Speaker 1: Welcome in What's Driving the Great Episode three seventy five.
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Speaker 1: little delayed today because there have been a lot of
Speaker 1: forces that have been trying to tell me I maybe
Speaker 1: shouldn't do this show today, but it feels like it'd
Speaker 1: be a cop out. Force one demons. Today's actually the
Speaker 1: rare October day off from work because there's no TV
Speaker 1: show today, so I could have And Tuesdays, which is today,
Speaker 1: are the day of the really big card game in
Speaker 1: Philly that I sometimes in the summer like to go
Speaker 1: play in but can never during the football regular season.
Speaker 1: So that was reason one that I could have been
Speaker 1: like not doing the show. Reason two, I got a
Speaker 1: phone call yesterday from Spectrum saying they're redoing the internet
Speaker 1: on this block and there's gonna be like an eight
Speaker 1: hour period where the TV and internet and everything doesn't work.
Speaker 1: And I put in a very pleading request. Granted this
Speaker 1: was before the Chiefs lost if they could somehow delay
Speaker 1: that start of work a bit. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they listen to me or not, but we're on the
Speaker 1: internet right now, so it's fine. Reason three, the reason
Speaker 1: we are late to the show is because for the
Speaker 1: last twenty minutes my camera was just showing an old
Speaker 1: still image not from the pod, and it was kind
Speaker 1: of creepy because it was showing an image of when
Speaker 1: I wasn't in the room, when the lights weren't on,
Speaker 1: which one would make you think, how did the camera
Speaker 1: even capture that image if the computer was closed and
Speaker 1: the camera's supposed to be off. We troubleshot that for
Speaker 1: twenty minutes, poor Paul was about to drive over here.
Speaker 1: We were figuring out if we could do an audio
Speaker 1: only thing, and then the solution was unplug it and
Speaker 1: plug it back in. So despite all of that, I'm here.
Speaker 1: Your mom can attest to this. I've been for the
Speaker 1: last ten hours a little restless that loss yesterday for
Speaker 1: reasons I will explain hit differently than any non playoff
Speaker 1: Chiefs loss in recent memory. And it also feels a
Speaker 1: little I'll be honest, I've lived a blessed life, so
Speaker 1: I can't really complain too much, but it felt a
Speaker 1: little unfair that I am not able to fully bask
Speaker 1: in the glory of the greatest day Trevor has had
Speaker 1: in three years, the greatest day he's had in the
Speaker 1: NFL since you were sitting next to me on the couch,
Speaker 1: and he was down twenty seven points to Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: and the Chargers and came back, and certainly the best
Speaker 1: moment he's had since he got injured on Monday Night
Speaker 1: Football when his team was playing for the one seed.
Speaker 1: I couldn't even enjoy that, and so we will explain that.
Speaker 1: We will get into all of that. I am for
Speaker 1: reasons I don't again, when I agreed to do these things,
Speaker 1: I anticipated the Chiefs were going to win the game.
Speaker 1: But I am doing Colin's show, my regular Tuesday spot
Speaker 1: from here now. I'll be honest. If Spectrum cuts out
Speaker 1: the Internet sometime between when this show ends and colin
Speaker 1: Shows begins, it's not that I do about that. That
Speaker 1: is not playing that I will take issue with it.
Speaker 1: But we must forge ahn and first we gotta go
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Speaker 1: I referenced demanse I, I didn't really sleep last night
Speaker 1: and then got up this morning, took your sister to school,
Speaker 1: picked your mom up from the gym. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I said ten words to either one of them.
Speaker 1: I then just laid on the couch, which I never
Speaker 1: do in the mornings, and tried to like take a nap.
Speaker 1: That didn't work, you know, how I can tell your
Speaker 1: mom knows I'm in a teetering emotional place. Well, here's
Speaker 1: here's how I know that she knows and that she's empathetic,
Speaker 1: because there were she's doing like a whole giant house
Speaker 1: cleaning thing prior to I knew it her birthday. I
Speaker 1: knew it, well, no hold on there. Within the ninety
Speaker 1: seconds when I came downstairs, there were three things I
Speaker 1: saw her do that she had asked me to do previously,
Speaker 1: and she wasn't even mad at me. Yep, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: she legit feels bad for me right now. She's like
Speaker 1: she she is really showing a real amount of empathy
Speaker 1: because I was supposed to put those coffee cups away.
Speaker 1: I was supposed to throw that backpack away, and she's
Speaker 1: doing all of it, and she's doing with a smile
Speaker 1: on her face, which means she has correctly clocked that
Speaker 1: I'm not doing great. Hopefully this will be my Catharsis.
Speaker 1: Let's get to Monday night football.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Audrie. So we saw what Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 2: did to the Chiefs yesterday. It was also his twenty
Speaker 2: sixth birthday, and he walked out of there with a dub.
Speaker 2: What do you want to talk about first, your Prince's
Speaker 2: success or your Chiefs downfall in this game.
Speaker 1: Okay, as much as I'd like to start with Trevor,
Speaker 1: we have to start with the Chiefs. And here's the reason.
Speaker 1: That game is so so much more upsetting than the
Speaker 1: Charger game or the Eagle game, and so much more
Speaker 1: upsetting than any recent memory regular season loss. One thing
Speaker 1: about the Chiefs being the Chiefs is they simply do
Speaker 1: not lose games like that. Now, they get out played.
Speaker 1: Sometimes the offense we've seen over the last couple of
Speaker 1: years get stuck in the mud. They you know, there
Speaker 1: are ways that they can lose a game, and other
Speaker 1: people panic or you know, talk about in what bad
Speaker 1: shape the team is in, and I do not because
Speaker 1: of the full confidence that by the end of the
Speaker 1: year Patrick will have figured stuff out, or the team
Speaker 1: will get healthier or whatever it is. Losing a game
Speaker 1: like that last night, they don't blow two touchdown leads.
Speaker 1: Every other team in the league, mate, they don't. They
Speaker 1: did last night countless countless special teams mistakes, the multiple
Speaker 1: the same player Jack Cochrane, who held on a big
Speaker 1: kick return earlier in the game does the only thing
Speaker 1: he can't do on the final kickoff of the game,
Speaker 1: which is hold again, Because in that moment, I thought,
Speaker 1: while I didn't like what had happened, twenty three seconds,
Speaker 1: three timeouts, the Chief's gonna have the ball around the
Speaker 1: twenty five thirty yard line. I fully trusted that we
Speaker 1: were at least going to get a kick to tie
Speaker 1: the game. But that hold has the double whammy of
Speaker 1: they returned it, so you burned six of the twenty
Speaker 1: three seconds and you started on the fifteen. Also with
Speaker 1: the special teams, Bucker kicking it out of bounds when
Speaker 1: he has been shaky buck. We are now five for
Speaker 1: five in games this year where Bucker makes a mistake
Speaker 1: either missus an extra point, miss it, yes, missus an
Speaker 1: extra point, misses a kick, or kicks it out of bounds.
Speaker 1: And then and I'm not this oddly is the part
Speaker 1: of the game that was least bothersome to me. But
Speaker 1: it was the most damaging was you know, Patrick made
Speaker 1: a mistake he simply doesn't make, which is that ninety
Speaker 1: nine yard pick six that flipped the entire game. Now
Speaker 1: that you can fairly say that cost them the game,
Speaker 1: I mean that was a basically a true fourteen point swing.
Speaker 1: But I know this might sound odd to the audience.
Speaker 1: That is the least of my concerns. The committing that
Speaker 1: many penalties that consistently. And now, what does make me
Speaker 1: feel like the Chiefs are very close to being the
Speaker 1: Chiefs again, is there is a direct correlation to how
Speaker 1: scary the Chiefs are to the rest of the world
Speaker 1: and how quickly and loudly we get the idiotic conspiracy
Speaker 1: theories once again, when yes, they missed a DPI on
Speaker 1: an interception, but this game would have been well, I
Speaker 1: don't know that it was a TV. I don't know
Speaker 1: that it was worse than when the Jags are down
Speaker 1: fourteen to nothing and it's third and fifteen and there
Speaker 1: is a phantom DPI that kept them in the game,
Speaker 1: Like calls get missed in both directions. The people got
Speaker 1: mad because Patrick correctly pointed out to the ref we
Speaker 1: get one yard on the rub route on Kelsey's touchdown,
Speaker 1: and I don't know what the hell Russell Yurke was
Speaker 1: looking at. He says, the play was snapped at the two,
Speaker 1: juju is setting the pick at the one. That is
Speaker 1: the definition. You literally had the little hashmark showing you
Speaker 1: it was a yard and so I unders listen, they missed.
