1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm George Reister. He's Ralph Amson, and this is the 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: College Football Apostles and your boy's been on the road 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: for the last few days, been doing some interviews that 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: we are going to bring to you here on the 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: Unafraid Show. So this show is gonna be a little 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: bit different because I have been totally out of the 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: loop and our man Ralph Amson is going to catch 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: us up today and with all the news and that 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: and so much more. You're gonna love the show today. 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: Keep it locked, make sure that you like, share, subscribe, 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: and get notifications. Let's get to the show because we 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: love college football like you do too, and be one 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: of us here. Okay, So a lot happened in the 14 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: world to college for ball over the last few days. 15 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: I have not been caught up on everything. So what's 16 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: been going on is so we are on the speakers tour, 17 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: the engagement with the universities, already recorded interviews with University 18 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: of Oregon, University of Washington, headed to Arizona State in 19 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: a couple of days. We got start coming from Texas. 20 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: We got a bunch more. I'm not even gonna tell 21 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: you beyond that, but y'all gonna be like, God, dany, 22 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: what are men out here doing it big? Because we are, 23 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: because we're bringing great content for you guys. Be one 24 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: of us hashtag one of us here on the Unafraid Show. 25 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: So been going around and honestly, I gotta be honest. 26 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: When y'all see the footage from Washington, everybody knows I'm 27 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: an Oregon guy. I was upset that I actually liked 28 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: them and then people up there so much. They're actually 29 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: pretty damn Doughe not as open my people up in Oregon, 30 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: but the Washington people had some dopeness the their self. 31 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: But here's the thing that I enjoyed the most, Ralph, 32 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: is that I went up there, got a chance to 33 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: see the upgrades that they're making to the facility, the 34 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: upgrades that they're doing to the program, what Jed Fish 35 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: is bringing. And I was like, Okay, I one hundred agree. Now, Ralph, 36 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: Washington is now a worthy rival. 37 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's quite a draw from So you had 38 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 2: a good trip then, yeah, yeah, yeah. Questions for you 39 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: about your trip because you've been busy. We've been working together, 40 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: but we haven't had much time to just like decompress, 41 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: which is why what's amazing is that you haven't really 42 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: kept up with what's going on this week in college football, 43 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: and there's not too many crazy, crazy stories. There's a 44 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: couple I think you'll be very interested in. Okay, but 45 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: I did have a couple questions for you when you 46 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: go to Eugene. What does it feel like home? Like? 47 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: What's the feeling you get? You go back quite a bit, 48 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: So what what is it like when you go back 49 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: to Eugene. Are you just looking out for things that 50 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: changed or you I'm always. 51 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm always looking out for things that have that have changed, 52 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: because I mean it's not even the same city like 53 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: stuff similar, but there's so many more like buildings that 54 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: are taller because they have the Olympic Trials there. They 55 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: have you know, they've had the World Championships and stuff 56 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: like that. So more hotels, it's a bigger feel. Feels 57 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: like the city's growing. And when I was there, I 58 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: was like, Yo, too many more people come here. They're 59 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: gonna have to expand the road system around this joint. 60 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: The way you don't have like traffic because it's built 61 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: for between Eugenie and Springfield. When I was there, it's 62 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: over one hundred thousand people, but now it's probably damn 63 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: near doubled in size, has to be so so that's 64 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: one thing. So I'm always looking out for brand new stuff. 65 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: And but also and I get off the plane, I'm like, 66 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,839 Speaker 1: bru it feels like home because I spent so many 67 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: years there, the love there that I received, the connections, 68 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: and there are still people there from when I was there. Ralph, 69 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: the video guy, Steve, Steve Paul still there, the trainer 70 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: chief still there, the equipment guy Kenny Kenny was a 71 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: student there when I was a student there, the head 72 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: equipment manager. So getting a chance to see those people, 73 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: and then I've been able to build a relationship with 74 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: the staff over the last few years. So it's been 75 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: good and really for me building relationships surrounding college football 76 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: in general with a lot of the head coaches and 77 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: here is I think, honestly, Ralph, the biggest, like the 78 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: thing that really humbles me the most is that when 79 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: I finished some of these interviews, they're trying to hook 80 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: me up with their other friends in the coaching business, 81 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: like yo, yo, you need to go talk to him 82 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 1: and then direct phone number, texting them and everything. Because 83 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: I have when I got into this business. I understand 84 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: that there's a lot of people who are in the 85 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: hot take machine, and there's a lot of people who, oh, 86 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: I got to be the first with this piece of information. 