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Speaker 1: The volume. The Cowboys head coach Brian Schottenheimer says Dak

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Speaker 1: is still in developmental phase. I think Dak is in

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Speaker 1: the developmental phase, and that sounds crazy for a guy

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Speaker 1: who's played as much. But there are things were tweaking

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Speaker 1: with Dak. Dak is entering his tenth NFL season.

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Speaker 2: What you think, I'm trying to understand developmental phase? At

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Speaker 2: what point in year ten? Is something developmental at this point?

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Speaker 2: Especially when it says it's not the same offense, it's

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Speaker 2: the same offense from last year.

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Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, right, Nah, I guess he's gonna

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Speaker 1: implement his because that was Mike McCarthy's offense.

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Speaker 2: If that's the case, then he is in the developmental

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Speaker 2: stage because he having to learn the new offense, all

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Speaker 2: the new nuances and all the intricacies of that new offense.

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Speaker 2: So I totally understand. I mean, that gives me better context.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, that's understandable, that's understandable. I'm excited for

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Speaker 2: Dak Man. I'm excited for Dak. I just hope they're

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Speaker 2: ready to I just hope they're ready to use use

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Speaker 2: pick the right way. Ceedee Lamb is gonna get his regardless,

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Speaker 2: especially when he plays in the slot. He's when he

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Speaker 2: was ceedee Lamb is in the slot. The creased mismatches

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Speaker 2: regards to who they're playing.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter who they're planning. And we know what

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Speaker 3: Pick can do on the outside. You can take a

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Speaker 3: short and hit his head off the gold post, or

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Speaker 3: he can go deep.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah you gotta. I mean, look, they should be

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Speaker 1: really explosive in the passing game. We're gonna see. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they protected because you know, you lose. I mean, Zach

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Speaker 1: Martin is retired.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: The offensive line whether it was kind of shaky last year,

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Speaker 1: old Joe. So let's see what they what how have

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Speaker 1: they uh uh shored up that the running Game Blue

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Speaker 1: had some really good games. So it's gonna be it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be. Uh, it's gonna be very interesting to see

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Speaker 1: what the Cowboys are offensively as far as protection. If

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Speaker 1: we don't look, Oh, you can have all all the

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Speaker 1: guys you want, but you gonna protect your quarterback ain't

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Speaker 1: gonna do you no good.

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Speaker 3: At all at all. That goes for the Cowboys, they

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Speaker 3: goes for my Bengals. They goes to the.

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Speaker 2: Goddamn Chiefs down there in Kansas City, Yeah, and who else?

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Speaker 3: But hell, the the Eagles don't gotten in the world

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Speaker 3: about for a long time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Eagles got the best offensive line in

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Speaker 1: football though. Hell they got the best line in football too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but but I'm looking at it. I mean, think about it.

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Speaker 1: Look at the right tackle and the left tackle. You

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Speaker 1: got Lane Johnson and my Latta. You got your center.

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Speaker 1: You replace it with Justson Kelsey, and you replace Jason

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Speaker 1: Kelsey and that guy he's in the damn near All Pro.

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Speaker 1: But he goes to the Pro Bowl and you look

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Speaker 1: at Dixon mm hmm, one of your best guards. I mean,

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Speaker 1: so they good. They set for the foreseeable future at

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Should that be embarrassed that Brian Schottenheimer said that he's

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Speaker 1: in the developmental state phase?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not, because if you learn in the new offense,

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Speaker 2: it's completely differ and you have to rewire and relearn everything,

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Speaker 2: even though you played the game for ten years. So

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Speaker 2: saying he's in a development of today at this time,

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Speaker 2: whether the NTA, it's acceptable acceptable because that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: It's a time for you to develop and learn. Everything

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Speaker 2: that comes with.

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Speaker 3: That offers going to be completely different in what you

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Speaker 1: Es Ben Jeremy Fowler reports that Kyle Pitts would be

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Speaker 1: open to a trade even though he's not necessarily looking

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Speaker 1: So I checked with the source who said that, look,

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Speaker 1: if Atlanta gets the right counter deal for Kyle Pits,

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Speaker 1: it could very well could come together. This is not

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Speaker 1: a situation where he's requesting a trade, but if he

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Speaker 1: where he's more featured.

