Speaker 1: Today's episode contains spoilers for episode four and five of
Speaker 1: Arcane season one. Watch those before you listen today, or don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Hey everyone, I'm.
Speaker 2: A Boo and I'm Aaron and.
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Speaker 2: Speaking of guest hosts, we have a guest with us today.
Speaker 2: It's not just you and I today, aboo, that's right,
Speaker 2: We have the wonderful Joel here to join us.
Speaker 3: Hey.
Speaker 1: Cool, Okay, so you're seeing her too, not just in
Speaker 1: my imagination.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is not a JINX haunting happening for you.
Speaker 2: Don't worry.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 4: You said you were talking about Arcane and I missed
Speaker 4: out and I was upset about it, and I was like,
Speaker 4: I have to make time in space for round two.
Speaker 3: So I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1: We're excited to have you here.
Speaker 2: Well, makes sense that you would be joining us after
Speaker 2: the time jump, so you're joining us in our more
Speaker 2: adult forms. And we're back now with episodes four and five,
Speaker 2: continuing our rewatch of Arcane season one in the lead
Speaker 2: up to season two coming out on November ninth.
Speaker 1: That's right, And Aaron, I think folks know the drill
Speaker 1: by now, so maybe today we just got right into it.
Speaker 2: Let's spend maybe twenty five minutes just belaboring the point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. How was your weekend? All right? All right?
Speaker 2: Arcane one oh four, Episode one oh four, Happy Progress Day.
Speaker 2: What a difference an episode makes, or in this case
Speaker 2: a Netflix credit skip intro because we're skipping the intro obviously.
Speaker 2: We are back in pilt Over the day before Progress Day,
Speaker 2: which is a very important holiday here, and Jason Victor's
Speaker 2: work with hex Tech has completely revolutionized Piltover and has
Speaker 2: established the city as an economic powerhouse, specifically thanks to
Speaker 2: the Heck Gates, which are teleportation easy transport transit between
Speaker 2: major cities. And Heimer Dinger comes in talking to Jase
Speaker 2: and he asks him to be the keynote speaker at
Speaker 2: Progress Day this year. And this is a shock because,
Speaker 2: as we learn, Heimer Dinger has been the speakrit Progress
Speaker 2: Day for I forget how long, but an incredibly long
Speaker 2: amount of time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's old enough that I think he has also
Speaker 1: forgotten how long?
Speaker 2: Yes, I think when Heimerdinger started doing I also have
Speaker 2: such a hard time saying his name. When heimer Dinger
Speaker 2: started speeches at Progress Day, we were in like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, early Britney Spears catalog. Yeah, and we have
Speaker 2: now reached like Sabrina Carpenter.
Speaker 1: Right, Hammerdinger remembers when Toxic dropped.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's not even early Britney Spears. A boom. We
Speaker 2: gotta go over this later. Toxic is not early Brittany.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm watching Joelle just collapse to her chair
Speaker 1: on the screen.
Speaker 3: There you call me.
Speaker 1: So. At the Progress Day fair slash Ces, the people
Speaker 1: of Piltover are enjoying demonstrations of all this new gadgetry
Speaker 1: that the great inventors of this city have to show off. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: missus Kerman is boasting about Jase. She is, of course,
Speaker 1: his patron has helped him get to this spot. Presumably
Speaker 1: she is boasting about Jase to this gathered crowd. It's
Speaker 1: very clear to us by this point that Jace is
Speaker 1: the golden boy of this city. His face is plastered
Speaker 1: all over everything. Jace excuses himself from the crowd and
Speaker 1: goes over to bug Kate, who we learn is now
Speaker 1: an enforcer against the best wishes of her parents, which
Speaker 1: you love to see.
Speaker 2: And I think we didn't really get enough Kate in
Speaker 2: the first couple episodes. I'm excited to see a lot
Speaker 2: more of her in this episode, and obviously her role
Speaker 2: grows in next episode even more. But it's good to
Speaker 2: start getting more of her here, agree, And she's not
Speaker 2: just like sitting at the edge of the gate reading
Speaker 2: waiting for Jace to come talk to her kind of thing. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: Soko's crew is attempting to smuggle more Shimmer through the
Speaker 2: port and this very strange The shipping guard or whatever
Speaker 2: is trying to find the shipping manifest and he can't
Speaker 2: find it. Oh wait, there it is. That's a strangely
Speaker 2: shaped manifest that looks like a heavy bag of coins.
Speaker 2: That makes sense.
Speaker 1: How do you show that on your taxes?
Speaker 2: I wonder, Yeah, I think you don't. I think that's
Speaker 2: the best part of it. Yeah, you can't file that
Speaker 2: on ajan R block.
Speaker 1: Ohways, smuggling one on one. You don't do your taxes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't do your taxes.
Speaker 2: However, the shipment is attacked by rival gang, the Firelights.
Speaker 2: They come in, they have the upper hand and they
Speaker 2: try going below deck to get the goods. And who
Speaker 2: should we find but Powder, who is clearly no longer
Speaker 2: the innocent child, like not even damsel in distress, like
Speaker 2: the little kid in distress, because now she has an
Speaker 2: enormous gatling gun. The fight ensues. She blows up a
Speaker 2: bunch of stuff and she unmasks one of the firelights,
Speaker 2: who is a girl with pink hair, and she immediately
Speaker 2: loses it, thinking it's VI it's not, but she just
Speaker 2: completely is thrown off by this, unloads the gun everywhere.
Speaker 2: It's just shooting everything up. Some of the Firelights escape
Speaker 2: and the ship is basically destroyed in the process.
Speaker 3: The reveal of Jinx is so delicious.
Speaker 4: Yes, she's so fabulous, Like the long braids, the entire
Speaker 4: like character design, just using really all of her trauma
Speaker 4: as visible armor.
Speaker 3: In like her.
Speaker 4: Stance, like she stands like a kid like pigeon toad.
Speaker 4: You know, she keeps this hairstyle, she never changed.
Speaker 2: She has almost no armor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, That's what I'm.
Speaker 4: Saying though, Like it's not a physical arm, she's not
Speaker 4: physically trying to protect herself, but as like her persona
Speaker 4: is armor, Like she wears entirely all of her damage
Speaker 4: as like an fie to everybody. She's like, then I'll
Speaker 4: just explode. If it's gonna be bad, it'll be the
Speaker 4: fucking worst. I'll be the best at being the most
Speaker 4: awful and have that swing in a character that you
Speaker 4: initially have so much love for, to just drop back
Speaker 4: into her life in a point where you were like, oh,
Speaker 4: you're just a straight terrorist but also not mentally well
Speaker 4: at all, like you deeply need help, but also please
Speaker 4: don't kill people.
Speaker 3: Like it's a whole like hot mess.
Speaker 4: I just have so much respect for the artists and
Speaker 4: how they evolve the character into literally another person for
Speaker 4: us to sort of fall in love with all over again.
Speaker 4: To be honest, if you know where the series goes,
Speaker 4: not skipping ahead, but it's just it's just total like
Speaker 4: to love fest for Powder Slash Jinks.
Speaker 2: I will say along the lines of keeping her a
Speaker 2: little off kilter, and she is this dangerous person now
Speaker 2: who's very exposed. She's wearing like no sleeves since she
Speaker 2: just has tattoos all over. Her pigtails are way too long,
Speaker 2: and I think that that adds to the sense as
Speaker 2: she's whirling around with this gatling gun, like her hair
Speaker 2: is everywhere. It's like dashboard confessional, Like there's too much
Speaker 2: going on with her, and that I think adds to
Speaker 2: us being a little We're drawn into her, but we're
Speaker 2: also thrown off by her because she is she's off
Speaker 2: the hook. Yeah here, that's not the right phrase, but
Speaker 2: she's got me. I've lost my breath thinking about her
Speaker 2: shooting this gatling gun. Yeah, basically because she's aiming at fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I wish I could remember my first reaction to
Speaker 1: seeing Jinx and my first reaction to the time skip. Obviously,
Speaker 1: on this rewatch, I knew what was coming, but I
Speaker 1: vaguely remember just being shocked that we had skipped forward
Speaker 1: in time and that everyone had gotten older, and that
Speaker 1: this is what had become of powder.
