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Speaker 1: M Hey, welcome to another one here. It's Bobby and

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Speaker 1: I'd say what happened before we roll back to Dave

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Speaker 1: Barnes Bobby Cast. That happened just a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 1: When you ever hear this? But I really like his

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Speaker 1: new album And sometimes i'd say most of the time

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Speaker 1: now people come to us and say, hey, can we

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Speaker 1: get on the podcast? And we go cool, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: we sometimes I have to schedule them out now. But

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Speaker 1: with Dave and I said, hey, I love this album.

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Speaker 1: Is there anyway we get Dave Barnes to commit and

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Speaker 1: he agreed to and so for me, it was really cool.

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Speaker 1: Can you hear me geeking out a bit in this?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, this is Dave Barnes and thank the Life

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Speaker 1: Block who sponsored it. We do have David Lee Murphy

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Speaker 1: coming up, so that one's gonna be cool. I ever

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Speaker 1: recorded that one yet, but David Lee Murphy obviously Dust

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Speaker 1: on the Bottle and he has a new song too,

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Speaker 1: and he's just written tons of songs as well. But

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Speaker 1: I just sign enjoyed this one here with Dave Barnes,

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Speaker 1: and I hope you like it and tell your friends

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Speaker 1: about the Bobby Cast if they like songwriting or if

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Speaker 1: they like these artists, you know, we could spend a

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Speaker 1: lot of time. So from my house here we go

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Speaker 1: up to the one oh five with musician, song writer,

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Speaker 1: real fun guy comedian Dave Barnes. Everybody, all right, Dave

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Speaker 1: Barnes red, this is the greatest intro music all the time.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't even know, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's something. Yeah, you can just it's all there. It's

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Speaker 1: the podcast, It's it's all there. It's ready good. I'm great.

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Speaker 1: I was first of all, I was wondering if about

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Speaker 1: you wear pants, And this is what I was thinking

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Speaker 1: about before you came over. It was it's my house.

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Speaker 1: You can do whatever. Cannot wear shorts or sweats or pants.

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Speaker 1: And I did put on pants. Yeah, I appreciate that

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Speaker 1: I have the same bait because we get a lot

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Speaker 1: of uh people I don't know that well something I

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Speaker 1: know really well, some older men, some you know Daniel

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Speaker 1: just I guess you have to wear clothes for the

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Speaker 1: old cut short rebos, but I did, and I did

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Speaker 1: put on pants for you. But I didn't have a

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Speaker 1: whole long thought today. Dave Barnes is. Here's a couple

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Speaker 1: of reasons I brought him in. One because I'm a fan,

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Speaker 1: but too when I heard you new record, I said, oh,

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Speaker 1: we gotta get Dave Barnes in. Well it's kind of

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Speaker 1: it means a lot, Yeah, because it is. It's so good.

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Speaker 1: I sent it to friends and said, hey, dude, that's

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Speaker 1: that's really kind. So we'll come back to it in

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Speaker 1: a second. But who knew it would be so hard

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Speaker 1: just to be myself, which I was also the name

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Speaker 1: of the record. I don't know. It's in front of me.

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Speaker 1: There's just two minute, about twenty seconds into this song.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna love this whole lot. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not blowing smoke, thank you. It's just too manness.

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Speaker 1: They're horns in. It's got kind of Chicago meats, okay,

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Speaker 1: James Taylor vibe. He's when I was hearing does that

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Speaker 1: bother of people compare to other people? Know, it's a

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Speaker 1: huge compliment. It's better than the opposite, which is which

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Speaker 1: is like, um, well that's different. That was different. Dave,

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Speaker 1: you sounded excited, Well, you really did it. That's what

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Speaker 1: I worry about because I've just finished my second book,

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Speaker 1: and it's terrible. You editor just readlines the whole thing,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm done. I hope I'm done, but I

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Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. I give the project with

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Speaker 1: lot to say. How about that? Look at all those words?

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Speaker 1: How about how about that? You know it's it's funny.

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Speaker 1: I'm thirty and I'm gonna be I'm gonna need forty

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Speaker 1: in gin And so I feel like, um, my career

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Speaker 1: I'm around the most fit, like coolest people, and I'm

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Speaker 1: through my outfits like that doesn't match too old, you know,

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Speaker 1: It's like it's not the whole line. It's so for me,

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Speaker 1: anytime I feel like people listen to these records really enjoy,

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Speaker 1: it's such a win because it's like, this is my

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Speaker 1: twelfth album. If you count all of my olds, it's

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Speaker 1: I think my night like non Christmas nan ep, but nine.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of stuff to say. So for me,

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Speaker 1: I'm always like I feel like with everyone I released,

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Speaker 1: that's enough, that's plenty of music this album. For me,

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Speaker 1: I can always tell how much I like an album

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Speaker 1: by how many times I have many songs I save. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So what I'll do is I'll save a full album

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Speaker 1: and then I fly so much. I just listened to it,

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Speaker 1: second time, I'll just swipe it. Yeah, of your twelve songs, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Because also I get confused because I know your wife

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Speaker 1: sings on on one of the songs with you, um,

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Speaker 1: but I think I don't know which. I think I

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Speaker 1: kept eleven of them. That's I will take five four,

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Speaker 1: I'm weird telling people how many songs I kept there

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Speaker 1: just there's so much. And then I started to get

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Speaker 1: bored with everything and go, I've listened to the the same

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Speaker 1: many swiped me? Like and as time goes by, but

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Speaker 1: even the book, I was I'm so over me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my picture on the cover. Yeah. Yeah, they said, hey,

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Speaker 1: we really need to picture on the cover. I think

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Speaker 1: I just spent six months writing about me, looking at me,

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Speaker 1: thinking about me. Let's not even put a cover on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's just put it up just the papers. Yeah, just smile.

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Speaker 1: That's it. I don't even want to cover just page one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but that would actually be pretty that. I thought the

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Speaker 1: I thought, what if the cover was just page one.

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Speaker 1: I think that's I'm endorsing that right now. And it

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Speaker 1: And so after the second time I said it, and

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Speaker 1: it off. The other guy. Yeah, crazy, Yeah, that's not crazy,

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Speaker 1: end you kind of have to find a balance. But

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Speaker 1: these are all the same. Otherwise, what are they seeing

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to look about seven years younger than I

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Speaker 1: really am. Please read my book. That would be the

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Speaker 1: look seven years please, But I really do, like, really sincerely.

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Speaker 1: I love the album, So you don't know what I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: I love it. We'll come back to it. But I

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Speaker 1: I love it. It means a lot. It really does

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Speaker 1: interesting about you is that we we have a similar style,

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Speaker 1: and that we're both self deprecating, we both love music

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Speaker 1: and comedy. The name of your comedy tour, your music

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Speaker 1: I actually need to get some tips from Legitimately, I

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Speaker 1: Soiled Dove, which is maybe one of the most interesting

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Speaker 1: like the just the vibe, you know, which doesn't happen

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Speaker 1: or a slow you know, you can't do it. It's

424
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Speaker 1: the same with comedy, like it needs uh and you know,

425
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Speaker 1: so that's okay. So the other day and like now

426
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Speaker 1: I'm breathing and then okay, and then it needed it.

427
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,119
Speaker 1: And that was hard for me because I was like,

428
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Speaker 1: why is everybody out laugh on? I was like, well

429
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Speaker 1: you can't. It's physically you like, you gotta get to

430
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Speaker 1: the point and then the point be funny. And I

431
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Speaker 1: think to realizing like I was doing Like when I

432
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 1: started doing these, I was doing like an hour and

433
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Speaker 1: a half and my wife came and she was like, Dave,

434
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,360
Speaker 1: I was done by fifty minutes, Like I was tired.