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Speaker 3: He's sort of a third or.

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Speaker 1: Fourth wheel right now in Atlanta and could be something

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Speaker 2: I like it, and he wouldn't be a third or

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Speaker 2: understand after the a c l he has, he hasn't

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Speaker 3: He just hasn't. And if if you watch him close,

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Speaker 3: there's a there's a slight limp when he when he

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Speaker 3: he is, he's still very good now that he's recovered

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Speaker 3: featured more. Well, yeah, yeah, I think that.

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Speaker 2: I mean where that would be, I'm not sure. That's

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Speaker 2: the problem. That's the that's the problem.

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Speaker 3: I think he'd be great in Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's nasty, a player like Kyle Pitts of his

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Speaker 2: we always talked about Hockinson.

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Speaker 3: And then ride.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bowers, listen, he was e above everyone I just

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Speaker 2: How many of those dudes I just named go up

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Speaker 3: Ain't a whole lot of them. I mean, you know

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Speaker 3: they're they're versatile now.

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Speaker 1: But this guy had moved, he had wiggle, Like you said,

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Speaker 1: he could run, he could run the route, he can

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Speaker 3: And so yeah, he was. He was special. And but

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Speaker 3: now he's two years removed from that. A C. L.

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Speaker 3: Now even his fifth year, isn't it? Or was his

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Speaker 3: fourth year? Thanks in this it should be four. I

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Speaker 3: think it's her fourth for Kyle. If I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna be he gonna be all right good. This

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Speaker 3: is fifty or fourth year.

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Speaker 1: Because uh, because I don't think they picked up his

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Speaker 3: Little that's a little motivation right there. It is little motivation.

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Speaker 3: One two, three, four, five, fifth year?

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Speaker 2: Hey, listen, and I hope, I hope Michael Penning Jr.

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Speaker 2: Knows they didn't pick up that fifty year option.

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Speaker 3: And throwing the ball every play on purpose, So we

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Speaker 3: in off season? Oh, y'all, what's that?

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Speaker 1: Falcons undrafted free agent Kobe Bryant spelled co O b

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Speaker 1: e E. Kobe Brant went after Lamar Jackson on snapchat.

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Speaker 3: Take a look at the picture. Is that hard? Yep?

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Speaker 3: And what buddy doing? What what I mean? Great regular season,

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Speaker 3: undrafted free agent? But what's what's up with buddy? Hey?

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Speaker 3: Dot me say that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, listen, that is that that's that might be

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Speaker 2: some personal Maybe that's some personal We don't know about it.

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Speaker 3: Bro, Bro, I don't know. Look, you already know.

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Speaker 1: I only know when Kobe Bryant rest is soul, yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: and they spelled it like the state. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know this young man. And he might turn out to

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Speaker 1: be a phenomenal player, and I hope he does. Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: but it's a little early for you to be to

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Speaker 1: make talking this kind of noise. Now you need to

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Speaker 1: be past, sir, Tad. You need to be Jay Ram,

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Speaker 1: You need to be one of them big dogs Stingley Junior.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you want to take a shot. Okay, you're gonna

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Speaker 3: get that. Come on now, well hold on, hold on,

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Speaker 3: he got you got my attention. Now you got Kobe Bryant. Uh, Bro,

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Speaker 3: you ain't gonna be playing no attention. We got bigger

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Speaker 3: fish to be worried about him. Hold on, but no,

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Speaker 3: we got bigger fister. But if you take shots like this,

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Speaker 3: right you? Yes that boy? Yes, now you've got Now

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Speaker 3: you got my attention. So I'm trying to see what

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Speaker 1: Well, hey, I sure hope they played the Ravens so

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Speaker 1: we can find out.

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Speaker 3: Hold on what position he played?

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Speaker 1: Your corner right Oh here, car, Yeah, this man put

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Speaker 1: James hardened head on Lamar jacksonbody with the numb and everything.

