Speaker 1: The volume. The Cowboys head coach Brian Schottenheimer says Dak
Speaker 1: is still in developmental phase. I think Dak is in
Speaker 1: the developmental phase, and that sounds crazy for a guy
Speaker 1: who's played as much. But there are things were tweaking
Speaker 1: with Dak. Dak is entering his tenth NFL season.
Speaker 2: What you think, I'm trying to understand developmental phase? At
Speaker 2: what point in year ten? Is something developmental at this point?
Speaker 2: Especially when it says it's not the same offense, it's
Speaker 2: the same offense from last year.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, right, Nah, I guess he's gonna
Speaker 1: implement his because that was Mike McCarthy's offense.
Speaker 2: If that's the case, then he is in the developmental
Speaker 2: stage because he having to learn the new offense, all
Speaker 2: the new nuances and all the intricacies of that new offense.
Speaker 2: So I totally understand. I mean, that gives me better context.
Speaker 2: So I mean, that's understandable, that's understandable. I'm excited for
Speaker 2: Dak Man. I'm excited for Dak. I just hope they're
Speaker 2: ready to I just hope they're ready to use use
Speaker 2: pick the right way. Ceedee Lamb is gonna get his regardless,
Speaker 2: especially when he plays in the slot. He's when he
Speaker 2: was ceedee Lamb is in the slot. The creased mismatches
Speaker 2: regards to who they're playing.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter who they're planning. And we know what
Speaker 3: Pick can do on the outside. You can take a
Speaker 3: short and hit his head off the gold post, or
Speaker 3: he can go deep.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah you gotta. I mean, look, they should be
Speaker 1: really explosive in the passing game. We're gonna see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they protected because you know, you lose. I mean, Zach
Speaker 1: Martin is retired.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: The offensive line whether it was kind of shaky last year,
Speaker 1: old Joe. So let's see what they what how have
Speaker 1: they uh uh shored up that the running Game Blue
Speaker 1: had some really good games. So it's gonna be it's
Speaker 1: gonna be. Uh, it's gonna be very interesting to see
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys are offensively as far as protection. If
Speaker 1: we don't look, Oh, you can have all all the
Speaker 1: guys you want, but you gonna protect your quarterback ain't
Speaker 1: gonna do you no good.
Speaker 3: At all at all. That goes for the Cowboys, they
Speaker 3: goes for my Bengals. They goes to the.
Speaker 2: Goddamn Chiefs down there in Kansas City, Yeah, and who else?
Speaker 3: But hell, the the Eagles don't gotten in the world
Speaker 3: about for a long time.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Eagles got the best offensive line in
Speaker 1: football though. Hell they got the best line in football too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but but I'm looking at it. I mean, think about it.
Speaker 1: Look at the right tackle and the left tackle. You
Speaker 1: got Lane Johnson and my Latta. You got your center.
Speaker 1: You replace it with Justson Kelsey, and you replace Jason
Speaker 1: Kelsey and that guy he's in the damn near All Pro.
Speaker 1: But he goes to the Pro Bowl and you look
Speaker 1: at Dixon mm hmm, one of your best guards. I mean,
Speaker 1: so they good. They set for the foreseeable future at
Speaker 1: the at the at the offensive line position.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Should that be embarrassed that Brian Schottenheimer said that he's
Speaker 1: in the developmental state phase?
Speaker 2: Absolutely not, because if you learn in the new offense,
Speaker 2: it's completely differ and you have to rewire and relearn everything,
Speaker 2: even though you played the game for ten years. So
Speaker 2: saying he's in a development of today at this time,
Speaker 2: whether the NTA, it's acceptable acceptable because that's what it is.
Speaker 2: It's a time for you to develop and learn. Everything
Speaker 2: that comes with.
Speaker 3: That offers going to be completely different in what you
Speaker 3: learned before.
Speaker 1: Es Ben Jeremy Fowler reports that Kyle Pitts would be
Speaker 1: open to a trade even though he's not necessarily looking
Speaker 1: to be moved and the Falcons aren't aggressively shopping him.
Speaker 1: So I checked with the source who said that, look,
Speaker 1: if Atlanta gets the right counter deal for Kyle Pits,
Speaker 1: it could very well could come together. This is not
Speaker 1: a situation where he's requesting a trade, but if he
Speaker 1: has a chance to go maybe to a better offense
Speaker 1: where he's more featured.
Speaker 3: He's sort of a third or.
Speaker 1: Fourth wheel right now in Atlanta and could be something
Speaker 1: that he's open to.
Speaker 2: I like it, and he wouldn't be a third or
Speaker 2: fourth wheel if he hadn't gotten hurt. You have to
Speaker 2: understand after the a c l he has, he hasn't
Speaker 2: been the same Coyle Pits we saw at Florida.
Speaker 3: He just hasn't. And if if you watch him close,
Speaker 3: there's a there's a slight limp when he when he
Speaker 3: when he was on there's a slight thing that you
Speaker 3: can tell exactly which need you know, uh, he he
Speaker 3: tours a c l uh. It's unfortunate as great as
Speaker 3: he is, he's still very good now that he's recovered
Speaker 3: somewhat from that from that injury. I would like to
Speaker 3: see him in a different offense where he can be
Speaker 3: featured more. Well, yeah, yeah, I think that.
Speaker 2: I mean where that would be, I'm not sure. That's
Speaker 2: the problem. That's the that's the problem.
Speaker 3: I think he'd be great in Kansas City.
Speaker 2: Oh that's nasty, a player like Kyle Pitts of his
Speaker 2: caliber before we got injured. If he hadn't got injured,
Speaker 2: we always talked about Hockinson.