Speaker 2: And the last time we see her, she's crying. She's
Speaker 2: like heartbroken, her sister has just left her. She's like
Speaker 2: huddled as the smallest possible thing you can imagine. And
Speaker 2: the next time we see her, she's maniacally laughing, and
Speaker 2: she's blowing up all these people and shooting them.
Speaker 1: Also, speaking of character design, I also wanted to call
Speaker 1: out the firelights. How cool are the firelights?
Speaker 3: So cool?
Speaker 1: I mean, hoverr skateboard is like my childhood fascination. Even
Speaker 1: as an adult, I've always wanted an electric skateboard, but
Speaker 1: I haven't made the plunge. Hover skateboards are the next
Speaker 1: best thing. Yes, and I love that the firelights. This
Speaker 1: is maybe me reading too much into the character design,
Speaker 1: maybe not, but when they put their hoverboards on their back,
Speaker 1: they continue to glow because of the little hover of things,
Speaker 1: and so they look like fireflies. Yeah, with lights on
Speaker 1: their back.
Speaker 2: Although the mask gives me Batman cord of the Owls five,
Speaker 2: it does.
Speaker 3: And I'm okay with it. They look cool.
Speaker 4: They said, you know what, that's a dope design and
Speaker 4: they're not doing enough at Court of the Owls and
Speaker 4: mainstream popular culture, so we'll just borrow it subtly. Well,
Speaker 4: it's fine, it's fine. Yeah, In the same way that
Speaker 4: they were like, we love Static Shock. Yeah, we're dropping
Speaker 4: them in this series. We love him, he can stay.
Speaker 4: We'll give him a new name, update his design. Just
Speaker 4: a little bit and he can still hang out and
Speaker 4: it's great. I love when fandom has crossovers like this
Speaker 4: is great for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, back to our recap. Back in Piltover, Chase and
Speaker 1: Victor show Heimerdinger their newest breakthrough. They have created hex
Speaker 1: Tech for the masses, a hex Tech gemstone that's safe
Speaker 1: to use. This very safe. We promise very safe, am
Speaker 1: I saying safe enough? This very safe technology is an
Speaker 1: easily accessible version of hex Tech and they show it
Speaker 1: off to Heimerdinger in the form of power gauntlets that
Speaker 1: would help for example.
Speaker 2: Miners, Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: And also they show it off in the form of
Speaker 1: a doc oc esque laser arm thing that shoots lasers
Speaker 1: that would help who knows who, I don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, he says, architects. I think he said,
Speaker 2: I forget exactly.
Speaker 1: But it just shoots lasers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it shoots lasers. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, Heimerdinger obviously very concerned about allowing this type of
Speaker 1: power out into the masses, to have everyone have access
Speaker 1: to what are effectively weapons. He has basically been shown
Speaker 1: these weapons and he wants them to be cautious about
Speaker 1: their approach. Obviously, Jason Victor are a little more hot headed,
Speaker 1: and we're hoping to get this out on Facebook marketplace.
Speaker 2: Like today, He's like, I'm going live on Instagram. I
Speaker 2: gotta show this off man before I even do the
Speaker 2: speech today. I do think it's interesting from this, we
Speaker 2: basically get the idea that Victor and Jase are still
Speaker 2: the only game in town when it comes to Hextech.
Speaker 2: We don't see anyone else next, I mean, later on
Speaker 2: we see some other people working in the lab with them,
Speaker 2: but they are still the be all end all of
Speaker 2: the sex Tech research. And I can't think of any
Speaker 2: time when in real history when a single person having
Speaker 2: all of the technology has ever been a bad thing. No,
Speaker 2: you know, a monopoly on advancement. Sure, I think that
Speaker 2: seems great for everyone involved.
Speaker 4: They can help the whole world as soon as they
Speaker 4: get on their level, you know, right, exactly assimilarly, we're
Speaker 4: all gonna be good.
Speaker 3: It's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am hex tech man.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: I like to think Jase went to the patent office
Speaker 1: like the day after they cracked the formula. Right, Like
Speaker 1: we talked in the last episode about good branding, Chase,
Speaker 1: my guy knows that branding is the key to success.
Speaker 1: I think he also knows you lock those patents down
Speaker 1: as soon as you get them.
Speaker 2: Joelle, this is something we gotta prep you for. Aboo
Speaker 2: is thirsty for Jase in a way that makes it?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Is it thirsty for Jase? Aaron?
Speaker 2: Are you not on the Jase train in a way
Speaker 2: that makes up for me? I am not on the
Speaker 2: Jay's train?
Speaker 3: Okay, wait, pause, explain to me how you are not.
Speaker 4: I don't even like straight couples in the way Jase
Speaker 4: and his new love interest will discuss soon. I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: I am here for this couple. I love a power
Speaker 4: couple on a trip. Oh yeah, what are we not
Speaker 4: liking about jasonn.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, let's talk about we're jumping ahead, but
Speaker 2: let's talk about Jace and his lady love and this
Speaker 2: power couple. I personally think there's nothing more romantic than
Speaker 2: getting intimate with someone overlaid, with visions of blood joining
Speaker 2: with technology from my partner who's coughing up the blood. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just a perfect way for me to envision sexy times.
Speaker 1: You aren't just like a little bit turned on?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: Whatever floats your boat, Aaron, got a weird that that
Speaker 1: didn't get you with it.
Speaker 4: Listen, we are in a fantasy world and here morals
Speaker 4: don't have to impact actual lives, so we can be
Speaker 4: excited by Jase discovering his mental powers can have Actually,
Speaker 4: he's like, oh wow, I'm actively living my dream.
Speaker 3: Surprised.
Speaker 4: It's so much harder than I thought it would be
Speaker 4: to navigate secondary shock. This partner that I've always been
Speaker 4: cool keeping pace.
Speaker 3: With right our visions are veered.
Speaker 4: I'm romantically linked to a woman who has power ideas
Speaker 4: of her own, and I understand the barricades in front
Speaker 4: of our technology and how to remove them. But my
Speaker 4: partner's not focused on that and doesn't want to think
Speaker 4: about that. They're like, there are people who need help.
Speaker 4: Fuck the red tape, Like, I'll just take it to
Speaker 4: the people. And I love that split for Jase because
Speaker 4: I think, to me, that's just very real and identifiable
Speaker 4: as somebody who's like, oh, I want to do the
Speaker 4: most good and then trying to figure out like how
Speaker 4: to work in bureaucracy.
Speaker 3: Fascinating.
Speaker 4: Plus he's hot, Aaron, I mean, just he's so sexy
Speaker 4: for a cartoon. He's like Aladdin levels of like Okay,
Speaker 4: what are we working with here?
Speaker 2: Like he's really not. He's really not. He doesn't have
Speaker 2: the kind of chin I like I've shown.
Speaker 1: I mean, describe in detail the kind of chin you like.
Speaker 2: Describe in detail literally, Charles Melton. We know, we know
Speaker 2: the what I consider like grade A beauty, and it's
Speaker 2: Charles Melton. We've talked about this at length.
Speaker 4: Okay, we're not here to argue about the Charles Milton's
Speaker 4: established hotness.
Speaker 1: No, no, of course not no.
Speaker 2: Let's not yuck each other's yum. But just know, Joelle,
Speaker 2: as we go throughout the recaps, anything that is very
Speaker 2: pro Jace A Boo wrote that part of the recap.
Speaker 4: I'm understood a Boo, and I will stand on this
Speaker 4: platform and wave to you.
Speaker 3: I can't get off the Jay's chain.
Speaker 4: I really I think Jason's journey is fascinating and I
Speaker 4: really like watching it.
Speaker 3: I think he's really cool character.
Speaker 4: I understand why you would be like this fucking idiot,
Speaker 4: because he walks into every trap.
Speaker 3: He's so beautiful and so dumb.
Speaker 4: He's just straight into every possible missta He's right there,
Speaker 4: but he's cool.
Speaker 3: I like the journey, all right.
Speaker 2: Speaking of characters in this that maybe don't have the
Speaker 2: best visual appearance. We head to the docs. Caitlin, who
Speaker 2: I think is beautiful and it is an incredible character,
Speaker 2: is investigating the crime scene. And then who should appear
Speaker 2: but Marcus. Marcus who now is the sheriff of Piltover
Speaker 2: and who is also sporting an absolutely horrific mustache, so
Speaker 2: you know that he is now a horrible character and
Speaker 2: he's a bad guy. Through and through, Caitlyn gets in trouble.