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Speaker 3: Okay, who we played for the Hawk? I mean the Falcons. Okay,

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Speaker 3: they the schedule out Do the Ravens play the Falcons

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Speaker 3: this year? I don't know the Falcons play the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna call I'm gonna call

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Speaker 2: a J. Terrell and asked A J. Terrell if Kobe Bryant.

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Speaker 3: Really liked that. Yeah, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta,

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Speaker 3: I gotta watch some film on Young Bull. Normally, when

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Speaker 3: you talk like this, so you you know, you throw

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Speaker 3: a little shade, that means that means you like that.

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Speaker 1: Man, that's a big old tree. That ain't no little shade.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't know what he was thinking

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Speaker 1: But people trying to people try to figure out why

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Speaker 3: Hell, I don't know. I don't know either. That's why

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Speaker 3: the first thing I said is maybe this is something

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Speaker 3: personal that we don't know about. Well, he should go

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Speaker 3: to Lamar because most of them, most of the.

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Speaker 2: Time when you're young, like that coming into the NFL,

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Speaker 2: yours respect, your elders, especially the great was like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet I they tell you man them ain't

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Speaker 3: I don't, man, I would have never. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's just hard. But go ahead. I mean, look, that's

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Speaker 1: that he Look, we love the First Amendment. He has

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Speaker 1: a right to say what they wants to say. Yeah, hey, bro,

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Speaker 1: you have to go out there and back that up.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so now you're putting now you put the

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Speaker 1: Not too right right now, you got to alligate a

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Speaker 1: mouth now, don't let don't have no humming bird ass.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, I'm not. I'm depending pay of that now,

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Speaker 3: got to use that.

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Speaker 1: Oh, they played the Ravens. They play the Ravens next year.

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Speaker 1: Now Lamar beat up on you out about that. They

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Speaker 1: need to get this thing or they need to get

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Hey, they say hey, Lamar probably say hey, harbad, y'all

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Speaker 1: play it, El Jackson, I play it. Hey, man, Labar

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Speaker 3: Or somebody probably sitting to say, hey, don what's up

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Speaker 1: Probably like who do look what I sent you?

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Speaker 3: And one one thing about one thing by eight. He

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Speaker 3: don't talk. He ain't eve gonna respond, He ain't forna

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Speaker 3: I know, but I'm saying he's like he probably like

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Speaker 3: what who what? Who? Who is this? I just I

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Speaker 3: told you what he's trying to do. Uh, get get

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Speaker 3: your name out there. You do something, you do something

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Speaker 3: you ain't got little bit. It's no different than that reporter,

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Speaker 3: that reporter with right, yeah, the reporter. Just listen, throw your.

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Speaker 2: Name out there, throw the bait, throw the fish. Everybody

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Speaker 2: And especially like Kobe Bryant, even though it's football, you

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports ranked the twelve NFL teams most likely to

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Speaker 1: Bill's Lions, Bengals, Texans, Chargers, Vikings. We were jack huh

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Speaker 1: Man. Y'all didn't fix it soon enough. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: Me, do you? You're talking to me? Yeah, I'm talking to you. Wait,

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Speaker 2: Hey, what do you call it your daddy's records? That's

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Speaker 2: PayPal, zim Apple, pay cash, app Venmo all you have

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Speaker 2: I want the chat to see me. Send you your money,

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Speaker 1: quarterback Scott Zolac says it's possible that the Pasts could

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Speaker 1: Zolac said the following about the potential of the Patriots

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Speaker 1: There's some other things that I've heard that puts some

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Speaker 3: On the table. A whole bunch of nothing. That's what

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Speaker 1: But you know, when you go to places like New England,

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Speaker 3: If anybody in the chat has seen the movie Full

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Speaker 3: That's how Bill. That's the kind of ship, type of

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Speaker 1: This is what Mike Rabel said. He wasn't happy with

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Speaker 3: A fan? WI remained he had no.

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Speaker 2: Choice but to say something because everybody made a big dealer,

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I don't worry about what the

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Speaker 2: You have to because that's the that's the era we're in.

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Speaker 3: He didn't respond to and Mike they're two completely different coaches.