Speaker 3: And then ride.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bowers, listen, he was e above everyone I just
Speaker 2: named eons above. The only thing that set him back
Speaker 2: was that injury. I don't understand how special he is.
Speaker 2: How many of those dudes I just named go up
Speaker 2: and go line up out there receiver and.
Speaker 3: Ain't a whole lot of them. I mean, you know
Speaker 3: they're they're versatile now.
Speaker 1: But this guy had moved, he had wiggle, Like you said,
Speaker 1: he could run, he could run the route, he can
Speaker 1: run the slant, he can run it out and run
Speaker 1: a comeback dick.
Speaker 3: And so yeah, he was. He was special. And but
Speaker 3: now he's two years removed from that. A C. L.
Speaker 3: Now even his fifth year, isn't it? Or was his
Speaker 3: fourth year? Thanks in this it should be four. I
Speaker 3: think it's her fourth for Kyle. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 3: we're gonna be he gonna be all right good. This
Speaker 3: is fifty or fourth year.
Speaker 1: Because uh, because I don't think they picked up his
Speaker 1: fifth year option.
Speaker 3: Little that's a little motivation right there. It is little motivation.
Speaker 3: One two, three, four, five, fifth year?
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, and I hope, I hope Michael Penning Jr.
Speaker 2: Knows they didn't pick up that fifty year option.
Speaker 3: And throwing the ball every play on purpose, So we
Speaker 3: have a hell of a year, so we get paid
Speaker 3: in off season? Oh, y'all, what's that?
Speaker 1: Falcons undrafted free agent Kobe Bryant spelled co O b
Speaker 1: e E. Kobe Brant went after Lamar Jackson on snapchat.
Speaker 3: Take a look at the picture. Is that hard? Yep?
Speaker 3: And what buddy doing? What what I mean? Great regular season,
Speaker 3: not so much in the postseason. That's the rookie did that? Yeah,
Speaker 3: undrafted free agent? But what's what's up with buddy? Hey?
Speaker 3: Dot me say that?
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, that is that that's that might be
Speaker 2: some personal Maybe that's some personal We don't know about it.
Speaker 3: Bro, Bro, I don't know. Look, you already know.
Speaker 1: I only know when Kobe Bryant rest is soul, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: and they spelled it like the state. So I don't
Speaker 1: know this young man. And he might turn out to
Speaker 1: be a phenomenal player, and I hope he does. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: but it's a little early for you to be to
Speaker 1: make talking this kind of noise. Now you need to
Speaker 1: be past, sir, Tad. You need to be Jay Ram,
Speaker 1: You need to be one of them big dogs Stingley Junior.
Speaker 3: Okay, you want to take a shot. Okay, you're gonna
Speaker 3: get that. Come on now, well hold on, hold on,
Speaker 3: he got you got my attention. Now you got Kobe Bryant. Uh, Bro,
Speaker 3: you ain't gonna be playing no attention. We got bigger
Speaker 3: fish to be worried about him. Hold on, but no,
Speaker 3: we got bigger fister. But if you take shots like this,
Speaker 3: right you? Yes that boy? Yes, now you've got Now
Speaker 3: you got my attention. So I'm trying to see what
Speaker 3: you like on that field.
Speaker 1: Well, hey, I sure hope they played the Ravens so
Speaker 1: we can find out.
Speaker 3: Hold on what position he played?
Speaker 1: Your corner right Oh here, car, Yeah, this man put
Speaker 1: James hardened head on Lamar jacksonbody with the numb and everything.
Speaker 3: Okay, who we played for the Hawk? I mean the Falcons. Okay,
Speaker 3: they the schedule out Do the Ravens play the Falcons
Speaker 3: this year? I don't know the Falcons play the Ravens.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna call I'm gonna call
Speaker 2: a J. Terrell and asked A J. Terrell if Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 3: Really liked that. Yeah, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta,
Speaker 3: I gotta watch some film on Young Bull. Normally, when
Speaker 3: you talk like this, so you you know, you throw
Speaker 3: a little shade, that means that means you like that.
Speaker 1: Man, that's a big old tree. That ain't no little shade.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't know what he was thinking
Speaker 3: with this one right here. Listen you, I mean, you
Speaker 3: know what he was thinking.
Speaker 1: But people trying to people try to figure out why
Speaker 1: he did it.
Speaker 3: Hell, I don't know. I don't know either. That's why
Speaker 3: the first thing I said is maybe this is something
Speaker 3: personal that we don't know about. Well, he should go
Speaker 3: to Lamar because most of them, most of the.
Speaker 2: Time when you're young, like that coming into the NFL,
Speaker 2: yours respect, your elders, especially the great was like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet I they tell you man them ain't
Speaker 3: have no no respect. Nah, not like it. That's why
Speaker 3: I don't, man, I would have never. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just hard. But go ahead. I mean, look, that's
Speaker 1: that he Look, we love the First Amendment. He has
Speaker 1: a right to say what they wants to say. Yeah, hey, bro,
Speaker 1: you have to go out there and back that up.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so now you're putting now you put the
Speaker 2: pressure on yourself.
Speaker 1: Not too right right now, you got to alligate a
Speaker 1: mouth now, don't let don't have no humming bird ass.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, I'm not. I'm depending pay of that now,
Speaker 3: got to use that.
Speaker 1: Oh, they played the Ravens. They play the Ravens next year.
Speaker 1: Now Lamar beat up on you out about that. They
Speaker 1: need to get this thing or they need to get
Speaker 1: this going.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Hey, they say hey, Lamar probably say hey, harbad, y'all
Speaker 1: put this put him on the preseason schedule, and I
Speaker 1: play it, El Jackson, I play it. Hey, man, Labar
Speaker 1: probably look, hey, you know one of Lamar boys.
