1 00:00:04,404 --> 00:00:07,244 Speaker 1: Ten Takes is a production of the NFL in partnership 2 00:00:07,284 --> 00:00:19,484 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:23,804 --> 00:00:27,044 Speaker 2: I'll go with Josh Allen just because you mentioned it, 4 00:00:27,044 --> 00:00:31,364 Speaker 2: man Ty, like he's beaten the Chiefs multiple times. Granted 5 00:00:31,884 --> 00:00:35,204 Speaker 2: it's always in the regular season, and sure enough, Week 6 00:00:35,364 --> 00:00:37,084 Speaker 2: nine at Buffalo. 7 00:00:36,604 --> 00:00:38,564 Speaker 3: The Chiefs are going to go to the Bills. I 8 00:00:38,604 --> 00:00:39,564 Speaker 3: think even Chiefs. 9 00:00:39,364 --> 00:00:41,124 Speaker 2: Fans at this point know they're going to lose that game. 10 00:00:41,324 --> 00:00:43,124 Speaker 2: That's just kind of what happens. They lose in the 11 00:00:43,164 --> 00:00:46,164 Speaker 2: regular season and they never lose in the playoffs. You 12 00:00:46,284 --> 00:00:49,044 Speaker 2: got to just think at some point, nobody ever thought 13 00:00:49,044 --> 00:00:51,804 Speaker 2: Peyton was going to beat Brady. It'll never happen. It 14 00:00:51,884 --> 00:00:54,244 Speaker 2: did happen. It happened in two thousand and six. He 15 00:00:54,284 --> 00:00:56,964 Speaker 2: got him in Indianapolis. Brady throws a pick to Marlon Jackson 16 00:00:57,004 --> 00:01:00,324 Speaker 2: at the end of the game. At some point, probably 17 00:01:00,644 --> 00:01:03,044 Speaker 2: maybe it'll happen, but the fact that he has done 18 00:01:03,084 --> 00:01:05,364 Speaker 2: it multiple times, I mean, I can't pick the rest 19 00:01:05,404 --> 00:01:07,724 Speaker 2: of these guys, even Lamar. I would go with Josh 20 00:01:07,804 --> 00:01:11,004 Speaker 2: Allen just because it maybe regular season a postseason can 21 00:01:11,084 --> 00:01:14,844 Speaker 2: happen eventually. I think you can compare the ability, and 22 00:01:14,924 --> 00:01:18,364 Speaker 2: that's really fun. I don't like comparing the statistical stuff I. 23 00:01:18,364 --> 00:01:19,004 Speaker 3: Just don't like. 24 00:01:19,044 --> 00:01:20,884 Speaker 2: And I look at all these guys who have so 25 00:01:20,964 --> 00:01:23,724 Speaker 2: much respect for who like, by the way, Jamie, I, 26 00:01:23,724 --> 00:01:26,604 Speaker 2: I'm completely secure being the historian, completely secure with how 27 00:01:26,604 --> 00:01:29,764 Speaker 2: old I am. Like I watched Chris Carter play in 28 00:01:29,764 --> 00:01:32,724 Speaker 2: my dad's couch. I watch you Name It and anybody, 29 00:01:32,844 --> 00:01:35,724 Speaker 2: Andre A. Reid, all of these incredible Hall of famers 30 00:01:35,724 --> 00:01:38,044 Speaker 2: who I grew up watching, and like, we're so eager to. 31 00:01:38,044 --> 00:01:40,924 Speaker 3: Say they're the best. Jefferson's that, Jefferson's great. 32 00:01:41,364 --> 00:01:44,724 Speaker 2: Slow the bleep down on just saying he's gonna be 33 00:01:44,764 --> 00:01:48,524 Speaker 2: better than Randy Moss. Come on, Randy Moss is just done. 34 00:01:48,724 --> 00:01:51,244 Speaker 2: We're not like we're comparing him to wayite tittle. I'd 35 00:01:51,324 --> 00:01:53,844 Speaker 2: be happy to stand up for those guys, because again, 36 00:01:53,924 --> 00:01:58,364 Speaker 2: I don't think it's styles and talent, sure, but production 37 00:01:58,524 --> 00:01:59,804 Speaker 2: it's a very different thing. 38 00:01:59,844 --> 00:02:00,644 Speaker 3: Guys, very different. 