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Speaker 1: There are different coaches. But where do you think he

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Speaker 3: I have a question everybody Bill that went to be

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Speaker 1: of the nineties they were so talented they had distractions

433
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Speaker 1: in one regardless. But the question, look here for Scott

434
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: Zolac to say what he said. He said, this is

435
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: not an opinion. Who is Scott Zolach. He calls play

436
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: by play, He does color for the Patriots. Okay, okay,

437
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: he was there when you was there. Okay, all right.

438
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 1: He said, this is not he said with the opinion,

439
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: not an opinion, but the knowledge that it is on

440
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: the table.

441
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 3: Now, why would have said that if it's not the case.

442
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,959
Speaker 3: They say a lot of things. They say a lot

443
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 3: of things. So you say he making he's making this up. No,

444
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 3: I just said I take it with a great AsSalt. Okay.

445
00:22:55,200 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question? Yeah, who's that's You

446
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 3: see that wide receiving room right down. That is how

447
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 3: they do it in New England. It's the Patriot way.

448
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 3: It ain't.

449
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 2: You don't even have the players that have the patrioteight anymore.

450
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 3: You can't move it.

451
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: Number two have is gone, Ray Lewis is not there,

452
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: Joe and Reeder not in Baltimore.

453
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 3: You play like a raven. It's different. You're having Lamar Jackson.

454
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: No, Tom Brady and Mark Jackson did not fit the

455
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: culture in Baltimore.

456
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 3: I don't care how great Labarrio is.

457
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson did not fit the culture for what's in Baltimore.

458
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: That was long established way before Lamar Jackson said put

459
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: in Baltimore.

460
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 3: Wait, I'm talking. I'm talking about from a skill set,

461
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 3: Drake Maine Lamore.

462
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: I talking about the culture in which you do think, Oh, Joe,

463
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: the military. First of all, it's not people that go

464
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: to the military the state. It's been established. The military

465
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 1: run regardless of who's there. You set the standard, you

466
00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: do things a certain way. I'm not listening. I don't

467
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 1: really know Stefan Diggs. I know he's a phenomenal receiver.

468
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 1: I know he's coming off with an injury, and I

469
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: do believe he can help the Patriots.

470
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the best receiver there. What do he mean believe?

471
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 3: O Joe? Was he the best receiver in Buffalo? He

472
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 3: and then let him go? Was he was? He? He

473
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 3: was one of the best receivers in Houston. Yes, But

474
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 3: Nego Collin was that boy. Nego Collins damn near top five.

475
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,719
Speaker 3: But go ahead and ask you a question. Was Tyreek

476
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 3: Hill the best receiver in Kansas City?

477
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 4: Yeah?

478
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: Was Randy Moss the best receiver in Minnesota? In Oakland?

479
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: In New England? Was he on the best receiver in

480
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: San Francisco? Was he the best receiver in Philly? Was

481
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: he the best receiver in Dallas?

482
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? You see what I'm going with this? Yes, okay,

483
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 3: I see going. So it also also, everybody didn't have

484
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 3: to move like a goddamn robot. It's the off season.

485
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 3: He's on the bones. Okay, Now, everybody don't want to

486
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 3: fuck it live like that fucking barring. Oh Joe, he's

487
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 3: oh Joe, you you you killing the messenger. No, no, no,

488
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 3: stay with me. You're talking. Listen, listen to me. Save

489
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 3: with me real quick. When you operating a different manner

490
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 3: you are, Stay with me. I love you to death.

491
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 3: You operating a different matter from New England. They have

492
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 3: a certain way to do things.

493
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 2: Everybody's not living life born like a fucking robot.

494
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 3: Everybody operate that way. But here's the thing. He gets

495
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: nothing on.

496
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: He's on the boat and that that's it. Oh j

497
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 2: They listen, they talk about. He knows he's being filmed,

498
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 2: so whatever he's passing out is not what people are

499
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 2: saying it is. I'm sure he told Rabel that it

500
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: was harmless.

501
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 3: O Joe. All I'm saying is is that excuse me?

502
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: In certain situations you have to move accordingly. I understand

503
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: that in this off season that should be my free time.

504
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: But you just have to you know, you have to

505
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,239
Speaker 1: move a certain way. I got all I'm saying. I'm

506
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: with you, but listen, I get like I listen.

