Speaker 1: On today's episode The Command Center Podcast, Fred Tanne, we
Speaker 1: are getting into it, man, we're talking about free agency.
Speaker 1: Who's available, bud Re signed early thoughts obviously, you know
Speaker 1: head coaching higher so far? What to do with that
Speaker 1: second overall pay lot? It feels like you got to
Speaker 1: go quarterback, but there's some other good players available there.
Speaker 1: And then we've got the bakeoff, yes, and Zach comes
Speaker 1: hard and someone ends up being a little bit salty.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the.
Speaker 1: Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here with Fred Smoot
Speaker 1: and San tanamaas guys. Yes, yes, yes, yes, good night
Speaker 1: at Hawkasse Sun.
Speaker 2: The Hawk is outside and it brow snow.
Speaker 1: Does I know, dude, it's been snowing. I think this
Speaker 1: podcast comes out a week from now. So is it
Speaker 1: still snowing? Who knows? But it's snowing right now. A
Speaker 1: winner is coming, Yeah, winner's coming, isn't It's crazy because
Speaker 1: it didn't stow at all last year, not even a
Speaker 1: little bit, and were not a lib but.
Speaker 3: The way it came down these plays. A couple of
Speaker 3: days I was going to this, had me left. I
Speaker 3: saw a white walker standing out in front of the store.
Speaker 3: Like I'm telling you like now it was and it
Speaker 3: was dusty, you know, it was like dusty where it
Speaker 3: flies around. And now it was like, all right, this this,
Speaker 3: this is real snow. Because you know, I did live
Speaker 3: in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm saying, Minnesota, you've seen, you.
Speaker 4: Seen minutes thirty minutes.
Speaker 3: It don't take but sixty second to learn where you shouldn't.
Speaker 2: Be it in the winter time.
Speaker 1: So I had a buddy who lived in Minnesota for
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, and he said, if you didn't
Speaker 1: have the automatic car starter on your car and you
Speaker 1: walk out and it's like negative forty, like you just die.
Speaker 2: He didn't tell you the truth that we don't.
Speaker 3: You can't park outside like every garage, every house, no
Speaker 3: matter how ugly the house.
Speaker 2: Is, it's heated garage.
Speaker 3: Because if my pickup truck outside not listening to the
Speaker 3: Minnesota guys, tell me, don't leave you the here guyside.
Speaker 3: I went outside, tried to open it, froze shut. I
Speaker 3: can't pour water on it because it'll crack the winders.
Speaker 3: It's too cold, so you have to really wait on
Speaker 3: it to throw out and they could take days.
Speaker 1: I also heard that the uh it can get so
Speaker 1: cold they're the anti freeze or the no no, the
Speaker 1: electric starter sometimes doesn't work so you can't even start
Speaker 1: the car it's so coold.
Speaker 3: Well, if the MISSISISPPI really is freezing, so it's not
Speaker 3: moving anything else free.
Speaker 5: Okay, So I mean so basically, you mean tell me schools.
Speaker 5: Schools are not going to be in there. They are,
Speaker 5: They're gonna close down stores because.
Speaker 1: I mean like that. But that's the crazy about Minnesota
Speaker 1: is they're.
Speaker 4: Just why fully nothing.
Speaker 3: We still go out downtown like they did a good
Speaker 3: job of connecting all the buildings downtown so when it's
Speaker 3: blizzard outside you can just walk all hold downtown and.
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Speaker 3: So no, they are fully functional, very Canadian like in
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Speaker 1: Alrighty, So now we're gonna kind of have a fun
Speaker 1: show today, kind of like a lot of games, a
Speaker 1: lot of team buildings, and the way we've programmed this
Speaker 1: show is the way the off season.
Speaker 4: Are going to go.
Speaker 1: So building through through free agency, excuse me, is our
Speaker 1: first segment, and we're going to take a look at
Speaker 1: some notable free agents on our team, whether we were
Speaker 1: resign them or not, and then we're gonna look around
Speaker 1: the league and kind of say, these are some pieces
Speaker 1: we think are interesting for needs that the team has.
Speaker 1: So just to get us started off, we have the
Speaker 1: most cap space the Washington Commanders in the NFL, with
Speaker 1: what is that number, six point two million, which is
Speaker 1: a big number if you're wondering in total cap space,
Speaker 1: and then sixty three point six in effective cap space,
Speaker 1: so a little bit different. But and then there's also
Speaker 1: the ability to free some of that up with restructures
Speaker 1: and cutting the veteran PA players. So let's look at
Speaker 1: the notable unrestricted free agents for this team. There are
Speaker 1: a lot of them, so I'm just gonna hit kind
Speaker 1: of some highlights. Okay, you got Curtis Samuel, you got
Speaker 1: Cam Croll, Kenda Fuller, Jacoby Brissett, and you've got Cornelius, Lucas, Khalek, Hudson,
Speaker 1: Cody Barton, and then there was one more. I wanted
Speaker 1: to hit all the defensive ends our free agents, except
Speaker 1: for the young.
Speaker 2: Guys w James hype and use it.
Speaker 1: So obviously there are some good football players on this list,
Speaker 1: guys that I think are important to re sign because
Speaker 1: you need to add depth. Right, is there anybody you're like, Man,
Speaker 1: Obviously we're not talking money on this show, but you're
Speaker 1: just saying it'd be important if we got this piece
Speaker 1: back or a guy to to kind of mimic this piece.
Speaker 2: Cam Currel.
Speaker 3: Cam Crollroll is the initial piece I see here did
Speaker 3: to be negotiations, Like, this is a real contract you're
Speaker 3: about to do. He's never made a ton of money
Speaker 3: in this league. This is gonna be his second contract.
Speaker 3: He's been playing at the Pro Bowl level for a
Speaker 3: couple of years. He's the guy that you had to
Speaker 3: really negotiate with on here. So Cam Curl would be
Speaker 3: that guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I agree, Cam Crow. But also, just just
Speaker 1: for Devil's advocate argument's sake, Kyle Dugger from New England
Speaker 1: is also a free agent, say too.
Speaker 5: Also just with Cam Curll being up knowing that, yeah,
Speaker 5: he's a guy that we basically homegrown. But if you
Speaker 5: have another guy out there, yes, a free agent like
Speaker 5: Cam that's sitting a little higher, would you take a
Speaker 5: shot at that guy and you know, cut loose with
Speaker 5: your homegrown guy?
Speaker 4: Like how does that you know?
Speaker 1: And again we have to also acknowledge that this is
Speaker 1: a really hard conversation to have because we don't know
Speaker 1: who the defensive coordinators. Yeah, like we're just trying to
Speaker 1: identify talent, and so just talent talent. Cam might really
Speaker 1: fit a certain defensive scheme at a high level, not
Speaker 1: fit another one. And then the defensive coordinator that come is,
Speaker 1: you know, comes in has a conversation with Adam Peters
Speaker 1: and says, you know, I don't really see the value here,
Speaker 1: and then they go to different directions. So that's why
Speaker 1: this conversation is so hard. But I think to Fred's point.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, no, he's that guy.
