1 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: What is up everybody? John Middlecock Three and Out Podcast, 2 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: Happy to be here before we dive in anything. Two 3 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 1: things I need to subscribe to this podcast. You like 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: the podcast Ron Collins feed Ron this feed. Subscribe to 5 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: the three and Out feed separate from Collins podcast. Also, 6 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: if you could leave a review Apple iTunes. Greatly appreciate 7 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: you doing both things. If you can, thank you, thank you. 8 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: I would shake your hand if I could now to 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: the podcast. A lot going on. Little Russell Wilson divorce 10 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 1: feels imminent. Roethlisberger Steelers, it feels like they figured out 11 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: their problems free agency, which is right around the corner. Basically, 12 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: you know when our next podcast comes out on Tuesday. 13 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: Starting Monday, we're about a week and a half away, 14 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: right it's it's the seventeen, but it really kicks off 15 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: on So we're here. Guys are getting caught left and right, 16 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: and I'll dive into that, and then of course Middlecoff 17 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: mail bag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram handle and 18 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: uh slide and shoot me a d M and I 19 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: will answer your question here up on the podcast. Very 20 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: very easy, very two thousand. You know, back in the 21 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: day used to call radio shows used to email radio shows. 22 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: Now you just direct direct message me and uh, maybe 23 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: we'll just bus a little bit in the d M 24 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: s or maybe we'll just answer your question here. You'll 25 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: have to wait to find out. Let's start with the 26 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks, and I I think at this point we 27 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: just have to call a spade a spade. Sometimes in life, breakups, divorces, 28 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: they just become inevitable that there is no way to 29 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: get around it. Hell, Kim and Kanye got a divorce. 30 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: Is that official yet? But I think they broke up. 31 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: Who would have saw that coming? Most people? But this 32 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: is one I think Pete Harold Russell Wilson none of 33 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: us saw coming unless you really maybe a beat writer 34 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: for Seattle and you knew some rumors, maybe if you 35 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: were a player on the team and you knew kind 36 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: of the you know, eroding relationship, or maybe what people 37 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: in the building thought of us, not as highly as 38 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: some of us outsiders. If you're close with Pete Carroll 39 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: and you realize you know Pete's not is in love 40 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: with Russell is many people thought you But most of 41 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: us US peons, us civilians, us as they call it, 42 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: an Augusta the patrons. We don't know that. The first 43 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: I've really learned of this stuff, like most people, is 44 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks, the last couple of months, whenever, 45 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: since this story became a story. But at this point 46 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: in time story today, Diana Rassini works for ESPN, Like 47 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: they're making calls and maybe that Seattle is not actively 48 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: looking at shopping shop him, but they're talking. Why wouldn't 49 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: you at this point? And there comes a point where 50 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 1: quarterback like a home, like a business, you never want 51 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: to get rid of an asset when it's down. I 52 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: don't know of how many people listening check the stock 53 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: market on Thursday. If you didn't, more power to you. 54 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: You avoided a blood bath. It was ugly. Whether you 55 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: have a dollar invested or whether you have ten million 56 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: dollars invested, you couldn't open up your portfolio and not 57 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: see a lot of red. Well, what do you never 58 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: want to do on red? You don't want to sell. Ideally, 59 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: you never sell a home when it's values down. Ideally, 60 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: any asset you sell or in football trade, you would 61 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: like to do at the peak of its value. Right. 62 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: My investing philosophy is pretty simple. I only buy on 63 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: days that are read, and I only sell on days 64 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: that are great. Now, I've been lucky. I've never been 65 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: in a financial pinch where I had to get a 66 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: certain amount of money. So obviously you can break your rules. 67 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes in football, you trade a player whose value plummeted 68 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: because he had a bad year. You just wanted to 69 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: get rid of them. Think of you know, Antonio Brown 70 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: with the Steelers. They didn't have a choice. They just 71 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: wanted to move on from them. They did not sell 72 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: it peak value, right, They got rid of him for 73 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: like a third round pick, basically to the Raiders. Now, 74 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: they were proven right when his life fell apart. But 75 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown had one of the great six year stretches 76 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: and they traded him for a third year, third round pick. 77 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: It was a disaster, right. A lot of people sold 78 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: homes in the two thousand and eight two thousand nine 79 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: stretch for a major, major loss. I would imagine a 80 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: lot of people sold stocks today because they freaked that. 81 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: You know what, out They said, holy shit, I'm losing 82 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: a ton of money. Sell five years ago, John, I 83 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: would have sold a lot at a loss. Today, I smiled. 84 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: I bought more because ideally, I'm only gonna sell one. 85 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: It's in the green well if you are okay, was 86 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: selling or get ridding of any asset as it feels 87 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: like Seattle is with Russell Wilson, which makes it much 88 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: more complicated because I think with the house analogy, with 89 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: a toch analogy, you can always buy another house, you 90 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: can always buy more stocks. It's not many Hall of 91 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: Fame quarterbacks are walking around on trees, right, That's just 92 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: not the way it works. It's not like you know, 93 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: on Seattle, just get rid of Russell. I don't know 94 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: the best player in the history of franchise is complicated. 95 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: But as we talked about, I think on Monday, once 96 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: you get to a point where both sides Pete and 97 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: Russell unlimited money, huge egoes, no mediating, no one to 98 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: mediate the situation, there's gonna be no counseling. Remember when 99 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: the story broke with Jared goth and Sean McVeigh that 100 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: they need marriage counseling. I want, yeah, this is over. 101 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: It's this thing as marriage counseling and football. Maybe there 102 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: is when you have Aaron Rodgers right, that you can 103 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: do some marriage counseling. The Packers weren't going to trade 104 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: him partly because the Gouda Kins couldn't. He doesn't have 105 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: the equity Matt Lafleur. That could be career suicide. Pee 106 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: Carroll's almost seven years old, He's got a hundred million 107 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: dollars in the bank, He's won a Super Bowl, been 108 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: to another one national championships. His legacy is setting stone. 109 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: Now his legacy can't improve. But he ain't worried like 110 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: it's he accomplished. What do he accomplished now? Obviously he 111 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: wants to accomplish more, he wants to win more. But 112 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: at this point you think whatever his principles are for 113 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: the reason not being on the same page with Russell, 114 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: whether he's too big of a diva, whether he's become 115 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: too big of an issue dealing like leaking this stuff 116 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: to the media kind of his nephew to management as 117 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: someone who supported him from the jump and used to 118 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: have to tell l O. B in the defense to 119 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: be nice to Russell, and now Russell's acting like he's 120 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: getting the short and in the stick. Whatever it is, 121 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: and whatever Russell's beef is, you don't let me open 122 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: up the offense. You don't ask me about players, you 123 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: don't listen to my advice to you, you don't build 124 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: the offense around whatever it is. It feels like it's 125 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: at the point where there's no coming back. There are 126 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: probably things said. It's never happened to me. I'm not 127 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: saying I haven't said things to a girlfriend or whatever. 128 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: I've never been married. But there are probably points in 129 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: time in a serious relationship, whether it's a girlfriend, whether 130 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: it's the fiance, whether it's a wife, that if you 131 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: were to something come out of your mouth, say something 132 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: about something that happened previously in your relationship or something 133 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: moving forward, there are words you can never roll back. 134 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: Whatever the equivalent of that comment is, right, if whatever 135 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: it is, something about their family, something about a previous relationship, 136 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: something about I don't know the way they look, whatever 137 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: that may be in your relation. We all know it 138 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: that the elephant in the room of a relationship that 139 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: there are a couple trigger words or trigger uh you know, 140 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: things that could just immediately a fire breaks out and 141 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: you've got a problem, and you know, just to avoid it. 142 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: And I you just wonder if things that have been 143 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: said through the media that Pete is never it's never 144 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: gonna be cool with Pete and Russell Now the irony 145 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: is this didn't just happen overnight. They had issues last 146 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: season and they went twelve and four. Because Pete and 147 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: Russell are basically to Hall of famers, they can operate 148 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: pretty well in chaos, so you could always just go 149 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: keep it going chaotically and keep winning. They won twelve games. 