Speaker 3: Or somebody probably sitting to say, hey, don what's up
Speaker 3: with O? Boy?
Speaker 1: Probably like who do look what I sent you?
Speaker 3: And one one thing about one thing by eight. He
Speaker 3: don't talk. He ain't eve gonna respond, He ain't forna
Speaker 3: I know, but I'm saying he's like he probably like
Speaker 3: what who what? Who? Who is this? I just I
Speaker 3: told you what he's trying to do. Uh, get get
Speaker 3: your name out there. You do something, you do something
Speaker 3: you ain't got little bit. It's no different than that reporter,
Speaker 3: that reporter with right, yeah, the reporter. Just listen, throw your.
Speaker 2: Name out there, throw the bait, throw the fish. Everybody
Speaker 2: gonna bite, okay, boom not ask the cameras on me. Now,
Speaker 2: I guess he was. I guess he was in Kansas
Speaker 2: last year. Oh yoe, huh, he was at Kansas. He
Speaker 2: could play college ball at Kansas last year. Thanks, he
Speaker 2: would like that. I don't know what did Travis do well?
Speaker 1: I mean, he was undrafted, so I don't know if
Speaker 1: he has decent speed.
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. I don't know. Hey, Chack, Chack,
Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant like that. Let me know, now, let me know,
Speaker 3: let me know. No, I need to have a Keeves number.
Speaker 1: I called a Keeve to Lee ball or Chris Harris
Speaker 1: Junr asked them they went to Kansas, they would know more.
Speaker 3: Wait they jay Hawks?
Speaker 2: Yeah wait, how colleb get out of h He ain't
Speaker 2: go to Texas?
Speaker 1: Key would uh with the Kansas Tudy Chris Harris Junior. Oh,
Speaker 1: Chris okay, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know what. I don't know what the boys think.
Speaker 1: But I don't know what u uh prompt him? Because
Speaker 1: Lamar don't really do no talking. I mean every once
Speaker 1: I've seen I've probably seen Lamar are at more at
Speaker 1: like fashion events, uh chilling as opposed to see him
Speaker 1: doing anything else.
Speaker 3: I know, I think I don't know if he still
Speaker 3: has it.
Speaker 1: I know he used to have his his camp, his
Speaker 1: football camp, right, Lamar laid's really really.
Speaker 3: Low, oh crazy low bro.
Speaker 1: So I'm I don't I don't know what what what
Speaker 1: what prompted buddy to do this?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I tell him telling you, it's something personal.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you. We just we just don't know about it.
Speaker 3: Because nobody takes from is he from Florida? He ain't
Speaker 3: he from the crib.
Speaker 1: I'm asking Ash's looking for it now. I don't know where.
Speaker 1: I don't know where. From Evergreen, Alabama.
Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think. I don't think they
Speaker 3: had no dealings with Yo. Listen, I know he must
Speaker 3: be like that, That's all I know. Anytime you take
Speaker 3: a shot like that, that high, you got to be
Speaker 3: able to back it up with your player. So I
Speaker 3: know he must. He got to be that boy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I don't know about all that, Oh Joe.
Speaker 3: I mean, we'll see, we'll see old.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm not making I'm not making light of him
Speaker 1: being an undrafted fridgid because all I'm saying, you give
Speaker 1: me a helm and the shoulder pass and then I'll
Speaker 1: show you what I'm capable of doing. Yep, I look
Speaker 1: at it like that. So all that other stuff I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't get called him where he was this?
Speaker 3: He was that?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know. Chad, I don't know. I
Speaker 3: wish I knew.
Speaker 1: Maybe Chad, y'all can chime into chat and says, well,
Speaker 1: he said Lamar said something about this, or or he
Speaker 1: been going at Lamar for a minute. I don't know.
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't want to speculate getting a
Speaker 1: conjecture in you, Windo. All I know is that it
Speaker 1: seems from where I'm sitting. Yeah, I don't know how
Speaker 1: I owe you feel, but it seems like from where
Speaker 1: I'm sitting, he took an unprompted shot at Lamar.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and everybody knows what what that means.
Speaker 1: That means that he James Hard is sensational in the
Speaker 1: regular season become postseason not so much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, now now you got that. You gotta target now, Yeah,
Speaker 3: every every day, every time you at seven y'alls, every
Speaker 3: time you impressed. Now, this is gonna come up. So
Speaker 3: you you know you got who or you got to
Speaker 3: come to play? Right? Oh yeah for sure? Well pay anyway.
Speaker 1: But because there are a lot of guys, there are
Speaker 1: a lot of guys in this league that have the
Speaker 1: utmost respect from Lamar.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all of us.
Speaker 1: And so when you everybody, when you take a shot
Speaker 1: at him, they're like, bro, this man don't bother nobody.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people, you know, there's something that
Speaker 1: feel like, man, he should have been a three time MVP.
Speaker 1: They robbed him for that. So they, like I said,
Speaker 1: I don't know the kid so I wish him the best. Uh,
Speaker 1: but hey, he talking like that, he might he might
Speaker 1: be like, yeah on you. Yeah, we're gonna find out.
Speaker 1: He's gonna ride. I know one thing, I know who
Speaker 1: he is now. So all I want to see is
Speaker 1: if the memes and the jokes match up with the play,
Speaker 1: because it got to be it got to be balanced.
Speaker 3: It can't be one of the other. It got it
Speaker 3: got to make sense. It absolutely has to make sense.
Speaker 2: And especially like Kobe Bryant, even though it's football, you
Speaker 2: got you got to represent.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I a.
Speaker 1: They dannew Kobe Bryan obviously, I mean there have been
Speaker 1: a lot, but I mean there are a lot of Kobe's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there are a lot.