Speaker 1: Cam's a very talented football player. I think the one
Speaker 1: thing that kind of falls a little bit short is,
Speaker 1: you know, he tackles always in the right spot. Never
Speaker 1: been a guy that makes a ton of interception son
Speaker 1: a big place. Ye yeah, And that's the thing.
Speaker 3: And when you bring up a Cole Dugger, a guy
Speaker 3: that goes out there and make plays an anti one
Speaker 3: in Winfield.
Speaker 1: Junior, you love you. He's also a free agent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just saying, so you just see it. Who's
Speaker 2: stealing is higher.
Speaker 3: And when we're talking about the safety market, it doesn't
Speaker 3: vary much.
Speaker 2: Like a like a wide receiver.
Speaker 3: A ConA market the fifth corner in the number one corner,
Speaker 3: I'm not making exactly the same, but I think in
Speaker 3: the safety position it varies.
Speaker 2: I only buy a couple of dollars, so I have
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 3: I want to keep a homegrown guy like Cam Curroll,
Speaker 3: but it'll be hard for me not wanting to put
Speaker 3: anto One Winfield Junior right beside him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think Antoine Winfield Junior is interesting too
Speaker 1: because he did play that nickel roll in college. She'll
Speaker 1: give you some flexibility and again, a defensive coordinator. I
Speaker 1: don't know who it's going to be, obviously, but they
Speaker 1: come in here they say that flexibility is more important,
Speaker 1: or we really want Cam to be our buffalo nickel linebacker,
Speaker 1: and Cam would fit that role great. He did a
Speaker 1: great job with that early in his career. So that's
Speaker 1: an interesting one. Kendall Fuller is interesting to me too,
Speaker 1: a guy that you know. Last year, I was kind
Speaker 1: of ready to say, hey, it's ready to move on
Speaker 1: from him. But he had an excellent year this year,
Speaker 1: played really good football, and I kind of feel like,
Speaker 1: if if the numbers right, you know, why not, why
Speaker 1: not bring it? Bring the old veteran back and stuff
Speaker 1: he's got.
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean he's one of those guys.
Speaker 5: I mean when he's a veteran and you know the
Speaker 5: number probably not going to be too crazy like him,
Speaker 5: so you always want to keep that piece around. He
Speaker 5: was solid last year, and you can look at you
Speaker 5: having young talent.
Speaker 4: And sometime a young talent don't pan.
Speaker 5: Out as planned as yeah, as planned, or as soon
Speaker 5: as you want it to.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: He's one of those guys I would say, I will
Speaker 5: hope that at least he comes back to two of
Speaker 5: the other guys, if you know, worst case, he.
Speaker 2: A universal piece.
Speaker 3: He one of these guys that make every roster on
Speaker 3: all thirty two teams on his league. He's gonna to
Speaker 3: make it with his character, his talent. So he's one
Speaker 3: of those guys you won't in the locker room he
Speaker 3: wanted to bits, I'd be like, like, you say, listen,
Speaker 3: negotiate a way for you to stay here.
Speaker 2: Let's find a way for you to stay here.
Speaker 3: And I can't promise you to start and drab, but
Speaker 3: I promise you will play. But I need you to
Speaker 3: be more than just a play. I need you to
Speaker 3: be a teacher. I need you to be an anchor.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So those are interesting, and obviously I think
Speaker 1: it's important to point out that there is no middle
Speaker 1: linebacker at the moment on this team, right there's no
Speaker 1: middle linebacker. There's really no edge depth. So you look
Speaker 1: at a guy like Cody Barton, who I thought played
Speaker 1: better near the end of the maybe you bring him
Speaker 1: back because you know Jami and Davis I think had
Speaker 1: a good year, but coming off the injury where he's at.
Speaker 1: And then obviously there's guys like Casey Twohill and James
Speaker 1: Smith Williams. And I think that's again a position where
Speaker 1: like the GM isn't a really UH is in a
Speaker 1: really interesting spot with those guys specifically, What are your
Speaker 1: thoughts on that.
Speaker 3: I just think you got to have depth at the
Speaker 3: pass rush, especially when you don't have your anchor guys.
Speaker 2: But like you said, you got a clear dick right there.
Speaker 2: And I think two.
Speaker 3: Heel is a guy that I look in and say, hey,
Speaker 3: I might want to bring this guy back, James Smith
Speaker 3: william I might want to, like I want.
Speaker 1: To have some a death piece.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to have some guys on this team
Speaker 3: if he bought it, like he want of those guys
Speaker 3: that didn't play a lot because he was hurt this year,
Speaker 3: but he can play inside. He can play outside. Like
Speaker 3: you said, we probably got three D line for d
Speaker 3: sign for the whole year. Yeah, So now I need
Speaker 3: I need regulatory depth. And some of these guys I
Speaker 3: want to keep because they were part of this team
Speaker 3: and they do know E werebody.
Speaker 1: In this life. And I think the other reason, just
Speaker 1: to point this out real quick, is we talk about
Speaker 1: Casey and James, is the edge rusher depth in this
Speaker 1: year's draft class is not great, But there are a
Speaker 1: couple of free agents that are really high naming and
Speaker 1: I just wanted to go through a couple of those
Speaker 1: real quick. You got Josh Allen, Josh, He's he's been fantastic.
Speaker 1: Danelle Hunter is another guy that's sent a great job.
Speaker 1: Bryce Huff, Brian Burns, Brian Burns. Yes, those are the guys,
Speaker 1: and obviously Chase Young's another guy. So there are some
Speaker 1: pieces in free agency that you could look to acquire
Speaker 1: again to supplement some of the lack of talent in
Speaker 1: the draft to edge. Right, But I think that's something
Speaker 1: that needs to be considered here, Right. Do we need
Speaker 1: to get those guys like Casey and James back just
Speaker 1: as a safety net? Yeah, in case we can't get
Speaker 1: a big free agent and the team can't get a
Speaker 1: free agent. Okay, and there's not a ton of he's
Speaker 1: Isn't he a defensive.
Speaker 2: Tactic I've been saying, but he plays, Yeah, he can.
Speaker 1: Tell a bit of both. But again, and then scheme
Speaker 1: dependent too, like one of these guys.
Speaker 5: I was trying to say, you know all about scheme
Speaker 5: lives too, because we don't know going forward what we're
Speaker 5: going to be defensive. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So hopefully we don't change too much because then you
Speaker 5: have the guys here that's our staples, like true Hill
Speaker 5: and James Hyphen. Then you can say, okay, we at
Speaker 5: least worst case in there, we can bring those guys.
Speaker 4: But but you will hopefully hope that we.
Speaker 5: Can land one of these guys out here in for
Speaker 5: agency because we saw what things was like when we
Speaker 5: didn't have those I guess you can say stars.
Speaker 4: At that position.