150 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: I was just I just recorded podcast with Guy and 151 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: we were talking like, do you know the craziest thing 152 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: about last season? The best season it felt like in 153 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: the NFC was the Green Bay Packers. They found a 154 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: harmonious relationship with their quarterback and their coach, Aaron Rodgers 155 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: won the m v P. Matt Lafleura looked like became 156 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: a good, really good coach, like the Green Bay Packers 157 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: or back rolling. They won one more game than Seattle. 158 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: Yet the way we talked about Seattles like barn shambles, rustling, 159 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: Pete hate each other, they got issues and holes all 160 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: over their roster. They won one more game than them. 161 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: Think about that, so it just shows you how this 162 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: is my why I keep going back to the Seattle 163 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: well like they're pretty high level operation. Even when ship 164 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: is chaotic, they still win a lot. I think how 165 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: many teams would would die for that type of record. 166 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: I think we all know about twenty of the thirty 167 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: two teams in the NFL every single year. Hell, maybe 168 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: more would have no problem. Hell maybe teams every year 169 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: will be at twelve and four will take it right 170 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: now before the season. But it just I I don't 171 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: I just don't see them rolling it back. If you 172 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: had to ask me what percent he's on the team, 173 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: I would have said, like a couple of weeks ago, 174 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: you know, it feels like fifty fifty, but what's the 175 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: rush Now? It's like, I'll be kind of surprised of Russell. 176 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: Wilson stays and you know, there's only I think if 177 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: you're Seattle, you need to use some of your leverage. Like, listen, Russell, 178 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: we don't think you want to be here. He'd be like, yeah, true, 179 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: well you need to open you have a no trade clause? 180 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: Uh can you what about the Jets? What about Miami? 181 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: Will you work with us? Because if you work with us, 182 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: we'll be open to trading because I need The Saints 183 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: have nothing to give. The Bears have nothing to give. 184 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 1: The Cowboys. They have the tenth pick, but other than that, 185 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: they have nothing to give Seattle does not walk Dak 186 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: Prescott who makes thirty seven million dollars and wants a 187 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: contract worth fifty million dollars. To me, the aren't good 188 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: options for Seattle. Part of this is listening, Russ. We 189 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: will trade you. It's gotta be good for us. The 190 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: Raiders make a lot of sense. They give Derek Carr, 191 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: they give countless ones like they get a quarterback. You 192 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: can't just trade Russell to the Saints for four ones 193 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: and you have no quarterback. Makes no sense. Now if 194 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: you're Seattle, what I think you're doing is like, listen, Russ, 195 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: would you be open to go into Miami or the Jets, 196 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: because if you will, then we will start a legit 197 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: bidding and we'll trade you. It will happen soon. Hell, 198 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: we'll trade you by beginning a free agency. But you 199 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: gotta give us options whether and I don't know John 200 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: Schneider knows this. Where does he have you know, the 201 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: Justin Field, Zack Wilson, Mac Jones, Trey Lance crew of quarterbacks? 202 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: What does he think of Derek Carr? Because to me, 203 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: he'd have to get one of those two assets to 204 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: pull the trigger and make this trade. Because I'm not 205 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: just trading him the Saints for a bunch of picks. 206 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: I don't give a shit about the picks if I 207 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: have no quarterback. Here's what I know. A seven year 208 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: old guy who's really rich and Pete Carroll's not gonna 209 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: want to do loose. He's gonna want to keep winning. 210 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: Who gives him that chance? Well, darre car in some 211 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: first round picks would give him the chance because they 212 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: could think, well, we might not be as good at quarterback, 213 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: but we can use that seventeenth pick we get from 214 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: the Raiders to maneuver because we don't have any picks 215 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: because we traded for Jamal Adams and some of the 216 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: cap space that we saved with Russell for the trade 217 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: by a player or two, or we go. We'll trade 218 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: him if we can convince him to open up his 219 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: mind to be like, go to the Jets, go to Miami, 220 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: good for business. Uh, And we'll trade you if we 221 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: really like a mac jones a trade lance, so justin 222 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: fields or whatever, and then get a really cheap asset 223 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: and do it. But also, you know, trade Russell for 224 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: a lot because he's in peak value right now. Russell 225 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: Wilson is legitimately the opposite of the Thursday stock market. 226 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: His his stock has never been higher. He just arguably 227 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: the best season of his career. He's in the peak 228 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: of his powers. He's under contract, he's in his early thirties, 229 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: he's a healthy guy. Like it's is, stock couldn't be 230 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: any higher. So this is when you sell right. You 231 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: don't sell part of I'll give the Raiders credit John 232 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: Routen for as crappy as his tenure has been, and 233 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: it has not been good Middle Coffle, are you Pg. 234 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: Thirteen shitty? It's been shitty? Okay? Does that make everyone 235 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: feel better? He has increased Derek Carr's value because when 236 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: he showed up, Derek wasn't shambles. Three years later, Derek's 237 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: playing well and he's worth a first round pick. He 238 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: deserves credit for that. So like, if you are going 239 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: to trade to Derek Carr, you do it when his 240 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: value is high if you can get another quarterback. The 241 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: difference is other positions, like you trade a guy when 242 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: his values high because you need more picks or whatever, 243 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: like the Niners did last year with the Force Buck. 244 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: You don't do that at quarterback unless you have a replacement. Because, 245 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: as we saw last year with the Patriots Brady Leaves, 246 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: they have nothing. That's what happens to most teams. Most 247 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: teams aren't just like, oh, let's go from Far to Rogers, 248 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: Let's go for Manning to Luck. That's usually not how 249 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: it works. It's usually like, let's go to l Way 250 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: to a bunch of random, crappy players. That's usually the 251 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: way it works. And the thing is, when you get 252 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: to trade a player, you're in a little control. With 253 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: free agency, you never know with a trade though, Seattle 254 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: actually has some leverage here too, and I think they 255 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: can work together, and this is where luckily it's not 256 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: as ugly like the Seawan in the Houston situation. I 257 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: do think they can work together, especially if Russell is 258 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: open to another team or two and probably figure it 259 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: out and get a lot back and get a quarterback. 