Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to another episode of the Mark mass Show
Speaker 1: where we talk about the decentralized revolution. We talk about
Speaker 1: the way the world is changing right before our very eyes,
Speaker 1: as we're swinging from centralization to decentralization. Of course, we're
Speaker 1: talking about bitcoin and how that changes the world. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, I try to bring to you some education
Speaker 1: to change the way you think. I try to bring
Speaker 1: to you the latest breaking news each and every week
Speaker 1: so you stay on top of this revolution as is happening,
Speaker 1: play by play, and of course bring to you some
Speaker 1: of my friends so you can hear some other opinions.
Speaker 1: But just besides just to me, and that's what we
Speaker 1: got for you. Right now, I'm in the studio with
Speaker 1: my good friend Alex Spetzky is also the co author
Speaker 1: of my new book that we just released this week
Speaker 1: on Amazon. The title of the book is called The
Speaker 1: Uncommunist Manifesto. Welcome Alex, thanks for joining me today, Mark,
Speaker 1: thanks for having me back. But I think I'm one
Speaker 1: of these recurring guests. You know, it's like recurring nightmare
Speaker 1: that doesn't leave you. Alanna ha ha. Well, I guess
Speaker 1: it depends on which way you view you view you, uh.
Speaker 1: For many it's a pleasure and for many maybe at
Speaker 1: is that nightmare. But so you know, something we've been
Speaker 1: talking about for a while now and I'm just so
Speaker 1: excited is we got this new book that we wrote
Speaker 1: and it is out. Um it's on Amazon again. It's
Speaker 1: The Uncommunist Manifesto. It was released on Monday. We've already
Speaker 1: reached best seller status. So pretty excited about that. Um, exciting, right,
Speaker 1: my my first book? Is this your first book? I
Speaker 1: think it is right? This is yeah, we've we've both
Speaker 1: broken our virginities this yeah, it was the first time
Speaker 1: for each of us. And uh yeah, man, I think
Speaker 1: we hit we hit the best seller in to our
Speaker 1: political reads. We hit best seller in economics economic theory
Speaker 1: for for about a day there, and there was one
Speaker 1: other category. So we hit the best seller in a
Speaker 1: couple of categories pretty quickly, which was good to see.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's uh, it's it's doing well. There's
Speaker 1: you know, the sales every single day. So we we're
Speaker 1: just sort of seeing that book spread. And this is
Speaker 1: over and above of what we obviously did on the
Speaker 1: Kicks Out of Program about I think three or four
Speaker 1: months ago. So yeah, I'm I really want to see
Speaker 1: this message spread far and wide. It's not about the sales.
Speaker 1: It's more about the the message getting out there because
Speaker 1: I think we've kept it the zodcast at the time
Speaker 1: in this book. Yeah. So, um that that first category,
Speaker 1: the two hour read, it's an interesting category. I really
Speaker 1: like it. Though. I know something that you and I
Speaker 1: have talked about a lot most books today. You know,
Speaker 1: I guess it's it's a symptom of short, short attention
Speaker 1: spans or whatever. But um, these big books, which which
Speaker 1: are great, Um, a lot of times they're overwhelming. They're
Speaker 1: hard to read, and and and and there's a need
Speaker 1: for them, there's they're great, but but a lot of
Speaker 1: the great books of history are actually just very short.
Speaker 1: As those books about ten thousand words, most people could
Speaker 1: read about an hour, hour and a half. So I
Speaker 1: think that's an important Uh, it's important for us because
Speaker 1: if we want enough people to read it, we need
Speaker 1: to make it easy to read, right m m. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's something to be said about delivering a couple good
Speaker 1: ideas really concisely. So if you look at the classics,
Speaker 1: like you know mcavelly, right, Nicola mcavelly, The Prince really
Speaker 1: short book The Art of war, really short book. Balthasargreation's
Speaker 1: book on Becoming the Best versions of from Winning Out Life.
Speaker 1: It was a short book. I mean, the Communist Manifesto
Speaker 1: was a short book, despite how ridiculous it was. The
Speaker 1: Law by Frederick Bastia, short book, easy, one hour read.