435
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,479
Speaker 1: Like my I was like, because you're so like the

436
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 1: crowd has to engage. It's different than music. You can

437
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Speaker 1: music sort of going by you and you're listening for

438
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,160
Speaker 1: a minute and you turn to your friend and you're

439
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Speaker 1: singing a comedy, you are engaged. And I think for

440
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 1: me it was like I had to learn like how

441
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 1: to do a set because it was, like, you know,

442
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 1: I was literally like I did like an hour and

443
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 1: a half a couple of times, and people are just like, dude,

444
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 1: like that's two shows worth of stuff, and it really wasn't.

445
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Speaker 1: I like at it like they're flexing a muscle the

446
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Speaker 1: whole time, the whole time it Could you hold your

447
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Speaker 1: bicep flexed for an hour and a half from you

448
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Speaker 1: if you had to, probably could maybe, but it's tough

449
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Speaker 1: to do, Like I'm holding mine right now. It's tough,

450
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 1: and so sometimes you have to let the flex go right.

451
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Speaker 1: And so it's I don't want to leave some my

452
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,679
Speaker 1: flexing for hour and thirty minutes, and I don't want

453
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Speaker 1: to get irritated with them for not holding the flex.

454
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Speaker 1: So I keep a clock. You can't see it, but

455
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 1: I keep it underneath my front monitor that tells me

456
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Speaker 1: where I am, because if I'm killing great if I'm not,

457
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Speaker 1: And I also break my show up in my mind too,

458
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: where I come out. I do the first fifteen minutes

459
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: it's straight ahead comedy. I'm I'm not really pounding them

460
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Speaker 1: with the stuff that I feel the real strongest, but

461
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm giving them solid B plus stuff that has proven. Then,

462
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Speaker 1: since I have a guitar and I do music, I'll

463
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Speaker 1: do twelve to fifteen minutes of music, because again, what

464
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Speaker 1: that does it gives him a break. For sure, it

465
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Speaker 1: does give them a break. So I'll do a little

466
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Speaker 1: bit of music. Then what I do after that is

467
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Speaker 1: I go and I work some material for about eight

468
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Speaker 1: to ten minutes, and if none of it works, it's

469
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Speaker 1: like four minutes like if I if if my working

470
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Speaker 1: material is not working, they even starts peeling back and

471
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Speaker 1: real quick. And so then I get back to something

472
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Speaker 1: and then I close and we do you know, I

473
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Speaker 1: bring out like on this tour to be Brandon Ray,

474
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Speaker 1: We'll go, We'll do a couple of musical things together,

475
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Speaker 1: and then I'll do about two minutes of varying by

476
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Speaker 1: myself and that's it. And I find that if I

477
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Speaker 1: break it up and even lets the audience go. Chapter one,

478
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Speaker 1: Chapter two, Chapter I want to watch Chris row in

479
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480
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: to watch him and he did uh two hours in

481
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Speaker 1: eight minutes, dang, and it was awesome. But it was

482
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 1: even too long to see all those. Jerry Seinfeld is

483
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 1: the greatest technical comedian I think of my generation. Chris

484
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Speaker 1: Rock is the best. Just at how his observations on

485
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: culture and it was fantastic. But I was tired at

486
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Speaker 1: two hours, especially someone like him, because he's saying things

487
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Speaker 1: that are profound. Yeah, I mean they're funny, but he'll

488
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489
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490
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491
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492
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Speaker 1: should do shorter sets. Even though he just did two

493
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494
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495
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497
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Speaker 1: you go. Alright, so let's talk about music for a second,

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Speaker 1: because cow uh, let's do what I know you from first,

523
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: which maybe what you made the most money from. I

524
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: don't know. Uh. When Blake Shelton cut God gave me you?

525
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that the biggest meal ticket so far?

526
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: I mean it was so I wrote it by myself

527
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Speaker 1: and I owned all the publishing. Oh wow, So it

528
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Speaker 1: wasn't a publician company like that. It was it was

529
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Speaker 1: a yeah, God was very kind and that. Yeah, this

530
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Speaker 1: was And I didn't know you when Blake came in

531
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: and he goes, hey, this is what happened with the song,

532
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: and he said him and Randy were driving on a road.

533
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: He head he was listening to the country, the Christian station,

534
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: and he hears you sing the song God. So then

535
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: what happens did someone call you and go, hey, Blake

536
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: heard this song and he wants to cut it, or

537
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: Blake's thinking about cutting it? What do you think, like

538
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 1: what happens there with that? Yeah? So so Dave Heywood,

539
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: who I love that you had on the I mean

540
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: loved talk about a smart dude. Oh yeah, holy yeah.

541
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: We don't play words with friends. Um. He his wife

542
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: is Kelly, and Kelly used to work at Warner and

543
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 1: so she's a really good friend of ours. We've known

544
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: Kelly forever way before Dy Dave and uh she called.

545
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: It was kind of the sequence events. So the first

546
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 1: call was like, hey, uh, Blake is her? Guy gave

547
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: me you it maybe in the wedding. And I was

548
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: like oh, and literally it was so out of context me.

549
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: I literally said Blake wo and she was like Shelton. So. Um.

550
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's great, you know. And I

551
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: really wasn't in the world nearly like I am now.

552
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: So I had a lot of friends that were country artists.

553
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Speaker 1: I had a couple of cuts that were totally from

554
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: people just knowing albums, going hey, man, you mind if

555
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: I record this song. I'd never like purposefully tried to

556
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: write for that world. Um, And so it was totally

557
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: out of context. I was like, oh, that's awesome, So

558
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: it's maybe in the wedding. Well then she comes over

559
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: to eat like a month later with us one night,

560
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: my wife and I and she's like, oh, this is

561
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: so random. I think Blake's gonna record. Guy gave me

562
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: you and I it's like, that's awesome, you know. But

563
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: I learned from my Nashville friends like you just never

564
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you never count that before it's hatched,

565
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: because those things can change so much. The family is

566
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: thaying never kind of song before it's yes, that's that's even.

567
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: That's great. So so I was like great. So then

568
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: like again a month later, I pull up to my

569
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: house after writing one day and there's all these cars

570
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: there and I walked into all of my friends and

571
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: nobody knows why we're there. So I'm like, hey, is

572
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: everything okay because my wife was pregnant and they're like, yeah,

573
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, and he just told us to be here,

574
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like okay, And so she and Kelly walk

575
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Speaker 1: out with this little like with some champagne and like

576
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: a cake, and it just said that Blake had decided

577
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: to single it, which I even then I was like,

578
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: this is awesome, but I didn't really understand what that meant.

579
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Speaker 1: So um, so I was like, that's great. And I

580
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: think a lot of a lot of I'll never forget

581
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: Luke Layard. I saw you a couple of days later,

582
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Speaker 1: and who I went to school with frandomly and too,

583
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: but yeah, Jesse, Alexander, there was a bunch of us

584
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Speaker 1: there was like yeah the whole day, Luke's ease me

585
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: and I'll never forget this inn embogo jar ruh Frosty Mike.

586
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: A couple days later, he's like, man, congrats on the single.

587
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: He's like, do you do you understand what that means?

588
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: And I was like what do you mean by that?

589
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: He was like just monetarily and I was like no,

590
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: and he was like, well, you're just it's gonna be

591
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: a fun ride. And I was kind of like, okay.