39 00:02:01,444 --> 00:02:04,124 Speaker 2: Harba did his job, Like last year was awesome. They 40 00:02:04,364 --> 00:02:06,644 Speaker 2: they fired the coach the year before, they bring in 41 00:02:06,684 --> 00:02:09,684 Speaker 2: the superstar and it completely worked. Eleven wins playoffs like 42 00:02:09,724 --> 00:02:11,884 Speaker 2: this is the Chargers, it's not the Chiefs. They had 43 00:02:11,924 --> 00:02:14,444 Speaker 2: to crawl before they can walk, and they crawled last year. 44 00:02:14,684 --> 00:02:16,764 Speaker 2: What's hasked to happen this year? This is very simple, 45 00:02:16,844 --> 00:02:19,244 Speaker 2: like Justin Herbert needs to join the conversation, and the 46 00:02:19,284 --> 00:02:22,164 Speaker 2: conversation is all right, Maybe he needs to join the club. 47 00:02:22,364 --> 00:02:23,124 Speaker 3: You know the club. 48 00:02:23,324 --> 00:02:26,604 Speaker 1: It's Mahomes, it's Allen, it's Burrow, and it's Lamar. 49 00:02:26,724 --> 00:02:29,644 Speaker 2: That is the club. Where is Justin Herbert. He's huge, 50 00:02:29,804 --> 00:02:31,964 Speaker 2: he has a massive arm, he's crazy talented. He's now 51 00:02:32,084 --> 00:02:34,284 Speaker 2: very experienced in the league. But he has to join 52 00:02:34,324 --> 00:02:35,884 Speaker 2: the club this year if they're going to really do 53 00:02:35,964 --> 00:02:37,844 Speaker 2: something in the playoffs, and he's gonna have to join 54 00:02:37,844 --> 00:02:41,804 Speaker 2: the club. After one of the strangest, least talked about 55 00:02:41,804 --> 00:02:44,524 Speaker 2: playoff performances of the twenty first century, let's. 56 00:02:44,324 --> 00:02:44,924 Speaker 3: Get into this. 57 00:02:45,244 --> 00:02:49,684 Speaker 2: Last year, Justin Herbert was excellent, specifically excellent in taking 58 00:02:49,724 --> 00:02:53,724 Speaker 2: care of the ball. He threw three interceptions all season, 59 00:02:54,524 --> 00:02:58,084 Speaker 2: and he threw four in one playoff game. That is insane. 60 00:02:58,444 --> 00:03:01,364 Speaker 2: I've never heard of that before. That ball was high. 61 00:03:01,364 --> 00:03:03,844 Speaker 2: The first interception was terrible. It's the kind of thing 62 00:03:03,884 --> 00:03:05,564 Speaker 2: where it and the social media era and the air 63 00:03:05,644 --> 00:03:09,764 Speaker 2: of optics and QB tears and rankings that is devastating. 64 00:03:09,844 --> 00:03:12,364 Speaker 2: So a guy's reputation because here you are in the 65 00:03:12,404 --> 00:03:14,044 Speaker 2: biggest game of the year and you played the worst 66 00:03:14,044 --> 00:03:16,364 Speaker 2: game of your career. He's never had a game in 67 00:03:16,404 --> 00:03:19,284 Speaker 2: his life where he's thrown three interceptions. Never he threw 68 00:03:19,324 --> 00:03:21,684 Speaker 2: four in this game. And we're left, what do we 69 00:03:21,764 --> 00:03:24,004 Speaker 2: do with Justin Herbert? After that, we walk away and 70 00:03:24,044 --> 00:03:27,084 Speaker 2: we're like, damn, Justin looked pretty tight in that playoff game. Man, 71 00:03:27,124 --> 00:03:28,724 Speaker 2: it didn't look like yourself at all. So how we 72 00:03:28,804 --> 00:03:31,284 Speaker 2: supposed to judge you? And what happens with that game 73 00:03:31,524 --> 00:03:35,164 Speaker 2: is that was the Saturday Afternoon Texans Classic. You know, 74 00:03:35,204 --> 00:03:37,964 Speaker 2: it's wild Card weekend. It's Saturday, there's a game after 75 00:03:38,004 --> 00:03:40,564 Speaker 2: it on Saturday. There's a bunch of games on Sunday. 76 00:03:40,804 --> 00:03:42,884 Speaker 2: So by the time shows like us come on Monday morning, 77 00:03:42,924 --> 00:03:44,644 Speaker 2: we're not talking Chargers Texans anymore. 78 00:03:44,644 --> 00:03:46,444 Speaker 3: It's just forgotten about poof like it never happened. 79 00:03:46,524 --> 00:03:49,604 Speaker 2: It did happen. It's not that it was bad, it's 80 00:03:49,604 --> 00:03:52,204 Speaker 2: that he was just so strange. I can't believe what 81 00:03:52,244 --> 00:03:54,924 Speaker 2: I just saw. Three interceptions in seventeen games and four 82 00:03:54,964 --> 00:03:57,164 Speaker 2: in one game. It leaves you to make your own 83 00:03:57,204 --> 00:04:01,764 Speaker 2: conclusions about Herbert anything you want. He's not clutch, he choked, 84 00:04:01,804 --> 00:04:05,164 Speaker 2: he tensed up bright lights too much. Ready to subscribe 85 00:04:05,204 --> 00:04:07,124 Speaker 2: to those things yet, But I can't tell you for 86 00:04:07,164 --> 00:04:10,084 Speaker 2: sure that they're all wrong Justin Herbert. All I can 87 00:04:10,084 --> 00:04:12,244 Speaker 2: tell you is he played this great regular season last year. 88 00:04:12,364 --> 00:04:13,964 Speaker 3: So it's almost like we have to fast forward. 