507
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 2: We're in a different time where at a different time,

508
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 2: players are a look different. You ain't going nowhere, you know,

509
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: my chief, Bass ain't going nowhere. I've been in mind

510
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: me all my life. I've been on the boat one

511
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: time in two thousand and I threw up. I ain't

512
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 2: been on the boat since. So I mean just I'm

513
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 2: just looking at it from a different landscape. Not defending

514
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 2: Stefan Das at all. I'm just looking at it from

515
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: a different standpoint of Damn, these boys can't even live

516
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 2: their life.

517
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 3: Cameras everywhere. You really can't do nothing. You ain't go

518
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 3: to where.

519
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: But you know it was like that in New England,

520
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: don't yo because guess who's still there, mister Kraft.

521
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 3: Oh you think he's on You think he's on board

522
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 3: with this? You know how he is? Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

523
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: But but listen, they had one year, right, yes, they

524
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 3: gave they fired what's name after after? Come on, what's

525
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: his name? Huh? Oh? Rod Mayo? Male, Rod Mayo. They

526
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 3: gave him one year, you know, Priday.

527
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 2: So now Brave's there, we want to turn things around

528
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: fast as possible, get all the pieces around a quarterback

529
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: and Drake may you played very well last year, and

530
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: they wanted to make another leap this year, giving him

531
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: all the right pieces and players that make him job easier.

532
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 3: Steph R. Jiggs is one of those players that makes

533
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: him job easier in that in that wide receiver room.

534
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: Veteran presence, very good receiver, one of the better rock

535
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 3: runners of the league despite acl injury. Hell, he wanted

536
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: the better rock runers in the league, but one motherfucking leg.

537
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 3: Excuse me for cursing, but I understand what happened. Steph

538
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 3: probably won't have this issue again, probably won't be on

539
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 3: these boats again, probably won't be around cameras again. But

540
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 3: he's still the same life he's always lived. This is.

541
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: This has always been him. I'm sure you know I

542
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 3: know him personally, and just what we saw isn't what

543
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:02,239
Speaker 3: it was.

544
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: And I just think the thing is is that you

545
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: have to understand where you're like, Okay, maybe they allowed

546
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: you to do that in Buffalo, allowed you to do

547
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: that in Houston, but you know when you go to Meddico,

548
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: New England, they operated on a different set of rules.

549
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: They do they and they and they really and they

550
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: really do because mister Craft, you know, you like a

551
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: little distraction as possible. Uh, even though Coach Belichick the patrio,

552
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: I guarantee you they still got to sign up. Say,

553
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: even Coach Belichick is gone, actual radio is gone, they

554
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: probably still got a thing up that says the Patriot Way,

555
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: just like the Ravens have up.

556
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 3: Play like a raven. Yeah, absolutely, And culture was established

557
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 3: a long time ago.

558
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: And the thing is is that what helped Baltimore is

559
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Lamar came in and he bought into

560
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: that culture. Play to a standard. I'm playing. All that

561
00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: other stuff don't even matter. Yeah, I played to the coach.

562
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: I played like a raven. The Ray Lewis is and

563
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: the Rod Woodson's and and and and the Terrell Suggs

564
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: and Ed Reed myself when I was there. There's a

565
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: standard in what you play to and it helps when

566
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: you don't have a Ray Lewis and all those guys.

567
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: There, but you still have a Lamar.

568
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: And so Lamar's job is make sure the guys that

569
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: hopefully has another decade that he tread like little guys.

570
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be here forever.

571
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: But well, there's a tradition here and your job is

572
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: to uphold that. So yeah, it's it's it's just a

573
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: different time now, Oh Joe, it's different.

574
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 3: It's it is really really different, and it is it's

575
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 3: so funny. I'm not gonna go there. I'm not gonna

576
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 3: go there, but we talk about you know what, I

577
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 3: ain't ain't gonna do it because we talked about the Patriots,

578
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 3: and you know, you know what, I'm gonna leave it wrong.

579
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: Brad Holmes, Yeah, he's the general manager of the Alliance, right,

580
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: takes report of the task overpast criticism.