592
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,239
Speaker 1: You know, so it's a real blessing because I think

593
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: I got to enjoy it from a really just like

594
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: pure unadult traded like it's just fun seeing your song

595
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: being sang by the superstar and the world sort of

596
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 1: respond to it, not sort of like how's it doing

597
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: on the chart? You know, like where are we? Is

598
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: it gonna bullet? You know. I didn't know any of

599
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: that stuff, um, which is kind of why with this

600
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: second one with Thomas, the second single I've ever even

601
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: had in country, when it was a number one, such

602
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: a yeah, it was such a different thing for me

603
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: because I was like, where is it, how's it doing?

604
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 1: You know, I'm texting his manager. You know. It's like

605
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: so it's kind of fun to do both versions of

606
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: that experience because the first one was so I don't know,

607
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: like literally, people would be like, dude, where is it.

608
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: I'd be like, what do you mean? Like on the chart?

609
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't have to think on there.

610
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: I don't really know, you know. So, so it's a

611
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: fun experience to do it this time kind of it was.

612
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: It was a little it was just different, you know,

613
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: because you're watching it and your and you've also had

614
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: some success, and you know what can happen financially You

615
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: get kids, yea mortgage, so you know what has happened.

616
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: You'd like to see it happen again because when you're

617
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: making money doing this, you can create other passion projects.

618
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: So here's Blake doing Scout. So I had no idea.

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00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: That's how the story happened. I think Blake and I knew.

620
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: I guess when did that song come out? Uh? Two?

621
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: These songs can move so fast now, and that was

622
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: that was really fast. I mean that was like a

623
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: fifteen week, thirteen week or something that's extremely fast. It

624
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: was flying. But it's it's wild because I hear it

625
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: and you know you wrote it, and it goes what

626
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: top five on the Christian chart something like that. Yeah, God,

627
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: and when you sing it, I know it's a Christian song,

628
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: but when Blake sings that, it's it's so here. This

629
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: is the This is one of my favorite stories to tell.

630
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: So the condensed version is, um, I just made this

631
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: record called what We Want, What We Get, and um uh.

632
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: I called my This is like the story you've heard

633
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: of many times. I called my producer and I'm like, hey, man,

634
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: I got this extra song I just wrote. I think

635
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: it's pretty calm. I sent it to you, so I

636
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: did like a demo centem guy, get mute. He calls me.

637
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: He's like, I've already booked the band. We're recording it tomorrow.

638
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, so, I guess you like it.

639
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of one of those things. We

640
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: go and we record it. He messed I was on

641
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: the road a ton. Then he messaged with it a

642
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: ton he sent to me and it's like this poppy

643
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: version of it's a version that I put out. But

644
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: I was like, what is this. He's like, dude, I

645
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: really think this thing has legs if you'll let it,

646
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 1: because it had to hook at the and I was like, no, man,

647
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: this is like because we did kind of like a

648
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: band version of yeah. So I was like, I don't know, man,

649
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: So ironically, I just I've been going through this season

650
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: I was I just turned thirty where I was just

651
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: really struggling with like what I was doing and do

652
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: people like what I'm doing where I'm in the industry

653
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: because I've always sort of been, um, the guy that

654
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: didn't have the major record deal, had the indie deal

655
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: and love my career. I wouldn't change anymore. But you know,

656
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: I think in comparison as the f C. S. Lewis

657
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: says so well as the thiefa Joy, and I was

658
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: in a season of that where I was seeing friends

659
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: that were things were happening, and I was just really

660
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: struggling with that, and so I literally just prayed for encouragement.

661
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: That was all I did. That was one word prayer.

662
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: I just felt like, where I just need some encouragement.

663
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 1: And so my manager calls after we record A Guy

664
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: Give You and he's like, hey, man, Christian programmers have

665
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: heard this song and they really like it. And I

666
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: was and I'd never done anything in the Christian world.

667
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: I'd played, you know, some church events and stuff like that,

668
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: and I'm a Christian guy, but I've been really careful

669
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: about that because I just knew, like, that's a tricky

670
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: little thing. If you you know, it can it can

671
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: kind of it can. Yeah, it's a it can be

672
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: a little like quicksand if you aren't careful where they

673
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: kind of grabbed, which is great, but I think for

674
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: where I was playing clubs and bars and all these

675
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: other things, it was tricky. So long story short, my

676
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: version of that was amazing. I went and did radio

677
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: for the first time I ever like, and I loved it.

678
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: I loved it was so much fun sitting talking to

679
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: people and doing ship We're back with the things God

680
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: made me you God made me you did. But so

681
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: it was really fun. But I thought that was the

682
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: answer to prayer. Like so it was one of the

683
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: top spun songs and Christian that year, which was a

684
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: whole new experience for me. And it was literally just

685
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: the beginning of really what it was gonna be. So

686
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: it was this crazy sort of story of this one

687
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: word of prayer that turned into this just massive, massive blessing,

688
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: you know. So it was crazy because I've never done

689
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: CCM and it turned into this thing I didn't know that,

690
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: never would have thought that so what that wasn't the intention? No,

691
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: no being the purpose. Yeah, there was an independent radio

692
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: plugging guy Nashville and he heard and he called us

693
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: music Listen, I really think this thing could have legs

694
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: and seem because it's a love song and it's not

695
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: a Christian song. It is because you know, ultimately it is,

696
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: but it wasn't something where I was like, you know,

697
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: people are gonna be raising their hands of this at

698
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: passion or something. And you know when I heard it

699
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: the first time, it was obviously Blake's version, and I

700
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: never thought this Christian song. I thought this is a

701
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: love song, which is what it is. You track back,

702
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: I go, oh, what has the word God in it

703
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: so much? I mean the first word god. Yeah, I

704
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: don't miss that. So and you mentioned that, Thomas Rhett,

705
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,479
Speaker 1: because you wrote Craving You with one of my favorites,

706
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: Dan write, Dan huff nod. That's that's why you see

707
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: the nicest guy ever in the history of time. I

708
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: just when he did this with me, I just stared listen.

709
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: I just stared at and I would go, oh, I

710
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: was talking, this keeps looking at you, and I think

711
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: the Dan have ted talk. I was just taking it

712
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: in that is the one solo. So he is such

713
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: a sweet, talented even being. So you wrote this one?

714
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: Did you write this with Thomas's manager's boyfriend, Julian, Yeah,

715
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: and I know Julian. I met Julian because he produced

716
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: Thomas's a lot of Thomas's last record of Direction. Yeah,

717
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: and Julian's awesome. He's amazing. British or Australian No, no, no no, no,

718
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: he's from l A. Yeah, he uses I'm from somewhere something, yes, geography,

719
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: cooler than he would pay any accident, and like his hair.

720
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: So you wrote this with him? Yea. And Thomas was

721
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: supposed to be there. That story is so funny. I

722
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: thanked Thomas for this so many times for not showing up,

723
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: but like he was supposed to be there and got sick,

724
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: and so I showed up to Virginia Thomas's manager's house

725
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: where Julian was, and um I walked in. I didn't

726
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: know Julian at all. I've never met him, and he's like,

727
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: hey man, Thomas can't be here. So we had that

728
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: little dance of like so should we go or what

729
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: should we do? Order lunch? And then like hit it.

730
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: I mean all the dates I've ever been on. Yeah,

731
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: but but but yeah, so thankfully we both like, no,

732
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: we should write something. And so one of the advantages

733
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: of obviously writing with the dude's producing something is he knows,

734
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: you know, he's got the intel and he's like, you

735
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: know what, man, he kind of needs like a jam.

736
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: He needs like a and so we we just kind

737
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: of threw on some ideas and he started putting this tracked. Kevin.

