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Speaker 3: What's up the generation? Welcome to the Big Bets on

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Speaker 3: Campus Podcast. This is the weekend college Basketball betting preview.

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Speaker 3: I'm stucky in joining me as they do each and

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Speaker 3: every Thursday afternoon, my fellow BBOC co host Mike Calabresee

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Speaker 3: and Greg Waddell, get to a quick week recap with

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Speaker 3: some good and some ugly. We will add a futures

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Speaker 3: to our portfolio with the Futures round Table. We'll talk

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Speaker 3: a little with Tanna McGrath to get his America East

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Speaker 3: Saturday betting preview, and then we'll give out some weekend

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Speaker 3: looks for both Friday, Saturday and possibly Sunday on the

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Speaker 3: first weekend without any college football or NFL since August.

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Speaker 3: And no, the Pro Bowl does not count, especially in

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Speaker 3: its current form, so it's all college basketball all the

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Speaker 3: time from here on out. Let's jump right in. Let's

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Speaker 3: do some Let's start with the good start off on

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Speaker 3: a positive note. We talked about this team a couple

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Speaker 3: more starting to come around on Maryland being legit, you

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Speaker 3: know the I know Illinois was shorthanded, but they dominated

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Speaker 3: that game. And then I thought, just tough spot winning

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Speaker 3: at Indiana, coming away with that win, and then backing

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Speaker 3: it up with another home win over Wisconsin. They've now

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Speaker 3: won six of seven. The lone loss came in overtime

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Speaker 3: NCAA Tournament. I'll also give a I got to give

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Speaker 3: a shout out to Josh Hubert of miss State who

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Speaker 3: almost single handedly beat Alabama. Incredible performance for Mississippi State.

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Speaker 3: Alabama shot fifteen to thirty from three. That's basically when

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Speaker 3: you never beat Alabama when that happens, and he almost

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Speaker 3: single handedly did miss Missimmuse State. And this is a

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Speaker 3: wide open layup to take the lead in the final seconds.

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Speaker 3: You gotta dunk that ball, by the way. And then

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Speaker 3: I got to give a shout out to a unsung

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Speaker 3: I have the I watched this, I signed up for

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Speaker 3: what are these games are on? Like Summit? I forget

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Speaker 3: But South Dakota they had a they were shorthanded, which

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Speaker 3: I didn't even know before. I bet it and uh

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Speaker 3: an incredible comeback to hand Omaha its first league loss.

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Speaker 3: So there's some some good that I saw. Greg, I'll

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Speaker 3: throw it to you. Who do you want to shout out?

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The story of this season, we've talked about it

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Speaker 1: Player of the Year candidates. It's Jani Broom, it's Cooper Flag. Quietly,

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Speaker 1: over the last two weeks, Houston has overtaken them, according

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Speaker 1: to every analytics service possible check torvik Ken, Palm Evan, Mia, Haslam,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy. But outside of that game, I mean, this

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Speaker 1: we've seen. Eleven of their last thirteen games they've held

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Speaker 2: Calvary's to shout out your Maryland Cole Rodney Rice. I

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Speaker 2: does that say more about Houston? I mean, certainly, they

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Speaker 2: particularly at home. But this is a positive segment. I'm

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Speaker 2: I don't think we've talked about much. The Johnnies have

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: They swept Xavier, they beat Nova by twelve. They just

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Speaker 2: dogwalk Georgetown in DC by twenty five. They've covered five

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Speaker 2: which I think is interesting because usually in the transfer

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Speaker 2: Those guys have gotten better, you know, under Patino. So

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Speaker 2: I think it goes as a statement to our you know,

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Speaker 2: player development. That's not something that gets mentioned all that

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Speaker 2: much in college basketball anymore. Kind of feels like these

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Speaker 2: have grown together. I just wonder in terms of their

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Speaker 2: could make a run in the Biggiest Tournament. They haven't

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Speaker 2: they play some of the elite teams. But I'm really

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Speaker 2: show it to me in March. You haven't done it

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Speaker 2: So I want to see it as a Johnny fan.

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Speaker 2: I think the defense gives them a very high floor,

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Speaker 3: The good thing is they still will get They'll get

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Speaker 3: some threes. The offense is disgusting. They can't shoot. So

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Speaker 3: my I mean Saint John's against Georgetown, Yeah, their their

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Speaker 3: if they face a team that just you know, that

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Speaker 3: Johnny's are going to be in close games and then

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Speaker 3: if you look like, yeah, they haven't lost. Their defense

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Speaker 3: has been incredible. There's no doubt about that. Their defense

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Speaker 3: is legit. Is Xavier a tournament team right now? Borderline close?

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Speaker 3: If we say Xavier's not, then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Xavier is a pure bubble team right

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Speaker 2: now at best and probably on the wrong side of

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Speaker 2: the bubble.

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Speaker 3: So if we say Xavier's out, Saint John's hasn't beat

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Speaker 3: a single tournament team all year, zero.

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Speaker 1: And three versus KEMPOM Top forty teams. That was my note,

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Speaker 1: So I I like watching Saint John's. I think they

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Speaker 1: Cam Jones has been, I mean, what made last year's

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Speaker 1: Remember this is a safe space. You know what pisses

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Speaker 3: Why not.

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Speaker 1: You've gotta let it out somehow.

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Speaker 3: I gotta go TCU. I had TCU plus fourteen. Luckily

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Speaker 3: they I know some people had a worse number. Some

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Speaker 3: They don't call it. There's a breakaway three the other way,

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Speaker 3: They also lost the starting guard with like ten minutes ago.

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Speaker 3: because that game it was like twenty to nothing, six

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Speaker 3: How about you? Who you mad at? Or what do

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Speaker 1: I'm disgusted by the Tennessee offense because this is a

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Speaker 1: This team just doesn't have those secondary guys. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Speaking of the volls, are you too fearful of them

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Speaker 3: They have a billion point revenge from getting embarrassed in Florida,

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Speaker 3: They're good, but they've also had the easiest SEC schedule

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Speaker 3: If they do that, then they'll be able to set

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Speaker 3: Are you too afraid of Tennessee right now?

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Speaker 1: I am, But I applaud you if you're not, because

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Speaker 1: I see the smurk on your face and you may

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Speaker 1: He toughed out the second half, but he looked like

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Speaker 1: a lot of good points. The Spots screams Tennessee certainly

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Speaker 1: a revenge play. You're one hundred percent right. The Florida

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Ziegler does need to one hundred percent. I need

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Speaker 2: I'm still not over Kansas, but they did against Houston

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Speaker 2: look at it. I think their defense has some holes

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Speaker 1: This is a grind. Now.

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Speaker 2: They're no longer a title threat in the Big Twelve,

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Speaker 2: I want to focus in. I want to see them

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Speaker 2: Colorado by thirty five points because they don't care. I'm

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Speaker 2: just waiting for that to impact some spreads in later February,

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Speaker 2: Ku Ku Baylor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I K has definitely flawed right now.

434
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Speaker 3: They just but Self still trying to figure out just

435
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 3: what this rotation should look like. So we'll see if

436
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 3: he gets it figured out. I mean, I think the

437
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,640
Speaker 3: problem has been at aj store has been a complete disaster.

438
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 3: He's been there.

439
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 2: I mean, he hasn't brought a single thing to them,

440
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 2: And I agree, I mean, once again, though how bad

441
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 2: is Baylor's defense? Could they make them look really good

442
00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 2: even though.

443
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 3: Kansas carved them in transition is what I'm worried about.

444
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 3: But I also worried about Baylor is like a they

445
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 3: don't they're like so short on depth wise right now,

446
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 3: they're coming off two altitude games, one in overtime. I

447
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 3: don't know. I think it's a decent spot for bail

448
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 3: Kansas speaking, you mentioned the three point regression, like bailor

449
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 3: can make them pay Edgecumb's playing phenomenal as of late.

450
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 3: I think that they it would help them if they

451
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 3: got Love. I don't think. I don't know what's going

452
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 3: on with Love, but and Jeremy Roach, if he's back,

453
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 3: they just need more depth, just more like that would

454
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 3: help a lot. I think Roach is close. He was

455
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Speaker 3: in concussion and they played Tuesday. I think it's been

456
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Speaker 3: like a week and a half, two weeks, so that

457
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Speaker 3: could help. And then we obviously have to watch the

458
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,679
Speaker 3: status of Dwan Harris. I don't think he's Kansas is

459
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 3: nowhere near the same team without him out there, contrary

460
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Speaker 3: to like a small minority of Kansas fans who think otherwise.

