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Speaker 1: You were tuned about Drive on Home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale Ali

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Speaker 1: here with Matt Williamson. This is the Drive on Steelers

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio. When we're going through the the top thirty

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Speaker 1: two teams list over the next three years as ranked

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Speaker 1: by ESPN UH to recap here as we go into

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Speaker 1: the top fifteen, the thirty two teams to this for

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Speaker 1: the teams below fifteen. To this point, we're at thirty two.

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Speaker 1: You had the Atlanta Falcons at thirty one, the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 1: How about that? Two teams from the same division at

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Speaker 1: good point thirty with the Chicago Bears at twenty nine,

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants at the Lions again, two teams

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Speaker 1: from the NFC or Central North. Now, I guess yes, Central.

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Speaker 1: So I mean they're not that they're saying that the

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Speaker 1: bottom four four Actually you throw the Giants into the

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Speaker 1: worst five teams over the next three years are all

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Speaker 1: gonna be in the NFC. Um, you got the Houston

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Speaker 1: again two teams from the same division. Yeah, the Washington

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Speaker 1: Football team at twenty five. So two of the top

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Speaker 1: at twenty one in New York Jets, again two teams

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Speaker 1: at nineteen the Minnesota Vikings, so that they think that

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Speaker 1: and that brings us the number fifteen and number fifteen

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Speaker 1: moving forward over the next three years, according to ESPN,

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Speaker 1: are the Philadelphia Eagles. The overall roster ranks tenth, quarterbacking,

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Speaker 1: coaching nineteen, drafting seventh, front office fifth. So as you

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Speaker 1: were saying that I hadn't thought of this from a

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Speaker 1: it dawned on me first of all, zero teams have

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Speaker 1: And now that the Eagles are listed, that's the first

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Speaker 1: one off the board. They're all done, you know, and

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Speaker 1: they're all the at best. What the is that rough

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Speaker 1: on Jalen Hurts and put them at quarterbacking? I think

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Speaker 1: this last segment. They have future draft capital that they

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Speaker 1: still think he's gonna be in the league. I mean,

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Speaker 1: still young too. Like, I don't think they take into

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Speaker 1: account again, the old guys, you gotta be hard on,

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Speaker 1: Like we haven't Rodger mentioned Rogers and Brady and some

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Speaker 1: Like I would be harsher on the old dudes, even

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Speaker 1: Ryan and Tom Brady, you're not going to be in

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Speaker 1: that that's that's all part of this. Uh. At fourteen,

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Speaker 1: they have to say here in fields Why they're here?

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Speaker 1: This is from field y eights. When you have Mike

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Speaker 1: Tomlin as your head coach, you're always going to receive

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Speaker 1: retirements took place this offseason for Pittsburgh. The impact how

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Speaker 1: this team fair is going forward. Long time standout GM,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert in quarter back, Ben Roethlisberger be at Mitch

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Speaker 1: the next three seasons. But at least they have options

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Speaker 1: though he didn't maximize what he was working for with

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Speaker 1: from a personnel perspective, the Steelers need to get that

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Speaker 1: gonna say I'm sold that MC Canada is going to

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Speaker 1: post Been era, right right, not for were the final

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Speaker 1: for the better? This is from Jeremy Fowler. This offensive

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Speaker 1: line still needs work. The Steelers addressed at this offseason

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Speaker 1: the big Ben led Steelers were great last were last

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Speaker 1: great with high draft picks David DeCastro, Marquise Bouncy, and

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Speaker 1: like it was. I don't think it would surprise us though,

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Speaker 1: if the Steelers number one draft pick next year was

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Speaker 1: because they're because they're ridiculously young on offense, right exactly,

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Speaker 1: would be almost every member of the offense should be

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Speaker 1: getting better, not worse. Right, that's the key I think

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Speaker 1: You're you're looking for that offense at the upside potential

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Speaker 1: be getting better. They're gonna be getting worse or a

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Speaker 1: mismash of age as most teams do. Where my left

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Speaker 1: You know, this whole group should grow together, including you know,

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Speaker 1: guys all grew together. Well, that's what this offense is

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Speaker 1: a new quarterback won't restrict the offense to an ultra quick,

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Speaker 1: ultra short passing game. I agree with all that, and

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Speaker 1: his hands quicker, right right, That's gonna be his biggest

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Speaker 1: could apply to Tomlin too. But do we know who

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Speaker 1: I mean Belichick seventy Now, people don't say he's older

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Speaker 1: be Patricia or Judge who already failed somewhere both? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: both of those already you know, flamed out somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know that that's a good necessarily, you

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Speaker 1: and you know how ESPN put out. We went overall them,

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Speaker 1: mean it's a new head coach. We've already had that discussion. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would imagine Wilson is still quite functional three years

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Speaker 1: this is is a tie for ten, so there's no

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Speaker 1: I don't. I can't go that high with you. I

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Speaker 1: just can't. If you're gonna kill fields, you can't give

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Speaker 1: Lance a much better one. No, I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what you're basing that off of. And if you're

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Speaker 1: telling me, well, Jimmy Garoppolo is still on the roster, which,

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Speaker 1: not going to be the factor three years a now.