Speaker 3: And we also was afoord three defense base wise, and
Speaker 3: now what do we flip to a three four? Now
Speaker 3: we don't need as many defensive line we need more linebackers.
Speaker 3: And this win I think the college Hudson's in world
Speaker 3: and the rest of those guys come into the folk.
Speaker 3: Then you look at a guy like Brian Burns from
Speaker 3: Carolina and say, you know what, you could play rushian
Speaker 3: four three.
Speaker 1: Three four, probably as better as a fourth three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you bring the guy in the Niahna. He's older, but.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like you's got some ability.
Speaker 3: He got you, like he can rush the pass. So yeah,
Speaker 3: most definitely this is what you're gonna have to look at.
Speaker 1: And again you would prioritize that because there's not you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot too from UCLA. There's the two kids from.
Speaker 2: Chop Chop Robinson.
Speaker 1: I get a friend first round guy, but a small, undersized.
Speaker 2: Guy Dallas from Alabama Dallas.
Speaker 1: And then the other guy's name is escaping me at
Speaker 1: the moment from Alabama. Both both those those are kind
Speaker 1: of the four top edge rushers in the draft, and
Speaker 1: I have a feeling they're going to go quick, quickly,
Speaker 1: and then we go early and then they're not all
Speaker 1: global scheme fits. I think it's the other thing that's
Speaker 1: tough about that group, right, So I think I think
Speaker 1: you want to see the Tannis point. You want to
Speaker 1: make sure you have a stud and it looks like
Speaker 1: the best way to get that taken care of is
Speaker 1: free through free agency.
Speaker 3: Right, Josh Hadden to be the guy that I covet like,
Speaker 3: you always got to have a guy that you cover. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he would be out of this group of past rushers.
Speaker 3: I love Brian Burns. I think he can make plays,
Speaker 3: but Josh Allen, I think can dictate game.
Speaker 1: Definitely grew up a lot this year. And I think,
Speaker 1: you know, looking at Peters and the things he prioritized
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. Yeah, obviously paying joe and Bosa, paying
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa, making sure they always have talent across that
Speaker 1: defensive line is a big thing, just about where you
Speaker 1: find it. Another reason we talked about Kendall Fuller, and
Speaker 1: I defer to Fred here on this is not a
Speaker 1: uber deep cornerback draft. It's not, so you got to
Speaker 1: make sure you get the pieces where you can get them.
Speaker 1: I think that's why those free agent names are so
Speaker 1: so valuable because it's not a deep free agent class
Speaker 1: and there's not a ton of guys in the draft,
Speaker 1: So you got to make sure you have your pieces
Speaker 1: when the chair settle. You know what I'm saying, Tanna, the.
Speaker 5: Jerry's believe you, and then we have so many other
Speaker 5: spot bots feel yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean you.
Speaker 5: Can look at this whole sheet and be like, who,
Speaker 5: we need a guy from every position?
Speaker 2: I go get these one guy for your position.
Speaker 5: You need you well, I mean you have to make
Speaker 5: your team up like this is. I remember coming into
Speaker 5: the league, and the league was one of those things
Speaker 5: at the time we came in in two thousand and
Speaker 5: one where the veterans filled the team.
Speaker 4: So free agency was always bigger than the draft.
Speaker 5: You're gonna draft that first round of because he's going
Speaker 5: to be somebody that's gonna help us.
Speaker 2: They don't guarantee he gonna start.
Speaker 4: You're not saying that he's gonna play that now.
Speaker 5: Now now you're talking about teen years later, first round
Speaker 5: as a playing now, second round as I playing now,
Speaker 5: third round, even seventh rounds.
Speaker 4: It's a different league.
Speaker 5: So now you know, teams who need those first round
Speaker 5: or that kind of caliber of young player, they go
Speaker 5: get him in a draft.
Speaker 4: But I think we need we both.
Speaker 5: We got to build our team up with some veterans
Speaker 5: and then go out there and pick pick one in
Speaker 5: the drafts.
Speaker 1: I mean, all teams need free agency. It's just about
Speaker 1: the level of what you're going to employ that and
Speaker 1: I'm just we're just identifying areas. I think that defensive
Speaker 1: line not great in the draft. For agents, there are
Speaker 1: some names right corner not great in the draft free agency.
Speaker 1: You gotta make a move, right it's I think that's
Speaker 1: where you look. And that's why Kendall Fuller might be
Speaker 1: back with the team. You know, some people say Curtis
Speaker 1: Samuel is even what are you gonna do a receiver?
Speaker 1: This is one of the at least in the top
Speaker 1: very deep fifteen receivers. They're all sick. Like it was.
Speaker 1: I was watching film getting ready for the Senior Bowl
Speaker 1: and I was like, no way, this kid is the
Speaker 1: seventh guy, and you go watch it the seventh guy guy,
Speaker 1: Yes he is.
Speaker 5: It's like twenty of them football year round. Yeah, seven
Speaker 5: on seven is at an all time high. You're gonna
Speaker 5: see way more receivers than you see anything else, like twenty.
Speaker 2: Deep in wide receiver.
Speaker 3: And I'm not one of them guys that like one
Speaker 3: thing about Curtis Samney.
Speaker 2: I think he had a hell of a year.
Speaker 3: But the only reason I can't bring him back because
Speaker 3: of him gonna not because of the money. Because him.
Speaker 3: Johann and Terror are too similar, Like I need I
Speaker 3: need the six four guy to catch bad pass.
Speaker 2: I need to him to the group. I need the
Speaker 2: burner need to add to.
Speaker 1: This also scheme dependent to scheme dependent. But I think
Speaker 1: when you look at like look at the playoff game
Speaker 1: last week, right, there was a ton of guys, you know,
Speaker 1: look at Detroit, different skill sets, look at Houston, different
Speaker 1: skill sets, Bay.
Speaker 2: Mike, Mike Evans, and then they got the short guy,
Speaker 2: like you got the head.
Speaker 3: Diversity in it room, Like that's the only way to
Speaker 3: make us as dbs respect y'all because if y'all got
Speaker 3: three guys and they all like Tanna, my playing for
Speaker 3: Tanna works on him and works on him.
Speaker 1: Also, Yeah, And I think that that's what you saw
Speaker 1: is that you know, obviously they have Detroit specifically, they
Speaker 1: got a bunch of studs. You know, you were you
Speaker 1: were talking about this before. We're talking about the Detroit game.
Speaker 1: Amara Saint Brown is the guy you expect, but the
Speaker 1: guy early is Reynolds making the plays. And then eventually
Speaker 1: Amanas Saint Brown comes and then Williams, the kid from Alabama,
Speaker 1: Jameson william makes it right and it all kind of
Speaker 1: shows up when you can maximize those playmakers. That's super important.