461
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 3: But Harris, it was a Tuesday game, but he couldn't

462
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Speaker 3: do anything stuff so that he couldn't do anything on

463
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Speaker 3: the ankle on Tuesday. But yeah, there's so there's some

464
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Speaker 3: personnel personnel watch for that game. Any do you have any

465
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Speaker 3: click thoughts on that corect Kaylor Kansas.

466
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Speaker 1: I would lean Baylor for sure. Part of this is

467
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Speaker 1: the big twelve turnaround weekend Saturday Monday too. Kansas has

468
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Speaker 1: il on Monday. You can't tell me they're not at

469
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Speaker 1: least half looking ahead to that. If Harris isn't one

470
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Speaker 1: hundred percent, that's huge. They look broken against UCF a

471
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 1: little bit and got some very fortunate calls late the endgame.

472
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: Stuff was not fixed at all. They still couldn't get

473
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Speaker 1: the ball in bounds. And I mean Bill South you

474
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: said he's trying to figure out rotations. I don't care

475
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: who's available, who's not. kJ Adams, Flory Badunga, and Hunter

476
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: Dickinson on the court together is an insane attempt for

477
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: Bill self, Like those three guys should never play together.

478
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Speaker 1: This is not the nineteen eighties. And I don't think

479
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: he gets enough criticism honestly, Like in the middle of

480
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: the end of last season, he was saying, I just

481
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: can't wait for next year, and we're just supposed to

482
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: accept that aj Store, who was awesome last year is unplayable.

483
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: Ryland Griffin, who was very good at Alabama's unplayable. Now.

484
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: I don't get why more people are porny fingers at this,

485
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: but as Mike said, Hunter Dickinson, this is a theme.

486
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: This is year five. Every team he's ever been on

487
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: just looks like they don't enjoy playing basketball by the

488
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Speaker 1: end of January, and I think it's a good time

489
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Speaker 1: to pounce on VJ edge coming home end of.

490
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Speaker 2: The regular season. By the way, they finished with Texas

491
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 2: Tech and Lawrence at Houston home against Arizona. Like I said,

492
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Speaker 2: I want as many empty calorie wins against Oklahoma States

493
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: and Colorado's of the world so that there's wind in

494
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Speaker 2: the sales of the Jayhawks, at least for public perceptionalise.

495
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Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna fade three games in a row.

496
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Speaker 3: You could see Baylor play a little bit more Zoni

497
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 3: or too to Kansas isn't a great shooting team, so

498
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Speaker 3: we'll see how much Zone Drew uses in that matchup.

499
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Speaker 3: All right, but let's get to our futures round table.

500
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Speaker 3: If you are just joining us are two two team

501
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Speaker 3: futures on the season are Illinois, Texas A and M

502
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Speaker 3: to make the final four. We'll add one today. I

503
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 3: I'll kick things off. Every year we need a horse,

504
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 3: we need to I think, just one national championship future.

505
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go with Iowa State twelve to one,

506
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 3: implying what seven eight percent chance, which I think isn't

507
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 3: too egregious. But I think that if I look at

508
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 3: this schedule. By the way, yeah, they go to Kansas probably,

509
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 3: I mean it's probably a loss, but I mean it's

510
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 3: like a coin flippish game. Even if they lose that game,

511
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 3: you have Kansas State at home, TCU at home, UCF

512
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: Cincy Colorado. I mean, if they win that Kansas game,

513
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Speaker 3: there's a good chance they win six straight coming up

514
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 3: here before they go to Houston, and then you know,

515
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 3: you got Oklahoma State, You have Arizona revenge game at home,

516
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 3: BYU at home, then Kansas State. Like, this is a

517
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 3: team that I think is going to just stack up

518
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 3: wins the rest of the year. And if you look

519
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 3: at their losses, they lost to Auburn on a neutral

520
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 3: court at the Buzzer, they lost to Arizona because of

521
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 3: a fifty five foot prayer and then they lost to

522
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Speaker 3: West Virginia in the game and they went one to

523
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 3: eighteen from three on the road. I think this team

524
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: has all the pieces. You have as good of a

525
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 3: backcourt as you can ask for. You have a guy

526
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 3: and Curtis Jones who can just get red hot. Last year,

527
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: they did not have the post play, and they didn't

528
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 3: have the rebounding. I mean, if you look just last

529
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 3: year's world numbers, they were like one hundred and ninety

530
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 3: seventh in defensive rebounding rate, top fifty this year two

531
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Speaker 3: point percentage offense one hundred and fortieth last year, twenty six.

532
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 3: This year they have the offense to match. They fit

533
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Speaker 3: the profile team that can win the national title. Their

534
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: thirteenth in adjusted offensive efficiency, sixth and adjust the defensive efficiency.

535
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Speaker 3: And they're building depth now because Mam Chilovich, who I

536
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 3: think is really important to their offense, he's been out.

537
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 3: You have some other guys stepping up, but he's coming back.

538
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 3: Cast is off. This will be weak arrest and then

539
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 3: by the way, they're really well coached. Otziberger said, Week

540
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: four is probably aggressive. Week four of his recovery, so

541
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 3: that would probably put him I'm assuming was back February

542
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 3: fifteenth against since the week before the Houston game. So

543
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: I think this team has it all offense defense from

544
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 3: a shot value perspective, they can rebound on both ends.

545
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 3: They don't turn it over, they turn you over. So yeah,

546
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 3: it's I think this is a team. And by the way,

547
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: like if you look and some of the markets out there,

548
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 3: so they're twelve to one in a couple places, I

549
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 3: think they should be like ten to one. And I

550
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: think that they're in that elite tier of like the

551
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 3: top four or five teams. And if I look at

552
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 3: like the final four odds, Auburn's minus won twenty, Duke's

553
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: minus one twenty, Houston's plus one forty. I have a

554
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: States plus one sixty at a very prominent book. But

555
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 3: national title odds, you have Duke and Auburn four to one,

556
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 3: and I can get I with State at twelve to one. Now,

557
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 3: I don't think I was stated is as good, but

558
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 3: I don't think they're too far behind, and I think

559
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 3: they're in that elite tier. So and I have no

560
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 3: interest in backing a team four to one in the

561
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: futures market. So twelve to one is my case for

562
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 3: Iowa stayed as our horse to win the national title. Greg,

563
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 3: you're going to your your backyard.

564
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to my backyard. So I'm gonna propose something

565
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: that I think maybe defies the talking point nationally on

566
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: this team. Michigan State six to one to earn a

567
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,479
Speaker 1: one seed. Now, let's talk one seed candidates here. Duke's

568
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: gonna get one ACC champ. They're going to create separation.

569
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: Houston's gonna get one Big twelve champ, create separation. Auburn's

570
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: likely gonna get one SEC champ, likely some separation outside

571
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: of that. I don't think the East champ is getting one.

572
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: I think you're looking at a team that may lose

573
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: five or six games in the SEC, or the Big

574
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: twelve that jumps up and gets that fourth one seed.

575
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: Maybe in Iowa State, like you mentioned, maybe in Alabama.

576
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: Those are probably the lead candidates or the team that's

577
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: already created the separation. In the Big Ten, the league

578
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: that Ken pomp says is the second strongest league in

579
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: college basketball this year, even bigger, even better than the

580
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: Big Twelve. Maybe they just hold that separation. I mean,

581
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: if they do exactly what Ken Pomp projects. They finished

582
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: the year sixteen and four in the Big Ten. Win

583
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: the game or win the conference by two games, twenty

584
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: five and six sounds like a one seed to me.

585
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to point out the fact that their schedule

586
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: was really backloaded the entire months of November or excuse me,

587
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: December and January, where Michigan State didn't lose undefeated for

588
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: the first time in Tom Izzo's tenure. They didn't really

589
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: play anybody all that good other than Illinois that was

590
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: the game with all the fouls on Yaka Shonas. I

591
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: get it all fair points. But while everybody wants to say,

592
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: oh that the good teams are coming quietly, Michigan State

593
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: has proven they're not gonna lose a bad one. That's

594
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: not gonna happen this season, not going to slip up

595
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: against a team they shouldn't. There will be no black

596
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: marks on the resume, and from a resume standpoint, when

597
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: we talk March. Yeah, maybe it's not great for their

598
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: Big Ten championship hopes, which they're two games up on

599
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: Purdue on right now, that they have some big time

600
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: opponents coming up, but these are quality win opportunities. If

601
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: they go five hundred down the stretch against the Purdues,

602
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: the Illinois, the Michigans of the world, this team's gonna

603
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: be right where they want to be, still be two

604
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: games ahead on everybody else in the league. They're seventh

605
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: in the A people right now. If they start to

606
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: win some of these games, I think that only rises

607
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: and maybe the biggest thing perdue they only play once

608
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: they play them at home at the Breslen Center. I

609
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: know I'm making a case that they're just gonna win

610
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: the Big Ten comfortably, but if they do that, I

611
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: would take a chance on them at six to one.