260 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: Whether that's whether they value Sam Donald, whether they obviously 261 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: value Derek Carr, and I know right now I'm talking 262 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: hypotheticals because Russell's list is four teams. Well, to me, 263 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: if his list four teams, he would be open to 264 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: other teams. Do you really want to get traded or 265 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: do you just you just wanted to put those four 266 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: teams out there, so the rest of us knew that 267 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: you were mad at Pete. That's what I think we're 268 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: gonna find out in the next couple of weeks. But 269 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: my guess right now, if you have to ask me, 270 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: is Russell Wilson gonna be the quarterback of Seattle in 271 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: the fall? I would lean no, Now I'm not, I'm 272 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: not even, but I'd say I'm probably leading trading. And 273 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: if you had to go, who's he traded to, I'm 274 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: gonna go, well, a team that can give Seattle back 275 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: quarterback because under no circumstances they traded him without getting 276 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: a quarterback back. That that just makes zero sense. So 277 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: this is a story that when the season ended we 278 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: never expected to get right. We just thought, oh, there's 279 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: rough ending for Seattle. But we're here now. And UH, 280 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: as a content creator and someone who needs stories, especially 281 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: in the slow month like you know, February, no combine 282 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: early March, Thank you, Seattle. I appreciate it. Fox Sports 283 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 284 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot 285 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: com and within the I Heart Radio app. Search f 286 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: s R to listen live. Okay, let's dive into a 287 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: little story that I saw. I think I saw it 288 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: on Twitter this morning that the Steelers have signed a 289 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: new contract with Ben Roethlisberger and the headline reads a 290 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: lot better than reality. And as we are seeing all 291 00:14:54,960 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: over the sport with quarterbacks, they're gaining leverage like an 292 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: NBA star, or you could even say baseball stars, right, 293 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a baseball star, you get a 294 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: stupid amount of money, Like say what you want about 295 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: Bryce Harper, a little overrated whatever, he got three thirty 296 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: million dollars. Like when you are a star player in baseball, 297 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: and there are different levels of stars, but Bryce Harper, 298 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: Mookie Betts, whoever, you're gonna get a ton you have 299 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: all the leverage. Trevor Bauer, the picture of the Dodger signed, 300 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: think about this, has signed a three year contract with 301 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: opt outs after year one and year two. I can't 302 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: imagine being a baseball GM Like you think it's bad 303 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: in the NBA, when the NBA, unless your owner forces 304 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: on you, you don't have to sign Karl Anthony Towns 305 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: two hundred eighty million dollars. No one forced the Sacramento 306 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: Kings to give Daron Fox a hundred seventy five million 307 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: dollars did that on their own volition. In baseball, like 308 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: to get a sweet All Star player, you gotta give 309 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: him a bunch of optouts. You know. In basketball you 310 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: just have to overpay non stars just it's kind of 311 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: a crappy position right now. You have no problem paying 312 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: Mookie Bets or Price Harbor. We can argue all day 313 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: long Erran Judge, whoever. The top players, just like in basketball, 314 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: have no problem paying Steph Curry, no problem paying Katie, 315 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: no problem paying Lebron Kauai. Those guys are worth their money. 316 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: It's the next level guy in football. You know, we 317 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: saw it with Goff and Wentz. We thought both guys 318 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: were gonna be stars. They got paid like it, and 319 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: then it backfire. Neither guys on their team now and Dac, 320 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: who didn't get paid, is kind of going through the 321 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: franchise tag thing that Kirk Cousins is going through. But 322 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: the reality is, with all these guys I've mentioned, Kirk 323 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: Cousins has got fully guaranteed contracts back to back years. 324 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: Right he signed the original contact contract in Minnesota fully guaranteed, 325 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: and then he essentially did the same with a contract 326 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: extension not quite fully guaranteed, but it was a ton 327 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: of money. Because quarterbacks, if you're just a top fifteen guy, 328 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: you have all the leverage. Obviously if you're Mahomes, Josh 329 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: Allen now probably even a little bit in Lamar, but 330 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: even Kirk Cousins, Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, Roethlisberger. The contract 331 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: extension essentially saves them fifteen million dollars this year, and 332 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: it spreads the cap hit over a couple of years. 333 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: They essentially said the big band, listen, Ben, do you 334 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: want to end your career on another team? Because are 335 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 1: you still any good? We question that, but because our 336 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: options are limited, we would like you to come back. 337 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: But there is not a snowball's chance in hell that 338 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna come back on the number that you're under 339 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: contract for. This is one of the rare times that 340 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: a playoff team for how disastrous the the almost like 341 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. Remember the Cleveland Browns killed absolutely boat 342 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: raced the Steelers in a playoff game, and as we know, 343 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: that final month of the season, the Steelers were leaking 344 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: oil fast. They started hot eleven and oh or whatever, 345 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: finished twelve and four. But they don't want twelve and 346 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: four hosted a home playoff game, but they were trending 347 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: the wrong way. And the Steelers one of the best 348 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: organizations in the history of sports. You could argue one 349 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: of the just the better run businesses of like the 350 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: last forty years in America, the Pittsburgh Steelers, the brand, 351 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: the consistent winning, the three total coaches over that period 352 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 1: of time they have been You can argue the bar 353 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: right six career Lombardies or is it five? Was? Was? 354 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: Was Drone Bettest the sixth? Sorry Steeler Nation, you're probably 355 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: mad at me. Don't don't have all your history, but 356 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: you're in a lead organization, football or non football, any business. 357 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: And this was a time in a day and age 358 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: when the quarterbacks Deshaun Watson, screw you, Houston, I'm not 359 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: playing Russell Wilson, I want to trade to these four teams. 360 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, I'm only want to go to the these 361 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: two or three places. Most quarterbacks have all the leverage. Roethlisberger, 362 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: a first ballot Hall of Famer, had none here. He 363 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: had no choice. Okay, big Ben, you want to go 364 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: to the Bears, and if you're not good, the team 365 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: would stink. Do you want to go risk it with 366 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: the Washington football team, even though I actually think the 367 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: Bears watching football team, typically it's terrible teams. If you 368 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: were a quarterback and you ended up with one of 369 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: those teams, are actually pretty well suited for you to 370 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: just have some success. Or do you want to end 371 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: your career as a Pittsburgh Steeler, a lifetime Pittsburgh Steeler 372 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: because unlike Tom, who had a bunch of leverage, because 373 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: deep down he still knew he was good, even if 374 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: I didn't think he was just gonna be as good 375 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: as he was this year, forty touchdowns in Tampa. I mean, 376 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: that's pretty crazy. Then we all know you're trending in 377 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: the wrong direction and you just had a devastating elbow injury. 378 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: You want to stay. Here's the deal, And that's basically 379 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: what happened. And now he's I would expect him did, 380 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: which is cool, which to me still matters. And I'm listen, 381 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: I think the word quote unquote loyalty. You know, I'm 382 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: big into conditional loyalty. You know, It's like, I think 383 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: loyalty can be overrated because the moment you screw me 384 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: over or the moment you do things I don't agree with, Like, 385 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: I'm not going down with the ship. Hell, even if 386 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: it's your family. Like if I'm loyal to my brother, 387 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: but what if my brother robs me, Right, we're not 388 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: good friends anymore. Right, I have conditional loyalty to everything. 389 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: Now people I'm really close with. It takes a lot 390 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: for me to break that loyalty. But and maybe it's 391 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: because you get fired in your twenties. You're kind of 392 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: thrown to the real world. Working in the NFL. You're like, goddamn, 393 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: this is this world is not very loyal. Happened to 394 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: me again in the radio business, just kind of opened 395 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: your eyes. I'm conditionally loyal, but when there's a brand 396 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: associated with you. Roethlisberger is not going to be the 397 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: quarterback of a super Bowl team next year non Steelers. 398 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: And I'm not even saying the Steelers are gonna compete 399 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: for this, but by far his best chance to be 400 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: competitive next year is in Pittsburgh. Plus his legacy. Like 401 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: I I do think it's pretty cool that only play 402 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: for one team. That doesn't really happen anymore the day 403 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: and ages of l ways In hell, even Kobe would 404 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: probably be the most recent guy, most elite Hall of 405 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: Fame players play their career on multiple teams. Hell, several teams. 406 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: Brady more than likely is gonna end with two. But 407 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: that's two. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, the two best 408 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks the last twenty years, are gonna play for two 409 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: separate teams each. Rogers, you wouldn't think, but hell, Tom 410 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: didn't leave team till he was forty two. So I 411 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: think Roethlisberger didn't have as much lever because they knew 412 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: he wants them. And I think one thing that helped Roethlisburger, 413 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: and this was my beef with J. J. Watt. When 414 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: you have an unlimited amount of money and Roethlisberger has 415 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: way more, I think I I looked it up the 416 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: other day, was over two hundred million dollars. Roethlisberger has 417 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: made a ton of a ton of cash. I just 418 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: want to get the number right because I actually feel 419 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: like I'm low balling it now that I said it 420 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: out loud. I think his number might be like two 421 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: fifty career millions. Roethlisberger's career earnings done to the done. 422 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess right now before I look. I think 423 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: it's two thirty seven his career earnings after two thousand, 424 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: twenty two hundred and fifty three million dollars. Let me 425 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: repeat that, Ben Roethlisberger, as a member of the Steelers 426 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: has made two hundred and fifty three million dollars, So 427 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: he's made more than two and a half times what J. J. 428 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: Watt has made. Now, obviously he's played in the legal longer. 429 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: But my ultimate point is money. Even taking a little 430 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: pay cut this year, given money back or allowing the 431 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: salary cap rooms some uh their teams some flexibility his life. 432 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about generational wealth that that is 433 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 1: a stupid amount of money. I would imagine right now 434 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: currently now it'll change because the money is only gonna 435 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: get more inflated. He's one of the highest paid players 436 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: in the history of the sport, so it's probably easier. 437 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: Plus the Steelers knew, like their leverage is one he 438 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: doesn't want to leave and too money, Like he's made 439 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: a ton and we have some leverage here and they 440 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: used it. And now Roethlisberger, my guests would be, you know, 441 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: the way Roethlisberger is, it'll it'll either be announced or 442 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: kind of leaked or maybe just implied. This is gonna 443 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: be his last season, and whether they draft a quarterback, 444 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: it probably doesn't make sense for them to like trade 445 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: for Sam Donald, because you will You're not gonna waste 446 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: one of his cheap years behind Roethlisberger is this can 447 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: be kind of his swan song and hopefully he has 448 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: enough in the tank. You're gonna have to get a 449 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: better backup. Do you just try to win this way? 450 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: But in a day and age when the quarterbacks have 451 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: all the juice when it comes to leverage, Roethlisberger is 452 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: one of the rare guys. Now. Part of it is 453 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: he's just not as good anymore. Didn't have much. One 454 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: thing I get a lot on this show because I've 455 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: mentioned it several times, like how I want to buy 456 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: a house in Arizona, in Scott's Dale, Tempe, just that 457 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: just that area, And I get texts all the times 458 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: or d m s like, Bro, you're really gonna leave California? 459 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: Why are you moving? What are you doing? It's not 460 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: that complicated for me. Where I live right now in 461 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: the East Bay, so about twenty minutes away from Oakland, 462 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: kind of towards Sacramento has these areas called Alamo, Dan 463 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: Villain pleasanton. I like the suburbs. I'm a suburb guy. 464 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: But to buy a house that I would like to 465 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: buy around this area, it would easily cost over two 466 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: million dollars, and that house, I gotta be honest with you, 467 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: ain't even that nice. Then when you factor in that, 468 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: I have a business that I can kind of do wherever. Well, 469 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: the most anti business state in America buy a mile 470 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: right now, is California. It's the most expensive to get 471 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: off the ground. It's the most expensive in terms of 472 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 1: any sort of for us you want to run out. 473 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: The taxes are by far the highest in the country, 474 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: so it goes it's the most expensive place to live, 475 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: it's the most expensive place to do business. And then 476 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: the last twelve months of all the lockdowns and shutdowns, 477 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: no one was more extreme than California, and it's been 478 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: proven it didn't even work. So it's like the pro 479 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: business states, the Texas is, the air Zonas, the Florida's 480 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: they've been open up and it's cheaper to live there. 481 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: But I was thinking this before Corona, just based on like, 482 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't pencil. I don't have an unlimited amount of money, 483 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: and if I want a big gass house, Like why why? 484 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: And even if I have two and a half million dollars, 485 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: why would I buy a house I don't even think 486 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: that nice. That's fucking insanity to why so many people 487 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: outside of the state of California like you are crazy 488 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: for living there now. I'm born and raised here. I 489 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: am a California person at heart. I love the state. 490 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: I like being on the west. I'm a West Coast guy. 491 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: But there gets to a point where it just does 492 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: not pencil. It does not make any sense. Whether this 493 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: market right now, it's crazy Corona hit. Everyone's moved to 494 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: the bourbs. It's actually got way more expensive in like 495 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: a twenty mile radius of me right now than it 496 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: was a year ago. Pre Corona, give or take, is 497 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: up around me. It's out of control now. But even 498 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: before it was up, I didn't have that much interest 499 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: in spending what I have to spend to stay here, 500 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: mainly because I'm not stuck here, like my job is 501 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: not I don't have to be here, and I can 502 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: just keep real estate and go back and forth. But 503 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: I I can't fathom buying something that I don't even 504 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: think that nice for like a hundred and fifty cents 505 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: on the dollar when I go to when I look 506 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: in Vegas or I look in Scott's Dale, and I'm like, 507 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: you could live like a fucking king for a million 508 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: dollar house. And if I did have two million dollars, 509 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: I really be living like a king. But it's hard 510 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: to get there when you're getting tax left and right 511 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: in the state. So it's just it's just based on money. 512 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: My mom lives forty five minutes away from me, so 513 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: it was my brother got family and friends here. But 514 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm a businessman like it. Just if it doesn't pencil, 515 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense, mainly because the California real 516 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: estate market. Now, other real estate markets in different areas 517 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: are definitely booming, but it's the difference is here. If 518 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: it goes up are the bar was already so high. 519 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: I get. I get real estate guys in Vague or 520 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: in a Tempe they're trying to do business. And listen 521 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: to this show the Middle Coff If you moved to Tempe, 522 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: I want to be a real estate guy. And they 523 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: send me these you know, different Zillos or whatever, and 524 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: they go check out all these houses and there, you 525 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: know whatever, eight thousand dollars that down the street from 526 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: me would go for like two point two. So you're 527 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: just like, well, if I if I just had two 528 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: and a half million dollars in cash, would I be 529 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: better off buying that house for a million dollars and 530 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: having one point five million dollars cash also in my 531 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 1: pocket to do whatever I wanted to do. I could 532 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: buy an office down there, rent an office. I could 533 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: invest the market after today, it's really cheap because everything's 534 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: down by the time you're listening to this. Hopefully Friday 535 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: is not as ugly. So it just gets the point like, 536 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: I'm not in at this point in time in my 537 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: life paying a hundred and fifty cents on the dollar. 538 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: It just does not make sense. And when you get 539 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: into NFL free agency, if a guy is a good player, 540 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: like a a borderline pro bowler, let's just use jannikin 541 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: dock Way if he would if you were going to 542 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: extend him on your own team early, and he's a 543 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen million dollar player the moment he hits the 544 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: open market, it's why everyone wants to get free agency. 545 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: He is worth a duty cents on the dollar you 546 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: have to pay if he's a fifteen million dollar player 547 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 1: on the open market, he's going for nineteen twenty. If 548 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: you're an average player, Let's say, and when I say average, 549 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: I mean we'd all die for this type salary. If 550 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: you're just you're just average at your job and you 551 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: get paid six million dollars. Let's just say you're a 552 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: solid starting right guard and you're value in the league. 