87 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna break all the news. We've broken news here before. 88 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: But I value relationships over the breaking of news. So 89 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that I'm privy to that 90 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 1: don't make the show because it's either not a proper 91 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: time for it, or it's gonna put somebody or something 92 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: in a bad light that would then mess up the 93 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: access to get you guys, these interviews and things like that. 94 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: So that doesn't mean that we're not going to talk 95 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: about people honestly and you know, and fairly, but it 96 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: also means that we're also going to protect people in 97 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: the situation when it comes to judging, Okay, do we 98 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: break this news now, or do we talk about it 99 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: in a way that is you know that that's honest, 100 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: but it's not like we're telling you exactly, we're hinting 101 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: at it. So that's the thing that I hope, Ralph, 102 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: that people learn to trust that they do trust and 103 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: already and the new people will learn to trust more 104 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: about coming here to the college football apostles is number one. 105 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: We know what the hell were talking about, and so 106 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: sometimes you got to read between the between the tea 107 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: leaves and everything else. But just no, it is coming 108 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: directly from from not necessarily in the building all the time, 109 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: but from people connected to it, and we are going 110 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: to give you honest information here. 111 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, he's a big difference. You love 112 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 2: college football. I love college football. I have a journalism background. 113 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 2: You you played, and you have a media background. At 114 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: the end of the day when it comes to the 115 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: stuff that we do in college football, I want that 116 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: to come through that we love college football. I feel 117 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: like that's a thing that comes through with a Josh 118 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: Pate or a Brandon Walker, or like you look at 119 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: the UFC and you say, Ariel Hilwani, he's in love 120 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: with the sport. He's not just in love with the project. 121 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of great college football writers who 122 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: are whose love is probably split between the subject they 123 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: cover and the act of covering it. And there's nothing 124 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: wrong with that. There's journalism nerds covering college football. I 125 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: want people to look at us as college football nerds 126 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: just happy to be able to participate. So My other 127 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: question for you is, and I don't know if you 128 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: notice this, Seattle people and Portland people they swear they 129 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: are two different species of human. They're not, but they're 130 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: not to every to everybody nobody else. No, I don't really, 131 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: it's hard to tell the difference. I'm just being honest. 132 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: This comes off like regional like race, like a Seattle 133 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: person and a Portland person. Like the only way I 134 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: know how to tell the difference is like, you're probably 135 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: more likely if you're from Seattle to like know how 136 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: to operate a boat, oh first, for sure, because you 137 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: and you're literally from Portland the one more likely to 138 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: have two cats instead of one. But I don't, really, 139 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 2: like I genuinely Okay, I know a lot of people 140 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 2: from Portland. I know a lot of people from Seattle. 141 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: And I'm like, it's like to me somebody who's from 142 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: Minnesota or someone who's from North Dakota. 143 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: Okay, it's similar. Similar, Except for the differences is that 144 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: people in Seattle they got a little like they're like no, no, no, 145 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: no, no no no no, we're big city, like like they 146 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: got a big city chip on their their shoulder because 147 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: they lost the SuperSonics and they're like, hold up, hold up, 148 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: We're just as good as all these other big cities 149 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: around here, and we're better than you, Oklahoma City. So 150 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of that in the in Seattle 151 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,479 Speaker 1: where they don't want to be Portland like the underdog 152 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: that like the Portland Trailblazers are like. But Portland Trailblazers 153 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: aren't the type of underdog that the Sacramento Kings are. 154 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. 155 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that. There's dynamics like that all 156 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: over the country. Like I, you know, I couldn't tell 157 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 2: the difference between somebody from you know, Mississippi State and Mississippi. 