Speaker 1: Of Kobe's since that Kobe that burst onto the scene
Speaker 1: at Lord Meridian and Philly and drafted by the uh
Speaker 1: the Hornets and traded to the Lakers.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: CBS Sports ranked the twelve NFL teams most likely to
Speaker 1: win their first Super Bowl this season. Number one is
Speaker 1: the Bills, number two of the Lions, number three of
Speaker 1: the Bengals, number four of the Texans, five Chargers, six, Vikes, seven, Cardinals,
Speaker 1: eight Jazz, nine Falcons, ten Titans, eleven Panthers, twelve Browns.
Speaker 3: You like the order, yeah, I mean the order is
Speaker 3: understandable simply. I see we're at four and they have
Speaker 3: the lines in front of us. I think because we
Speaker 3: start so goddamn slow. We start so slow, and we're
Speaker 3: climbing towards the end of the season, spramling, trying to
Speaker 3: get ourselves out of hole where we haven't even got
Speaker 3: a chance to consistently, consistently be in the talks of
Speaker 3: being in contention and playoff contention each and every year.
Speaker 3: We're in a division and taking care of business early
Speaker 3: in the season, so we don't have anything to worry
Speaker 3: about now. All the team that were.
Speaker 2: Mentioned take care of business every single f in year
Speaker 2: and are least in contention and have a chance when
Speaker 2: it comes to playoffs.
Speaker 3: Lions, the Bills. Who who's the third team on here?
Speaker 1: Bill's Lions, Bengals, Texans, Chargers, Vikings. We were jack huh
Speaker 1: we were the thirteen?
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, okay, we got we're good, but we're third
Speaker 2: because of what I just said, though, that damn slow start, man,
Speaker 2: damn we gotta fix that.
Speaker 1: Man. Y'all didn't fix it soon enough. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: need that need what my daddy records? You don't mind
Speaker 1: handing it over to.
Speaker 3: Me, do you? You're talking to me? Yeah, I'm talking to you. Wait,
Speaker 3: hold on, you said you need your your daddy's records.
Speaker 3: What would that mean? I ain't never heard that before.
Speaker 3: That's some Oh that's some country ship my money.
Speaker 2: Hey, what do you call it your daddy's records? That's
Speaker 2: some Yeah, I wore by daddy records. Okay, I like
Speaker 2: that's that's a nice slang right there, Broy, Can I
Speaker 2: get that on?
Speaker 3: Yo? Hey, I'm you know what, Do me a favor.
Speaker 3: Do me a favor. What's that you got?
Speaker 2: PayPal, zim Apple, pay cash, app Venmo all you have
Speaker 2: to do right now? I would let the chat see me.
Speaker 2: I want the chat to see me. Send you your money,
Speaker 2: I send it right now.
Speaker 3: If you down, I'm gonna get it. I'll tell you
Speaker 3: what I'm gonna get. Shelley. I'm gonna get Shelley's. I
Speaker 3: think Shelley got PayPal. Okay, okay, okay, finally, let me go.
Speaker 3: We got somewhere. Let me go.
Speaker 1: Boston sports talk radio host and former New England Patriots
Speaker 1: quarterback Scott Zolac says it's possible that the Pasts could
Speaker 1: release Stefan Diggs before he ever plays it down for
Speaker 1: the team. Speaking on ninety eight to five sports ub,
Speaker 1: Zolac said the following about the potential of the Patriots
Speaker 1: cutting Digs. I came to this show yesterday with the opinion,
Speaker 1: with the opinion, not an opinion, but the knowledge that
Speaker 1: is on the table that has been thought of. And
Speaker 1: it's just not the boat. It's just not the boat.
Speaker 1: There's some other things that I've heard that puts some
Speaker 1: things into question. Are you all in here? He's Oh Joe,
Speaker 1: this is what he said. I came to this show
Speaker 1: yesterday with the opinion, not an opinion, but being not
Speaker 1: but the knowledge that it is.
Speaker 3: On the table. A whole bunch of nothing. That's what
Speaker 3: I say, Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: But you know, when you go to places like New England,
Speaker 1: you know, Oh Joe, you know how you got to move.
Speaker 1: You can't move like you can. I know it's the
Speaker 1: off season, but you can't move like you were there.
Speaker 3: Is a matter of fact. I don't even want to
Speaker 3: talk about it, talk about when you were there. Hold on,
Speaker 3: hold on, Bill BELLI say, ain't that nothing more? It's
Speaker 3: the same system Bill. Ask your question, Mike, Mike Rabel doesn't,
Speaker 3: doesn't doesn't work with a hard hand the way Bill does.
Speaker 2: Now we talk about the players, coach. Now you got
Speaker 2: Mike in there. It is a different ball game. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm sure he doesn't run that mother for like my
Speaker 2: military system. Hey, chat, Hey, I swear for God, my
Speaker 2: right hand of God.
Speaker 3: If anybody in the chat has seen the movie Full
Speaker 3: Metal Jacket, if you seen him feed it full Metal Jack,
Speaker 3: I know you saw a full metal Jacket, right, Yes,
Speaker 3: remember the beginning of the movie.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I've never been to the army, never been
Speaker 2: to the Navy, never been a marine.
Speaker 3: But the way the drill sergeant was in that movie
Speaker 3: is what it felt like. The structure, the discipline where
Speaker 3: everything had to be right, the cursing that it didn't
Speaker 3: matter who he was, who you were, everybody was suspendable.
Speaker 3: That's how Bill. That's the kind of ship, type of
Speaker 3: ship Bill ran.
Speaker 1: This is what Mike Rabel said. He wasn't happy with
Speaker 1: the video either. If something we're aware of it. Obviously,
Speaker 1: we want to make great decisions all and off the field.