Speaker 1: So that's something I don't think you need to hit
Speaker 1: on offensive lines really deep this year. So I think
Speaker 1: Cornelia Slucas is excellent. I think if you can resign him,
Speaker 1: you probably try to. But again, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: pieces in the draft this year, so kind of a fun,
Speaker 1: uh fun offseason program, I guess, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: coupling the free agency with the draft. Now to me
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Speaker 1: All right, So now I'm really excited for this segment
Speaker 1: because the free agent one is fun. Yep, it's hard
Speaker 1: to know. I think that's the hardest one to know,
Speaker 1: given the fact when I'm at coaching place. But this
Speaker 1: one is fun because it's like, what do we do?
Speaker 1: What is the value of the second overall pick? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so who wants to start it off?
Speaker 4: Game?
Speaker 1: That you should smoo kiper served office the draft expert.
Speaker 2: At what you got?
Speaker 1: So value of the value of the second olfact if
Speaker 1: you're picking it to what how do you see that
Speaker 1: pick in your draft expertise?
Speaker 3: The only one thing more valuable is one like if
Speaker 3: you can't move but one more pick up that tells
Speaker 3: you everything where you're cornering the market of the draft.
Speaker 3: The whole thing of the draft is trying to get
Speaker 3: the better the best players out the draft. A chance
Speaker 3: to get the best player out the draft where we're
Speaker 3: in a situation where we can grab the best player
Speaker 3: in the draft. So if you got Caleb number one,
Speaker 3: we have a chance to get him. If you have
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison, number one, we have chance to get him.
Speaker 2: So whoever you value and if.
Speaker 3: You're looking at us, and I think what you don't
Speaker 3: want to ever do is be back this high draft.
Speaker 3: The only way you don't draft this high again is
Speaker 3: to win. You have to win with these picks. So
Speaker 3: if you get a cornerstone, if because if you did,
Speaker 3: how you're probably gonna go quarterback if you're gonna get
Speaker 3: that guy.
Speaker 2: And if you get that guy, you won't here game
Speaker 2: for fifteen years hopefully. All right, So distant we ago.
Speaker 5: So I guess when we say getting getting that guy,
Speaker 5: then we'll have to question us getting Chase at two
Speaker 5: because obviously we're back here.
Speaker 1: So we didn't get I'm so glad you brought that
Speaker 1: up because this is one thing about that second overall
Speaker 1: pick that I think people need to understand. There is
Speaker 1: a projection with all of those picks, even if it's
Speaker 1: the second guy in the draft.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So, cayleb Williams watch watched him of his film last weekend,
Speaker 1: watched three or four games. Awesome. He's not in rhythm,
Speaker 1: he's not in time. Is there a chance that he
Speaker 1: falls on his face in the NFL?
Speaker 2: Absolutely chance, All of them you know, like.
Speaker 1: Drake May for example, Yeah, he's got some things we
Speaker 1: were talking about, the throwing the football, Brandon Daniels, Right, dude,
Speaker 1: is Jayalen Jane Downs? Yes, excellent, Like looks like as
Speaker 1: close as tomorrow as Lamar as I've seen in a
Speaker 1: couple of years, right, dicing up Alabama, dicing up Florida.
Speaker 1: There is a chance that he gets the NFL and
Speaker 1: it just doesn't want.
Speaker 2: It don't work.
Speaker 1: So that's one thing where I see two and again
Speaker 1: you got to make the pick, because I think last
Speaker 1: year is also a great example.
Speaker 2: One ain't guaranteed.
Speaker 1: Even Texas, the Houston Texans had a high from what
Speaker 1: I understand, had a higher evaluation on Bryce Young. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they were picking second, so they took CJ. Stroud,
Speaker 1: the next best quarterback available, and that guy becomes the
Speaker 1: better pro. And that's again people don't know. And so
Speaker 1: when I look at this, one of the things that
Speaker 1: I always think about with a draft piece this high
Speaker 1: is trading out of this spot because, like we talked about,
Speaker 1: this roster's got a lot of space in it, right,
Speaker 1: a lot of holes in it, and you need to
Speaker 1: fill it with good players. And what trading back would
Speaker 1: do as I think back to that last year, right
Speaker 1: when the Bears traded up to one from nine, Right,
Speaker 1: they gave up DJ Moore and three first round draft
Speaker 1: picks Carolina Panthers. The Carolina Panthers did it right, So
Speaker 1: think about what that does for building a team that's
Speaker 1: a starting stud wide receiver plus three other supposedly studs.
Speaker 1: Obviously you got to hit on it. So that's one
Speaker 1: thing that I get drawn to with This helps mitigate
Speaker 1: some of your risks.
Speaker 3: Right, what about the fact that we do have multiple
Speaker 3: second rounds and multiple third Do that make you want
Speaker 3: to stick at two because I do have that much
Speaker 3: draft capital?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean what you think, I think you can't
Speaker 5: go wrong.
Speaker 4: I mean you can add more to that. I mean,
Speaker 4: I look at it like this.
Speaker 5: When you have as many quarterbacks that we have coming
Speaker 5: out this year, it's gonna get to the point that
Speaker 5: the week before someone's slot gonna change, Someone's going to movie.
Speaker 4: Down, he gonna go.
Speaker 5: And depending on what our scheme is, that's gonna change too.
Speaker 5: That's gonna change who's going to be greater than the others.
Speaker 5: So maybe Jayalen Dames might be the guy who we
Speaker 5: want to get. Do you say, okay, am I going
Speaker 5: to pick him at number two? Or would like go
Speaker 5: down and get him where I think he's going to be.
Speaker 5: I don't think he's making past three.
Speaker 1: And no, I feel I'm just.
Speaker 5: Saying like so, I think there's a lot of that
Speaker 5: stuff gonna, you know, shape itself out later wrong, down
Speaker 5: the line.
Speaker 4: But right now, it's a great question. It's a great
Speaker 4: argument to have.
Speaker 2: You know, I think, who do you fall in love
Speaker 2: to me?
Speaker 3: Who do the head coach in the GM say this
Speaker 3: is the stewart for next ten years in the league?
Speaker 2: Like who do they say? His game? Everything about him?
Speaker 3: Because you gotta realize they still got to do the interviews,
Speaker 3: they still got you know, private workout. They gotta be
Speaker 3: like cause you know, as fast as you fall in
Speaker 3: love with a player, you can you can fall out.
Speaker 2: Of love with one good meeting. Like, no, this guy
Speaker 2: ain't for us, He ain't not for us. So they're
Speaker 2: go to thee where do you value that guy?
Speaker 3: Because if you're trade out of two, let's just say
Speaker 3: you trade down to seven, you're talking about collecting maybe.
Speaker 2: Two two's a year and a two next year, plus
Speaker 2: they won you.
Speaker 1: Probably get a one. You probably get two ones and
Speaker 1: maybe a second for that kind of move, because again,
Speaker 1: you're what you're what you're giving that other team as
Speaker 1: an opportunity to get that franchise quarterback. So what is
Speaker 1: the valuable what is what is the value of franchise
Speaker 1: quarterback one in draft capital? I think it's about three ones,
Speaker 1: and so that's what you'd be getting now, you get
Speaker 1: two probably the following year, right like the Bears do
Speaker 1: this year. That gives you some flexibility to move up down.
Speaker 1: Let's say you like the draft class next year better.
Speaker 1: But I always I always think, like when you look
Speaker 1: at the turnaround in Philly, one of the things that
Speaker 1: drove that turnaround that got them to the super Bowl
Speaker 1: last year, yah, is they had that trade. I forget
Speaker 1: who it was with, but they traded back. They got
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of first round draft capital. They got
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of studs in there, right, and the
Speaker 1: roster flipped and almost it always like offseason.
Speaker 2: And taking jen Hurst in the second room. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: and he had a quarterback.
Speaker 1: And so there are other quarterbacks, right, there's Pennix, there's
Speaker 1: bone Nicks, There's Joe Milton from Tennessee good football players, right,
Speaker 1: and maybe you've fall in love with one of those
Speaker 1: guys that you could trade back with. But again, I
Speaker 1: think that's the thing is what if you think the
Speaker 1: guy is the guy, like the Freend's point, if you
Speaker 1: think it's a franchise guy, I think it's that dude.
Speaker 1: There's no there's no price tag on ye. Like if
Speaker 1: you think he's the next Andrew Luck or the next
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence or whatever it is, like you.
Speaker 3: Andrew look right, yeah, damn right, DNA you got realized
Speaker 3: that was Andrew Luck in RG three one and two,
Speaker 3: one and two, like it happened. We see his one
Speaker 3: and two all the time, Peyton Manning, Ryan Lee. We
Speaker 3: seed his one two back and forth. Sometime too better
Speaker 3: than one. Sometime one lives up to it. Sometime we
Speaker 3: find a guy in the fourth that's better than both
Speaker 3: of them.
Speaker 2: So it's end up.
Speaker 3: It's draft to me, is the ultimate lottery. Yeah, Like
Speaker 3: you could think you want.
Speaker 2: Until you look u about the next day and all
Speaker 2: your money got Draft.
Speaker 4: Taking the dice, Yeah, it is. That's what it is.
Speaker 1: It is taking the dice and you can do all
Speaker 1: the evaluation you want. Coaches have to be in place.
Speaker 1: We talked about how important that is, making sure they
Speaker 1: can develop, because if I, if I, if I get
Speaker 1: a guy at two and I think like that. That
Speaker 1: was one of the issues with Chase when he was here, right,
Speaker 1: Sam Mills, you know, say what you want about him.
Speaker 1: They didn't connect, right. No, he never develops, never had
Speaker 1: great teaches. He That is something people forget about. You
Speaker 1: need that infrastructure for that player to develop.
Speaker 5: Prime example, and some of the some of the things
Speaker 5: is about circumstances. You might get a quarterback in this
Speaker 5: draft and whether he goes in the top two but
Speaker 5: goes to a team that's going to use him, you know,
Speaker 5: in the wrong way.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna give you an example.
Speaker 5: We have a veteran quarterback in this league that people
Speaker 5: hopped on all year along Josh Allen. Josh Allen with Dorsey,
Speaker 5: my ex cottage quarterback. Dix was getting off, but they
Speaker 5: lost a lot of games. You do a lot of interceptions.
Speaker 5: You take Dorsey out the picture, you put in Brady.
Speaker 5: He's not getting off no more. Now the running back
Speaker 5: is getting off. He's a pro bowler, and now they
Speaker 5: winning games. So it's all about the circumstances and how
Speaker 5: that guy's being used. So a lot of times, like
Speaker 5: we look at last year's draft, you say the kid
Speaker 5: that went to Carolina.
Speaker 2: Was everyone he's the wrong.
Speaker 5: No, he hasn't had anybody, so you can't really just
Speaker 5: says he's wrong pick. But they quick to right you
Speaker 5: out because you're not being as successful as the next guy,
Speaker 5: but not looking at the circumstances.
Speaker 2: So that's what.
Speaker 3: It's like, looking at our circumstances when we draft the
Speaker 3: quarterback there how he has to play? Like something about this.
Speaker 3: You got Joe Burrow who came right off the porch
Speaker 3: ready to go. Well, Jordan Love was in that draft,
Speaker 3: Like Jordan look, his first his first time to start
Speaker 3: his fourth year in the league and he is now
Speaker 3: he's ready. If y'all forced him to play his first
Speaker 3: two years, he probably won't even be in the league
Speaker 3: right now. So you staying it right circumstances where I
Speaker 3: have to only look at it from the lenses we
Speaker 3: got it's gonna our circumstances.
Speaker 2: We have to get the.
Speaker 3: Most quarterback with the most starting ready quarterback in the draft.
Speaker 2: This is what we want.
Speaker 5: And with and with that being saying, we must make
Speaker 5: this team out to be what we talked about, getting
Speaker 5: those veterans in him that's going to be able to
Speaker 5: lead because he's not going to be able to come
Speaker 5: in here.
Speaker 2: No, he won't be able to rewrite what we got
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 5: Because it's a whole lot of stuff that you got
Speaker 5: to change and correct wrong bingo.
Speaker 1: And I think that's why, especially with a quarterback, getting
Speaker 1: that coach is so important. Like we can't, I cannot
Speaker 1: overstate how important Bobby Sloan is for CJ. Strouds. Definitely
Speaker 1: like that you talked about early on how they struggle
Speaker 1: a little bit offensively, but once they found their rhythm.
Speaker 1: Once Bobby found his rhythm, you insulate that quarterback position.
Speaker 1: Obviously he's got to make plays that credit twisted, but insulate,
Speaker 1: deleverage him, give an opportunity be successful. So I think
Speaker 1: that's like something that fans innerstanding. Just because we picked
Speaker 1: somebody at two, don't promise, or let's we trade him
Speaker 1: to one, still don't matter. It still don't matter. Like
Speaker 1: all those guys, like you know, we're talking about this
Speaker 1: more in depth as we go along, but they all
Speaker 1: have their works. It's not like there's a guy where
Speaker 1: it's perfect. This guy is ready to go. And even
Speaker 1: when the guys ready to go, even Andrew Luck, there's
Speaker 1: some questions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he still was. He still was holding to balls
Speaker 2: too long sometime. But it also now that we think
Speaker 2: about it, I love what Houston is doing.
Speaker 3: But as good great as what they're doing, it gotta
Speaker 3: be scary in the back of CJ scroud head because
Speaker 3: easiest two weeks from that he can have a new coordinator,
Speaker 3: so it could be somewhere else. And that's what makes
Speaker 3: me want to get an offensive guy because he never leaves.
Speaker 5: It's his successful if that he give that offense, that
Speaker 5: that quarterback.
Speaker 4: That team that time to grow with it for him
Speaker 4: him coming.
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm a defensive guy, so I love
Speaker 3: propping defensive guys up. But that's the only knock and
Speaker 3: having a defensive head coach.
Speaker 2: If you have a very.
Speaker 3: Successful offense, you won't have that coordinator alone. And I
Speaker 3: think you don't think CJ crowd as much as we
Speaker 3: love in him right now, if he gets in another
Speaker 3: offense in two months, does he take a step back.
Speaker 5: But it's only but you know, it's so crazy going
Speaker 5: back to it. I just talked about why is football
Speaker 5: like that now? It's been coaches that have been on
Speaker 5: the same staff forever, T one three manas you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, super Bowls them done, Pat turnover, Yeah,
Speaker 5: and it's like quick now I want him. He's he's
Speaker 5: ready to come leave up right now. But back in
Speaker 5: the day, it wasn't life.
Speaker 2: They had to do it for ten twelve year they had.
Speaker 4: To prove them.
Speaker 5: So wonder why we getting the turnaround? Like we are
Speaker 5: six coaches. You're not giving these coaches enough time to
Speaker 5: really develop or to even be successful enough where they
Speaker 5: was at before, you thinking that they can come over
Speaker 5: here and rewrite your stuff. So it's you know, it's
Speaker 5: the same way with players, Like you said, it's a
Speaker 5: micro wavee society.
Speaker 4: Man, they want it now, right now.
Speaker 1: So the other thing that we talk about mitigating risk,
Speaker 1: and I think that's something we talked about the quarterback
Speaker 1: and that was really good conversation. Great points for everybody
Speaker 1: is the player with the least amount of risk in
Speaker 1: the draft is Marvin Harrison. Like he might not be
Speaker 1: the best receiver, but he projects. I've never seen a
Speaker 1: guy that projects more easily to the NFL.
Speaker 2: He was ready for the NFL last year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're just like he's big, he's fast, he
Speaker 1: runs good routes. Is he the most Is he the
Speaker 1: best guyt of his breaks? No? Is he the is
Speaker 1: he the best that all these categories?
Speaker 2: No strong hands, but across.
Speaker 1: The board, pretty consistent.
Speaker 3: High football IQ, second generation football is everything there.
Speaker 2: Nothing ever looks too big for him.
Speaker 3: And I think he ready for the spotlight because he
Speaker 3: don't look star Holme like so some you know, some
Speaker 3: receivers I think people want to stay away from because
Speaker 3: they be like, oh, very talented, but oh this dude,
Speaker 3: you can turn into a demon.
Speaker 2: I don't see that with Mama Harrison.
Speaker 4: He'd been there before.
Speaker 2: He's been there before, he's been around his pop so
Speaker 2: long old boy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so again like Joe Alt is another guy that's
Speaker 1: very very consistent. Joe Alt, Yeah, I say, ah, but
Speaker 1: again there's there's I think I think for Shaw, who
Speaker 1: is probably a more talented football.
Speaker 2: Player I knew from Penna State.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Alt is like it's like right, it's a
Speaker 1: right down the middle fast you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like you're getting on base with a double one.
Speaker 3: So we've seen before, like not the Dame gives us
Speaker 3: this guy everything every three here they give us six six.
Speaker 1: I can move with the wins super consistent. Again, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there are guys that have higher upsides, but his floor
Speaker 1: is here so too. Because you talked about this Tanna
Speaker 1: like we went. I think you know with Chase, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is the surefire thing. Do you think you do that?
Speaker 1: Do you think you skip on quarterback? You have to
Speaker 1: take quarterback with two I.
Speaker 3: Think with everything new going, you have to. I think
Speaker 3: you got to you for it's I.
Speaker 5: Think you've writ down this road before and you see
Speaker 5: what it did to you. You know what I mean
Speaker 5: because because think about we have a quarterback then he
Speaker 5: didn't do it, So I think you have to.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the most about it's the most valuable
Speaker 1: position in all of sports for.
Speaker 5: A change, and that's the only way your franchise is
Speaker 5: going to be what it's trying to be a quarterback.
Speaker 2: And think about it.
Speaker 3: In your division. The Giants don't have a quarterback. Eagles
Speaker 3: to say that quarterback.
Speaker 1: There, but even that is look like look at the
Speaker 1: coordinator change there. That's a great example and is he
Speaker 1: is he going to be the answer? Moving forward.
Speaker 2: I think he was beat up.
Speaker 1: I think it's stematically though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was beat up and dank Priscott Hell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so do you is a guy in this draft
Speaker 1: that gives you that answer. We're going to talk about
Speaker 1: this way more as the off season go on. We've
Speaker 1: got senior ball coming up, We've got the Combine coming up,
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty freaking fire up about this. And so we
Speaker 1: have a bakeoff. So this is what the fourth Bakeoff event,
Speaker 1: and we per fan requests are doing this blind right
Speaker 1: line test, right, so we don't know who cooked what cookies.
Speaker 2: They called me the cooking mine, cooking mine, yeah, mine, man.
Speaker 3: They called me there an ashburner when I come driving
Speaker 3: Ice Street, letting cooking at the one, the cooking mine.
Speaker 1: So here we go. So what so what are we
Speaker 1: baking today? Guys? Uh?
Speaker 2: Fred?
Speaker 1: What are we backing?
Speaker 2: We make chocolate chip cookies today?
Speaker 1: You know, I can, y'all can already tell who's I
Speaker 1: can already tell you it is one.
Speaker 3: Always about hooks and another one that's about taste.
Speaker 1: Yes, that is correct. So chocolate chip cookies. What are
Speaker 1: the recipes? Boys? Will we do? So real?
Speaker 2: Scheff did not share one is agreed.
Speaker 3: I don't think he has, okay, of course he said
Speaker 3: he got some cinnamon from Madagascar.
Speaker 1: Don't tell me, don't tell me. Okay. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: start with which are starting with that one? Friend? Since
Speaker 1: he's no, but we're not. We're not supposed to know.
Speaker 1: We don't. I'm supposed to know.
Speaker 4: Don't show me which one is?
Speaker 2: So the lieu.
Speaker 1: Of this one, the big one whatever, the big one,
Speaker 1: the big one.
Speaker 2: Okay, we start there, the big one, all right? That
Speaker 2: tape that takes the hind of vanilla in there? Something
Speaker 2: put vanilla in the chocolate chip cookies.
Speaker 1: Who don't tell me, who don't spread?
Speaker 4: It's over now, I already know. Any one told me
Speaker 4: who's on?
Speaker 1: That's pretty Good's a good cookie, A lot of chocolate.
Speaker 2: That we'll get diabetes from.
Speaker 1: It's good. So that was the thick cookie, which I
Speaker 1: think I would anticipate is probably Zach, just because just
Speaker 1: because of how it looks like Zach with these big
Speaker 1: chocolate everything. If you're watching on YouTube, this is this
Speaker 1: is one, this is the other. This feels very Fred
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: Put the least effort.
Speaker 1: But all of your bakes so far have been just solid.
Speaker 1: They look normal, taste good, very straightforward.
Speaker 2: My appetite.
Speaker 6: I will say, Fred, you're you're better than I thought
Speaker 6: you'd be.
Speaker 4: Maddamn good cookie?
Speaker 1: Did he all right?
Speaker 4: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: I can never. I can never not like structures. Good friend.
Speaker 2: They have to taste. Tell me what you take.
Speaker 1: You have to take both good cookies? They are both?
Speaker 1: What is that? What is that? Then there?
Speaker 4: What's you know?
Speaker 1: My palates?
Speaker 2: Y'all don't understand Logan cannot taste. I smell, so I
Speaker 2: tried to.
Speaker 1: Keep just for the record, I can smell.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: There was a period of my life where I couldn't smell.
Speaker 1: I got a surgery. I can smell, but I don't.
Speaker 1: The nuance of tasting is not very high. Let's just
Speaker 1: say that, right, Yeah, Okay, we get what I'm saying. Chocolate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so chocolate, So I got it. So what it's like,
Speaker 1: what is this? I can tell it's a chocolate chip cookie.
Speaker 1: But when it's like, do you taste the hint of
Speaker 1: lavender in there? No? I don't. I don't taste subtle.
Speaker 1: I don't know, so peop don't know. What about the cooking?
Speaker 1: He's a cooked monster? So what do we got?
Speaker 4: Tanne, I like both of them. Gotta give the fred really,
Speaker 4: I gotta give Wow.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you why to one that has always
Speaker 5: it tastes good. It never not tastes good. It's something
Speaker 5: about fred at the end. Now why I say Freddy
Speaker 5: cooking andself?
Speaker 4: Man, yes, your.
Speaker 3: Mama, somebody he gave me a five a five hour hentt.
Speaker 4: It's something at the end of it.
Speaker 6: Just damn you know that the love you've you've never
Speaker 6: really you really enjoy anything I've ever made?
Speaker 1: Yes, just.
Speaker 2: Eat punking.
Speaker 1: Bye.
Speaker 2: He enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: That's true, he did you.
Speaker 5: That's out of all people. I'm piggy this guy. So
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be picky with food. And for me to
Speaker 5: say it's good, that's mean I'm enjoying it. But then
Speaker 5: when I got to say, like I said, if I
Speaker 5: close my eyes and.
Speaker 6: Taste, so I had a boy of yours, is like
Speaker 6: I hate a bout of mine? All right, fine, I
Speaker 6: think in fairness, you need to see.
Speaker 2: You to see what say it? What he said, it's
Speaker 2: the end.
Speaker 4: It's the apple taste.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's anying different.
Speaker 6: I Mine tastes way better.
Speaker 2: Of course you would think that you're the competition. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I just ate yours and just ate mine.
Speaker 3: I spit yours in my pocket and I'm meaning mine
Speaker 3: at Okay, have you.
Speaker 1: Taste some Fred's? Is good? I do? I think I
Speaker 1: like Zach's better, though, man, let me go on more time.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what if I'm gonna lose.
Speaker 1: So the man that can't taste that, the man can't
Speaker 1: take needed to get a where's in turn? Caroline, She's
Speaker 1: gonna come in see. I try to be I know,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be impartial here because that's one that's
Speaker 1: the thing. It's it's a chocolate chip cookie. It's like,
Speaker 1: it's not only so much you can do. I will
Speaker 1: eat the ones one of those, like the famous amous,
Speaker 1: like those are good.
Speaker 6: I like chocolate crunchy. I like soft cookies.
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, like a tard soft
Speaker 1: chocolate chip.
Speaker 4: I mean, what kind of chocolate did this that?
Speaker 6: It's uh, bacon chocolate, semi sweet bacon chop.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why I like it. It's like dark chocolate
Speaker 1: kind of.
Speaker 6: It's got a little bit more like cocoa.
Speaker 4: I do like.
Speaker 1: I prefer that taste.
Speaker 6: It's not overpowers.
Speaker 2: He needs ammonia.
Speaker 6: So the big difference between mine and his is that
Speaker 6: I use brown butter.
Speaker 2: Brown, but you don't even know what color.
Speaker 6: But I you, okay, you didn't do that.
Speaker 2: All right, we don't have no one. I'm going to
Speaker 2: break off a piece and her taste it what cookies?
Speaker 1: Right? So so we have a tie, and it's close.
Speaker 1: So Tannas said fred I said Zach.
Speaker 2: I take the dude with the taste, but as they
Speaker 2: weark this is who I take.
Speaker 1: But we brought it in turned Caroline, our fantasy football
Speaker 1: experts to break the tie. There's no microphone there's no
Speaker 1: microphone for us. We're gonna have to switch it up.
Speaker 1: Jason's going to get the cookies right now, he's mixing
Speaker 1: them up. She's got her eyes closed. Where's Jason. He's
Speaker 1: coming out here at some point. La hey man, all right,
Speaker 1: so here you go. Here's the moment of truth. Jason's
Speaker 1: walking the cookie over. He's placing half a cookie in
Speaker 1: her hand. There is no discerning.
Speaker 6: Let's just wait.
Speaker 1: Let's just wait. They said cookie, al right, dook, you
Speaker 1: taste all right, shoeing, Let's see what we got here.
Speaker 4: I won't say nothing yet.
Speaker 1: His eyes are still closed. Very committed to this flying test,
Speaker 1: which we probably should have done, given that.
Speaker 2: Unless's going for the second bite.
Speaker 1: Kind of kind of a little like, really, this is
Speaker 1: a lot. We'll see. Let's chocolate chip cookie please?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Water, yeah, let her wash down down that cookie?
Speaker 2: Yeah, clean that palate.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's the first cookie. Do you need to
Speaker 1: give us your notes now, Carolina, or do you want
Speaker 1: to wait?
Speaker 4: No, wait till she she tasted the other one.
Speaker 1: She's got it, okay, gogging it that clear that out.
Speaker 2: I want it out. I don't want nothing.
Speaker 3: I want no hits on the other one.
Speaker 1: Oh, all right, she's chewing again, cookie too.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 1: Very contemplative here, very deliberate, lots of choose like that
Speaker 1: guy on Instagram who's always chewing the food. Yeah, gotta
Speaker 1: get over the taste buds. Two bites. Those were those
Speaker 1: were willing bites.
Speaker 2: It was a lid bit.
Speaker 1: Oh. Now we've asked for the other, for the other
Speaker 1: cookie back want she wanted a cooking day. You're gonna
Speaker 1: taste it one more time.
Speaker 2: It's getting deep.
Speaker 1: It's getting deep. We're in it. We're in the cut now,
Speaker 1: guys smelling this ain't back.
Speaker 6: This is about taste liked.
Speaker 2: No, it's not. You want what I mean? This is it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, her eyes, her eyes are so closed, by the way, Oh,
Speaker 1: because you saw them, that's right, she said. Her eyes
Speaker 1: are so closed because she knows what they look like.
Speaker 2: You know, they left hand cook it every time.