Speaker 2: She's prying where she shouldn't be. She's supposed to be
Speaker 2: back at her parents tent, keeping everyone safe quote unquote there,
Speaker 2: and it's very clear that like the other enforcers are
Speaker 2: not into Caitlin being an enforcer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they think she's cosplaying. Yeah, she's just a rich
Speaker 1: girl cosplaying.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Again, I think we said it earlier. Love Caitlin. I
Speaker 2: think Kaitlyn's an incredible character, and I can forgive the
Speaker 2: first twenty minutes of this episode where Kaitlin's goal is
Speaker 2: to be a cop.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's fair.
Speaker 4: She doesn't know, Okay, her hero was a cop, and
Speaker 4: so we can forgive her her the icon who was
Speaker 4: a woman who's like, yeah, I know I did on
Speaker 4: my own and I protected my city.
Speaker 3: She's been brainwashed. Her eyes are soon revealed.
Speaker 4: I love Caitlyn and her best friend is Jace, So
Speaker 4: I mean, really, if you love Caitlyn, don't you have
Speaker 4: to love jas.
Speaker 1: The transitive Property. Next, we head back down to the
Speaker 1: under City, where Soko now runs the last drop. This
Speaker 1: is heartbreaking stuff. This is horrifying to see. Savika, who
Speaker 1: was on the ship earlier in the episode when the
Speaker 1: firelights attacked, warns Silko that Jinx is too chaotic, She's
Speaker 1: too much of a liability. I told you so, this
Speaker 1: is gonna bite us in the ass. But Silka doesn't
Speaker 1: want to hear any of it. He's going to stand
Speaker 1: by Jinks. Savika leaves in a huff, and Jinks, who
Speaker 1: has been actually listening from the rafters this entire time,
Speaker 1: drops down and we see how their relationship has evolved
Speaker 1: in the time skip. We see that Silko is now
Speaker 1: clearly a father figure for Jinks, and she even administers
Speaker 1: this little drop of shimmer in his eye with a
Speaker 1: thing that looks really painful. I don't do eye stuff.
Speaker 1: It creeps me out, so I have to look away
Speaker 1: for this scene. But you can see the trust there
Speaker 1: between them. He's a father figure for her, and then
Speaker 1: he trusts her enough to get that close to his
Speaker 1: eye weird eyeball thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, jinks, you know, a plus cat Burglar level of
Speaker 2: always being able to hear when someone else on the
Speaker 2: show is talking about her. Yeah, she's always there eavesdropping,
Speaker 2: doesn't matter who it is, Jinx, Is.
Speaker 4: There such a good youngest sibling trait? Yes, the youngest
Speaker 4: sibling trait of like yeah, unseen and like listening.
Speaker 1: That is youngest sibling energy.
Speaker 4: Also, this show does relationships between men and women really well.
Speaker 4: I feel like so often, particularly weird in a sci
Speaker 4: fi or heavy action driven plots, men and women are
Speaker 4: always like sexual objects to one another.
Speaker 2: Like how the two of you have talked about Jace
Speaker 2: kind of.
Speaker 3: Listen, do we sexualize Jacey? Yes?
Speaker 4: Yes, but he's a cartoon so I'm allowing it.
Speaker 3: It's okay. He has no real feelings.
Speaker 4: But I just think the relationship between Jason Caitlin, like
Speaker 4: it's one of my favorites, Like he so clearly has
Speaker 4: this little crush on her, and he's constantly like trying
Speaker 4: to protect her, but he like has genuine love for her,
Speaker 4: and she's like actually, nah, He's like cool, Please still
Speaker 4: be safe, and like, can I be in your life? No,
Speaker 4: you're on a whole different thing. I'm gonna go over
Speaker 4: here and do my job and.
Speaker 3: Then here too.
Speaker 4: I think the relationship between Powder and Soto, it's just
Speaker 4: it's like he's looking in a mirror and it's so heartbreaking.
Speaker 4: It's really heartbreaking because one, he's obviously not She's on
Speaker 4: her own, very chaotic journey. Nothing he's doing is helping her.
Speaker 4: But everything he did to get himself to where he
Speaker 4: is now, and he thinks it's helping, it's making so
Speaker 4: much worse. And the way they rely on keep each
Speaker 4: other in these really bad positions and sort of circulate
Speaker 4: that negativity amongst just the two of them. It's heartbreaking
Speaker 4: and it's like the definition of a codependent relationship. And
Speaker 4: that's again always just really fascinating to see on screen.
Speaker 4: They understand relationship dynamics and how to really pull on
Speaker 4: the strings of those so that as an audience member,
Speaker 4: you're like compelled to lean in to these characters and
Speaker 4: these storylines.
Speaker 3: They're so delicious, they're very good.
Speaker 2: It's interesting to compare Vander and Violet's relationship in the
Speaker 2: first three episodes and Solko and Jinks especially here, you know,
Speaker 2: like Vander and Violet, they speak on the same wavelength,
Speaker 2: separate from everyone else. Vander is taking care of these
Speaker 2: four kids, but he has a special relationship with Violet.
Speaker 2: Silko has this entire group of thugs and criminals working
Speaker 2: for him, but he has a special relationship with Jinks.
Speaker 2: And both of them are like these father figures who
Speaker 2: are here both hoping to keep the girl safe but
Speaker 2: also send them into dangerous jobs with real consequences, but
Speaker 2: they both trust them more than anyone else does.
Speaker 3: Even Yeah, it's like Powder was looking to become her sister.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and I think those parallels are obviously very intentional.
Speaker 1: Throughout the show, we see these father daughter and brother,
Speaker 1: sister and best friend, best friend. We see these repeated
Speaker 1: time and time again, with all the generations of characters
Speaker 1: we see. We see it with Vander and his old
Speaker 1: friends from back in the day and Vander and Silko
Speaker 1: as brothers, and the betrayal there obviously last episode, Aaron,
Speaker 1: you and I talked about the betrayal parallels with Vi
Speaker 1: and Powder, and we continue to just see that from
Speaker 1: generation to generation. The repetition of these relationship cycles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's at the end of the day. We
Speaker 2: still have the Piltover under city back and forth relationship
Speaker 2: of these as well. Yeah, we cut to Jinks in
Speaker 2: her home, her lair, her hangout, her t age bedroom.
Speaker 2: I don't know what we want to call it. It's
Speaker 2: basically like this giant propeller or a fan or something
Speaker 2: suspended over a bottomless pit, and she is. We see
Speaker 2: her haunted by the ghosts of Milo and Clagger. She's
Speaker 2: got like dolls of them, basically crafted, and she has
Speaker 2: them speaking in her ear, like flashing on screen. But
Speaker 2: Jinx's she's sitting here. She's upset, and she vows to
Speaker 2: prove to Silko that she's not weak and she's going
Speaker 2: to go do something big on her own.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's real broken.
Speaker 4: She's really the only friend she's ever had. We're also bullies,
Speaker 4: all except her sister, who's not there at the table.
Speaker 2: I don't think her sister is not there. I don't
Speaker 2: think so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's just she just recreated her bullies to
Speaker 4: be like these really cruel, mean voices in her head
Speaker 4: that she's constantly fighting again to like physically manifest them.
Speaker 4: And then I think It's interesting that she sets up
Speaker 4: like a family dinner table sort of situation in her lab,
Speaker 4: like really trying to bring this essence of homeliness into
Speaker 4: this creative space that she has. This is really her
Speaker 4: only outlet. She clearly has no friends, her mentors, trying
Speaker 4: to mold her in something she just can't ever really be.
Speaker 4: I'm really curious to see how this leads into some
Speaker 4: of the larger art if we're talking about sort of
Speaker 4: the divide of people either trying to preserve, advance or destroy.