Speaker 1: Any conversation that I've had with step On will remain
Speaker 1: between him and I and the club. So I would ask,
Speaker 1: you'll get joke. If it was no big deal, do
Speaker 1: you believe the head coach would have said what he said?
Speaker 1: Did any conversation or may not?
Speaker 3: A fan? WI remained he had no.
Speaker 2: Choice but to say something because everybody made a big dealer,
Speaker 2: they got there thing.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I don't worry about what the
Speaker 1: fans say. I ain't got nothing to do with that.
Speaker 1: I run the club.
Speaker 2: You have to because that's the that's the era we're in.
Speaker 2: We're in a social media era. So if there's that video,
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick ever respond? Did Bill Belichick ever respond that
Speaker 2: there were things going on?
Speaker 3: He didn't respond to and Mike they're two completely different coaches.
Speaker 1: There are different coaches. But where do you think he
Speaker 1: learned how to coach? What do you think you learn
Speaker 1: from what you're around?
Speaker 3: I have a question everybody Bill that went to be
Speaker 3: a head coach, how did they do? I'm not saying that.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm not able to do or emulate
Speaker 3: or know what he's done.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing you want to have as few
Speaker 1: of distractions. He that have few distractions. Those are the
Speaker 1: teams that normally win, not saying always. Because the Cowboys
Speaker 1: of the nineties they were so talented they had distractions
Speaker 1: in one regardless. But the question, look here for Scott
Speaker 1: Zolac to say what he said. He said, this is
Speaker 1: not an opinion. Who is Scott Zolach. He calls play
Speaker 1: by play, He does color for the Patriots. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: he was there when you was there. Okay, all right.
Speaker 1: He said, this is not he said with the opinion,
Speaker 1: not an opinion, but the knowledge that it is on
Speaker 1: the table.
Speaker 3: Now, why would have said that if it's not the case.
Speaker 3: They say a lot of things. They say a lot
Speaker 3: of things. So you say he making he's making this up. No,
Speaker 3: I just said I take it with a great AsSalt. Okay.
Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question? Yeah, who's that's You
Speaker 3: see that wide receiving room right down. That is how
Speaker 3: they do it in New England. It's the Patriot way.
Speaker 3: It ain't.
Speaker 2: You don't even have the players that have the patrioteight anymore.
Speaker 3: You can't move it.
Speaker 1: Number two have is gone, Ray Lewis is not there,
Speaker 1: Joe and Reeder not in Baltimore.
Speaker 3: You play like a raven. It's different. You're having Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: No, Tom Brady and Mark Jackson did not fit the
Speaker 1: culture in Baltimore.
Speaker 3: I don't care how great Labarrio is.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson did not fit the culture for what's in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: That was long established way before Lamar Jackson said put
Speaker 1: in Baltimore.
Speaker 3: Wait, I'm talking. I'm talking about from a skill set,
Speaker 3: Drake Maine Lamore.
Speaker 1: I talking about the culture in which you do think, Oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: the military. First of all, it's not people that go
Speaker 1: to the military the state. It's been established. The military
Speaker 1: run regardless of who's there. You set the standard, you
Speaker 1: do things a certain way. I'm not listening. I don't
Speaker 1: really know Stefan Diggs. I know he's a phenomenal receiver.
Speaker 1: I know he's coming off with an injury, and I
Speaker 1: do believe he can help the Patriots.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the best receiver there. What do he mean believe?
Speaker 3: O Joe? Was he the best receiver in Buffalo? He
Speaker 3: and then let him go? Was he was? He? He
Speaker 3: was one of the best receivers in Houston. Yes, But
Speaker 3: Nego Collin was that boy. Nego Collins damn near top five.
Speaker 3: But go ahead and ask you a question. Was Tyreek
Speaker 3: Hill the best receiver in Kansas City?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Was Randy Moss the best receiver in Minnesota? In Oakland?
Speaker 1: In New England? Was he on the best receiver in
Speaker 1: San Francisco? Was he the best receiver in Philly? Was
Speaker 1: he the best receiver in Dallas?
Speaker 3: Yeah? You see what I'm going with this? Yes, okay,
Speaker 3: I see going. So it also also, everybody didn't have
Speaker 3: to move like a goddamn robot. It's the off season.
Speaker 3: He's on the bones. Okay, Now, everybody don't want to
Speaker 3: fuck it live like that fucking barring. Oh Joe, he's
Speaker 3: oh Joe, you you you killing the messenger. No, no, no,
Speaker 3: stay with me. You're talking. Listen, listen to me. Save
Speaker 3: with me real quick. When you operating a different manner
Speaker 3: you are, Stay with me. I love you to death.
Speaker 3: You operating a different matter from New England. They have
Speaker 3: a certain way to do things.
Speaker 2: Everybody's not living life born like a fucking robot.
Speaker 3: Everybody operate that way. But here's the thing. He gets
Speaker 3: nothing on.
Speaker 2: He's on the boat and that that's it. Oh j
Speaker 2: They listen, they talk about. He knows he's being filmed,
Speaker 2: so whatever he's passing out is not what people are
Speaker 2: saying it is. I'm sure he told Rabel that it
Speaker 2: was harmless.
Speaker 3: O Joe. All I'm saying is is that excuse me?
Speaker 1: In certain situations you have to move accordingly. I understand
Speaker 1: that in this off season that should be my free time.
Speaker 1: But you just have to you know, you have to
Speaker 1: move a certain way. I got all I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 1: with you, but listen, I get like I listen.