Speaker 1: So there is something to be said about a good
Speaker 1: idea or a good couple of ideas that can be
Speaker 1: concisely presented in something that is digestible in an hour
Speaker 1: or two. And and I think we I think we've
Speaker 1: done a good job here. You know, there's I think
Speaker 1: four good solid ideas in the book that people can read,
Speaker 1: they can take away, and I hope it helps them
Speaker 1: kind of place a new lens in the way they
Speaker 1: view the world. Let's let's talk through those four big ideas.
Speaker 1: Let's start with the first one. What would you say
Speaker 1: one of the big first big ideas is with the book. Well,
Speaker 1: the first one is how we opened the book. So
Speaker 1: Mark's opens his book suggesting that the struggle of all
Speaker 1: of human history has been the struggle between the oppressor
Speaker 1: and the oppressed, and he just arbitrarily states that the
Speaker 1: new version of the oppressor and the oppressed is the
Speaker 1: propertied people, so the bourgeoisie versus the unpropertied people, so
Speaker 1: the workers, the proletariat. And it's such a like vague
Speaker 1: arbitrary definition of like rich verse is poor. And what
Speaker 1: we sort of come out the gates with is no,
Speaker 1: no, no no. The struggle has always existed amongst all sorts
Speaker 1: of different classes. I mean, the struggle exists between your
Speaker 1: morning self and your afternoon self, between what you want
Speaker 1: to do with work. It exists with your friends, your family,
Speaker 1: and everyone. So we suggest that there's probably two ideas here.
Speaker 1: One is that the struggle is between the the collective
Speaker 1: and you know, this sort of coercive nature of the
Speaker 1: madness of crowds, and the individual who wants to claim
Speaker 1: autonomy and be sovereign and assert his will. So that's
Speaker 1: kind of one access of the struggle. And then the
Speaker 1: other one is what I would think is the deepest
Speaker 1: struggle in living life and attaining any form of wealth
Speaker 1: or resources, which is the choice between acquiring said resources
Speaker 1: through cooperative means or through coercive means, or another way
Speaker 1: to put that, through economic means, which is the cooperative method,
Speaker 1: or through political means, which is the coercive method, And
Speaker 1: I think that is sort of like one of the
Speaker 1: first things we come out the gate with is that
Speaker 1: that's the real struggle. Like it's not about you know,
Speaker 1: one group versus another, It's about do you, you know,
Speaker 1: move forward in life by beating someone over their head
Speaker 1: and taking their stuff or do you uh co operate
Speaker 1: with it? So is that the real struggle? So is
Speaker 1: that regardless of what other class to maybe and so
Speaker 1: he arbitrary defines two different classes rich and poor. Today
Speaker 1: cultural Marxism says we're all pitted against each other different racist,
Speaker 1: sex as, genders, etcetera. But then are you saying that,
Speaker 1: then regardless of which class or which identity you fall within,
Speaker 1: you can still decide whether you want to be collaborative
Speaker 1: or coercive, if you want to work with each other
Speaker 1: or not. Well, let's let's think about it. So, you know,
Speaker 1: you're One of the beauties of economics is that historically,
Speaker 1: anthropologically biologically speaking, we humans have always formed some sort
Speaker 1: of tribe and we've got like an in group in
Speaker 1: an outgroup. And traditionally the way we've dealt within groups
Speaker 1: and out groups is that we've we have quite animosity.
Speaker 1: We have animity with people in the outgroup, and we
Speaker 1: have some sort of homogeneity and you know, more communal
Speaker 1: relationship with people in the in group. And you need
Speaker 1: that sort of variation because not everyone's the same. We
Speaker 1: have different values, we have different likes and desires, etcetera. Now,
Speaker 1: what economics allows us to do, what trade, what what
Speaker 1: racition allows us to do, is we can actually maintain
Speaker 1: these in groups. We can maintain some homogeneity, but we
Speaker 1: can cooperate. We can trade with people that we may
Speaker 1: not like, that we may not want to be in
Speaker 1: the same group with. And we can also live as
Speaker 1: more multidimensional beings, meaning that we can be part of
Speaker 1: all sorts of different groups. And that's a big piece.
