1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. This is the best of with 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 2: We have Tutor Dixon in the mix. 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 3: The Tutor Dix podcast on the Clay and Buck Network 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 3: is fantastic and so many of you are listening and 6 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 3: it's growing every month, and thank you for that. 7 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: Tutor. Let's start with this. 8 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 3: What has the Michelle Obama book tour been all about? 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: Media tour that she's been doing? 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 3: Because the only soundbites that I or you know, video 11 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 3: clips that I've seen of this truly make her seem 12 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 3: less likable to a lot of people. What is going 13 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 3: on here? 14 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 4: Oh, I know she's on this tour where she is 15 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 4: really it's just like a shame America tour, or it 16 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 4: feels very much like a shame America tour because she 17 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 4: talks about how the being the first Lady is not 18 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 4: like this great privilege, and she just kind of rolls 19 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,319 Speaker 4: her eyes when she's asked about being first lady and 20 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 4: being an example for women, and she trashes white people 21 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 4: that white people have been forcing her to straighten her hair, 22 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 4: which I thought, I don't remember anybody talking about her hair. 23 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 4: I guess once she went on vacation as she had 24 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 4: her hair braided and people said something about her hair. 25 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 4: And I think this is not unique to the First Lady. 26 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 4: Anybody who is in the public eye gets constant criticism. 27 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 4: She is not that special, but she wants us to 28 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 4: feel guilty for everything she has had to suffer in 29 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 4: the public eye. 30 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: Well for somebody who is as generally, certainly by the 31 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: left wing media, celebrated and really the biggest corporate entities 32 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 3: and everything else, I mean, Michelle Obama is I don't know. 33 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 3: She's probably worked with Barack a one hundred million dollars plus. 34 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: I mean, they've done incredibly well financially, and the Obama 35 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: dynasty certainly lives on in the media. And yet she 36 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: seems unhappy with America, with the country that was made 37 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 3: her first leg lady. She lived in the White House 38 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: for eight years. She's incredibly rich. She hangs out with 39 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 3: like Richard Branson and the you know, the biggest names 40 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: and well just the biggest names in the world. And 41 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: yet she has a lot of complaints. 42 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 4: She's incredibly rich, she can walk in anywhere, she is respected, 43 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 4: like you said she can. She can spend time with 44 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 4: the biggest Hollywood celebrities. It's not even like a Republican. 45 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 4: You know, Republicans, you're still shunned by half of the country. 46 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 4: Is a Democrat, you're welcomed everywhere. But she is so 47 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 4: mad about I don't know something, And I wish somebody 48 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 4: in these interviews when she has, you know, the other 49 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 4: rich woman sitting across from her, complaining about how bad 50 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 4: life is for women. I wish one of them would 51 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 4: say to her, was the was the Jews the juice? 52 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 4: Worth the squeeze? You know, like, was it worth it? 53 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 4: Being first lady? You obviously hated it. It was so 54 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 4: terrible for you. Was it worth it? Is your life 55 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 4: now worth it? Because I'd love to hear what she 56 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 4: has to say. And she's had that podcast where she 57 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 4: has negatively talked about Barak, which would seemingly be humiliating 58 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 4: me if you were him. She has been disparaging to 59 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 4: people that had been around them in the White House. 60 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 4: But there's this weird twist now to what she's doing, 61 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 4: because she's complaining about having to dress up and having 62 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 4: to have her hair and makeup done, and she talks 63 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 4: about that in this tour that she's on. But she's 64 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 4: very physically fit. She looks great. She does her hair 65 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 4: is done, and she seems to be continuing to get 66 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 4: her hair done, and she has a very she always 67 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 4: is dressed very nicely, and like I said, she looks 68 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 4: like she's fresh and ready to do something next. And 69 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 4: the question is like, what is her plan? And I 70 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 4: had Stacey Washington on the podcast. You've got to listen 71 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 4: to it because she had a totally different take than 72 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 4: what I would have thought when I was talking to her, Like, 73 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 4: I've never thought Michelle Obama was going to come back 74 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 4: and do something major in the public eye, but there's 75 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 4: been some gleamings of like what the future Michelle Obama 76 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 4: could be, and it's kind of terrifying. So you have 77 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 4: to listen to what she says because she makes a 78 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 4: good point and she sees things from a perspective that 79 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 4: I think I wouldn't have seen it. So I would 80 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 4: say everyone should listen to the Tutor Dixon podcast and 81 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 4: and check out what she had to say. 82 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: Okay, well, I wasn't. I don't want to get ahead 83 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: of or get in the way of the podcast listening. 