553 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: Non free agency is like a five or six million 554 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: dollar player. If the equivalent of that player hits free agency, 555 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: he's getting ten or eleven. We see it every year now. 556 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: Obviously this year with Corona the cap coming down, there's 557 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: not as much money out there, but that does not 558 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: change the fact that guys get overpaid in free agency 559 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: because all it takes is multiple teams bidding for you. 560 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: And I think the thing we have to be careful 561 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: of as NFL fans and people listening of your specific team, 562 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: it is very, very risky to sign higher end players. 563 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: It's one thing to an extend a free agent at 564 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: a lot of money. Let's say the Cowboys last year, 565 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: remember they let him are hit free agency, and they 566 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: gave him a hundred million dollars and they guaranteed sixty 567 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: Amory just makes he's a twenty million dollar a year player. 568 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: I know the way they do it with the cap, 569 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: it's just I just look at it. Twenty year, five years, 570 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: give him sixty million dollars, so it's essentially a three 571 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: year contract. But they already had a Mari. They had 572 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: some success with them. Are so yeah, do I love 573 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: paying them? Are sixty million dollars guaranteed? I don't. But 574 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,719 Speaker 1: I've already had him, and I had a pretty good 575 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: idea what he was and what he's not. Then obviously 576 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,719 Speaker 1: this year it went pretty well. He had a career year, 577 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: even though the team was shitty. It wasn't his fault. 578 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: A lot of times, though, when you signed the equivalent 579 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: of a Mare that's not in your team, that's where 580 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: you can get, you know, getting too tough positions. You 581 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: can find yourself in predicaments because you're gonna have to 582 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: overpay for eight million dollar player. You're gonna have to 583 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: give him twelve or thirteen a year. So that immediately 584 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: that extra four or five million dollars you're giving a 585 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: guy in free agency takes away another player that you 586 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: would have on your team, potentially multiple So it limits 587 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: your team building. And then there's a huge risk why 588 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: is that player on the open market. There's a reason 589 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: if you just think in recent memory, beside the guys 590 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: that were traded for two ones and a two right, 591 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: Jalen Jamal, Khalil Mack. We all acknowledge those teams like 592 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: just bad business. But those guys. Every team in the 593 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: league would want those guys. But you see guys like 594 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: two names that's stand out to me too, probably future 595 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: Hall of famers Richard Sherman and J. J. Watt right 596 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: where free agents. JJ was cut this year, Richard was 597 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: cut several years ago. Those guys had already signed contract 598 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: extensions with their original team. G G want to sign 599 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: multiple contract with the Texans. Richard had already signed a 600 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: massive extension with Seattle. So those guys are hitting the 601 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: open market for a reason, right. The team is basically 602 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: shorting their injury, which isn't that big a deal. It's 603 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: very understandable. It's like, okay, older players just part of 604 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: the league. Right. If you have a if you're a 605 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: non quarterback, I'd say anywhere between eight to a ten 606 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: year run with your original drafting team is very very successful. 607 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: You were good enough to get extended. You were clearly 608 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: probably a really good player, and you're a core piece 609 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: of a team, and typically if your team is good, 610 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: that's how a guy like that stays for a long 611 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: period of time. But when I get a guy who 612 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: is four or five years into his career off his 613 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: rookie contract, hits the open market, I read flag that 614 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: because any guy worth their salt unless I trade you, 615 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: like I said with Jamal Adams some of those guys. 616 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: But I'm just letting you hit the open market. The 617 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: best I can get as a team is a third 618 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: round back in the camp in the compensatory picks, and 619 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: people are like middlecoff. Can you explain that, I'm not 620 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,479 Speaker 1: a capologist. It's you know, the cliff note version. If 621 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: a someone signs a player or your players that hit 622 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: free agency million dollars and you spend way less than 623 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: that in free agency, then you get better picks. But 624 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: if you let guys go and then you spend the 625 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: money that all those guys get on other players, then 626 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of a wash. Is the cliff note version? 627 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: Is obviously way more complicated than that, But just know this, 628 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: I I I'm hesitating. I'm not buying a pizza. Real 629 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: estate here in the Bay Area why I don't think 630 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: it's worth it. It does not pencil for me. Now, 631 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: sometimes in football you have a need, you are a 632 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: desperate position for a defensive end, but just say it 633 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: out loud like Usually the worst deals happen in desperate situations. 634 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: I e. J. J. Watt, for example. They gave him 635 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: probably too much money, but that was the only way 636 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: they could get them. So the janikn Dock ways that 637 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: Allen Robinson's whoever. I mean, these guys are really good players. 638 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: Just know to get them on your team, you have 639 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: to make them probably the highest paid player at your position. 640 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: So the teams that signed these type players are gonna 641 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: get a ton of credit. Fans are gonna be really excited. 642 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: Most of them are not gonna work out, and most 643 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: of them are gonna be very, very overpaid. There's a 644 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: reason a lot of the good teams typically shop the 645 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: second week the third week because it's way cheaper. Then 646 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: there's way less pressure when you miss, and you have 647 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: way more flexibility getting rid of that player. It just 648 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: allows you. Typically the guys I want to pay huge 649 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: money or guys on my team are guys that I 650 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: know in and out thoroughly. There's a reason that Belichick 651 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: and Brady they won the most. They extended the guys 652 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: they really liked, even people act like they traded everybody, 653 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: the guys they loved, the Gronks, the Richard C. Moore's, 654 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: the Logan Mankins, the whoever's got second contracts in that operation, 655 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: Devin mccordy Edelman. They extend guys now they cut bait 656 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: year seven, eight nine, but they don't shop big ticket 657 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: because there's typically a red flag there and way over priced. Okay, 658 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: let's do a little middle cuff mail back. Let's just 659 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: dive right into it from l D question for the pod. 660 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: Shouldn't Pete Carroll bear most of the responsibility for Russ's 661 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: frustration in Seattle's inability return to the Super Bowl. He 662 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: was under five his first two seasons. He did take 663 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: over a terrible team. The second year, most of his 664 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: famous defense was in place. Russ arrives at the team 665 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: wins eleven games year one and wins it all the 666 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: second year. I mean, they had the best defense in 667 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: the league and a dominant running back. Since two thousand sixteen, 668 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm like adding, as he's talking, my own opinion. Since 669 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: two sixteen, the defense has struggled in their draft picks 670 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: at been terrible, and he's in control of personnel. In 671 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 1: two thousand and eighteen they drafted Penny who's a bust. Agree. 672 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: Nineteen call year reached a defensive end. Agree. And when 673 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: they chose a safety in round two, who's now their nickelback? 674 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: Before getting lucky with d K it's not. You can't 675 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: say they get lucky with picks and they miss picks, 676 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: like you hit on your picks and you miss on 677 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: your picks the Texas Tech linebacker over l s U 678 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: s Pat McQueen, Pat queen, I think McQueen queen. I 679 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: know Russ is a fraudulent diva, but maybe all of 680 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: these trash decisions is why he is a stick of possess. 681 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: I think it goes both ways. I mean, Russ does 682 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: not have a Super Bowl if he's not on a 683 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: elite team, number one scoring defense in the league. And 684 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 1: Mark Shawn Lynch they had an elite team, an unstoppable defense. 685 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: We've seen Russ with great offenses and bad defense. He 686 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: can't win like this is a team game. Pete bears responsibility. 