612
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: You compare it to where Alabama is priced right now,

613
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: you compared to where Iowa status priced to get that

614
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: fourth one seed. They're both around two to one, two

615
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: and a half to one. I think it's really good

616
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: value on the Spartans, who are very likely to win

617
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: the Big Ten at this point. Yeah.

618
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 3: My only pushback would be yeah, I mean, obviously, they've

619
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 3: played the easiest conference schedule to date. Everyone has already

620
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 3: talked about that, but they're you know, their non conference

621
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 3: not great. Does that hold them back from being a one?

622
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, they beat North Carolina in overtime. Are

623
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: we sure North Carolina's getting in there? And then they

624
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 3: lost to Kansas and Memphis on neutral courts. The rest

625
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: of their games were jokes against a bunch of clowns,

626
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 3: So does that hurt them? I Also, my prediction is

627
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 3: that if they're close, they're gonna a very Iowa thing

628
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 3: to do. I will beat them in like the second

629
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 3: the last game to clinch their n birth. But yeah,

630
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 3: I don't hate it. Are you coming or are you

631
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 3: like starting to come around on Michigan State? I mean

632
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: it's hard to They're they're winning this game, so you

633
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 3: have to give them credit. But yeah, I mean, it's

634
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: not like we've seen them against elite teams and you

635
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 3: can always say, like, hey, Penn State wasn't at full strength,

636
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 3: Illinois got a bad whistle, Rutgers wasn't at full strength.

637
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,959
Speaker 3: So there's all these caveats, but the depth is there.

638
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 3: You know, obviously they're well coached. Are you starting to

639
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 3: come around with them or do you still have just

640
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: seeds of doubt?

641
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: No? I am. I think you don't make it through

642
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: the month of January without a loss without kind of

643
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: proving those doubters wrong. And I just don't think they've

644
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: earned the narrative credit that they deserve at this point.

645
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: Their depth is truly impossible to prepare for. Like every

646
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Speaker 1: time you listen to one of the opposing Big Ten

647
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Speaker 1: coaches talk about after the game, they're like, we have

648
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: no idea how to prep for this team because the

649
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: eighth leading scorer might be the guy that kills us

650
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: compared to the first leading scorer. And nobody ever like,

651
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: if they get in foul trouble, it doesn't matter because

652
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: they've got three guys at every single position. I think

653
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: we talked about it a couple episodes ago. Jace Richardson

654
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: is the guy that we want to see merge. He

655
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: went to Madison Square Garden against Rutgers and was the

656
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: best freshman on the floor in a game that did

657
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: have a hobble Dylan Harper, but Ace Bailey played Jace

658
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: Richardson stole the show. In my opinion, off the bench

659
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: for Michigan State. So I see a path for the ceiling.

660
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: I just again, from a March perspective, everybody wants to say, well,

661
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: the tough games are coming. If Michigan State really just

662
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: is quietly very good, that's a good thing. They're gonna

663
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: pick off some of these better teams. It's going to

664
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Speaker 1: improve the resume their top twenty in adjusted offense and defense.

665
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: Right now, I kind of just start to think they're

666
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: a buzzsaw and this might be the time to talnced

667
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: because truly the reason I like this play, I mean,

668
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: otherwise you could just lay the number and bet them

669
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Speaker 1: to win the Big Ten, which is still reasonably priced

670
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: right now. But I like this play because I think

671
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: there's three stone cold one seeds and I think the

672
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: fourth is going to be a gauntlet. And while I

673
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: like Iowa State, I like Alabama, there's certainly other teams

674
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: in the SEC that could work their way into the mix.

675
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: They're going to pick each other off in a way

676
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: that I don't think Michigan State is going to be

677
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: picked off down the stretch.

678
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I kind of want to fade them

679
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: this weekend against USC, just because I think they're getting

680
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: the peak of the market value. But I'm afraid the

681
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 3: USC number one of age in foul troubler screwed. It

682
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 3: doesn't matter for Michigan State. USC can at least compete

683
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 3: on the defensive glass. But does USC have the size.

684
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 3: The USC just gonna get killed inside by Michigan State.

685
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 3: That's my fear there, which might keep me away from USC.

686
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: Wh I can never figure out what. Michigan State just

687
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 3: might just dominate inside. So that's my concern for their

688
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 3: trip out West Calvaryese. What do you got.

689
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with something really conservative here, just to

690
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 2: kind of balance this out. I was going to shock

691
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: to see that Saint Mary's is only about minus one

692
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 2: fifty minus one sixty five to win the WCC. They're

693
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 2: undefeated in conference play, they got a two game lead.

694
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 2: They get the Zags on Saturday in on their home floor.

695
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: It's a simple hedge there. You can just take the

696
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: Zags to win outright, or maybe wait to see if

697
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: you can get a live number and get them plus

698
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 2: a couple points. It's probably gonna close like the Bulldogs

699
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: minus one or two in that game. And then when

700
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: you look at the Gails, it's a pretty simple formula.

701
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: They're just about top thirty on both ends of the floor,

702
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 2: which is extraordinary for you know, mid major or low major,

703
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call the WCC. And then the

704
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: winning formula. They play really slow. They're a great half

705
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 2: court defense, they're a great rebounding team, they have very

706
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: few turnovers, they're incredibly well coached, and they have this

707
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 2: mindset this can be their three peat for the WCC

708
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 2: regular season title. So it's not something that the pressure

709
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 2: is on them in a weird way or they need

710
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 2: to prove it to themselves so they can get over

711
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: the hump against you know, the Zags in conference play.

712
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 2: They've done it, They've continually done it. I think they're

713
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: clearly the class here. So to have them what I

714
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 2: think is a pretty reasonable number at minus one sixty,

715
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Speaker 2: I think that's enough to jump in on SMC.

716
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Speaker 1: Here.

717
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Speaker 2: There's a team that I gave out the other night

718
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: against Santa Clara. I think they held Santa Clair.

719
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 3: Without a buckle thirty nothing wrong.

720
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's like when that's the definition of Santa

721
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: Clair's new money. They're excited, they beat, They're like, Okay,

722
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 2: we're gonna be a real threat in the WCC, and

723
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: then they run into a bus saw. I think, you know,

724
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: the Gales are a buzzsaw. So that's why I threw

725
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 2: out there. Not as sexy as your two plays, Although

726
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 2: I will say about Michigan State, the whole narrative everything

727
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 2: you laid out, Greg, the number was just a little

728
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: bit better because I think to myself, if they get

729
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: into a spot where I was stayed in Houston or

730
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: neck and neck, and they flip flop who wins the

731
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: regular season title, who wins the Big twelve title, it's

732
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: gonna take probably a Big Ten Tournament title at that

733
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: cherry on top to feel like you're really good going

734
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 2: into selection Sunday to get that fourth one seed, and

735
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: I think the Big Ten Tournament is going to be war.

736
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: I think, really, you know, after their first game, they're

737
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: just gonna be playing hungry quality opponents and we just

738
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 2: haven't seen it yet. I don't want to even pretend

739
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: that I know exactly what's inside this Michigan State team

740
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: because they just haven't faced really good teams at full

741
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: strength since November, so I need to see a little

742
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: bit more. But like I said, if it was closer

743
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 2: to ten to one, maybe even like an eight or nine,

744
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 2: I'd be interest. But I feel like the number of

745
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 2: the price isn't quite right.

746
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 3: By the way, Saint Mary's Gonzaga Saturday Night great game,

747
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 3: I'm thinking of taking Gonzaga, which is why I probably

748
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 3: won't go with yours calbaries. But my thinking in this game,

749
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: I mean, we've Gonzaga close out a game against the

750
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 3: quality opponent. I don't know, but Saint Mary's just dominates,

751
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 3: I mean dominates shot volume in like every game because

752
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 3: of their rebounding I mean they're second in the country

753
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 3: and offensive rebounding rate. But Gonzaga is a really really

754
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: good rebounding team, and so I and Gonzaga won't turn

755
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 3: it over top ten in that department. So I think

756
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 3: like from a rebounding turnover, I mean Sat Mary's doesn't

757
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 3: turnout like that's all going to be neutralized. And then

758
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 3: I think it's Gonzaga's talent that wins out, because I

759
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 3: think they do have much more talent.