89 00:04:14,044 --> 00:04:16,404 Speaker 2: I need to see Justin Herbert play a great playoff game, 90 00:04:16,564 --> 00:04:18,524 Speaker 2: because I don't even want to address the other playoff 91 00:04:18,524 --> 00:04:18,924 Speaker 2: game you had. 92 00:04:18,884 --> 00:04:21,204 Speaker 3: Against Jacksonville a few years ago. It's not great. 93 00:04:21,284 --> 00:04:24,444 Speaker 2: You were an AFC quarterback in twenty twenty five. The 94 00:04:24,484 --> 00:04:28,244 Speaker 2: rest of your peers are the Avengers. They're amazing. You 95 00:04:28,404 --> 00:04:31,684 Speaker 2: have to do superhero stuff in superhero moments, and he 96 00:04:31,724 --> 00:04:33,844 Speaker 2: has not yet. So when he starts doing that, maybe 97 00:04:33,844 --> 00:04:37,204 Speaker 2: we'll have the conversation. But until then, Jim Harbaugh, they 98 00:04:37,204 --> 00:04:38,564 Speaker 2: could bring in a Vince Lambar. 99 00:04:38,644 --> 00:04:39,324 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. 100 00:04:39,484 --> 00:04:41,964 Speaker 2: Herbert has to join the club, and right now he's 101 00:04:41,964 --> 00:04:42,844 Speaker 2: behind the velvet road. 102 00:04:44,484 --> 00:04:46,204 Speaker 3: Let's take it easy. Let's take it easy on these 103 00:04:46,244 --> 00:04:48,604 Speaker 3: young guys. I hate hearing about on pace. 104 00:04:48,644 --> 00:04:51,404 Speaker 2: To this, everybody in this era is on pace to 105 00:04:51,484 --> 00:04:54,484 Speaker 2: do something. Randy Mosk, they would grab them, they would 106 00:04:54,524 --> 00:04:56,604 Speaker 2: driple team them, they would hit the quarterback. After he 107 00:04:56,724 --> 00:05:00,204 Speaker 2: throws different era, different sport almost entirely, So I don't 108 00:05:00,244 --> 00:05:01,844 Speaker 2: really think it's apples to apples. 109 00:05:02,084 --> 00:05:02,764 Speaker 3: But the key to. 110 00:05:02,844 --> 00:05:04,764 Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson and what he gonna do, and we're gonna 111 00:05:04,764 --> 00:05:07,244 Speaker 2: watch Randy Moss here the key to it. Randy was 112 00:05:07,244 --> 00:05:09,404 Speaker 2: so good at it, he was so talented, but he also 113 00:05:09,484 --> 00:05:11,404 Speaker 2: had guys who could huck the ball. 114 00:05:12,084 --> 00:05:14,444 Speaker 3: He comes into the league and it's Randall Cunningham. 115 00:05:14,804 --> 00:05:18,204 Speaker 2: He goes to jeff George Dante Culpepper, even when he 116 00:05:18,244 --> 00:05:19,404 Speaker 2: went to the Raider, Brat. 117 00:05:19,284 --> 00:05:21,404 Speaker 3: Johnson, a guy who won a Super Bowl. Even when 118 00:05:21,404 --> 00:05:21,764 Speaker 3: he went. 119 00:05:21,684 --> 00:05:23,964 Speaker 2: To the Raiders, his quarterback was Kerry Collins, was a 120 00:05:24,084 --> 00:05:27,284 Speaker 2: really experienced veteran. And finally he goes to New England, 121 00:05:27,324 --> 00:05:29,004 Speaker 2: it's Tom Brady and by that point he's a first 122 00:05:29,004 --> 00:05:32,964 Speaker 2: ballot Hall of Famer. I'm looking at Jefferson now, Jeffers 123 00:05:33,084 --> 00:05:36,124 Speaker 2: going to his third quarterback in three years, and we don't. 124 00:05:35,924 --> 00:05:38,484 Speaker 3: Know if JJ McCarthy's good. We have no idea. 125 00:05:39,084 --> 00:05:42,124 Speaker 2: So Justin Jefferson has all the talents and the ability, 126 00:05:42,124 --> 00:05:44,404 Speaker 2: and he's