84 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: But I'm certainly curious if you think that Michelle Obama 85 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 3: is actually she said she's not gonna run, and I've 86 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 3: said she's never gonna run, but I'll leave it out there. 87 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: I'll let people go listen to the podcast. But speaking 88 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 3: of people running, you faced off against Gretchen Whitmer in 89 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 3: the governor's race for Michigan. It's very very sad, very 90 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 3: sad that the people of Michigan were not able to 91 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: get that done the right way, and Gretchen Whitmer still 92 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 3: sits in office. So it's a bummer for Michigan and 93 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: for the rest of us too. Well, what can you 94 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 3: tell us? You understand the Whitmer machine quite well. Is 95 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 3: she running for president for sure in the next cycle, 96 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: which would start in basically a year. 97 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 4: So it's really interesting that you ask, because just this 98 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 4: week the Detroit News came out with an article that 99 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 4: is pointing out that she has an entity that raised 100 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 4: seven I think seven million dollars somewhere around seven million dollars, 101 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 4: and that almost her entire campaign staff from her gubernatorial 102 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 4: run has moved over to this entity. And the question 103 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 4: they're posing is is this the entity that is going 104 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 4: to run the presidential campaign? I have no doubt in 105 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 4: my mind. I have never doubted for a second that 106 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 4: Gretchen Whitmer is planning to run for president. It's not 107 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 4: even like a second spot for me. It's so obvious. 108 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 4: She has never held a single political position that she 109 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 4: is not looking for the next political position that she 110 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 4: will be in. And she's done with Michigan. She's been 111 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 4: done with miss since before she ran for office the 112 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 4: second time, and since she has since she won in 113 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 4: twenty two, she has spent so much time overseas, which 114 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 4: is not to do anything good for Michigan. She uses 115 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 4: the taxpayer money to go over there and say that 116 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 4: she's trying to bring business here. Because the state of 117 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 4: Michigan is dying. We have no business. Our education system 118 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 4: is forty fourth in the nation. We have the highest 119 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 4: energy costs doing She's brought no business from all these trips. 120 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 4: I mean, she's gone to Japan, she's gone to Spain, 121 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 4: she's gone to Germany. She's gone to multiple different countries 122 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 4: just in the last few years. And I promise you 123 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 4: it is simply to say I've got foreign policy chops. 124 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 4: I'm going to be able to be the leader of 125 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 4: the free world because I've already been all over Europe 126 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 4: and all over Asia, and I'm ready to do this. 127 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 4: She is using her position as governor to pretend she 128 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: can be present. She hasn't done anything for the state 129 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 4: of Michigan. 130 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: Do you think put aside what I think you and 131 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: I would agree without even discussing it would be the 132 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: extremely unfortunate situation of Gretchen Whitmer actually being president. But 133 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: do you think that she will be a formidable primary 134 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: candidate among the field of Democrats should she run? 135 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: Right? 136 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: I mean, it's one thing to run. Some people run 137 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 3: because they want more speaking fees and book sales or whatever. Right, 138 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 3: do you think that she will, if she enters that field, 139 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: be a top three contender pretty reliably. 140 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 4: I think she is going to find out that once 141 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 4: she's in a real primary, because she's never really faced 142 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 4: anyone in the state of Michigan that was serious, and 143 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 4: once she's in a real primary against a Gavin Newsom, 144 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 4: who actually he I mean, I think the guy is 145 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 4: a total snake, but he's a very good politician and 146 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 4: slick talker. Gretchen and Whitmer is not. She is not 147 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 4: very good off the cuff conversation. She struggles and interviews. 148 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 4: She's very similar to Connell in that sense. She's not 149 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: good on her feet, and she doesn't really have anything 150 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 4: to back up what she's saying because she hasn't accomplished anything. 151 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 4: So I think she's going to run. I don't think 152 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 4: she wins. I don't think that she gets very far 153 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 4: in the primary. I think she's kind of like a 154 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 4: one percent support Kamala Harris because she just doesn't have 155 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 4: that factor when it comes to going to that level. 