760
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: But I don't know, do you have any thoughts there, Greg,

761
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: You know, I just kind of agree. Saint Mary's has

762
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: been the class this season. Gonzaga has been so up

763
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: and down. If you get a plus Gonzaga, yeah, I

764
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: think they would beat Saint Mary's. Think they'd beat almost

765
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: anybody in the country. If you get AF Gonzaga, they

766
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: can lose to anybody in this conference. So I'll take

767
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: the team that just is more stable I think they've

768
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 1: been much better coached. I mean, Mark Few still doesn't

769
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: seem to have a pulse on who should be in

770
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: his rotation or who should be featured night tonight. I

771
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: don't like that it always saw a battleg on nuclear

772
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: in Gonzaga's last game off the bench. It's almost like

773
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: it happened by surprise at this point. So yeah, I'm

774
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: staying away from a betting spot purpose just because, like

775
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: I do, get weary of the team that's two games

776
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: up in the standings, looking down at the rival that

777
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: needs this one desperately. But over the rest of the season,

778
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: like Saint Mary's is going to win at least a

779
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: share of this league, so it's a safe play. Like

780
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: Mike said, all right, let's go to the vote.

781
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 3: One for Iowa State, two for Michigan State, three for

782
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: Saint Mary's three two one, you vote for your own,

783
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 3: can't vote for your own?

784
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: Who's me?

785
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

786
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: Oh I thought two was Saint Mary's. No, then three

787
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: sat whatever Saint Mary's is.

788
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 3: Okay, we gotta tie before I break it. Give me

789
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,959
Speaker 3: your what your thoughts are on Iowa State future. Greg,

790
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 3: I'll start with you.

791
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: I I will be honest I like the Iowa State future.

792
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: This was game gamesmanship to try and get my Michigan

793
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: State one across because I knew Mike was voting for yours.

794
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: Iowa State is one of four teams I think are

795
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: most likely to win the title. The one fear I

796
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 1: have with them is who's the NBA level guy, which

797
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: I do think is a necessity. I know that's become

798
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: a talking point in recent ors. I think Mark Titus

799
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: trademark that. But like you know, Kurt Jones is great.

800
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: He was I think, oh for eight or one for

801
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: eight from three last game. It's not necessarily a guy

802
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: I trust to do its six consecutive games. But the

803
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: defense is so high level anyway that it probably doesn't matter.

804
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: As you mentioned, they're upgraded inside. I really like to play.

805
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: This was games from ship to try to get my

806
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: Michigan State across the finish line.

807
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: Cabrey's I mean, if anyone has credibility to say he

808
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: likes Iowa State, it's me because I just dumped on

809
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: this team all last year. And Lipsey. Lipsey doesn't have

810
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 2: to be the offensive guy. He can be exactly who

811
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: he is. He can be a defensive stopper, he can

812
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 2: be a light facilitator any points or just you know,

813
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 2: an added bonus. But when mom Chilovich comes back, this

814
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: team is better than Houston. I don't care what all

815
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: these advanced analytics say. I got my eyes. This team

816
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 2: is better than Houston because defensively, yes, Houston is super

817
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 2: elite in the last ten years. Iowa State's a damn

818
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 2: good defensive basketball team. They're well coached, they're always prepared.

819
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,479
Speaker 2: They have a much higher, in my opinion, at full

820
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: strength offensive ceiling. And I've seen enough of Houston sputtering

821
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 2: out in the second weekend. I know that shed got

822
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: hurt and that you can have some excuses. But this

823
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: Iowa State team, I think has a different gear and

824
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 2: I think you're going.

825
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: To see it.

826
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 2: And I at anything North at ten to one, this

827
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 2: is to me one of the years where there's going

828
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: to be absolute heavyweights that battle their way to the

829
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 2: final four. I'm really hoping that, as always, we get

830
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 2: entertaining round to sixty four, round to thirty two. But

831
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: I want to see Duke, I want to see Auburn.

832
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: I want to see the best team in the Big twelve,

833
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 2: which I'm putting my neck out there saying, as Iowa

834
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: State and not Houston, I want to see those teams

835
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: in the final four, and I think they're one of them.

836
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: So I'm going to go with the Cyclones here. I

837
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 2: think it's a really good bet at this price.

838
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: Let me get one more concern pulse for you. I'll

839
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: play Devil's advocate here. How much of Iowa State's magic

840
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 1: these last two seasons do we attribute to the awesome

841
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: home court advantage? That is, in aims, they haven't lost

842
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: at home in over a season and a half. Haven't

843
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: lost this year, did not lose last year. Go through

844
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: their schedule, they lost eight games. They lost a bunch

845
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: on the road to some not great teams, lost to

846
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: Kansas State, lost to Oklahoma, they lost some neutrals in

847
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: the non con that year. Look at this year. Lose

848
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: at West Virginia, lose at Arizona. But even games they've won,

849
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: they were down big at Arizona State, they were down

850
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: big at Texas Tech, they were even down big at

851
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: Iowa earlier this season. They're a totally different team at home.

852
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: You can trust them at home in an NCAA tournament

853
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: setting neutral site. Yeah, it's not a true road game.

854
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: I just think they're different team. Those guards played different

855
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: when they're not as comfortable in aims.

856
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 2: You know what I like about college hoops as opposed

857
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 2: to college trouble. It's like it seems petty and it

858
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: seems small, and you don't get away with saying like

859
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: that was a quality loss. In college foobol, people like

860
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: hate that. In college hoops, people will listen to that.

861
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 2: What they did against Auburn in Hawaii. To me, that's

862
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 2: the indication that against an absolute colossal team with a

863
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 2: National Player of the Year, they were right there.

864
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: So I think you're a point lead. They blew an

865
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: eighteen point lead.

866
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: They did they were all so who else can get

867
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: up by eighteen on this year's All Burn team?

868
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: So I think it cuts both ways. I have all

869
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: been like, if we're going in on they're better than Houston.

870
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: Houston will not blow an eighteen point lead to anybody.

871
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: I don't care who it is.

872
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 2: True, But I also, you know what, I'm gonna keep

873
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: your number on speed dial when they're down six in

874
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: the tournament and they need LJ. Cryer to beat the

875
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: man and not the complimentary I'll shoot an open three

876
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: kind of guys. I've had enough of the Houston experience.

877
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: Like I said, absolutely upset proof in the first weekend,

878
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: but after that, I'd rather have a team with a

879
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: higher ceiling because it's going to take a really high

880
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: ceiling to make it to the Final four and to

881
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 2: beat any of these teams, and I don't see Houston

882
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: doing Like the win against Kansas was absolute fairy magic

883
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: dust sprinkled over the Koogs in that game. There's no

884
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 2: way they should have won that. They've also had some

885
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: issues in close games that could have lost to UCF

886
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: as well. Messing around there. So we just agree to disagree.

887
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: But I think, once again, putting all this into perspective,

888
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: everything comes down to price. I'd be with you on

889
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: Michigan State if it was ten to one, that's where

890
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 2: my vote was a gun. If this was six or

891
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 2: seven to one Iowa State, I'm out. But twelve to one,

892
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 2: I think it's really good value because I think they're

893
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: not that far away from these elite teams, and the

894
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: Auburn game is enough evidence for me to make the jump.

895
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: Stuck, I'm getting priced by a guy that brought minus

896
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: one sixty five to the futures table today.

897
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 3: Houston Blue, I think Houston blew a like a seventeen

898
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 3: point in the Dalladama a couple years ago. They did

899
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 3: both double digit lead fourteen thirteen against San Diego State

900
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: on neutral court earlier this year in the second half,

901
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 3: which is shocking. I don't know how that happened. All right,

902
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: We're going with Iowa State put on the board Iowa

903
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 3: State national title future. So we got Iowa State win

904
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 3: it all twelve to one, Illinois to make the final four,

905
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 3: tex A and m to make the final four. All

906
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:48,959
Speaker 3: before we get into our Rapi firebats for the weekend,

907
00:44:48,960 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 3: we got another America East Minute from our guy Tanamograd.

908
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 4: Thanks boys, Welcome back to the Amy S Minutte, hosted

909
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 4: by yours truly the world's biggest fan of this stupid

910
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 4: low Major League update on the standings entering Thursday nights games.

