WEBVTT - 9 Delightful Facts about Office Supplies

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what, mango, what's that? Well, I'm gonna share a

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you didn't know was coming your way. So

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<v Speaker 1>did you know that Truman Capodi loved paper weights? That

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<v Speaker 1>is so strange, I know, but apparently he was a

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<v Speaker 1>huge fan of them. So I feel like paper weights

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<v Speaker 1>are one of those things that you only had because

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<v Speaker 1>your kid made it for you for Christmas. Likely they

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<v Speaker 1>glued some feathers and a pipe cleaner to a rock

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<v Speaker 1>and now you can't throw it away. Yes, I got

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<v Speaker 1>one of those sitting right here, But I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever bought a paperweight. If you it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>I live in a windy house, right anything. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't say that I've ever saved up to buy a paperway,

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<v Speaker 1>But apparently there's quite a market for them, and Capodi

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<v Speaker 1>had an amazing eye for them. According to the Paris Review,

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<v Speaker 1>he went to the auctions in Europe and Asia just

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<v Speaker 1>to see these things, and he'd check out thrift shops

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<v Speaker 1>and even buy them for like twenty bucks and they

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<v Speaker 1>turned out to be worth like four thousand dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>four thousand dollar paperweight. This isn't something I made up.

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<v Speaker 1>He really did this stuff. But I mean, like, unless

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<v Speaker 1>you're using a diamond for a paperweight, I really don't

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<v Speaker 1>see how it could be worth that much. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but he loved them, and Capodi actually had one in

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<v Speaker 1>his collection that was from Italy, a Mili Fiori and

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<v Speaker 1>it was worth seven thousand dis Apparently he called paper

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<v Speaker 1>weights a quote fragment of a dream. But after finding

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<v Speaker 1>that story, I thought we should do today's nine Things

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<v Speaker 1>on office supply, So let's dig in. Hey, their podcast listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to part time Genius. I'm Will Pearson and as

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<v Speaker 1>always I'm joined by my good friend man guest shot

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<v Speaker 1>Ticketer and the other side of that soundproof glass shuffling

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<v Speaker 1>folders around in his Lamborghini trapper that day, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>our pal and producer Ston McNeil. I know we love

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<v Speaker 1>our office here at how stuff works. And actually I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen you bring your kids in a few times and

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<v Speaker 1>do they love coming into the office here? Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they think it's such a treat. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you do, but I I used to go

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<v Speaker 1>to my dad's office and this is when he worked

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<v Speaker 1>at the Experimental Station at DuPont, which was their big

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<v Speaker 1>research facility and I remember thinking it was just so exotic, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like it was the secret world he'd go to do

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<v Speaker 1>important things. And when I was there, I get to

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<v Speaker 1>peek into his lab set up that he had near

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<v Speaker 1>his desk. It was super cool. I mean, my kids

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<v Speaker 1>just like coming to the office here because Tamika and

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<v Speaker 1>Ember keep it stocked with candy and snacks. But actually,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think it's from coming in. But my

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter is obsessed with having meetings with her friends now,

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<v Speaker 1>Like she just keeps talking about meetings. She's got to

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<v Speaker 1>go to a recess and meetings she's got with her

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<v Speaker 1>friends after school. And I think it's because I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>rushing off to meetings and and so what does she

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<v Speaker 1>do with these meetings? Mostly she just comes in and

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<v Speaker 1>a hoff and says, oh, honor, and I had to

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<v Speaker 1>cancel our meeting today. It's so annoying. And you'll be

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<v Speaker 1>like why and she'll say, you know, a monster attack.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds pretty accurate. And that's kind of what happens

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<v Speaker 1>with us. Well, we we started the show off talking

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<v Speaker 1>about paper weight, So so where do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>go from their mango? I think I'm gonna start with pencils.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you remember the sudoku trend from like a

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<v Speaker 1>decade or so ago. Yeah, it was everywhere. And actually

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<v Speaker 1>this is a short aside, but I remember one of

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<v Speaker 1>our editors, that our book publisher. She was telling us

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<v Speaker 1>how it was her job to edit sudoku and that

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<v Speaker 1>there was basically no difference between them. You could get

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<v Speaker 1>them an easy, medium or hard, but yeah, that there's

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<v Speaker 1>no personality to the things. So her job was to

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<v Speaker 1>come up with different book covers and so she turned

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<v Speaker 1>them into like a salsa jar cover or have them

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<v Speaker 1>say like mild, medium or spicy and like that, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure gets like challenging after a while, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>how many categories can you come up with? But here's

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<v Speaker 1>what I wanted to say about pencils. So, after sudoku

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<v Speaker 1>took off in England, the Chicago Tribute in report that

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<v Speaker 1>pencil sales in the country went up seven hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that insane? That is? Yeah, But there's also a

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<v Speaker 1>bonus pencil fact I have here. Part of the reason

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<v Speaker 1>that NASA uses pens in space is because sharpening pencil