Speaker 1: The ref's missed a really bad call, there's no question
Speaker 1: about it. And the Chiefs got a pick out of it.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs were penalized I think ten times more or
Speaker 1: nine times more than Jacksonville. That was not a oh.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs got all the calls. But also those weren't
Speaker 1: except for the DPI on third and fifteen. Those weren't
Speaker 1: bad calls against the Chiefs. They were making mistakes. And
Speaker 1: here's the other piece of it, and this is what
Speaker 1: is so uh And Patrick kind of said it without
Speaker 1: saying it when he said we've already lost too many games.
Speaker 1: They they had a nightmare, nightmare opening two weeks of
Speaker 1: the season, and they had the opportunity to make it
Speaker 1: all back by week five, go from zero and two
Speaker 1: to Tide for first in the division, one game out
Speaker 1: of first place in the entire conference and two and
Speaker 1: you guys, notice I didn't have Kansas City minus three
Speaker 1: and a half in knicks picks. I actually think Jacksonville
Speaker 1: is better than people gave him credit for it. And
Speaker 1: I was saying all week Jacksonville was three and one
Speaker 1: despite Trevor and that if Trevor played well, they're a
Speaker 1: very dangerous team. And we'll get to Trevor later, because
Speaker 1: that was just a perfect Trevor Lawrence game. Some horrible mistakes,
Speaker 1: some great throws, used his legs, you know, better than
Speaker 1: he usually does, even though he's great with that. The
Speaker 1: So I didn't It's not that I think losing to
Speaker 1: the Jags.
Speaker 2: It's just that was a game that I feel like
Speaker 2: they needed. They really wanted that game and they didn't
Speaker 2: get it. And it was also like it was the
Speaker 2: Jaguars at the same time, like's not.
Speaker 1: They needed it, Demons, they wanted it and they had
Speaker 1: it great like the While the Chiefs don't blow teams
Speaker 1: out the way the other excellent teams in football do
Speaker 1: over the last few years, they just simply never beat themselves,
Speaker 1: and yesterday they beat themselves. Yesterday is the first game
Speaker 1: in four years the Chiefs have won the turnover battle
Speaker 1: and lost the game. There have only been three games
Speaker 1: in the last four years where they have won or
Speaker 1: tied the turnover battle and lost the game Week one
Speaker 1: against Detroit couple of years ago, the Pick six Week
Speaker 1: one against the Chargers this year, and neither team turned
Speaker 1: it over, and then this week with a pick six,
Speaker 1: and so all of that just it. It's just a
Speaker 1: horrible loss. Let me add another thing before I get
Speaker 1: to the other side of it. My biggest concern with
Speaker 1: Kansas City after week one, when every there have been
Speaker 1: let me rephrase it. There have been two concerns that
Speaker 1: I have had about the Chiefs basically from week one
Speaker 1: on that while everyone else was focused on Mahomes in
Speaker 1: the passing game, I was simply not worried. One was
Speaker 1: the lack of any type of burst or explosion in
Speaker 1: the running game. Now I thought that was Pacheco and Hunts,
Speaker 1: both of them, you know, one of their better If not,
Speaker 1: they're each of their best games of the year. My
Speaker 1: hair is a mess. I apologize, but it still feels
Speaker 1: like that's a spot they need to upgrade. And Patrick
Speaker 1: leading the team in rushing is is unacceptable and makes
Speaker 1: me nervous. But the other thing that was greatly concerning
Speaker 1: to me about week one was their total inability to
Speaker 1: generate a pass rush without sending a blitz. And I
Speaker 1: felt like you saw that again last night. So those
Speaker 1: the running back position I think can be of all
Speaker 1: the weaknesses you can have. That to me is the
Speaker 1: simplest to attempt to remedy, because they should be able
Speaker 1: to relatively cheaply trade for and upgrade at running back.
Speaker 1: The pass rush just has to get better. And Chris
Speaker 1: obviously has a brutal film on the play. When Trevor
Speaker 1: fell down, Now, I don't actually think him standing there
Speaker 1: or if he would have been going one hundred miles
Speaker 1: an hour, it would have changed the impact of the play.
Speaker 1: But that is brutal, brutal tape.
Speaker 2: I think he could have absolutely made a play on it.
Speaker 2: He could have stopped him from scoring touchdown. You think so,
Speaker 2: I think I feel like he's watching the action from there.
Speaker 2: If he starts running off to the right, might be
Speaker 2: able to intercept Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: Oh, I right, I agree that right there he starts
Speaker 1: running off to the right. My point is, by the
Speaker 1: been going full bore. If he would have been going
Speaker 1: full bore, he wouldn't have he wouldn't have been lying
Speaker 1: to the right. He would have gone upfield and then
Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter. I want to make this clear.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter that he wouldn't have made the I
Speaker 1: don't think he would have made the play. What matters
Speaker 1: is how the hell are you doing that in that spot?
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, like, what is the
Speaker 1: uh he played it almost as if the Chiefs coaching
Speaker 1: point there was let them score, so we get the
Speaker 1: ball back with a chance to tie it. But no
Speaker 1: one else on the defense was you know, had that
Speaker 1: was feeling that way and so all of those things
Speaker 1: Demon's are uh truly greatly real like issues and why
Speaker 1: this has been so such a troubling twelve hours now
Speaker 1: the flip side, Patrick looks great, and he looks great.
Speaker 1: And the offenses, I mean they would they have five
Speaker 1: hundred yards of offense yesterday almost like now, again that's
Speaker 1: not the Andy said it, and he's right. The goal
Speaker 1: of the game is not to put up a ton
Speaker 1: of yards, put up points. And our red zone issues
Speaker 1: that you know, he didn't say this, I'll say Patrick's
Speaker 1: bad mistake. The penalties, those things are how you lose
Speaker 1: football games. But Kansas City, particularly when Rashi gets back,
Speaker 1: I think, is going to be back to being a
Speaker 1: very explosive offense again. So that part is great, but
Speaker 1: two and three is none and you just you had
Speaker 1: the opportunity, had you taken care of going into last
Speaker 1: night's game, you were like, there were there's the four
Speaker 1: and one Bills who you play later this year, the
Speaker 1: four and one Colts who you play later this year,
Speaker 1: and the Jags were sitting there with one loss and
Speaker 1: you were playing them that night. And so it also
Speaker 1: puts a lot of pressure on next week. And next
Speaker 1: week is the Detroit Lions, who post Week one have
Speaker 1: looked like the best team in the league. By the way,
Speaker 1: Lebron just posted, I guess did Hennessy front run him
Speaker 1: on this? That's so funny? Real quick?
Speaker 2: Is that the announcement?
Speaker 1: Or hold on, I'm just gonna let you guys hear it.
Speaker 1: I hope, hold on, let me see if I can
Speaker 1: do this? Hold on here it is no I got
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do it like this, You'll do it
Speaker 1: old school.
Speaker 2: Well, everyone's on pens and needles across the country.
Speaker 1: Are you ready to go, Lebron? Where's the powder left
Speaker 1: at home? Lebron fans want to know where you're taking
Speaker 1: your talent this year. What's your decision in this fall?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: This is tough.
Speaker 2: In this fall, I'm gonna be taking my talents to
Speaker 2: nnescvk v.
Speaker 1: P and this was the conclusion you woke up with
Speaker 1: this morning. That was a conclusion I woke up with
Speaker 1: this morning.
Speaker 2: Why I feel like it's gonna give me the best
Speaker 2: opportunity to win more at hosting.
Speaker 1: And not only that, when that signature and hotails, we
Speaker 1: didn't have a good time, we.
Speaker 2: At making memories, we didn't making it look easy, win
Speaker 2: at leaving people wanting more.
Speaker 1: Bron appreciate it. My decision. Okay, so real quick, quick
Speaker 1: sidebar of course, like now listen, I would have been wrong.