Speaker 1: We need something from another group, yeah, exactly, we need
Speaker 1: something from someone else, we just trade, we cooperate, and
Speaker 1: that's like a pillar of uh, you know, a functional
Speaker 1: civilization versus going and just taking other people's stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you think you deserve. Yeah, Like, I mean I
Speaker 1: have like my friends I serve with, and like that's
Speaker 1: a whole culture on its own, and like if you're
Speaker 1: either in or you're out on that sort of culture,
Speaker 1: that's like pretty deep to get into that and you're
Speaker 1: you're either on the outside or you're on the inside
Speaker 1: of that. But then like I have different friends that
Speaker 1: I might go ride mountain bikes with or and then
Speaker 1: I have a different set of friends that I got
Speaker 1: write your Bikes with. They're a little bit more open,
Speaker 1: not as not as tight en it as the surfer group.
Speaker 1: But they're completely different group of people. But I want
Speaker 1: to align with the motocross people. I want to alyn
Speaker 1: with the surf people. Then I have like my business friends,
Speaker 1: so that we have like the bitcoin crowd, and I
Speaker 1: have all my bitcoin people and we'll go hang out
Speaker 1: with them. And those are just different groups and I
Speaker 1: could align with any one of them, but I don't
Speaker 1: want to be static and stuck in any one of
Speaker 1: those groups either. M hmm. Kind of like that, right.
Speaker 1: So I think that malleability or that trans transmutability is important.
Speaker 1: And then this is why identity politics doesn't work, because
Speaker 1: what happens is we And this is probably another big
Speaker 1: idea of the book, and this is maybe not a
Speaker 1: unique idea, but it's that one must define an individual
Speaker 1: by their individual behavior, not the skin, color, tone, or
Speaker 1: supposed group that they're in. And then blanket extend that
Speaker 1: to the individual themselves, because that number one, it's unfair
Speaker 1: on the individual. But number two, it's just false. It's
Speaker 1: just it's just not how it works. Yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to I want to explore how this fits into maybe
Speaker 1: some of the what I talked about on the on
Speaker 1: the radio, which is this decentralized revolution. So this is
Speaker 1: obviously it's a centralizing theory of Marxism, and I think
Speaker 1: we're pushing back on individualism, which is more of a
Speaker 1: decentralizing theories. We'll talk about that in a minute. You're
Speaker 1: listening to the Mark ma Show. We're talking about, of course,
Speaker 1: each and every week, the decentralized Revolution. We're talking about
Speaker 1: it to the lens of politics, finance, and technology. And
Speaker 1: I'm in the studio right now with Alex Fetzki talking
Speaker 1: about the brand new book, The Uncommonist Manifesto and how
Speaker 1: it fits into that. We're back with more in a minute.
Speaker 1: Don't go away, we'll be right back. All right, Welcome back.
Speaker 1: You are listening to the Mark mo Show talking about
Speaker 1: the decentralized Revolution, talking about the way the world is
Speaker 1: swinging from a central system into a decentralized system. Of course,
Speaker 1: we're talking about bitcoin and looking at through the lens
Speaker 1: of politics, finance, and technology. And today I'm in the
Speaker 1: studio with Alex Fetzki. You can find on on Twitter
Speaker 1: at s Fetzky Rights. He's the co author of my
Speaker 1: new book. Were co authors together in the new book
Speaker 1: called The Uncommunist Manifesto, and I talked about these topics
Speaker 1: through the lens of politics, finance, and technology. And the
Speaker 1: original Communist Manifesto is of course talking about that is
Speaker 1: one of the most read books in political science, politics
Speaker 1: and economics. UM. It doesn't talk about technology, but it
Speaker 1: was written at a time when technology was changing the world,
Speaker 1: and so I think it hits on those three levers.