Speaker 4: She's so clearly leading the destroy pack, and honestly, no
Speaker 4: one seems prepared for what she's capable of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no one is prepared for what she's capable,
Speaker 2: even Silco, especially Silco. Yeah. You know, in a perfect world,
Speaker 2: we would have the last drop sponsoring these episodes, but
Speaker 2: unfortunately Silko never got back to us. So instead, here's
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Speaker 1: All right, folks, welcome back. Let's continue with our recap
Speaker 1: of episode four. In the lead up to his Progress
Speaker 1: Day speech, Jace is encouraged to share the news of
Speaker 1: his new discoveries by Mel. She clearly has a vested
Speaker 1: interest here, and by that I mean money, actual money,
Speaker 1: cha ching she can make some money off of this
Speaker 1: hex Tech and she really wants to partner with Jace
Speaker 1: in order to do so, and so she encourages him
Speaker 1: to announce the new iPhone sixteen by Jace invites Victor backstage.
Speaker 1: Jace is talking to Victor and he invites him to
Speaker 1: come on stage. Hey man, we're partners. Let's go up there.
Speaker 1: This is our day. Let's announce this new thing together.
Speaker 1: But Victor's hesitant. He's obviously sickly, as we learn in
Speaker 1: these episodes. And Jace is the one that goes out
Speaker 1: and gives the speech. He's the golden boy, he's the charming,
Speaker 1: charismatic one anyway, so he's the one that crowd is
Speaker 1: waiting for. But when he gets out there, he begins
Speaker 1: his speech, He's got a clipboard in front of him,
Speaker 1: presumably the big announcement is right there written in front
Speaker 1: of him, and at the last minute he gets cold feet.
Speaker 1: He decides not to reveal the new hex Tech technology.
Speaker 2: But he does share we have many exciting things planned,
Speaker 2: you know. He does the equivalent of the LinkedIn like,
Speaker 2: got some big news I'm excited to share. Will reveal
Speaker 2: more later he does the like brag twice for one thing.
Speaker 2: But hey, the crowd loves it, Like you said, he
Speaker 2: is their golden boy. Yeah, and he gets away with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious to hear from both of you. Why
Speaker 1: do you think he got cold feet last minute? Like
Speaker 1: this did Heimerdinger break through to him?
Speaker 3: He knows Heimer Dinger is Is it.
Speaker 1: Some other form of hesitation? Why change his mind? Because
Speaker 1: he was dead set on revealing this.
Speaker 4: Heimerdinger is like not just his mentor, he's also like
Speaker 4: a secondary father figure maybe grandfatherly figure. Like it's a
Speaker 4: really deep connection they have. And he's wise and super
Speaker 4: old and still within his like right mind, and this
Speaker 4: is his very first big thing. Like he's literally on
Speaker 4: the center stage. He's filling in for his footsteps. It
Speaker 4: just seems like such a to me, is like one
Speaker 4: of the only logical steps he makes as far as
Speaker 4: being like like listening to those around him, he is.
Speaker 4: We can see Jace has hero worship bad He like
Speaker 4: his father hero. He put hammers in the hands of
Speaker 4: the people, like his mentor Heimer Dinger. He was like,
Speaker 4: he's just like the greatest and to be fair, harmony
Speaker 4: is pretty great. Later we'll see as he's falling in love,
Speaker 4: He's like, now she's got all she knows what she's doing.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna follow that.
Speaker 4: Like he loves a person with a plan, and he's
Speaker 4: got the face and the product know how to Abou's
Speaker 4: point to really sell that shit. So I think it
Speaker 4: makes sense that he was like, you know, this guy's
Speaker 4: been around, I'm gonna follow through. And I do think
Speaker 4: he's sort of getting to this point in his life
Speaker 4: where he's like, as much as I love my best
Speaker 4: he we're like, maybe not on the same wavelength anymore,
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna start making decisions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know Laterally, I think Jace easily succumbs to
Speaker 2: peer pressure, as we will see throughout, but he is.
Speaker 2: It's kind of just like, who's the last person that
Speaker 2: talked to him? Although I guess I guess Mel talked
Speaker 2: to him more recently than Himerdinger, But he's easily swayed.
Speaker 1: I think, Wow, I love the separate but equal interpretations here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: on this choice, I love it.
Speaker 2: It's almost like we have pre existing thoughts and biases
Speaker 2: towards him as we read all of his actions. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: Jinks sets fire to a building to distract a group
Speaker 2: of enforcers, which includes Caitlin. They're all lounging around on
Speaker 2: their break, just hanging out. They're all making fun of Kaitlin,
Speaker 2: and then this fire breaks out. They go running into
Speaker 2: this building to check it out and hear this little
Speaker 2: girl's voice. She's locked, she's scared, she needs help. And
Speaker 2: turns out it's just a recording of Jinks and they're
Speaker 2: all these bombs and they set off an explosion.
Speaker 1: Oh so creepy, so good.
Speaker 2: Back in Jinks's Propeller Fan hide out, Soko comes in.
Speaker 2: He's furious and he is like, you just endangered all
Speaker 2: these plans? What are you doing? And she's like, chill out,
Speaker 2: look what I stole and she shows him Jace's new
Speaker 2: hex Tech prototypes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a tough look for Soco. Your wild
Speaker 1: card daughter is acting wild? What my guy rain her
Speaker 1: in like?
Speaker 4: He's he's not good at sutting boundaries with his kid.
Speaker 4: He's not a disciplinarian. He's pretty avoidant when it comes
Speaker 4: to like disappointing her or letting her down. He just
Speaker 4: he really can't stomach it, which is kind of sweet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, weird.
Speaker 4: Silcle's a little squishy on the inside. But also the
Speaker 4: problem is there really isn't a solution for like a
Speaker 4: like if you try to think about like all of
Speaker 4: the step Cilcle could take, Like the most logical one
Speaker 4: is like get her in mental health institute, which maybe
Speaker 4: he could do. He has some finances, but in their neighborhood,
Speaker 4: Like how good are the options?
Speaker 3: Is gonna cross over into town?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say what is available in the
Speaker 2: under city?
Speaker 4: Right, And so you can't abandon Harry, that would be awful.
Speaker 4: She's not going to listen to you.
Speaker 3: At best.
Speaker 4: You could do the one thing we're going to talk
Speaker 4: about at the end of this episode, but that's gonna
Speaker 4: put you in a lot of hot water, and you'd
Speaker 4: have to be in a position of wanting to take
Speaker 4: responsibility for your actions, and that's not who Silco is. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's kind of screwed when it comes to reining her in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's really just trying to like point her in
Speaker 1: a direction that's useful and hope the gun goes off
Speaker 1: with the rights. You know, he's like taking her energies
Speaker 1: and being like, Okay, I need to protect you, and
Speaker 1: I clearly feel sympathetic towards you in some way, but
Speaker 1: you could be useful to me. I just gotta like
Speaker 1: make sure your chaos goes in this direction. Play in
Speaker 1: the right space, Play in the right space. Right, Okay,
Speaker 1: back to uh oh Man, I love a council meeting.
Speaker 1: We're with the Piltover Council and they are obviously worried
Speaker 1: about the theft of this hex tech. Some of them
Speaker 1: want to just go hard on the under city, right,
Speaker 1: punish the under City. They've taken our technology. They've been
Speaker 1: a thorn in our side for so long. It's time
Speaker 1: to take bold action. Jas on the other hand, suggests
Speaker 1: just shutting down all the hex tech. Shut down the gates,
Speaker 1: turn off all the technology until we know every thing
Speaker 1: is safe, until we get things back under control. I
Speaker 1: take full responsibility. You know, he's really trying to be
Speaker 1: golden boy here and live up to that reputation and
Speaker 1: do the right thing as he sees it. But Mel,
Speaker 1: who's got dollar signs in her eyes, quickly interjects and
Speaker 1: suggests an alternate solution. She nominates Jason for a seat
Speaker 1: on this council, which breaks traditions. There's never been another
Speaker 1: seat on this Council and she's out here saying, hey,
Speaker 1: we love our golden boy. Look how much money his
Speaker 1: hex tech has made us. Let's get him on this
Speaker 1: council and give him the authority to just manage this
Speaker 1: hex tyche problem on his own.
Speaker 4: We need another Supreme Court judge. Okay, happening, let's go,
Speaker 4: time for court expansion. This is a power couple move,
Speaker 4: and it's technically like, man again. I love watching these
Speaker 4: two work and for her to be like, Okay, bet,
Speaker 4: he's pretty cool.
Speaker 3: We vibe. That's another feather in my cap.