156 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 4: She could get through Michigan, she's not going to get 157 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 4: through the She's not going to fool the country. 158 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 3: That's really interesting because I know people talk about her 159 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 3: as a I think I hear about her a lot 160 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 3: more really as a likely VP candidate once again than 161 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 3: actually a presidential nominee for the Democrats. But we'll see 162 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: how that plays out. And you faced off against hers, 163 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 3: you certainly know what she brings to the table. I 164 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 3: want to switch gears for a second. Earlier in the week, 165 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: I talked on the show about the change in attitudes 166 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 3: about young women twelfth graders, right, so basically high school graduates, 167 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: they're about you know, they're about to go out into 168 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 3: the world, maybe they're going to college, maybe they're going 169 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: to do something else. And sixty percent of them, the 170 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: latest pupil of women less than men. By the way, 171 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 3: less than young men want to get married. You're a 172 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: woman that we know, what do you think about what's 173 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 3: going on here with young women? Like, well, I know 174 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: you've got four kids, but how is it that young 175 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: women are getting this kind of messaging? 176 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: You know? 177 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 4: I think, I really think that this is happening. I 178 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 4: was actually just talking to someone about this. If you 179 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 4: watch these the pop culture shows, if you're watching what 180 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 4: the messages in high school right now, the message is like, 181 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 4: you don't need anyone, you can do this all on 182 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 4: your own. There is this fantastic life out there for 183 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 4: you alone. But I do think that that's there's a 184 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 4: culture shift where young men are not happy with the 185 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 4: idea of being alone. I think that there's the faith factor. 186 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 4: I think there's been a bit of a revival in 187 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 4: Christianity and there is a bit of a push for 188 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 4: that traditional lifestyle. So I think that there is a 189 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 4: real chance that we see a baby boom in this 190 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 4: country that that's all going to switch. But I don't 191 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 4: know that it happens overnight. I think that we are 192 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 4: going to we have to be steadily holding on. I mean, 193 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 4: I see these battles online right now over different faiths 194 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 4: right and especially in Michigan. I see the battle over 195 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 4: faith all the time, and I think, instead of battling 196 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 4: over which faith is the best, focus on your own 197 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 4: and try to I mean, aren't we called to recruit 198 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 4: people to our own faith? And if if the church 199 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: reached out more, I think that that would be a 200 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 4: huge support to young women. And we're lacking there. But 201 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 4: I see that changing. 202 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: I certainly hope. 203 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: So, Tutor Dixon, everybody go check out the Tutor Dix 204 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 3: Dickson podcast on the Clay end Book Network. 205 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 2: Listened to it this weekend. Tutor, thank you so much. 206 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 4: Thank you. 207 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to the best of Clay Trapps and Buck Sexton. 208 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 3: And we will certainly have our arguments and discussions here 209 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 3: on the show about various Thanksgiving paraphernalia, including I will 210 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 3: start a fight with Clay over this this stuff that 211 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 3: you guys do. What's ali what's it called again? Where 212 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 3: they can't make a pie but then they smash it 213 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: all up and the cobbler, Yeah, it's just a pie 214 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 3: that someone sat on that you don't want to admit 215 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 3: someone sat on, so you call it cobbler. I'm sorry. 216 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 3: I don't make the rules. This is just the way 217 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: that it is. Bruce Rally, what is the best thing 218 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: to eat at Thanksgiving? What is your number one? Your 219 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 3: top thing? 220 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 2: Oh? 221 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 5: Really good stuffing, a creative stuffing. 222 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: Stuffing is is exciting. My thing is why isn't stuffing 223 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: something that is eaten a year round? Like? Why is 224 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 2: it only on Thanksgiving? I don't know. I don't get 225 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: this stuffing is delicious, that's a. 226 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 5: Really good question. I don't know. Does Ginger get any left? 227 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, she's already. You know, she was supposed 228 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 3: to be. They told us she was gonna be twenty pounds, 229 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 3: like the breeder told her she'd be twenty. But she's 230 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 3: like thirty pounds now. So we've probably got to slow 231 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 3: ginger spice down a little bit. She's gotten very good 232 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 3: at She's so manipulative. If she hears she she just walked. 