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<v Speaker 1>sends all these wooden flakes into the air. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty obvious, but first, they switched to mechanical pencils

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<v Speaker 1>before they made the move to pens, and this was

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen five. NASA ordered thirty or so mechanical pencils

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<v Speaker 1>from a company and paid about a hundred thirty dollars

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<v Speaker 1>for each one, and there was actually so much outrage

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<v Speaker 1>from the public about spending that much money on pencils

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<v Speaker 1>that they switched to pens, which of course means astronauts

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<v Speaker 1>have to be extra careful when they do their sudoku

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<v Speaker 1>in space. I mean, that is crazy. But all right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of mistakes, did you know what they used to

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<v Speaker 1>use before rubber erasers? Apparently they used wheat red and

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<v Speaker 1>and and it had to be wheat I think, not

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<v Speaker 1>rye or pumpernickel. And anyway, this comes from mental flaws.

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<v Speaker 1>But in seventeen seventy, a guy named Edward name was

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<v Speaker 1>writing and made an error, so he reached for his

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<v Speaker 1>leftover wheat loaf, I guess, and he accidentally grabbed a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of rubber and started a racing and was delighted

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<v Speaker 1>when he realized it performed even better than the wheat bread.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds like a terrible life hack, right, Like, we're

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<v Speaker 1>on the race around your pencils. Just stuff some bread

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<v Speaker 1>and there instead. Doesn't it seem like the pencil markings

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<v Speaker 1>would just get all smudgy, Like I can't imagine it

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<v Speaker 1>works that well. Well, we'll have to try this one

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<v Speaker 1>out later, all right, So what's your next one? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>how about we move on to the stapler. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you loved the classic movie Office Space, you probably remember

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<v Speaker 1>the character Milton and his red swing Line stapler that

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<v Speaker 1>he was obsessed with. So you know, after the movie

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<v Speaker 1>came out, it bombed in theaters, but it did well

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<v Speaker 1>on DVD, and Swing Line started getting tons of calls

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<v Speaker 1>for their red stapler. The only problem was Swing Line

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<v Speaker 1>never actually made a red stapler. The one in the

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<v Speaker 1>movie had been custom painted by a prop designer I

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<v Speaker 1>guess to make it pop off the screen or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So people actually made a business of it. They started

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<v Speaker 1>d I wining it, they spray painted their own, and

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly there was this hot market on eBay for it,

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<v Speaker 1>and eventually, like swing Line, wise and up and at

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<v Speaker 1>least a quote rio red version to quality demand. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that people can get attached enough to a concept

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<v Speaker 1>in a movie that they like need a red staplers

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<v Speaker 1>such a weird thing. All right, Well, here's a quick

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<v Speaker 1>one about a post it notes. There's of course a

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<v Speaker 1>well known origin story where scientists created a very weak

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<v Speaker 1>glue that no one knew how to use, and eventually

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<v Speaker 1>he used it for temporary bookmarks and his hymnal and

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of took off from there. What's interesting is

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<v Speaker 1>that for something so temporary, they actually have quite a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of sticking power. So post it note actually survived

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<v Speaker 1>on a trip from Vegas to Minneapolis on the nose

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<v Speaker 1>of a jet. It was put there as a reminder

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<v Speaker 1>for the Vegas ground crew, but it clung on through

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred mile per hour speeds and minus fifty six

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<v Speaker 1>degree temperatures. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, I mean it's like

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<v Speaker 1>the little post it that could definitely was. But all right,

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<v Speaker 1>so where do you want to take it from here?

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<v Speaker 1>So I've actually got a great story that Christopher told

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<v Speaker 1>me about, and it's about the highlighter. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>how they always come in these fat and flat shapes,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is something I've never thought about. But the

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<v Speaker 1>story is really funny. So apparently this guy, Gunter Schwanhauser

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<v Speaker 1>for from the Schwan pencil factory. You know the schwan

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<v Speaker 1>pencil factory, right of pencil factory. Well, you've seen a

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<v Speaker 1>highlighter in the US in this nineties seventies, and he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to release his own version back in Germany. So

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<v Speaker 1>he had his technicians and designers bring him a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of these like clay prototypes for some reason. But when

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<v Speaker 1>he saw them, he was completely irritated, like none of

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<v Speaker 1>them had the right ergonomic field or something, and it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't feel right in his hand. So in his anger,

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<v Speaker 1>he slammed his fist down on the clay models and

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<v Speaker 1>when he looked at the flattened shaped he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is genius, Like that's the shape that feels good

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<v Speaker 1>in your hand, and uh, I mean, I just think

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<v Speaker 1>that's so cool. But he also called the product the

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<v Speaker 1>boss because busses don't write things, they just point out

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<v Speaker 1>important things that other people right, And I imagine a

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<v Speaker 1>guy named Gunter schwan Hauser would would slam his fist

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<v Speaker 1>down every once in a while. Definitely. Well here's something

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<v Speaker 1>neither of us are fancy enough to own, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen hundred dollar business cards for one card, or for

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<v Speaker 1>like a set of them, apparently one card. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is from two thousand twelve where a company called Black

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<v Speaker 1>Ask from in England started making a card of Swiss

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<v Speaker 1>metal construction and more than thirty carrots of diamonds were

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<v Speaker 1>in each card. I mean, if I got handed one

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<v Speaker 1>of those, I just think you're really bad at business. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>someone must be buying the custom handcrafted cards are sold

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<v Speaker 1>in packs of twenty, three, fifty or one hundred, and

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<v Speaker 1>just because you're wealthy doesn't mean you can purchase them.