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Speaker 1: No coaching, possibly somebody else right coaching they ranked fifth, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's gotta be high on coaching. Front office draft stuff,

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Speaker 1: drafting nineteen, Front office six s. Calcany has been there

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Speaker 1: think he's a good coach. I don't know that he's

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Speaker 1: the first round. Yeah. I mean they hit on Humphrey

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Speaker 1: and Smith last year, and I like their draft this

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Speaker 1: this year, but I don't think it was special. Will

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Speaker 1: Tray Smith be playing in three years? Yeah? Right, there was.

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Speaker 1: There was a reason why he went in the sixth round.

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Speaker 1: He had all kinds of medical issues and that'll come

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Speaker 1: home to roost unfortunately for at some point. Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know who I put one in drafting.

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Speaker 1: If if it's not them, then there's that question of

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Speaker 1: you know, should it be right? I yeah, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: But that's somebody had to be one, I guess. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: And that leaves as the number one team the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills moving forward number one and overall roster number two

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Speaker 1: at quarterback coaching seventh, drafting sixth, front office number one.

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Speaker 1: Pretty strong. Um. A couple of Bills notes is step

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Speaker 1: On gives for example, his contract balloons next year. I

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Speaker 1: think like eight million. Don't quote me on the number,

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Speaker 1: but it's you know, they're their windows is going to

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Speaker 1: close a lot quicker than people think, which is sort

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Speaker 1: of like with the Chiefs just went through and you

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Speaker 1: gotta trade Tyree Kill or did at some point you

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Speaker 1: gotta start paying the quarterback. You know that's yeah, you

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Speaker 1: take a step back and hopefully you're still highly competitive

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Speaker 1: with a good quarterback. Steelers went through that during different

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Speaker 1: stints of Ben's career. But I just so happened to

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Speaker 1: win or to read the Bills Football Outsiders chapter last night,

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Speaker 1: and I found it kind of funny because it's sort

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Speaker 1: of like the Chiefs, where I think the Bills the

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Speaker 1: best see in the league and they're both a long haul,

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Speaker 1: but they made three off season no nos according to

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Speaker 1: Football Outsiders. One, they paid a well over thirty year

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Speaker 1: old massive money von Miller. Too. They traded up in

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Speaker 1: the first round for a non quarterback. Three, they drafted

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Speaker 1: a gadgety receiving back very high. And Football Ciders laid

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Speaker 1: it out like this, They're like, hey, I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: trading up for a corner it was bad by the Bills,

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Speaker 1: or signing von Miller was bad, or drafting Cook in

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Speaker 1: the second round was bad. But we at football siders

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Speaker 1: have been doing this a very long time, and when

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Speaker 1: teams do those things in the off season, they usually

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Speaker 1: go worse than better. Okay, you know, I mean there's

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Speaker 1: let's learn from it. There there there short term fixes,

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Speaker 1: not long term moves. And their front office I think

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Speaker 1: should be near one or at one because they've really

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Speaker 1: built built this house very very nicely, brick by brick,

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Speaker 1: you know, put in, do the right things, take the

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Speaker 1: time to make the house structurally nice and exactly how

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Speaker 1: you like it. But this past offseason they spray they

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Speaker 1: spray painted the hell out of them, you know, like

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Speaker 1: they kind of went outside their comfort zone in terms

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Speaker 1: of team building and got aggressive, you know, and it

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Speaker 1: might work, might not, They might not. There's a risk

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Speaker 1: and ball, you know, I mean, right, you know, we

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Speaker 1: saw the Steelers make some moves like this that you know,

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Speaker 1: they were outside the box, aggressive moves to try to

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Speaker 1: get you know, to try to extend the Roethlisberger era

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Speaker 1: a little bit. You trade up for Devon Bush, you

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Speaker 1: trade a future first round pick from make of Fitzpatrick,

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Speaker 1: trying to trying to you know, get what you need

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Speaker 1: just at the end to extend it a little bit

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Speaker 1: more to try to get one more Super Bowl run.