233 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 2: In the room with me now too. She's so cute. 234 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 2: She heard me say her name, and so she came in, Hey, 235 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 2: how you doing. 236 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 3: She she knows that if she comes in whenever there's 237 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 3: tupperware that's been opened, there's a chance that someone's going 238 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 3: to give her some food, and it's like we've trained her. 239 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 3: Without training her, all I have to do is open 240 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: the top of a tupperware lid, and wherever she is 241 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 3: in the house, somehow. 242 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: She can always hear it. She will just she will. 243 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 5: Just appear our cast exact same way. 244 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 2: They do that. Was this for the tins of food 245 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: or for tupperware for. 246 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 5: Just the tins of food? But they hear that and 247 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 5: they come running. 248 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 2: I have to give I have to give you credit 249 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: on something. Ali. Actually, because you mentioned this that there's backs. 250 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 3: There's backlash, backlash against Taylor Swift because quote this is 251 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 3: from Fortune magazine why some fans feel jilted by the 252 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 3: star's trad wife almost Maga codd turn to want to 253 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 3: get married is now. 254 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: A tra like that's a trad wife move. Oh, it 255 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: just to be married. 256 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 5: Worse, it gets even worse. 257 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 6: They're actually accusing her of racism just because she said 258 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 6: I hope our kids look like him, like as a 259 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 6: term of endearment, like when you have children with the 260 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 6: person you love, you hope your kids look like them. 261 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 5: How is that racist? 262 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: I don't understand how people thank you producer rally for this. 263 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 3: I don't understand how people are so crazy about things 264 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 3: like this, but this is increasingly something that we all, 265 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: we all have to contend with. I guess that there 266 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 3: is now a movement where what does that tell you 267 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: though about think about this, everybody, What does it tell 268 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 3: you about where the country is headed? Where believing that 269 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: men and women are different and can't become each other 270 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 3: is right wing coded. Believing that a man and a 271 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 3: woman just getting married and and trying to build a 272 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 3: family together has some right wing flavor to it. That 273 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 3: seems to be what the Taylor Swift fans out there 274 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: are saying. 275 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: I wish you know she I don't know. I don't 276 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: share her politics, and I don't think she knows anything 277 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: about politics. That's fine. 278 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 3: I do wish that she would just for the betterment 279 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 3: for the betterment of American young womendom, who, as discussed 280 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: earlier in the week, I think are are in limited 281 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 3: numbers in talk radio audience world. But I wish, you know, 282 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 3: we had I wish we had all the sorority girls 283 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 3: listening to this show. 284 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: But we have some, we don't have all of them. 285 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: But the truth is. 286 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 3: This should be a moment for I'm not a big 287 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: T Swift fan like some of her some of her 288 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 3: tunes are kind of catchy, but this should be a 289 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: moment for her to just say, hey, girls, go find 290 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 3: a great guy, get married and start a family. Doesn't 291 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: have to be any kind of a giveaway to Trump 292 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 3: or the right wing or anything else. But encouraging young 293 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: women to do this. 294 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: It is a better pathway for them. 295 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 3: Look, should people have the right to sit around and 296 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: play video games all day and you know, eat themselves 297 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 3: into oblivion. I mean, yeah, if they choose that and 298 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 3: that they're able to do it, but that doesn't mean 299 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: that we should encourage them to do it. And I 300 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 3: just think that encouraging people to achieve a family or 301 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: to build a family and go in the direction of 302 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: what civilization has been built on for thousands of years 303 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: seems to be a pretty straightforward proposition for you. 304 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: But then again, you know, we'll see. 305 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 3: I think I might watch because I might have Carrie 306 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: might have a girl's night this weekend, girls' night out 307 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 3: at dinner. And that's where I encourage that. By the way, 308 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 3: I might have a chance to watch the Netflix Frank 309 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: and Stein movie, because Carry doesn't do I don't even. 310 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: Think of that. 311 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 3: I mean it's technically horror, kind of more sci fi 312 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 3: to me than horror, like no one watches Frankenstn. 