Speaker 1: And we've rewritten that book to come up with some
Speaker 1: better ideas for this. UM. You know, Alex, one thing
Speaker 1: that I've seen. I just did this big video on
Speaker 1: my YouTube channel and I talked about how these E
Speaker 1: s G narratives are nothing new and how um the
Speaker 1: attack we've seen on Sri Lanka with the farmers and
Speaker 1: fertilizers specifically in the farmland and owns in Holland and
Speaker 1: now even just to Judeau in Canada, and it's the
Speaker 1: same thing. And then I showed how the same thing
Speaker 1: happened in Stalin when he attacked the farmers and took
Speaker 1: away their ability to go food, And the same thing
Speaker 1: with Mao and you always attacked the farmers and take
Speaker 1: away their food, and then what happens people start to death. Um,
Speaker 1: And I get all these comments and the saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you're you have this understanding of socialism and communism
Speaker 1: that you're talking about communism, you're not talking about socialism,
Speaker 1: and they want to go into that type of I'm like, look, man, communism, socialism, fascism,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, it's all the same
Speaker 1: to me, collectivism. I mean, what's what's your take on that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all a centralizing tendency. Now, you look at where
Speaker 1: does centralization work, and it's a it's a it's a
Speaker 1: function of scale. In the home you have, like you know,
Speaker 1: the father is the centralizing force. He is the the breadwinner,
Speaker 1: the you know, the prime property owner, and within his domain,
Speaker 1: he has the perfect right to tell his children, you know,
Speaker 1: what to do, what they can't do, et cetera, particularly
Speaker 1: when they're growing up. Now, as the children become adults,
Speaker 1: the owners starts to fall on them to become the
Speaker 1: decision makers of their own lives and then take their
Speaker 1: life outside of that domain. Right now, Centralization sort of
Speaker 1: implies that the constituents that you're managing don't have the
Speaker 1: maturity to make decisions on their own. And this is
Speaker 1: one of the big takeaways of whether it's socialism, communism,
Speaker 1: or all of them, that they're all predicated on this
Speaker 1: idea that without some sort of authority in the middle
Speaker 1: um you people would die of starvation, like you know,
Speaker 1: kind of and and Frederick Bastia talks about this in
Speaker 1: his book. It's like these the bureaucrats of the politicos
Speaker 1: out there just have this sense that if they didn't
Speaker 1: grow the food, we would somehow die of starvation, Like
Speaker 1: if they didn't tell us what to wear, like we
Speaker 1: would all be running around naked. If they didn't know
Speaker 1: tell us to build houses and you know, build regulations
Speaker 1: with that stuff, we would somehow be Well. We see
Speaker 1: it even even today, where it's all these people that
Speaker 1: are like, well, if the government doesn't doesn't doesn't tax
Speaker 1: us and steal our money, who's going to help the poor,
Speaker 1: Who's going to help the less fortunate? Same same thing, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is it's the like we never it's I think
Speaker 1: it's tied to just the I think it's a pathology
Speaker 1: of of the of the person. Right. So people who
Speaker 1: and you've used this example before, it's like someone who
Speaker 1: wouldn't help a poor person themselves then projects that on
Speaker 1: the rest of the world and assumes that no one would. Um. Also,
Speaker 1: people who lack self discipline and self control, like you
Speaker 1: look at these people and you know the casting guy
Speaker 1: from the international settlements, like he's a he's a physical
Speaker 1: example of lack of self control. And they project this
Speaker 1: own internal inability to maintain and manage their own lives
Speaker 1: on everybody else, and then they try and impose control.
Speaker 1: So they have this very low ah faith or belief
Speaker 1: in the intelligence, the capability, and the ingenuity of the
Speaker 1: human species in general. So they believe they're morons. Everyone's
Speaker 1: a moron. So we need to build a a pig
Speaker 1: pen essentially and cattle them all in. Um ridiculous, you know. Um,
Speaker 1: I think I think there's some truth to that though, Right,
Speaker 1: So the majority of people don't think through these things
Speaker 1: and and and maybe can't make the best decisions. Um,
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean we should force them to I
Speaker 1: think maybe it's through like influence, So influence I made
Speaker 1: the statement before, like influence versus power. So like, um,
Speaker 1: I could be in the best shape in the world,
Speaker 1: and I could be living that as an example, and
Speaker 1: anybody who would like to model what I've done with
Speaker 1: my physical fitness for example, Hey, here's my plan, and
Speaker 1: you're welcome to have it. But I'm not forcing anybody
Speaker 1: to participate in that. So I think that's influence. And
Speaker 1: but then if if we go a little bit further,
Speaker 1: so then you talked about like in a household sit
Speaker 1: a little bit further, Let's say that I started a
Speaker 1: new community and I said, well, anybody's in this community,
Speaker 1: I want them to be athletes because we get together
Speaker 1: on weekends and we do sporting events whatever, um. And
Speaker 1: then so I could control maybe this one area, but
Speaker 1: I'm not forcing anybody because people could willingly opt into that.