Speaker 4: Like you could see her calculating very far out, and
Speaker 4: I really appreciate that, as if the women in this show,
Speaker 4: especially like the run of women we're about to be
Speaker 4: introduced to, are so cool and I just really value that.
Speaker 4: We sort of start with this woman on at the
Speaker 4: start of her rise, like she's just now all finding
Speaker 4: her stride in how to like navigate this particular pool
Speaker 4: of people, and it's so fun to watch her do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a cool upgrade for Jace. Like wow.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Jace's suggestion of shutting down all hex tech, I
Speaker 2: don't understand it. That's like saying, hey, someone stole a
Speaker 2: nuclear bomb. We should turn off all the nuclear reactors. Why,
Speaker 2: they already got what they need. If you shut down
Speaker 2: the ones that are running, that doesn't prevent them from
Speaker 2: researching what they already stole, Jace, not a great suggestion.
Speaker 2: I'm glad someone else had a different idea, because I
Speaker 2: don't think his idea would have done anything.
Speaker 1: That's a really good point, Hearin. I think this is
Speaker 1: Jase a little bit panicking. Yeah, He's like, I have
Speaker 1: a reputation to uphold. I'm the golden boy. I made
Speaker 1: this technology. Now we're all in danger because of it.
Speaker 2: I can appreciate that part, and I think that this.
Speaker 1: Is truly like a panic move on his end to
Speaker 1: just be like, uh, turn it off. I think, like, undo, Undock,
Speaker 1: It's you're absolutely correct. He's really not thinking the logistics
Speaker 1: of this through. He just wants to say face.
Speaker 2: Jason, the aftermath of his newly elected position, goes to
Speaker 2: see Caitlin to a make sure that she's okay after
Speaker 2: this explosion that she was in, but then be also
Speaker 2: asked her to join his cabinet as his head of security.
Speaker 2: She's put off. She's like, that's a do nothing position.
Speaker 2: As soon as I'm healthy, I'm gonna go back to
Speaker 2: the enforcers. And he's like, actually, turns out your parents
Speaker 2: didn't want you to be an enforcer anyway. They pulled
Speaker 2: a few strings and you have been removed. But she
Speaker 2: still wants to do it, still wants to solve this case.
Speaker 2: And she's like, Nope, I'm gonna do this on my
Speaker 2: own if I have to, and we get a really
Speaker 2: good interaction between the two of them, one of my
Speaker 2: favorite one on one interactions in this entire episode actually
Speaker 2: just makes me like Kate even more.
Speaker 3: I like it too, Aaron.
Speaker 4: It's again, I really like these two as friends. They're
Speaker 4: so warm with one another. But even when they're fighting
Speaker 4: or at odds, there's like a tenderness between them. I
Speaker 4: think they're very sweet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it gives like real.
Speaker 4: Childhood besties, like almost siblings energy between the two of them.
Speaker 4: And yeah, when she kicks them out, I was like,
Speaker 4: get it, girl, She's like, I don't want you here.
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, it's not helpful.
Speaker 1: Even they're sort of misunderstanding of each other's wants. Gives
Speaker 1: like sort of childhood sibling energy, Like he's like, I
Speaker 1: just want you to be safe. And she's like, this
Speaker 1: is how my parents treat me. Don't treat me like this.
Speaker 1: And he's on the council, he's doing all this council shit,
Speaker 1: and she's like, you on the council, is this what
Speaker 1: you wanted? Did you want to like make heex tech?
Speaker 1: And that's what was the say science.
Speaker 3: Jace literally turns into her parents. It's so fast, like
Speaker 3: not just.
Speaker 4: In the way he treats her, which has sort of
Speaker 4: always been in a brotherly way of like you just
Speaker 4: need to be safe, but also I'll just swing my
Speaker 4: power around to help you get like, Yeah, she wants
Speaker 4: to earn her place.
Speaker 3: That's the thing she's been saying the whole totally fricking time.
Speaker 3: Please listen.
Speaker 1: This is why she's friend zoning you. Jays, you're not listening, geez.
Speaker 1: I also wanted to point out super quickly this is
Speaker 1: like not literally neither here nor there, but there is
Speaker 1: a shot in this interaction where Kate takes a step
Speaker 1: back onto a.
Speaker 2: Stool to look at the map or something to.
Speaker 1: Look down at the map. She's got that like red
Speaker 1: string investigation thing on the ground. Charlie the Charlie Day meme. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the camera cuts wide. She steps back and we
Speaker 1: see their height differential, which I was like, no way,
Speaker 1: you're kidding me. She steps back on the stool and
Speaker 1: then matches height with Jace, which confirms that Jace is
Speaker 1: also over six feet tall. Probably I was ranting to
Speaker 1: Aaron in the last episode, Joelle, how Jace just has
Speaker 1: it all. He's good looking, Yeah, he's smart, he's brilliant.
Speaker 1: Everyone loves him. He's charismatic, he's charming, and now he's
Speaker 1: also six feet tall. Next you'll tell me he works
Speaker 1: and find and has blue eyes?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, right?
Speaker 4: And does he not kind of like maybe government, Like
Speaker 4: he's adjacent. Listen, if Chase had a profile on Bumble,
Speaker 4: it would be over in days, okay, Like the girls
Speaker 4: would be like there's a new number one, please move
Speaker 4: to the side.
Speaker 2: Jase is clearly on Peltov Rayah, for sure, he's on
Speaker 2: the ryot. Yeah, oh yeah, but he hasn't he hasn't
Speaker 2: opened the app in forever, Like he's on there.
Speaker 3: He actually goes to he's too busy. Yeah, I listen.
Speaker 4: It's what makes his character really compelling is like he
Speaker 4: has it all, he wants to do well, and there's
Speaker 4: this constant temptation.
Speaker 3: To be like, no, forget your morals.
Speaker 4: You could have money and power, which is that's what
Speaker 4: everybody really wants anyway, And he's like, I do want
Speaker 4: to help the people, but oh, money and power and
Speaker 4: the hot shake.
Speaker 3: Who wants it too? Like it's a really difficult position
Speaker 3: to be in and I'm so hot. What do I
Speaker 3: do to be Jason? I want a dream.
Speaker 1: Truly to be jas The Trials and Tribulation, Okay, let's
Speaker 1: wrap up Episode four. Kate heads off to Stillwater Prison
Speaker 1: to question one of the survivors from the attack earlier
Speaker 1: in the episode, but it actually turns out that the
Speaker 1: survivor in the prison is in the medical bay right
Speaker 1: now because he has a broken jaw. One of the
Speaker 1: other prisoners beat them up. And that's the big reveal
Speaker 1: at this sort of like big mic drop moment at
Speaker 1: the end of this episode. This other prisoner at Stillwater
Speaker 1: is violent, done, done, done, all grown up.
Speaker 3: Oh thank god she's still here.
Speaker 4: My sleep prices, baby. I was very nervous about it.
Speaker 4: This is so great. It explains so much.
Speaker 3: Because you're really like, what happened? Where is she?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: Oh no, this thing is making sense right now, and
Speaker 4: are we just abandoning that entire like line.
Speaker 3: Of what was it?
Speaker 4: And to be like, Okay, this is the world without
Speaker 4: Vie is a really compelling way to reintroduce her to
Speaker 4: the storyline because it's chaotic, it's advancing quickly and allegian
Speaker 4: to start changing every two seconds, like where people are
Speaker 4: who hold power. It's really quickly changing. Zi really is
Speaker 4: like with her dad, he was sort of this thing
Speaker 4: that was holding this tentative situation together. So he's gone,
Speaker 4: things fall apart. She's taken out of the equation at
Speaker 4: the same time, and she's his progeny. So now that
Speaker 4: she's back in the mix, how is that going to
Speaker 4: change everything? And I think, of course we're particularly concerned
Speaker 4: about our dear Powder. How does she she does she
Speaker 4: didn't react well to thinking she saw her sister her
Speaker 4: sure to actually back chaotic.
Speaker 1: Yes, uh, it sets up a very juicy rest of
Speaker 1: the season for sure, But holy sprockets, guys, look at
Speaker 1: the time, we have to go to another ad break,
Speaker 1: So stick around, folks. We'll be back to talk about
Speaker 1: Arcane episode five in just a minute. Okay, we are back.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Arcane episode five. This one's titled Everybody
Speaker 1: Wants to Be My Enemy, which is an Imagine Dragons
Speaker 1: song that I actually sometimes run two. I have to
Speaker 1: admit that, wait.