313 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh, I'm so scared. 314 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 3: But I do like I do like Gillelmro Guillermo del 315 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 3: Toro as a director. So maybe I'll have a movie 316 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 3: review for you on on Monday off next week. Clay 317 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 3: will be back on Monday for sure, and that'll be 318 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 3: fun so we can we can make more jokes about 319 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 3: how he has a halo now because he met with 320 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 3: the Pope. 321 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: You're enjoying the Best of program with Clay Travis and 322 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton. 323 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: A couple of things today. 324 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: I want to throw into the mix for our conversation, 325 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: for our rumination on and and I want to get 326 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 3: your thoughts on it. For sure, I thought this was 327 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 3: This was interesting. It plays into some broader narratives and 328 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 3: concerns that we have. One is this This Pew poll 329 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 3: Pew Research Center came out just a few days ago, 330 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 3: and it's making the rounds now that twelfth grade girls 331 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: are less likely than twelfth grade boys to say they 332 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 3: actually want to get married someday. 333 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 2: Now. More overall of twelfth graders. 334 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 3: So these are roughly like eighteen year olds right summer seventeen, 335 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 3: summer nineteen. But twelfth graders, I think are basically eighteen 336 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 3: eighteen and nineteen. More of them say they would not 337 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 3: get married someday, but not a lot more. But the 338 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 3: thing that I found more interesting about the data here, 339 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 3: and this is also the kind of polling where I 340 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 3: think it. I don't think it's hard to do this 341 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 3: pretty accurately. I think that you're asking for people's opinions. 342 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 3: They're easy enough to find, they're going to share these opinions, 343 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 3: so it's not some political incentive to mess with this data. 344 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 3: It's not like an election or something. So I think 345 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 3: that what's there's something that's concerning here and something that 346 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 3: I actually find encouraging. I'll start with the concerning side 347 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 3: of this. Concerning side of it now is that sixty 348 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 3: one percent of girls say that they want to get 349 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: married someday. As if I'm reading this data correctly, boys 350 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 3: are more likely than girls to say they want to 351 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 3: get married some day seventy four percent versus sixty one percent. 352 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 3: Only sixty one percent of girls say they want to 353 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 3: get married. What is going on here? Well, I think 354 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 3: we know what's going on unfortunately our society, and I think, look, 355 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 3: I've only I've only been around for a certain period 356 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 3: of time, as you know, But for my entire adult life, 357 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 3: to be sure, there has been this I call it 358 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 3: like the Sex and the City Sex and the City effect, 359 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 3: the boss boss girl stuff. There has been a very 360 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 3: clear effort in our culture, a broad, broad effort in 361 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 3: our colture to tell young women to act like men, 362 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 3: not to pretend they're men. That's also happening. That's a 363 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 3: separate issue, right, that's the trends thing. But to engage socially, 364 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 3: certainly professionally as men do, and to view dating and 365 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 3: hookup culture the way that men do, and to instead 366 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 3: of having legal equality and illegal right to choose their 367 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 3: own destiny, they should view themselves more as equal as 368 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 3: in the same as men, and young women are not 369 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 3: the same as young men. You and I know this 370 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 3: is not a recipe for long term happiness for women. 371 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 3: This is not going to result in good life choices 372 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: for most of the women. There are always exceptions. We're 373 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 3: talking about, roughly, you know, a big chunk of humanity here. 374 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 2: We're talking about. 375 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: Women in the team to thirty year old age age 376 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: range here. But I'll tell you I know this just 377 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 3: from if we want to get anecdotal. I know so 378 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 3: many women who are my age now, they're in their 379 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 3: forties that I grew up with in New York and 380 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 3: they had nothing but options, and a lot of them 381 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 3: are not married and they're never going to have families now, 382 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 3: And what do we What would I say to them 383 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 3: if they wanted to hear my opinion on this, which 384 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 3: I don't think they do. 385 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 2: They're probably not listening to this show. But they were 386 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: completely misled by the culture. 387 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 3: They were put down a pathway that was very likely 388 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 3: to cause misery. 