738
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: It was just kind of it was I mean, I

739
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: literally think it took us two hours, right, it was

740
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 1: so fast, which is really fast. It's super fast. Yeah,

741
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: and so I kind of thought, well, nothing, you know,

742
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: that's too fast, like you can't write. I mean, I

743
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: loved it, and that's four hours in song, and yeah,

744
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: that's gotta be the house that built me to look like,

745
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: you know, thirty five pounds of writers that. I'm sure.

746
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: But but it was so awesome because Tom's hurt and

747
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: he literally texts me like the next day it was

748
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: like this is what I needed. Thanks cool, And I

749
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: was like, that's the best that's ever worked. You know.

750
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: It was awesome, and I believe it was the first single. Yeah,

751
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, I'm thinking about again. They all start

752
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: to run together, and I think that it's a disservice

753
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: to the artist in the music that they do run

754
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: so fast. Because I worked in pop and hip hop,

755
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: an alternative, and I've done every format and this is

756
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: the format that I liked the most. But what I

757
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: dislike about it is the songs don't have any longevity

758
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: and country as they even do and pop. I was

759
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: looking at the pop chart yesterday and that um do

760
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: Ah do a Leap? Yeah? Yeah, that song has been

761
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: number one from multiple weeks. It's been at the top

762
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: five for fifteen weeks. In the top five, songs earn

763
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: the top and they stay on the top where end

764
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: people will always know her for that song. Thomas Canna

765
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: put out a song and it goes number one, but

766
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: it was so fast that the people may never really

767
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: even care to the hearing again. And that's not top.

768
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: But anybody, even Luke Luke, puts out so many number

769
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: one and you can't even play them all the show.

770
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: They don't resonate. Well, it's the thing. I'm learning this

771
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: and you know this so much better than I do.

772
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: But I think from an outsider looking in the symbiotic

773
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: nature of country music is so fascinating because you know,

774
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: you guys as programmers and DJs, you need the hit

775
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: artist to write hits, but they need you to pro

776
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: it's this program. So it's this wonderful thing because it's like, hey, Thomas,

777
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: we need hits from you, and he goes, well, I

778
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: need you to play these songs. So it's wonderful and

779
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 1: it's to me one of the last bastions of radio

780
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: that's really still working, Like you know what I mean.

781
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: Here's my issue with that though, is that what happens

782
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: is we I say we I'm really not a proponent

783
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: of our radio is being programmed. So I'm so anti

784
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: radio while having the biggest radio show. It's the weird

785
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: like that, that's the whole thing. But what I is

786
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: also weird about it is is that country artists do

787
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: the opposite of what hip hop and pop artists do.

788
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: They won't put out songs like crazy, but then they'll

789
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: put a single out and they'll let it have time

790
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 1: and build while they're putting out all this other stuff

791
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: with their fans. Country has put out a record and

792
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: they just sit back for a year. Then then you

793
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: just wait for another year for how did you put

794
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: a new record because that's the culture of it. Songs

795
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: flapp the chart, but the record just stays out there.

796
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: We're in pop hip hop alternative. They're putting out songs

797
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: all the time, but the big songs stay up there.

798
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: They're so different, and I feel like just a lot

799
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: of songs get lost as forever songs because of that,

800
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. Watch I'm thinking about this well,

801
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: and I think to to your point that there there

802
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: there really is as well. That's not fair. I'm sure

803
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: some musicologist could sit down and be like, that's not true.

804
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: But I do feel like, um, you know that. I

805
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 1: think that's why the songs that are like the really

806
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: big songs that that really tend to be top five

807
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: played songs of the year, they usually have some sentiment

808
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 1: that's a little more substantial, and sometimes they're ballads because

809
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: they actually and the words that people here. It's there's

810
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: the girl crushes, the burning Houses that will always be

811
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: massive songs even if Little Big Town decided to break

812
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: up and never's always gonna be huge. Cam can never

813
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: have another hit, and burning House will always be a

814
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: song that she can play. And that's the thing. It's incredible,

815
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's uh, the whole, the whole situation.

816
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: I'm always fighting about that with no one. Actually, I

817
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: just sit and fighting myself in the room. Yeah yeah,

818
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: I started think, who do I fight with? I just

819
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: yell at it on the radio and nobody answers into

820
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: the vacuum. What about So? How about this? You know

821
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: somebody I really enjoyed a friend of mine as Lucy Silvis.

822
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, she's she's I have I can only

823
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: I'll start like crying and laughing all at the same

824
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: time to talk about I love that woman. She We

825
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: talked about her so much on this podcast. If there's

826
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: not a if there's an episode where she doesn't pop up,

827
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: I go, Wow, something that's missing. But she's somehow lighting

828
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: ourselves into everybody's life because she's so awesome. She's the best.

829
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: And you wrote Villains, She's the She came out and

830
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: open yea and did a bunch of just for me,

831
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 1: and it was it was one of those times where

832
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: I go, man, what's wrong with the world, Like you're

833
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: opening for me? She you know, she she I've told

834
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: her this so many times. She's one of my closest

835
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: friends in Nashville. I mean, I love she's like a sister.

836
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: We're doing around. Actually, when did you guys go out

837
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: together and new shows? Yes, yeah, that's right, you guys

838
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: went out and like I saw you guys in like

839
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: New York. Yeah, yeah. Um. She she is so unbelievably talented.

840
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: She's one of She's one of maybe ten people I

841
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: know that you could put her and I literally meaning

842
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: any club in the world. I don't care if it's

843
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: a hip hop club, I don't care if it's a

844
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: country and western like with the net around. When she

845
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: starts singing, I don't care who the people are. They're

846
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: gonna shut up and listen. And I've watched her do

847
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: that so many times. It's it becomes like this guilty,

848
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: dark pleasure of mine just to watch her get up

849
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: there and just be like, you don't know who you

850
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: know you're about to be will because she's so freaking talented. Uh.

851
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: And I don't know a lot of people. I can

852
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 1: say that about Mark broussarda buddy minds. One of those

853
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: like just voices and presence is that when they start

854
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: to sing, it doesn't matter what you like musically, You're like,

855
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, I think Caitlin Smith does a better. Yes,

856
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: Caitlin is captivating where you go, let me look at

857
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: my wallet? What the That's exactly right. Kate is very

858
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 1: Lucy like to or you just go, WHOA. I don't

859
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: know what they're trying to do, but it doesn't matter.

860
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: Like I'm in whatever they're in, I'm in. And you know,

861
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: that day we wrote Villain was really fun because I

862
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 1: was Mary and it was me and Lucy and Marrin

863
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: that wrote that and you're talking about it. I literally

864
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 1: just sat there. I was like, that's cool. Well you guys,

865
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: you're you're good. You're also really good. That was a

866
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: great moment together that I'm getting to. I mean, it

867
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: was just it was amazing. So the fighting is Man

868
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: actually sang the demo because I kind of worked on

869
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: the track and then would help them write and get

870
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: work and so Maren sang it and within like two

871
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: or three days, Lucy was like, man, like, I love

872
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: the song, guys. Like the next day she's like, I

873
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: mean I keep singing this song, guys, And like the

874
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: you know, third or fourth day out, she's like, are

875
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: you guys cool if I just record this? You know,

876
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: and we're like yeah, but that was like one of

877
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: those days you pinch yourself. We're just like, this is

878
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: I'm getting to watch two people who are just assassins

879
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: at what they do. You know, it was incredible. They

880
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: played another one of your new songs. Here. By the way,

881
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: check out Day's album Who Knew It would be so

882
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: hard to be Myself? It's a very long title, but

883
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: if you can get through the title, you should check

884
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: out the songs. I was like, who knew what? I'll

885
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: come back later. It would be so hard to maybe

886
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: maybe when the acronym it's a big it's a big

887
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: yall VI positive y. What is that? How does that? So?