911
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 4: Brian is six and zero, Manus five and one from

912
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 4: minus four and two, UNBC and Lowell are both three

913
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 4: and three. Albany three and four, New Hampshire, Binghamton and

914
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 4: NJT all have five losses. The clear seller dwellers of

915
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 4: the league. The biggest news of the week in the

916
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 4: America East. Lowell point guard Caleb Murphy will make his

917
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 4: debut this week. He's been out for the entire year

918
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 4: based on academic eligibility issues, but it's massive that he's

919
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 4: back now because now you can get Quincy Clark out

920
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 4: of the lineup. He has been a mess running point

921
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 4: for Lowell, not helping their turnover issues, and he single

922
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 4: handedly blew the game against Maine last Saturday. Murphy did

923
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 4: post a twenty eight percent assistorate to a fifteen percent

924
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 4: turnover rate with South Florida a few years ago. Throwing

925
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 4: a true facilitator in the mix with Somerville, Covington, Mincy

926
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 4: and Brooks could make that offense really unstoppable. Of course,

927
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 4: they may never learn how to rebound of basketball, so

928
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 4: none of this probably matters. Lowell visits UNBC one pm

929
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 4: on Saturday. UNBC has been going zone heavy lately, playing

930
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 4: mostly zone defense in upset wins over Albany and Vermont

931
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 4: last week. Jim Ferry is a chiropractor. He's a guy

932
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 4: who's going to adjust and readjust as the year goes on.

933
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 4: I don't know if that is sustainable. I mean, Albany's

934
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 4: zone offense is so gross under Dwayne Killings because he

935
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 4: can't coach, and Vermont didn't have either TJ. Hurley or

936
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 4: TJ Long, so they had no shot of beating the

937
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 4: zone over the top. Lowell is a good zone offense

938
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 4: with three versatile playmaking forwards who can all act as

939
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 4: that kind of high post pinman. Of course, on the

940
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 4: other end of the court, unbc's offense is scary when

941
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 4: it's clicking, and they could rip apart Lowell's vulnerable defense.

942
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 4: The Riverhawks are bad at the point of attack and

943
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 4: they haven't defended the interior well, so Bryce Johnson and

944
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 4: company could just attack off the bounce.

945
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 3: Over and over.

946
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 4: These two teams rank among the top three conference teams

947
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 4: in paint points per game and in the bottom three

948
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 4: and paint points per game allowed, so it should be

949
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 4: a really fun matchup and potentially a good overgame. But

950
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 4: I need to see how UNBC plays Brian on Thursday

951
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 4: before making any strong takes here. Maine heads to Patrick

952
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 4: Gymnasium and Burlington Vermont two pm Eastern on Saturday, and

953
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 4: this feels like a dead shot undergame to me. Even

954
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 4: if TJ. Hurley returns from injury, I think you can

955
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 4: just zone Vermont to death. Their offense is so broken

956
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 4: they have no spacing to run the five out and

957
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 4: they have been a disgusting zone offense this year. It's

958
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 4: half the reason why they lost to UNBC last week.

959
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 4: And mark Wood has been awesome in how and when

960
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 4: he deploys the use of his aggressive two to three

961
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 4: zone with Jayden Clayton and Kellen Tynes at the head

962
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 4: of the snake on the other end of the court. Vermont,

963
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 4: for all of the Catamount flaws this year, is still

964
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 4: a very good ball screen covered unit with shmer Bog's

965
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 4: the point of attack which is so important against mark

966
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 4: Wood's ballscreen motion offense. Also, Maine is still due for

967
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 4: all sorts of negative three point shooting regression on offense,

968
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 4: and once that hits those ball screen lanes for times

969
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 4: will close up. Also, the pace in this game should

970
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 4: just be plotting. I mean both games between these two

971
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 4: went way under last year. Bryant visits NJIT two pm Eastern.

972
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 4: Should we go back to the well and hit ngiit

973
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 4: first half again? I think so. They've covered the last

974
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 4: three times. I think in the first half once again,

975
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 4: this team has very solid top five, but no depth,

976
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 4: so they keep up in the first half before flailing.

977
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 3: In the second.

978
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 4: Brant struggled in the first half against Binghamton and New

979
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 4: Hampshire before taking over in the second last week, and

980
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 4: I still think Brian is juiced in the markets. I

981
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 4: still question their offensive efficiency and execution, and I still

982
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 4: question how they play on the road, and they are

983
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 4: just a tad vulnerable in how they defend the dribble,

984
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 4: so I think Tarik and seb Rob can't take advantage

985
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 4: of that. Finally, Binghamton visits Albany at seven pm Eastern

986
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 4: on Saturday for a little Amy's nightcap, and I have

987
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 4: no clue what will happen in this game. I lean

988
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 4: Albany because I still think the Danes are tad undervalued

989
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 4: because of their athleticism, and Binghamton is just horrendous at

990
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 4: defending the dribble. They are just absurdly flat footed and

991
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 4: so they can't stop failing anyone. I mean, Albody won

992
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 4: the first head to head matchup basically only because they

993
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 4: went to the line twenty five times. Binghamton also shot

994
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 4: forty five percent from three at home in that head

995
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 4: to head matchup and still lost by five. But again

996
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 4: Binghamton could just crash down hell against Albany's horrific interior defense.

997
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 4: I have no clue what will happen. I'll probably stay

998
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 4: away from this one otherwise. Thanks guys, and I hope

999
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 4: to see you next week.

1000
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 3: Thanks Tanner, And before we get to some weekend looks,

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Speaker 3: All right, let's get to some weekend looks. I mean,

1024
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 3: I already mentioned the Tennessee spot. Here's a good spot.

1025
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 3: This is a team that's right squarely on the bubble

1026
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 3: that could use a win. UCF against BYU. I think

1027
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 3: this is a good spot. BYU off an overtime win

1028
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 3: against Baylor. They have Arizona on Monday, tricky trip oh East.

1029
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 3: BYU's not been the same team away from home. They're

1030
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 3: three hundred and fifty third and has elemetrics away from

1031
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 3: home metric. They have one win on the road against Colorado.

1032
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 3: They have losses, you know, obviously they lost that Houston,

1033
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 3: they lost a Providence Utah TCU all on the road.

1034
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 3: UCF playing better in January top twenty adjusted offensive efficiency.

1035
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 3: They're twenty first and momentum. I think they can give

1036
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 3: By's defense trouble in multitude of ways. Off the dribble

1037
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 3: and from three, BYU gives up a ton. They're either

1038
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 3: going to zone or pack it in. And their defense

1039
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 3: just really isn't that athletic. I think UCF can take

1040
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 3: advantage and they don't. U s it's not really rim

1041
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 3: or lie it and that's all BYU tries to take

1042
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 3: away with their structure. UCF also has played the hardest

1043
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 3: schedule in the Big Twelve to date, BYU one of

1044
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 3: the easiest. I mean, look at UCF's league losses. Kansas

1045
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 3: twice won, they almost won it larnch I at Iowa State,

1046
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 3: at Arizona in the game they were in Houston at

1047
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 3: home by one. And this is still a team with

1048
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 3: wins at Texas Tech and at home against A and M.

1049
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 3: I think their pressure can bother be ucfs transition defense

1050
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 3: is horrible, but BYU won't hurt them there. UCFS also

1051
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 3: elite at taking away the three limiting three point attempts.

1052
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 3: That's important against BYU. So I mean, this is the

1053
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 3: number one three point at temp to right offense in

1054
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 3: BAU versus the number one three point at tempor rate

1055
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 3: defense in UCF. UCF also wants to run. BYU's transition

1056
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 3: defense is horrendous when they're in the half court, a

1057
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 3: lot of isolation ball with Paul Johnson and Ivy Cerry.

1058
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 3: BYU really bad defending in that aspect. Nineteen percent off

1059
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 3: for Synergy. I think it's a great spot, great matchup

1060
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,479
Speaker 3: for UCF BAU. Not the same team on the road,

1061
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 3: So give me the Knights at home? Greg, what you got?