158 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, and then I go through it 159 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 2: like I'm a I'm a Tempee guy, you know. 160 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: Okay, See there's a difference between But really the only 161 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: difference between Tempe and Tucson is you're like twenty times 162 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: more likely and Tucson to see a dog at the 163 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: gas station that's given birth three times in the last 164 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: eight months. See see see Here's it's like people who 165 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: root for the White Sox versus people who root for 166 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: the Cups. They're different people. 167 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: One is a loser and one's a lovable loser. 168 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: Wow. All right, so what so what did I miss 169 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: this week in the world The college Football Route? 170 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: Okay, so the first thing I wanted to I've been 171 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: waiting for this just like so much anticipation. I need 172 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: you on the podcast. I need you to google Anika Sorenstam, 173 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 2: and I know this is college football. 174 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: Wait the golfer, the older golfer. 175 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, the goat female golfer. Please google her. Read me 176 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: what comes up on page one of Google. We need 177 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: your reaction on this. 178 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: Okay, it would have Google helped me. Wait, hold on, 179 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: hold on, time out, time out, time the hell out. 180 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: As soon as I got her name, like simply like 181 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: almost right, the first so it said, said her name 182 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: Anna Kasauran Stamp. And then the next thing under it, 183 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: which I clicked on, Anna kasauran Stam. Okay, the next 184 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: thing under it as like a you know how Google 185 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: will like show you what you typed and then it'll 186 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: show you the next things that are most Yeah, it 187 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: said Larry Scott. Next. 188 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 2: That's right, man, she's pregnant. I'm just wait, it's what 189 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: it's worth. 190 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: No, No, Anakasaurian Stamp is pregnant by the former commissioner 191 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: of the PAC twelve, Larry Michael Scott. 192 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: No, it's worse than that. 193 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: And I call Larry Michael him Larry Michael Scott because 194 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: he ran the PAC twelve like it was dunder Mifflin paper. 195 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: So okay, so you want me to click on it. 196 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 2: She's not pregnant. I was kidding. 197 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: Oh she's not. 198 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 2: It's worse. It's worse. 199 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Anaka Sorenstam backs former PAC twelve commissioner 200 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: Larry Scott to lead the LPGA. Okay, okay. So on 201 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: one hand, it's a terrible idea, right because of what 202 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: he did for the PACK twelve. 203 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 2: Sure. 204 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: On the second hand, it's not that crazy because of 205 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: what he did for He was in women's tennis first, right. 206 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: He wasn't women's tennis, yes. 207 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: So now, w. 208 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: H huh. He was the head of the w t 209 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 2: A before he came to the PACKAGE. 210 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:04,239 Speaker 1: So I don't know how much you know, Uh, Serena 211 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: Williams and Martina Navratilova and Billy Jean King had to 212 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: force him kicking and screaming to like get equal pay 213 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: and all of that. But he did preside over that 214 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: era where where their money got up and everything else. However, 215 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: you did have the greatest tip women's tennis player of 216 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: all time and a top ten player of all time 217 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: in her sister in the same era. Okay, so it 218 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: would have been hard to screw that up. However, I 219 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: do not believe. 220 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: But see, but that'd be like calling Jerry hins Doff 221 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: a good owner. 222 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: And and he's talking about Jerry Rhinsdorf who owned the Bulls, 223 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: who him and Jerry Krouse broke up the Bulls because 224 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: they thought that they could do it again. Okay, but 225 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: they did draft Tony Cool coach, they did force Phil 226 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: Jackson on Michael Jordan. They weren't completely just. 227 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: No, no, no, you're right, but Michael Jordan was there 228 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: for all six of those. They don't have one sense, 229 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: They didn't have one before. 230 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: People, I would error on the side of not hiring 231 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: Larry Scott just that. Let's just but I understand how 232 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: it makes sense. And you and you screwed me up 233 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: when he says she was pregnant by it bro that 234 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: that just all right? 235 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: So here, honest question, honest question, why when somebody becomes 236 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 2: the CEO of something, or when somebody becomes the president 237 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: of something and they failed miserably. Right, how come the 238 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: only job they can get after that is to be 239 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: the president of something else? Why don't they get knocked 240 00:14:58,480 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: down several pegs? 241 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like when like when you're a college 242 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: football coach and you don't. 243 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: Don't go be a coordinator like this, step back, Larry Scott. 