Speaker 2: A minute, we didn't get Oh my god, keep going.
Speaker 2: You know what music Jase works out to. It is
Speaker 2: literally just Imagine Dragons. He doesn't listen to anything else
Speaker 2: when he works out.
Speaker 1: It is I know, I've been thinking about this all
Speaker 1: week Like, I spent all weekend being like, do I
Speaker 1: tell Eron that I listened to Imagine Dragons or do
Speaker 1: I just play along and pretend I don't. But here
Speaker 1: we are, okay. This episode opens up on a flashback
Speaker 1: to young Caitlin and the late Great Sheriff Grayson in
Speaker 1: a friendly shooting competition. Caitlyn wins the competition, but at
Speaker 1: the after party, she gets a little suspicious. She sees
Speaker 1: her parents schmoozing, and she asks Grayson if the Sheriff
Speaker 1: fletter win because of a bribe. Her parents have always
Speaker 1: done things to make life easy for her, was this
Speaker 1: one of those things too? Grayson admits that she did
Speaker 1: let the child win, but just because she's like a
Speaker 1: cute child who shows some promise, and not because any
Speaker 1: money was involved, and Grayson actually leaves Kate with what
Speaker 1: will clearly become like a life defining question. Quote. It
Speaker 1: begs the question, young kierman, what are you shooting for?
Speaker 1: End quote, which I think is something Kate is still
Speaker 1: exploring even to present day.
Speaker 2: We cut back to Stillwater Prison in the present day
Speaker 2: and Kate's questioning the v Sorry, VI. It's tough because
Speaker 2: she now has the joker fied six Roman numeral tattoo
Speaker 2: under the eye that says VI. It's a little not
Speaker 2: my favorite transition character design wise, but she's questioning Violet,
Speaker 2: and after some unpleasant back and forth, Caitlyn realizes that
Speaker 2: she really needs her, and she goes and uses Jace's
Speaker 2: newly appointed position to forge documents to get ye out
Speaker 2: what Jace has just been elected. We're really speed running
Speaker 2: election to corruption in Yeah, I don't know a day
Speaker 2: basically here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, incredible. She shows a lot of gumption, Yes, gets
Speaker 1: things done. I think Sheriff Grayson had the right idea.
Speaker 1: Back in Piltover, Your guy, Aaron, your guy. Sheriff Marcus
Speaker 1: is giving a speech at the funeral of the dead
Speaker 1: enforcers from Powder's attack earlier. He is genuinely broken up
Speaker 1: about these losses, and he even visits Grayson's tombstone with
Speaker 1: his daughter. You can tell he's very affected by the
Speaker 1: death of his comrades. We then cut to an absolutely
Speaker 1: furious Marcus yelling at Silko, demanding that he'd be allowed
Speaker 1: to arrest Powder. But Silko obviously has another suggestion. Hey,
Speaker 1: remember the firelights. She use them as a scapegoat.
Speaker 2: So win win, which I mean kind of.
Speaker 3: Makes sense, crooked police. Yeah, when will you learn?
Speaker 1: What does this kind of really makes sense? Why is
Speaker 1: Marcus not thinking of that?
Speaker 4: Well, because Marcus wants to be a good cop. Marcus
Speaker 4: is out here being like, I want to be an
Speaker 4: outstanding cop. I got caught up. Yeah, maybe I can
Speaker 4: make the best of a situation and make it worse.
Speaker 4: But no, you're already in bed with the criminal, Marcus.
Speaker 4: The only thing you can do is turn yourself in.
Speaker 4: You're screwed. This never works out for the crooked Coughs.
Speaker 4: I don't know why I haven't figured this out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're in too deep, Surpuco. Let's keep going at
Speaker 2: the Hexgate. Doc Jase is taking his new council position
Speaker 2: very seriously, and he's uncovering months and months of shipping discrepancies.
Speaker 2: This corruption has been running rampant since I guess as
Speaker 2: long as he created the hexgates, however long ago that was,
Speaker 2: and he's here to drain the swamp. Victor is annoyed
Speaker 2: that his friend is too busy focused on the council
Speaker 2: work to be focused on the hex tech work. So
Speaker 2: Victor is complaining, and then he coughs up a little
Speaker 2: bit of blood and his head rushes, and he rushes
Speaker 2: to the lap with a brand new idea.
Speaker 1: Right, he has a sort of epiphany here. Now back
Speaker 1: in her layer, Jinx is trying to figure out Jase
Speaker 1: and Victor's hex Tech. She's got the notes, she's got
Speaker 1: the gemstone. She's trying to crack it all on her own,
Speaker 1: and she does to activate it, causing like a sort
Speaker 1: of chaotic explosion, and this is obviously deeply traumatic for her.
Speaker 1: She flashed back to the explosion back in the cannery
Speaker 1: that killed all her friends, that killed Vander, and it's
Speaker 1: a pretty horrifying scene. And we see that Powder is
Speaker 1: still deeply hurt from that incident, and this brings a
Speaker 1: lot of that grief back up to the surface for her.
Speaker 1: Witnessing another hexstack explosion.
Speaker 2: Kate and Violet are at the escalator shaped the circular
Speaker 2: escalator Bathosphere ticket office, and Kitlin's like, we should make
Speaker 2: sure we get a ticket, you know, we should get
Speaker 2: an aisle seat. I don't know what the inflight movie
Speaker 2: is today, but I think we might be able to
Speaker 2: watch Joker on the ride down, and Violet is like, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: we're parkouring ourselves down and that's the fastest way to
Speaker 2: the under city, and impressively, Caitlin, a little slowly does
Speaker 2: manage to follow her down. I don't know if as
Speaker 2: someone who's afraid of heights, I don't think that would
Speaker 2: have been I probably would have stuck in to see
Speaker 2: what in flight meal was. But as Violet gets down
Speaker 2: there first she steals, not steals, she borrows some clothing
Speaker 2: to help her new partner, Caitlyn blend in because she
Speaker 2: can't be dressed in an enforce her outfit. And as
Speaker 2: she's doing it, or as Caitlyn comes down, Violet's like,
Speaker 2: my sister could have done that faster than you when
Speaker 2: she was seven, So clearly she's still thinking about her
Speaker 2: sister too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I really felt like this was an important line
Speaker 1: because we know that Powder still thinks about Violet, and
Speaker 1: it's important for us as the audience to also recognize
Speaker 1: that Violet has also not forgotten about Powder all these
Speaker 1: years later, and the two sisters are still thinking about
Speaker 1: each other in equal but also dramatically different ways. Powder
Speaker 1: clearly sort of traumatized by even someone with similar hair
Speaker 1: to Violet, whereas Violet uses it to flirt exactly and
Speaker 1: remembers the things her sister was good at. You know,
Speaker 1: this is a fond memory.
Speaker 4: It's also an important moment in buying Caitlyn's relationship because
Speaker 4: it shows the first time we see how everyone is like, God,
Speaker 4: you're slowing us down and you're terrible at this. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And so either VIA's remembering Powder as being better at
Speaker 4: doing this stuff than she actually was, or it's really
Speaker 4: showcasing the distance between Vi and Caitlin as far as
Speaker 4: like what you need to be aware of and how
Speaker 4: to survive in this space, Like you're you are worse
Speaker 4: than a child.
Speaker 3: It's really bad. Yeah, And it's an important line doing so.
Speaker 4: With so little words, really exploring a lot of relationships
Speaker 4: at one time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing point, Joelle, You're spot on all right. Back
Speaker 1: in the lab, Victor is obsessively working with the ruins
Speaker 1: on the hex Tech machine to try and build what,
Speaker 1: to my understanding is basically just hex Tech GPT trying
Speaker 1: to make AI happen, while Jasons in the background clearly
Speaker 1: just checking his hair. Does this guy do any work
Speaker 1: in the lab anymore? No, I haven't seen him put
Speaker 1: any hours in honestly the faith now it's wild and
Speaker 1: understand Victor's frustrations. Like if I was here recording this
Speaker 1: episode and Aaron was just like off in the corner
Speaker 1: combing his hair, I'd be like, are we recording right now?