888
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny. I heard Dave mentioned this

889
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: to uh so do you know the instagram if you

890
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: heard just a million things about the personality test thing

891
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: you mentioned, I haven't done it, basically the ever positive guy.

892
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: And it's just I'm one of those guys that like,

893
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: I'm the same with movies. I'm like, there's so much

894
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: darkness in the world and so much stuff that's just hard.

895
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: Like I like to and sometimes I like music to

896
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: just rip my face off and just beat the crap

897
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: out of me. But you know, a lot of times

898
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: I want to escape, I want to fee I just

899
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: want to be like, how that groove feels greater whatever.

900
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: So I tend to be the guy that's like, let's

901
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: let's offer something new to the world that if you

902
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: just want to listen this and have a good time

903
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: and forget about the craps going on. But you know

904
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: it's funny. I'll tell you. I love your interview with

905
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: John with Mayor, and I thought something you said something

906
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 1: that really influences record. Truthfully, Um y'all's interview was so great,

907
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: and I think John is obviously so wonderful. Uh, but

908
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 1: you know when y'all were talking about um in the Blood,

909
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: it really I started thinking about that song a lot

910
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: when I was when I was kind of in the

911
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: middle of making this record, and I felt the same way.

912
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: And that song, to me is such an important song.

913
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: I was like, that song is genius. It's so good.

914
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: And so I sat down was like, what makes that

915
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: song what it is? And I finally realized, I think

916
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: the reason I would tell someone that needs to listen

917
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: to it or that it's important is because it's vulnerable,

918
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: is because it's saying something that's really like you know,

919
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: it's it's sensitive, it's this is I'm really showing you

920
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: something in me that that I don't show mostly. And

921
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: I think that's what makes a lot of music important,

922
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: is it It has a message that's like needs to

923
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: be heard. And I think a lot of that has

924
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 1: to do with vulnerability. So I was writing this record,

925
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: I had like these positive songs and I was like,

926
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, I haven't ever really let myself go there,

927
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: and literally that interview is a big part of that

928
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: is me going. You know, I'd love to feel like

929
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: this record is something that people don't only go, man,

930
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: we love it, but go you need to listen to

931
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: this because Dave is really saying some stuff. So there's

932
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: a few songs this record that I hadn't written until

933
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: that point, and I think a lot of that was

934
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: from just listening. I'll talk about that song, especially because

935
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: it was really profound to me, Like I was like,

936
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 1: why is that song? Why? Why would I say it's

937
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: such an important song? You know what I mean? What song?

938
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: What's a post that realization song? There's this song especially

939
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: called Chasing Dreams, and that's now that's a jam. It's

940
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: one of those that I picked out is one of

941
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: my favorites. So I put the hook out first. It's like,

942
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: you know, I'm telling this, but I won't stop. I

943
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: admit it ain't then my just my impression of somebody.

944
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: I was listening to a song on my card of

945
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: the day, and you know, I'm lucky enough that I

946
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: created this podcast that I just love of songwriters, and

947
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: so I've been exposed and have met a lot of

948
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: great songwriters and and they all say, you know, it's

949
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 1: all you know, it's about the hook. It's about the hook.

950
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 1: It's about that, you know. And this literal song comes

951
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: on because I have it at the top now of

952
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: my Spotify and you know, Chasing Dree and I'm going, man,

953
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: the that hook is so strong and and and takes

954
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: me back to it that I started actually listening to

955
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 1: the act the words of the because and that song

956
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: for some reason triggered that in me. It goes wow,

957
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: that song and bring me back all the day. It

958
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: was simple, but it was all about the hook, and

959
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: I go, I should listen to the words. Yeah, weird, man,

960
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,959
Speaker 1: you know that song is about oddly enough, No, lie,

961
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: it's basically about me writing. It's when I got my

962
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: pud deal and for the last three four years, how

963
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: hard it's been. This job is like no, I think

964
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: especially for me being an artist writing my basically all

965
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: my stuff by myself for my song. It was like,

966
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: you know how to do that, and it's been great.

967
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: They had some success in whatever, and then doing this

968
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: as a job was just such a just kicked my

969
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 1: face and I was like, why is this not working yet?

970
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: Like seeing your friends and are And I think artistry too,

971
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: is so different because it's so esoteric, like I can't

972
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: compare myself to John or it's hard not to, by

973
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: the way, it's really hard not to. You do you

974
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: get yourself in into potholes. It's almost impossible not to.

975
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: Even though we know we shouldn't, we all still do

976
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: welle to. For me, it was a change from artistry,

977
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: which you can't really compare yourself, like I came up

978
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: right behind like Maras and Mayor and how We Day

979
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: and some of these guys. But I never, like, I

980
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: never have tried to grid myself against those guys. It's impossible.

981
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: They grew up in different places, with different parents, with

982
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: different musicalities, with different influence, so you can't do that.

983
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, you moved to Nashville, you

984
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: start writing for other people, and there is a grid.

985
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: Did you get a cut? No? I didn't. I didn't

986
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: get a cut on that record. Well then okay, did you? Okay,

987
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 1: we gotta cut? Is it a single? It's just it's

988
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: a cut, but it's not. Okay? Well then you that

989
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: guy got the single, that girl that's and it was

990
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: all that I just got so in my head I

991
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 1: was like, first, I think I suck at this too,

992
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: Like why am I so intensely jealous of people who

993
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: have I have deep respect and love for and that

994
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: weird rub of like I love these people, yet I'm

995
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: so mad at their success disappointed in you. That's how

996
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,919
Speaker 1: I am. That I jealous of other people, not because

997
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: of them, but because I'm disappointed in me, angry at

998
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: others because I'm upset that I haven't done before. But yeah,

999
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: this song, the hook is so on and simple to

1000
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: the listener that I go, oh man, so next time,

1001
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: because I I I'm not musical like you at all

1002
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: in anyway, but when I write funny songs, um, I

1003
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: have to go Okay, I can make things simple because

1004
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: I'm all these great songwriters, They're like, what do we

1005
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: need to do? Come back around? And I heard this

1006
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: song and I go, you know, what, does what I

1007
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: need to do? Just make the chords really simple and

1008
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 1: catchy and then the rest of it really matters. Yeah,

1009
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: And I don't even know if what I said makes sense,

1010
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: but this was the song I was thinking about the

1011
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 1: other day. I mean, I'm knee deep into your stuff

1012
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: right now. All the time you would save save same

1013
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: feel breaking, but I won't stop. That might be my

1014
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: favorite song on the record. Thanks, Yeah, I think it might.

1015
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 1: It might be. Did you just sing this song for

1016
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: my children with your wife? Right about? That's your wife

1017
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: right the same last name. I assumed that last It

1018
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: was just the most random. So I don't know the

1019
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 1: story about your wife and she's a singer. No, dude,

1020
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: this whole thing is star Okay, that's why did I

1021
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: story about your wife? So she basically she's someone who

1022
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: come with theres bgvs like it's not featured or anything,

1023
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: but Spotify for some reason when it came up. The

1024
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: night it came up, they put featuring and then like

1025
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: this code it was like zero two underscore seven nine

1026
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: worked it once. He's awesome He's amazing, but he wasn't

1027
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: on this track. He's been an New Zealand for the

1028
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: last year and so so we were all confused, like

1029
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: why does it have this featuring thing? Plus who is

1030
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: who is? What robot is that? So I think what

1031
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: happened is that whoever cleared up was like, oh, it's

1032
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: got this girl on her. I mean so now when

1033
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: you look at the song, it's just with any Barnes

1034
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 1: and she's like, oh, that's not how this was supposed

1035
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 1: to go. Like she's like debuting on Dave Barnes new album. Oh.