playing in the right air to shatter every record, 127 00:05:44,404 --> 00:05:46,964 Speaker 2: but it's going to depend on his quarterbacks. That again, 128 00:05:47,084 --> 00:05:49,844 Speaker 2: is why Jamar Chase has a massive advantage over him. 129 00:05:50,124 --> 00:05:53,324 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase indefinitely is gonna play with Joe Burrow, not 130 00:05:53,364 --> 00:05:56,204 Speaker 2: only his college quarterback, but Jefferson's as well. It's almost 131 00:05:56,364 --> 00:05:58,644 Speaker 2: unfair if you had to pick one right now, you 132 00:05:58,684 --> 00:06:00,404 Speaker 2: think it's gonna put up bigger numbers over the next 133 00:06:00,444 --> 00:06:03,164 Speaker 2: six seasons. I'll pick Jamar every single time because I 134 00:06:03,204 --> 00:06:05,564 Speaker 2: know Burrow can play. I don't know if JJ can play. 135 00:06:05,564 --> 00:06:06,004 Speaker 3: I don't know if. 136 00:06:06,004 --> 00:06:08,804 Speaker 2: JJ's going to be there in two years. It's the quarterback. 137 00:06:08,844 --> 00:06:11,204 Speaker 2: When you look at these guys, so many of the people, 138 00:06:11,244 --> 00:06:14,924 Speaker 2: even to fifty different quarterbacks and all these different teams, 139 00:06:14,964 --> 00:06:17,644 Speaker 2: and then you look at the true, true, true goat 140 00:06:17,644 --> 00:06:20,844 Speaker 2: who's miles away from ever Jerry Rice. It was just 141 00:06:21,244 --> 00:06:24,924 Speaker 2: Montana for years and then into young and then all 142 00:06:24,964 --> 00:06:27,644 Speaker 2: the later years. Who cares about that. You find your 143 00:06:27,804 --> 00:06:30,924 Speaker 2: guy and you stick with him. Jamar has his guy. 144 00:06:31,404 --> 00:06:34,124 Speaker 2: Rice found different, or rather Moss found different guys. I 145 00:06:34,164 --> 00:06:36,884 Speaker 2: don't know if Jefferson has his guy. I hope he does, 146 00:06:37,124 --> 00:06:39,364 Speaker 2: and he'll do fine even of thoughout. But to do 147 00:06:39,524 --> 00:06:41,604 Speaker 2: Randy Moss things, you got to find your guy, and 148 00:06:41,644 --> 00:06:44,684 Speaker 2: his success will depend on a lot on JJ McCarthy. 149 00:06:45,164 --> 00:06:45,484 Speaker 3: Listen. 150 00:06:45,524 --> 00:06:47,644 Speaker 2: On the field, he was a wrestling heel, and he 151 00:06:47,724 --> 00:06:49,284 Speaker 2: had a reputation because. 152 00:06:49,084 --> 00:06:52,044 Speaker 3: He earned the reputation. Dominicansu was on the line. 153 00:06:52,164 --> 00:06:54,204 Speaker 2: I have to say, guys, I know why we showed 154 00:06:54,444 --> 00:06:57,164 Speaker 2: the highlight reel. We just showed them making strips and 155 00:06:57,204 --> 00:06:59,884 Speaker 2: all that stuff. But that highlight reel was like watching 156 00:06:59,924 --> 00:07:01,004 Speaker 2: Goodfellas on TMT. 157 00:07:01,404 --> 00:07:04,804 Speaker 3: It's not really the same movie. It's highly different. 158 00:07:04,884 --> 00:07:07,124 Speaker 2: Okay, that was not the movie that I saw in 159 00:07:07,164 --> 00:07:07,564 Speaker 2: the theater. 160 00:07:08,044 --> 00:07:09,484 Speaker 3: I remember and Dominic and Sue. 161 00:07:09,284 --> 00:07:11,684 Speaker 2: As a rookie coming in with Detroit and Damn near 162 00:07:11,764 --> 00:07:13,844 Speaker 2: ripping Jake Dellom's head off. I think it might have 163 00:07:13,884 --> 00:07:15,164 Speaker 2: even been in a preseason game. 164 00:07:15,164 --> 00:07:16,084 Speaker 3: Like he was fierce. 165 00:07:16,164 --> 00:07:19,364 Speaker 2: I remember him stepping on Aaron Rodgers with his cleats, 166 00:07:19,444 --> 00:07:22,524 Speaker 2: maybe accidental, probably not, and Rodgers like punched him like 167 00:07:22,564 --> 00:07:25,444 Speaker 2: in the hindquarters. Like Rogers had a lot of run 168 00:07:25,484 --> 00:07:29,124 Speaker 2: ins with Sue. He was this guy who enlightened, thoughtful 169 00:07:29,164 --> 00:07:31,924 Speaker 2: off the field, very intelligent, but on the field, like 170 00:07:32,324 --> 00:07:34,724 Speaker 2: on the line, over the line. 171 00:07:34,444 --> 00:07:37,324 Speaker 3: And I'm an estalgised. I missed those players. I think 172 00:07:37,324 --> 00:07:38,924 Speaker 3: we need those players sometimes. 