244 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: This is more like billion dude. 245 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: He's still on severance pay right right now. He's not 246 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: worried about it. He's He's like, oh yeah, another big 247 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: time job, dude. This is think. This is the thing 248 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: is that when you get those types of jobs, it's 249 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: like when you get to be a head coach, people 250 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: don't like you're gonna get another shot probably to be 251 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: a head coach unless you were an utter disaster, because 252 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: that's the way people view you. 253 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: You have to do. All you have to do to 254 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: be relevant in some people's eyes, is to fail an 255 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: attempt at something, right, because people are gonna respect that 256 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: you got there in the first place. Right. You've seen 257 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton's speaking fees. She was never president, right, like 258 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: Larry Scott. The the idea that Larry Scott is in 259 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 2: line for these jobs nuts though, just based on the 260 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: fact that like, look at Billy McFarland, right, Billy McFarland 261 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: tried to do Firefest, ended up going to jail, got 262 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: out of jail, and his big comeback idea was to 263 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: do Firefest again. At some point, you got to learn 264 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: the lesson. Here's this how many times we got to 265 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 2: teach you this lesson, old. 266 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: Man Larry Scott. Here's here's the problem. Larry Scott was 267 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: equipped for the late nineties and early two thousands. Okay, 268 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: he was equipped for that because the first PAC twelve 269 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: deal wasn't awful. It was just that it was a 270 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: little too long and there was no aggressiveness to get 271 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: it on like there Like, he wasn't completely inept, it 272 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: was just that there was some like he's not equipped 273 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: for the future. He doesn't understand what's going on with streaming, 274 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: where the where the pulse of the people is. He's 275 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: a private jetting you know, put the offices in the 276 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: most expensive place in San Francisco. Like he's a what 277 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: are the perks of this job kind of kind of guy. 278 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, bad pilot is still a pilot. Like he 279 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 2: knew some of the stuff he was doing, but it 280 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: was we can't forget it was a nightmare. We were 281 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: the pack of apostles. We're the college football apostles now 282 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 2: because of him. Yes, what's gonna happen when the LPGA 283 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: has to has to negotiate a TV deal. 284 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: He's gonna sign a thirty year deal for like fifty 285 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: million dollars a year, and then in year ten it's 286 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: gonna be like all the other all the other comparable 287 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: leagues are getting one hundred million a year. And you're like, hey, 288 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: but it was landmark when we did it. 289 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 2: I just Ana consortn Stamp should know better. She's an 290 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: Area shoulould you know better? She's an Arizona Wildcat. Her 291 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: conference don't exist anymore. 292 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: Listen, there's a lot of very smart people that kept 293 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: Larry Scott in his job for a very long time. 294 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: And just because anasauric Ana Kasaurustan was a great golfer, 295 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: it does not mean that she was following the world 296 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: of college football. And he can explain away, because I'm 297 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: not saying he's not a smart guy. He can explain 298 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: away why he made the choices that he did when 299 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: it when it came to the Pac twelve, and a 300 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: lot of these were forces that were enacted on him. 301 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: That's the way you spill it. Oh man, See hey, 302 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: hey see you look at the state of college football today. 303 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: You see what the ACC is going through. This was 304 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: the Big Ten and the SEC bullying everybody out. Nobody 305 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: could have done anything better. Yes, you could have got 306 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: Texas and Oklahoma. Then the SEC would be dying right now. 307 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: All right, well, here's this is my ask of the LPGA. 308 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 2: Go back, listen to the first season of Fact twelve 309 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 2: Apostles and then and then use Google in a specific 310 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: timeframe for the end of Larry Scott's tenure. And remember 311 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: everything that we talked about and predicted going wrong. 312 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: Bro. Literally, people were like, George, why are you so doomsday? 313 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: You don't know what's happening. And then and then you 314 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: had other people who report on the PAC twelve and 315 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: all of this stuff, and they were like, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, 316 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: they're nearing a deal, they're figuring it out. The conference 317 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: says that this is happening, and we're like, no, no, 318 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: And one of us was right one and now I'm 319 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: not talking about me and you. I'm talking about either 320 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve Apostles was right or other people were right. 