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<v Speaker 1>They're only obtainable through an exclusive invite. I love that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of pomposity, like you have to be invited to

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<v Speaker 1>throw away your money. Here's right, right. I know we've

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<v Speaker 1>got a couple more facts to share before we declare winner.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's take a quick break for Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>Part time Genius, and we're talking facts about office supplies. Now, Mango,

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<v Speaker 1>it's your last fact, So what do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. I want to talk about cubicles, which are

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<v Speaker 1>always a touchy subject, and they were touching at our

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<v Speaker 1>last office. And I'm sure you remember this, like some

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<v Speaker 1>people love them, some people felt closed off from all

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<v Speaker 1>the conversations around them, and and you know, we kept

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<v Speaker 1>experimenting with the office design, like we had big cubes

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<v Speaker 1>and then these more open office spaces. But but did

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<v Speaker 1>you realize that cubicles were actually designed to free office

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<v Speaker 1>workers from their uninspired workplace settings. Yeah, this is another

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<v Speaker 1>thing Christopher told me. But the things were originally called

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<v Speaker 1>the action office and was meant to free workers from

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<v Speaker 1>the tyranny of those classroom style offices that you see

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<v Speaker 1>in old movies where like all these deaths are in

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<v Speaker 1>the big hall face the same way. But the designer,

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<v Speaker 1>who's named Robert Probst, he designed them in the sixties

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<v Speaker 1>and actually hated how they were used in the eighties

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<v Speaker 1>and nineties. And and this is how he put it.

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<v Speaker 1>The dark side of this is that not all organizations

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<v Speaker 1>are intelligent. Lots are run by crass people who can

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<v Speaker 1>take the same kind of equipment and create hell holes.

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<v Speaker 1>They make little bitty cubicles and stuff people in these

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<v Speaker 1>barren rat hole places. Wow, he was not a fan.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I always love that book from Quirk about

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<v Speaker 1>how to wallpaper your cubicle and make it like tiki themed,

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<v Speaker 1>or how to design it so it was like your

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<v Speaker 1>cabin in the woods or something like that. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so great, So well, what's your last fact? All right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>just like cubicles and open offices, another thing that goes

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<v Speaker 1>in and out of fads seems to be desk chairs

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<v Speaker 1>and and right now, standing desk are obviously super popular.

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<v Speaker 1>We can just look around in the office here and

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<v Speaker 1>see so many people using them. I know, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it made this like progression right from like these

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<v Speaker 1>super ergonomic chairs to yoga balls for a while, suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone was bouncing on yoga poulse and now all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden everyone is standing. Oh that's right. But

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<v Speaker 1>apparently none of this is new. The ministers have been

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<v Speaker 1>preaching standing desk since at least seventeen nineties seven, when

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<v Speaker 1>this Presbyterian minister his name was job Orton, he was

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<v Speaker 1>telling people that a sedentary life was dangerous and he

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<v Speaker 1>claimed that quote, it must be your resolute care to

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<v Speaker 1>keep your body upright as possible, never stoop your head

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<v Speaker 1>or bend your breast. To prevent this, you should get

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<v Speaker 1>a standing desk. That's crazy that he used this exactly where.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like he kind of should have trademark them, right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And another minister in eighteen thirty six, this guy was

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<v Speaker 1>named Ebeny's reporter claimed that the standing desk is good

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<v Speaker 1>for those quote who have the animal vigor to sustain

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<v Speaker 1>the exhaustion and occasions. Animal vigor, you know, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>it takes. But if you're on the fence about using

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<v Speaker 1>a standing desk, you should know there are some historical

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<v Speaker 1>figures who were early adopters. Thomas Jefferson used what he

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<v Speaker 1>called a tall desk to draw blueprints, and Winston Churchill

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<v Speaker 1>also used the standing desk to lay out galley proofs.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Churchill also used to spend half his day

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<v Speaker 1>naked in a bathtub, like drinking straight in martiniz. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's how. I'm not sure I need to follow his model,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do like knowing that this trend has come

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<v Speaker 1>full circle. And since you've changed my mind on standing this,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to take home today's trophy and use

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<v Speaker 1>it as a paperweight. All right, Well, thanks so much,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's it for today's episode. We will be back

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<v Speaker 1>with a full length episode tomorrow. Thanks so much for listening.