687 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: Have they missed on picks? Of course, Belichick misses on picks. Uh, 688 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: the Steelers miss on picks. You know the Chiefs, they 689 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: miss on picks. I'm sure they have miss on that 690 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: mean Sammy Watkins. If they could do that one over again, 691 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: they probably wouldn't assigned him to the big money a 692 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. And I know they like him, 693 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: but it's just they paid him a lot. Like everyone 694 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: misses him. You know when I say mr is like 695 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: obviously with Sean Penny is a massive miss because they 696 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 1: could have had Nick Chubb. It's it's not ideal. But 697 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: you know what does Russ think? Only Tom Brady goes 698 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: Super Bowl every year? No one else goes to Super 699 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: Bowl every year, Not Peyton Manning, now Brett Farve, not 700 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, now Steve Young, not always go the history 701 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: of the league, but even just the last couple of decades, Roethlisberger, No, 702 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: stop comparing yourself to Tom Brady. Every other quarterback win 703 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl or two. Your a legend, Russ, you're 704 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: a legend. You don't get to go Super Bowl every year. 705 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 1: It's not the way it works. It's too hard. So 706 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: I don't really know what else to say. Beside I 707 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: think his expectations and which you should have huge expectations, right, 708 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 1: no one should have bigger expectations, uh, any high achiever 709 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: than themselves for themselves and for what they do professionally. 710 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 1: I understand that, but I also think you have to 711 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: be realistic. It'd be like a guy, you know, he's 712 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: making thirty million dollars a year, but he's jealous of 713 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: the guy is making a hundred million dollars a year. Well, 714 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: you're doing pretty well making thirty million dollars a year. 715 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 1: Business is a movement. Could it be better? Of course, 716 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: because whether in business, whether in sports, unless you're Tom Brady, 717 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: it can always be better. But I think we're comparing 718 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: him to Brady. It doesn't get any better. He fucking 719 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: wins the Super Bowl. It feels like every year that 720 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: he's the all time outlier. I even saw today on 721 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: social media Joe Montana was like, yeah, he's the goat. 722 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: You know what? What what can I even say said it? 723 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: I just I think Russell Wilson, like, You've had an 724 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: incredible career. You make the Pro Bowl every year, You're 725 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 1: gonna go down as a first ballt Hall of Famer. 726 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: You're the best player in the history of the franchise. 727 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,720 Speaker 1: You Resid, you helped, you helped resurrect the franchise. Sherman 728 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: and Earl Thomas and Pete those guys that are credit 729 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: to I just think I think Russell's I don't know. 730 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: And listen, I'm all for being positive and all for 731 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: shooting for the stars, but there's a balance between like 732 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: shooting for the stars and being realistic. Right, what do 733 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: you think about Kyle van Noy? Is the Dolphins preparing 734 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: to make a move for to Sean well too fold. 735 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 1: I saw that he wasn't happy that he got cut 736 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: team captain. It's like, bro, I don't pretend to have 737 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: studied Calvinoy this year with the Dolphins, solid player to 738 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: get paid fifteen million dollars. Like see, the NFL doesn't 739 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: utter their contracts. No literally in the contract. If it 740 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: says they can cut you after a year, that's the 741 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: fucking contract. It bothers me so much when I see 742 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: people like they didn't know utter the contract. No, the 743 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: contract literally says they can get out whenever they want. 744 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: If you and I have a contract for you to 745 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: take out my trash every day for a year and 746 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay you ten grand and you take out 747 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: my contract or my trash every day for a year 748 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: and I don't pay you any money, that's not honoring 749 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: the contract. Or I pay you five grand, You're like, 750 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: where's my other five grand? That's not honoring the contract 751 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 1: if I can if in that contract it says well 752 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: after two months, I can break the contract and I 753 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 1: only have to pay you two And I break the 754 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: contract after two months and I hand you two hundred dollars, 755 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: that's not not honoring the contract. It's literally following the contract. Now, 756 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. All the rumblings, Uh a little weird, 757 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: you know, it felt a little weird, But I don't know. 758 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe they just didn't think he was that good. 759 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: I don't think Kyle Vanoy is also, you know, he 760 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: made a ton of money. No one's given him fifteen 761 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: million dollars. He should be he should feel good that 762 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,959 Speaker 1: he took you know, the Dolphins gave him all that cash. 763 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: Question for the pod, what are your view on athletes 764 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: taken p DS. I personally want to see the best 765 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: athletes and peak performance, and if drugs help with that, 766 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,959 Speaker 1: especially with recovery from injuries, so be it. I also 767 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,320 Speaker 1: think we'd be naive to suggest a large percentage of 768 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: NFL isn't taking h g H at a bare minimum. 769 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: I know this is a bit loaded question, but I 770 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: love your thoughts. Not offended by p d US at all. 771 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: I am pro pd use, I'm pro enhancement. Whatever you 772 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: can do to make yourself feel better, go ahead. Uh. 773 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 1: I think people over the years have freaked out about 774 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: the reason that they test, the reason they test for, 775 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: like recreational drugs. It's not that complicated you ever. You know, 776 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: read about the way insurance companies operate. You typically have 777 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 1: to do for insurance reasons. You think, how many owners 778 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: do you think smoke weed? Or how how many owners 779 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: do you think in their six sixties seventies. If you 780 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 1: were an owner right now, if you're Jerry Jones, you're 781 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 1: in late seventies, you've never been richer, wouldn't you do 782 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: everything possible to You don't think he's taking stuff? So 783 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, like what percentage of athletes take stuff? 784 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: I do think this these guys to get to that level. 785 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 1: You are such a genetic freak. I I've started lifting 786 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: weights in the last year, and when I stay lifting weights, 787 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 1: just doing like resistance, you know, like lighter stuff, curls, 788 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: you know, bench press but light and a lot of 789 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: reps just to kind of tone up. I've always been 790 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: a cardio guy, but the older you get, you feel 791 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,800 Speaker 1: a little flabby. Right back when I was in my twenties, 792 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 1: as long as I ran a little bit, I felt 793 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: like in pretty good shape. Now it's like, even if 794 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm doing cardio, I feel like a little soft. So 795 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: I try to incorporate some weights a couple of days 796 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: a week. My body is not receptive to weights. It 797 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: never really has been. But when you watch I remember 798 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 1: being at Fresno State and you'd get like a rookie, 799 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: not a rookie of freshmen and they'd start in the 800 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 1: weight program. Two years later, you'd be like, God, that 801 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: guy's sucking jacked because they're they're these guys are elite. 802 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: And this is at Fresno State, let alone the dudes 803 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: at Bament, Ohio State. Once they get to the NFL, 804 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: and they even up there or there in take of 805 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,760 Speaker 1: eating the right foods, training the perfect right way, figuring 806 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 1: out exactly the way to train for that individual, their 807 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: bodies are really receptive. So whether ray Lewis was doing 808 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 1: Dear Angelers Prayer or not, I don't care. But ray 809 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 1: Lewis got you know, probably put on stupid amount of 810 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: weight throughout his career because naturally his body is more 811 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 1: receptive of that stuff. And I think it incorporates all 812 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: these NFL players NBA guys too. Do. I think guys 813 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: are doing stuff, of course, but I also think if 814 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 1: you gave the average even like in shape Joe Dude, 815 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: like the whoever would be the number one pick in 816 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: the UH in an office building right if you went 817 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: to the cubicles and you went, okay, I'll think James 818 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,240 Speaker 1: he was a he was all conference high school player, 819 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 1: but never played past that. Like that guy. If I 820 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: gave that guy H G H, and I gave that 821 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,760 Speaker 1: guy all the good p d s, he'll probably get bigger. 822 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 1: But I bet if I went to an NFL and 823 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 1: I gave that guy, his body is are gonna be 824 00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 1: more receptive. These guys are the biggest freaks on the planet. 825 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: So I I think sometimes and even I'm guilty of 826 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: this too, I overvalue like all these guys are on pds. 827 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: Maybe I think all these guys are taking supplements, and 828 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 1: but I think it's a smaller percentage doing true true 829 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: like illegal stuff. Our guys pushing the envelope. Of course, 830 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 1: if you ain't pushing the envelope, you ain't gonna make 831 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: it simple. Period, point blank, end of story. Our guys 832 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,800 Speaker 1: full on quote unquote cheating. Relative to the rules, I 833 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,799 Speaker 1: would imagine it's a smaller percentage than most of us think. 