173 00:07:38,964 --> 00:07:43,004 Speaker 2: But he did some really real really brutal, dicey stuff, 174 00:07:43,404 --> 00:07:45,604 Speaker 2: and that was part of what made him cool. There 175 00:07:45,644 --> 00:07:47,884 Speaker 2: was a theatrical part to it where he was quote 176 00:07:47,924 --> 00:07:51,204 Speaker 2: unquote evil as a football player and didn't care about 177 00:07:51,244 --> 00:07:52,004 Speaker 2: being nice. 178 00:07:52,124 --> 00:07:55,044 Speaker 3: I'll miss that, and there's just not much of that anymore. 179 00:07:56,244 --> 00:07:58,524 Speaker 2: Happy for the Jets, Happy for both the players that 180 00:07:58,524 --> 00:08:01,284 Speaker 2: they've signed in this offseason. It's a really really cool 181 00:08:01,324 --> 00:08:03,004 Speaker 2: thing when the guys you draft turn out to be 182 00:08:03,124 --> 00:08:03,684 Speaker 2: something good. 183 00:08:03,764 --> 00:08:05,564 Speaker 3: I just have to know what's next now. 184 00:08:05,444 --> 00:08:08,324 Speaker 2: All right, because you don't get any credit for signing 185 00:08:08,364 --> 00:08:10,524 Speaker 2: players in the win column. You don't get any parades. 186 00:08:10,564 --> 00:08:13,324 Speaker 2: And I go back to these photographs. Let's go back 187 00:08:13,364 --> 00:08:15,884 Speaker 2: and look at these two players. Garrett and Sauce will 188 00:08:15,924 --> 00:08:18,844 Speaker 2: always be linked. And this is an NFL honors after 189 00:08:18,844 --> 00:08:21,844 Speaker 2: their rookie year. And this was the coolest Jets moment 190 00:08:21,844 --> 00:08:24,444 Speaker 2: in a long time, because, oh my god, they swept 191 00:08:24,524 --> 00:08:27,204 Speaker 2: the Rookie of the Year, they got the offense prookiear 192 00:08:27,244 --> 00:08:29,444 Speaker 2: the Defensive Rookie of the Year, and that is tremendous 193 00:08:29,484 --> 00:08:31,764 Speaker 2: credit to them. In the NFL draft, which is a 194 00:08:31,884 --> 00:08:34,444 Speaker 2: very difficult thing that so many people mess up. They 195 00:08:34,844 --> 00:08:37,884 Speaker 2: stuck the landing that year and they got those two guys. 196 00:08:39,164 --> 00:08:42,564 Speaker 2: Since that photograph was taken, the Jets are twelve and 197 00:08:42,684 --> 00:08:46,524 Speaker 2: twenty two. They've won twelve games and they've lost twenty 198 00:08:46,604 --> 00:08:47,924 Speaker 2: two since. 199 00:08:47,644 --> 00:08:49,004 Speaker 3: That photographs had taken. 200 00:08:49,364 --> 00:08:51,924 Speaker 2: The coach is gone, the GM is gone, all the 201 00:08:51,964 --> 00:08:54,804 Speaker 2: coordinators are gone. They've finished third behind the Dolphins and 202 00:08:54,844 --> 00:08:56,724 Speaker 2: the Bills two years in a row. 203 00:08:56,604 --> 00:08:59,364 Speaker 3: And still the last Jets playoff one was. 204 00:08:59,324 --> 00:09:02,444 Speaker 2: When both those guys holding those trophies were in fifth grade. 205 00:09:02,724 --> 00:09:04,924 Speaker 2: I'm glad that they have a very good and I'm 206 00:09:04,924 --> 00:09:07,004 Speaker 2: glad that they have a very good receiver. Do we 207 00:09:07,044 --> 00:09:10,244 Speaker 2: have anything even approaching a good quarterback? Because in the 208 00:09:10,324 --> 00:09:14,124 Speaker 2: time since those pictures were taken, NFL honors Zach Wilson, 209 00:09:14,164 --> 00:09:17,324 Speaker 2: Mike White, Joe Flecko, Chris Drevler, Trevor Simmy and Tim Boyle, 210 00:09:17,364 --> 00:09:19,484 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, and now Justin Fields. 