Speaker 1: I thought I had something to do with Amazon Prime
Speaker 1: Day because he worked with Amazon. But Danny yesterday when
Speaker 1: Lebron sent that tweet, he came, He's like, you saw
Speaker 1: Lebron's thing. I'm like yeah, And he asked, he said,
Speaker 1: do you think it's anything? I was like, I would
Speaker 1: bet anything. It's an AD And he asked me why,
Speaker 1: and he thought my answer was kind of ridiculous. But
Speaker 1: it's why I knew it was an AD. I said,
Speaker 1: because it's at noon. It's what he said it was
Speaker 1: going to be. And he's like, that's the reason, and.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, it's like more of like a
Speaker 2: night thing.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's prime time He's like, if Lebron is going
Speaker 1: to announce his retirement, it's not going to be noon
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday. I'm gonna tell you right now. It's
Speaker 1: just so I there there was real like questions I
Speaker 1: got tech from people or whatever about what we like
Speaker 1: this show or the TV show or whatever, what are
Speaker 1: what we want to do? And I don't want to
Speaker 1: say I ignored them, but I in my head, I
Speaker 1: ignored them. I'm like, guys, I promised, this is not
Speaker 1: like Intel. I didn't talk to I didn't. I was
Speaker 1: so non plused by this, Like I obviously am real
Speaker 1: close with some of Lebron's closest people. Maverick's a dear friend.
Speaker 1: I see Rich a few times a year. You know,
Speaker 1: Rich works with my agent. I didn't even send any
Speaker 1: of them a text like with a question mark like
Speaker 1: the it was so.
Speaker 2: To me.
Speaker 1: To me, it was just like if if he had
Speaker 1: sent the exact same tweet and it said Monday, seven pm,
Speaker 1: my heart would have skip to beat.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh man, run change it up a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like maybe like there might be uh, there might
Speaker 1: be something here, but Tuesday at noon, the guy is
Speaker 1: not announcing his retirement Tuesday at noon. Now he was
Speaker 1: if you didn't get the and I didn't show you
Speaker 1: the he's wearing the same shirt he wore to the
Speaker 1: original decision, like kind of right, and the the script
Speaker 1: is the questions he was asked, like the no powder
Speaker 1: that it's all the exact same beats of the original decision.
Speaker 1: But yes, listen shout. Also, by the way, I don't
Speaker 1: know what Hennessy you know, paid Bron, but I do
Speaker 1: know that they are now going to get a lot
Speaker 1: of free media out of it by simply Lebron sending
Speaker 1: one tweet like so, I don't know what his tweets
Speaker 1: are worth, but that you know, I would consider that
Speaker 1: likely money well spent. All right, back to the discussion
Speaker 1: we were having. What were we talking about? Oh, the
Speaker 1: Lions game now is massive. Oh that's why I saw
Speaker 1: it because I was going to hard rock bet to
Speaker 1: see going into last night And here's a fun one.
Speaker 1: Demon's wait. No, going into last night, it was Casey
Speaker 1: minus a point and a half. Now, typically, oddly, when
Speaker 1: a good team loses, if they don't suffer real injury,
Speaker 1: they become bigger favorites by a tiny bit. The next week,
Speaker 1: I don't anticipate that's what will happen here. So what, oh,
Speaker 1: what do you think? Do you think the line moved
Speaker 1: or stayed the same, And if it moved in what direction?
Speaker 2: You said yesterday it was minus one and a.
Speaker 1: Half, Kansas City favored by a point and a.
Speaker 2: Half a half. Yeah, I think it probably what is
Speaker 2: it minus two now minus two?
Speaker 1: It's it stayed, it stayed the same. I thought there
Speaker 1: was a chance it would have gone the other way,
Speaker 1: but I think the reason it didn't was because the
Speaker 1: Chiefs offense did look really good and that Jack's defense
Speaker 1: is legit. It's just so frustrating. And this is all
Speaker 1: I said going into it was if they don't turn
Speaker 1: the ball over, they can't lose, and they may listen,
Speaker 1: it was the worst type of turnover you can make.
Speaker 2: With that defense being how good it is, like Jacksonville's
Speaker 2: defense is, it's legit. They even came in they got
Speaker 2: to pick six against Patrick Malmes. Like with the Travis
Speaker 2: Hunter thinks, I think it's so unfortunate that he wants
Speaker 2: to play on both sides of the ball, because I
Speaker 2: think he would make the defense that much more dominant,
Speaker 2: or if he wanted to be one hundred percent offense,
Speaker 2: he would just give Trevor Lawrence even that better of
Speaker 2: a hand. But I think because it doesn't seem like
Speaker 2: he's being super effective on either side, he's that guess
Speaker 2: he's maxed out as lung right now.
Speaker 1: No, right now, it's kind of the worst of both worlds,
Speaker 1: right listen. I know he made one really big play
Speaker 1: in this game. Yeah, but the Jags aren't at a
Speaker 1: shortage of weapons, and right now, the the the they trade,
Speaker 1: the only way you can justify trading what they traded
Speaker 1: for a non quarterback is because you thought you were
Speaker 1: getting two players. But right now he's having less of
Speaker 1: an impact than all the guys drafted around him who
Speaker 1: are just one way players. And so that's the really
Speaker 1: disappointing part if you're Jacksonville, Like, let me go to
Speaker 1: real quick. Because Mason Graham, who was the fifth pick,
Speaker 1: who was part of essentially the Travis Hunter trade, has
Speaker 1: been great. Abdua Carter is making a real impact. Will
Speaker 1: Campbell's the everyday left tackle. Mason Graham has been excellent. Genty,
Speaker 1: I know that there have been some questions about gent
Speaker 1: Genty's great, He's just the how often is he getting
Speaker 1: the ball and how often are they blocking for him?
Speaker 1: But you've seen more from him already than you've seen
Speaker 1: Travis Mimbo has been excellent at tackle for the Jets,
Speaker 1: even though they've been terrible, and Teed McMillan has made
Speaker 1: a bigger impact the wide receiver for Carolina. For Carolina,
Speaker 1: no Tampa Bay receivers a Buka, who's been unbelievable. But
Speaker 1: he was you know, he was a mid first round pick.
Speaker 1: He was nineteen and so yeah, I do think that
Speaker 1: they they haven't yet figured out how to use Travis.
Speaker 1: Now listen on the Prince. This is why he's such
Speaker 1: a tough player to quit, because he can make that
Speaker 1: throw to Brian Thomas Junior down the sideline, and he
Speaker 1: is he at Clemson, he ran a lot and he
Speaker 1: is big and strong and all those things and fast.
Speaker 1: He also loves that leap over the goal line QB sneak.
Speaker 1: That's not the first time it's been knocked out of
Speaker 1: his hands. He also will, as Aikman pointed out, miss
Speaker 1: some layups and he's it's fair is fair. He should
Speaker 1: be better at this point than he is. But he
Speaker 1: is now positioning himself where he is going to have
Speaker 1: a real opportunity to have, you know, another postseason and
Speaker 1: the best moment of his career came in the postseason.
Speaker 1: And so now like it's starting to take shape a
Speaker 1: little bit right it feels to me demanse like like
Speaker 1: the playoff teams we can say with confidence are Buffalo, Indie, Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: the four and one teams, like we just got to
Speaker 1: give them credit. One team out of the AFC North.
Speaker 1: I can't write off Baltimore yet, but that's the only
Speaker 1: way Baltimore does it is if Pittsburgh. The reason I'm
Speaker 1: not saying two teams out of the North is if
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh just continues winning, Baltimore's cooked Like Baltimore, Baltimore's path
Speaker 1: is going to be that nine wins can win you
Speaker 1: the division. So there's four and then I obviously believe
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are going to be in the I can't.
Speaker 1: It would be unfair for me to say Pencil that
Speaker 1: she like to put the Chiefs in pen because they're
Speaker 1: two and three. So if we have Buffalo, Indy, Jacksonville
Speaker 1: and an AFC North team in then it would be
Speaker 1: Deman's three spots, four Chiefs, Broncos Chargers, Patriots. Three spots
Speaker 1: for those four teams, and right now the team that
Speaker 1: probably of those four teams this moment, which team do
Speaker 1: you think is most anxious? Because to me, I think
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear out of Chiefs, Chargers, Broncos, Patriots, if.
Speaker 2: One of them is gonna go, Chargers probably yeah, the
Speaker 2: most anxious it's the Chargers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, it's definitely.
Speaker 2: The Jay and Daniels is more respectable, but coming off injury.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Jake and only scoring ten points and we'll
Speaker 1: get to that game later. Wow. The producers don't always
Speaker 1: nail it on this show. They always try with their humor,
Speaker 1: but sometimes they they miss. This one's pretty good, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know, I obviously coined the tackle that turned
Speaker 1: the tide. And by the way, I given how Patrick
Speaker 1: has played since that moment, I think it's still even
Speaker 1: though they lost and he threw the pick six, I
Speaker 1: think it still applies. I thought Patrick was for seventy
Speaker 1: five out of seventy six plays excellent yesterday. Now, the
Speaker 1: one mistake he made like fair is fair. It flipped
Speaker 1: the game, and so I'm not giving I'm not giving
Speaker 1: him a pass, but if I were, if I were saying,
Speaker 1: was that encouraging? Yeah? They said, was that the pick
Speaker 1: that made Nick sick? And you know who suggested that?