Speaker 2: We're in a different time where at a different time,
Speaker 2: players are a look different. You ain't going nowhere, you know,
Speaker 2: my chief, Bass ain't going nowhere. I've been in mind
Speaker 2: me all my life. I've been on the boat one
Speaker 2: time in two thousand and I threw up. I ain't
Speaker 2: been on the boat since. So I mean just I'm
Speaker 2: just looking at it from a different landscape. Not defending
Speaker 2: Stefan Das at all. I'm just looking at it from
Speaker 2: a different standpoint of Damn, these boys can't even live
Speaker 2: their life.
Speaker 3: Cameras everywhere. You really can't do nothing. You ain't go
Speaker 3: to where.
Speaker 1: But you know it was like that in New England,
Speaker 1: don't yo because guess who's still there, mister Kraft.
Speaker 3: Oh you think he's on You think he's on board
Speaker 3: with this? You know how he is? Yeah? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: But but listen, they had one year, right, yes, they
Speaker 3: gave they fired what's name after after? Come on, what's
Speaker 3: his name? Huh? Oh? Rod Mayo? Male, Rod Mayo. They
Speaker 3: gave him one year, you know, Priday.
Speaker 2: So now Brave's there, we want to turn things around
Speaker 2: fast as possible, get all the pieces around a quarterback
Speaker 2: and Drake may you played very well last year, and
Speaker 2: they wanted to make another leap this year, giving him
Speaker 2: all the right pieces and players that make him job easier.
Speaker 3: Steph R. Jiggs is one of those players that makes
Speaker 3: him job easier in that in that wide receiver room.
Speaker 3: Veteran presence, very good receiver, one of the better rock
Speaker 3: runners of the league despite acl injury. Hell, he wanted
Speaker 3: the better rock runers in the league, but one motherfucking leg.
Speaker 3: Excuse me for cursing, but I understand what happened. Steph
Speaker 3: probably won't have this issue again, probably won't be on
Speaker 3: these boats again, probably won't be around cameras again. But
Speaker 3: he's still the same life he's always lived. This is.
Speaker 3: This has always been him. I'm sure you know I
Speaker 3: know him personally, and just what we saw isn't what
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 1: And I just think the thing is is that you
Speaker 1: have to understand where you're like, Okay, maybe they allowed
Speaker 1: you to do that in Buffalo, allowed you to do
Speaker 1: that in Houston, but you know when you go to Meddico,
Speaker 1: New England, they operated on a different set of rules.
Speaker 1: They do they and they and they really and they
Speaker 1: really do because mister Craft, you know, you like a
Speaker 1: little distraction as possible. Uh, even though Coach Belichick the patrio,
Speaker 1: I guarantee you they still got to sign up. Say,
Speaker 1: even Coach Belichick is gone, actual radio is gone, they
Speaker 1: probably still got a thing up that says the Patriot Way,
Speaker 1: just like the Ravens have up.
Speaker 3: Play like a raven. Yeah, absolutely, And culture was established
Speaker 3: a long time ago.
Speaker 1: And the thing is is that what helped Baltimore is
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Lamar came in and he bought into
Speaker 1: that culture. Play to a standard. I'm playing. All that
Speaker 1: other stuff don't even matter. Yeah, I played to the coach.
Speaker 1: I played like a raven. The Ray Lewis is and
Speaker 1: the Rod Woodson's and and and and the Terrell Suggs
Speaker 1: and Ed Reed myself when I was there. There's a
Speaker 1: standard in what you play to and it helps when
Speaker 1: you don't have a Ray Lewis and all those guys.
Speaker 3: There, but you still have a Lamar.
Speaker 1: And so Lamar's job is make sure the guys that
Speaker 1: hopefully has another decade that he tread like little guys.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be here forever.
Speaker 1: But well, there's a tradition here and your job is
Speaker 1: to uphold that. So yeah, it's it's it's just a
Speaker 1: different time now, Oh Joe, it's different.
Speaker 3: It's it is really really different, and it is it's
Speaker 3: so funny. I'm not gonna go there. I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: go there, but we talk about you know what, I
Speaker 3: ain't ain't gonna do it because we talked about the Patriots,
Speaker 3: and you know, you know what, I'm gonna leave it wrong.
Speaker 1: Brad Holmes, Yeah, he's the general manager of the Alliance, right,
Speaker 1: takes report of the task overpast criticism.
Speaker 3: Let's take a listen to what he had to say
Speaker 3: with Joe.
Speaker 4: He looked back at those picks, and those picks were
Speaker 4: not welcomed by many in this room.
Speaker 3: You know, day. You want to expect quarterback.
Speaker 4: You didn't want us to pick nay Sewell, you know,
Speaker 4: people didn't want us to wait to the.
Speaker 3: Fourth round to draft a wide receiver.
Speaker 4: But every single move was intentional. I think you al
Speaker 4: would expect me to be accountable when I'm up here
Speaker 4: when things don't go right. You would expect me to
Speaker 4: be accountable when you heard so much negativity about our draft,
Speaker 4: and then when I said, look, wait till they start
Speaker 4: playing football, It'll be appreciative. When they started saying football
Speaker 4: and people start giving credit, the negativity kind of just
Speaker 4: everybody forgot about it. I give I give probably two
Speaker 4: people credit in this room that said, you know, I
Speaker 4: was wrong.
Speaker 3: Hmm. I like that. I like that. I like the
Speaker 3: fact that he can sit up there and actually do
Speaker 3: that and let the media know that you guys don't
Speaker 3: know the game like I do.
Speaker 2: I know what I'm doing when I'm in that war room.
Speaker 2: I've studied you guys might have been y'all might be
Speaker 2: a part of the media. You might be unless you
Speaker 2: might understand the game, but you don't know it as
Speaker 2: well as I do.
Speaker 3: That's why I'm in a position I'm in now, picking and.
Speaker 2: Choosing what our team needs, what our needs are, what
Speaker 2: players best fit our system.