389 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: And they're even little small things along the way here. 390 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: I remember when I was when I was graduating from college, 391 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 3: everybody around me wanted to work at an investment bank 392 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 3: or a management consultant firm. Maybe that was an Now 393 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: it's not just an avers thing though. Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth, Amvers, Williams, 394 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 3: you know, Haverford, Stanford, Duke, all these plays. 395 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 2: Everybody wants to they want it. 396 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 3: You want to come out of school, You'll want to 397 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 3: make one hundred and fifty grand your first year out 398 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 3: of school, which is what you can make at some 399 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 3: of these places as a twenty to twenty three year old. 400 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 3: And so that was what everybody wanted to do. But 401 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 3: the hours, especially in the investment banking side, were absolutely 402 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 3: miserable and brutal. Eighty ninety hour weeks expected. That was 403 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 3: if you weren't going to sign up for that. And 404 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 3: I just remember thinking, I was like, how many of 405 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 3: the young women that I knew in that class, really, 406 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 3: why do they want to do that? And this some 407 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 3: way say this is going to sound sexist. It's not sexist. 408 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 3: It's just an objective view of reality. Men and women 409 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 3: have different biological timelines that they're operating under. 410 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 2: That is just a fact. 411 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: Young women putting themselves in the cubicle farm from age 412 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 3: twenty two to you know, thirty, to try to make 413 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 3: VP at Goldman Sachs and grinding away indoors and do 414 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 3: all this stuff. Should they be able to do this 415 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 3: if they choose, absolutely, is this going to make most 416 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 3: of them happy? 417 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 7: Well? 418 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 3: I can tell you none of the ones that I 419 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 3: knew lasted. None of them did it a couple of years, 420 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 3: maybe stayed, stayed in finance, and they all stopped because 421 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 3: guys work overwhelmingly, Why do guys work in finance, Why 422 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 3: do guys do any job where they can try to 423 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 3: make a comfortable living, because they want to be an 424 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 3: attractive partner, a mate, husband for a woman so they 425 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 3: can provide for a family. And you know, this is 426 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 3: why these guys put themselves through this. And you know 427 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 3: the data on the other side of this is also 428 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 3: very clear. They've run these experiments and you don't even 429 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 3: have to do you just think through the experiment. Guy 430 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 3: sees a beautiful woman, a beautiful woman. She's wearing a 431 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 3: power suit. She's a boss babe. Guy sees the same 432 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 3: woman in a different context, she's wearing a McDonald's uniform. 433 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: The percentage of. 434 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 3: Guys who care about this is very small, very small, 435 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 3: just a fact, just the truth. They've done these they've 436 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 3: done these experiments before, you know, and we have led 437 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 3: so many of these women down this young women down 438 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 3: this pathway. And it's my generation that I think it is. 439 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 3: I'm a graybeard millennial. I do have grand my beard. 440 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 3: I'm a graybeard millennial. My generation was just DEI and 441 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 3: the boss babe, sex and the city stuff just just decimated. 442 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 3: Certainly the people who grew up in the big cities 443 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 3: and were around this really inundated with this culture, and 444 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 3: and it's still happening. These young women, you know, don't 445 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 3: want to get married. I mean, you can sit and 446 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 3: watch all these interviews that there's some very actually good 447 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 3: podcasters who do these long form interviews with CEOs who 448 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 3: were wildly successful. And one thing I've never heard and 449 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 3: these different some of these hosts the diary of a 450 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 3: CEO guy. 451 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 2: There's others. 452 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 3: They're always told the same thing by these guys who 453 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 3: have more money than they know what to do with 454 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 3: more success they know what to do with. If they 455 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 3: had to regret, it was I wish I spent more 456 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 3: time with my family. And if they're asked what they're 457 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 3: most proud of and they have a family, you know what, 458 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 3: they say, they're family. I mean, this is all very 459 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 3: very much there first. So I really think that there 460 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 3: need to be more voices speaking to young young women. 