321 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: All right, I got the next thing for you. Okay, 322 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: so you will be thrilled to learn that Connor Stallions 323 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: at least manifesto. No he didn't, well, you're right, he didn't. 324 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: Not the one everybody. Oh, I was like, I was like, what, 325 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 2: he got a new one And it's the five thousand 326 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 2: words he posted on X today about how seven on 327 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: seven is bad for kids? 328 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: Do you know what? 329 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 2: This man went full unibomber and posted like ten thousand 330 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 2: characters coming out against seven on seven. And I was 331 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 2: curious as to your what your thoughts were about that. 332 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 2: Connor Stallion's out here in the public establishing himself as 333 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 2: the moral conscience of youth football. 334 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: Okay, so first and foremost, now I want to read it. 335 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: Well, if you got a half hour of. 336 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: Forty five, all right, make sure you tag me in 337 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: this because I am going to read it. Because here's 338 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: the thing that I will say. You've watched the movie, 339 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: catch me if you can, right of course. Yeah, And 340 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: what happened at the very end of the movie. And 341 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: what is that man doing at least until up until recently. 342 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what he's doing the last five years, 343 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: but up at least until bit before COVID. What was 344 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: he doing. 345 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 2: Making sure that you catch the other Frank abocnally's before 346 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 2: they turn into Frank abognally. 347 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: Yep. So if you understand, like and this happens all 348 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: the time, hackers get caught, criminals get caught, and then 349 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: they end up working for the government to catch the 350 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: criminals because they're so damn good at it that they 351 00:21:55,440 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: know where the problems are. I believe that Connor Stylee 352 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: is a freaking genius. Bro. I think believe that he's 353 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: a genius, a forward thinker, and I would hire him 354 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: on my college football team if I felt like I 355 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: could trust him. You see what I'm saying, Because if 356 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: Connor Stallions is in with you, he's the I'm gonna 357 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: do whatever it takes to get it. But we got 358 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: a real yeah in Connor. We got a real yeah. 359 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: Because I do think that he probably has some I 360 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: would be interested to hear his thoughts on recruiting his 361 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: data on it, because I do believe that he has 362 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: put significant time interest. I believe that is his research skills. 363 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: I believe are his research skills and his relentlessness about 364 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: them are probably some of the highest around. So but 365 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: Is he a cheat too, Yes, so I definitely do 366 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: believe that he probably in the midst of this, has 367 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: something spectacularly good to say, even if it's not. You know, 368 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: if you said it's ten thousand characters, if like, there 369 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: could be four thousand characters of gold, and then you 370 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: might have to throw six thousand characters out. It's like 371 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: anybody else who is you know, like Elon Musk. He 372 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: does some good things and some of it you gotta 373 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: throw out in the trash. Kanye has done some really 374 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: good things and has some great ideas, but he also 375 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: has some trash ass ideas too, and you just and 376 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: you got to be able to sort through it. And 377 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: I say a quote, don't throw out a message because 378 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: you don't like the messenger. Because even the broken clock 379 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: is right twice a day. 380 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:01,239 Speaker 2: That's true. That's true. I guess the next thing I 381 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 2: have for you is general managers. In college football, we're 382 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: getting to the point where most teams have one. Some 383 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: don't call it a general manager, but most teams are 384 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: positioning themselves to have somebody in charge of football. Nebraska 385 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: is hiring the new England Patriots director of Pro personnel, 386 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 2: Patrick Stewart, and The big one is University of Oklahoma 387 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: is hiring Jim Naggy, Yes, head of the Recis Bowl, 388 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 2: to takeover at Oklahoma. Now, that's a big name. That's 389 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 2: a popular name because he's good at marketing himself. He's 390 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 2: a fantastic interview and he did a really really good 391 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: job making the Senior Bowl. Uh, not like a side 392 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 2: event of the whole draft process. It's like a feature now. Yeah, 393 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 2: and so I guess my ask of you is you 394 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 2: see all these names, some of them are are you know, 395 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 2: very familiar. SMU has j R. Sandlin, you know who's 396 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 2: been around in a million different roles. University of North 397 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 2: Carolina has Michael Lombardi and they're paying in one point 398 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 2: five million annually to do that job. You know, Now 399 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 2: you have, you have Jim Naggy. Moving on, you're getting 400 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 2: NFL player personnel people coming into college. Uh. And then 401 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 2: I think you kind of have even like Ron Rivera 402 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: in a role kind of like that with with Cal 403 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 2: You're getting big, big names involved in in being a 404 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 2: college football general manager. A couple of things. If you're 405 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: hiring a general manager for your program, what kind of 406 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 2: person are you looking to? A numbers guy? A fundraiser, 407 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: a talent scout, somebody who's personal like used car salesman. 