Speaker 2: Vic?
Speaker 1: All right, all right, well done, well done guys. But
Speaker 1: they said, is Trevor's TD the stumble that started the succession?
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. I think that's pretty good. I think
Speaker 1: it's pretty good. I like it, guys. All Right, you
Speaker 1: guys made me feel a little bit better. God, I
Speaker 1: was upset. Dang, I'm gonna have to deal with It's
Speaker 1: one thing that I'm gonna have to deal with Colin
Speaker 1: in a couple hours. But you know who is privately,
Speaker 1: I'm sure take demonte off camera reveling in this in
Speaker 1: my pain? J mac oh and the chiefs and the
Speaker 1: Chiefs loss. Oh boy, that's not gonna be fun. All right.
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Speaker 1: Week five in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Pal So, the Eagles were up two touchdowns going into
Speaker 2: the fourth of the Broncos and ended up blowing that game.
Speaker 2: So the Broncos ended up winning, and they haven't won
Speaker 2: an important game in over a year. How different are
Speaker 2: you thinking about these two teams after that one?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Your your point about the Broncos is because I
Speaker 1: know Broncos fans will be like, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: Won an important game? Made the playoffs. They haven't beaten
Speaker 1: a quality opponent since Week three of last season, or
Speaker 1: whenever they played Tampa might have been Week two. That
Speaker 1: was the first great win of the Sean Peyton era
Speaker 1: and of bo Nix's career. Now I know you know,
Speaker 1: my pal Schrager, I think overstated it a bit. When
Speaker 1: he said that was a career defining and regime defining
Speaker 1: moment for Sean Payton. That's a bit much. But Schrager
Speaker 1: is you know, Schrager's my guy, and he's very open
Speaker 1: and honest about the fact that he loves Sean Payton
Speaker 1: and he's rooting for Sean Payton. So that's fine. I
Speaker 1: think that was you know, a touch, A touch, more
Speaker 1: touch too much. I want to do the Broncos. Then
Speaker 1: I'll do the Eagles because I think it'll be we'll
Speaker 1: spend more time on the Eagles. Yeah. So the last
Speaker 1: time they beat a playoff team was September twenty second
Speaker 1: of last year, so more than a year before they
Speaker 1: had what I would call it, you know, a high
Speaker 1: quality win. That defense is spectacular, Okay, there is no
Speaker 1: getting around that. And we knew coming into the year
Speaker 1: that the defense could be really, really good. And Nick
Speaker 1: Benito has a legit case for Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 1: He's been that caliber of player. And in that fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: bo Nicks was excellent after starting the game off terribly
Speaker 1: and kind of getting lucky that they let it. I
Speaker 1: thought it was a pretty clear strip sack that somehow
Speaker 1: they called an incomplete pass. He then was twelve to
Speaker 1: fourteen some big conversions touchdown like he was really good
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of that game. So here is
Speaker 1: what is true for the Broncos. If they get anywhere
Speaker 1: close to the bow Knicks they got late in that game,
Speaker 1: then they are a legit dangerous team. The defense is excellent.
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, why I might think he's a touch overrated
Speaker 1: by some of his friends in the media, is obviously
Speaker 1: a good coach, very good coach, and they just need
Speaker 1: to have an above average offense to be a really
Speaker 1: good team. I am still skeptical of that. They will
Speaker 1: get an above average offense from bow Knicks. We'll see,
Speaker 1: and we'll see how much Sean Payton can coach him up. Now,
Speaker 1: demon's say they have back to back absolute must win
Speaker 1: games to get to five and two. They get the
Speaker 1: best thing you can ask for in the NFL this century,
Speaker 1: which is back to back New York games the Jets
Speaker 1: and the Giants. Now the by the way, neither is
Speaker 1: in New York, ones in London, and then ones in Denver.
Speaker 1: But that's what they have. And if you remember, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Broncos Giants. Broncos Giants is better than Broncos Jets.
Speaker 2: Broncos Jets.
Speaker 1: So but Broncos Jets Demons is going to be on
Speaker 1: is a London game, So that's a six AM. That'll
Speaker 1: be a zero watch from you. But after if you
Speaker 1: remember with my Broncos preseason skepticism, I said, I think
Speaker 1: they'll get off to an early start, people will start
Speaker 1: chirping at me, and then we'll see what they're really
Speaker 1: made up of late and after that Broncos, after that
Speaker 1: Jets Giant stretch. It's not that it's an impossible stretch
Speaker 1: of football, but it's not easy. Aside from the Raiders games,
Speaker 1: because again when I was talking about it being, you know,
Speaker 1: a brutal stretch, I didn't think the Raiders were going
Speaker 1: to be as bad as they are. But they go Cowboys, Texans, Raiders, Chiefs, Commanders, Raiders, Packers, Jags, Chiefs, Chargers,
Speaker 1: That's how they end the year. So they need to
Speaker 1: be five and two and then hope that they can
Speaker 1: go what with five and five in their final ten
Speaker 1: and that gets you in the playoffs. Ten wins will
Speaker 1: get you in. And so this was a great win
Speaker 1: for them in a game they had no signs of
Speaker 1: life for the first three quarters, which then takes us
Speaker 1: to Philadelphia. Demonse and I don't know if you saw
Speaker 1: the report yesterday that.
Speaker 2: A. J.
Speaker 1: Siriani and Jalen talked for a couple Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you know what, You're right. I don't think it was Siriani.
Speaker 1: I think it was Jalen. Yeah, that's right, that they
Speaker 1: talked for quote a few hours end quote. This is
Speaker 1: gonna be one of those things I say that I
Speaker 1: know I'm right, but if it gets captioned or aggregated it,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get killed for it, and it's going to
Speaker 1: seem unfair. But I know I'm right, and all the
Speaker 1: listeners know I'm right. That's too long to talk. You
Speaker 1: can't be you can't you can't be talking for a
Speaker 1: quote a couple hours. A couple's therapy is fifty five minutes. Like,
Speaker 1: that's too long. That is too long to have a
Speaker 1: conversation about the first five weeks of your season. It's
Speaker 1: just too long. And if it couldn't whatever, you couldn't
Speaker 1: come to a resolution on after forty five minutes to
Speaker 1: an hour, you weren't gonna have this massive breakthrough in
Speaker 1: the in hout and minute ninety eight. I know I'm right.
Speaker 1: You know I'm right. Everyone knows I'm right. That's too long.
Speaker 1: All right, to the more serious piece of it. Why
Speaker 1: can demands they not just have a normal game.
Speaker 2: They're a weird football team. Their team's so weird.
Speaker 1: I give them credit for Listen. I know they lost
Speaker 1: this week, but they obviously know how to win games,
Speaker 1: and they have a bunch of different ways to beat you.
Speaker 1: They've blocked a punt to flip a game, They've blocked
Speaker 1: a kick to win a game, Jalen's run to win,
Speaker 1: Jalen's throne to win, and like they've I give them
Speaker 1: credit for that. But in the last three weeks, they
Speaker 1: played a half a football with negative passing yards. They
Speaker 1: then played a half of football with zero completions. They
Speaker 1: then played half a football demonse that they led for
Speaker 1: almost the entirety of and they called two running plays.
Speaker 1: They called two running plays. I it feels to me
Speaker 1: like the offensive coordinator is on a little bit of
Speaker 1: tiltier because I don't.
Speaker 2: Do you think that he gets like flustered with like
Speaker 2: how is r receivers are complaining and just doesn't know
Speaker 2: how to how to go about it, Like it seems
Speaker 2: like they might.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Like we all were saying, try to
Speaker 1: work on the passing game some but it didn't mean
Speaker 1: that in the game you're winning, Saquon s you'd have
Speaker 1: six carries, like it just doesn't make sense they are.
Speaker 1: It's these vast, drastic over corrections. And here is the
Speaker 1: other the under disgusted but maybe more important story for
Speaker 1: the Eagles demons is this. And I think it's a
Speaker 1: fair question, but out of respect to the player and
Speaker 1: what he's accomplished, I want to ask it quietly, what's
Speaker 1: going on with Saquon? Like Saquon has last year, So
Speaker 1: let me just give a little context for this. Okay,
Speaker 1: last year in he played twenty games for Philly. Last year,
Speaker 1: he had one, two, three, four, five, six where he
Speaker 1: did not have one hundred yards, and he had four
Speaker 1: where he did not have at least eighty yards. His
Speaker 1: real quiet games were a win against the Browns in
Speaker 1: Week five eighteen for forty seven the Steelers game, which
Speaker 1: was right after AJ Brown said we need to, you know,
Speaker 1: work on the passing game, and Jalen had a big game.