1062
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: First off? I love the UCF spot for sure. The

1063
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: coast to coast trip for BYU is always scary, and yeah,

1064
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 1: you has been playing really well lately. I am going

1065
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: to go try and pinpoint what I am calling a

1066
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 1: reverse signetti. Here. We have Purdue in Indiana on Friday night,

1067
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: and if you take yourselves back to college football season,

1068
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: you know exactly what happened when these two teams met

1069
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: a very competent football coach against a very overmatched football

1070
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: coach in Ryan Walters. I was packed up. I think

1071
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: they lost by around sixty points and he was fired

1072
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: in about five days. Matt Painter has a chance to

1073
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: get some revenge here. Mike Woodson is so on the

1074
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: hot seat. I mean if This really is a draumatic loss.

1075
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: We could see an n season firing. I think it's

1076
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: almost certainly happening at the end of the year. Indiana.

1077
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: The close game results these last two games, I think

1078
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: are muddying the fact that this team purely does not

1079
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: have a lot of fight when they play some of

1080
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: the best teams in the country. Think back to what

1081
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: we saw in the Battle for Atlantis. They were down

1082
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: twenty eight to Louisville. They were down twenty to Gonzaga

1083
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: before losing by double digits. Five of their losses have

1084
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 1: been pure no shell blowout fashion this year. I think

1085
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: that perdue with a week to prep in macki Arena.

1086
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you just saw the blaw win they had

1087
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: against a much better team in Michigan that offered the

1088
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: same inside dominant size problems that the best version of

1089
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: Indiana in theory should here. I'm not going to bet

1090
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: against Painter and they blew out this program last year.

1091
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: Obviously Zach Edy was there, but when produce has been

1092
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: sizeably better than Indiana, They've had no problems with this

1093
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 1: Indiana program in recent years. Somehow, some way, Mike Woodson

1094
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: comes into this game three and three against Matt Paynter

1095
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 1: in his college tenure at Indiana. I think Paynter wants

1096
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: to leave a little bit of a sting of a

1097
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: sour taste in his mouth, knowing this could be his

1098
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: last chance at him. I expect to run up the

1099
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: score type victory from Bradensmith and the Boilers at home.

1100
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 3: They blew him out twice last year.

1101
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: Right, yep, twenty and twenty one.

1102
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 3: Let's go to Friday. You have a Friday, look, Mike,

1103
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 3: I do last Friday.

1104
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 2: By the way, thanks boiler Makers for absolutely killing my

1105
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: golden player prop. They just boat race Michigan. The Wolverines

1106
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 2: fire up what thirty threes in that game instead of

1107
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,439
Speaker 2: running their offense, and that was I think he still

1108
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 2: got to fourteen. But if it was a regular game,

1109
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: I think it was still the right side of it.

1110
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 2: But you always have to take that into account. Blowouts

1111
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 2: fell trouble whenever it comes to Biggs Friday. I like

1112
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 2: Princeton over Yale in the IVY The Bulldogs are probably

1113
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: going to be favored here, even though it's on the roads.

1114
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 2: Bulldogs are eleven and six overall, four to zero in

1115
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 2: IVY League play, but they played the bottom of the barrel.

1116
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 2: They played Columbia, Harvard, Brown, Dartmouth. Those four teams overall

1117
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: thirty four and thirty four in IVY play four and

1118
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 2: twelve Princeton. Meanwhile, thanks to Devan Mia, we have this

1119
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 2: resume quality metric. They are tops both in wins and losses.

1120
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 2: So you look at what they've been able to do

1121
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 2: and acquit themselves when they've been playing up this year,

1122
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:29,919
Speaker 2: they've really done a nice job.

1123
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,479
Speaker 1: And listen they've done.

1124
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 2: They've whipped Saint Joe's. They upset Rutgers, which the big

1125
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: caveat whenever you're talking about a game with the Scarlet Knights.

1126
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 2: Was Dylan Harper available and healthy? Yes he was, and

1127
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,919
Speaker 2: they still beat him. So zooming out for this game

1128
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 2: in particular, I got Xavier Lee, I got Cayden Pierce.

1129
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: I think they're the two best players on the floor

1130
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 2: and to be in any position to be catching points

1131
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 2: or if it's a true coin flip, I like at

1132
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 2: Yale star John Pulaktis he's been up and down lately.

1133
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 2: He shot them out of the game with Rhode Island.

1134
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 2: I know he scored a toime that game. Will use

1135
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 2: two for ten from three point range, A debt, a

1136
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 2: dud against Brown, not that they needed them in that win,

1137
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 2: and four for thirteen against Dartmouth. If he doesn't play

1138
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 2: really well and he doesn't hurt Princeton from the perimeter,

1139
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 2: I think the Tigers are going to win this one

1140
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 2: by two or three possessions because they're really strong in

1141
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 2: the defensive glass, they don't turn it over, and they

1142
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 2: just I mean, they just need to survive a three

1143
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 2: point barage if it comes, because teams have shot decently

1144
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: well against Princeton from long range this season. But like

1145
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 2: I said, I got the two best players on the floor.

1146
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 2: This is a game that's going to go a long

1147
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 2: way in determining the regular season champ in the IVY.

1148
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 2: I think Princeton's the best team in the IVY. So

1149
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 2: I've been waiting for a nice situation to get a

1150
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 2: decent price, and this is the only time it's going

1151
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 2: to come. The rest of the time for Princeton, they're

1152
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 2: gonna be laying big points outside of playing Yale. So

1153
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 2: I'll go here in the ancient eight.

1154
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Prince's gonna have to make their threes

1155
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 3: here because they're not I mean, they're not gonna get

1156
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 3: any any rebounds on the offensive end, but they don't

1157
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 3: turn it over. And like you said, they are good

1158
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 3: on the defensive glass, which is important against Yale. But

1159
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 3: Yale gives up a ton of looks from the outside

1160
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 3: and Princeton's a good shit team. So if they can

1161
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 3: just make their threes at home, I like the spot

1162
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 3: as well. Go back to you. We just you mentioned Michigan. Uh,

1163
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 3: cal Brich has mentioned golden You're you're looking to fade

1164
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 3: Michigan on Saturday.

1165
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am especially giving golden status because after that

1166
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: Purdue dud, he came home against Penn State and was

1167
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: sick and tried to tough it out, but just did

1168
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: not look like himself at all. I think he played

1169
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: seventeen minutes four and two. I mean, he's never been

1170
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: that low on production in a Michigan uniform and just

1171
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: did not look like himself. So look, betting on Rutgers,

1172
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: or even betting any part of a Rutgers game is

1173
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: a terrifying proposition given you never know who's available or

1174
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: what the status is. I mean, I despise as.

1175
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 3: They win at Northwestern with like everyone out.

1176
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just despise that this program seems to keep

1177
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: it shrouded in mystery. I mean, why can't we just

1178
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: report that Dylan Harper's hurt before the Madison Square Garden

1179
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: game against Michigan State. But regardless of the ins and

1180
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: outs lately for Rutgers, somehow they've been playing better, and

1181
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: it's mostly due to Ace Bailey's dominance to three and

1182
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: two in their last five outright. But Torvik has them

1183
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: the forty second best team in the country. We don't

1184
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen with Harper, but as long as

1185
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: Bailey is playing to this level with the shot making

1186
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: he's been doing really for five games. I know the

1187
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: thirty seven points against Northwestern was one thing, but he's

1188
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: been sensational for the last five games. And he's in

1189
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,959
Speaker 1: that matchup nightmare for Michigan because you've got to try

1190
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: and go Danny Wolf on him, and as special as

1191
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: Danny Wolf has been, he's probably gonna end up in

1192
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: foul trouble or just spending so much effort on the

1193
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: defensive end that it ends up affecting him offensively, which

1194
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: can't happen if lad Golden's not one hundred percent. Meanwhile,

1195
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: while Rutgers is trending up Michigan's been really bad. This

1196
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: is not a little blit. They're two and two in

1197
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: their last four games, one hundred and third nationally in

1198
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 1: that span. The biggest changes teams have figured out how

1199
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: to guard the big to big stuff with Danny Wolf.

1200
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: Perdue just switched it and they had no answer. Danny

1201
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: Wolf has always struggled as a one on one scorer,

1202
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: going back to his time at Yale. Especially if Lad's

1203
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: not healthy. There's nobody that can throw the ball inside

1204
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: to the guard. Play for Michigan is not good enough

1205
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: if you try to move it to Trey Donaldson. He's

1206
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: uncomfortable running pick and roll. So I think Steve Pichael.

1207
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: You know, this year's defense not nearly as good with

1208
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: Harper and Bailey and the in and out of the lineup.

1209
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: But Michael's a great defensive coach. If there's a scout

1210
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: on a team that is out that he can prepare

1211
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: his guys with, he's gonna have them ready. I think

1212
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: Michigan's really easy to scout right now. Rutgers catching points

1213
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: at home, I think they can win the game outright.