408 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 2: In the non derogatory way, what are your most important 409 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 2: characteristics of somebody you'd be trying to hire into this role. 410 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: It depends on my head coach, okay, because on one hand, 411 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: if I got to pay my general manager one point 412 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: five million dollars, like I mean, that's taken away some 413 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: of the duties that the head coach was doing. Okay, 414 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: if we're really being honest. So this is a new 415 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: era and a new day. So let's say that I 416 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: have a head coach like Kirby smart, right, right, I 417 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: want my general manager to So Georgia has already whatever 418 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: Kirby has in place already in terms of their processes 419 00:26:54,240 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: for scouting, their processes for recruiting and understanding like talent 420 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: an evaluation. They're clearly doing a great job of that 421 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:08,239 Speaker 1: at Georgia, right yeah, Okay, So their general manager is 422 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: probably going to be the guy that is going to 423 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: be a bean counter on some on some level, like 424 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: his job is to manage the salary cap. His job 425 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: is to understand how much they can pay players and 426 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: understand the business of the football and too, that way 427 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: then be able to present this information to the head 428 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: coach for the head coach to then make the choices. 429 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: So because I do think that the that a guy 430 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: like Kirby, he's focused on coaching the coaches and that 431 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: THEX like you don't need help x's and o's, you 432 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: don't need help scouting. So I think for Georgia that 433 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: that the ask is a little bit different, right if 434 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: you will that that makes. 435 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: Sense, It makes sense that it would be conditional. Yeah, 436 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: so you take a school like Stanford, right, Stanford is Andrew, Look, 437 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: that's a unique dude. 438 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 1: He's got to figure out how to make Stanford cool, 439 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: Like he's got to figure out how to market Stanford 440 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: not as a not as a I mean, everybody understands 441 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: what Stanford is as an academic institution. But this era 442 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: of players doesn't relate to the David Shaw era, Like 443 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel as like that it was so short 444 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: between Jim Harbaugh and David Shaw that it didn't you 445 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: know that it didn't stick with people. And so like 446 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: you need to make Stanford what Notre Dame is in 447 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: football prestige, and I know that that Stanford stands above 448 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: Notre Dame on the actandemic prestige level. However, though, too 449 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: Stanford has to buy in like if like Stanford has 450 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: to want to win in football, and that doesn't mean 451 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: that you have to relax all of your academic standards, 452 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: but you do have to be a little more kind 453 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: when it comes to getting good players in because there 454 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: are plenty of good players who can do your work 455 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: and everything else. And then the second thing that Stanford 456 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: has to do is they got to let people in 457 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: grad school because you're not gonna cause you can't keep 458 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: your fifth year seniors after they graduate because of the 459 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: stance of the school. And then the players have to 460 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: stay on campus, or at least had to, and then 461 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: they're having to move like they're put in the same 462 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:52,959 Speaker 1: lottery for housing that the rest of the students are. 463 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 2: So like, so, what do you think that somebody like 464 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 2: him is the right move? Because having a scout at 465 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: Stanford doesn't make sense. No, no, because you could scout 466 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: people all day. They're not qualified to come to your school. 467 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. 468 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I So for for Andrew Luck, he's got 469 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: to be the liaison between football and the university. He's 470 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: the guy that's probably built up enough cachet to be 471 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 1: able to go to the administration and be like, here 472 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: are the things that we need if you want to 473 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: win at football, we need these things, and he may 474 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: be the guy to be able to get it. So 475 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: I think that, and then he's got to then figure 476 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: out the marketing plan for Stanford football to make kids yo, 477 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: I want to go to Stanford. I want to go 478 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: to Stanford. Like, you got to make it cool. It's 479 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: not even cool to their fans. Their stadium is empty 480 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: every damn time. So like his job is going to 481 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: be community outreach, Like, like, you gotta make Stanford what 482 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: USC is in terms of USC has so many fans 483 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,239 Speaker 1: now now granted we have talked about the passion and 484 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: all of that stuff, but they have a ton of fans. 485 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: There are more people running around southern California with USC 486 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: tattoos that have never been to USC. And that's what 487 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: you got to make Stanford into to where like people 488 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: want to like that this is the school of the community, 489 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: even though nobody can get in there. 