Speaker 1: They won by two touchdowns. He had nineteen for sixty
Speaker 1: five the Cowboys game where one of them where he
Speaker 1: was fourteen for sixty six but they won by twenty eight,
Speaker 1: and the Super Bowl where he's twenty five for fifty seven.
Speaker 1: So here's what's noteworthy. His his four quietest games last year.
Speaker 1: One of them was a nip and tuck game with
Speaker 1: the Browns. The other ones were a blowout against the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: a blowout against the Steelers, and a blowout against the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: But he had six games where he didn't have one
Speaker 1: hundred and only four games where he didn't have eighty.
Speaker 1: This year, he has had one hundred zero times, he
Speaker 1: has had eighty one time, and he is averaging three
Speaker 1: point two yards per carry. He was eighteen for sixty
Speaker 1: in the opener, twenty two for eighty eight against the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: eighteen for forty six against the Rams, nineteen for forty
Speaker 1: three against Tampa, and six for thirty against Denver. And
Speaker 1: one of the things that comes to mind on that
Speaker 1: is for a guy who has been banged up throughout
Speaker 1: his career, when so his rookie year he had three
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty regular season touches and then the next
Speaker 1: year his production dipped a bit and the following year
Speaker 1: he suffered a serious injury. In twenty twenty two, he
Speaker 1: had three hundred and fifty regular season touches, and the
Speaker 1: next year his production dipped a bit and he missed
Speaker 1: a little bit of time. Last year he had three
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty regular I'm sorry, three hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: five regular season touches plus another seventy. He had like
Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty touches last year, and now is
Speaker 1: puction is DipEd massively. If Saquon is just not gonna
Speaker 1: have it this year, then they do need to work
Speaker 1: on the offense significantly. And I think that's a fair concern.
Speaker 1: And so I think the Eagles are an excellent team
Speaker 1: and that I was most worried about the past defense
Speaker 1: after Week one. But Dallas has now thrown the ball
Speaker 1: on everybody, and the young players in their secondary have
Speaker 1: gotten better. But the angst and here's the other concern.
Speaker 1: And by the way, reminder everybody watching like rate, subscribe
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Speaker 1: Two years ago, Demons, they were winning games, but they
Speaker 1: were angsty like this. It was always like, yeah, we're winning,
Speaker 1: but we're not playing the way we want to play.
Speaker 1: They started ten to one that season and then they
Speaker 1: had a historic collapse. They were winning a lot of
Speaker 1: ugly games, nip and tuck, and there was a lot
Speaker 1: of chatter, and then it all unraveled on them. They
Speaker 1: lost five of their final six and then basically flat
Speaker 1: quit in the playoff game against Tampa. And so that
Speaker 1: to me is because there is a little bit of
Speaker 1: history as to this team having a good record but
Speaker 1: not trusting it fully and then falling apart. It's noteworthy,
Speaker 1: and so that I'm not it's no reason to panic
Speaker 1: about Philadelphia, but things are not totally copasetic there. And
Speaker 1: now they also get a nice little gift before their
Speaker 1: bye week where their next three games are Giants Vikings Giants,
Speaker 1: so that's nice. And the fact that they have played
Speaker 1: they've played a brutal schedule. I think they're the only
Speaker 1: team in the league that has played nothing but good
Speaker 1: teams Cowboys, Chiefs, Rams, Bucks, Denver, and so you give
Speaker 1: them a lot of credit, But it does feel a
Speaker 1: little off the.
Speaker 2: Make you nervous at all, though for your Chiefs.
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about the Broncos. I do listen, the
Speaker 1: Chiefs losing yesterday, they had become briefly the favorites to
Speaker 1: win the AFC West again, and now I would imagine,
Speaker 1: in fact, I'm gonna look at that too with our
Speaker 1: friends at hard Rock.
Speaker 2: Bet.
Speaker 1: I'm pulling it up right now. The Futures Division winner, the.
Speaker 2: I think Vegas might be.
Speaker 1: I'll find it. It's basically a three way tie. One
Speaker 1: seventy five for the Chargers, one seventy five for the Broncos,
Speaker 1: one ninety for the Chiefs. So you know they're calling
Speaker 1: it a three way coin flip right now, And honestly,
Speaker 1: like a fair is fair. That Chiefs lost yesterday is
Speaker 1: real damaging in a lot of different ways. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go to the next game.
Speaker 2: The comeback story continues for Bake Show. He was down
Speaker 2: seven to three minutes left, led a game tying touchdown
Speaker 2: drive and his defense came over forced to turnover. You
Speaker 2: said that this team is the best team in the NFC,
Speaker 2: but they just lost to Philly. How are you feeling
Speaker 2: about the Baker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, No, Listen, I think that their ability to
Speaker 1: They have dealt with a ton of injuries and they're
Speaker 1: four and one, and I know they lost to Philly. However,
Speaker 1: they even with the head to have lost to Philly,
Speaker 1: doesn't their four and one vibes wise feel so much
Speaker 1: better than Philly's four and one. Yes, like they feel
Speaker 1: they're getting They're gonna get some of their offensive linemen back,
Speaker 1: They're gonna get Mike Evans back. Chris Godwin is only
Speaker 1: gonna get better coming off the injury they didn't have.
Speaker 1: Bucky Irving, Abuka is awesome, The Seahawks are legit, and
Speaker 1: Baker walked their asses down too, like and this is
Speaker 1: I know sometimes I can do this too much, but
Speaker 1: where I talk schedule and stuff and it might be
Speaker 1: a better visual thing. But one of the reasons I
Speaker 1: believed in Tampa was I said I thought they could
Speaker 1: start Demon's a six and five and potentially still get
Speaker 1: the one seed at twelve and five. They're now four
Speaker 1: and one. Here's the reason I'm pointing this out. Their
Speaker 1: final six games, six games more than a third of
Speaker 1: the season are Cardinals Saints Falcons on a Thursday at
Speaker 1: home Panthers, Dolphins, Panthers, bro. So if they are like,
Speaker 1: they're four and one right now. So if you just
Speaker 1: look at the Bucks, put their season in little buckets.
Speaker 1: This first bucket's done with. They're four and one now.
Speaker 1: The lead up two that stretch of football, it's very tough. Niners, Lions, Saints, Patriots, Bills, Rams.
Speaker 1: If they can just Niners, Lions, Saints, Patriots, Bills, Rams,
Speaker 1: Honest to god, if they go two and four in
Speaker 1: that stretch, that would put them at six and five
Speaker 1: and still I think be on pace for eleven or
Speaker 1: twelve wins if they can go. But right now, two
Speaker 1: and four, right they're home for the Niners. They're the
Speaker 1: better team. The Saints are not good. They're home for
Speaker 1: the Patriots, and while the Patriots are good, they're the
Speaker 1: better team. And then you have very tough road games
Speaker 1: at the Lions, at the Bills, at the Rams. I
Speaker 1: really I think this team can win thirteen games, and
Speaker 1: they're only gonna get healthier. So yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: think that right now, Baker Mayfield's the league MVP.
Speaker 2: Oh and he's doing all this with all these injuries. Yeah,
Speaker 2: seems like a very good candidate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, started the year at thirty five to one.
Speaker 1: He's now I think twelve to one. I think that
Speaker 1: I think people are the reason he's not higher is
Speaker 1: people haven't caught on to the fact that Tampa has
Speaker 1: a very decent shot of being the one seed and
Speaker 1: Baker with these comebacks, plus if they're the one of
Speaker 1: the two seed, I just think he absolutely could win
Speaker 1: League MVP. And also right now Abuca is even money
Speaker 1: to win Offensive Rookie of the Year, and so yeah,
Speaker 1: I really believe in Tampa. A Chiefs Buck super Bowl
Speaker 1: was my pick before. It would be very painful for
Speaker 1: me to Monsey because I've gotten I've never quite hit
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl exacta since we've been doing this show.
Speaker 1: I came very close one year, one game away Chiefs Niners.