461 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 3: Are not going to some of you, by the way, 462 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 3: very glad you're listening to the show. But I don't 463 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 3: know if a forty three year old guy telling women 464 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 3: about their life choices is going to resonate with you know, 465 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 3: twenty somethings who love Taylor Swift like I understand that 466 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 3: may not be my prime demographic for my message, but 467 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: we need more women who can speak effectively to them. 468 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 3: And it's for their own good because they're being led 469 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 3: down a pathway that is not turning out well. And 470 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 3: the fact that you're getting close to almost half of 471 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 3: women don't want to get married, young women, eighteen year 472 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 3: old women, they don't want to get married. Now you 473 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 3: could say, oh, maybe they still want to have kids, 474 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 3: and I would say to that, you're gonna have kids, 475 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 3: you should get married, okay, you you should have a 476 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 3: stable family formation. Shouldn't do the shouldn't do this, the 477 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: baby mama thing, or the shouldn't do this. Yeah, producer 478 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 3: ally tells me some people are getting mad at Taylor 479 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 3: Swift for getting married. No, no, no, this is this 480 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 3: is very bad message they have. Okay, on the good, 481 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 3: so that's on the bad side of things. Women, young 482 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 3: women are being absolutely brainwashed, misled. 483 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 2: It's terrible. I see it everywhere. 484 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 3: And the results are just going to be a lot 485 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 3: of a lot of misery for them later in life, 486 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 3: or a lot of regret. 487 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 2: I should say. 488 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 3: You know, people can find purpose and a lot of things. 489 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 3: And I'm not saying you can't find purpose without a family, 490 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 3: and certainly not saying you can't find purpose without having children, 491 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 3: and a lot of people have difficulty having children. 492 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: But we're talking. 493 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 3: It's like policy, what is going to bring the greatest 494 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 3: happiness results for the greatest number of people getting married, 495 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 3: having a family, pursuing a life where you are focused 496 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 3: day to day outside of your own needs and wants. 497 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 3: It's so it's so important to have things that you 498 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 3: care about. Relationship with God, your wife, your husband, your kids, 499 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 3: your immediate family, you know, your your family member that 500 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 3: you're caretaker or taking care of. You have to care 501 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 3: a cause that's actually worthy, not like climate change, but 502 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 3: an actually worthy cost. You have to care about things 503 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 3: beyond yourself, because otherwise you'll just go through the scale 504 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 3: of hedonic adaptation. Things get better, you get used to it, materially, 505 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 3: things get better, you don't care anymore. 506 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 2: You know. 507 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 3: I was recently out with a guy is a friend 508 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 3: of a friend, very nice guy, and I'm not putting 509 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 3: him down, but I just thought it was kind of funny. 510 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 3: There's a car called a Pegani, which I think is 511 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 3: costs like four million dollars six minutes a car. It 512 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 3: costs millions of dollars. I don't know producer ally, google 513 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 3: what a pegani costs. It's absurd. This has eight of them. 514 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 3: And let me tell you something. The ninth pegani, he's 515 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 3: probably gonna lose it, So it doesn't even care. Right, 516 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 3: you reach this point where that stuff doesn't matter, You 517 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 3: have to find meaning in other things, meaning things outside. 518 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 2: Of your immediate needs and wants. 519 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 3: On the upside though, of this same pupil, the fact 520 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 3: that young men and I love it's a huge problem 521 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 3: for the Democrat Party. It's a huge problem for the 522 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 3: woke left. Young men have gotten the message. Young men 523 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 3: realize toxic masculinity is a toxic ideology of nonsense. They 524 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 3: have realized that that the suppression of traits and within masculinity, bravery, courage, 525 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 3: aggression concentrated in the right ways. You know that the 526 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 3: suppression of these things. Wanting to be the leader of 527 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 3: a family, wanting to be the leader of a of 528 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 3: a of a community, well and what what everywhere that is, 529 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 3: want to be a leader in the workplace, That the suppression. 530 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: Of that is just absolute nonsense. And really destructive. 531 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 3: And young men are realizing this is why they are 532 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 3: turning away from the Democrat Party. That's why young men 533 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 3: are increasingly going back to for those those who are 534 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 3: Christian going back to church. They want more. They want 535 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 3: to lead, They want to be spiritual leaders. They want 536 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 3: to be people that they want to be someone that 537 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 3: their wife can count on, yes, to defend them, to 538 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 3: protect them physically, but also emotionally and spiritually, to be 539 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 3: there for that. We want to have our roles. We 540 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 3: want to pursue the best of what it is to 541 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 3: be a man. Young men want to get married in 542 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 3: greater numbers. According to Pew, they want to be masculine. 