834 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 1: Even when you work in the NFL, it's not like 835 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: you're going up to players like using pds. How about 836 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: the pd s there, it's you're not coaches, They're not asked. 837 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: They don't want to know. Now you do want to know. 838 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 1: Here's where you do want to know. Like if I 839 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 1: get a Boasta brother or whatever, right, and those guys 840 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,439 Speaker 1: are not on pds, and I go, God, this guy's 841 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: a freak. This guy is a dominant player, right, I 842 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 1: feel good he's gonna get to the league and dominate. 843 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,320 Speaker 1: And both those guys got to the eage it was 844 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 1: clear they're pretty good. But for example, I don't I'm 845 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: not going to use a name, but there have been 846 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: players over the years that are like first round talents. 847 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe not on the Bosses levels or Khlil Mac 848 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: or like a top five pick, but like a first 849 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 1: round level player. And if you get rumors in college. 850 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 1: If someone tells you at that program, they go, be careful, 851 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 1: this guy's a steroid guy. You have to tell your 852 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: GM and your coach that because you might end up 853 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: really liking that player. But if you find out like 854 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 1: this guy is not gonna be able to pass tests 855 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: once he gets to the pros, and if he can't, 856 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: then he won't be any good and that that happens sometimes, right, 857 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 1: So that that's something to that doesn't really get out. 858 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: Uh So, I don't know if I answer your question there, 859 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 1: but that's I I really don't care if you told 860 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: me everyone want to use steroids, cool with me. Really 861 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 1: hope Justin Fields and mac Jones end up in New 862 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: England or San Francisco. Shanahan needs to go all in 863 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,360 Speaker 1: on one of these quarterbacks. If he's a quarterback whisper, 864 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: he and Lynch can get a cheap labor for four 865 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: to five years, make another Super Bowl run with studs 866 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,359 Speaker 1: other areas making big money. Boast of Warner O line, 867 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,800 Speaker 1: et cetera. I agree, I would always. I think the 868 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 1: Rams are a good example. They were in such uh 869 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 1: draft pick hell, they didn't have any picks. They don't 870 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 1: have any money. The only route they could take to 871 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 1: upgrade their quarterback was do something crazy like they did. 872 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: They almost had to triple down, right, they had doubled 873 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 1: down with Jalen Ramsey. They were stuck. The only way 874 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 1: they could maneuver was doing what they did with Matt Stafford. 875 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 1: In a perfect world, if they had more flexibility, maybe 876 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: they would have tried to draft a guy because it 877 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: would have been much cheaper. But they didn't have a choice. 878 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: If you, if you can, you would always rather get 879 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,439 Speaker 1: your rookie quarterback who can become a top twelve guy. 880 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 1: The problem is you just never know, you know, I 881 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 1: mean more than likely Mac Jones or Justin Fields. And 882 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 1: I like both those players. There's a decent chance one 883 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 1: of them is a complete terrible NFL player. It's not 884 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,479 Speaker 1: out of the realm possibility. If we just use those 885 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 1: two guys as examples, they're both bad. That's the hard 886 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 1: part about the draft. It's and I'm guilty right in theory, 887 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 1: Draft a guy, draft a guy. And I keep saying 888 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 1: this about the Niners. Draft a guy, draft a guy. Well, 889 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: what if you don't love any of the guys, But 890 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 1: if you don't think any of the you know from 891 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: quarterbacks three to six are gonna be franchise quarterbacks because 892 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: if you do draft a guy in the first round 893 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 1: and you miss, you're in trouble. Giving your NFL experiences, 894 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: can you give some perspective on how much the past 895 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 1: culture of an organization plays into the approach, philosophy of 896 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: the present and future of the organization. How much does 897 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,320 Speaker 1: it affect team decisions on personnel and money and is 898 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: it something that's explicitly talked about. Compliments, Thanks so much 899 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 1: for reading a question, So no totally fan gurable listen. 900 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 1: Uh Josh okay, Josh gave a bunch of compliments. Don't 901 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 1: want to read on the air. Very nice, appreciate your 902 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: kind words. Well, I've only been on one team and 903 00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 1: just you don't like the culture. The culture, don't talk 904 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 1: about it. You just your culture is just the building 905 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: every day, right, It's just your coaches and your personnel 906 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: people and your players. It's why I said that I 907 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 1: thought the Patriot culture was a little overrated because it 908 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 1: turned out like Tom is a huge part of it. 909 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,320 Speaker 1: And Tom creates the Belichick culture because his best player, 910 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,280 Speaker 1: the best player in you know, one of arguably league history, 911 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 1: doesn't make that much money, can get coached. Everyone's kind 912 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,800 Speaker 1: of on edge because Tom's kind of on edge and 913 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,280 Speaker 1: just kind of gets created. When I was in Philly, 914 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 1: like it was just Andy kind of set the culture 915 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 1: just by the way he acted, the way the way 916 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 1: he operated, and the players and the coaches. It's just 917 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 1: I don't think you just I don't know how to 918 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 1: describe this. I never felt like the culture was this. Yes, 919 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,840 Speaker 1: some days were good, you know, some days people are 920 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 1: mad after loss. I don't know. I think it gets 921 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,359 Speaker 1: a little overvalued, I guess is my ultimate point. Now, 922 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: good culture, Like I can't imagine in a place that 923 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 1: always loses. Everyone's negative. There's something that I've never been 924 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: around that I've been around, you know, I thought pretty 925 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: soon people that were very positive. Last mailbag, somebody said 926 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: the Niners need to put their big boy pants on 927 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,800 Speaker 1: and go get to Sean, which I'm a fan of 928 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 1: them doing. Since that's in the air, then why not 929 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,400 Speaker 1: use the same mentality to trade up to number one 930 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 1: and grab Trevor Lawrence and give Kyle the quarterback he needs. 931 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 1: Niners would be giving up around the same number of 932 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: picks in that scenario, and most likely be giving up 933 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,760 Speaker 1: less since we wouldn't be losing out on core players 934 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 1: in a trade and possibly less picks. Lawrence would be 935 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 1: cheaper for many reasons. Worst case, trade four pick two 936 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:38,279 Speaker 1: instead and get Wilson. Well, the Trevor Lawrence thing, it 937 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: takes two to tango, right. You can't ask. You can't 938 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 1: get a dance with a girl if she won't dance 939 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 1: with you, and there is under no circumstances. If the 940 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,240 Speaker 1: Jaguar said today, if if Trent Balky and the Jags 941 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: just tweeted out we're open or just leaked to schefter, 942 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 1: the Jags are open to listening to offers about the 943 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 1: number one pick. Every fucking team in the league would call. 944 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,879 Speaker 1: Teams would be lined up. Why would the Jags trade 945 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 1: with the Niners? What do the Niners have to give them? 946 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 1: Whyhy wouldn't the Jacks want Trevor Lawrence. I just it's 947 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: just not an option, because I think they would like 948 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 1: with the Niners trade three first round picks and two 949 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 1: second round picks to get Trevor Lawrence. Probably it's just 950 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,400 Speaker 1: not available. I'm with you. I would do that yesterday 951 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: to get Trevor Lawrence. The Zach Wilson thing, you just 952 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 1: to trade up to get a player. Here's the key. 953 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,320 Speaker 1: You gotta believe him. And then one of the great 954 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 1: conviction trades of of modern day of the Internet age 955 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,320 Speaker 1: was a non quarterback was Julio Jones. When the Falcons 956 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 1: traded up to get Julio Jones, Remember Belichick told him 957 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 1: not to do it, and he said in his gut 958 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 1: he believed in it, and he drafted a Hall of 959 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: Fame player. It was it was worth it. Sometimes you 960 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 1: know when you trade up for quarterback that that guy 961 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,879 Speaker 1: has to be a a Pro Bowl level guy. Where 962 00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 1: doesn't feel it's a it's a bad decision. What do 963 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 1: you ultimately see the Washington football team doing a quarterback 964 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,399 Speaker 1: going with what they have free agent or drafting someone. Well, 965 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 1: they made the playoffs, so their pick is not that high. Uh, 966 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: they could trade for Mariota. Rumors were out there that 967 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 1: they tried to a month ago and then they kind 968 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 1: of pulled back and because there's a chance to Raiders 969 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,320 Speaker 1: cut them. I would say Mariota would make some sense. 