1036
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: I saw it and I went to and I said, oh,

1037
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: this is them both singing about their kids. Yeah, and

1038
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: I guess she's his wife, but I've never heard she

1039
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: literally just sings B G B. That's funny is that

1040
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: in her contract? You didn't know she hates it now

1041
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: because she wants to just be back there. She drives

1042
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: me crazy, like it's so cute. Every record She's like,

1043
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: you can have anything on it, anything on it, and

1044
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: then I'll get and she was just like, oh my god,

1045
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 1: I'm so nervous. Ton the Heaverne is too loud to that. Okay,

1046
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: not enough. I don't know how to do that, you know,

1047
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: and then like when this came out and she's like,

1048
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: of course it looks like I'm featured. It was like,

1049
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: oh my god. And they had a song on dates

1050
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: that's funny, Wall Day, what else? So much here, so

1051
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: much so, I mean I have everything up. They have

1052
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: the Christmas record. I'm always intrigued by Christmas records. Yeah,

1053
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: I love Christmas music is probably my favorite music to write. Yeah,

1054
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: because it's such a fixed target. It's like it's you,

1055
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's kind of like comedy. Truthfully, it's

1056
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: like you know if you hit it, you know if

1057
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: you miss it. There's really no in between, Like you

1058
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: know when you get downe to something like that makes

1059
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: you feel like Christmas, or you're like that doesn't make

1060
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: me feel like Christmas. Do you record it at an

1061
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: odd time and then make the room it's like July

1062
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: never if you can method acted and you Christmas, we

1063
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: have to do you like degree in the house, the

1064
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: kids living the life kids, they all look like the Ralph.

1065
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: You're the Daniel d Lewis Christmas music, Baby Christmas Tonight.

1066
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: Who's this thing with Hillary? Hillary Scott? Listen? If we

1067
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: don't go up. You know, I have like a couple

1068
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: of wishes in my career and one of them still

1069
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 1: left because God's just been so kind. It's been such

1070
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: a fun run. But I feel like I'm about to die,

1071
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: I know, but his last words, but but one of

1072
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: them is I just want some I want Booble to

1073
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: cut that song so bad because to me, it's like

1074
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: it's the less rap version of baby. It's called out

1075
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: And so when we wrote it, me and Clint Lagerberg

1076
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: wrote that and we had so much fun, right we

1077
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: did as a duo, and then I record it and

1078
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: it's and thankfully like people really enjoyed it. But I

1079
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: want somebody that can turn it into the thing because

1080
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: I really think in so much of the feedback we've gotten,

1081
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: it's been out for you know, six seven years now,

1082
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: but is it people like, yeah, this is like the

1083
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: clean version of that. It's the happier, less like go

1084
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: to sleep, you know, like you don't need your phone,

1085
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 1: there's no need for anuba. But you know that it's

1086
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: and so that's still one of like the two. Like

1087
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: if somebody was like if you could have like three

1088
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: wishes that like you can get and then your music

1089
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: has done. One of them for me would be to

1090
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: have like Boo Bleat or somebody do like a duett

1091
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: and see that really get a run at, like the

1092
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: New Christmas duet. You know that. Everybody's like, oh, we

1093
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: should do that too. You know, well, what's the goal now?

1094
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah that's a great yeah, be and you're right and so,

1095
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: but what's the goal now? You know? Life has changed

1096
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: a lot for me because like from when I was

1097
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: probably twenty five, well that's not true really about twenty

1098
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 1: two to about thirty, I was hitting it really hard,

1099
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: like you know, playing a lot, never as much as

1100
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: like the guys who were because I was in an

1101
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: indie world. I was like the singer songwriter guy that

1102
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: wasn't signed. So my schedule was never anything like you know,

1103
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: our friends or even goss Shares would be where you're

1104
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: like every weekend and doing the thing. Um. But we

1105
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: had kids, man, I just I love being a dad.

1106
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: I love it so much. It's like my favorite thing.

1107
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: And so I was like, how can I do this

1108
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: in a way where I can still go play my shows.

1109
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: I can still do what I love to do and

1110
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: make enough money to sort of haven't you know a family? Eating, living,

1111
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: and be humans until I'm not responsible for them anymore. Um.

1112
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 1: And was just good because I was right at the time,

1113
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 1: God game you happened. So it kind of created this

1114
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: new other lane in my career where I could sort

1115
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: of slow down my artistry a little bit. Need to

1116
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: be gone and playing shows and stuff. Um. And so

1117
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: now I think it's a lot more about like, you know,

1118
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 1: how do I sort of maximize road time? And also

1119
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: you know, I mean again, man, i'n be forty this

1120
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 1: So I literally feel like it's it's such a blessing

1121
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: that people even care. You know, there's just so much music. Man,

1122
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: It's like there's so much, and the people that do care,

1123
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,720
Speaker 1: you have to super serve them. And really that's your focus,

1124
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: and that's that's what matters. Right. I went through that

1125
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: struggle and I'm still going through it a bit where

1126
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I'm just gonna be

1127
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 1: famous for everybody. I'm just gonna be, uh, the next

1128
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: Suzanne Summers. You know. That's like I was gonna say

1129
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people compared me to her. That was like,

1130
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the next Everybody's just gonna love me

1131
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: because I'm Susanne Summuch, And then I started to realize,

1132
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's really important to me. Are the people

1133
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: that get me, and I'm going I get them, So

1134
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure that and I'm gonna try to

1135
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: satisfy them. And what I've noticed is when I target

1136
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: my people, not everybody, well I target my people, that

1137
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: piece of pie starts to spread a little by a

1138
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: little more so than if I've tried to throw it

1139
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: to everybody and just saw what happened. And I think

1140
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: that's been so far as secret to what I've been

1141
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: able to do is instead of being trying to be

1142
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: famous for everybody, because there is so much out there,

1143
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: you're you're you're not, especially now because back in the

1144
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: day there were four networks, there were eight radio stations.

1145
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 1: There wasn't online. So if you do have this niche,

1146
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 1: you do have this audience, that's your audience, and continue

1147
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: to give them what they want, what they love, and

1148
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: watch it grow instead of throw chum out all over

1149
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: the place and nothing grows because there you're just in

1150
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 1: the middle of this super highway of and I'm sure

1151
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: you see this a lot and and have for your career,

1152
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: but you know, One of the tricks of being an

1153
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: artist that's had so many records is there's always that

1154
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: temptation to reinvent and reinvent. How do I reinvent? But

1155
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: to your point, sometimes the worst thing you can do

1156
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: is to rein then and then the one crowd you

1157
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: have is kind of like. So there's a radio segment

1158
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: that we do called tell Me Something Good, and we've

1159
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: done it for fifteen years, and at times I get

1160
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: tired of doing it because we've done it for fifteen years,

1161
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: and I go, man, I just tired of doing this,

1162
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: and not all the time, but their brief periods, and

1163
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, I just want to scrape the whole thing.

1164
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: And we we do research and that's our most popular segment.

1165
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: That segment, by the way, we started doing it. Man,

1166
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: it's my twenties, mid twenties. We started doing it five

1167
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: am it research. Other shows will start doing it because

1168
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: they were forced to do it because it researched so

1169
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: well with us. And then it became like Seacrest called

1170
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: was like I like to take tell me something Good?

1171
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: You care And all of a sudden, this one segment

1172
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: that we used to do, not that everybody stole it.