1214
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if I'm going to go there,

1215
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 3: But who's playing for Rutgers. The question I'll be asking

1216
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 3: the entire year. I'm gonna go Wake Forrest. Hopefully this

1217
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 3: is coin Flipper's line. What it's projected to be at

1218
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 3: home against Pitt, Wakes Turney chances on life support. If

1219
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 3: you look at their schedule, where are the big wins

1220
00:59:56,200 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 3: gonna come from? They need this game and first, Oh,

1221
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 3: this is a fate a Pit who I'm not a

1222
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 3: believer in this year. Also a good spot for Wake.

1223
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 3: They're coming off two straight losses, but it's against the

1224
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 3: two hottest teams in the ACC, in Duke and Louisville.

1225
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 3: There As I mentioned, the Attorney Lads are on the

1226
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 3: line against Pitt. Major revenge spot here. Pitt knocked them

1227
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 3: out of the Attorney last year in the ACC tournament.

1228
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 3: That game was based on an elimination game. Whoever lost

1229
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 3: it had no chance of getting in. Wake lost that game.

1230
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 3: This Pit team dead last than away from Home Metrics

1231
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 3: Parasla metrics. Their ball screen defense is poor. Wake can

1232
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 3: also get buckets in the post. Wake Forest is horrendous

1233
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 3: on the glass. It kills them in so many games,

1234
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 3: but so is Pitt. Like it's not going to crush

1235
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 3: them in this particular matchup. They're also due to just

1236
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 3: make some shots and own. They're shooting twenty seven point

1237
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 3: nine percent from three at home. I know they're not

1238
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 3: a good shooting team, but they're not that bad. They

1239
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 3: also can live in the mid range in this matchup,

1240
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 3: which is where they're most efficient. But I just trust

1241
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 3: in this spot the Wake defense much more. I mean,

1242
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 3: the Wake defense is legit, like top twenty top twenty

1243
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 3: five caliber. The pit defense is bad. There's holes all over.

1244
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 3: I think it's a good matchup and a good spot

1245
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 3: for Wake on Saturday against a fifteen that just has

1246
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 3: not been the same on the road. So give me

1247
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 3: the demon Deeks calbaryist. What else you got? All right?

1248
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 2: I got one bottom of the barrel that I'm very

1249
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 2: excited to get to in a swack matchup of the year.

1250
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 2: But let's talk Yukon at Marquette first, Golden egos Land

1251
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 2: six and a half. I'm interested in the home favorite

1252
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 2: because I was thrilled to see Yukon pull that out

1253
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 2: of the fire against a Paul and keep them themselves

1254
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 2: a little bit competitive in terms of the spread here.

1255
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 2: They just can't be trusted on the road. They can't

1256
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 2: be trusted defensively. I talk about a drop off from

1257
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 2: a team that you watched the Huskies under early last

1258
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 2: year and you're like, this team is like a Swiss

1259
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 2: watch on both ends of the floor. They are playing

1260
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 2: three dimensional chests. They know exactly what they're doing how

1261
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 2: to take the strengths of every single opponent away from them.

1262
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 2: That's not this team this year. They look lost at times.

1263
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 2: They're still working on their rotations, you know, in terms

1264
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 2: of of both who's on the floor and then actually

1265
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 2: moving to cover open shooters. And we totally touched on

1266
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 2: it earlier. I think Greg was dropping some stats about

1267
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,919
Speaker 2: Cam Jones in conference play. He's eight for his last

1268
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 2: thirty two from long range. This is a thirty eight

1269
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 2: percent career three point shooter. I think, particularly at home,

1270
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 2: if you're trying to bank on a bounce back spot

1271
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 2: for Jones, this is it. But even with him trailing off,

1272
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 2: his teammates have stepped up to the tune of Marquette,

1273
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 2: going nine to one straight up in their last ten.

1274
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 2: They've covered three in a row. So yes, their overall ceiling.

1275
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 2: If you want to talk about what happens in March

1276
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 2: with this team, they can't go very far without Cam

1277
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 2: Jones putting on the Superman costume here. But in this game,

1278
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 2: I'm going to hope that he gets to twenty points,

1279
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 2: and if he does, I'm just looking at this Yukon

1280
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 2: team that I still think is taking on water because

1281
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 2: if you want to talk slumps, Caravan five for his

1282
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 2: last twenty seven from the floor, he fouls out against

1283
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 2: Xavier and a loss, couldn't throw it in the ocean

1284
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,959
Speaker 2: against Apaul. I think he was one for fourteen. What's

1285
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 2: wrong with him? He was somebody who was such a

1286
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 2: reliable role player in the last two title runs. And

1287
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 2: Yukon eleventh among Power Conference team and Hasla Metrics Paper

1288
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 2: Tiger ranking. They've just come on glued. So the last

1289
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 2: part of it is Husky's last year at this point,

1290
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 2: and then how they finished the year first and Evan

1291
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 2: me is defensive rating this year there's sixth in the

1292
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 2: Big East. They're just another team. Just take the name

1293
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 2: brand away, take Heurly name away from this because he

1294
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 2: hasn't been able to coach him up this year to

1295
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 2: pull him out of this. And I know, two possessions

1296
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 2: seems like a lot. I'd probably go up to seven

1297
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 2: and a half in this spot. But I think this

1298
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 2: is the right side. I think Shaka Smart is going

1299
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 2: to get a win. That's going to put a little

1300
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 2: bit more win behind them as they try to race

1301
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:41,439
Speaker 2: the finish year in the Big East.

1302
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do worry about Yukon defending Marquette in their

1303
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 3: all their pick and roll actions. I mean, that's the

1304
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 3: way that Yukon has been playing defense. That's very worrying.

1305
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 3: Maybe Yukon gets McNeely back though, But I also do

1306
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 3: worry about Marquette. I just don't know exactly. I can't

1307
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 3: pinpoint exactly what's wrong with their offense. I worry about

1308
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 3: them on the glass and will they actually get to

1309
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 3: the line like that is Yukon's They foul everybody. Mark

1310
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 3: Att never never gets to the line this team, So

1311
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 3: what gives there? But yeah, Yukon is they're kind of

1312
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 3: just still living on their old reputation as far as

1313
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 3: their lines are concerned. I mean, when's the last time

1314
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 3: they covered at Georgetown other than that man you got

1315
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 3: to go back to like mid December. So yeah, they've

1316
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 3: not sure where the bottom is for Yukon from a

1317
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 3: market perspective. But I do worry about their defense in

1318
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 3: this particular matchup. Oh, by the way, do you know

1319
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 3: it's number one in that hazle metrics paper tiger metric,

1320
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 3: like the least paper tigers.

1321
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 2: Say a Baylor for a while, I think Baylor, it's

1322
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 2: changed because Baylor's.

1323
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 3: No, what are the most they were the most paper tiger, right,

1324
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 3: they're saying the least number one, number one in that

1325
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 3: metric wake Forest. So I have a theory that wake

1326
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 3: Forest there metric from like a metrics standpoint, and they

1327
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 3: were hurt by some like they played a bunch of

1328
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 3: quad four teams four games and they were up by

1329
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 3: like twenty four, like with eight to go, and gave

1330
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 3: up like fifteen oh runs and like meaningless runs to

1331
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 3: make it look like they're only won by eight to ten,

1332
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 3: so which like makes their profile look a little worse overall.

1333
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 3: And that's why they're from a paper tiger perspective if

1334
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 3: you look at that metric, like they're they play the

1335
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 3: better teams better, but that might be just because of

1336
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 3: some of those runs against the worst teams. Wayfar is

1337
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 3: definitely an interesting team. Greg, You're gonna have one of

1338
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 3: the biggest games by the way, Arkansas Kentucky this city

1339
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 3: is a buzz I think the line's out now eleven

1340
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 3: and a half. You got a lot of the Arkansas

1341
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 3: players used I could come back, Coach cal obviously coming

1342
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 3: back curious to see the reception there and that that

1343
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 3: should be interesting. The other big game of the day,

1344
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 3: UNC duke, you have to play here, Greg, I do.

1345
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring some historical rivalry numbers to this. Now.

1346
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: I understand this is a very unique rendition of this

1347
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: rivalry because it's one of the bigger mismatches in terms

1348
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: of caliber of team that we have seen in this rivalry.

1349
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 1: So take all of this with a grain of salt.