Speaker 1: I then had Chiefs Cowboys. The Cowboys won twelve games
Speaker 1: but lost to Jordan Love. I then had Chiefs Bears
Speaker 1: and was a disaster. If I hit the long shot
Speaker 1: piece of it in the Bucks, but the Chiefs are
Speaker 1: the side that lets me down, it'd be devastating. That
Speaker 1: would be hard, just devastating, all right, before we get
Speaker 1: to some of the other games. Now it's time for
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Speaker 1: paying tribute to the legends who started with no scholarship,
Speaker 1: no spotlight, and still carved out unforgettable careers. Last week,
Speaker 1: we started off with a no doubter, Baker Mayfield. Perfect segue.
Speaker 1: Now we're talking about HM winning league. MVP had to
Speaker 1: be on there. This next guy is just as much
Speaker 1: of a no doubter, and that is a guy who
Speaker 1: has an argument that he has the greatest four year
Speaker 1: stretch of defensive football and NFL history. And I was
Speaker 1: able to cover that in person. And that is one
Speaker 1: JJ Watt. JJ Watt was a scholarship player at Central
Speaker 1: Michigan as a tight end. They then wanted to move
Speaker 1: him to tackle. He gave up his scholarship to go
Speaker 1: to Wisconsin and walk on as a defensive end. He
Speaker 1: switched to d end and after a year redshirting. His
Speaker 1: first year playing he had sixteen tackles for loss and
Speaker 1: four and a half sacks, and the next year was
Speaker 1: an All American with seven sacks, a pick, and twenty
Speaker 1: one tackles for loss and turning himself into a no
Speaker 1: doubt first round pick. He followed that up with again,
Speaker 1: what I think is and we talk about Aaron Donald,
Speaker 1: and I understand Aaron Donald. His career is absolutely unbelievable.
Speaker 1: What JJ Watt did from twenty twelve to twenty fifteen
Speaker 1: in the NFL hard to find a higher peak on
Speaker 1: bad Texans teams. One of them was good that didn't
Speaker 1: have the lead that often. In twenty twelve, he forced
Speaker 1: four fumbles, had twenty and a half sacks, and had
Speaker 1: thirty nine tackles for loss, again playing three to four
Speaker 1: defensive end. The next year ten and a half sacks
Speaker 1: and twenty two tackles for loss, the next year, twenty
Speaker 1: and a half sacks, twenty nine tackles for loss, and
Speaker 1: then seventeen and a half sacks and twenty nine tackles
Speaker 1: for loss. In that four year stretch, JJ won three
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year awards. Had played sixty four games.
Speaker 1: In those games, forced fifteen fumbles recovered ten, had sixty
Speaker 1: nine sacks and one hundred and nineteen TFLs so he
Speaker 1: averaged over a four year stretch three tackles for a
Speaker 1: loss or sack per game, and one of those years
Speaker 1: he added I think I'm gonna try to find it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of those years he also add three touchdown catches.
Speaker 1: Twenty fourteen, he was a walk on at Wisconsin. He
Speaker 1: and Baker are no doubters on the college football walk
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Speaker 1: get to your sad team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Matt Ravens got abused this weekend. We obviously
Speaker 2: had a backup quarterback in We couldn't get anything going.
Speaker 2: Our defense had CJ. Stroud out there thinking he was
Speaker 2: young again. Man. But you're saying that we can still
Speaker 2: win the division. I don't see it. I gotta say,
Speaker 2: I don't know how much the Steelers are gonna slip.
Speaker 1: So you making the playoffs, but well, I think the
Speaker 1: only way they can make the playoffs is winning this division. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I think that the So they're one and four
Speaker 1: and they're bad. They's a bad team right now. And
Speaker 1: Lamar is gonna and listen, I thought they could win
Speaker 1: that game. Yeah, with that, I certainly didn't think they
Speaker 1: were just gonna quit and get annihilated. I mean, I
Speaker 1: can check. Uh that was uh really disheartening performance and
Speaker 1: that's probably couldn't understating it. It was thirty six to
Speaker 1: twenty is thirty seven to twenty three, right, Derek Well.
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is another guy I'm worried about this year.
Speaker 1: Dereck Henry was unbelievable in Week one, has not done
Speaker 1: much since then. So you guys would need, obviously the
Speaker 1: Steelers to slip up what you have going for you.
Speaker 1: Demonse is you let's just assume you lose to the Rams.
Speaker 1: You then have a bye week, Lamar will be. You
Speaker 1: then face an absolute bunch of must wins in a row,
Speaker 1: but they're very winnable must wins home for the Bears,
Speaker 1: off a bye at Miami on a Thursday at the
Speaker 1: Vikings with extra rest at the Browns home for the Jets,
Speaker 1: home for the Bengals, before you face the Steelers at
Speaker 1: home than at the Bengals, and then a very tough
Speaker 1: final three games of the year home for the Patriots
Speaker 1: at the Packers, at the Steelers. The defense is awful,
Speaker 1: just awful. And listen, it's going to take a herculean
Speaker 1: Lamar performance once he comes back. But I can't because
Speaker 1: I don't yet fully believe in Pittsburgh. I can't write
Speaker 1: off Baltimore entirely. But they look terrible. And we said
Speaker 1: going in of the year, every year there's a team
Speaker 1: that everyone expects to be excellent as the year from hell.
Speaker 1: Last year it was the Niners. The year before that,
Speaker 1: it was the Bengals, the year before that it was
Speaker 1: the Rams. The Rams are coming off of Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: They missed the playoffs. The Bengals were coming off back
Speaker 1: to back AFC Championship Game appearances. They missed the playoffs.
Speaker 1: The Niners were coming off a Super Bowl appearance. They
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs. This year, the five teams that would
Speaker 1: have qualified for everyone thinks they're going to be good Eagles, Lions, Chiefs,
Speaker 1: Bill's Ravens. I understand the Chiefs have had been shaky,
Speaker 1: but there it's the Ravens right now. Yeah, and it is. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know, you guys have just been a bad team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've just been bad and everyone. Yeah, but the defense
Speaker 1: was pretty bad even before the injury started piling up,
Speaker 1: which is what concerns me. All right, let's go to
Speaker 1: Pats Bills.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, so maybe rollercoaster Josh Allen is back. They
Speaker 2: had a few turnovers in that game. Drake may looked amazing,
Speaker 2: But looking back on things, Buffalo came close to Baltimore
Speaker 2: my Ravens in that one game, and one by a point. Like,
Speaker 2: if you look at the teams these guys have played,
Speaker 2: they haven't really beaten the best teams. What's going on
Speaker 2: with the Bills?
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I do think the Bills were a little
Speaker 1: over inflated, right. They played Baltimore and had that stirring comeback,
Speaker 1: and people looked at that as a huge badge of honor.
Speaker 1: I think you now look at it and you're like, man,
Speaker 1: why'd you like? Everybody's scoring on Baltimore the and so
Speaker 1: that's a little different. They then blew out the Jets,
Speaker 1: and that was you know, you play a bad team,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to blow them out. They did blow him out.
Speaker 1: They get credit a ton of credit for that, not
Speaker 1: a ton, but credit for that. Then the Dolphins game,
Speaker 1: they're tied midway through the fourth. The Saints game, it's
Speaker 1: a two point game midway through the fourth and then
Speaker 1: they get to just get stone beat by the Pats.
Speaker 1: He I have two slight concerns for the Bills. One
Speaker 1: is more than slight. Actually, I don't think the defense
Speaker 1: is very good, and I think the defense is, you know,
Speaker 1: slightly below average, and I think that's concerning. The other
Speaker 1: thing isn't so much a concern, is an observation. They
Speaker 1: have changed what they're asking Josh to do. The last
Speaker 1: couple of years. They have asked him not to put
Speaker 1: the cape on his often, just take care of the ball,
Speaker 1: and he's done a great job of doing that until
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. It is if you are
Speaker 1: going to remove the explosives, then it's a prerequisite you
Speaker 1: don't turn the ball over. Like the Bills have become
Speaker 1: kind of a ball control methodical offense, and it's worked
Speaker 1: great for them. Back when Josh used to turn the
Speaker 1: ball over a lot, they also had to play eighty
Speaker 1: yard touchdown drives and so you could offset it a bit.
Speaker 1: With this style of offense, Demanse, you just can't turn the
Speaker 1: ball over and that's what got him in this game.
Speaker 1: And so again I think the Bills are going to
Speaker 1: be fine, and the Bills.
Speaker 2: Well, one of them was. I feel like, I don't
Speaker 2: want to say dumb luck. Keon Coleman one can't really
Speaker 2: blame on Josh, that's kind of I mean, obviously the pick.