1173
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: From us, but because it had success, it bred other

1174
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: companies to go, well, we'd like that success, we're gonna

1175
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: start doing. And so all of a sudden, there's this

1176
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: huge tell me something good in all the station you're

1177
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: doing some sort of it, some some incarnation of the

1178
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: same segment. And so I started to go, man, don't

1179
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: want to do this anymore. But I get it back

1180
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: as like, what do people love the most? I can

1181
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,919
Speaker 1: tell me something good. I've been done in fifteen years

1182
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: every day, and it's still what people love the most.

1183
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 1: So I go, as much as I'd like to reinvent

1184
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: myself at times, I can reinvent other little parts of me,

1185
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 1: but I still shouldn't make the main thing the main thing. Well,

1186
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: and that's you know, I can't. I don't think you

1187
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: can say that better. In my opinion, I think that's

1188
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: so well enunciated. I think that's a temptation, especially when

1189
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: artists in my season so not where tr is, not

1190
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: where artists who are in their third, fourth, second record,

1191
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: that's not the time for that. That's the time for invention,

1192
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: and it's time to figure out who you are more

1193
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: so than change up. Figure out who you are. And

1194
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: I think now, you know, and it's tough, man. I

1195
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: mean I had a really long conversation, to be really

1196
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: honest with my manager a couple of days ago, just

1197
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: going like, how do we feel how the records gone?

1198
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: And it was kind of frustrating for both of us.

1199
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: One I've never been like the sexy artist, but two

1200
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not the sexy artists now. So you know,

1201
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: you watch a lot of these opportunities to go, man,

1202
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: that would be so fun to do these things, and

1203
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: they don't happen, and it's like, well, I feel like

1204
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: the record Kord's good and and and just having to

1205
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: go you know what, though, Look, I'm not the young

1206
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: new dude, and I was at one point and it

1207
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: was so awesome and I got a lot of those opportunities,

1208
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: but I'm not anymore. And it's not about that anymore.

1209
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: It's making sure that people that do love what I

1210
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: do get what they want, and like that they're getting

1211
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: the songs, they're getting to tell me something good, they're

1212
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: getting the moments for me that they go. Let me

1213
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: tell you what why I listen to their bonnes. Let

1214
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: me tell you why I listen to Bobby Bones, right

1215
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: because they go this is what I get in. The

1216
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: minute we start deviating from those things, you can always

1217
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: add to them. But I think the minute you start

1218
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: changing these things that really bring people to what you do,

1219
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: it gets a little You can get into trouble because

1220
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: they start going, well, no, no, I go to these people.

1221
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the hardest things about

1222
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: being olders and artists. That's it's helpful as you realize, like, wow,

1223
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: people do kind of listen to me for a few things.

1224
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: You know, they listen to your show for I mean,

1225
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: everybody listenedge, but you know what I mean, Like, you

1226
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: start realizing, wow, Like, whether I like it or not,

1227
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: this is kind of how I'm perceiving. And thankfully, I

1228
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: think I would assume you'd say the same thing. You're

1229
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: probably proud of why you are, and that's why it's

1230
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: been so successful. Percent of the time. I love that.

1231
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: Then I get the itch and you don't want to

1232
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: throw away the whole arm from itch, And there are

1233
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: times where I go, you know what, it's just itch,

1234
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: don't cut off the arms to scratch it. And I

1235
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: can scratch it before that segment, rap of that segment,

1236
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: but just give the people what they want because they

1237
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: want you and that's what you've given them. And so

1238
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: for me, that's when you talk about that, I go, oh, yeah,

1239
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: I experienced it all the time, just a different plane.

1240
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: But you know you, you talk about you. So you're

1241
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: doing comedy now too, And I don't think you're ever

1242
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: gonna be known as Dave Barnes comedian and artist. Like

1243
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna be known as Bobby Bones the comedian

1244
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: and radio host. It's just never going to happen. I

1245
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: can be fantastic. That's I'm always going to be radio

1246
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: host first and then other things. I wrote a New

1247
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: York Times number one best selling book and nobody gives

1248
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: a crap. No one goes author, no what not. One

1249
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: person has ever said, oh, you're the author. Never. They

1250
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: always go, oh, you're the DJ, which by you know,

1251
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: by the way, d J to me, I feel like

1252
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: that's insulting the dead mouth. He's a real DJ. I

1253
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: feel like he's getting piste off of the mouth head

1254
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: going oh they go off with DJ that good talks.

1255
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's uh, it's a We're always gonna be

1256
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: who we are, but we can explore these other areas

1257
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: and you can go tell jokes, and I can go

1258
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: tell jokes and we can be successful at them, but

1259
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: we're never gonna be known as except for what we're

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00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: known as. But you can be the new comedy guy.

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00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: But you don't look like some decrepitle If you're listening

1262
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: to and you don't know what Dave Barnes looks like,

1263
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: you think he looks like un family guys that goes

1264
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna bring me some that's not you. You're still

1265
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: you can be a young comedian at forty years old.

1266
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: And I'm listen, I'm thrilled. I couldn't be more happy

1267
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: with the life that I've got and I feel so blessed.

1268
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: So no one's claiming you aren't. Yeah, and I understand

1269
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: what that's like to go this stuff's not going right.

1270
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: They're always gonna things that are going right. Don't mean

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00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: we don't love what we have. I get so upset

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01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: at times, but I would never change. I hate waking

1273
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: up at three in the morning. And if I complain

1274
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: about that one more time, I think everybody's head may

1275
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: explode around me because it's like body again. Yeah, I

1276
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: still I love what I do. Well, you know the

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01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: other thing too, and and and This is the other

1278
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: thing that I think I've had to learn is I

1279
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: don't know what it's like to have the things that

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01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: I want to have. And I think that was a

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01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: real lesson to me. Honestly, I feel like the Lord

1282
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: really told me. It was like, look, you know you

1283
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: can handle what you got, right, And I was like, yeah,

1284
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: I think so, and he's like, but you know what

1285
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: you don't know is if you can handle all this

1286
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: stuff that you're so mad you don't have, So maybe

1287
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: trust me a little more that I know what's good

1288
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: for you and I know you can handle. And that

1289
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: was a huge moment because I think it's so easy

1290
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: to see these moments or these people are just whatever,

1291
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: and it's so stupid because I don't need all that stuff.

1292
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: I just think my security was like, I just like

1293
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: to have a little more success or something. And he's like, well, well,

1294
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: do you know what that's like? And I'm like no,

1295
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: and he's like, well, then be careful. And that was

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01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: one of the best things I'll never forget out a

1297
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: conversation with Natalie him Be. This was one of the

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01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: most profound things I've ever been told. We're doing around

1299
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: this is right when Pontoon was happening, and I was like, God,

1300
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: can rass on everything that's happening. And she was like, oh,

1301
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: thank you so much. And I said, how's it going?

1302
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: You know? Natalie? She's like, you really want to know?

1303
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: And I was like yeah. She said, I've never been

1304
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: so in my head about anything in my life. And

1305
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: I was like why. She said, because nobody warned me

1306
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: about success. And I felt like literally the Lord had

1307
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: taken up and he was like, day, were you listening.

1308
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: It's now God, it's not Natalie anymore. And I was like,

1309
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: but it was just like that was a profound moment

1310
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: for me. And I think that's really true. And I

1311
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: think as we all got to be careful about this

1312
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: thing where we chase these things, because if you're not careful, one,

1313
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: you forget the stuff you got, which is such a blessing.

1314
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: I mean, look at what you're doing. It's incredible. I mean,

1315
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: there's but jillions of people listen you talk on the radio.

1316
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: But if you're not careful, you can get into season

1317
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: where you're like, yeah, but you know what, I need

1318
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: it a brilliant in one. I need that extra market.