Speaker 3: Or what are we doing?
Speaker 2: The amazing thing is with my hair, I can do
Speaker 2: it at any time, just with my hands, or I
Speaker 2: can fix it, so I don't need to leave screen
Speaker 2: for that. Don't worry.
Speaker 1: Now. Meanwhile, down in the under City, Violet is eating
Speaker 1: a delicious Undercity meal of sloppy fish while a frustrated
Speaker 1: Caitlin is trying to get her to focus. We're here
Speaker 1: to do a job. We got to crack this case.
Speaker 1: Tell me about the soko, tell me about this investigation.
Speaker 1: Let's go do stuff. The stall owner after the meal
Speaker 1: secretly hands Via a note and they walk off, and
Speaker 1: clearly this was more than just a meal. This was
Speaker 1: a subtle business transaction as well, and an exchange of
Speaker 1: information happened here. And I liked how this You know,
Speaker 1: once again, Joel, to your point about Caitlin maybe not
Speaker 1: knowing how to operate in the under city, This shows
Speaker 1: us that Caitlin is out of her depth. She doesn't
Speaker 1: understand the subtle ways that you oper right down here.
Speaker 1: You don't just go around asking questions.
Speaker 4: She's literally an enforcer. Subtle subtlety is not in her handbooks.
Speaker 4: She's she is somewhat the pampered princess. She doesn't want
Speaker 4: to be in that She's always had a lot of
Speaker 4: privilege and ability and access. And then on top of that,
Speaker 4: her job is an enforcer. Like nobody tells you not
Speaker 4: to go somewhere except your commander, who she didn't listen
Speaker 4: to anyway, Like she has no subtlety is not in
Speaker 4: this girl's menu. I love in opposites the tract storyline.
Speaker 4: I love the banter chemistry between these two, these enemies.
Speaker 4: To love her storyline. It's not quite enemies, but definitely
Speaker 4: the other side of the tracks.
Speaker 3: Angle for sure with these two.
Speaker 4: And like these opening scenes of them just trying to
Speaker 4: get through the city like they're really not to anything
Speaker 4: but talking to mostly friendly people and it's such a
Speaker 4: train wreck for them because are so opposites.
Speaker 3: That's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2: We head back up to Piltover and at the Piltover
Speaker 2: Opera House, Mel is giving Jason little politics one O
Speaker 2: one lesson, and she's basically explaining, you've done a great
Speaker 2: job of rooting out all the corruption. Unfortunately, a lot
Speaker 2: of the corruption around the hex Gates was with members
Speaker 2: of the council, and you kind of put a target
Speaker 2: on your back, and you kind of gotta go grease
Speaker 2: some palms and make up for the little dust storm
Speaker 2: that you kicked up here because so and so wants
Speaker 2: their wine brought in from this part of the town,
Speaker 2: and so and so over here has been skimming a
Speaker 2: little off the top. And that's okay. You gotta learn
Speaker 2: all this, but it's time for you to make nice
Speaker 2: with everyone. Everyone that is except heimer Dinger, who is
Speaker 2: just focused on loving the performance. Heimer Dinger is out
Speaker 2: there like a boo listening to imagine dragons on a run.
Speaker 2: Heimer Dinger's just like losing it.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, shots fired. Yeah, yeah, I loved these cutaways.
Speaker 1: We see all of this like politicking happening during this scene,
Speaker 1: and every so often we just cut back to Heimerdinger, who's.
Speaker 3: Just adorable teddy bear, clapping.
Speaker 1: Eating his snack and being like, this is my favorite violinist. Woo.
Speaker 3: It's so good.
Speaker 4: And I think, what's really like that scene again, just
Speaker 4: artistically in the way they shape these scenes, the way
Speaker 4: they're filmed so beautiful and sunning, because you understand, like
Speaker 4: Heimerdinger's negligence on this look, he doesn't understand the beast
Speaker 4: that he's created within Jase.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because what he.
Speaker 4: Knows of him is his good, sweet boy heart. They're like,
Speaker 4: that's just young Jace. He just wants to help the people,
Speaker 4: and he's really smart and I gave him a leg
Speaker 4: up and I'm just so proud of him.
Speaker 3: And he's getting a corruption.
Speaker 4: He's doing all the things that I taught him. Congratulations us.
Speaker 4: He doesn't see this change coming at all. I don't
Speaker 4: think Jace really sees it. But oh the seduction of
Speaker 4: being like, Babe, I'm gonna help you maximalize your potential.
Speaker 4: I mean, this couple really won for the ages.
Speaker 2: We cut to the lanes and Jinks visits the gang's
Speaker 2: old hangout with the boxing machine and the shooting gallery,
Speaker 2: and she starts us using violets boxing training machine to
Speaker 2: uh burn off some steam and trauma, and we get
Speaker 2: like a boo you had mentioned this. We get Jinks
Speaker 2: kind of mimicking her sister here, which is pretty powerful.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so beautiful. Yeah. It sort of fades
Speaker 1: in and out of young Violet practicing and we see
Speaker 1: Jinks just mimicking her sister's moves on this machine. But
Speaker 1: I want to note this feels important. She still only
Speaker 1: comes in.
Speaker 3: Second place, second right.
Speaker 1: Violet still holds the record on the arcade machine at
Speaker 1: the Pizza Hut. No one is better than her at
Speaker 1: punching this thing.
Speaker 2: This is like a Costanza needing to move the arcade
Speaker 2: out before the pizza place shuts down.
Speaker 3: Bob me Jimmy Pestow's high score.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, all right, let's check back in with Vi
Speaker 1: and Kate. They go to a pleasure house to try
Speaker 1: and go get information. Via tells Kate to blend in
Speaker 1: impersonate one of the workers here. You're a hottie, mccatti.
Speaker 1: Just do your thing, blend in, do your job, get
Speaker 1: some information for us, and go over there. Leave me alone.
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, no, no, no, aboo, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: One second, one moment because.
Speaker 4: Also the important hand against the wall like men or women,
Speaker 4: check of are you into this girl or not?
Speaker 3: Like wow, we cannot have this very important moment be
Speaker 3: glossed lesbian iconic moment.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Continia, Yeah, no, definitely steamy.
Speaker 2: So Violet heads to the back of the business to
Speaker 2: meet with the proprietor and get a little bit of
Speaker 2: information on her sister in Soco, and she doesn't learn
Speaker 2: too much, but she does get information on Sophika. And
Speaker 2: Marcus is meeting with Soko again. He's trying to stand
Speaker 2: up for himself, but surprise, surprise, he just doesn't have
Speaker 2: the guts and he can't stop working with him. He's
Speaker 2: in too deep, we already said. But Soko's feel the
Speaker 2: pressure to right now, and so he tells Jinks to
Speaker 2: hurry up and figuring out hextech. And you stole these prototypes,
Speaker 2: and I know that two episodes ago you couldn't even
Speaker 2: make a bomb that worked, but why don't you, without
Speaker 2: any notes, figure out this brand new technology? On your
Speaker 2: own in a cave with a box of scraps, and
Speaker 2: spoiler alert, she does. We head back to Piltover and
Speaker 2: this is the steamy scene that unfortunately, I'm gonna have
Speaker 2: to do part of the recap by myself because I
Speaker 2: don't think a Boo or Joelle are just mentally able
Speaker 2: to talk about this without blowing all the mics out.
Speaker 2: But Jason mel become intimate.
Speaker 4: They fall stars motion, the universe collides around them.
Speaker 3: It isn't epic coupling.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Jace gets busy. However, let's not forget about Victor,
Speaker 2: because while this is going on, Victor is low on sleep.
Speaker 2: He's still a obsessed with figuring out the hex tech.
Speaker 2: And his cute lab assistant comes in and is like, Oh,
Speaker 2: I wish someone would walk me home to the restaurant.
Speaker 2: How late are you going to be working? I could
Speaker 2: leave whenever you're ready, And he is like, I'm not working.
Speaker 2: I'm sleeping here tonight, and she's like, oh, well, you
Speaker 2: probably need something to eat, right, Like, we could walk
Speaker 2: to the restaurant together, or I think someone maybe left
Speaker 2: the door open. I'm not strong enough to close it,
Speaker 2: would you? And he's like, I am busy, please leave
Speaker 2: me a.
