good coaches, you start talking

964
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,959
Speaker 1: about what they do on the field and their first

965
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: couple of things. For Jason, it doesn't come to way

966
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: down here. He's so it needs to be almost reverse. Yes, yes,

967
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: being a motivator is fine. Okay, it's good. But when

968
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: we start talking about a head coach, especially one who

969
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: was the quote unquote offensive geez when he started this

970
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: got him the job, That got him the job. So

971
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: when you start talking about those type of things, when

972
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: you I want to hear first that man, this Joe

973
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: could put together a game plan. Oh boy, he could show.

974
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: He showed him make adjustments, He's showed how to get

975
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: players that visiting to succeed. We don't hear about that.

976
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: If there's a if there's a list of ten things

977
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: about this and Garrett, we don't get to that part.

978
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: To buy six, seven, eight nine. We list all these

979
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: other intangibles that are good they are fine. Yeah you

980
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: might those are They're helpful, But at the end of

981
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: the day, what matters. How do I get my Jimmy's

982
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:41,919
Speaker 1: and Joe's to get these xnos together to beat your team?

983
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: Can you this far into a career? Can you change that?

984
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: Or are you are? You are who you are? And

985
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: that's who he is. That's why this offense has been

986
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: so stagnant for all those years because this is what

987
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: he knows. This is now, this is what he knows

988
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: how to run, this is how he knows how to do.

989
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: And the problem him is is that a lot of

990
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: those people and a lot of those coaches who failed

991
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: to adapt, who failed to be able to either change

992
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: their way of thinking and the way that they do things,

993
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: they fail and you die out. Either either you learn

994
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: how to change and adapt to the way the culture

995
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: is changing in the game is changing, or you be

996
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: able to hire somebody in there that can do it

997
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: for you, or you die your Netflix or your Blockbuster exactly,

998
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: your Sears or your Amazon. And the reason I say

999
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,959
Speaker 1: I can't rank Jason is because he took himself out.

1000
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: He took himself out as an offensive coordinator. And see

1001
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: an our Gy example you took yourself out and you

1002
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: couldn't perform Kerk. Let me say so, Let me say

1003
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: ago pissingnd Off. No no, no, no, no, no, no no,

1004
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: that was a great question. I don't care what missus

1005
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: Jones asked me to do. If I'm the head of

1006
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: football coach of this team. When things go bad, I

1007
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: see and I'm not asking him to be Belichick, and

1008
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm not asking to be Sean McVay. I might be

1009
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: who you are, Jason. I respect you as a man,

1010
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: and I'll get that out of the way. Well, when

1011
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: something go bad, you see Belichick back that's sitting on

1012
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: that d on, that on a water cooler with his

1013
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: devins according to and they're drawing up things. Okay, when

1014
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: things are going back, you see Sean Payton. You ain't

1015
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: seen this in a lot of years consistent. You see

1016
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: what Sean Payton doing. He got that chart up in

1017
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: front of him and he made his quarterbacks, both of them,

1018
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: put on put on things. As a head coach, what

1019
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: your strengths should never go away. Your strengths should never

1020
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: go away. He was supposed to be in this genius.

1021
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: It ain't nowhere in the world. I'm not looking at something.

1022
00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 1: Hey man, this play here too, Coach, I'll be up

1023
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: and this kid, I would because you have the players,

1024
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: and I would repeat what mister Jones said after that game,

1025
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: and he was it ain't a lot of times that

1026
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: he gonna get that serious, serious look. And two things

1027
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: gonna stick in my mind. He say, we have the players,

1028
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: the talented saying we have the talent said then he

1029
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: turned around and said, fortunate for us, these guys don't know. Quit. Okay,

1030
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: if you had the talent and these guys don't know,

1031
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: quit what's missing here? And you change every other coaching

1032
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: listening before, in your in your in your ten years here,

1033
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: every other coaching mission has been changed except one. I

1034
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: just think and we said when I said, when we

1035
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: walked out of this dough and I said, here, Jason,

1036
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: you know and people say you put your stamp on

1037
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: the game and be you know, every loss is gonna

1038
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: be blamed on you anyway. Every win is going to

1039
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: calla Moore. So guess what I'm I'm gonna make sure

1040
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: it's me. I'm gonna make go down swinging. Yeah, That's

1041
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: how I feel because we are Cowboys fans until and

1042
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm talking about I'm a fanatical Cowboys fan, especially off

1043
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: this air. Everything every fan is thinking. Man, he lost

1044
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: cost to Jason, whether he said one player or not.

1045
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: So you know what, I'm gonna make processional reality if

1046
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm Jason, because he does have offensive mind. But like

1047
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: I said earlier, he took itself out. He took itself out.

1048
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: I gotta take us out because I gotta get on

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Speaker 1: a call, Kurt, thanks for bringing it, Jesse. Great show today, guys,

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Speaker 1: good stuff. Just a participant. Thanks for bringing Thanks for

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Speaker 1: participating than they keeping us on the air. Wafts, You'll

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Speaker 1: never be with Jesse. Stay away from the show. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back tomorrow with Cowboys Offense, Jets Defense, Hanging with

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Speaker 1: the Boys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys football Clubs.