Speaker 1: But then they could also opt out of that at
Speaker 1: the same time. So if it's done on a smaller scale,
Speaker 1: then you think it's okay if people are able to
Speaker 1: opt out. Influence is an interesting thing. We're always influencing someone.
Speaker 1: I think leaders particularly defined by having a greater influence
Speaker 1: of more people than non leaders, right. I think that, like,
Speaker 1: if we had to really distill what the definition of
Speaker 1: a leader is, that's what it is. It's someone who
Speaker 1: shows by example and has influence over others. And they
Speaker 1: say the best leaders lead from behind. They lead by example, right,
Speaker 1: not by in front? Uh No, well from behind right,
Speaker 1: leading by example, like by by being the servant, right.
Speaker 1: I mean if you look at in in front, whatever
Speaker 1: you want to call it, but not from on top,
Speaker 1: but maybe side by side. Right, So even if you
Speaker 1: look at the you know, look throughout history, like the
Speaker 1: king would typically go into battle with the people, so
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, and I guess they
Speaker 1: would kind of lead from behind. But what I meant
Speaker 1: is by example as opposed to by decree. Correct, And
Speaker 1: that example piece I mean that ties into ideas like
Speaker 1: skin in the game, et cetera. Is that it's not
Speaker 1: making a decision and enforcing something on somebody else. Like
Speaker 1: I just saw a video clip that came out about
Speaker 1: the the guy and I don't even know how I
Speaker 1: should mention this, but it's the World Economic for not
Speaker 1: the World Economic From but the World Health Organization. Who's
Speaker 1: the Ethiopian Yeah, that's it, and they literally just asked him,
Speaker 1: They're like, you know, have you taken your doos yet?
Speaker 1: And his response was that I'm Ethiopian, I come from
Speaker 1: a poor country, and because it's not available there yet,
Speaker 1: I've decided not to. You've got to be kidding me.
Speaker 1: So so, but that that's that's leading, non example, right,
Speaker 1: and that that's that's not leading. That is literally decree.
Speaker 1: That is literally what we know deep down is fake
Speaker 1: and fraudulent. But that's sort of how the power structures
Speaker 1: are arranged at the moment. Yeah, crazy, you know one
Speaker 1: thing that you know one thing that I'm encouraged for
Speaker 1: this book, And I think the point we gave it
Speaker 1: is actually a matter of fact, just today, based off
Speaker 1: of that video I put out the other day. Just
Speaker 1: today I got somebody who hit me up in the
Speaker 1: d M S and said, um, hey, I was talking
Speaker 1: to my buddy, I'll talk to someone I know, and
Speaker 1: they were telling me that they think communism is such
Speaker 1: a better system and I was completely shocked. They would
Speaker 1: say that, could you give me a couple of talking
Speaker 1: points that I should come back with. Okay, well you
Speaker 1: could start with what you were shocked by, Like what
Speaker 1: is that you know, like start there, but like people
Speaker 1: just can't even seem to grasp um these topics or
Speaker 1: how to go through them. I haven't responded to him
Speaker 1: me yet, but maybe we could talk through some of
Speaker 1: that stuff when we get back. You're listening to the
Speaker 1: Mark Moa Show. We're talking about the Decentralized Revolution. I'm
Speaker 1: in the studio with Alex Fetzki, my co author of
Speaker 1: the brand new book, the The Uncommunist Manifesto on Amazon
Speaker 1: right now this week. Check it out. We'll be back
Speaker 1: with that more in a minute. Don't go away, all right,
Speaker 1: welcome back. You are listening to the Mark Moa Show.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the decentralized Revolution. Of course, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about bitcoin. I'm looking at it through the lens of politics, finance,
Speaker 1: and technology. And today I'm in the studio with Alex Fetzki,
Speaker 1: is my co author on a brand new book we
Speaker 1: released this week. It's on Amazon, go check it out.