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Speaker 1: If the ram Zone do that, they don't win the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl last year. Right, Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Tampa has been all into for a couple of years,

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Speaker 1: you know, and they want a Super Bowl just recently. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just saying that there's ramifications for pushing all your chips

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Speaker 1: in the middle. Yeah. Um. So Steelers come in pretty

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Speaker 1: well and that I think they they could have gotten

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Speaker 1: a little bit more love, I think in the front

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Speaker 1: office part of the equation. Yes, um, because there's not

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Speaker 1: much change here. With all respect to Kevin this the

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Speaker 1: ships still sail in the same way, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I'll do like Kevin Colber is still there. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, he didn't vanish, he didn't he didn't

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Speaker 1: get right. So I don't know how you put their

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Speaker 1: front office seventeen. It's gonna be basically the same people

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Speaker 1: more or less making the decisions, including Tomlin and including

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Speaker 1: the Rooney you know, right. So I had a problem

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Speaker 1: with that, I'll be honest though, before I looked at

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Speaker 1: the list, I thought that the Steelers would be really

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Speaker 1: low because I think national perception is, oh, they don't

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Speaker 1: have a quarterback. You know, like I was pleasantly surprised

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Speaker 1: with where they landed. I thought they would be twenty

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Speaker 1: or so. Yeah. I wrote about that, uh this week,

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Speaker 1: and people ask me, you know, I have heard of

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Speaker 1: the hundred times, how can the Steelers be be better

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Speaker 1: this year than they were last year? And like, just

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Speaker 1: think back to the twenty nineteen season. Mm hm, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be better at quarterbacks than they were at twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll be better at quarterback than they were

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Speaker 1: in one. I think they're gonna be better if you

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Speaker 1: look back at again that that twenty I keep womenack

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Speaker 1: to that season because they went eight and eight. They

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Speaker 1: didn't have Ben Roethlisberger. We have we have a reference

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Speaker 1: point there of not them not having Ben Roethlisberger, and

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Speaker 1: they went eight and eight. They went eight actually went

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Speaker 1: eight and five without Roethlisberger, I'm sorry, eight and six

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Speaker 1: without Roethlisberger, and they exceeded the results, succeeded their talents, right, Um,

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Speaker 1: if you look at the other offensive pieces that you know,

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Speaker 1: I think the receiving group is better than it was

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Speaker 1: in Remember they had just lost Antonio Brown. That on

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Speaker 1: Jante Johnson was a rookie. James Washington was your was

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Speaker 1: your leading receiver that year in terms of total yards.

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Speaker 1: I think they're much better off than that right now.

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Speaker 1: They're better at running back. Nagia Harris is far superior,

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Speaker 1: yes to James Conner, who was banged up consistently that year.

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Speaker 1: The two thousand nineteen O line was probably better, don't

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Speaker 1: you think or do you think that was when they

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Speaker 1: were starting to show they were they were starting to

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Speaker 1: slip a little bit. Yeah, but they that was large again,

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Speaker 1: a large part because they had, you know, everybody knew

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Speaker 1: what the game plan was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: you just okay, we're gonna stack the line of scrimmaging,

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Speaker 1: force the quarterback to thrill. I'm gonna make things so yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean the average three point seven yards of carry

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Speaker 1: that year better. They're better at tight end than they

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Speaker 1: were that year. Yes, And so then you have to

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Speaker 1: start looking at the defense. Can the defense be better? Well,

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Speaker 1: you got you got miles pretty good defense? Is there?

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Speaker 1: Pretty good defense? But now you have Myles Jack replacing

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Speaker 1: Mark Barron and uh Vince Williams. It won the linebacker spots.

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Speaker 1: That's an upgrade. It was Morgan Burnett involved than that too. No,

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Speaker 1: he was the year before that was they they had

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Speaker 1: moved on the Mark Baron and Vince Williams. Those two

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Speaker 1: split time next to rookie Devon Bush. You didn't have

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Speaker 1: to it for the last ten games of that season. Now,

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Speaker 1: I thought in the first six games of that season,

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Speaker 1: I thought he was there maybe their best defensive player.

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Speaker 1: I thought he's having a great sence when he was shining. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but then he got hurt against the Chargers, so then

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Speaker 1: you didn't have him the last ten games of the season. Well,

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Speaker 1: now you've you've got better depth in your defensive line.

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Speaker 1: So I think they have a chance to be better

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Speaker 1: than they were in twenty nineteen. I expect that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I expect them. I think they might be better

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Speaker 1: than last year. I think there's a certainly that possibility.

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Speaker 1: So if we got position group by position group, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think they're better than last year. Well, that might

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Speaker 1: be something we do on Friday, a little teaser for

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Speaker 1: as we start getting into ramping up for training camp here.

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Speaker 1: But that's going to do it for today's show. So

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Speaker 1: for my partner Matt Williamson, I am Dale Lally. We

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Speaker 1: thank you for listening. To this edition of The Drive

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio.