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Speaker 1: d Kelly fighting off a sneeze here to begin the show.
Speaker 2: That's never happened. Oh man, I had to do that
Speaker 2: the other day. Uh maybe take Kelly out of tight shot.
Speaker 2: There we go, that's looking cut. Give you a little
Speaker 2: time for for the sniffles if you need.
Speaker 1: I'll think it's gonnap it. It's not gonna have it.
Speaker 1: You can go back.
Speaker 2: I thought that after a segment like on Thursday or Friday.
Speaker 1: It's hilarious. How was your weekend, by the way, how
Speaker 1: to go?
Speaker 2: It was pretty good? It was pretty good. We're gonna
Speaker 2: get into the into the games here. Uh yes, as
Speaker 2: we always do on Monday. But uh, as you and
Speaker 2: I were talking about, man, it was it was a
Speaker 2: good weekend.
Speaker 1: But it could have been oh so great if the
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons cover. It's a massive weekend in dead nothing
Speaker 1: to really talk about. And as I was telling you too,
Speaker 1: thank god.
Speaker 2: The NBA is back, because as you just you just
Speaker 2: get bad beats, you know, multiple times a week essentially
Speaker 2: in the NBA. It really helps you get through some
Speaker 2: of these NFL weekends that hurts you a lot more
Speaker 2: earlier in the year.
Speaker 1: This is this is the season that could have been
Speaker 1: from me three to one and one again in the contest,
Speaker 1: me too, But it's a season that differences in the
Speaker 1: on the magapot, I'm twenty nine to fifteen in one
Speaker 1: this year. We're just crushing the NFL. But I had
Speaker 1: two oho and fives this year that destroyed the whole thing.
Speaker 2: What's your okay, So you went through one to one
Speaker 2: this week two? What'd you do week one of the quarter?
Speaker 1: Oh and five? Oh that was my second oh to
Speaker 1: five of the year. Yeah, so it just destroys everything.
Speaker 1: But anyway, we'll get into it. So if you're new
Speaker 1: to this again, only three more of these this year
Speaker 1: really before the postseason. I'm in a cocoon. I don't
Speaker 1: know the lines for week sixteen the upcoming week in
Speaker 1: the National Football League, it's called guessing lines, And in
Speaker 1: that exercise, we'll look back at everything that happened yesterday
Speaker 1: and this weekend, really Saturday and Sunday. We hope to
Speaker 1: extract value in the upcoming upcoming weekends. And this exercise
Speaker 1: has been, with the exception of a couple weeks this year, fantastic.
Speaker 1: First though, before we get into it, a look at
Speaker 1: Survivor Circus Survivor. What happened to the accent right there?
Speaker 1: For a second? Circus Survivor goes from thirteen to ten. Oh,
Speaker 1: the math is easy now, Kelly Bidlin, remaining intrinsic value
Speaker 1: theoretical of each of the remaining ten entries nine hundred
Speaker 1: twenty six thousand, seven hundred dollars nine point twenty six
Speaker 1: seven million. That makes sense, nine hundred twenty six thousand,
Speaker 1: seven hundred dollars per entry, pouring out a forty for
Speaker 1: our own Adam Burke, who was among the three eliminated. Adam,
Speaker 1: we should give a shout out to Mark Goldberg from
Speaker 1: Spooky Express who had Adam on with him, but a
Speaker 1: shout out to him. They had the Titans. They were
Speaker 1: one of two entries that had the Titans, the other
Speaker 1: one had the Packers. We are down to ten. Five
Speaker 1: had the Rams, that was the most strongly picked. Two
Speaker 1: had the Bengals, one had the Niners, one had the Saints,
Speaker 1: one had the Brownies. And I would assume, you know
Speaker 1: what they say about assuming, but I would assume there
Speaker 1: will be no chop again because the gentleman who didn't
Speaker 1: want to chop last week still alive poker player was
Speaker 1: named Sean Perry, I believe was his name, if I
Speaker 1: have that correct, So a golden boy, though it is
Speaker 1: his name, Yes, in the con still in it, so yes.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, I think, with him advancing. And you're
Speaker 2: only down to ten too, so it's not like this win.
Speaker 2: You know, the Rams would have gone down obviously it
Speaker 2: might be a different story. But down to ten, don't
Speaker 2: think we should expect to chop. And if there's anything
Speaker 2: like an announcer's curse with this, yell me on air
Speaker 2: yesterday on Live Bed Sunday with Ben waxing poetically about
Speaker 2: how great it was to see Adam Burker make this
Speaker 2: run and what a great guy and all that, and then.
Speaker 1: So just so deserving. I waxed about him a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago that I wanted him to win, but
Speaker 1: oh well, it's tough man again. And this is the
Speaker 1: week where there's two happening before we come back on Monday. Right,
Speaker 1: it's the Christmas quote unquote week in addition to the
Speaker 1: actual So is it sixteen A and sixteen B if
Speaker 1: you will, by a circus survivor parlance? So good luck
Speaker 1: to everybody. By the way, this time last year, fourteen
Speaker 1: entries were left.
Speaker 2: Wait, so how does it work? Is it Thursday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday?
Speaker 2: This week is one and then you have to pick Monday.
Speaker 1: There's three games whatever, the Christmas day and the one
Speaker 1: after Christmas, I believe it is. Is that correct? It's
Speaker 1: the it's the last three games, the last three games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the Christmas one. I want to start this. Let's
Speaker 1: do that. There are three on Christmas. I had to Okay,
Speaker 1: three on Christmas, three on Christmas. Those are the ones.
Speaker 1: All right, guess lines, let's hit it. Hey, we have
Speaker 1: an what was coming? All right, I'm gonna started. I
Speaker 1: missed that scratching idea in there. Yeah, yeah, got that
Speaker 1: going on. I like that, all right, Thursday night, we
Speaker 1: got a thriller Saints at Rams. Well, it means something
Speaker 1: to seven and seven teams. Saints right now tied with
Speaker 1: the Bucks, although they do not lead technically the NFC
Speaker 1: South and the Rams now inside the NFC playoff picture.
Speaker 1: Is that right that the Rams are on the inside, Yes,
Speaker 1: they are. They are in the seventh hole right now
Speaker 1: in the NFC. Okay, yesterday the Saints beat the Giants,
Speaker 1: stopping the Giants train, if you will. Giants started out
Speaker 1: with a fifty six yard Randy Bullock field goal on
Speaker 1: the game's opening drive, but then he heard his hamstring
Speaker 1: on the ensuing kickoff. Then after trade of three and outs,
Speaker 1: New Orleans went sixty eight yards eleven plays card Keith
Speaker 1: Kirkwood for seven seven to three New Orleans late first quarter.
Speaker 1: The Giants would add a field goal before the end
Speaker 1: of the half, but it was seven to six New
Speaker 1: Orleans field goal by the punter, which was always Matt
Speaker 1: Brown's problem. Field goal by Jamie Gillen. That's correct, forty
Speaker 1: yard field goal. The total yards at the half one
Speaker 1: twelve to ninety nine New Orleans. Real Barnburner third quarter
Speaker 1: of New Orleans opening drive ten play sixty eight yards
Speaker 1: cartera Juwan Johnson for twenty three fourteen to six Saints.
Speaker 1: Then after a Giants three and out, group would add
Speaker 1: a fifty yard field goal seventeen to six Saints. After
Speaker 1: another Giants three and out sixty five yards and eleven
Speaker 1: plays Car to Jimmy Graham, Hey, there is from one
Speaker 1: out twenty four to six. Uh. From there on out
Speaker 1: it was really just a Giants turnover on downs twice.
Speaker 1: That would be the ballgame. Car twenty three of twenty
Speaker 1: eight for two eighteen three touchdowns, no picks and one sack.
Speaker 1: Come on, Giants, you just gotta lose a couple more
Speaker 1: and then the alternate season win total under well Cash.
Speaker 1: The Rams beat Washington yesterday to get to seven and seven.
Speaker 1: Har Sick twenty two yardfield goal to start out the
Speaker 1: festivities after a Washington three and out three to nothing
Speaker 1: Rams then this was the real story of the first half.
Speaker 1: The Rams should have blown Washington off the field, but
Speaker 1: instead Washington matriculated fourth and one at the Rams twelve
Speaker 1: Howel pass deflected and complete stopped long downs thirty six
Speaker 1: seconds left in the first quarter. Then the Rams matriculated,
Speaker 1: but first and ten at the Washington twenty one Kyron
Speaker 1: Williams tackled by Cody Bartney. Fumbles were covered by Kendall Fuller.
Speaker 1: After another Washington three and out, Rams go fifty three
Speaker 1: yards ten plays, Kyron in from one ten to nothing
Speaker 1: Rams two nineteen left in the second quarter, and then
Speaker 1: after another Washington three and out the Rams second and
Speaker 1: four at the Washington forty five Kyra fumbles again. Saint
Speaker 1: Juice Benjamin says, juiced on the hit, Cameron Curl on
Speaker 1: the recovery. Good times for those of us holding an
Speaker 1: over forty eight and a half ticket. Oh, it gets
Speaker 1: even better for you, It would get even better. Washington
Speaker 1: another three and out, terrible snap by Cameron Cheeseman Tressway.
Speaker 1: The punter couldn't handle it. Rams were set up at
Speaker 1: Washington at the Washington or deep in Washington Territor with
Speaker 1: thirty four seconds left second quarter that led to a
Speaker 1: half or six twenty seven yard field goal thirteen to
Speaker 1: nothing Rams. At the half. You should have had way
Speaker 1: more points. Rams led in total yards two forty two
Speaker 1: to eighty three. At the half it was fourteen to
Speaker 1: three and first downs, but those minus two and turnovers
Speaker 1: were killing you. Rams. Second play third quarter, Stafford a
Speaker 1: cup for sixty two twenty to nothing. Rams. Later Washington
Speaker 1: short field forty eight yards, seven plays how Old a
Speaker 1: Samuel from nineteen out twenty to seven Rams six twenty
Speaker 1: four left third quarter. Then the Rams punt after taking
Speaker 1: to delay when it was fourth and three at the
Speaker 1: Washington forty two. I'm sure you love that with one
Speaker 1: fifty eight left of the third quarter, looking at it
Speaker 1: through the prism of your You're over. Then Washington three
Speaker 1: and out again, almost the most amaz and catch you'll
Speaker 1: ever see by Terry McLaurin, but not to be ruled
Speaker 1: in complete. And then the Rams five plays fifty one
Speaker 1: yard Stafford DeMarcus Robinson from twenty three out Kiren in
Speaker 1: for the two point conversion, twenty eight to seven Rams
Speaker 1: thirteen twenty five to go. The Rams were coasting and
Speaker 1: you're over. Still had a shot. First play, next drive
Speaker 1: Howell picked by John Johnson the third. Then Harsik misses
Speaker 1: a forty three yard field goal. Jacoby burseet in, Ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen. At that moment, Terry mclaurin's twenty twenty three
Speaker 1: season began.
Speaker 3: That's right, my guys, Jacobe were set in the game,
Speaker 3: Skins go sixty seven yards five plays, breset to McLaurin
Speaker 3: for twenty nine eighty eight to fourteen Rams seven seventeen
Speaker 3: to go.
Speaker 1: Then after a Rams three and up, breset to McLaurin
Speaker 1: for sixteen to McLaurin for forty eight sets up. Washington
Speaker 1: at the Rams won with four forty seven to go
Speaker 1: in the game. Let me repeat that down fourteen Washington
Speaker 1: set up at the RAMS one with four forty seven
Speaker 1: to go. Sure, yep, this is easy. We all know
Speaker 1: what to do here. Gil. You know how long it
Speaker 1: took him to score that touchdown at one yard like
Speaker 1: eight plays, three minutes in one second on seven plays
Speaker 1: technically really nine because there were two pis.
Speaker 2: Oh there you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Finally Brisset to Samuel from three out. It literally
Speaker 1: was I think I have the sequence later when we
Speaker 1: talk about Washington, but it was just this unbelievable sequence
Speaker 1: where Washington showed no urgency whatsoever. Finally they scored with
Speaker 1: one forty six to go. Now you're down eight, ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen. Ron Rivera breset Samuel from three out, fourth
Speaker 1: and goal, by the way, on their second set of
Speaker 1: four downs. Then Ron Rivera, who has not gotten the
Speaker 1: eight to six memo.
Speaker 2: Like, did you not just watch Monday Night Football? Like
Speaker 2: shit that you missed it a whole six days before
Speaker 2: this game.
Speaker 1: I'n Rivera doesn't watch TV. He has a guy in
Speaker 1: the eight to six analytics memo. So instead of going
Speaker 1: for two, he decides to kick the pat which for you,
Speaker 1: and you're forty eight at that point. Oh, I'm back here, cheering,
Speaker 1: way to go, row boat Rod Poetry then ensues roll
Speaker 1: out the field goal unit. Because the low snap happens,
Speaker 1: the kick is blocked total Poetry, and you're still at
Speaker 1: forty eight. Then, with all three timeouts, Ron Rivera decides,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick the on side kick here. You got
Speaker 1: to anyway. They never get the ball back either way.
Speaker 1: Twenty eight to twenty Rams win the unders cash you lose.
Speaker 1: You're over the total and the spread both in play.
Speaker 1: On that final sequence, Ron Rivera laiz gentlemen, by the way,
Speaker 1: people who are like, oh, he'll never it's not a
Speaker 1: it's not a hot take that Ron Rivera's gonna get fired, lates, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: anybody you hear saying that it's a hot take. Everybody
Speaker 1: knows it's already out there. The second the season ends,
Speaker 1: he's fired. It's not a thing. I love those hot takes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, yeah, it's great. Everybody. Josh Harris is
Speaker 1: almost talking about it outwardly. Stafford twenty five of thirty
Speaker 1: three for two to fifty eight, two touchdowns, no picks.
Speaker 1: He was sacked three times. Kyron Williams twenty seven for
Speaker 1: one fifty touch but two fumbles, Cup eight for one
Speaker 1: eleven in a touchdown. They outgained Washington four forty five
Speaker 1: ninety seven. Puka Nakua last three games, Kelly, if he
Speaker 1: averages five and a half catches and one hundred and
Speaker 1: four yards, he sets the rookie records for both catches
Speaker 1: and yards five and a half and one oh four.
Speaker 1: Oh it sounds like a Rookie of the Year candidate.
Speaker 1: Not so much, apparently. Was it Saints at Rams by four? Ding?
Speaker 1: Ding Ding nailed it? Yeah, we are four across the
Speaker 1: board of because the Saints aren't good enough to keep
Speaker 1: it to three on that it's a ram.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is really perfect number because this is I
Speaker 2: would only be interested in the rams here, but not important.
Speaker 1: If Pooka set both records and c. J. Stroud didn't
Speaker 1: show up for the last three games. The se Stroud
Speaker 1: still there, still a rookie the year. No, I'm going
Speaker 1: to Coula then. By the way, Jamiir Gibbs also twenty one,
Speaker 1: same number as Fucus. Welcome back more guessing lines. Looking
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Speaker 1: It's Kelly Bidlin. Let me just ask you a question
Speaker 1: before we get back into these games. Kelly, I'm going
Speaker 1: to give you the favorite now for all seven NFL
Speaker 1: Awards categories. Okay, I don't want to know if you
Speaker 1: think they're not going to win or not. I just
Speaker 1: want you to tell me which what odds you think
Speaker 1: are the most outlanded? Okay, Purty now Rock Party minus
Speaker 1: one ninety for MVP. These are all DraftKings numbers. Stroud
Speaker 1: minus ten thousand Offensive Rookie the Year, Jalen Carter minus
Speaker 1: sixteen hundred Defensive Rookie of the Year. Christian McCaffrey minus
Speaker 1: won fifty for Offensive Player of the Year. Micah Parsons
Speaker 1: minus won ten Defensive Player of the Year. Dan Campbell
Speaker 1: plus two hundred two to one Coach of the Year.
Speaker 1: Damar Hamlin minus seven hundred. What is the most outlandish number?
Speaker 1: Not that they might not win, but what number do
Speaker 1: you think is the most out of whack. I still
Speaker 1: think it's Dan Campbell. It's either Campbell or Hamblin right,
Speaker 1: based on our conversation with uh, it's Campbell with shots,
Speaker 1: it's Campbell or Hamlin. Was thinking about going that way,
Speaker 1: but I didn't want to bring it up again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was talking about Shane Steich and by the way,
Speaker 1: and Jamago Ryans both at plus three fifty knocking at
Speaker 1: the dough.
Speaker 2: You are right, it is those two, though I don't
Speaker 2: care like that. That Lion's win was great Saturday night.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to it. We're gonna we're gonna talk
Speaker 2: about that was awesome for us. We both had bets
Speaker 2: on it. But I still don't understand the two to
Speaker 2: one with all these with all these other guys that
Speaker 2: you could make a case for.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Sunday. What do we got?
Speaker 2: We're on to Saturday Saturday, BA, let's go on Saturday
Speaker 2: this week too. Two on Saturday, one thirty Pacific time,
Speaker 2: four to thirty Eastern Bengals at the Steelers, Oh Bengals
Speaker 2: consecutive Saturdays, Pittsburgh consecutive Saturdays, six the eight and six
Speaker 2: Bengals and the seven and seven Steelers Bengals coming off
Speaker 2: an incredible win against the Vikings on Saturday.
Speaker 1: It was seven to three Minnesota. We'll pick it up.
Speaker 1: Their second quarter, Browning misses a wide open Charlie Jones
Speaker 1: deep first missed opportunity for the Bengals right there. Minnesota
Speaker 1: then matriculated third and nine at the Cincinnati fourteen Mullins
Speaker 1: picked by Mike Hilton with four h six left in
Speaker 1: the second quarter, and then after Cincinnati punt, Minnesota matriculated
Speaker 1: again third and seven at the Cincinnati twenty two, Mullin
Speaker 1: picked by E. J. Hill. And so it's still seven
Speaker 1: to three Minnesota at the half. They led in total
Speaker 1: yards one eighty eight to one oh one, but they
Speaker 1: were minus two and turnovers. Just sounded just like the
Speaker 1: game we just described with the Rams, but in this
Speaker 1: case the Vikings couldn't hold it. By the way, it
Speaker 1: is the whole Nick Mullins experience. Right Like you were like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's pretty good, he's pretty good. Oh no, he's not
Speaker 1: good yet. Rock out right yep. Third quarter Minnesota eight plays,
Speaker 1: ninety three yards, Mullins to Addison for thirty seven. Addison
Speaker 1: was everywhere in this game. Fourteen to three Vikings ten
Speaker 1: forty six left third quarter, then Cincinnati second and seven
Speaker 1: at their own forty Browning picked by a Caleb Evans
Speaker 1: that led to a Joseph field goal seventeen to three Minnesota,
Speaker 1: four thirty two left of the third quarter. All right,
Speaker 1: you're thinking Minnesota's rolling until they weren't. Cincinnati. Then Browning
Speaker 1: wakes up. Eight plays seventy five yards, Browning in the
Speaker 1: Higgins for thirteen first play the fourth quarter, seventeen to
Speaker 1: ten Minnesota, then a Minnesota three and out, then eleven
Speaker 1: plays sixty two yards for the Bengals, mixing in from
Speaker 1: one on fourth and goal. We're tied at seventeen with
Speaker 1: seven forty six to go, and then right after that
Speaker 1: second and ten at their own forty four Mullins looks
Speaker 1: like it's a pick six to Jermaine Prat, but nullified
Speaker 1: by Trey Hendrickson being offside and instead the Instead the
Speaker 1: Vikings take advantage. They matriculate Mullins to Addison from one
Speaker 1: out twenty four to seventeen, Vikings three forty eight to go. Well,
Speaker 1: it looks like the Vikings are gonna win it after all.
Speaker 1: New ten plays seventy five yard drive for the Bengals,
Speaker 1: Browning to Higgins for twenty one. What a catch, What
Speaker 1: a touchdown? Twenty four a piece, thirty nine seconds to
Speaker 1: go win this ballgame, then ot that's where it would go.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati three and out, blatant p I uncalled on third
Speaker 1: down deep intended for Higgins. Then Minnesota third and one
Speaker 1: at the Cincinnati forty one stuffed on a on a
Speaker 1: sneak attempt, and then fourth in inches Mullins stuffed again. Brutal,
Speaker 1: absolutely brutal where he like he did a Fred Flintstone
Speaker 1: thing with his legs. You know, when Fred Flintstone drives
Speaker 1: the car, we has a war bump. Remember that was
Speaker 1: it didn't get there. Cincinnati takes over six to twelve
Speaker 1: to go thirdy nine at the thrown forty three. Browning
Speaker 1: to Boyd for forty four sets up McPherson twenty nine
Speaker 1: yard field goal. Good. Bengals win it twenty seven to
Speaker 1: twenty four. That's a push for everybody, pretty much. Let
Speaker 1: me just review that game real quick. In one sentence,
Speaker 1: seventeen to three lead for the Vikings. They blow it,
Speaker 1: twenty four to seventeen lead. They blow it two quarterback
Speaker 1: sneaks to get one yard. They blow it. Total disaster.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is rough because, like you said, Addison Man,
Speaker 2: he had a great game. Finally looked like he was
Speaker 2: coming on. You know, I was a wide receiver this year.
Speaker 2: Chaidler had a big game. Chand had a huge game.
Speaker 2: Browning ended up twenty nine to forty two for three
Speaker 2: twenty four for the Bengals, two touchdowns, one pick and
Speaker 2: sack four times Bengals in the thick of it. Steeler's
Speaker 2: not in the thick of it right now. Steelers beating
Speaker 2: the Colt six to nothing. We'll pick it up there.
Speaker 2: Boswell missed a pat that's why it's six to nothing.
Speaker 2: Then Indianapols three and out, rigobertol Sunchez Punk blocked by
Speaker 2: Connor Heywood, recovered by Nick Herbert g at the one
Speaker 2: after Harris lost four yards.
Speaker 1: Story of this of Nazi's career here Deontae from five out,
Speaker 1: thirteen to nothing, Steelers fourteen oh seven left second quarter
Speaker 1: and then from there Kelly all Colts big Minshew to
Speaker 1: Pittman Junior forty two yard pickup on third and five
Speaker 1: of the Pittsburgh forty nine that set up a Minshew
Speaker 1: to mos sixteen yard touchdown Bass thirteen to seven Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: eleven twenty one left second quarter, then a first and
Speaker 1: eleven for Pittsburgh at the Indie forty five trubisky picked
Speaker 1: by Nick Cross. Indianapolis matriculates, but they get stuff third
Speaker 1: and gold to one incomplete, overthrown to Ogletree and then
Speaker 1: remember fourth and goal from the one Minshew to DJ
Speaker 1: Montgomery just flats out drops it, so you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, maybe the Pittsburgh Magic Beans thing is
Speaker 1: happening with Tomlin. But Pittsburgh punts, and then Indianapolis starts
Speaker 1: at their own twenty six with forty four seconds left
Speaker 1: in the half. They go seventy seven yards in twenty
Speaker 1: two seconds, three plays to Montgomery for thirty four, a
Speaker 1: twenty six yard PI incomplete to Montgomery and then incomplete
Speaker 1: and then Montgomery for fourteen touchdown, So the Colts led
Speaker 1: by one at the half. After in Indianapolis three and out,
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh first intent at their own ten nase hit by E. J. Speedy,
Speaker 1: fumbles recovered by Julian Blackman that led to a Minshew
Speaker 1: alley Cock touchdown from eighteen yards out twenty one to thirteen.
Speaker 1: Then after Pittsburgh three and out. Indianapol's fourth and one
Speaker 1: at Pittsburgh eleven. They settle. You know, this is also
Speaker 1: the difference in coaching, right, Steichen is like, Okay, we're
Speaker 1: up eight, it's fourth and one at the eleventh, let
Speaker 1: me just kick a field goal here to go, but eleven,
Speaker 1: I'm not allergic to field goals. Twenty four to thirteen.
Speaker 1: Colts contrast that with the next Pittsburgh drive were instead
Speaker 1: of trying to kick a fifty seven yard field goal
Speaker 1: from Boswell, they cut it to a one score game.
Speaker 1: Tomlin with three twenty seven left of the third quarters like, nah,
Speaker 1: I'm just punt. What the hell was that? Especially when
Speaker 1: Boswell ran out onto the fields. Boswell couldn't believe it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Indianapols would get another Matt Gay field goal to make
Speaker 1: it twenty seven to thirteen, and then Trubisky this first
Speaker 1: intent at the Indianapolis forty nine. They're down fourteen. Horrific
Speaker 1: pick to Julian Blackman. Matt Gay would link of forty
Speaker 1: three yard field goal. After that, Mason Rudolph would come
Speaker 1: in the game. They're still down two scores, four and
Speaker 1: out With Mason Rudolph, Matt Gate would add another field
Speaker 1: goal thirty to thirteen. That's your ballgame. Indianapolis outgains Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: three seventy two to two sixteen. Pittsburgh was minus three
Speaker 1: and turnovers that led to plus seven net Indianapolis points.
Speaker 1: Drubisky sixteen of twenty three for one sixty nine, one touchdown,
Speaker 1: two picks, three sacks, two carries for one yard and
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Cincinnati at Pittsburgh split the difference between the
Speaker 1: three and the pick, I'm Cincinnati by one and a half. Yep,
Speaker 1: pretty close.
Speaker 2: It is Bengals two and a half at DraftKings two
Speaker 2: to two and a half.
Speaker 1: Pretty much everywhere in the work for your I remember
Speaker 1: your pre flop bets this season. You were under on
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh on lots of stuff.
Speaker 2: Under nine wins and under alt under seven and a half.
Speaker 1: Still alive, Gil. They were seven and four and they
Speaker 1: had home games. I believe it was against Arizona and
Speaker 1: New England and they lost them by yep. And now
Speaker 1: not only are your bets all in play, but Mike
Speaker 1: Tomlin's stat that we all joke that we all joke
Speaker 1: about because it's like, oh, I've never heard that before,
Speaker 1: which we've heard a million times. For that to remain intact,
Speaker 1: meaning to never have a losing season, the Steelers have
Speaker 1: to go one to one in one the rest of
Speaker 1: the way, Well, they better get that one in the
Speaker 1: win column in this one, because the other two are
Speaker 1: road games at Seattle and at Baltimore, and unless Baltimore
Speaker 1: doesn't have anything to play for, chalk that one up
Speaker 1: as a loss. We're gonna assume. You can't really assume
Speaker 1: anything in this.
Speaker 2: League, but you get the idea can't and then I
Speaker 2: mean Seattle, I mean, you know, trying to project what
Speaker 2: their health is going to look like next week when
Speaker 2: we don't even know about, you know, eight hours from now,
Speaker 2: what it's.
Speaker 1: Gonna look like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe maybe I'm confident on the under nine. I'm
Speaker 2: confident on that one.
Speaker 1: Gil Cincinnati right now in playoff position. Pittsburgh not by
Speaker 1: the way you bring up tonight's game, we have no
Speaker 1: idea who's playing quarterback for either team, either Seahawks and Eagles.
Speaker 1: And really weird.
Speaker 2: I'm sure everybody cont it over the weekend, but I mean,
Speaker 2: I thought Gino was scaling up at the end of
Speaker 2: last week, and now it sounds like he is very questionable.
Speaker 2: Maybe even unlikely to go for Seattle, and then Jalen
Speaker 2: Hurts we got the news yesterday morning was going to
Speaker 2: be put on his own plane to go up to
Speaker 2: Seattle because of the illness that he is going through,
Speaker 2: and it got worse over the weekend.
Speaker 1: A little bit more positive.
Speaker 2: Reports coming out this morning sounded like he's gonna probably
Speaker 2: try to go here. But I mean, right now, we
Speaker 2: don't know who's playing quarterback for either one.
Speaker 1: Right now Eagles favored by three and a half or
Speaker 1: three depending on where you're looking, totally at forty five,
Speaker 1: but yeah, no starting quarterbacking note, by the way, I
Speaker 1: had a ridiculous trivia question which I'd like you to
Speaker 1: ponder without googling. Okay, it's the one NFL team whose
Speaker 1: mascot faces left, whose mascot faces left coming backboard, guesting lines, numbers,
Speaker 1: game vs. In these sports betting network it's Skill Alexander.
Speaker 1: It's Kelly Bidlittle from Bark Canada at the D By
Speaker 1: the way, I didn't mean mascot. I'm met logo of course,
Speaker 1: right which NFL team's logo faces left? And it's the
Speaker 1: only one, And Kelly is just going nuts trying to
Speaker 1: figure this out.
Speaker 2: So it's a really good one because you got to
Speaker 2: think through like all the different logos and how many
Speaker 2: of them are just like face forward, which is a
Speaker 2: lot of them.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's obviously not the Cowboys star right, it's
Speaker 1: like like the Steelers emblo, right, you know, or even
Speaker 1: like Chicago Bears. Right, the bear just faces forward. What's
Speaker 1: so funny about it is we watch thousands upon tens
Speaker 1: of millions of hours of football. These things stare at
Speaker 1: us at all time, but we don't process and process
Speaker 1: them at all.
Speaker 2: Okay, you heard me saying about three times during the break,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty confident it's a bird.
Speaker 1: So I think it's a bird. Okay.
Speaker 2: I also think because you led me into the question
Speaker 2: after we brought up Monday night football, there's a good
Speaker 2: chance it has to do with one of those birds.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go with the Philadelphia Eagles, got it?
Speaker 1: Really? Yes, Eagle's the only one that faces left. I
Speaker 1: was gonna I don't know why that is, By the way,
Speaker 1: why are they the only ones that decided to face
Speaker 1: that direction? I have no idea. I don't know. Now
Speaker 1: did they did they update?
Speaker 2: They updated the logo right when the team like updated uniforms.
Speaker 1: Yes, so that's a good.
Speaker 2: So they didn't stick as as traditional. Maybe they thought
Speaker 2: they were being cool and Wavelet's.
Speaker 1: Do some games. You got it, well done, good deductive reasoning.
Speaker 1: That's not had to be a bird.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go Saturday Night Bill's at Chargers, Bill's
Speaker 2: eight Eastern Saturday Night.
Speaker 1: The eight and six Bills crushing the Cowboys. Yesterday at
Speaker 1: the five and nine Chargers. The Bills still on the
Speaker 1: outside looking in, but again the proverbial team no one
Speaker 1: wants to play in the playoffs. Buffalo opening drive yesterday,
Speaker 1: I think this gets lost. In this game against the
Speaker 1: I was twelve plays, seventy five yards extended by roughing
Speaker 1: the passer call onto Marcus Lawrence on third and four
Speaker 1: to six, which would have forced a field goal try
Speaker 1: had that not happened. Instead, new set of downs, Murray
Speaker 1: in from two, seven to nothing Buffalo. Then after Dallas
Speaker 1: punt in a Buffalo three and out, Dallas three and
Speaker 1: out Buffalo punts, but roughing the kicker on Sam Williams
Speaker 1: extends the drive. Six plays later, Alan to James Cook
Speaker 1: from eighteen out, fourteen to nothing. So really it could
Speaker 1: have been three to nothing at that point. Instead it's
Speaker 1: fourteen to nothing Buffalo, twelve fifty two left and second quarter.
Speaker 1: Aubrey does get a thirty two yard field goal he
Speaker 1: never misses, has never missed. Fourteen to three Buffalo, seven
Speaker 1: thirteen left and the second quarter, then second and six
Speaker 1: at the Buffalo forty. Allen to Diggs for seven. Remember
Speaker 1: though he actually fumbled, but there's no challenge, even though
Speaker 1: Dallas recovered and Buffalo got the next playoff quick, so
Speaker 1: they took advantage. They matriculated Alan in from one, completing
Speaker 1: an eleven place seventy six yard drive twenty one to
Speaker 1: three Buffalo, So you could argue that seventeen Buffalo points
Speaker 1: because of the mistakes on the Cowboys part happened just
Speaker 1: because of Cowboys' mistakes. Buffalo, by the way, two ten
Speaker 1: to eighty nine, totally yards advantage. In the first half.
Speaker 1: Dak was six of thirteen for forty three. Would be
Speaker 1: MVP candidate. Not so much anymore. Third quarter, after Dallas
Speaker 1: punt long, Buffalo driver James Cook dropped a wide open
Speaker 1: pass would be dropping wide open, would be touchdown passed
Speaker 1: from Allen on third and goal from five. They settled
Speaker 1: for a bass twenty three yard field goal that made
Speaker 1: it twenty four to three, but then another Dallas three
Speaker 1: at out Buffalo sixty seven yard six place cook in
Speaker 1: from twenty four thirty one to three with twelve thirty
Speaker 1: to go. Then Dallas fourth and five at their own
Speaker 1: forty eight dak pick by Christian Benford. Dallas would add
Speaker 1: a garbage touchdown and make it thirty one to ten
Speaker 1: with two forty five to go, and then they don't
Speaker 1: bother on side kicking, which was strained because you strained
Speaker 1: because you still had all your starters in down twenty eight,
Speaker 1: like let's risk injury, and then once we score the touchdown,
Speaker 1: let's not even bother on side kicking. It was a
Speaker 1: little weird. It's like you wanted them to get practice
Speaker 1: or something. Josh Allen seven completed forward passes seven of
Speaker 1: fifteen for ninety four because they didn't need to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one touchdown, no picks. He was sack ones eight carries
Speaker 1: or twenty four hours a touchdown. James Cook though, my god,
Speaker 1: twenty five for one seventy nine and a touchdown, two
Speaker 1: catches for forty two and a touchdown. They had gain
Speaker 1: Dallas three fifty one to one ninety five two sixty
Speaker 1: six to eighty nine on the ground Buffalo at the
Speaker 1: Chargers in Easton stick minus ten and a half. You
Speaker 1: are light, am I wow?
Speaker 2: I thought I was like being frisky. Uh fourteen? What
Speaker 2: graft case? It is thirteen and a half most.
Speaker 1: H You're probably right it should be that high. I
Speaker 1: mean now that I think about it, right, Yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 1: watch me ten and a half. All right, that's probably right.
Speaker 2: The dynamic MVP markets as you as we brought up
Speaker 2: last week, Man, was that that incredible to watch during
Speaker 2: those games yesterday? Only kind of like as you mentioned
Speaker 2: about Josh Allen at the end of this game. I
Speaker 2: don't think we should be crushing Dak too much either
Speaker 2: though this week, just because he almost never had a chance.
Speaker 1: He barely had the ball first half, but well then
Speaker 1: it was like he was so far behind. I'll read
Speaker 1: some cleave Ta stats about Dak going into tough defenses.
Speaker 1: It doesn't look good for that. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: Okay, Sunday morning, we're on two now, so Sunday early
Speaker 2: window Colts at Falcons.
Speaker 1: Minshew, And that Colts win against the Steelers on Saturday
Speaker 1: was eighteen of twenty eight for two to fifteen, three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no picks, a sack three times again, Indianapolis out gain
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh three seventy two to two sixteen. Indy was plus
Speaker 1: three and turnovers though led to plus seven net Indianapolis points.
Speaker 1: Atlanta loses to the Panthers. It's the eight and six
Speaker 1: Colts against the six and eight Panthers. By the way,
Speaker 1: the six and eight Falcons. Pardon me the Falcons both
Speaker 1: teams against the Panthers, now Falcons. Both teams started the
Speaker 1: game with fourth down stops of opposing offenses. They traded
Speaker 1: three and outs and the Atlanta punt, then the Carolina three out,
Speaker 1: then Atlanta three out. You get the idea punt, punt,
Speaker 1: three and outs whatever. Finally Atlanta ritterded john who for
Speaker 1: fifty six. Two plays later rittid Or Patterson from two out,
Speaker 1: seven and nothing, Falcons four forty nine left in the
Speaker 1: second quarter in a downpour, an absolute deluge. Biblical Pinero
Speaker 1: would have a field goal before the half, seven to
Speaker 1: three Atlanta. Then, after a trade of punts in the
Speaker 1: third quarter and another Carolina punt, Atlanta third and ten
Speaker 1: at their own twenty and here's where it just went
Speaker 1: to crap. For those of us who had the Falcons
Speaker 1: Bijon tackled by Troy Hill, he fumbles. The only thing
Speaker 1: you have to do, Falcons is not make mistakes. Instead
Speaker 1: the fumbles, Brian Burns recovers that led to a Pinero
Speaker 1: twenty five yard field goal seven to six, Atlanta thirteen
Speaker 1: thirty two to go. Then Atlanta matriculate second and ten
Speaker 1: at the Carolina eighteen Ritter picked by Xavier what's terrible pass?
Speaker 1: Seven thirty five to go. If there's one thing Carolina
Speaker 1: has been able to do this year which you can
Speaker 1: put a check in the positive column, it's that every
Speaker 1: once in a while they have this really ridiculous long
Speaker 1: like eighteen play drive. Well, guess what, that's exactly what
Speaker 1: they did. Atlanta would never see the ball again. Carolina
Speaker 1: starts at their own five seventeen play drive. Pinnero twenty
Speaker 1: three yard field goal to win it nine to seven.
Speaker 1: Ritter twelve of twenty for one fifty two in defeat.
Speaker 1: The Falcons minus two in turnovers that led to plus
Speaker 1: six net Carolina points. That's all they needed, nine to seven.
Speaker 1: I'll say Indianapolis split the difference between the three and
Speaker 1: the pick of minus one and a half on the road.
Speaker 2: Yep, they are two DraftKings right now. It is anywhere
Speaker 2: between one and a half and two.
Speaker 1: Pretty much everywhere.
Speaker 2: One more al rows, do one more early window on Sunday,
Speaker 2: Seahawks at Titan six and seven.
Speaker 1: Seahawks who play Tonight's sight unseen? We don't know who
Speaker 1: the starter is. At Tennessee, Tennessee, coming off that unbelievable
Speaker 1: win against the Dolphins, well, guess what, Tennessee. You gave
Speaker 1: one right back after a Houston three and alf against Tennessee,
Speaker 1: Tennessee goes eighty three yards eleven plays, levis in from one,
Speaker 1: six to nothing. Tennessee folk missed the pat after trade
Speaker 1: uponts Houston thirty ten at their own forty Keenum case
Speaker 1: Keenum getting the start in this game picked by Elijah
Speaker 1: Molden forty five yards of the hiszy thirteen to nothing
Speaker 1: Tennessee and everybody in survivor who had them, including our
Speaker 1: own Allan Burke, Adam Burke, pardon me just loving it?
Speaker 1: Thirteen and nothing. But then after a trade of punts,
Speaker 1: fairbar twenty three yard field goal thirteen to three at
Speaker 1: a half. Okay, no big deal. After a Tennessee punt
Speaker 1: to start the third quarter, Fairburn twenty seven yard field
Speaker 1: goal thirteen to six, Tennessee six twenty seven left the
Speaker 1: third quarter, Okay, no big deal. Then after another Tennessee
Speaker 1: three and out Fairbairn fifty three yard field goal thirteen
Speaker 1: to nine, Tennessee uh oh two forty two left third quarter.
Speaker 1: Folk would get a field goal to make it sixteen
Speaker 1: to nine, So Tennessee is up a touchdown. Pardon me,
Speaker 1: seven to twenty two to go. Houston matriculate second and
Speaker 1: ten of the Tennessee eighteen. Poor decision by Keenum. Looks
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be picked snatched by Schultz from Roger
Speaker 1: mccurrie's hands for a first and goal. Unbelievable play by Schultz.
Speaker 1: Three plays later, Keenum and Noah Brown from three out.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? We're tied at sixteen with three
Speaker 1: zero three to go. Teams trade punts. Tennessee would get
Speaker 1: the ball back with forty five seconds to go, but
Speaker 1: we go to overtime. Overtime Tennessee punt Houston three and out.
Speaker 1: Tennessee starts at their own thirty seven with four to
Speaker 1: fifteen to go. Third and eight at their own forty
Speaker 1: nine with two minutes to go, is sacked by Desmond
Speaker 1: King he got hurt. They wouldn't show the replay. They
Speaker 1: have to punt Houston with their own that starts at
Speaker 1: their own twenty with one forty three to go in overtime,
Speaker 1: Keenum under duress to Singletary for forty one. Then after
Speaker 1: it would be Singletary touchdown run that was a nullified
Speaker 1: by a hold fairband from fifty four good Houston nineteen
Speaker 1: Tennessee sixteen Billy Levi seventeen of twenty six in defeat
Speaker 1: for one ninety nine, no touchdowns, one pick, and he
Speaker 1: was sack seven times, four carries for twenty five in
Speaker 1: a touchdown. They were outgained by Houston three forty to
Speaker 1: two oh four Seattle minus three. I guess as a placeholder,
Speaker 1: but I have no idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's two and a half everywhere, which is at Tennessee.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is yeah, nothing I'm doing with this
Speaker 2: before tonight, But two and a half feels a little light.
Speaker 1: Actually to me.
Speaker 2: If Gino's gonna go, I actually think this will probably
Speaker 2: be a Seattle.
Speaker 1: Play for me. But we'll just so tough to know
Speaker 1: before a game time, gotta wait this one night. We
Speaker 1: have no idea what's going on. So Ryan McDowell, Derek Henry,
Speaker 1: first player in NFL history to have at least twenty
Speaker 1: touches in a game and produce less than fifteen yards
Speaker 1: from scrimmage. Incredible, storied Hall of Fame career. And he
Speaker 1: has to have that little note attached. Yeah, they gotta
Speaker 1: get him out of Tennessee, that's for sure. Kind of
Speaker 1: on the downside already you think, I mean running backs,
Speaker 1: Shelf Libra. I don't love anything yet, We'll come back.
Speaker 1: More guessing lines. Week sixteen in the National Football League,
Speaker 1: it's a numbers game. Aleson's Gil Alexander, Kelly Binlin. Are
Speaker 1: the Pistons ever gonna win again? Kelly Ever? Yes, they
Speaker 1: will win. Stepping out on limbit right, they will win.
Speaker 1: They love twenty three in a row. Now, is it?
Speaker 1: What is it? I think it's I think it's more
Speaker 1: than that, is it? Yeah? I think so. And they're
Speaker 1: getting crushed in every game, they really are. It's it's
Speaker 1: unfortunate because there's some pieces there. The opinions. One of
Speaker 1: the great primetime action moments two and twenty four, Right,
Speaker 1: now twenty three in row. One of the great Primetime
Speaker 1: action moments may rest in pace that show is when
Speaker 1: Kelly and Matt Brown this is two years ago. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: this like went on for like three minutes about the
Speaker 1: Pistons and how finally at the end of this three
Speaker 1: minutes I was expecting on the stage and they're like,
Speaker 1: I think within two years they're gonna make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Even that I actually called out you guys, like, really,
Speaker 1: that's what you came up with that for those three minutes.
Speaker 1: What a bold.
Speaker 2: Thing, conversation. We've been a prediction for three years down
Speaker 2: the wide. All right, we have an answer to the Eagles.
Speaker 2: Why the Eagles face left from Primetime? At Primetime underscore bets,
Speaker 2: He says, I think the Eagles face left because the
Speaker 2: feathers make the letter E for Eagles, Jay Buckley. The
Speaker 2: flare off the eagle's head vaguely resembles an e have
Speaker 2: a great day from your friends in New Hampshire. Thank you,
Speaker 2: Jay and Danny Road. He says, look at the Eagles
Speaker 2: logo just one more time. The e exists a long
Speaker 2: right hand side. Is the wings spread?
Speaker 1: I guess?
Speaker 2: So, I mean, like I guess so in the sense of,
Speaker 2: like you know, when someone's like, hey, look.
Speaker 1: At that cloud, doesn't it look like a dog?
Speaker 2: And you're like, exactly, I guess so that since you
Speaker 2: go to the dispenser and then afterwards that looks like
Speaker 2: an e Like if the eagles were really trying to
Speaker 2: make this look like an eve, then I've missed the
Speaker 2: point of this.
Speaker 1: For however long since they changed this loan totally, Like
Speaker 1: if you ever once, no, not once. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of logos, like in Corporate America where there's stuff hidden
Speaker 1: in that I that I've not been aware of, Like
Speaker 1: you know, like in FedEx there's an arrow. Someone had
Speaker 1: to know. Someone had to point that out to me.
Speaker 1: But that's clear and obvious. Okay, so this is the
Speaker 1: only only one I came up with.
Speaker 2: Are we is the sword facing right, so it's not
Speaker 2: the flag facing left.
Speaker 1: Say, an animal facing left? I don't know. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't love a flag.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you could argue this is just the
Speaker 2: sword is facing right right, so the flag drag drags
Speaker 2: behind it.
Speaker 1: The he's pretty lame though, on the right of the
Speaker 1: eagles one.
Speaker 2: If that's the actual case, then I have missed that
Speaker 2: missed the entirety of sins whenever they changed that logo like.
Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety six. Doesn't the Milwaukee Brewers logo have
Speaker 1: some hidden thing as well, like MB's in there or
Speaker 1: something like that. Oh, I don't know the uh.
Speaker 2: It was like the Golden Knights do right, Like it
Speaker 2: took me like what three years they do.
Speaker 1: Thinking about this? Right, I go to look at there.
Speaker 1: I can't believe we're doing this. Let's do this.
Speaker 2: Let's do a couple of games. The helmet's a V
Speaker 2: with the Golden Knights, I missed. It took me like
Speaker 2: two years to figure that out.
Speaker 1: The helmet, Yeah, the helmet's a V. I see that.
Speaker 1: It took me forever figure Yeah, yeah, that one for sure.
Speaker 1: That's the actual logo. All right, what's next? Oh man?
Speaker 1: All right? Heck did we leave off early window lions
Speaker 1: at Vikings Detroit ten and four, Viking seven and seven? Uh,
Speaker 1: Vikings still on the inside of the playoff picture Detroit
Speaker 1: crushes Denver. And again this is one of the things
Speaker 1: that we got right last week, which is all this
Speaker 1: weird love for the Broncos and Sean Paynon y' all know,
Speaker 1: is plus twelve and turnover differential right for those four games,
Speaker 1: the last four of their five game winning streak, and
Speaker 1: they just beat Easton Stick. People really want to catapult
Speaker 1: this team, and they do have an easy schedule down
Speaker 1: the road, so it still could happen for the postseason.
Speaker 1: But Detroit crushed them. Eight plays eighty yards golf to
Speaker 1: Laporter for nineteen all laporta seven to nothing, Detroit twelve
Speaker 1: thirty one left second quarter after Denver three and out.
Speaker 1: Detroit six plays sixty one yards goff to Gibbs from
Speaker 1: nine out fourteen to nothing, Lions eight to fifteen left.
Speaker 1: Second quarter after another Denver punt, Detroit eleven plays eighty
Speaker 1: one yards goff to Saint Brown for fifteen twenty one
Speaker 1: to nothing. Detroit at the half halftime stats two seventy
Speaker 1: nine to seventy five in total yards in favor of
Speaker 1: the Lions, seventeen to four in first downs. Third quarter.
Speaker 1: Then Denver wakes up ten play seventy five yards Wilson
Speaker 1: to little Jordan Humphrey, you name your kid, Little Jordan
Speaker 1: Kelly from three out twenty one to seven. Denver ten
Speaker 1: thirty four left third quarter, but the Lions answered right back.
Speaker 1: Eight play seventy five yards goff to Laporter from three
Speaker 1: twenty eight to seven, seven and one left in the
Speaker 1: third quarter. Then the sequence of the game, and again
Speaker 1: keep in mind I'm on Detroit and this is ridiculous
Speaker 1: to watch. Denver matriculates second and goal at the nine.
Speaker 1: Wilson to McGlaughlin, ruled that the ball didn't cross the plane.
Speaker 1: It might have, but I'm willing to say it didn't.
Speaker 1: Third and gold the doorstep.
Speaker 2: This has been the one sticking point between me and
Speaker 2: Gill all year.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this with rule we have a different sid
Speaker 1: I almost texted you about this, Kelly, and I see
Speaker 1: the plane differently. Then third and gold the doorstep. Javontae
Speaker 1: Williams is ruled down short. He was clearly in fourth
Speaker 1: and goal of phantom off side called on Denver and
Speaker 1: Peyton decides to kick it to cut the lead from
Speaker 1: twenty one to eighteen. He's Peyton is so enraged at
Speaker 1: this point that he's like, I just kicked the villa.
Speaker 1: He's screaming at Russell Willis and say this is when
Speaker 1: he's screaming at russ When he's screaming at Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: for why are you kicking the field goal twenty eight
Speaker 1: to ten forty three seconds leven third quarter. By the way, also,
Speaker 1: I also disagreed with Gene state that thought the second
Speaker 1: downplay was a touchdown on the third downplay might not
Speaker 1: have been. I saw it the opposite. I saw it
Speaker 1: a little bit the opposite too.
Speaker 2: I'm actually surprised to hear though you were so strong
Speaker 2: on it, because this is why I almost texted you,
Speaker 2: because I thought, in my mind, I said, I think
Speaker 2: both of those are touchdowns, but I'm not sure, and
Speaker 2: I'm okay with both of these, both of these staying there.
Speaker 1: I was okay with one of them, but the second
Speaker 1: one to the third downplay was such a touch.
Speaker 2: In my mind was like, I'm okay with both of
Speaker 2: these not being touchdowns, but I'm Mike, I bet you
Speaker 2: GOI doesn't think they're touchdowns, but ones that I saw.
Speaker 1: Earlier in the year were way more obvious than either
Speaker 1: one of these. Anyway. Detroit Sigurd gives it from twelve
Speaker 1: to make it thirty five to ten, then Denver down
Speaker 1: twenty five with eleven h four. Togo Sean Payton decided
Speaker 1: a punt fourth and ten at their own forty four Okay,
Speaker 1: Denver would score well Denver after a p Ryan game
Speaker 1: twelve and fourth and one Wilson in from one thirty
Speaker 1: five to seventeen, but then Detroit would answer again forty
Speaker 1: two to seventeen Laporte's third touchdown of the game from
Speaker 1: ten out. That would be it four forty eight to
Speaker 1: two eighty seven. Total. The yards advantage for Detroit Golf
Speaker 1: twenty four thirty four for two to seventy eight, five touchdowns,
Speaker 1: five no picks, two sacks, Gibbs eleven for one hundred
Speaker 1: and a touchdown on the ground, two catches for eight
Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown, Saint Brown seven for one twelve
Speaker 1: in a touchdown, laport of five of fifty six and
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, and Minnesota, by the way, who they're playing
Speaker 1: In defeat against the Bengals, Mullins ended up twenty six
Speaker 1: of thirty three for three to Zho three, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: two horrible picks, three sacks, Chandler twenty three for one
Speaker 1: thirty two in a touchdown we touched on a Merlier
Speaker 1: and Addison six for one eleven and two touchdowns. I
Speaker 1: will say Detroit minus two and a half not quite
Speaker 1: the three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is three and a half. Just ticked up
Speaker 2: to a draft case. It is three basically everywhere else.
Speaker 2: If you're interested in getting in this one, now shop around.
Speaker 2: There are threes, but there are threes one oh five
Speaker 2: up to one twenty five out there.
Speaker 1: Next all right, next up, we have the.
Speaker 2: Why do I keep losing my plays?
Speaker 1: Gosh? Coming under one? Jets? You got one job here?
Speaker 1: Uh four and ten commodes five and nine Jets. Pearls
Speaker 1: and I talked about this yesterday on the We texted.
Speaker 1: We both agree that Jets have to be favorites. There
Speaker 1: Washington Howell and defeat eleven for twenty six or one
Speaker 1: oh two, one touchdown, one pick. He was sacked once.
Speaker 1: Berset in relief eight of ten for one to twenty four,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, no picks, no sacks. Terry McLaurin became incomparable
Speaker 1: again as soon as Jacoby Brissett entered the game six
Speaker 1: for one for one in a touchdown. Uh. They were
Speaker 1: outgained by the Rams four forty five to two ninety seven,
Speaker 1: and again that sequence from four to forty seven to
Speaker 1: one forty six no gain, no gain offensive pi four
Speaker 1: yard pass at defensive PI two yard rush incobleed, incableed
Speaker 1: touchdown took three minutes and one second off the clock,
Speaker 1: and then they got the extra point blocked. Why are
Speaker 1: you going to the extra point? The Jets get crushed
Speaker 1: by the Dolphins. Tyreek ruled out before this game. Wadald
Speaker 1: got hurt on the game's opening drive. You thought they'd
Speaker 1: be without both, but he would return. First sequence. After
Speaker 1: a Miami punt, Jets first and ten their own twenty four,
Speaker 1: Wilson sacked by Bradley Chubb and Christian Wilkins. He fumbles
Speaker 1: zag Zealer recovers three plays later, mosted in from two
Speaker 1: seven to nothing Miami his nineteenth touchout of the season,
Speaker 1: and the route was on because the Jets, then down
Speaker 1: seven in punt formation, decided to snap to the up back.
Speaker 1: Ashton Davis stuffed for a one yard loss on fourth
Speaker 1: and fourth their own forty two That was set up
Speaker 1: a Sanders field goal to make it ten to nothing.
Speaker 1: Tradings of three and outs and stuff, Miami would end
Speaker 1: up first and ten at their own forty two at
Speaker 1: a waddle for sixty seventeen to nothing, seven forty two
Speaker 1: left in the second quarter. At that point, it was
Speaker 1: one thirty two to minus one in total yards. Wilson
Speaker 1: was three of seven for twenty one. Miami would then
Speaker 1: go eighty yards and eleven plays after Jets punt mostered
Speaker 1: in from one twenty four to nothing. Late second quarter,
Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon would come in because Wilson got banged up.
Speaker 1: Halftime one ninety seven to four. Passing was one sixty
Speaker 1: to minus ten. It's really all you need to know.
Speaker 1: Because Simeon played in the second half, the league just
Speaker 1: kept going up. He added another pick I believe in
Speaker 1: there in a fumble ball game. As the Dolphins win
Speaker 1: at thirty to nothing. It's really all you need to know.
Speaker 1: I don't need to go through the details. Wilson ended
Speaker 1: up four of eleven for twenty six, Simeon fourteen for
Speaker 1: twenty six for one to ten. Dolphins out gained the
Speaker 1: Jets two ninety to one oh three. The Jets were
Speaker 1: minus four and turnovers led to plus ten Miami points.
Speaker 1: I'll say the Jets by three over Washington. You are
Speaker 1: not required to watch this NFL game three pretty much everywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think that's right because the Jets defense will
Speaker 1: by far be the best unit on the field. Even
Speaker 1: though the Skins offense can do damage. But Washington's defense
Speaker 1: as bad as the Jets offense is. It's a weakness
Speaker 1: against weakness. I mean, it's take your pick. I mean
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be Jets minus three, no matter
Speaker 1: how he's slicing up Washington. Going back to Sam Howe Jets,
Speaker 1: we don't really know Lebatar, Dan LeBatard. Next on the
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Speaker 1: to get to here. Guessing Lines Week sixteen. Only three
Speaker 1: games left in the regular season. How did this happen?
Speaker 2: It's wild? You know, every every year it sneaks up
Speaker 2: on you like this.
Speaker 1: It's incredible. Once you hit like Thanksgiving, it just goes.
Speaker 1: It feels like turbo. At that point we get tweets
Speaker 1: at beating the book. Cleve Ta, who is one of
Speaker 1: the great NFL follows there is. He was kind enough
Speaker 1: to be on the megapod earlier this year. We had
Speaker 1: him during brock Purty propaganda week. He's got a pretty
Speaker 1: ticket as well. He points out Dak MVP candidacy is
Speaker 1: unserious at this point. Now his face two top fourteen
Speaker 1: EPA pass defenses on the road, his EPA, and how
Speaker 1: that game ranked versus all other quarterbacks against those defenses
Speaker 1: this season against Buffalo yesterday minus zero point one five
Speaker 1: nine expected points in this one, and that is an
Speaker 1: EPA that is generous due to garbage time stats in
Speaker 1: the last eight minutes, and then versus San Francisco minus
Speaker 1: point four to zero EPA. So, by the way, there's
Speaker 1: eleven to fourteen and fourteenth out of fourteen in those situations.
Speaker 1: And he I will agree with what he says also,
Speaker 1: which is, if brock Purty has a great game against
Speaker 1: Baltimore this week, Katie bar the door. Yeah, probably Katie
Speaker 1: barred the door.
Speaker 2: The Uh, I don't even think you need to go
Speaker 2: right now, at least right now.
Speaker 1: And I don't even really I don't know. He could
Speaker 1: have an opportunity this.
Speaker 2: Week to maybe make up for a little bit, but
Speaker 2: I think right now you don't even have to say, like,
Speaker 2: you don't even have to say dak against good teams.
Speaker 1: On the road, just dack on the road, Dack on
Speaker 1: the road, I mean jack on the roads. Pat, we'll
Speaker 1: get to those Cowboys stats, but they're seven and zero
Speaker 1: at home and three and four on the road, and
Speaker 1: like the point differentials unbelievable. I also made the mistake
Speaker 1: of bringing up that that logo trivia question, because now
Speaker 1: that's all anybody wants to talk about. Mantis, Toboggan. What
Speaker 1: about the browns helmet, he said. Andrew R. Demirz said
Speaker 1: Falcon's logo resembles the letter F.
Speaker 2: That's a thing too. I mean I just googled all these,
Speaker 2: he said, These eagles, the Eagles and Falcons thing is
Speaker 2: a thing.
Speaker 1: Someone created that logo to look like an Ian and
Speaker 1: F with with the in the F in mind, and
Speaker 1: we were supposed to get that, apparently, Esse Jesse Welch,
Speaker 1: I kid you not though he didn't use the word kid, Kelly,
Speaker 1: he said, I just deduced the exact same answers as
Speaker 1: you on the mascot question, got to be a bird?
Speaker 1: Gil brought up money N football going with the Eagles.
Speaker 1: That was insane. John Balduzzi, Yes, he is corroborating what
Speaker 1: I was saying. Old school Brewer's logo is the initials
Speaker 1: m NB for Milwaukee Brewers. Titans insider My buddy for
Speaker 1: ten years could not see the bear of the Minnesota
Speaker 1: Wild logo until I mentioned it to him. So anyway,
Speaker 1: there's nothing, But there's nothing but logo. Let me do
Speaker 1: non logo questions or tweets rather. Jeff Levine, Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: if I'm right, the Ravens just have to beat Miami
Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh at home to be the AFC number one seed.
Speaker 1: Would you rest the limping offensive tackles and maybe others
Speaker 1: at San Francisco to get ready for the stretch run.
Speaker 1: Mitchell injury a killer. Let me, I was gonna bring
Speaker 1: this up when we get to Baltimore. The Keaton Mitchell
Speaker 1: injury yesterday for the Baltimore Ravens, to me, is the
Speaker 1: most impactful and significant injury of the weekend in the
Speaker 1: NFL and might get ready for this comment. Might be
Speaker 1: the difference between the Ravens winning a Super Bowl or
Speaker 1: getting to a Super Bowl and not. He is there
Speaker 1: only besides Lamar, of course, they're only reliably explosive player
Speaker 1: on that offense. They will not have Keith Mitchell, who
Speaker 1: who got hurt in a non contact injury yesterday. They
Speaker 1: will not have him for the rest of the year.
Speaker 1: That is a massive blow to the Baltimore Yeah.
Speaker 2: I wish, I wish I could push back on that
Speaker 2: comment a little bit, but I really can't.
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm with you for a team that
Speaker 1: already has tons of injuries, and would you and.
Speaker 2: What you finally saw last night was I think what
Speaker 2: a lot of us have been wondering for the past
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, and why don't you feed in this
Speaker 2: guy way more?
Speaker 1: They finally start to see that last night, and then
Speaker 1: he goes out with that injury. Ray Atreakan Havoc, I
Speaker 1: believe Zach made a career decision. It was not banged up. Lol. However,
Speaker 1: I have no way of verifying this. Lol. Again, And
Speaker 1: Mike galvaus, I've done some research over the last two weeks.
Speaker 1: The Raiders are averaging thirty one point five points the
Speaker 1: last two games. Hope you can use this fun fact
Speaker 1: during sing lines today. It'll be a zero. And what
Speaker 1: was it as sixty two? I believe it was sixty one.
Speaker 1: What do they have? Sixty three? Sixty three? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: thirty one point five sixty three? That's right, all right?
Speaker 1: What's next? All right? Early window Packers at Panthers? Oh god, Packers,
Speaker 1: what happened? I thought you were going to be good.
Speaker 1: You're six and eight now outside looking at at Carolina
Speaker 1: two and twelve. Green Bay loses Tampa Bay this game
Speaker 1: at one point, this was crazy. This was just a
Speaker 1: score fest. Tampa Bay McLaughlin thirty nine yard field goal,
Speaker 1: three to nothing. Then Green Bay matriculated but stopped on
Speaker 1: downs fourth and two, fourth and two at the Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay four love and complete intend for Jayden Reid. Two
Speaker 1: plays later, second and six at their own nine, Mayfield
Speaker 1: was stripsacked in his throwing motion by Kingsley and a
Speaker 1: bare who also recovered the fumble. Two plays later, love
Speaker 1: to Tucker Crafts seven to three. Packers last minute of
Speaker 1: the first quarter, but then Tampa Bay seven plays seventy
Speaker 1: five yards Mayfield to Evans for nineteen ten to seven
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay twelve twenty one left second quarter, Carlson thirty
Speaker 1: six yard field will have notted up at ten. Later,
Speaker 1: McLaughlin will get a forty six yard field wal to
Speaker 1: have the Bucks up thirteen to ten and a half.
Speaker 1: Second half. After a green Bay three and out, Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay eight play sixty six yards Mayfield to Rashad White
Speaker 1: from twenty six twenty to ten bucks ten to fifty
Speaker 1: five left third quarter. Green Bay would answer seventy five
Speaker 1: yards eleven plays love to Jayden Reed what a player
Speaker 1: he's turned out to be from seventeen out on third
Speaker 1: and fourteen Tiptoe catch twenty to seventeen bucks four eighteen
Speaker 1: left third quarter. But from this point forward, oh boy,
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay nine plays seventy five yards Mayfield to co
Speaker 1: Keep from two out twenty seven to seventeen bucks twenty
Speaker 1: seconds left in the third quarter. After a Carlson thirty
Speaker 1: three yard field will cut it to twenty seven to
Speaker 1: twenty with ten oh four to go, Tampa Bay right
Speaker 1: back sixth plays seventy five yards Mayfield to David Moore
Speaker 1: for fifty two Rudy Ford slaps the ball out of
Speaker 1: Moore's how can I put the celebratory extended arm at
Speaker 1: the goal line? But not enough evidence to overturn it,
Speaker 1: so it's a touchdown. Bucks thirty four to twenty was
Speaker 1: six thirty to go. Can you just hold on to
Speaker 1: the ball one second longer? Green Bay would be stopped
Speaker 1: on downs from there, they'd never see the ball again.
Speaker 1: That's how it would end. Love twenty nine of thirty
Speaker 1: nine and defeat for two eighty four, two touchdowns, no picks.
Speaker 1: He was sacked twice, he lost the fumble. They were
Speaker 1: outgained by Tampa Bay. The Packers were four fifty two
Speaker 1: to three twenty one. And Carolina we already talked about
Speaker 1: their win over the Falcons, which just took what could
Speaker 1: have been a massive weekend for me and made it
Speaker 1: ho hum. Bryce eighteen of twenty four for one sixty seven,
Speaker 1: no touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked three times and
Speaker 1: they were plus two and turnovers that led to plus
Speaker 1: six net Carolina points. That's the margin that they would
Speaker 1: need in beating the Falcons nine to seven. I'll say
Speaker 1: because of that Atlanta spread at Carolina, which I thought
Speaker 1: was low. Yeah, I'm just gonna say Green Bay is
Speaker 1: only going to be a three point favorite on the road. Also,
Speaker 1: so this opened, you thought about it smarter than I did.
Speaker 1: I guess. So this opened like three and a half.
Speaker 2: It's been ticking up though ever since this opened, so
Speaker 2: like three and a half. Most places it opened it
Speaker 2: were up to packers four and a half.
Speaker 1: So someone explained, it's gonna explain to me. Was it
Speaker 1: because of the weather? Then then Atlanta was Atlanta got
Speaker 1: to minus two and a half yesterday? No, it go
Speaker 1: it went through the three.
Speaker 2: So I guess part was weather almost Saturday night.
Speaker 1: I almost added it. I didn't because at that point
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, am I am I reading this wrong?
Speaker 1: By the way, Atlanta should have covered yes, but you
Speaker 1: know it's football.
Speaker 2: I would say this is the one I this is
Speaker 2: one I was, I was. I guess I am still
Speaker 2: interested in But this numbers. It's flying and I don't
Speaker 2: think any surprise there four and a half. Five's in
Speaker 2: the market. Now next all right, next up Browns at Texas,
Speaker 2: the nine and five Brownies in the eight and six Texans.
Speaker 2: We already talked about the Texans Cleveland. Now five and
Speaker 2: zero in games this year decided by three points or fewer.
Speaker 2: This season, he got some Stefanski love for coach of
Speaker 2: the Year. Cleveland punch Chicago three and out, Cleveland three
Speaker 2: and out. Chicago three and out Cleveland three and now
Speaker 2: that's how the game started. Then Chicago second and two
Speaker 2: at their own twenty seven fields with a wide open
Speaker 2: Robert Tunyan deep dropped it.
Speaker 1: They'd punned. Then another trade of three and outs, then
Speaker 1: Cleveland second and ate it their own eleven. Flacco picked
Speaker 1: by Eddie Jackson, return sets up Chicago first and goal
Speaker 1: at the one. Cleveland would commit three penalties, by the way,
Speaker 1: at that point, Pi sandwiched in between too many two
Speaker 1: too many men on the on the men let me
Speaker 1: start that again, two different too many men on the
Speaker 1: field penalties. But then Chicago fall started after foreman couldn't
Speaker 1: get it, couldn't get it on first down at the
Speaker 1: doorstep and third and goal. They finally scored fields with
Speaker 1: an escape job that he find comet in the end zone.
Speaker 1: Seven and nothing. Chicago finally after all that, ten to
Speaker 1: fifty four left in the second quarter, but then Cleveland
Speaker 1: answered eighty four yards twelve plays Flaco to Najoku. What
Speaker 1: a combo that's ended up being from two out seven
Speaker 1: to seven on a drive that featured a flack Goo
Speaker 1: to Cooper forty two yard hook up on third and
Speaker 1: seven and a DT yard of four five yard completion
Speaker 1: on a fourth and two. So we're tied at seven
Speaker 1: three forty eight laft. Second quarter, then Chicago three and
Speaker 1: out of Cleveland punch. Chicago is choose a fifty five
Speaker 1: yard field goal. They tried for a hail Mary that's incomplete.
Speaker 1: We're tied at the half seven apiece. Third Quarter's a
Speaker 1: lot to get to seven to seven. Third quarter after
Speaker 1: Chicago three and out, Cleveland first intended their own forty
Speaker 1: Flaco pick by Cremaine Edmonds off a deflection forty five
Speaker 1: to the house, fourteen to seven Bears, all defense man
Speaker 1: for the Bears thirteen to fifty left. Third quarter. After
Speaker 1: Cleveland out Santos forty one yard field weal seventeen to
Speaker 1: seven Bears, seven oh seven left in the third quarter.
Speaker 1: Then after a trade of three and outs, Cleveland punts
Speaker 1: it muffed by Trent Taylor, recovered by Muhammud Diabate. Next play,
Speaker 1: Flacco pick by Tyreek Stavidson Chicago up ten stopped on
Speaker 1: a fourth and one at the Cleveland thirty three when
Speaker 1: Fields gets tripped up just before the sticks by Cameron Mitchell.
Speaker 1: That would lead to a Dustin Hoptons thirty three yard
Speaker 1: field goal to cut it to seventeen to ten, Chicago
Speaker 1: twelve to twenty seven ag Chicago three and out of
Speaker 1: Cleveland three and out Chicago punt. There were so much
Speaker 1: of that in this game. Cleveland takes over down seven
Speaker 1: five eighteen to go. Sixth play of the drive, Flacco
Speaker 1: to Cooper for fifty one. We are tied at seventeen
Speaker 1: three oh eight to go Chicago three and out. Cleveland
Speaker 1: takes over, throwing twenty one with one fifty to go.
Speaker 1: Flaco to Najoku for thirty one to start things that
Speaker 1: on third and fifteen three plays later to Najoku again
Speaker 1: for thirty four. Hopkins thirty four yard field go good
Speaker 1: with thirty two seconds left, twenty to seventeen Browns. The
Speaker 1: Bears will get it to the Cleveland forty five with
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds left incomplete, incomplete and then Hail Mary Time
Speaker 1: goes up in the air deflex right into the hands
Speaker 1: of Darnel Mooney on the ground. No idea how he
Speaker 1: doesn't corral it. Kicks into the hands of the Anthony
Speaker 1: Bell ballgame and the Browns the Cardiac Kids do it
Speaker 1: again five and oh again in games decided by three
Speaker 1: p interviewer Flacco, what a shot in the arm despite
Speaker 1: the picks he has been for this team. Twenty eight
Speaker 1: of forty four for three seventy four, two touchdowns, three picks,
Speaker 1: sack four times, Cooper four for one oh nine in
Speaker 1: a touch, Najoku ten for one oh four in a touch.
Speaker 1: They outgained the Bears three seventy seven to two thirty
Speaker 1: six Houston in their win over Tennessee Keenan by the way,
Speaker 1: twenty three of thirty six for two twenty nine singletary,
Speaker 1: twenty six for one to twenty one on the ground,
Speaker 1: four catches for forty nine. I will say Cleveland is
Speaker 1: gonna be I'm expecting CJ. Strouds, So I'll say Houston.
Speaker 1: Split the difference between three and a pick minus one
Speaker 1: and a half. Houston, we are two and a half
Speaker 1: basically everywhere right now. It's give God, these lines are
Speaker 1: right on. The guesses like this is just not hard
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Speaker 1: that was on my millions card was worse Ridder or Mullins.
Speaker 1: I'm as say Ridder, I had Ridder? Yeah yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll go that one.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: This is from martl j I was visiting the dispensary
Speaker 1: during the first hour of the show. Still not sing
Speaker 1: the e and the Eagles logo. Jason H. Eleven, Hey, Gilly,
Speaker 1: does the sushi place have a logo? True? Good morning?
Speaker 1: Doesn't the seahawk face left? No, it does not? It
Speaker 1: faces right? No. No, We've gotten to the portion of
Speaker 1: the tweets where we were basically being used as Google
Speaker 1: it is. It is amazing that we can bring up
Speaker 1: one ridiculous thing and then the whole thing gots yeah tray.
Speaker 1: John Baldosey wanted to tweet it. He was regarding logos
Speaker 1: at three am on Tuesdays. The Westgate turns the light
Speaker 1: off on the cross portion of the letter to spell ega.
Speaker 1: He says, that's awesome. Bruce Doe Big and the Old
Speaker 1: Montreal Expo's logo was supposed to be a stylized M,
Speaker 1: but insiders will tell you it's actually c B, the
Speaker 1: initials of Expo's owner Charles Brumpfman. That's cool. And Kevin
Speaker 1: Ryan Gilda Gushing and man love for lamar by Collinsworth
Speaker 1: last night was over the top, no doubt. He asked
Speaker 1: for a signature post game. I agree, who he just
Speaker 1: couldn't stop with Lamar Love. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I took it as completely over
Speaker 2: the top, but like it sounded like he had never
Speaker 2: seen Lamar Jackson played before.
Speaker 1: Is more the way I took it. He was trying
Speaker 1: to wedge in Tyreek to the MVV discussion still and
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of other stuff he was trying to
Speaker 1: do last night. All right, you ready for the next Yes, sir?
Speaker 2: Four oh five Eastern on Sunday, Jags at Bucks, the
Speaker 2: eight and six Jaguars.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Kelly Betts, how many times you bet them
Speaker 1: to win the division before the season, like three times
Speaker 1: or something?
Speaker 2: Yes, the la I have a money on them to
Speaker 2: win the division is a large amount for me, kil
Speaker 2: And this is getting at a little frisky.
Speaker 1: Was it all at minus one fifty?
Speaker 2: Now I got one minus one sixty and a minus
Speaker 2: one forty five?
Speaker 1: I think in there as well. Tied now with both
Speaker 1: both the Texans and the Colts at the top of
Speaker 1: the AFC South, but the Jaguars at the breaker right now.
Speaker 1: After the Jacksonville punt, Justin Tucker forty three yardfield goal
Speaker 1: three to nothing Baltimore last night in case you missed
Speaker 1: the six twenty one left in the first quarter. McManus
Speaker 1: then missed a fifty yard field goal try running into
Speaker 1: the kicker not called Baltimore three and out. McMahons then
Speaker 1: missed a fifty five yard field we'll try Baltimore second
Speaker 1: and fourth of the Jacksonville thirty eight Lamar picked by
Speaker 1: Rayshawn Jenkins eleven thirty seven left in the second quarter.
Speaker 1: It's still three to nothing. Jacksonville fourth and two at
Speaker 1: the Baltimore forty three, Lawrence to Ridley for thirteen, but
Speaker 1: six plays later, third and seventeen at the Baltimore twenty three,
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence runs and just drops the ball untouched, picked
Speaker 1: up by Arthur Malette of Baltimore, who returned twenty one yards.
Speaker 1: Still three to nothing Baltimore. Baltimore then guts thirteen plays
Speaker 1: sixty yards Lamar to Isaiah likely from sixty nine on
Speaker 1: second to goal ten to nothing. Ravens won twelve left
Speaker 1: second quarter, and then after a twin in this sequence
Speaker 1: here after a twenty nine yard Agnew kickoff return, the
Speaker 1: Jaguars takeover at their own forty one with one oh
Speaker 1: four left. They're down ten to nothing but no timeouts.
Speaker 1: Second and eleven at the Baltimore forty one, with thirty
Speaker 1: seconds left, Kelly Lawrence to Zay Jones for thirty six
Speaker 1: down to the five. Now, remember the clock is running
Speaker 1: and they have no no timeouts, but plenty of time.
Speaker 1: I need to spike it and take a shot in
Speaker 1: the end zone. Absolutely, you can spike the ball. You
Speaker 1: get a chance at the end zone. But Jacksonville gets
Speaker 1: into shotgun. Lawrence then goes to Parker Washington in the
Speaker 1: left flat for a one yard game, tackled and bounced
Speaker 1: by Marcus Williams, and the half ends ten to nothing. Ravens,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, Real cool, real cool, go real cool.
Speaker 1: This is why you can't take this team seriously. And
Speaker 1: this is why like the fumble untouched by Lawrence and
Speaker 1: that decision at the end of the half, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: he's not generational, he's just not Let us continue. So
Speaker 1: two missfield goes. Let me just reaca up two missfield
Speaker 1: goals that Lawrence fumbled inside the red zone, untouched, then
Speaker 1: botching the clock at the end of the half, outgaining
Speaker 1: Baltimore one eighty one to one sixty six, down ten
Speaker 1: to nine.
Speaker 2: I mean that absolute worst we're talking this game is
Speaker 2: what twelve.
Speaker 1: They've got twelve points heading into half time. It should
Speaker 1: it should minimum be twelve, minimum four field goals. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean fifty five and fifty, so let's get let's
Speaker 1: split those nine.
Speaker 2: Let's say see I first went that way, but there
Speaker 2: was the miss there was a mist running into the
Speaker 2: kicker call.
Speaker 1: There was that that was missed. Yes, you're right, but
Speaker 1: that was on the fifty not the fifty five. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right. Third quarter Baltimore punt Jacksonville was eighty eight yards,
Speaker 1: five places Lawrence to Agnew from sixty five out ten
Speaker 1: to seven, Baltimore seven to fifteen left. Mike Tarrico then
Speaker 1: throws out what I found to be the most fascinating
Speaker 1: stat of the day. That sixty five yard touchdown pass
Speaker 1: was the longest touchdown pass in Trevor Lawrence's career, and
Speaker 1: not only the longest touchdown pass, it was the longest
Speaker 1: pass completion of Trevor Lawrence's career. I spent the next
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes going nuts on this researching. Trevor Lawrence has
Speaker 1: thrown over seventeen hundred NFL passes regular season in postseason.
Speaker 2: His previous long was fifty nine. Wow, no idea, I did.
Speaker 2: I That jumped out to me too. I was shocking
Speaker 2: to me as well.
Speaker 1: Wowow all right, So there's that Baltimore punchs Jacksonville three,
Speaker 1: and now Baltimore starts at their own forty two. They're
Speaker 1: only up three. Now five play fifty two yard drive
Speaker 1: Keith Mitchell for twenty four. Then two plays later Lamar,
Speaker 1: almost decapitated by Dwayne Smooth, gets away, throws it up,
Speaker 1: likely comes down with it over two defenders for a
Speaker 1: twenty six yard gain, and two plays later, the first
Speaker 1: play of the fourth quarter Gustin from one seventeen to
Speaker 1: seven Baltimore play of the game. Oh, it was incredible.
Speaker 1: That was incredible. Then Jacksonville three and OWT. Baltimore would
Speaker 1: out of Tuckerfieldville twenty to seven, eight minutes to go,
Speaker 1: but they'd lose Keaton Mitchell, as we talked about on
Speaker 1: that drive, look like an untouched knee injury. It was.
Speaker 1: He's out for the season. And I will say it again,
Speaker 1: it's the biggest, most significant injury of the weekend in
Speaker 1: the NFL. That to me is the difference between the
Speaker 1: Ravens being a legit Super Bowl champion contender and not
Speaker 1: Jacksonville third and tenth their own twenty five Laurence sacked
Speaker 1: by Justin Maduwicke. He fumbles it. Patrick Queen recovers that
Speaker 1: set up another Tuckerfieldvill twenty three to seven. Then was
Speaker 1: one other play, second and ten Lawrence to Ridley back
Speaker 1: the end zone. It was ruled and complete. It was
Speaker 1: challenged and upheld. Terry McCauley, I know Terry McCauley's in
Speaker 1: the booth saying he said it was obvious that it
Speaker 1: should be a touchdown. It wasn't obvious.
Speaker 2: I don't think it was obviously. I think it was
Speaker 2: a touchdown. I don't think it was obvious. Yes, he
Speaker 2: was freaking out.
Speaker 1: Like might have been a touchdown, but there was nothing
Speaker 1: obvious about. Terry McCauley was like, it's the most obvious
Speaker 1: think I've ever Yeah, okay, that was over anyway. That's
Speaker 1: the final Lawrence twenty five or forty three for two
Speaker 1: sixty four. That last fumble, though, again, that's the difference
Speaker 1: between him and being deleaded, not that's his twentieth lost fumble,
Speaker 1: second in this game, most in the NFL since twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one, and by the way, he entered concussion protocol
Speaker 1: after the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a major note from this game that, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean I didn't pick up on at the time.
Speaker 1: That didn't come out till after the game. It didn't
Speaker 1: come up till after the game Tampa Bay and victory.
Speaker 1: By the way, Mayfield was twenty two of twenty eight
Speaker 1: for three eighty one in their win against Green Bay.
Speaker 1: Perfect passer rating for Baker Mayfield one fifty eight. Wait
Speaker 1: three in that game? How about that? Jacksonville minus four
Speaker 1: at Tampa assuming Trevor plays. But that's an assumption.
Speaker 2: Okay, So this where things get tricky, and if you've
Speaker 2: already jumped on this line, good for you. So this
Speaker 2: opened most places Jacksonville like two to two and a half.
Speaker 2: We are pick them pretty much everywhere. I'm seeing that
Speaker 2: actually has this game up right.
Speaker 1: Now, let's throw one in real quick. Okay, We've got
Speaker 1: four to twenty five Eastern Cardinals at Bears. Three eleven
Speaker 1: Cardinals five and nine Bears. Cardinals scored first against the
Speaker 1: Niners seven play, seventy five yard drive. Connor in from two,
Speaker 1: seven to nothing. Cardinals Kyler Terry to Trey McBride for
Speaker 1: thirty eight the big one on that drive, but then
Speaker 1: Perdy and the Niners came back eight play seventy five
Speaker 1: yards Perty to Debo for twelve, seven to seven and
Speaker 1: then Arizona subsequent drive fourth and three at the San
Speaker 1: Francisco forty two Kyler picked by Charvarius Ward sixty six
Speaker 1: at the house, fourteen to seven, nine ers four to
Speaker 1: twenty two left in the first quarter, but Arizona would
Speaker 1: hang around Prader fifty eight yard field goal, fifty eight
Speaker 1: yard field goal to make it fourteen to ten. Prayer's
Speaker 1: still awesome. Then a Prater forty three yard field goal
Speaker 1: fourteen to thirteen six, fourteen left in the second quarter,
Speaker 1: San Francisco ensuing drive. McCaffrey's knee and Purty the head
Speaker 1: injury heard on consecutive plays, and at that moment up
Speaker 1: one with those two injuries, you were like, oh no,
Speaker 1: this could be the end of the Niner season. But
Speaker 1: both would return and they took up for five yard
Speaker 1: touchdown pass as part of a ten to play seventy
Speaker 1: five yard drive twenty one to thirteen, nine ers one
Speaker 1: fourteen left in the second quarter. Then Ronnie Bell would
Speaker 1: fumble a kick excuse me, a punt return that was
Speaker 1: recovered by Dorch, but Bell was ruled down, so the
Speaker 1: Niners got a break there to preserve the eight point lead.