Speaker 1: It's called The Uncommunist Manifesto, not not the Communist It's
Speaker 1: the Uncommunist Manifesto. And it's a book that's been written
Speaker 1: about politics, finance, and technology, but from a different lens,
Speaker 1: so to speak, more of a philosophical lens. Now Alex
Speaker 1: before before the break, we're talking about um people who
Speaker 1: um they hear they hear people saying that, oh, Marxism
Speaker 1: or communism is so great. Um, and uh, maybe they
Speaker 1: think it's not, but they're not really sure why it's
Speaker 1: not or how to respond to that. And I think
Speaker 1: this book, I think is is are The goal is
Speaker 1: to kind of wake people up to better ideas and
Speaker 1: give them some of that. But what would you say
Speaker 1: to somebody who's like asking some questions like that? Well,
Speaker 1: I think I think there's a couple things that people
Speaker 1: who trying to assert communism and socialism is a good
Speaker 1: idea generally cling to. And one that came to mind
Speaker 1: as we were talking, and I'm just going to give
Speaker 1: it a name. I'm going to call it the Star
Speaker 1: Trek syndrome. Is this fantasy that somehow technological evolution is
Speaker 1: going to transform everything and will come to this utopian
Speaker 1: version of the future where we don't need money anymore. Like,
Speaker 1: why would you need money when you have that what's
Speaker 1: that the replicator right in Star Trek? You put anything
Speaker 1: in there and it creates it for you. And what
Speaker 1: that sort of utopian dream fails to realize is that
Speaker 1: there's a thing, a pistik little thing called time, and
Speaker 1: time flows uni directionally like it flows forward, and that's
Speaker 1: the one thing you can't stop, pause, rewind, at least
Speaker 1: not for the next hundred thousand years. Maybe we'll figure
Speaker 1: out teleportation one day, but you know that that's a
Speaker 1: very different world. So for now, for the next hundred
Speaker 1: thousand years, let's just assume that time is fixed and
Speaker 1: finite and it's moving in a certain direction, and as
Speaker 1: a result, we are going to need to prioritize things.
Speaker 1: So even if we could, let's say, in the next
Speaker 1: hundred years, create the replicator for the next years, beyond
Speaker 1: that years, we're still going to have the issue of time.
Speaker 1: So it's still even if we had complete abundance of
Speaker 1: energy and materials, we would still need to order things
Speaker 1: in some sense, so we still need to have correct
Speaker 1: This is once again why the existence of something like
Speaker 1: money is necessary. Like the technology of money enables us
Speaker 1: prioritize And how do we utilize that technology. Well, we
Speaker 1: utilize it as a means to get information in the marketplace,
Speaker 1: which is prices, and the only way to do that
Speaker 1: is to enable the information flow to occur freely. Communism
Speaker 1: wants to do away with all of that, get away,
Speaker 1: do away with prices, set everything stagnant, and create this
Speaker 1: perfectly engineered closed system that doesn't involve prices, economics and
Speaker 1: all of this. They're living in a fantasy land. They
Speaker 1: think that we can live outside of the bounds of time,
Speaker 1: never gonna happen. It just doesn't work like that. So
Speaker 1: so the very premises, and I think this sort of
Speaker 1: whether you read Marks's work or whether you read any
Speaker 1: socialist communist people that have come after him, they all
Speaker 1: seem to basically be these utopians that think that we
Speaker 1: can somehow escape the physical constraints of reality and live
Speaker 1: outside of these, uh you know, these very real bounds,
Speaker 1: and and they don't work. So everything kind of stems
Speaker 1: them down from there. It's like whether it's you know,
Speaker 1: the stupid ideas like the rich get richer and the
Speaker 1: pool get poorer somehow in capitalism, you know, we need
Speaker 1: communism to fix that, like everything else has to break down,
Speaker 1: which we can dig into those, but I think that's
Speaker 1: the first point is that the utopian and they don't
Speaker 1: understand that time is always going to be here and
Speaker 1: we have to contend with that somehow. I think, just
Speaker 1: right off the bat, the utopian there's no such thing
Speaker 1: as that, because what my idea of utopia isn't your
Speaker 1: idea of utopia? Maybe, so like what I want is
Speaker 1: utopia you hate? For example, like I might want my
Speaker 1: idea of utopia might be on might be on a
Speaker 1: beautiful beach with like huge surf, but a lot of
Speaker 1: people hate the beach and that would be hell for
Speaker 1: them to be on the beach, right or for example,
Speaker 1: So um, right off the bat, we just know that, um,
Speaker 1: and I think what that? What that right? Their highlights
Speaker 1: is back to the individual versus the collective. I might
Speaker 1: love the beach, you might hate it. And so if
Speaker 1: we assume that we're all the same, there's your your
Speaker 1: fallacy right off the bat. Um I saw this morning.