Speaker 1: Is on him, but the fumble, what was the Keon
Speaker 1: Coleman one?
Speaker 2: Well, you passed ke On Coleman. They ended up getting
Speaker 2: a fumble.
Speaker 1: Oh no, that one's not on Josh at all.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, the mistakes.
Speaker 1: No, they had three turnovers. Keon Coleman fumbles on Keon Coleman.
Speaker 1: The interception was bad, and then they had a missed pitch.
Speaker 1: I'm really just talking about the interception. And so listen
Speaker 1: at the Falcons is their game Monday night, and then
Speaker 1: they have a bye and then they play. They're at
Speaker 1: the Panthers before their big Chiefs game. So I think
Speaker 1: they're fine. But I did not view them before this
Speaker 1: game as a juggernaut, and I don't view them currently
Speaker 1: as a juggernaut. You want to talk about the Patriots
Speaker 1: real quick before we move on.
Speaker 2: So the Patriots are minus two hundred to make the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Can you name seven better AFC teams?
Speaker 1: No? I don't and that was the best win they've
Speaker 1: had since Bill Belichick was coaching the team, and so
Speaker 1: and Drake May played great and so. Like I said
Speaker 1: this on the show yesterday, and I think it's fair
Speaker 1: if you're a Patriot fan, I think a realistic ceiling
Speaker 1: of your season now is you get you're the highest
Speaker 1: seeded wild card team, so you're the five seed, and
Speaker 1: you go on the road to Pittsburgh in round one
Speaker 1: and beat them Like that would be that the Pittsburgh's
Speaker 1: the lowest ranked, the lowest seeded divisional winner, the Patriots
Speaker 1: are the highest seeded, you know, wild card team, and
Speaker 1: you go get a playoff win. That would be awesome.
Speaker 1: And I think they could do that, like I do.
Speaker 1: I think that's in play for them. I picked them
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs before the year. Partly was because
Speaker 1: the schedule is so soft and and they now and
Speaker 1: again sorry to do so much schedule stuff today that
Speaker 1: it is now absolutely incumbent upon them. They they are
Speaker 1: three and two. They must get to six and two.
Speaker 1: Their next three demands at Saints, at Titans, home for Browns. Like,
Speaker 1: if you are a real team, which you are supposed
Speaker 1: to be right now, you've got to go take care
Speaker 1: of business like that flatly, and I think they can
Speaker 1: do it. I think they can get to six and
Speaker 1: two and be, you know, a pain in Buffalo's side
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Speaker 1: to the last game we're to spend real time on
Speaker 1: before we get to the quick hitters.
Speaker 2: So the Chargers have dropped two straight. Now what first?
Speaker 2: The Giants? Now it's the Commanders. Those MVP chants for
Speaker 2: Herbert have gotten a little quiet. He's now seventh place.
Speaker 2: They've obviously got injuries, but you know, as justin Herbert,
Speaker 2: you got to throw for these two hundred yards while
Speaker 2: being down big as any any other quarterback had more excuses.
Speaker 1: Listen is made for them. Yeah, Herbert's not making the excuses,
Speaker 1: but his defenders are. And again, he's obviously a good player.
Speaker 1: He's obviously a good player, and he's obviously more than
Speaker 1: good when it comes out talented, he is. But and
Speaker 1: I know that that he's had some bad luck. But
Speaker 1: he's in year six. Man in year six, and this
Speaker 1: is the third straight game. And this is what is
Speaker 1: really concerning to me. The Broncos game, Okay, they're up
Speaker 1: ten to nothing moments into the second quarter. They then
Speaker 1: they are sitting on thirteen with three minutes left in
Speaker 1: the game. They now, he made that unbelievable play to
Speaker 1: that touchdown pass, one of the best plays of the year,
Speaker 1: to tie that game. Then they end up winning at
Speaker 1: the gun. But the Broncos game, they score ten immediately,
Speaker 1: then the offense goes quiet until the very end of
Speaker 1: the game. The Giants game, they just loose. You know.
Speaker 1: They they have ten at halftime, they finished the game
Speaker 1: with eighteen points. They have multiple possessions in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: down three, chance to tie or win, they can't take advantage,
Speaker 1: and the Commander's game, they have ten points with three
Speaker 1: minutes left in the first and they finish with ten points,
Speaker 1: like they have really quieted down, and that like if
Speaker 1: they were in such a great position being three to
Speaker 1: zero in the division, and now all of a sudden
Speaker 1: they're in a real dog fight with And we've known
Speaker 1: this all year about them that they have arguably the
Speaker 1: toughest December of any team in the league. December they
Speaker 1: do they go Eagles, Chiefs, Cowboys, Texans, Broncos with Chiefs,
Speaker 1: Cowboys and Broncos being on the road so they need
Speaker 1: a margin of error built in. And losing to the
Speaker 1: Giants and losing to the Commanders at home the first game,
Speaker 1: Jaden's back. When you're up ten, nothing is not great.
Speaker 1: And so listen, they looked awesome against the Chiefs, and
Speaker 1: I give him a ton of credit for that and
Speaker 1: they but now all of a sudden you look back
Speaker 1: and you're like that the Raiders have been terrible. So
Speaker 1: you know, that's what it is. And you know that
Speaker 1: was just a whiff by me up to this point.
Speaker 1: And the Broncos game that's a really you know, that's
Speaker 1: a really good win. But the Giants loss is awful
Speaker 1: and the Commander's loss was ugly, and Herbert, after starting
Speaker 1: the year with those amazing numbers, has fallen right back
Speaker 1: down to earth, and the injuries are piling up. Alt
Speaker 1: is injured, Mac is still injured. Their rookie running back Hampton,
Speaker 1: he just got put on the ir So Naji Harris
Speaker 1: obviously done for the year. Like, the injuries are really mounting,
Speaker 1: and so I I think that there is real concern
Speaker 1: with the Chargers, and I think that you're not gonna
Speaker 1: be able to blame the coach on this one. Like hardball,
Speaker 1: everybody thinks he's great. And again, I don't think Herbert's
Speaker 1: played terribly or anything. I just you just want a
Speaker 1: little more. You just want a little bit more. All right,
Speaker 1: what's the follow up here?
Speaker 2: So Jayde Daniels obviously just came back beat the charges
Speaker 2: coming off that injury. We were just talking about Drake
Speaker 2: may Do you think that Jaydon Daniels has some competition
Speaker 2: and best quarterback in the class?
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I still think it's a three way race.
Speaker 1: And by the way, Jaden against Caleb Monday night, who's
Speaker 1: the third and Jayden Caleb Drake, Oh, Caleb, Yeah, that's what. No,
Speaker 1: I think Caleb's still in it. He hasn't. Again, Caleb's
Speaker 1: had at this point as good of, if not a better,
Speaker 1: career than Drake May. Like the Drake May just got
Speaker 1: a signature win, you know what I mean. We just
Speaker 1: saw Drake May with a signature win in a standalone game.
Speaker 1: Caleb might get that this weekend. I mean it's Monday
Speaker 1: Night against Jayden. Like, I just think the it wasn't
Speaker 1: too early to say CJ was better than Bryce because
Speaker 1: Bryce was so bad and CJ was so good. But
Speaker 1: with and Jayden was so good, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: But Drake and Caleb weren't terrible. They just weren't last
Speaker 1: was immediately. Yeah, Jayden had an amazing start to his career,
Speaker 1: but the the injuries with I think he's going to
Speaker 1: be more of an injury risk than the other two
Speaker 1: as well, which is a real concern. All right, let's
Speaker 1: do the real quick.
Speaker 2: All the other games, uh, Thursday night football, we had
Speaker 2: Niners defeating the Rams twenty six to twenty three going overtime.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable job by Kyle Shanahan and by Mac Jones, and
Speaker 1: a brutal loss for the Rams. Just a painful. You
Speaker 1: can't lose that game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, hey, they're paying him too much, but.
Speaker 1: They're paying him. Yeah, they not paid him, there would
Speaker 1: be a real quarterback controversy, but they paid him. And
Speaker 1: I think Purty's better than Mac by the way, but
Speaker 1: this is one.
Speaker 2: Of those things they disagree.
Speaker 1: But also I I think people expect me to take
Speaker 1: like a I told you so, Victory lap On party
Speaker 1: in the Shanahan system and all this stuff. I don't
Speaker 1: really need to because it was so clear all along
Speaker 1: for anyone without an agenda, that I was right. And
Speaker 1: it's not that Purty's not good. It's that Kyle Shanahan's system,
Speaker 1: particularly once you had Christian McCaffrey, particularly once you had
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey and all these other weapons, is a great
Speaker 1: inflation system for whatever quarterbacks in it, as long as
Speaker 1: they have just baseline starting ability. And he can make
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo look really good, can make Mac Jones look
Speaker 1: really good, and can make Purdy, who's better than both
Speaker 1: of those guys, look great, even though Garoppolo is flatly bad.