581
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 3: Let's take a listen to what he had to say

582
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: with Joe.

583
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 4: He looked back at those picks, and those picks were

584
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 4: not welcomed by many in this room.

585
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: You know, day. You want to expect quarterback.

586
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 4: You didn't want us to pick nay Sewell, you know,

587
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 4: people didn't want us to wait to the.

588
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,959
Speaker 3: Fourth round to draft a wide receiver.

589
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 4: But every single move was intentional. I think you al

590
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 4: would expect me to be accountable when I'm up here

591
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 4: when things don't go right. You would expect me to

592
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 4: be accountable when you heard so much negativity about our draft,

593
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 4: and then when I said, look, wait till they start

594
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 4: playing football, It'll be appreciative. When they started saying football

595
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 4: and people start giving credit, the negativity kind of just

596
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 4: everybody forgot about it. I give I give probably two

597
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 4: people credit in this room that said, you know, I

598
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 4: was wrong.

599
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: Hmm. I like that. I like that. I like the

600
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 3: fact that he can sit up there and actually do

601
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 3: that and let the media know that you guys don't

602
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: know the game like I do.

603
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: I know what I'm doing when I'm in that war room.

604
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: I've studied you guys might have been y'all might be

605
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: a part of the media. You might be unless you

606
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: might understand the game, but you don't know it as

607
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: well as I do.

608
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 3: That's why I'm in a position I'm in now, picking and.

609
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: Choosing what our team needs, what our needs are, what

610
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: players best fit our system.

611
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 3: And he hasn't missed yet. Yoh made the trade for

612
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: dark Dalker. What iffing reporter complained about.

613
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: But they s getting drafted because they wanted him to

614
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: take they wanted him to take Chase.

615
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, oh understandable. But listen, you didn't miss with

616
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: Jamison Williamson and aman Ross Saint Brown. Now it ain't

617
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 3: a winner, but you're still some dogs.

618
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: You got Brian Bradge, you got jam Gibson, and you

619
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: got in target Arms Arnold there.

620
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 3: Carry on, terry On Arnold. Yeah, he's nice, he's nice.

621
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: You got him, Hey, we.

622
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 2: Get him a doughter stopped holding and use his feet

623
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: a little bit more. You got Hutchinson's gonna be all right.

624
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: You got Hutchison. Uh oh, because here's the thing. When

625
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: guys missed. Oh, you could have had this guy, You

626
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: could have had that guy. You quick to write that

627
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: in the paper. Well write that in the paper. How

628
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: good Brad Holmes has been with his draft selection and

629
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: he hasn't missed. Hey, you have a questions?

630
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: Was he there when they drafted?

631
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: Uh?

632
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: Is it not? Ornette? There's another there's another there's another

633
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 3: DV that.

634
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: I really like from Ohio State that went that I

635
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: think he got drafted to.

636
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 3: Oh you talk about uh he? I really liked him

637
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 3: in What's the Guy named? He went to Atlanta? He was, yeah,

638
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 3: I know you uh Ocuda Jeff Ocuda? No, Jeff for cutera. Hey,

639
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: I like the young boy. Where Jeff o'cuter? Now? Anybody

640
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: know if anybody in the chat know where Jeff is now?

641
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: I really like I realize like I think he only

642
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: like his third or fourteen.

643
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: No, it's only like your your four, you're three or

644
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: four for him?

645
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: Okay, Hey, I like it. I like him. Man, Hey,

646
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 3: that guy damn Brian Bridge.

647
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: What team is he on now? Because he got traded?

648
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: I think they traded him. Yeah, but where is he?

649
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: Yeah he got drafted to Detroit. Though he got drafted

650
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: to Detroit. He was in Atlanta, he was in Houston.

651
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: Now he's on Minnesota. I said he's on his third

652
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: or fourteen now.

653
00:33:54,480 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 3: Damn, Yeah, I wonder why.

654
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: Kell all though you was talking about like, yeah, he's

655
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: not there, No, he's on his third or I know

656
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: he's not there. I'm just I'm just so upset. But

657
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: I knew he was on his third or fourth team.

658
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okayok okay. Yeah, yeah, I like him. I

659
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 3: like oh yo oh. Jay said he never wanted to

660
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 3: leave the Giants. I never ever wanted to leave New

661
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: York Giants. The reason you heard me.

662
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: Talking about what I was going on was because I

663
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: was pissed because where I come from in college, if

664
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: we lost one game.

665
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: I'll see this was over. This was the organization I

666
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 3: got drafted to. They believed in me.

667
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: So if the Giants went and won the Super Bowl,

668
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: I would be happy. But deep down inside I wanted

669
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: to be the one, no question, So it's definitely you'll

670
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: always hold that. But then someone like me went the

671
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: Rams won the Super Bowl, but still you just want back.

672
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: Odell has bounced around between five teams since joining the

673
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: NFL in twenty fourteen. Yeah, man, Odell, Man, don't realize,

674
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: oh yoll, you and I both I played on two teams.

675
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: You played on two teams. You don't realize how good

676
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: you got it.

677
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 3: You.

678
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: Everybody always thinks it's better somewhere else, and I can.

679
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have so many more catches, and I'm gonna

680
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: have so many more yards and i'ma have so many

681
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: more touchdowns and everything that you need is right where

682
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: you are.

683
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 3: Yep, you know what. But he was in a situation

684
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 3: where he didn't want to leave. He didn't want to

685
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 3: leave on he was he was, he was perfect, He

686
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 3: was perfect in me. Well, you have to you have

687
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: to conduct o, Joe.

688
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 1: You can't say I don't want to leave this job,

689
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: and I conduct myself in a manner of which they're gonna.

690
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 3: Get rid of me. Oh Joe, damn, are you right right?

691
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 3: I'm don't. Don't scream at me. I'm saying no, But

692
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 3: I'm saying he said they didn't want to leave.

693
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: But do you I mean, Odell could have conducted himself

694
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: in a way and they wouldn't have.

695
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 3: He put him in up, He put him and he

696
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 3: backed them in a corner. Yeah, yeah, you're right. He unbelievable.

697
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: Man Odell's first four years, whether it's electrifying as you

698
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: gonna see any receiver. You go back and look at

699
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 1: his numbers, You look at the about the yards, about

700
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: the touchdowns, the highlight plays.

701
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: He was said sational. Yeah, absolutely absolutely, baby, box office baby,

702
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: and he was tailor made for that because of his personality.

703
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 3: He said it perfect, perfect, Why.

704
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 1: Bro, he could have been Michael straight Ahead, he could

705
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: have been gen I mean he had I mean he

706
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: had New York eating out the palm of his hand.

707
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. And that's the that's the perfect scenario. But

708
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: you know it's funny.

709
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 2: I think if for for Odell, if I think he's

710
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: able to reflect and look back on it now, he

711
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: would probably change the way.

712
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure. The wait, not the way he

713
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 3: acted on on the not on the field. I'm talking

714
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 3: about on the field. Maybe some of the stuff on

715
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: the sideline. Maybe some of the stuff yes that we yes,

716
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 3: I think he'll change some of that, But for sure

717
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 3: what he did on the field, Oh my goodness. No,

718
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 3: he was special. He was special.

719
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: Listen, I said it not too long. We had some

720
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: shows a while ago. I say, he might have.

721
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: Been the first two hundre million dollar receiver. And this

722
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 3: was before they even got to the money again too.

723
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 3: Now that's how special in box office was Well, that

724
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: that's what he was trending towards. Yeah. Oh my goodness, man,

725
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 3: he I just that's that's what I mean. I hate that.

726
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he I promise you he gonna kick himself

727
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: because he knows he never should have left the Giants.

728
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 3: He knows it.

729
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: I mean what he wasted two years in Cleveland, Yeah,

730
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, Yeah, in Miami. The Rams was a great

731
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 1: pickup from him. Had a quarterback to get him the ball.

732
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: He had an offensive coordinator that knew how to get

733
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 1: him the ball. He had Cooper Cup that was playing phenomenal.

734
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: So when they double Cup, he's working one on one.

735
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: You remember the game he had against Tampa, because they're

736
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: trying to double Cooper Cup.