Speaker 1: There's a little bit on different subject, but back to
Speaker 1: kind of like these laws of the universe. Um. There
Speaker 1: is a cryptocurrency a game called Acts Infinity. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you've heard of that. Actually Infinity. It got
Speaker 1: really popular um last year and in this brand new
Speaker 1: category called play to Earn, And basically, you play games
Speaker 1: and you earn money. You earned cryptocurrency, so I could
Speaker 1: UM in this game, I go mine for gold, for example,
Speaker 1: So I got to buy UM picks and shovels. UM
Speaker 1: I earned them by plane. And then I take the
Speaker 1: picks and shovels and I can go earn gold. And
Speaker 1: I earned these tokens, these cryptocurrency tokens, and then I
Speaker 1: can go exchange those cryptocurrency tokens for money, like on exchange.
Speaker 1: And they've they've they cracked the code and this act Infinity.
Speaker 1: It blew up and the game got so popular, and
Speaker 1: then in like the Philippines or wherever, they were like
Speaker 1: hiring teams to start spending time playing video games to
Speaker 1: earn money. And all these vcs put all this money
Speaker 1: into the game and they finally found a way where
Speaker 1: people can get paid for their time playing games. Wow,
Speaker 1: how cool. Well it worked out pretty good for a
Speaker 1: year until the Ponzi scheme right out, and now there's
Speaker 1: no money to pay any of these people, and the
Speaker 1: whole thing has fallen apart. And I was like, of
Speaker 1: course it did. I've been seeing this the whole time
Speaker 1: because they're like, but people finally were getting paid for
Speaker 1: their time playing games, but nobody values that nobody's gonna
Speaker 1: pay them. So like they were earning money in the game,
Speaker 1: but it was being pumped in by vcas and they vcs.
Speaker 1: I mean it raised whatever, hundreds of millions of dollars
Speaker 1: from some of these top firms A sixteen or whatever, right,
Speaker 1: and it's like these people, how far is that from reality?
Speaker 1: Like but but yet we're continue to play being plagued
Speaker 1: by that in real time. It seems like well it's
Speaker 1: I mean that last bit real time. So the reality
Speaker 1: today is not too far off from that game. You know,
Speaker 1: You've got these politicians that basically there, Yeah, they played pretend.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, just just change the number here and
Speaker 1: you know, put a signature there and I'll say this
Speaker 1: and make this promise here, and like all of it
Speaker 1: is just like one big magic show. You know, it's
Speaker 1: like a Las Vegas show and or or a game
Speaker 1: you know in the Philippines, and you know, nothing really matters.
Speaker 1: It's not real. And I've just finished the new article
Speaker 1: that I'm writing for this year's edition of the Bitcoin Times.
Speaker 1: It's going to be the Austrian edition, and I talk
Speaker 1: about how bitcoin is the thing that makes Austrian economics
Speaker 1: possible in a practical sense, not just the theoretical sense.
Speaker 1: And you know in there I talk about like the
Speaker 1: communist ideas are much like the Kingsian ideas, and that
Speaker 1: they they're they're based on this premise of first of all,
Speaker 1: like entropy. Like remember Keynsian was like, uh, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter because in the long run, world dead anyway, right,
Speaker 1: you know, communism is academic justification for entropy. They're they're
Speaker 1: all kind of all anti life modalities of thinking. And
Speaker 1: it's like it doesn't matter, you know, just like let's
Speaker 1: just burn it all up, let's use it now and
Speaker 1: two kids and just change the ledger, change the school
Speaker 1: print a little bit more money, uh, you know, right
Speaker 1: in your regulation and pretend it didn't happen. And and
Speaker 1: all based off of the premise of getting getting something
Speaker 1: for nothing. That's it. Yeah, and that just doesn't work
Speaker 1: in the universe. Sorry, there's no like the second lawn.
Speaker 1: Thermodynamics holds irrespective of what politicians want to think. And
Speaker 1: all of nature that's not humans knows that I read
Speaker 1: a thing. I think it was just last week. And
Speaker 1: it's like the gazelle wakes up every morning knowing if
Speaker 1: it doesn't run faster than the fastest lion, it's dead.