490 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,959 Speaker 2: A big part of the appeal of Stanford is that 491 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 2: it's not for everybody, right, Like that exclusivity is the 492 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: same thing that keeps the nightclubs lights on. 493 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,719 Speaker 1: In USC is exclusive except to rich kids, and and 494 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: and academically and academically prowess to people. 495 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you look at the neighborhood USC's in versus 496 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: the neighborhood that Stanford's in, and there. 497 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: Are people around here got some rough parts. 498 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 2: Man, All right, well what I buy? We went off topic, 499 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 2: But I will say this. The NFL or the NCAA 500 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 2: GM thing is fascinating to me because you can have 501 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 2: so many different people with so many different skill sets 502 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 2: in this role. And and like you said, sometimes it's 503 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 2: just the right person for the right coach that matters. 504 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 2: But you have a guy like Jim Naggy go to Oklahoma, 505 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 2: and the difference that they're hoping he makes is instead 506 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 2: of inviting seniors to come to the Reces Bowl, he's 507 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 2: inviting transfer portal players to come to Oklahoma, the highest 508 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 2: level transfer portal that that he's able to identify vanity. 509 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: I don't even think that that's what you want from 510 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: Jim Naggy at Oklahoma. 511 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 2: And don't hire it. 512 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, oh no no no. I could not rap. 513 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 2: I could not contact Huh. He's got a lot of 514 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 2: media contact. 515 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, but that's not what I want. 516 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: If I'm Brent Vinables, what I want from Jim Naggy, 517 00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: which I think that this is a fantastic hire. Yes, 518 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: I do believe that there's transfer portal implications to it, 519 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: But the overarching thing is that what is Jim Naggy 520 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: good at? Think about that, What is he actually good at. 521 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: I think he's good at, well, sorry, great at. I 522 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: think he's great at two things. Number one, talent evaluation. Yeah, 523 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: so high school, college transferred portal evaluations. He should be 524 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: the best in the country and one of the best 525 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: in the country at it. Okay, but it's hard. 526 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 2: To jump into high school without having done it at all. 527 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: And that's the difference between him and Barton Simmons at Vanderbilt. 528 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 2: Barton Simmons came from what like two four seven or whatever. Yeah, 529 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 2: he was like one of their main guys and he 530 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 2: went to Vanderbilt. I think it's harder for somebody who's 531 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 2: looking at guys to say are you NFL ready to 532 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 2: then say are you college ready than it is for 533 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 2: somebody who understand and is projecting NFL talent from the 534 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 2: high school level. So I think there it will be 535 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 2: a little bit of an adjustment if he's trying to 536 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: focus on high school kids so much deeper pool to 537 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 2: swim it. 538 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think that you want him for his recruiting. 539 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry for his Yeah, for his recruiting evaluations, all 540 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: of that stuff. And then then the second thing is 541 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 1: what you mentioned what he did for the Senior Bowl 542 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: in terms of the marketing of the Senior Bowl, making 543 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl cool, making people, making it feel exclusive, 544 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: making it feel head and shoulders above the other all 545 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: Star games. I believe that that if he can translate 546 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: that energy into the Oklahoma brand by doing those two things, 547 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: it's a home run higher. 548 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I love I love the diversity of 549 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 2: all of it. You got a guy like Reggie Calhoun 550 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 2: junior at Colorado. That's a money man, yep, that's a 551 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 2: connections man like that's somebody who represents himself and who 552 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 2: he's bringing with him very well to corporations and partners. 553 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean, it's it's just gonna it's gonna 554 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 2: take all kinds. It's just as people make these hires. 555 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 2: There's people who are very strong on the administrative side 556 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 2: that that have these roles. There are people who have 557 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 2: media connects, there's people who are scouts, there's people who 558 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 2: are money people, and then there's some people who are 559 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 2: just hiring alumni to go out and do kind of 560 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: Who is the usc A D that was? Was it 561 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 2: Lynn Swan? 562 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, yes, yes, yes yes. 563 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 2: And there's people who are in that role as well. 564 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 2: I'm just fascinated by the whole thing. Last thing up today, 565 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 2: Last thing up today. Did you hear what Herbie Smart 566 00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 2: said about Johnny Manziel. 567 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 1: No, I heard something about that there that something happened. 