211 00:09:19,484 --> 00:09:21,684 Speaker 3: Is he gonna actually do anything? Are we gonna win here? 212 00:09:21,724 --> 00:09:24,764 Speaker 2: Because as much as I like seeing Garrett, Wilson and 213 00:09:24,884 --> 00:09:28,124 Speaker 2: Sauce holding those Rookie of the Year trophies, it's been 214 00:09:28,164 --> 00:09:30,084 Speaker 2: a few years now. I would love to see them 215 00:09:30,084 --> 00:09:33,084 Speaker 2: holding some T shirts at the end of the season 216 00:09:33,084 --> 00:09:37,164 Speaker 2: that maybe say, oh, Division champs or just a turkey 217 00:09:37,244 --> 00:09:41,204 Speaker 2: leg or a Netflix jacket or just anything after a game. 218 00:09:41,444 --> 00:09:44,084 Speaker 2: Can you have a conversation with Tracy Wolfson after a 219 00:09:44,124 --> 00:09:45,284 Speaker 2: game that matters that you won. 220 00:09:45,804 --> 00:09:48,604 Speaker 3: They're three and seven in prime time since those pictures 221 00:09:48,604 --> 00:09:50,324 Speaker 3: were taken, so listen. 222 00:09:50,684 --> 00:09:52,644 Speaker 2: Great, you stuck the landing a few years ago. 223 00:09:52,724 --> 00:09:53,804 Speaker 3: You signed your players. 224 00:09:54,044 --> 00:09:57,524 Speaker 2: I'd need to see some sort of progress, anything other 225 00:09:57,604 --> 00:09:59,684 Speaker 2: than we signed guys and then we're paying them a 226 00:09:59,684 --> 00:10:01,724 Speaker 2: lot of money and they're good. We've had those guys. 227 00:10:02,204 --> 00:10:03,844 Speaker 2: We know what they're like on the field. We know 228 00:10:03,884 --> 00:10:06,164 Speaker 2: what you're like with them on the field. I can't 229 00:10:06,164 --> 00:10:09,164 Speaker 2: do backflips here in New York City because Sauce and 230 00:10:09,204 --> 00:10:12,684 Speaker 2: Garrett are signed. I'll do backflips when they're actually playing 231 00:10:12,684 --> 00:10:15,204 Speaker 2: the game that matters in December and it's really time, 232 00:10:15,324 --> 00:10:17,884 Speaker 2: So great job. I hate to be such a cynic, 233 00:10:18,204 --> 00:10:20,564 Speaker 2: but it's really time to start winning with those guys 234 00:10:20,604 --> 00:10:24,404 Speaker 2: now that you're paying I actually really like this quote 235 00:10:24,404 --> 00:10:26,644 Speaker 2: from Lawrence, just as a fan, like I've been waiting 236 00:10:26,644 --> 00:10:28,324 Speaker 2: for this quote from Lawrence. I've been waiting for him 237 00:10:28,364 --> 00:10:30,364 Speaker 2: to say I'm tired of this crap. I think you 238 00:10:30,484 --> 00:10:33,004 Speaker 2: need to hear that this is a guy who was 239 00:10:33,004 --> 00:10:34,964 Speaker 2: looked at as the guy who's going to change the sports, 240 00:10:34,964 --> 00:10:37,364 Speaker 2: the greatest prospects since this and this, and it's just 241 00:10:37,844 --> 00:10:41,724 Speaker 2: it's just been middling at best. And they've done everything 242 00:10:41,804 --> 00:10:44,004 Speaker 2: they can possibly do. Now. Two years ago they draft 243 00:10:44,044 --> 00:10:46,524 Speaker 2: to tackle. Last year, they draft a wide receiver. This 244 00:10:46,644 --> 00:10:49,244 Speaker 2: year they trade everything to draft the perfect weapon. They 245 00:10:49,244 --> 00:10:53,204 Speaker 2: have the offensive coach. Now, it's like Trevor, if. 246 00:10:53,004 --> 00:10:56,284 Speaker 3: Not now, when when are we going to see even like. 247 00:10:56,244 --> 00:11:00,444 Speaker 2: A fraction of our expectations from you? Because he's down there. 248 00:11:00,484 --> 00:11:02,204 Speaker 2: You know, he can sit down there in media market 249 00:11:02,204 --> 00:11:05,804 Speaker 2: thirty two where most of the country doesn't care, most 250 00:11:05,804 --> 00:11:08,284 Speaker 2: of Flora that doesn't care, and they could go seven 251 00:11:08,324 --> 00:11:09,924 Speaker 2: and ten this year and no one would bat and 252 00:11:09,964 --> 00:11:14,084 Speaker 2: I to finally hear something from him as a sentient 253 00:11:14,284 --> 00:11:16,684 Speaker 2: leader who's not plugged into the wall and said, I'm 254 00:11:16,724 --> 00:11:17,884 Speaker 2: sick of this craft so much. 255 00:11:17,924 --> 00:11:18,764 Speaker 3: I'm paraphrasing. 