Speaker 4: That one upset.
Speaker 1: So so Caroline, you have a mic. But what what
Speaker 1: why why did you go with the right hand the
Speaker 1: right hand cookie a little better, a little better?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right, Fred.
Speaker 1: So let me say this. You made a good cookie,
Speaker 1: a little thin, and I think.
Speaker 2: This taste, she said, this is a little thing went
Speaker 2: right back.
Speaker 6: Oh cook it, I mean obviously, So I don't.
Speaker 2: Think you want to me.
Speaker 1: I think I like, I like to cook you a
Speaker 1: little bit better. Oh wait, you on the grind, my goda.
Speaker 6: Just like you.
Speaker 2: Hey, that's where I'm from. We got a ten second
Speaker 2: rule that.
Speaker 1: Can still be eight. But what did you what else
Speaker 1: you put in heat? Is there like cinnamon or something?
Speaker 2: There?
Speaker 6: No, no cinnamon.
Speaker 1: It's like there's something in here.
Speaker 6: I like it's so it's it's in the brown butter.
Speaker 1: It but that's what it is.
Speaker 6: Cook like, So what you're tasting is the brown bits
Speaker 6: that from the butter. So it separates the milk fast
Speaker 6: and turns them into solids.
Speaker 2: There's that's why mine tastes different.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: I told him.
Speaker 6: First off, to get going to get your vote.
Speaker 5: I want you to get and I want you to
Speaker 5: I want you to get my boat. I want you
Speaker 5: I feel I give you my boat way since you
Speaker 5: have n't.
Speaker 1: What did you think, Jason? Jason, he can't be in
Speaker 1: the can't be in the race though, so he got
Speaker 1: just hypothetically, what was it? So Jason kept being it,
Speaker 1: you know, because he because he because Fred gives him
Speaker 1: so much crap all the time.
Speaker 6: Well, it doesn't matter. It's already three two two on.
Speaker 1: I win so slight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you like thick cookies and I got some salt. Mmm.
Speaker 1: I think that's what it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who old sot you ain't supposed to taste it?
Speaker 1: No you are. Yeah, but it was so I will
Speaker 1: say that was There was a slightly more rugging.
Speaker 4: Yeah, ain't.
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna allow him to call Famous Aimings up
Speaker 5: and tell him that Fred can cook his new batchel
Speaker 5: of cookies.
Speaker 4: Man, it was famous.
Speaker 3: Don't get win off of pure taste. He didn't go
Speaker 3: off for who was the think. He didn't go off
Speaker 3: for who had the most chocolate. Y'all gotta realized Zach
Speaker 3: put miniature chocolate bar.
Speaker 2: Cookies. I use regular chocolate chip.
Speaker 5: But like I told you that it was good, it
Speaker 5: was just it was just something about it afterwards.
Speaker 1: This again, and this is I think a personal thing.
Speaker 1: But like this reminds me of cookies, Like my mom
Speaker 1: used to make something about the texture of it, like
Speaker 1: it's just it.
Speaker 2: Do you remind me of my mother that she wouldn't
Speaker 2: don't raise the whole.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying, like it's
Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit personal. They're really good there,
Speaker 1: really well made, both of them. Like what I eat both? Absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, but you know it's Zachna, zach know you.
Speaker 3: Look like listen, this is who voted for you. Caroline,
Speaker 3: who was just homey esus in turn came in here
Speaker 3: she ate three cookies. Then a guy that can't smell
Speaker 3: nor taste.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, the crisch hearing you used to win would
Speaker 2: not look gookie.
Speaker 5: Okay, so so so should we take it to the office,
Speaker 5: and we are gonna take it to that have.
Speaker 6: A friend, just take this l you.
Speaker 2: Recipes you had, it's good.
Speaker 1: You like the buttery. You like the buttery.
Speaker 5: It's the buttery, you.
Speaker 6: Pick your ceiling, and you never stocking so much.
Speaker 4: That cookie was good.
Speaker 2: I can't know what I've had to deal with.
Speaker 1: It gave you that like the last little bite I
Speaker 1: got after the buttery.
Speaker 2: That's the first your yours need milk, milk.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I like zax is good though. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: the whole sentiment here, gosh, like, I'm so why am
Speaker 1: I smelling the wrong?
Speaker 3: Why am I smelling it fragrance, like sixteen times.
Speaker 4: We rock with you.
Speaker 5: So I'm you know, I'm happy that got that one man,
Speaker 5: we rock with that. But you know, I had to pick.
Speaker 4: I had to pick.
Speaker 1: But let's review real quick. So pumpkin pie Fred one, yeah,
Speaker 1: I everything.
Speaker 6: So we had we had a tie the first one.
Speaker 1: First one that was actually really good, and I liked that.
Speaker 1: Both those really good.
Speaker 6: He beat me on the when we switched sweet. It
Speaker 6: was close on the seven up cake.
Speaker 1: Dude, that was a good seven up cake.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I also about it.
Speaker 1: But oh he did, We didn't.
Speaker 2: That was there's no extra point.
Speaker 1: So what I've learned from this Fred cannot play basketball,
Speaker 1: but Fred can bake. Like nobody's business.
Speaker 6: Except for my business.
Speaker 1: But Zach, But when we started this, I think you
Speaker 1: entered with an expectation, like me, that Fred could not
Speaker 1: cook and he was just talking. But Fred is an
Speaker 1: amazing cook, and so we knew you could cook because
Speaker 1: you'd always bring bake goods to the office. But so
Speaker 1: if you guys don't know Fred, Fred says he's good
Speaker 1: at everything. So it's hard to distill like what is
Speaker 1: true and what is incorrect. So I think I think
Speaker 1: this is a win for everybody, really is what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I mean, Fred is a competent baker.
Speaker 3: He'sould a guy that gotta lose your record because would
Speaker 3: this guy, right, he's the cowboys. What the cowboys do
Speaker 3: right here? They go twelve and five in the regular season,
Speaker 3: show up in the playhouse and get blue out.
Speaker 6: But this is the game we're playing right now.
Speaker 2: And I just beat you for the first for the
Speaker 2: first and I don't think you're really beat me.
Speaker 1: And again, this is one of those This is one
Speaker 1: of those things where we go back to the office
Speaker 1: and I bet you it's like half and half.
Speaker 2: I bet you bancts in office. It's gonna be seventy
Speaker 2: to thirty me.
Speaker 1: We'll report that on the next show. By that all right,
Speaker 1: So let's gonna do it. Congratulations exactly. Oh yeah, congratulations friend.
Speaker 1: I think it's the chocolate. Man, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't even know what I'm tasting here go. Thank you
Speaker 1: guys so much for joining the show. Please make sure
Speaker 1: you take it.
Speaker 2: Taste this. How could you be a point of taste it?
Speaker 1: Cat, I'm here, I'm hosting the show, so that so
Speaker 1: there we are, all right, Thanks so much for joining
Speaker 1: in and please do it next week, cred.
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