Speaker 1: And then it was kind of back and forth. It
Speaker 1: was twenty eight thirteen, then twenty eight sixteen. Again the
Speaker 1: Cardinals would hang around, then the Niners would answer to
Speaker 1: go up thirty five to sixteen. Another sixty yard six
Speaker 1: playe drive McCaffrey in from one seventy five yards eight
Speaker 1: plays at Mari de Mercado from forty nine out to
Speaker 1: cut it to thirty five to twenty two. But then
Speaker 1: a seven play seventy five yard drive for the Niners
Speaker 1: perty to Demo from nineteen out to go back up
Speaker 1: forty two to twenty two. Anyway, bottom line is forty
Speaker 1: five twenty nine nine ers. Were you worried about the
Speaker 1: Niners defense in that game that they just kept giving
Speaker 1: up points or were you like they just weren't engaged
Speaker 1: a little bit of both. I'm gonna say a little
Speaker 1: bit of both.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it matters, though, Like this is
Speaker 2: I don't know, like the San Francisco, This Niners offense
Speaker 2: is so.
Speaker 1: Good it's worth noting though, right. It's worth noting, yes,
Speaker 1: Fields and the Bears lost. The Browns was nineteen to
Speaker 1: forty for one sixty six. I will say the Bears
Speaker 1: are four and a half point favorites hosting the Cardinals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right on again, it's four four and a half
Speaker 1: pretty uh everywhere? These ain't that tough to come up
Speaker 1: with this week? Again? This only I would like for
Speaker 1: a chakra to happen me too, Yeah, it wasn't much
Speaker 1: for me. Week sixteen. More coming up, guessing lines, numbers,
Speaker 1: game Visa and the Sports Betting Network Skill Alexander's Kelly Binlin.
Speaker 1: We're live from Markanda the Barrage here at the d
Speaker 1: in downtown Las Vegas. Went to a night's game courtesy
Speaker 1: of Derek Stevens and Mike Palm. Friday night, A bunch
Speaker 1: of us went in the circus seats. Yeah, yeah, the
Speaker 1: nice circus seats right on the glass. Brent Musburger in
Speaker 1: the house, Derek. Derek wasn't feeling well, so Derek didn't go.
Speaker 1: Brent Musburger was there, got to sit next to Brent.
Speaker 1: Was the time. Tim Murray from V's in Prime Time
Speaker 1: was there as well. Mike Pritchard in the house as well.
Speaker 1: Mike Palm himself, amal Shaw what a crew. Banksy was
Speaker 1: there as well. A good time was had by all,
Speaker 1: but their seats are just out of control. It was
Speaker 1: a great way to experience a hockey game from right
Speaker 1: on the glass behind the goal. Yeah. I've never done
Speaker 1: straight on the glass before. I mean definitely been like
Speaker 1: my life, probably five right, how me hockey games? Have
Speaker 1: you been to it in your entire life? Uh? Less
Speaker 1: than twenty five? Okay, less than twenty five. How many
Speaker 1: Golden Knights games have three or four? That's right?
Speaker 2: I think I'm like two. I think of two Golden
Speaker 2: Knights and everything else would have been.
Speaker 1: I went to the stanle I once was a cap
Speaker 1: Stanley Clup clinch. Stanley Cup clincher. That was the most massing.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, that's cool. But anyway, thanks to thanks
Speaker 1: to them for inviting all of us. It was great.
Speaker 1: Blues crushed them there on their third period though, five
Speaker 1: to two, scoring four unanswered, but nonetheless shout out to
Speaker 1: the to the circuit court, that's awesome. This exercise of
Speaker 1: guessing lines is supposed to yield value. I don't There
Speaker 1: has not been anything that has gotten me excited yet.
Speaker 1: Week sixteen. Yeah, gotta come up with five for millions
Speaker 1: man four to twenty five Eastern Cowboys at Dolphins. By
Speaker 1: the way, we get tweets Robert Smith, Gil you can
Speaker 1: still get the Bengals seventy five to one to win
Speaker 1: the wide open AFC at DraftKings. Would you bet that?
Speaker 1: I would not. I understand what. I understand what you're saying, Robert,
Speaker 1: but I still wouldn't bet it. I mean, if if,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you believe in Jake Browning that much,
Speaker 1: go for it. And I can't really sit here and
Speaker 1: tell you that Jake Browning's proven to be a horrible
Speaker 1: quarterback in either I mean, I can't do that. Real
Speaker 1: uniforms are I know this is not what you asked,
Speaker 1: but the old Broncos logo faced left to a wat's
Speaker 1: an old AFL logo. He's got there, Scott New York
Speaker 1: Mes six seeing gildies might be hard to see, but
Speaker 1: the Yankees, Mets and Football Giants were very creative and
Speaker 1: use the n Y as their logos. It's obscure, but
Speaker 1: the new But the n Y represents New York always joking.
Speaker 1: I get it. David King if Mitchell's injury talking about
Speaker 1: so glad that worked out that way, David King, if
Speaker 1: Mitchell's injury is the biggest of the weekend, will you
Speaker 1: adjust Baltimore's number based on that half point perhaps? Or
Speaker 1: is that just a they'll lose a big game without
Speaker 1: him injury? Do you adjust for any player other than
Speaker 1: a quarterback, sat or or CMC for instance. It's a
Speaker 1: great question to David King. As I was I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what I meant as I was saying it, I
Speaker 1: wasn't thinking about a point value, though it probably is
Speaker 1: a half a point or something like that. But I
Speaker 1: really believe that it's the second thing you were talking
Speaker 1: about As I was talking, I think it's a big
Speaker 1: game where you won't be able to quantify it because
Speaker 1: he's not there on the field, But think about he
Speaker 1: makes a he makes one or two big plays every game,
Speaker 1: if not three, where he's getting chunk yardage that if
Speaker 1: it's not Lamar doing it and escaping, and how sustainable
Speaker 1: is that. I don't know who on the Ravens can
Speaker 1: do that consistently. And Keaton Mitchell was a guy who
Speaker 1: started on the practice squad. Believe me, I'm very tapped
Speaker 1: into the Baltimore Ravens practice squad this year, as you
Speaker 1: may or may not know. So this was a guy
Speaker 1: that we're just aching to put on the football field.
Speaker 1: And now that's tough, all right, I'm sorry, Kelly, what
Speaker 1: did you say? It was Dolphins Cowboys of Dolphins. Great game,
Speaker 1: the Bully Bowl, the Bully Bull They finally got the
Speaker 1: ten and four Cowboys and the ten and four Dolphins.
Speaker 1: By the way, that Eagles game tonight is huge. Eagles
Speaker 1: trying to rest back the NFC East lead from the
Speaker 1: Cowboys here and the Dolphins, of course, trying to get
Speaker 1: this done now. Dak in defeat yesterday, Prescott was twenty
Speaker 1: one of thirty four for one thirty four. His passer
Speaker 1: rating was a fifty seven point seven. They were out
Speaker 1: gained by Buffalo. Dallas was three fifty one to one
Speaker 1: ninety five two sixty six rushing yards. They gave up
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty six rushing yards to the Bills.
Speaker 1: We were talking about Dallas home road splits seven and
Speaker 1: zero at home straight up three and four on the road.
Speaker 1: Point differential plus twenty four point four points the game
Speaker 1: at home, minus zero point six on the road they
Speaker 1: did clinch a playoff berth yesterday though with Atlanta's lost,
Speaker 1: so Dallas is in the postseason either way. And Miami
Speaker 1: and their win over the Jets. Hard to tell because
Speaker 1: it's against the Jets, but Tua twenty one of twenty
Speaker 1: four for two twenty four. The ball only hit the
Speaker 1: ground three times with him, he didn't throw a pick
Speaker 1: one touchdown Wattle eight for one forty two in a
Speaker 1: touch They outgained the Jets two ninety to one ZHO three.
Speaker 1: They were plus four in turnovers, as we mentioned, it
Speaker 1: led to plus ten Miami points. Uh, I just said
Speaker 1: Miami minus three. I'm assuming Tyreek is back.
Speaker 2: Yeah we are, Uh, we're under that really and it's
Speaker 2: Dolphin one and a half pretty much everywhere now A
Speaker 2: couple of ones out there as well.
Speaker 1: A little there was.
Speaker 2: There was movement early when this first opened yesterday, but
Speaker 2: nowhere significant all in between, you know, the one and.
Speaker 1: Two and a half. This might be a play on
Speaker 1: the Dolphins for me. I'll tell you why. So we
Speaker 1: just talked about their home road splits, but it really
Speaker 1: has to do with the with the track, right, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys look awfully fast on a on a fast track
Speaker 1: like their home stadium, not so much on the road.
Speaker 1: We know the Dolphins are fast no matter where they play,
Speaker 1: no matter what surface in the galaxy they play on.
Speaker 1: I think Tyreek yesterday wasn't that badly banged up. He
Speaker 1: had some off the field news that came up, by
Speaker 1: the way as well, where I think he wanted to
Speaker 1: with hard knocks. Maybe he wanted to slither away for
Speaker 1: that game. There was all the reporting pre game from
Speaker 1: the guys on the field of like, oh, he's running,
Speaker 1: He's running routes full speed, like he's a go like.
Speaker 2: There was multiple Dolphins reporters predicting and they almost never
Speaker 2: do this, do this right, like predicting he was playing.
Speaker 1: Yesterday, and then like fifteen minutes later an actives came down.
Speaker 1: He was on there. I'm taking Mike McDaniel over Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy here, and I'll tell you what else. Matt Brown
Speaker 1: did a great job of this one. He joins us
Speaker 1: on Fridays. The Cowboys defense gets a lot of buzz.
Speaker 1: They're highly overrated. Micah Parsons is the only one that
Speaker 1: generates actual pressure. So I kind of lean Dolphins here.
Speaker 1: That might be my first pick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm wondering if I'm wondering if Buffalo I do think,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe a little weather weather affected, but mainly
Speaker 2: that was that offensive game plan that they were going
Speaker 2: up against Dallas and We're gonna run it right at
Speaker 2: him over and over again. Yeah, and Dallas really couldn't
Speaker 2: do anything about it. You might not have as physical
Speaker 2: guys on the Miami side, but we know what they
Speaker 2: love to do in the running game, and they're gonna
Speaker 2: tell I think they'll test them every every which way
Speaker 2: they can get.
Speaker 1: A fascinating game this year. It really is.
Speaker 2: I'm I got nothing here right as of right now.
Speaker 2: I think I'm with you Lean Dolphins a little bit.
Speaker 2: I can't get there on a bed right.
Speaker 1: Now below the I'll take the night. I got to
Speaker 1: know on Tyreek first. I have to know, oh he'll
Speaker 1: play I think he'll play it to me, and he doesn't.
Speaker 2: That changes it, You're right, yeah, but he's so important,
Speaker 2: as we've talked about for weeks now, right, he's so
Speaker 2: important to this team.
Speaker 1: I couldn't get there without him. What's next? All right?
Speaker 2: Next up, we have Patriots at Broncos. This is your
Speaker 2: Christmas Eves Sunday night, game.
Speaker 1: Oh Boy three and eleven Patriots seven and seven, Broncos, Broncos.
Speaker 1: You know they should win this game, right, they should
Speaker 1: get a leg up again towards the playoffs. New England
Speaker 1: against Kansas City with it's the one game we haven't
Speaker 1: talked about New England. After a three and out, Butker
Speaker 1: missed a thirty nine yard field goal, his first miss
Speaker 1: of the year for the Chiefs. Then Chad Ryland returned
Speaker 1: the favorite, missed a forty one yard field goal try.
Speaker 1: Casey then goes sixty nine yards four plays Mahomes to
Speaker 1: Edwards a lair for forty eight the big chunk. Then
Speaker 1: two plays later, Jack McKinnon to Rashi Rice from four
Speaker 1: out on a direct snap, seven to nothing Kansas City
Speaker 1: one thirty left. First quarter. After the team's trade three
Speaker 1: and outs, New England goes sixty one yards ten plays
Speaker 1: Zappi to Hunter Henry from sixteen out on fourth and two.
Speaker 1: We're tied at seven seven to nine left in the
Speaker 1: second quarter. Then first play in suing drive Mahomes picked
Speaker 1: by Marte Mapu, set up New England first and goal
Speaker 1: with the eight of Kansas City, but they have to
Speaker 1: settle for a Ryland twenty five yard twenty five yard
Speaker 1: field goal. Nonetheless, New England leads ten to seven at
Speaker 1: this point, four forty seven left in the second quarter,
Speaker 1: I go, by the way, have Kansas City to be
Speaker 1: the number one seed ticket that I got, not at
Speaker 1: ten to one because we did have it in town,
Speaker 1: but at four to one, and I'm like, come on,
Speaker 1: you gotta win your games here at least Kansas City
Speaker 1: obliges is eleven play seventy five yards Mahomes to McKinnon
Speaker 1: from eight out, fourteen to ten Chiefs. That would be
Speaker 1: the score of the half. Then opening drive third quarter,
Speaker 1: Kelsey drops a would be touchdown pass for Mahomes. They
Speaker 1: settle for a Butcker twenty nine yard field goal. It's
Speaker 1: seventeen to ten. Kansas City, New England first played. Next drive,
Speaker 1: Zappi terrible pass picked by Willie Gay that sets up
Speaker 1: Kansas City at the New England seven. Two plays later,
Speaker 1: Mahomes to Edwards a lair from six out twenty four
Speaker 1: to ten Chiefs nine to twenty two leven and third
Speaker 1: quarter You're like, okay, well they're gonna just gonna run
Speaker 1: away with it now. But after a New England punt,
Speaker 1: Butker did kick a fifty four yard be able to
Speaker 1: make it twenty seven to ten. Later, same score though
Speaker 1: Kansas City cruising at this point first and ten at
Speaker 1: their own twenty four nine to twenty to go, mahomes
Speaker 1: to Kadarius Tony, the ball pops up in the air,
Speaker 1: just bounces off of him into the air, picked by
Speaker 1: Jalanti Tavai. Two plays later Kevin Harrison from eighteen and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's a ten point game again
Speaker 1: with a twenty four to go. Kadarius Tony is just
Speaker 1: having a time incredible. Then Kansas City punts. New England
Speaker 1: gets the ball back down ten, but they're in their
Speaker 1: own they're deep in their own territory and they go
Speaker 1: four and out. And this is the comical part of
Speaker 1: the game. Kansas City's up twenty seven to seventeen. They're
Speaker 1: set up at the New England seven. They'd go four
Speaker 1: and out themselves, not really trying to score so much.