1350
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 1: But I had a little hypothesis that going back through

1351
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: the years, the first meeting of the two in this

1352
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: rivalry is usually the game that is played closer. If

1353
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: there is some sort of mismatch, the second game maybe

1354
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: is where the team exploits it. But with two story

1355
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 1: programs that always have big time one and done type

1356
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: freshmen coming in, there's a feeling out process early in

1357
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: what a North Carolina duke rivalry is, and maybe you

1358
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: don't see the full go version of either team in

1359
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: the first rendition of it in twenty two, first meetings.

1360
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,479
Speaker 1: Going all the way back to two thousand and three,

1361
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: seventeen of the twenty two have been decided by single digits.

1362
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 1: That is way more than the second meeting. If you

1363
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: go through the series here and since two thousand and three,

1364
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: if you do look for the times where there's been

1365
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: one team here that's significantly better than the other. There

1366
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 1: have been ten games total so five years since two

1367
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 1: thousand and three where one of these two programs has

1368
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: been top ten nationally and one of them has been

1369
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 1: outside the Ken Pomp top twenty five at the end

1370
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 1: of the year. Eight of those ten meetings were decided

1371
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 1: by thirteen points or less. The spreads at thirteen and

1372
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 1: a half. That's what I'm seeing to open this. I

1373
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: think it's a lot of points.

1374
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 3: R J.

1375
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: Davis six and three against Duke. He's going to be

1376
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 1: comfortable here. You think about the personnel in this game.

1377
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: North Carolina swept Duke last season. Davis, Cadot, Trimble, Withers,

1378
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: Washington all on the floor playing serious minutes in those games.

1379
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 1: Duke really has Tyres Proctor. That's a serious part of

1380
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: this rotation that's been in this moment before. Everybody else

1381
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: is brand new and look, I don't like fading Cooper

1382
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: Flagg as much as I'm sure you guys don't. But

1383
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: there is going to be some WHOA, this is big.

1384
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 1: This is not Wake Forest at Cameron Indoor anymore. Are

1385
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: we ready for this? And I think the reality with

1386
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: Carolina is they are talented enough to play with anybody.

1387
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: I mean, they have had chances to win their biggest

1388
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: games this season. They led in the final four minutes

1389
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: against Kansas, Michigan State, Florida, Wake Forest pit they couldn't

1390
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 1: score sketch out a game. That's a problem. But this

1391
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 1: team is not sizeably worse in talent than anybody in

1392
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: the country. And Duke has been a lot different since

1393
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: Malik Brown went out. This defense that looked like the

1394
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: very best defense in college basketball has been eleventh in

1395
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 1: the country in the last month. Their offense twenty third

1396
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 1: you added up. Duke is ninth in the country in

1397
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: their last seven games per Torvic over the last month.

1398
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 1: Some teams that have been better than Duke in that

1399
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 1: span Michigan State, Auburn, Louisville, Florida. North Carolina has played

1400
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 1: all four of those teams. North Carolina covered thirteen points

1401
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 1: against all four of those teams. I'm going to take

1402
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 1: the tar Heels with the points here. It's as gross

1403
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: as it sounds, but I think it's the right play. That.

1404
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 3: Don't necessarily disagree with that. Who's covering flag though? Just nobody.

1405
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 3: He's just gonna get his whatever, Just nobody. Yeah, it's

1406
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 3: a good point on the Duke defense. So last one

1407
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 3: for me, I'll make it quick. I think it's time

1408
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 3: to sell Creighton. Give me Eric Dixon to go for

1409
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 3: thirty against the calk Drop as he always does. I

1410
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 3: think he goes for thirty every time he plays Creighton

1411
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 3: in Villaneva, pets Creighton at home. All right, that's it.

1412
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 3: You got anything else? Cawbery's I mean?

1413
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 2: I wore my Delta Devil Green to top.

1414
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got Mississippi Valley State, the first plug of

1415
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 3: the year. Wha All the boys.

1416
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 2: In their car driving two and a half hours from

1417
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 2: Ita being in Mississippi to Pine Bluff to take on

1418
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 2: the Golden Lions. Bart Torvik does a zero to one

1419
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 2: hundred thrill factor for every game. This is rated negative nine,

1420
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 2: the lowest game of the entire year. Disrespectful, tor Pick,

1421
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,640
Speaker 2: just disrespectful. Give me the Delta Devils plus fifteen and

1422
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 2: a half year Arkansas Arkansas, Pine Bluff second to last,

1423
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 2: and Ken Palm the Delta Devil's dead last.

1424
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: But here's the thing.

1425
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 2: The Devil's defense looked pretty good against Southern who's gonna

1426
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,719
Speaker 2: win the Swack, and against Grambling. They held those teams

1427
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,759
Speaker 2: to sixty five and sixty three in the past two games.

1428
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 2: Pine Bluff the worst home court in the Swack. First

1429
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 2: time they've been favored all season long against the Division

1430
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 2: one team. Now, all of a sudden, they're laying close

1431
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 2: to sixteen and and the assignment simple, just stop Doc Bradley. Hell,

1432
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 2: he may even stop himself. The guy can turn it

1433
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 2: over five to ten times in a single game. He's

1434
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 2: the whole offense. He's gonna take fifteen to twenty shots.

1435
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 2: A lot of them are gonna be threes. They're gonna

1436
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 2: run plenty of stuff through him. So the high variance

1437
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 2: factor here. If he got into foul trouble somehow, all

1438
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you know, the Delta Devil's gonna have

1439
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 2: a shot to win this thing outright. And this message

1440
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 2: is for you, Art Tate. I need your brother. He's

1441
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 2: the best player on this team. He gave Grambling twenty one.

1442
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 2: He gave Utah twenty three earlier in this season.

1443
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: He is the.

1444
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 2: Only option offensively. If he can get fifteen to twenty,

1445
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 2: I think they can muck this up, hang around. I'll

1446
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 2: be glad to take the points and a shout out

1447
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 2: to They've had just some of the best announcers Mississippi

1448
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 2: Valley State over the past couple of years. Andre Williams,

1449
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 2: junior Calib Brunson. Last year when they won their first

1450
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 2: game of the season, I thought they were going to

1451
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 2: storm the court. They have a rotating students, you know,

1452
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 2: play by play color combo. I hope that this becomes

1453
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 2: an iconic game, they get a win, it goes viral.

1454
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 2: They deserve it. Everyone who's associated with this program. They've

1455
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 2: taken so many check games. They've traveled, they've been you know,

1456
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 2: the road Warriors, playing all across the country, essentially bringing

1457
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 2: in money not just for the basketball team, but for

1458
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 2: the whole athletic department. So my heart is with you,

1459
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 2: Delta Devils. Please please keep this within sixteen points. Arkansas

1460
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,759
Speaker 2: Pine Bluff doesn't deserve to be that much of a favorite.

1461
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 2: You know, almost seventeen points against anybody So there we go.

1462
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 2: There's my swack play.

1463
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,959
Speaker 3: There used to be I think what was the website,

1464
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 3: Greenwood Live. There used to be a some radio show.

1465
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 3: Maybe it's still around that broadcast swack games. Hilarious. It's

1466
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 3: just amazing website. I gotta find it. I'll tweet it out,

1467
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 3: all right, mister d Dalley state, I can promise you

1468
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,600
Speaker 3: I will not be joining you on this bet. So

1469
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 3: good luck. And where's it go? Where's that at? Where's

1470
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 3: it going to be broadcast on YouTube? Are those on YouTube?

1471
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: This one?

1472
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 3: Hold on?

1473
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 2: I have the Arkansas Pine Bluff Hold up here, let's

1474
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 2: take a look.

1475
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 3: I haven't watched the swack game this year.

1476
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 2: It is on the University of Arkansas Pine Bluff Sports Network.

1477
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 2: So you can be able to stream it live all

1478
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 2: of their website, hopefully if you have pay.

1479
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1480
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 2: I don't want a Hawaii Football sixty nine to ninety

1481
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 2: nine situation or you know, having to pay for a

1482
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 2: whole swack package. But I think this is going to

1483
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 2: be free. Sometimes when you click into it, then they're

1484
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,719
Speaker 2: actually streaming it through Facebook Live, which still somehow exists.

1485
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,799
Speaker 3: It's a good place to stop right there. All right, gentlemen,

1486
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 3: Thank you Greg Mike for joining me. I'm glad you

1487
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 3: got your city Valley State mentioned in for the year.

1488
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 3: If they cover, I'll let you do it again. If not,

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