Speaker 3: And he hasn't missed yet. Yoh made the trade for
Speaker 3: dark Dalker. What iffing reporter complained about.
Speaker 1: But they s getting drafted because they wanted him to
Speaker 1: take they wanted him to take Chase.
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, oh understandable. But listen, you didn't miss with
Speaker 3: Jamison Williamson and aman Ross Saint Brown. Now it ain't
Speaker 3: a winner, but you're still some dogs.
Speaker 1: You got Brian Bradge, you got jam Gibson, and you
Speaker 1: got in target Arms Arnold there.
Speaker 3: Carry on, terry On Arnold. Yeah, he's nice, he's nice.
Speaker 3: You got him, Hey, we.
Speaker 2: Get him a doughter stopped holding and use his feet
Speaker 2: a little bit more. You got Hutchinson's gonna be all right.
Speaker 2: You got Hutchison. Uh oh, because here's the thing. When
Speaker 2: guys missed. Oh, you could have had this guy, You
Speaker 2: could have had that guy. You quick to write that
Speaker 2: in the paper. Well write that in the paper. How
Speaker 2: good Brad Holmes has been with his draft selection and
Speaker 2: he hasn't missed. Hey, you have a questions?
Speaker 3: Was he there when they drafted?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Is it not? Ornette? There's another there's another there's another
Speaker 3: DV that.
Speaker 2: I really like from Ohio State that went that I
Speaker 2: think he got drafted to.
Speaker 3: Oh you talk about uh he? I really liked him
Speaker 3: in What's the Guy named? He went to Atlanta? He was, yeah,
Speaker 3: I know you uh Ocuda Jeff Ocuda? No, Jeff for cutera. Hey,
Speaker 3: I like the young boy. Where Jeff o'cuter? Now? Anybody
Speaker 3: know if anybody in the chat know where Jeff is now?
Speaker 1: I really like I realize like I think he only
Speaker 1: like his third or fourteen.
Speaker 2: No, it's only like your your four, you're three or
Speaker 2: four for him?
Speaker 3: Okay, Hey, I like it. I like him. Man, Hey,
Speaker 3: that guy damn Brian Bridge.
Speaker 1: What team is he on now? Because he got traded?
Speaker 1: I think they traded him. Yeah, but where is he?
Speaker 1: Yeah he got drafted to Detroit. Though he got drafted
Speaker 1: to Detroit. He was in Atlanta, he was in Houston.
Speaker 1: Now he's on Minnesota. I said he's on his third
Speaker 1: or fourteen now.
Speaker 3: Damn, Yeah, I wonder why.
Speaker 1: Kell all though you was talking about like, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: not there, No, he's on his third or I know
Speaker 1: he's not there. I'm just I'm just so upset. But
Speaker 1: I knew he was on his third or fourth team.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okayok okay. Yeah, yeah, I like him. I
Speaker 3: like oh yo oh. Jay said he never wanted to
Speaker 3: leave the Giants. I never ever wanted to leave New
Speaker 3: York Giants. The reason you heard me.
Speaker 1: Talking about what I was going on was because I
Speaker 1: was pissed because where I come from in college, if
Speaker 1: we lost one game.
Speaker 3: I'll see this was over. This was the organization I
Speaker 3: got drafted to. They believed in me.
Speaker 1: So if the Giants went and won the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: I would be happy. But deep down inside I wanted
Speaker 1: to be the one, no question, So it's definitely you'll
Speaker 1: always hold that. But then someone like me went the
Speaker 1: Rams won the Super Bowl, but still you just want back.
Speaker 1: Odell has bounced around between five teams since joining the
Speaker 1: NFL in twenty fourteen. Yeah, man, Odell, Man, don't realize,
Speaker 1: oh yoll, you and I both I played on two teams.
Speaker 1: You played on two teams. You don't realize how good
Speaker 1: you got it.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 1: Everybody always thinks it's better somewhere else, and I can.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have so many more catches, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have so many more yards and i'ma have so many
Speaker 1: more touchdowns and everything that you need is right where
Speaker 1: you are.
Speaker 3: Yep, you know what. But he was in a situation
Speaker 3: where he didn't want to leave. He didn't want to
Speaker 3: leave on he was he was, he was perfect, He
Speaker 3: was perfect in me. Well, you have to you have
Speaker 3: to conduct o, Joe.
Speaker 1: You can't say I don't want to leave this job,
Speaker 1: and I conduct myself in a manner of which they're gonna.
Speaker 3: Get rid of me. Oh Joe, damn, are you right right?
Speaker 3: I'm don't. Don't scream at me. I'm saying no, But
Speaker 3: I'm saying he said they didn't want to leave.
Speaker 1: But do you I mean, Odell could have conducted himself
Speaker 1: in a way and they wouldn't have.
Speaker 3: He put him in up, He put him and he
Speaker 3: backed them in a corner. Yeah, yeah, you're right. He unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Man Odell's first four years, whether it's electrifying as you
Speaker 1: gonna see any receiver. You go back and look at
Speaker 1: his numbers, You look at the about the yards, about
Speaker 1: the touchdowns, the highlight plays.
Speaker 3: He was said sational. Yeah, absolutely absolutely, baby, box office baby,
Speaker 3: and he was tailor made for that because of his personality.
Speaker 3: He said it perfect, perfect, Why.
Speaker 1: Bro, he could have been Michael straight Ahead, he could
Speaker 1: have been gen I mean he had I mean he
Speaker 1: had New York eating out the palm of his hand.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. And that's the that's the perfect scenario. But
Speaker 3: you know it's funny.