256 00:11:19,244 --> 00:11:20,964 Speaker 2: I'd like to hear him say that, I'd like to 257 00:11:20,964 --> 00:11:23,324 Speaker 2: see him play like that. I'd like to see anything 258 00:11:23,364 --> 00:11:26,444 Speaker 2: of substance from this era in which everything now has 259 00:11:26,484 --> 00:11:29,724 Speaker 2: been surrounded with him and they're just sitting by watching 260 00:11:29,764 --> 00:11:32,044 Speaker 2: the Texans every year become the new cool thing and c. J. 261 00:11:32,164 --> 00:11:34,684 Speaker 2: Stroud be coming with Trevor. Lawrence was supposed to be. 262 00:11:34,804 --> 00:11:36,644 Speaker 2: He's very young, he's a lot of football in front 263 00:11:36,684 --> 00:11:38,764 Speaker 2: of him. But I like, let's guts, let's go, and 264 00:11:38,804 --> 00:11:40,444 Speaker 2: I'm tired of this. I've been waiting to hear this 265 00:11:40,484 --> 00:11:43,524 Speaker 2: from Lawrence, and I hope we'll hear more. The Terry McLaurin 266 00:11:43,564 --> 00:11:46,284 Speaker 2: body language is terrible only because the Terry McLaurin body 267 00:11:46,324 --> 00:11:49,564 Speaker 2: language is usually so good. He's usually so charismatic and upbeat. 268 00:11:49,844 --> 00:11:51,764 Speaker 2: He looks beating down. He does not look good. He 269 00:11:51,804 --> 00:11:54,284 Speaker 2: does not look happy, but maybe he looks dug in. 270 00:11:54,804 --> 00:11:57,164 Speaker 2: I would also say, I'm going to be so mad if, 271 00:11:57,244 --> 00:11:59,844 Speaker 2: like twenty minutes from now or twenty days from now, 272 00:11:59,924 --> 00:12:02,404 Speaker 2: I see some Ian Rappaport tweet that Terry McLain has 273 00:12:02,404 --> 00:12:03,364 Speaker 2: been traded to the Jaguars. 274 00:12:03,364 --> 00:12:05,484 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be pissed at that happens. I don't want 275 00:12:05,484 --> 00:12:06,204 Speaker 3: that to happen. 276 00:12:06,444 --> 00:12:08,164 Speaker 2: That'd be like a football crime. 277 00:12:08,364 --> 00:12:11,644 Speaker 3: I want him to be there. It's also complicated, like. 278 00:12:12,084 --> 00:12:14,284 Speaker 2: The record has scratched for the commanders who have been 279 00:12:14,284 --> 00:12:16,924 Speaker 2: in this montage mode of this beautiful run, and the 280 00:12:17,004 --> 00:12:19,364 Speaker 2: new owner is so well liked and the new GM 281 00:12:19,484 --> 00:12:22,204 Speaker 2: is doing so great and they drafted the right quarterback. Well, 282 00:12:22,804 --> 00:12:25,164 Speaker 2: I don't know. Terry mclaurin's been around for a long time. 283 00:12:25,244 --> 00:12:28,524 Speaker 2: He preempts the owner, he preempts the GM. He goes 284 00:12:28,564 --> 00:12:33,004 Speaker 2: back from the dark era. So, if you're a Commander's fan, 285 00:12:33,164 --> 00:12:36,044 Speaker 2: are you team McLaurin like Manty San? 286 00:12:36,164 --> 00:12:38,404 Speaker 3: Are you like you know what I roll with. 287 00:12:38,444 --> 00:12:41,164 Speaker 2: Josh Harris and Adam Peters Like, I'm gonna trust their 288 00:12:41,204 --> 00:12:43,324 Speaker 2: business acumen and their decisions. 289 00:12:43,684 --> 00:12:44,324 Speaker 3: I don't know. 290 00:12:44,724 --> 00:12:46,604 Speaker 2: Here's what I do know, and I'll try to end 291 00:12:46,604 --> 00:12:50,644 Speaker 2: with a thread of optimism. These things usually get taken 292 00:12:50,684 --> 00:12:53,844 Speaker 2: care of. I really do think they usually work out. 293 00:12:54,244 --> 00:12:56,764 Speaker 2: Whether we thought Debo would never play with the Niners again, 294 00:12:56,844 --> 00:12:59,124 Speaker 2: they signed him. And it's not just a Niners thing. 