568 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: I just don't know what. So so from so I 569 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 1: heard Johnny Manziel caught astray. 570 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:22,439 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So Kirby Smart was I don't know who 571 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 2: he was speaking to, but he wash he was at 572 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 2: a coaching clinic and he was saying, you know, four 573 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,720 Speaker 2: college quarterbacks popped up on a screen, Bryce Young, Joe Burrow, 574 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 2: Johnny Manzel, and Cam Newton, and he asked the crowd 575 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 2: what each quarterback had in common. Somebody yells out Heisman, 576 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,959 Speaker 2: and Kirby Smart says, good answer, and then someone else 577 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:56,760 Speaker 2: says champion, and Kirby Smart said champions. He ain't no champion, 578 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 2: champion of what, champion of fireball. 579 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: Champion of fireball brought us dastardly. That is, he is 580 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: out of pocket, Kirby. Kirby, you need to stop, bro, 581 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 1: you are out of pocket for that. That that's too far. 582 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: He okay, So he was well within his right to 583 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: be like champion, champion of what. That's where he should 584 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: have stopped. Champion period period. He was like champion of fireball. 585 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 2: Damn. I would say a couple of things about that. 586 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 2: Number one, Stephen A. Smith comes to mind. You didn't 587 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 2: have to say it. You're not wrong, but you have 588 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 2: to go there. 589 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not wrong. 590 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 2: The champion of fireball. 591 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, he was the champion of of of of 592 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 1: coke lines in the bathroom. Maybe maybe I don't know, 593 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 1: but actually no, you know you you know what, guys, 594 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: I didn't need to say that. I just did what 595 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: Kirby Smart did. I'm sorry, Johnny, I should have did that. 596 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: That that was too low, low hanging fruit. I'm better 597 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 1: than that. I'm better than that. You didn't deserve that. 598 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: You out here on your press tour, you're cleaning up, 599 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: doing all the things, hopefully right. So I want you 600 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: to win Johnny. So I'm strike that from the record, 601 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel has a pretty good sense of humor. 602 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 2: And I what would you do if you were him 603 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 2: and you heard that? Mm hmmm. 604 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: When Johnny Manziel was a school what Kirby was the 605 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 1: DC at Alabama? 606 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? I think so, yeah, I'll be like, well, 607 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 2: would you pose on Instagram with a with a bottle? 608 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, no? Held up because I'm in recovery. 609 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: So we don't play these games. 610 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 2: Recover, Johnny Manzel and recovery. Now, I believe so he 611 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 2: spent that whole documentary drinking beers saying he didn't need to. 612 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: Be really, yeah, you don't remember. 613 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 2: The the Johnny Manziel documentary. 614 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: You just I thought he said that. Maybe I made 615 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: that up in my own mind, but I thought that 616 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: he was, you know, clean. 617 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 2: Now, I just projected that on Tim. I don't think. 618 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 2: I think he's just living life in Scottsdale. But maybe 619 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 2: I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. Yeah, I could be wrong. 620 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 2: I could be wrong. I know he I mean he 621 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,479 Speaker 2: went to rehab like ten years ago. 622 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: I thought he talked to him about that and how 623 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: he was living with his parents and trying to you know, 624 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 1: that's just one day at a time. That sounds like 625 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: sober living, you know, to me, I could be true. 626 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 2: Okay, I found an article from Oh this is from 627 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:02,439 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, Johnny Manziel says he's going completely sober. Well 628 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 2: that didn't happen, No, I don't. I think he's just 629 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 2: living his life. Man. Well Kirby, Yeah, Kirby maybe needs to. 630 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, man, I just don't. Like, I'm just not 631 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: a fan of taking shots at people when they have, 632 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: you know, have had substance abuse issues, just because, I mean. 633 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 2: Especially because of some of the stuff that's happened in 634 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 2: his program recently, Like, yeah, you definitely want to take 635 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 2: the plank caddy rye before you go trying to get 636 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 2: the back out of somebody else's Yeah. 637 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I may post to Steve Smith meme though. 638 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: See it's different. 639 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 2: Right on. Man. Well, that's that's it. That's new. That's 640 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 2: news since you since you've been gone, not much more 641 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 2: people arguing about scheduling. That's a big one. Texas patting 642 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,439 Speaker 2: themselves on the back for having having tough non con 643 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 2: schedules even though they got San Jose State and stuff 644 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 2: like that. 645 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: I like reward, yeah, reward. Tough scheduling, and we'll talk 646 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: more about all of this stuff next week. You guys, 647 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: keep it locked. I'm George Reiser. He's Ralph Ampson College 648 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: Football Apostles interviews coming up soon. Peace out, catch you later.