Speaker 1: New England gets the ball with only thirty five seconds
Speaker 1: to go, and they would just sort of run out
Speaker 1: the clock with a run two. It was like how
Speaker 1: Kansas City covers there? You go zappy twenty three of
Speaker 1: thirty one in defeat for one eighty. Wilson, by the way,
Speaker 1: was eighteen of thirty two for the Roncos for two
Speaker 1: twenty three in defeat. I'll say Denver minus four and
Speaker 1: a half. I'll use four and a half again here
Speaker 1: this is Broncos six. We are up to six and
Speaker 1: a half at serg am, I gon a, Am I
Speaker 1: gonna play the Patriots? Is that what's about to happen?
Speaker 1: I would get I think this only goes one way.
Speaker 1: I think you're right. Maybe a second play coming back
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Speaker 1: We get tweets at beating the books. You just want
Speaker 1: to read these last couple year. This is from Vegas vice.
Speaker 1: He is showing us. I don't know where this book is,
Speaker 1: but Brock perty as high as minus two sixty to
Speaker 1: win MVP in some spots. Wow. Okay, Jutt O'Connor. How
Speaker 1: typical for running back on the Ravens to start looking
Speaker 1: great and have a season ending injury. The franchise is cursed?
Speaker 1: Might be from the ghosts of Ray Lewis's past. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: that's tough. It is really tough. Mike Alvarez, the iHeart
Speaker 1: app was acting up, so the audio was chopping. Did
Speaker 1: you call the Dallas versus Miami game the Bully Bowl?
Speaker 1: Is it bull season? After all? Curious to see what
Speaker 1: happens when two bullies fight? I did call it the
Speaker 1: Bully Bowl, the Bully Bowl, It really is. Oh the way,
Speaker 1: if you lose the Bully Bowl, you are the You
Speaker 1: are really the bully, right if you lose the Bully
Speaker 1: b Oh? Wow? Good call.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean no, no, no, it's two bullies meet. Yeah,
Speaker 2: one one semi real team leaves and one completely fraudulent
Speaker 2: team leaves.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, Well, the connotation of the bully sort of
Speaker 1: would extend further to the team that get their way
Speaker 1: to this point. Yeah. Now it's decide if either one
Speaker 1: of these is real or no, so this becomes a
Speaker 1: legit thing. Yeah, this is like a championship though, do
Speaker 1: you understand what I'm saying? This is a championship of
Speaker 1: the bullies? All right, you're ready for Christmas Day games?
Speaker 2: We didn't settle that, Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we got three
Speaker 2: of them. Okay, Christmas morning on the West coast, one
Speaker 2: Eastern time. Raiders at Chiefs.
Speaker 1: What says Christmas more than a rivalry like this? Uh? Raiders,
Speaker 1: Antonio Peers doing things. They're six and eight, They're still alive,
Speaker 1: Kansas City nine and five. Power ranking is gonna be
Speaker 1: interesting tomorrow because even in victory, like, I don't feel
Speaker 1: like the Chiefs are Like where would you power rank
Speaker 1: the Chiefs right now on AFC teams just in their conference,
Speaker 1: and yet they could still be the number one seed.
Speaker 1: They're nine and five. Mahomes by the way, in victory
Speaker 1: twenty seven of thirty seven for three h five. You
Speaker 1: see Taylor Swift getting mad at the lack of a
Speaker 1: flag when Travis Kelcey got knocked down on the end zone. Yes, listen,
Speaker 1: if I know this about one about Taylor Swift, if
Speaker 1: I know one thing about her, she knows about p
Speaker 1: I's in the other. There you go. She knows as
Speaker 1: much about as much as the rest of us. I'm
Speaker 1: sure I don't know anything. Chiefs might a seven and
Speaker 1: a half Chiefs minus seven and a half. Man, you
Speaker 1: surprised me with that one. That quick.
Speaker 2: Okay, we are We're low, Yeah, you are low. This
Speaker 2: is Kansas City right now.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to play the Raiders two ten, ten
Speaker 1: and a half only ten and a hook. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: one ten and a half out there, but mostly tens.
Speaker 1: I like the Dolphins, Pats and Raiders so far the
Speaker 1: best these last three games. Exactly. That's a lot of points,
Speaker 1: isn't it for as team that just doesn't look that
Speaker 1: great on offense? It totally is? It totally is.
Speaker 2: But I don't I guess if I was in your mindset,
Speaker 2: I'm a little surprised you'd be willing to lay that
Speaker 2: you know, lay that, you know, lay a lot on
Speaker 2: the road against New England last week, but then not
Speaker 2: here or not even not here, go the other way here.
Speaker 1: I think the Pacers are awful, god awful, and I
Speaker 1: think the Raiders are actually kind of credible. Polls have
Speaker 1: a pulse, Okay, I mean I agree with I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm listening. Do I love I'm with you? Though? Do
Speaker 1: I am I racing to bet either? No, I'll wait
Speaker 1: and see if it goes up. This one I have
Speaker 1: a feeling comes down a little. Yeah, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: you're probably right. I think I think it gets below
Speaker 1: that too. Now.
Speaker 2: I don't think they want to put it put it
Speaker 2: in teaser age, but all right. Monday, four thirty Eastern
Speaker 2: Giants at Eagles five and nine, Giants ten and three
Speaker 2: Eagles again. Eagles sight on saeing they're pending tonight's game
Speaker 2: again tonight's game. We don't know if it's Gino Smith,
Speaker 2: Ordrew Locke. We don't know if it's Jalen Hurts for
Speaker 2: the Eagles. Tommy DeVito in defeat against the Saints yesterday
Speaker 2: twenty of thirty four. He was sacked seven times. You
Speaker 2: see the Saints defenders when they would sack them, they
Speaker 2: do the thing with their handy.
Speaker 1: We were on the air. I didn't catch that. That's gretty.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good, I said, Philly minus ten and a half.
Speaker 1: But who knows, they haven't played. You're right on there.
Speaker 1: That is ten and a half painted. That sounds right,
Speaker 1: all right? And then all the big one game of
Speaker 1: the air Christmas.
Speaker 2: Night eight fifteen Eastern ray fits at the forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: Remember this because when you're in Survivor, you have to
Speaker 1: remember what the Christmas games are. So of the ten
Speaker 1: remaining Survivor entrants's gonna be fascinating to see what they
Speaker 1: have left. Joe Pete is going to talk to us
Speaker 1: about that tomorrow. He's done all the analysis of what
Speaker 1: these remaining entries have left. How many saved the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: how many saved the Niners? Are but Baltimore's eleven and three,
Speaker 1: San Francisco's eleven and three? So was the was the
Speaker 1: black I'm sorry?
Speaker 2: Was the Black Friday game a part of the yes
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving windows There were four games for thanks So this
Speaker 2: is this is tougher.
Speaker 1: This is in fewer games, Yeah, fewer games. Lamar yesterday
Speaker 1: in victory fourteen of twenty four four one seventy one
Speaker 1: twelve carries for ninety seven, and San Francisco clinches the
Speaker 1: NFC West with their winover Arizona. They've won six straight,
Speaker 1: all by double digits. Purdy was sixteen of twenty five
Speaker 1: for two forty two. We had a one thirty five
Speaker 1: point three passer rating, four touchdowns, no picks. He was
Speaker 1: not sacked, by the way. Would let's hear here, uh
Speaker 1: brock Perdy's passer ratings the last several stretch of games.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you would. This is add a one fifty
Speaker 1: eight point three, one third, this is going backwards, one
Speaker 1: thirty five point three, one twenty two point one, one
Speaker 1: forty eight point eight. He did have one bad one
Speaker 1: eighty six point seven, then perfect one fifty eight point
Speaker 1: three and one forty eight point nine. Earlier in the year,
Speaker 1: he also had a one forty four point four and
Speaker 1: a one thirty four point six. Pretty hey, pretty, hey good?
Speaker 1: Do you have any pokinakua stats you can read off for? Yes,
Speaker 1: glad you asked if Puka Nakua averages five and a
Speaker 1: half catches a game for the last three and one
Speaker 1: hundred four yards receiving a game, he will set both
Speaker 1: the rookie record for receptions and yards receiving yards.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, Drew Dinzik, do you have any Mike Tomlin
Speaker 2: positive stats that you'd like to get out one or
Speaker 2: two more times?
Speaker 1: Okay, you noticed that I didn't do a Pukatakola propaganda week,
Speaker 1: that I just kept it to Brock three. What do
Speaker 1: you think, by the way, right now, all those favorites
Speaker 1: that I gave earlier, should I repeat them? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think we settled on the two.
Speaker 1: I think we settled on the two. That Dan Campbell
Speaker 1: at two to one for Coach of the Year and
Speaker 1: Hamlin at minus seven hundred for comeback Player of the
Speaker 1: Year are the numbers that are probably the shakiest of
Speaker 1: all the favorites. The only way Stroud doesn't win Offensive
Speaker 1: Rookie the Year. So if he doesn't show up for
Speaker 1: the next three or has three some combo of not
Speaker 1: showing up and being horrible like he was against was
Speaker 1: it the Jets two weeks ago where they were He's
Speaker 1: just horrible, I do believe. And then Nicoole got both records.
Speaker 1: But that's the only way. So he's he's appropriate the
Speaker 1: favorite Stroud. I think I don't know if Michael Parsons,
Speaker 1: quite frankly, is appropriately the fab.
Speaker 2: I've been hearing a couple of people talking about that too.
Speaker 2: I think it's fair. I think it's fair.
Speaker 1: I'm not running to make a bet there, but I
Speaker 1: understand by the way, San Francisco minus four and a
Speaker 1: half is the guest.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm glad you brought that back before we forgot again.
Speaker 2: We are up to five and a half in this
Speaker 2: game now pretty much everywhere. Five at Draft Kings, five
Speaker 2: and a half everywhere else. Yeah, I think I'm going
Speaker 2: to put.
Speaker 1: A bet in today on the over in this game.
Speaker 2: Going back to our conversation, it's a total about the
Speaker 2: Niners defense total right now, forty five and a half,
Speaker 2: forty six is what you're gonna find. I just I
Speaker 2: don't know that I'm that high on Baltimore's defense either
Speaker 2: right now. I mean a lot of those a lot
Speaker 2: of those Jaguars problems were self inflicted yesterday.
Speaker 1: Oh for sure. For sure, Baltimore is just as solid
Speaker 1: as you think they are. It would surprise no one
Speaker 1: for them to just lay an egg in a playoff game. Actually,
Speaker 1: you know what I'll probably do here. I'll probably go
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Just team total over. That's what I think.
Speaker 1: Tell me who's the Tell me right now, who is
Speaker 1: the AFC champion when all is said and done, Who's
Speaker 1: the team that somehow gets through with one tweeter earlier?
Speaker 1: I feel like it's wide open AFC. I mean, I
Speaker 1: feel like it's been the sexy, the sexy pick the
Speaker 1: past few weeks.
Speaker 2: But me and you really haven't changed our minds on it.
Speaker 2: I think the Buffalo Bills are gonna go win the
Speaker 2: damn thing.
Speaker 1: They gotta get in first. I know, still on the
Speaker 1: outside looking in, but I listen, We've said it longer
Speaker 1: than now. Everybody's saying, oh, they're the team you don't
Speaker 1: want to play. We've been saying for a while they
Speaker 1: are the sneaky, freaky brothers sneaking in from the rear.
Speaker 1: They're the team you don't want to play. And don't
Speaker 1: count out Kansas City either like that?
Speaker 2: That is like I am not counting out Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 2: who is the greatest quarterback I've ever seen play with
Speaker 2: my two eyes.
Speaker 1: But don't you feel about the Chiefs that they feel
Speaker 1: more vulnerable this year than they haven't almost every year, perhaps,
Speaker 1: but one in the in the mahomes Ara, Well, well
Speaker 1: will I say yes to that? Yes? That is true.
Speaker 2: I also this running game and defense are about as
Speaker 2: good as I can ever remember Patrick Booms having assuming
Speaker 2: I say, but check who gets back here?
Speaker 1: Let me just go one on one by one. You're
Speaker 1: a quick reaction, yes or no? Can they win the
Speaker 1: AF six? Ravens? Yeah? Could they also lose? Dolphins? Could
Speaker 1: they win it? No? No, Chiefs, yes, but you could
Speaker 1: see them losing two. I agree. Jaguars No, I don't either.
Speaker 1: Browns No, I don't either, Joe doaven Bills, angles, no Colts,
Speaker 1: no Texans, no Bills. Yes, yes, they can get in bills. Yes.
Speaker 1: So when we say we said Ravens, Chiefs, bills, after
Speaker 1: all that just Ravens, Chiefs, Bills, and the Bills seem
Speaker 1: the least vulnerable currently. Power rank is going to be
Speaker 1: interesting tomorrow. I still think the Ravens are the most complete.
Speaker 1: With that Keaton Mitchell injury, boy, that hurts. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. It might not mean anything
Speaker 1: to the point, spread like you said with that tweet,
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