Speaker 1: Mac Jones, prior to his time with the Niners, had
Speaker 1: been flatly bad and party. We don't, you know, I
Speaker 1: think is fine, but he can like that. It's a
Speaker 1: Shanahan thing. And credit to the Niners. They've dealt with
Speaker 1: all these injuries and they're fine, and they're four and
Speaker 1: one and now play a huge game this weekend against Tampa.
Speaker 2: Next there are London game this week. Vikings to feeding
Speaker 2: the Browns twenty one seventeen.
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, that I watched this whole game. I also
Speaker 1: made just a as square of a bet as one
Speaker 1: can make. I I the Browns were getting four before kickoff.
Speaker 1: At halftime, I bet the Browns laying two and a
Speaker 1: half because I thought Carson Wentz was out for the game,
Speaker 1: and then he wasn't, and then the Vikings won, and
Speaker 1: so that was a painful one. We don't need Dylan. Listen,
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel was fine. Dylan Gabriel was not great. He
Speaker 1: was fine and he'll be the start of there for
Speaker 1: the foreseeable future.
Speaker 2: Next, we got the Cowboys defeating the Jets thirty seven
Speaker 2: to twenty two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we said before the year that Dak was gonna
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys were gonna have to do their best.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and the Bengals impersonation from last year, and
Speaker 1: it's exactly what they're doing right around five hundred. They
Speaker 1: are actually exactly five hundred and two to two and one,
Speaker 1: and and they and Dak is putting up an MVP
Speaker 1: caliber season. If we don't care about the team's record,
Speaker 1: just like Joe did last.
Speaker 2: Year, next we got the Saints to feed the Giants
Speaker 2: twenty six to fourteen.
Speaker 1: I have no interest in discussing this game. I guess
Speaker 1: Rattler's been fine. Good for him for avoiding going zero
Speaker 1: to eleven as a starter. That's a horrible loss for
Speaker 1: the Giants. And if you remember, we said that that
Speaker 1: line was fishy, that who in the world was betting
Speaker 1: the Saints laying points against the Giants team coming off
Speaker 1: that win and the Saints control the whole game.
Speaker 2: Colts defeat the Raiders forty to six.
Speaker 1: All Right, I might have been wrong about the Raiders.
Speaker 1: They just have to accept it. Gino's been brutal, the
Speaker 1: team's been awful. And here's here is something else that
Speaker 1: I was saying Demanse that the Colts after or two
Speaker 1: weeks they reminded me of last year's Saints. I want
Speaker 1: to amend that because I found a way better comp
Speaker 1: They are last year's Vikings, the team out of nowhere
Speaker 1: with the retread quarter that puts up these crazy numbers,
Speaker 1: gets off to a gaudy record in the regular season
Speaker 1: and then gets clocked in their first playoff games.
Speaker 2: Playoff game.
Speaker 1: Well, I listen, it won't be the first of his
Speaker 1: career because he but yeah, yeah, yes, yeah. I think
Speaker 1: the a f C Wild Guard I think whatever the
Speaker 1: a f C Wild Guard teams are demons are going
Speaker 1: to have a real good chance of beating the a
Speaker 1: f C South and a f C North Division winners
Speaker 1: on the road in the playoffs. So but the rule,
Speaker 1: I mean, listen to the Colts. The Colts have played
Speaker 1: two legitimate teams and played them both to the wire,
Speaker 1: the Broncos, who they won and the Rams who they lost.
Speaker 1: And they've played three bad teams and just smoked them all.
Speaker 1: So credit to them.
Speaker 2: Next, Panthers defeat the Dolphins twenty seven to twenty four.
Speaker 1: Man, Mike McDaniels seems so sad. Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw the oppressor that he did. It seemed
Speaker 2: like he said nothing for like thirty seconds. I don't know,
Speaker 2: man's trying to get fired.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's trying to get fired. But he's
Speaker 1: he he's he's on till and it's not great.
Speaker 2: Sad to see.
Speaker 1: Uh. And and by the way, like Bryce has some
Speaker 1: of the worst plays you've ever seen in your life,
Speaker 1: and then late in these games rallies a bit. But
Speaker 1: like that fumble was just unbelievable. All right, let's go
Speaker 1: to the next thame.
Speaker 2: Think like the Jackson Dart fumble to feed the Cardinals
Speaker 2: twenty two to twenty one.
Speaker 1: I turned this game off and went full screen Baker Seahawks,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't believe what when I saw.
Speaker 2: That touchdown I've ever seen in my life. I don't
Speaker 2: think I've ever seen a touchdown scored in that type
Speaker 2: of fashion.
Speaker 1: Why literally the fumble and then that and then all
Speaker 1: of it. Also Jonathan Gannon getting a bit of a
Speaker 1: pass for seemingly punching his couple of times. That was crazy.
Speaker 1: That was crazy. Also, let me say one other thing
Speaker 1: I think he scored.
Speaker 2: That was that I thought that one was really close too.
Speaker 1: I thought it was way too close to overturn. It
Speaker 1: felt like they were that they overturned it, like on principle,
Speaker 1: like you shouldn't have been screwing around making an example. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought that was a Listen, obviously the guy made
Speaker 1: a big mistake, but I think he I thought he
Speaker 1: scored all.
Speaker 2: Right, Last Lives to Feed the Bengals thirty seven to
Speaker 2: twenty four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lions look excellent. The Bengals are cooked the bank.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bengals are just flat cooked. All right,
Speaker 1: Let's get to a few listener questions.
Speaker 2: If uh waffle says Nick, the Knick's hair will never
Speaker 2: be as nice as Trevor's and we're gonna throw away.
Speaker 1: Well, no, that's obviously true that. I mean, that's listen.
Speaker 1: The guy's got the guy's got glorious hair. There's no
Speaker 1: there's no question my nice as Trevers. I'm not going
Speaker 1: for it. The producers are trying to do a bit here. Graphically,
Speaker 1: they figured out how to do it. They're trying to
Speaker 1: put They need me to, like, I think, rotate in
Speaker 1: my chair. Guys, we're gonna have to save this for
Speaker 1: another time. Let's go on to the question.
Speaker 2: Curtis asked, if the Lions beat the Chiefs next week,
Speaker 2: are they the Super Bowl favorites? I feel like, uh,
Speaker 2: it's Lions here due to the lack of any serious
Speaker 2: threats in the UNFC.
Speaker 1: They might be favorites already. But here's the thing, No,
Speaker 1: the Bills are still the favorites the I don't think.
Speaker 1: Right now, the NFC looks harder than the AFC. Right now,
Speaker 1: it looks like So here's the part. If you're let
Speaker 1: me real quick, Josh and Patrick are gonna make the
Speaker 1: playoffs and look around at the other quarterbacks and they
Speaker 1: are going to see old man Aaron Rodgers, Daniel Jones,
Speaker 1: Drake may maybe bone knicks my guy, Trevor Right, that's
Speaker 1: what they're gonna be looking at. In the NFC, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be Super Bowl champion, Jalen Hurts, playoff stud, Baker Mayfield,
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, Jared Goff, who's been to a Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels, who's been to NFC champion. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It's this has not been how it's been
Speaker 1: the last decade. But the projected quarterback field in the
Speaker 1: NFC is way deeper than the projected quarterback field in
Speaker 1: the AFC.
Speaker 2: It's like school in the AFC, younger guy, ye new
Speaker 2: school AFC, older guys n FC.
Speaker 1: Right, which is not how it's been. It's very interesting.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: Next, Danny, as, is Chris Jones having a save my
Speaker 2: best effort for the playoff season or is he washed?
Speaker 1: He's definitely not washed. But he's got to play better. Listen,
Speaker 1: Chris has to play better. And I'm not you know,
Speaker 1: last week was special when he went to that funeral,
Speaker 1: flew back day of and you know, played in that
Speaker 1: Ravens game. Uh. But and he's getting double teamed or
Speaker 1: triple team to every play. I get that. But he's
Speaker 1: got to play better and he's gotta, you know, give
Speaker 1: better effort on the final plays. Like that's all fair.
Speaker 1: But I believe Chris Jones future first ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: I believe in him. All right. Reminder Life Rate subscribe,
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