970 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 1: I would say drafting maybe a Mac Jones would make 971 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 1: some sense. And I would say, you know, if a 972 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 1: player like Jimmy Garoppolo or Sam Donald will become available, 973 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 1: would make some sense. I get asked all the time, like, 974 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 1: what is my team going to do a quarterback? I 975 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 1: don't think anyone knows because there are crazy, you know, 976 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,239 Speaker 1: kind of variables out there right now. Start with Sean 977 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 1: and Russell. Do those guys get traded? Because if they do, 978 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 1: then what happens with Sam Donald? What do the Miami 979 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 1: Dolphins do with to uh? Do the Niners draft a 980 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 1: quarterback or they keep Jimmy Garoppolo? What the hell are 981 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,719 Speaker 1: the Bears gonna do? Is there any chance that Kirk 982 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,759 Speaker 1: Cousins or Matt Ryan were to get traded? I hate 983 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 1: not being able to answer the question, but I honestly 984 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,240 Speaker 1: don't know, because I see it could be like ten options. 985 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 1: It's one of those years, whether it's not just what 986 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: are the Saints gonna do? For someone who aspires the 987 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 1: work in player development and ultimately a front office one day, 988 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: the insight you provide is refreshment. I'm in my last 989 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 1: semester of college right now and want to get into 990 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: the game of baseball. My end goal is to be 991 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 1: a GM in the game, but I feel as if 992 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 1: scouting is the best route for me to break into 993 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 1: the game. I wanted to see if you had any 994 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 1: advice for someone like me. My plan after graduation is 995 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 1: to try to find a somewhat normal nine to five 996 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,360 Speaker 1: job to give me some more capital for when I 997 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 1: do slide into the baseball world, because I know I 998 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 1: won't be making a lot of money, especially after the 999 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 1: pandemic has done to sports and we love uh I 1000 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 1: can you know talking about economically speaking once again, huge fan, 1001 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 1: appreciate that Brett. My advice would be this, and this 1002 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,280 Speaker 1: is gonna sound a little crazy. I would do everything 1003 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:01,839 Speaker 1: possible to get your foot in the door as soon 1004 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 1: as possible. I saw someone say this the other day, 1005 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 1: and I do think it's true when you give yourself 1006 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 1: an out. Like when I got into sports, I never 1007 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:15,360 Speaker 1: took another job. I never like before, and I was lucky, 1008 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 1: right I got a g a job at Fresson State 1009 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 1: right out of college. But I remember thinking like Freso 1010 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 1: State was paying me the equivalent of a college scholarship, 1011 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,279 Speaker 1: like what the players were getting. You know, I got 1012 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,360 Speaker 1: like seven to eight hundred dollars a month and I 1013 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 1: didn't make any money. I was on scholarship. But if 1014 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: I had done a job. Let's say, and I was 1015 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 1: I graduated college right when the recession hit No. Eight. 1016 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:38,840 Speaker 1: But let's say I have gotten a job like some 1017 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,320 Speaker 1: of my friends making sixty seventy dollars with my you know, 1018 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 1: selling insurance Morgan Stanley whatever that is. So even that 1019 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,440 Speaker 1: is so much more money sixty grand, than I was 1020 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,240 Speaker 1: making at the time. Who knows, Maybe it kind of comfortable. 1021 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 1: Maybe you realize some people tell you, like, you can 1022 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 1: make a lot of money doing this, and you just 1023 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,719 Speaker 1: kind of get into a rut. But I just went 1024 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 1: right into the world, and it's all I knew. Now 1025 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 1: eventually looking back, like I could never go back and 1026 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,279 Speaker 1: do that now what I knew now, But at the 1027 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 1: time I didn't know that. Now, I just knew what 1028 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to do, and I went all in. I 1029 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,840 Speaker 1: would always advise someone to put all their chips in 1030 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,320 Speaker 1: the middle of the table, because then if you hate it, 1031 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 1: at least you tried and you took a big swing. Now, 1032 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,879 Speaker 1: obviously you need money to eat and need money to live, 1033 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,840 Speaker 1: but sometimes you just gotta suck it up. And the 1034 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 1: good thing with working in sports, especially if you can 1035 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 1: work in the front office, you know, you know when 1036 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 1: on my first year in Philly, I made like grand 1037 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,400 Speaker 1: twenty grand. I can't maybe it was. I don't think 1038 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:37,760 Speaker 1: it was thirty. I think it might have been twenty. 1039 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,400 Speaker 1: But then with sports I had a free gym, I 1040 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 1: got free food. Same thing at first of the state. 1041 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,279 Speaker 1: I got a bunch of free food. I didn't have 1042 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 1: to pay for a gym. I got free clothes. I 1043 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 1: wore sweats every day, Like you can live pretty simply. 1044 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: It is a big advantage, right. I like to work out, 1045 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 1: I like to eat, and I was all in there. 1046 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,320 Speaker 1: That's basically all I did. I didn't have much of 1047 00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: a life. I didn't go on vacations. I didn't I 1048 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 1: didn't go on any vacations in my twenties. Vacations didn't exist. 1049 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,360 Speaker 1: Didn't have any fucking money. I didn't care. I was 1050 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 1: just trying to climb up the ladder of what I 1051 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,360 Speaker 1: wanted to do. I think sometimes when you give yourself 1052 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,320 Speaker 1: an out, I never have, But just knowing people that 1053 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 1: ask me questions about getting in as they get older, 1054 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,800 Speaker 1: it's hard because you're like, how am I gonna go 1055 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 1: from making sixty grand to make in ten? Well, if 1056 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 1: all you know is ten, you learn how to survive. Right, 1057 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,840 Speaker 1: It's just like animal instincts. You can make do with 1058 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 1: what you got, but it's harder to take a huge 1059 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 1: step back. Okay, one more. I've been a Chargers fan 1060 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,800 Speaker 1: for fifteen years and I've experienced the most pain, mostly 1061 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:44,280 Speaker 1: pain and suffering watching this team. However, with Herbert at quarterback, 1062 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,719 Speaker 1: I am hopeful he can one day lead us to 1063 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 1: a championship. What's your take on the situation? Well, he 1064 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 1: literally just had the greatest rookie season in the history 1065 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,719 Speaker 1: of the position, So is our his expectations probably a 1066 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,880 Speaker 1: little outrageous, yes, but you do not have to be 1067 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:07,280 Speaker 1: Parcels or Bill Walsh to realize his talent is stupid. 1068 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:12,600 Speaker 1: His arm strength, his mobility, just his overall ability is 1069 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 1: eye popping, even at the NFL level. Then you factor 1070 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 1: in their team pretty talented, got a ton of studs 1071 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,880 Speaker 1: on the squad. They're built to win. Now, to me, 1072 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,280 Speaker 1: the only like I actually don't have that many questions 1073 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,759 Speaker 1: with Herbert. Now, once fans come back, it's gonna get 1074 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,440 Speaker 1: harder transition period, will it? You know? Could he have 1075 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 1: some struggles, of course, but he's pretty damn good. The 1076 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,479 Speaker 1: question for me is the coach the hire brands Daley 1077 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 1: who had been a coordinator for a year to meet 1078 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,319 Speaker 1: less about being a coordinator for a year. He'd only 1079 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 1: been in the NFL for four or five years, so 1080 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 1: there's a big transition. Now. It seems like a smart guy, 1081 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: seems like an impressive guy. There is a ton of 1082 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:53,400 Speaker 1: pressure on him. He inherits uh, Justin Herbert and Bosa 1083 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 1: and Keenan Allen and all these guys, Mike Williams Hopefully 1084 00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:02,719 Speaker 1: what's his name, the Derwin James can stay healthy because 1085 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,760 Speaker 1: if he can, that guy, their team is just loaded. 1086 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 1: They drafted Kenneth Murray last year from from Oklahoma. They 1087 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,800 Speaker 1: have a ton of talent on their squad. They just 1088 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 1: have been poorly coached, Like Anthony Lynn's gone now. I 1089 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,759 Speaker 1: just don't know if Stalley is any good. He was 1090 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 1: an awesome coordinator for Sean McVeigh, best defense in the league. 1091 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 1: He was awesome. Can you do that with these guys 1092 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 1: We're about to find out. I can't wait to watch. 1093 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 1: I I would be I would be really excited if 1094 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:30,719 Speaker 1: I were you, I would expect to be in the 1095 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,680 Speaker 1: playoffs next year. Thanks for listening, Have a great weekend, 1096 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 1: and uh and yeah, I have a great weekend.