Speaker 2: I think if for for Odell, if I think he's
Speaker 2: able to reflect and look back on it now, he
Speaker 2: would probably change the way.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure. The wait, not the way he
Speaker 3: acted on on the not on the field. I'm talking
Speaker 3: about on the field. Maybe some of the stuff on
Speaker 3: the sideline. Maybe some of the stuff yes that we yes,
Speaker 3: I think he'll change some of that, But for sure
Speaker 3: what he did on the field, Oh my goodness. No,
Speaker 3: he was special. He was special.
Speaker 2: Listen, I said it not too long. We had some
Speaker 2: shows a while ago. I say, he might have.
Speaker 3: Been the first two hundre million dollar receiver. And this
Speaker 3: was before they even got to the money again too.
Speaker 3: Now that's how special in box office was Well, that
Speaker 3: that's what he was trending towards. Yeah. Oh my goodness, man,
Speaker 3: he I just that's that's what I mean. I hate that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he I promise you he gonna kick himself
Speaker 1: because he knows he never should have left the Giants.
Speaker 3: He knows it.
Speaker 1: I mean what he wasted two years in Cleveland, Yeah,
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, Yeah, in Miami. The Rams was a great
Speaker 1: pickup from him. Had a quarterback to get him the ball.
Speaker 1: He had an offensive coordinator that knew how to get
Speaker 1: him the ball. He had Cooper Cup that was playing phenomenal.
Speaker 1: So when they double Cup, he's working one on one.
Speaker 1: You remember the game he had against Tampa, because they're
Speaker 1: trying to double Cooper Cup.
Speaker 3: He goes for a hundred. Cooper Cup still get his
Speaker 3: one hundred.
Speaker 1: He was playing well in the championship game against the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, played well in the Super Bowl, had
Speaker 1: a touch caught the first touchdown towards knee up.
Speaker 3: That's the second time he had torn that knee up. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and just and then all of you know, he broke
Speaker 3: his ankle. I think he broke his ankle.
Speaker 1: There's only so much There's only so much twitch you
Speaker 1: got in your body. Only so much twitch you got,
Speaker 1: o Joe, There's only so much you got. He was phenomenal.
Speaker 1: I mean his hands, his route running, his his his uh.
Speaker 1: He played a lot bigger than his his stature.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, he run after the catch. I was just I
Speaker 3: was just, Hey, what is it about every goddamn LSU
Speaker 3: and Alabama receiver? They are phenomenal with the ball in
Speaker 3: their hands. Phenomenon Jettis Chase, Brian Thiman Jr. Julio Jones, Jerry.
Speaker 1: Judy, Elik neighbors elite man because each one teach one,
Speaker 1: they go back and they teach. You know, Julio and
Speaker 1: you got Calvin Ridley, and you got Amari Cooper, you
Speaker 1: got you got Waddle, and you got Davante and you
Speaker 1: got you know, you got Judy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one thing to be able to run rouse
Speaker 2: but then they got the other half.
Speaker 3: All them can run.
Speaker 1: Roddy White, says Kyle Shanahan, told him he'd rather throw
Speaker 1: the ball to Jacob Tammy than Roddy. With the game
Speaker 1: on the line, Shanahan told Roddy he was in the
Speaker 1: top four option on the twenty fifteen team.
Speaker 3: Man. Shanahan lyon, like crazy man, we talk about Roddy
Speaker 3: White Bright not just anybody. We talk about Roddy White,
Speaker 3: but at War eighty four, huh as at Atlanta legend
Speaker 3: to me a player I used to watch you talk
Speaker 3: about Roddy playing that Julio had. He said that for real.
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's what Roddy White said. Hell,
Speaker 1: I wasn't there, hey, Roddy White. Julio had two hundred
Speaker 1: and three targets. He had one hundred and thirty six catches,
Speaker 1: eighteen hundred and seventy one yards, eight touchdown. Jacob Tammy
Speaker 1: had eighty one targets, fifty nine catches, six hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty seven yards, one touchdown. Davonta Freeman he had ninety
Speaker 1: seven targets, seventy three catches, five seventy eight yards, three touchdowns.
Speaker 3: Roddy White had.
Speaker 1: Seventy targets, forty three catches, five hundred and six yards
Speaker 1: eleven point eight yards per catch, one touchdown.
Speaker 3: Well, what was this his last year or Sam? I
Speaker 3: think it was his last year in Atlanta? Oh? Was that?
Speaker 3: I was? See why the numbers look like that? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I see what I look at.
Speaker 1: I don't know something. I know something about Kyle. I've
Speaker 1: known him since he was a kid. Yeah, played for
Speaker 1: his dad. He had a lot of dad. He got
Speaker 1: a guy like Julio was this guy. Yeah, hope Julio
Speaker 1: gets a blow, because that's when the ball will come
Speaker 1: your way. Oh he gonna feed. Oh, his number one
Speaker 1: receiver gonna get fat. That's the that's the way the
Speaker 1: West Coast system work.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, most.
Speaker 1: Look at Jerry, look at t O in that system.
Speaker 1: Look at my brother and that's did that system.
Speaker 3: And look at look at Cooper Cup Tripper, Crown Yere,
Speaker 3: look at pool drafting pool in the core. Okay, Booma,
Speaker 3: same thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go back and look at Green Bay when it
Speaker 1: was Antonio Freeman and all those that West.
Speaker 2: K a green green Bay still run West Coast, but
Speaker 2: it is my committee now. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna have
Speaker 2: a goddamn dad.
Speaker 1: Well that's what that's what Jacoby said. That's what uh
Speaker 1: uh uh Jacobs said. We need a dog. Hm, you
Speaker 1: need one guy that you can throw the ball to
Speaker 1: and he gonna, hey, he gonna go get it.
Speaker 3: But uh like I, you know, you asked me, I
Speaker 3: don't know, I don't know
Speaker 1: The volume