737
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 3: He goes for a hundred. Cooper Cup still get his

738
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 3: one hundred.

739
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: He was playing well in the championship game against the

740
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, played well in the Super Bowl, had

741
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: a touch caught the first touchdown towards knee up.

742
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 3: That's the second time he had torn that knee up. Yeah,

743
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 3: and just and then all of you know, he broke

744
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 3: his ankle. I think he broke his ankle.

745
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: There's only so much There's only so much twitch you

746
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: got in your body. Only so much twitch you got,

747
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: o Joe, There's only so much you got. He was phenomenal.

748
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: I mean his hands, his route running, his his his uh.

749
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: He played a lot bigger than his his stature.

750
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 3: Absolutely, he run after the catch. I was just I

751
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 3: was just, Hey, what is it about every goddamn LSU

752
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 3: and Alabama receiver? They are phenomenal with the ball in

753
00:38:53,680 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 3: their hands. Phenomenon Jettis Chase, Brian Thiman Jr. Julio Jones, Jerry.

754
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: Judy, Elik neighbors elite man because each one teach one,

755
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: they go back and they teach. You know, Julio and

756
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: you got Calvin Ridley, and you got Amari Cooper, you

757
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: got you got Waddle, and you got Davante and you

758
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: got you know, you got Judy.

759
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one thing to be able to run rouse

760
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 2: but then they got the other half.

761
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 3: All them can run.

762
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: Roddy White, says Kyle Shanahan, told him he'd rather throw

763
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: the ball to Jacob Tammy than Roddy. With the game

764
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: on the line, Shanahan told Roddy he was in the

765
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: top four option on the twenty fifteen team.

766
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 3: Man. Shanahan lyon, like crazy man, we talk about Roddy

767
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 3: White Bright not just anybody. We talk about Roddy White,

768
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: but at War eighty four, huh as at Atlanta legend

769
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 3: to me a player I used to watch you talk

770
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 3: about Roddy playing that Julio had. He said that for real.

771
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's what Roddy White said. Hell,

772
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: I wasn't there, hey, Roddy White. Julio had two hundred

773
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: and three targets. He had one hundred and thirty six catches,

774
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: eighteen hundred and seventy one yards, eight touchdown. Jacob Tammy

775
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: had eighty one targets, fifty nine catches, six hundred and

776
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: fifty seven yards, one touchdown. Davonta Freeman he had ninety

777
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: seven targets, seventy three catches, five seventy eight yards, three touchdowns.

778
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 3: Roddy White had.

779
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: Seventy targets, forty three catches, five hundred and six yards

780
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: eleven point eight yards per catch, one touchdown.

781
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 3: Well, what was this his last year or Sam? I

782
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,959
Speaker 3: think it was his last year in Atlanta? Oh? Was that?

783
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 3: I was? See why the numbers look like that? Yeah,

784
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 3: I see what I look at.

785
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: I don't know something. I know something about Kyle. I've

786
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: known him since he was a kid. Yeah, played for

787
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: his dad. He had a lot of dad. He got

788
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: a guy like Julio was this guy. Yeah, hope Julio

789
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: gets a blow, because that's when the ball will come

790
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: your way. Oh he gonna feed. Oh, his number one

791
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: receiver gonna get fat. That's the that's the way the

792
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: West Coast system work.

793
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, most.

794
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: Look at Jerry, look at t O in that system.

795
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: Look at my brother and that's did that system.

796
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 3: And look at look at Cooper Cup Tripper, Crown Yere,

797
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 3: look at pool drafting pool in the core. Okay, Booma,

798
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 3: same thing.

799
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, go back and look at Green Bay when it

800
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: was Antonio Freeman and all those that West.

801
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 2: K a green green Bay still run West Coast, but

802
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: it is my committee now. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna have

803
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 2: a goddamn dad.

804
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 1: Well that's what that's what Jacoby said. That's what uh

805
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: uh uh Jacobs said. We need a dog. Hm, you

806
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: need one guy that you can throw the ball to

807
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: and he gonna, hey, he gonna go get it.

808
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: But uh like I, you know, you asked me, I

809
00:41:59,120 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 3: don't know, I don't know

810
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: The volume