543 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 3: Not you know, just oh, I'm shooting up a lot 544 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: of steroids and you know I look like he man 545 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 3: or whatever. No, it's about fulfilling their masculine imperative, their 546 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 3: masculine destiny to be men, that they become good men. 547 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 3: They get it in greater numbers. And it's just because 548 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 3: of the failure of what the left is offering, the 549 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 3: undermining and the hypocrisy and the smugness of our culture 550 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 3: of leftism and liberalism and all this other nonsense. That's 551 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 3: just constantly degrading and pulling men down. They see it, 552 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 3: and they've had enough, and they know there's something better. 553 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 3: And I just truly hope that the young women of 554 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 3: America are on the precipice of a similar renaissance, a 555 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 3: similar rebirth of understanding. But I'm not sure. I worry 556 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 3: women have been greatly misled and the damage is just beginning, 557 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 3: I think to set in for many of them. 558 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: You're listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 559 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: Welcome in. 560 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 3: Let's take a call here from Amy, just north of 561 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 3: me and Fort Lauderdale. 562 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: Lovely Fort Lauderdale. What's going on? Amy? 563 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 7: Hey back, I'm gonna tell you were right on about 564 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 7: the young girls nowadays being misled. I've been in nurse 565 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 7: forty years. I have four children, seven grandchildren, all young, 566 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 7: and I've never met an elderly person who said, I'm 567 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 7: so glad I didn't have kids. Best decision I ever made, 568 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 7: so glad. And I talked to the young girls I 569 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 7: work with, who are all hitting their thirties, saying, nobody 570 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 7: out there, I guess I'm never going to have kids, 571 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 7: and they're desperate to meet young people. A lot of them. 572 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: Well, look, I obviously you agree with me. I agree 573 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 3: with you, Amy, and congrats on this the beautiful and 574 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 3: expansive family you have created. 575 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: A couple of thoughts I have on this. 576 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 3: One is, man, I could do whole shows just on dating, 577 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 3: because I was in the dating world for a long 578 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 3: time and I have all these scars to prove it 579 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 3: in New York City and Washington, d C. No less 580 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 3: as a right wing guy, so you can imagine what 581 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 3: that was like. But I think that women in the 582 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 3: social media era are often trying to pick guys base 583 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 3: more upon look. Men are about looks generally more superficial 584 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 3: than women. 585 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 2: That is like going to shock anybody. Men really are 586 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: superficial about looks. 587 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 3: Women generally, in the past at least have been first 588 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 3: and foremost interested in a man's ability to be a husband, father, 589 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 3: and provider. I think that's changed a bit. I think 590 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 3: that women now more than ever, are what is he 591 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 3: going to? You're talking about young women, so don't please, 592 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 3: if you're sixty, don't say no, buck, That's not what 593 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 3: I think. 594 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 2: I know. I'm talking about the twenty year olds out there. 595 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 3: I think that they want to be able to say 596 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 3: that my boyfriend is six foot three and they want to, like, 597 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 3: you know, have him towering above her on Instagram. It's like, well, 598 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 3: is he a jerk? Is he a great guy? Do 599 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 3: people around him really respect him? Or does he just Paul? 600 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 3: I think that female superficiality in the dating world has 601 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 3: been increased by the social media erawein you could yell 602 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 3: at me. 603 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 2: I think that's true. 604 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 3: One other interesting thing, because I mentioned about the women 605 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 3: in different outfits across all demographics, across all socioeconomic strata. 606 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 3: The three most preferred professions when guys are asked if 607 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 3: you get to pick your future wife could have what 608 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 3: job when you met her? Do you think any of 609 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 3: them say CEO? Didn't getting them say, you know, nuclear scientists, although. 610 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 2: That would be cool. 611 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:48,959 Speaker 3: I think it's nurse, doctor, teacher, not a surprise to anybody, right. 612 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 2: So that's what we just had a nurse calling in. 613 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 3: We'll talk about Maybe I'll throw some more social truth 614 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 3: bombshells out there tomorrow. I feel like all of you 615 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 3: know everything I'm saying is true. It's just all true. 616 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 3: And the angry libs who have been led astray by it, 617 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 3: they're the ones who get mad about it but you 618 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 3: all know everything I say is true.