1319
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: Give me that market, you know what? I mean, all

1320
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's like you can't enjoy these huge

1321
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: blessings you have a lot. It's tough, and so for me,

1322
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: I think it's going no, no, I'm thankful what I

1323
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: have and it's you know, you always want a little

1324
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: more than you have. But how do how do I

1325
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: live a life that's that I can be a great day,

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01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: hadna be great husband. I can do my artistry. I

1327
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: can do this comedy and do it in ways that

1328
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: are sustainable that I'm not gonna kill myself being gone

1329
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: a million days a year, but also doing enough where

1330
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: I get to work and you know, flex these muscles.

1331
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: I have to do this stuff. You know, well, I

1332
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: hope everybody checks out the record. It is really fantastic record.

1333
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: Who knew it would be so hard just to be myself?

1334
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: And that's that. That's long a lot of words. I

1335
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 1: admire that though the same reason I want to put

1336
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: the whole front page on the book my cover, like

1337
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 1: I wanted it to be called all of them. That

1338
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: was even part of my gag to about the book

1339
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: was what's the title of it? Well, it's the every

1340
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 1: word on the front page. You don't think that's interesting

1341
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: and they're like, we just They're like it's interesting. Yeah,

1342
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: we just don't. We just think it's too much. You'd

1343
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: be hard to explain it, Like that's the beauty. You

1344
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: have to talk about everything. I hope you listen to

1345
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: the record, check it out. All I can ask is

1346
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: that you expose yourself to it. I love it if

1347
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna start with one, because you know, just full disclosure.

1348
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: What happened is, I don't feel like I have I

1349
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 1: don't feel like I deserve a lot of the things

1350
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: that are offered to me in the artist world. Because

1351
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 1: artists will come up and I think they go, man,

1352
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: I kind of like Bobby. He's not a good songwriter,

1353
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: but he's pleasant to be around, and he's semi knowledgeable

1354
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: in music, and they go, they'll leave not on the minke,

1355
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: they'll leave it. Go hey, if you ever want to

1356
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: write something, I never ever do that because I don't

1357
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: feel like I deserve to be in the rooms. I'll

1358
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: call friends sometimes because I don't write normal music, alright,

1359
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: stupid stuff. So I don't feel like they should waste

1360
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: their time it's stupid stuff because that's not their thing

1361
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: in their passion. What what I think would be cool.

1362
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: I think you should come in one weekend. You're not

1363
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: like we're on the road. You should come out on

1364
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: the road with me and do a couple of shows.

1365
01:03:58,400 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: I can't give you hour, but we can get up

1366
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: and play some songs, so we can. I mean, I

1367
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 1: would love that. I would love And I know it's

1368
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: not cool. It's not Lucy Silva's, it's not somebody is

1369
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: super Time. I think you're funnier and better music to me,

1370
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: and so I look forward to the challenge. But that

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01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: would be for me that I like to look at

1372
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: days and see it. I love that. Yeah, I would

1373
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: love that too, and I would be completely threatened and insecure,

1374
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: and that's when I'm often the best. We should write

1375
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: funny songs because you do that. I don't feel weird

1376
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: about that. Like that, uh, Nicole Guyland Nicole, she left

1377
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 1: you like, hey, let's write I wouldn't do that to

1378
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:48,919
Speaker 1: her because her things not being odd. That thinks being awesome. Yeah,

1379
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: And so she's writing female and she's writing tequila. She's

1380
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 1: she's doing her thing and being awesome. She's their things

1381
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: not being awkward. I feel like us we and don't

1382
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: that just a bit so anyway, I'll probably never follow up,

1383
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: but if you ever go, I like what he said,

1384
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 1: like just me, I would love I would love you

1385
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: to come on. I think my people would love it,

1386
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 1: crush it. And then I would just be so destroyed

1387
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: by you dominating and taking my crowd that I would

1388
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: have to get better, because I believe you only get

1389
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: better by seeing people that are better than you at

1390
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: what you do. I've enjoyed this a lot, and you

1391
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: know what, for what it's worth. I thought about this

1392
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: when I was coming today this. I'm so thankful for

1393
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,479
Speaker 1: what you do, especially for the songwriting community here, because

1394
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: I think it really is it's such a I mean,

1395
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: the the talent of people in this town that you

1396
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: know so well, You've beterviewed so many of them. It's

1397
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: I listened to it all the time. I love this part.

1398
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 1: I was thrilled that I was gonna be on it.

1399
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: So thank you for having you. But I love that

1400
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: you do that because it's it's it's so funny to hear,

1401
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: you know, to hear artists talk about because you're used

1402
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: to that. But it's I've I've loved and these are

1403
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: some of my best friends, and I'm learning so many

1404
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: things about them I didn't know, and so I'm glad.

1405
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: I I'm so thankful you do this because I think

1406
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: it gives a voice to people who really kind of

1407
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 1: are the voices without people knowing it to so many

1408
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: of these songs that are you know, cherished, sort of

1409
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 1: timeless songs that matter so much to people, and you

1410
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 1: have them in to kind of give him a chance

1411
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: to talk about it with some thanks. Man. One of

1412
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: the fun moments for me was, you know, and in town,

1413
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: Shane mcinally's kind of running the songwriting community and he's

1414
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 1: writting everything. He's the king King Dingling of Nashville. And

1415
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: so he we did the podcast, and he was out

1416
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 1: because he had started Monument Records, and he was out

1417
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: with Walker Walker Hayes who was opening for me, and

1418
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: we were in Boston and Shane had him a podcast

1419
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: like two weeks before, and he walked out to the

1420
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 1: lobby and they're like, Shane McK and alley. He goes, dude,

1421
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: people recognizing for your podcast. This is legit. And I

1422
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 1: was like, that's awesome, because really people didn't know Shane

1423
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: or what he did unless you're so into the weeds.

1424
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 1: But I also enjoyed bringing something awesome to my people.

1425
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: It was just the town. You know this, It is

1426
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 1: so t I could do. I could endlessly do this

1427
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: for years and years and years and and bring someone

1428
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 1: into my house. It's awesome every time. So I'm I'm

1429
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: just a huge fan of yours and it just started

1430
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: me going to the record came out and there's a

1431
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 1: listener of mine, uh Steph who is a huge fan

1432
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 1: of yours, who was like, you should bring in date

1433
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: and I don't want to tell her I was bringing

1434
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 1: you in, Pickul, bringing Dave bar She's tweeting me all

1435
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: the time and so she's gonna flip out whatever finally

1436
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: do you have talking about? So she's gonna flip out

1437
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: whenever she hears this. But I'm a big fan. I

1438
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 1: think the record is fantastic. Never really does mean a lot.

1439
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: If you're listening out there, you check it out. And

1440
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: Dave Barnes, this has been a fantastic, fantastic one. Do

1441
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: you enjoy this? Yeah? Right, yeah, Like I don't say this,

1442
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 1: but this is I mean, it's my favorite one. I'm

1443
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: gonna end everyone for now one Dave one. I felt

1444
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: like Dave and I could be best friends. After he left,

1445
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: I was like, huh, you know how because he's way

1446
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: smarter than I, and I go, Man, if I just

1447
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 1: hung around to him, i'd be smarter too, And that's

1448
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: that's that's what I'm trying to do it. When Davide

1449
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: Woods said to me, you know, I don't remember what

1450
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: it was like not to be out to playing music,

1451
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, I've never done in anything

1452
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: in my whole life. Like I don't even understand that.

1453
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: You didn't understand, Like it's just yeah, yeah, well, Dave Barnes,

1454
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 1: good to see a bud, Yeah, thanks for having all Right,

1455
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: that's it. Episode uh, episode something I don't know. We're

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01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 1: in the hundreds of now on the Bobby Cast, and

1457
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 1: we'll see you next time. Everybody