Speaker 1: Little locked in?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Do you guys think that he was unaware or he's
Speaker 4: just genuinely uninterested because we haven't seen him have any
Speaker 4: romantic inklings or conquest or anything. And I don't know
Speaker 4: what the read is on that guy. I'm like, does
Speaker 4: he you know? Is it totally fair if he's just like,
Speaker 4: I'm not interested? I have science to do.
Speaker 2: I mean, as we learn. I think if someone was like, hey,
Speaker 2: you got maybe a couple of days to live unless
Speaker 2: you solve this, I think I might be pretty locked
Speaker 2: in on We'll see.
Speaker 4: I'm going for love. This is too much pressure? Fine,
Speaker 4: God days left? Great, heism, Let's go.
Speaker 2: Victor, very frustrated that his research is not yielding any results,
Speaker 2: costs up more blood and collapses, and as we mentioned
Speaker 2: before intercut with Jase and Mel we get the hex
Speaker 2: tech reacting to the blood and truly like a sci
Speaker 2: fi horror movie montage of like, uh oh, the technology
Speaker 2: is becoming sentient and alive because it attached to human blood.
Speaker 2: And now we have this other thing. No way, this
Speaker 2: is bad, right, I'm sure this will be good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the ominous music really gave it away. That this
Speaker 1: is a good thing. Now back in the under city, Jinks. Oh,
Speaker 1: this scene is beautiful. I love this. Jinks has a
Speaker 1: baptism of sorts in the same waters that Soilco nearly
Speaker 1: drowned in that Silco nearly got drowned in by Vander
Speaker 1: Silko imparts some advice on his adopted daughter. She's clearly
Speaker 1: struggling with her trauma and these feelings and these memories
Speaker 1: of her sister and her friends, and so he imparts
Speaker 1: some advice. He says, quote, you need to let powder die.
Speaker 2: Jinks is perfect, great line. Really love this scene, and
Speaker 2: I love the idea of this is where Silko almost
Speaker 2: died and was born anew and this is where Jinks
Speaker 2: will be fully come into her own. We then get
Speaker 2: to really one of the lowest points of the show's run.
Speaker 2: We're treated to a montage set to the theme song
Speaker 2: with the band animated. You know nothing against the members
Speaker 2: of the band individually. What's going on here, like you're
Speaker 2: walking down the.
Speaker 3: Streets as a whole. I have lots of concern.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, individuals are fine, but when you come together,
Speaker 4: I don't like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And there's no skip intro button here. I
Speaker 2: don't know what's happening.
Speaker 4: No, it's really difficult, right, and key things happen while
Speaker 4: it's playing, so you kind of can't sky. I would
Speaker 4: just skip it, and I said, no major things happen
Speaker 4: in this sequence. I think it was a small note
Speaker 4: to the creators and you've done fabulous, so it's really tiny.
Speaker 4: If you play the theme song for every episode, don't
Speaker 4: also stick it in the center of it's way too,
Speaker 4: and it would be with even with the theme song
Speaker 4: I loved, I would be like, this is a lot.
Speaker 2: Too unless unless your theme song is like the X
Speaker 2: Men and animated series, something instrumental and you use motifs throughout,
Speaker 2: Like I don't want to go too far down the
Speaker 2: rabbit hole musically, but there are ways that you can
Speaker 2: make this effective. And I think just playing the exact
Speaker 2: same part of.
Speaker 3: The song totally makes sense.
Speaker 2: Right, playing the exact same part of the song that
Speaker 2: plays in the opening credits doesn't work, and like, I
Speaker 2: get it. Maybe this song was written for this particular
Speaker 2: scene and then they were like, oh, maybe we should
Speaker 2: use this for the theme. I'm not entirely sure. The
Speaker 2: lyrics don't really hit for me on their own, but
Speaker 2: they don't hit in this part of the scene. I
Speaker 2: don't know. Anyways, we didn't even talk about what's happening
Speaker 2: in the scene, just because Imagine Dragons was like we
Speaker 2: could go through like an entire thing about you know,
Speaker 2: Game of Thrones would have musicians in it, but they
Speaker 2: were like kind of hidden and it wasn't like, hey,
Speaker 2: here's the members of cold Play in the back of
Speaker 2: the Red or who is in the Red wedding cigaret
Speaker 2: ROAs I forget who it was, But it wasn't like
Speaker 2: Coldplay is in Game of Thrones and they're listening to
Speaker 2: the scientist like at the same time, like he was
Speaker 2: a little more tastefully done. Vi is going off to
Speaker 2: confront Sevika. Marcus is struggling with his choices as we know,
Speaker 2: he's far too deep in the corruption, and Mel wakes
Speaker 2: up ditched in bed because Jason has actually run off
Speaker 2: to go try to be at the bedside of Victor,
Speaker 2: who has collapsed and is in the medical bay. VI
Speaker 2: and Sevika get into an all out brawl, and Sevika
Speaker 2: reel reveals to Violet that Powder now Jinx is working
Speaker 2: for Soco and is like his daughter, and this is like,
Speaker 2: we get our first look kind of at the body
Speaker 2: augmentation power by the Shimmer, this opposite tech that we're
Speaker 2: gonna see as opposed to the hex tech stuff. We've
Speaker 2: got the Shimmer powered arm and everything. But of course
Speaker 2: the culminating part of the scene is Violet's gonna lose
Speaker 2: and then Kate shows up and saves her life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they stumble off arm in arm. By
Speaker 1: the way, I feel like Joelle would want me to say.
Speaker 4: That, thank you so much we're including this. She's like, Hey,
Speaker 4: guess why I actually am capable. It's you who can
Speaker 4: sometimes be hot headed and discharging in situations. Sometimes you
Speaker 4: need a detective know how to handle these situations. Like, hmm,
Speaker 4: this white lady who is always the powerful fighter has
Speaker 4: a cloak on any upgrade she might have gotten. Look
Speaker 4: both ways before you cross the street. Viy, this was
Speaker 4: reckless as hell. I'm obsessed with Uying Katelyn together. I
Speaker 4: think they're so lovely and sweet and they push each
Speaker 4: other to be better people with like the best kind
Speaker 4: of relationships. Man, this episode sings this is such this.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's my favorite episode, but it's
Speaker 4: up there.
Speaker 2: We do I think need to just give our flowers.
Speaker 2: We've dragged him a lot this episode. But Marcus, I think,
Speaker 2: has done one good thing in this show, and that
Speaker 2: was at the end of episode three, Marcus saved Violet
Speaker 2: by what was it ethanol or whatever, knocking her out
Speaker 2: and preventing her from going after Soco and his gang.
Speaker 2: Because Sivika comes in and informs Soilco that Violet is back,
Speaker 2: and he says from the dead, so everyone thought Violet
Speaker 2: was dead. I guess Silko's corrupt cops didn't inform him
Speaker 2: when Violet was arrested and put in prison and causing
Speaker 2: fights and clearly on the wrong side of the jailers
Speaker 2: as she's been. It's insinuated she's been beaten by the
Speaker 2: jailers multiple times. So I guess that news didn't leave
Speaker 2: Stillwater prison. But it is at least something that Marcus
Speaker 2: saved her until now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and to your point, maybe it is Marcus doing
Speaker 1: a bit of a cover job, just making sure the
Speaker 1: paperwork from Stillwater just happens to never make it to
Speaker 1: ghost Desk.
Speaker 2: All Right. That was the end of our discussion on
Speaker 2: Ourcane episodes four and five. On tomorrow's episode, Jason and Rosie.
Speaker 2: We're back to discuss the Greatest Year of Horror nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty four. A Boo and I will probably not be
Speaker 2: on that episode because of Boo and I are not
Speaker 2: we're not horror heads.
Speaker 1: Too spooky for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not enough imagine dragons, So we really don't have
Speaker 2: anything to contribute next week. Admitted that next week we'll
Speaker 2: be back with Penguin episode six on Monday, Agatha episode
Speaker 2: seven on Tuesday, and Arcane episodes six and seven on Wednesday,
Speaker 2: and then a very special Halloween episode on Thursday.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, We'll see you next week.
Speaker 2: Bye.
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