295 00:12:59,244 --> 00:13:03,644 Speaker 2: Typically you don't see star player just completely discarded. 296 00:13:03,724 --> 00:13:04,924 Speaker 3: I think that get it done. 297 00:13:05,564 --> 00:13:08,364 Speaker 2: But geez, I mean, thirty years old, thirty million, he's 298 00:13:08,404 --> 00:13:11,484 Speaker 2: a really good player. I think probably that the fans 299 00:13:11,484 --> 00:13:13,524 Speaker 2: are maybe a little bit more with ownership in the 300 00:13:13,564 --> 00:13:15,964 Speaker 2: GM since they've been so great in the last few years. 301 00:13:17,244 --> 00:13:19,764 Speaker 3: The point is that Tyreek is still in his career. 302 00:13:20,844 --> 00:13:25,124 Speaker 2: He's still a young man, all time great that means, 303 00:13:25,244 --> 00:13:27,004 Speaker 2: you know you're a first ballot Hall of Famer. 304 00:13:27,004 --> 00:13:27,444 Speaker 3: You're in the. 305 00:13:27,364 --> 00:13:31,364 Speaker 2: Conversation in a handful of the greatest ever. It's TBD 306 00:13:31,484 --> 00:13:34,324 Speaker 2: with Tyreek. And that's what I think is interesting about 307 00:13:34,324 --> 00:13:38,244 Speaker 2: Tyreek right now. Fascinating portion of his career as we 308 00:13:38,284 --> 00:13:42,284 Speaker 2: move forward. He has played nine seasons. All time greats 309 00:13:42,324 --> 00:13:45,244 Speaker 2: and first ballot Hall of Famers are made in the 310 00:13:45,324 --> 00:13:49,124 Speaker 2: back half of their careers. It's the Michael Jordan learning 311 00:13:49,124 --> 00:13:52,924 Speaker 2: the turnaround jump shot portion of their careers. So I 312 00:13:52,964 --> 00:13:55,724 Speaker 2: will compare him now. He just finished his ninth season. 313 00:13:55,804 --> 00:13:58,324 Speaker 2: He'd be starting his ten this year. Tenthist here Tyreek. 314 00:13:58,604 --> 00:14:01,764 Speaker 2: Randy Moss from season ten to the rest of his 315 00:14:01,884 --> 00:14:06,244 Speaker 2: career had fifty six more touch downs. Teraroll Owens had 316 00:14:06,324 --> 00:14:08,204 Speaker 2: fifty eight more touchdowns. 317 00:14:08,644 --> 00:14:10,884 Speaker 3: Jerry Rice had eighty two. 318 00:14:11,284 --> 00:14:15,044 Speaker 2: More touchdowns just starting on season ten. And a couple 319 00:14:15,084 --> 00:14:17,364 Speaker 2: of those guys, especially Moss and TiO, did it with 320 00:14:17,404 --> 00:14:20,044 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of different quarterbacks. They did not just 321 00:14:20,204 --> 00:14:22,964 Speaker 2: lock in and ride with one legend. So what I'm 322 00:14:23,004 --> 00:14:25,724 Speaker 2: saying for Tyreek is it's all in front of you. 323 00:14:25,724 --> 00:14:27,724 Speaker 2: You could be an all time great. I don't think 324 00:14:27,724 --> 00:14:29,804 Speaker 2: he is now he's not an all time great. He's 325 00:14:29,844 --> 00:14:32,604 Speaker 2: a great player, but Tyreek has it in front of him. 326 00:14:32,604 --> 00:14:35,044 Speaker 2: If he can find a way in the back half 327 00:14:35,044 --> 00:14:37,484 Speaker 2: of his career to do with these guys like Moss 328 00:14:37,524 --> 00:14:40,404 Speaker 2: and Owens and Rice did, which has continue to develop 329 00:14:40,444 --> 00:14:42,924 Speaker 2: and evolve, he could be an all time great. If 330 00:14:42,924 --> 00:14:44,924 Speaker 2: he slows down a little bit and he doesn't have 331 00:14:44,964 --> 00:14:47,124 Speaker 2: those other gears, and he's a pretty small guy, then 332 00:14:47,124 --> 00:14:50,004 Speaker 2: he'll just be this awesome, awesome player from the twenty 333 00:14:50,044 --> 00:14:51,484 Speaker 2: tens and twenty twenties who went. 334 00:14:51,404 --> 00:14:53,444 Speaker 3: With Mahomes and on and on. All time great is 335 00:14:53,444 --> 00:14:54,924 Speaker 3: in front of him. 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