Speaker 1: And the lion wakes up in the morning knowing if
Speaker 1: it doesn't run faster than the slowest gazelle, it's dead
Speaker 1: and natured owes that. All right, ants save up for
Speaker 1: the winter. We can see aunts in the Bible, it says, uh,
Speaker 1: we can even learn lessons from the ant, you sluggard, Like,
Speaker 1: look how it's stores. It's well, look out stores. It's
Speaker 1: food for the winter. You know. So the whole all
Speaker 1: all the world knows that. But somehow humans think we
Speaker 1: can continually cheat that. Um, but we're continuing to uh
Speaker 1: come back and see that that. Nope, as a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, reality can smack us in the face. Um.
Speaker 1: You're listening to the Marketma show. We're talking about the
Speaker 1: decentralized revolution through the lens of politics, finance, and technology.
Speaker 1: I'm in the studio with Alex Fetzky and we're talking
Speaker 1: about our brand new book we just released called The
Speaker 1: Uncommunist Manifesto. It's on Amazon this week. Check it out.
Speaker 1: We'll be back with more talking about the book and
Speaker 1: how it's decentralized in the world in a minute. Don't
Speaker 1: go away, and we'll right back. All right, welcome back.
Speaker 1: You're listening to the Markma Show. We're talking about the
Speaker 1: decentralized Revolution, how the world is changing right before our
Speaker 1: very eyes. Of course, we're talking about bitcoin and looking
Speaker 1: at through the lens of politics, finance, and technology. I'm
Speaker 1: in the studio today with Alex Fetzki. He's my co
Speaker 1: author of the new book we just released and published
Speaker 1: this week on Amazon. Go check it out, write it down.
Speaker 1: It's called The Uncommunist Manifesto, not the Communist It's the
Speaker 1: Uncommunist Manifesto. It's already hit best seller categories and we're
Speaker 1: looking for people to help keep pushing it forward. So
Speaker 1: check it out. Um, Alex. Before the break, I was saying, how, um,
Speaker 1: you know, we keep trying to get something for nothing,
Speaker 1: which um, but but reality keeps smacking us in the face. Now,
Speaker 1: we also made the case for capitalism, which I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people, um, right off the bat are
Speaker 1: probably h they don't like that. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: I told you this video I just put out. I
Speaker 1: got a lot of comments and oh but capitalism has
Speaker 1: um led to all these problems and capitalism has left
Speaker 1: all these people behind and cat right, but but there's
Speaker 1: this misunderstanding. So we so we break that down in
Speaker 1: the book um and so I think that in itself
Speaker 1: is worth the read. But but the put back to
Speaker 1: the something for nothing peace. So as humans and we
Speaker 1: make the case that that capitalism is just natural, we're
Speaker 1: just trying to do more with less. Um. So it
Speaker 1: is the human drive for something for nothing. Instead of
Speaker 1: making ten trips carrying one brick at a time, how
Speaker 1: about if I just make a wheelbarrow and carry ten
Speaker 1: bricks at once. And so we're always trying to get
Speaker 1: not necessarily something for nothing, but more for less. M hm.
Speaker 1: So I mean, are those two things almost the same
Speaker 1: but one is just a little detached from reality? Well
Speaker 1: it is. It's and this this is where wisdom and
Speaker 1: maturity come in, right, And this is where all of
Speaker 1: these tendencies, like even greed for example, has a has
Speaker 1: a light and a shadow. If there's one thing I
Speaker 1: learned from reading Young's work was that all of these
Speaker 1: examples of our personality and our desires and everything, like
Speaker 1: our energy has a light and a shadow. And the
Speaker 1: question is how are we manifesting it. The desire to
Speaker 1: get something for nothing is always going to exist. We
Speaker 1: were always trying to economize because remember time and energy
Speaker 1: are scarce, like material resources are scarce. Like that. There
Speaker 1: we want to we have a deep seated spiritual biological
Speaker 1: it's in our dna to try and use things more efficiently,
Speaker 1: down to the very bugs in the ground and the
Speaker 1: fishes in the sea, like everything is trying to economize somehow.
Speaker 1: It's it's what we do. The question is when we
Speaker 1: start lying to ourselves. So like there's a there's a
Speaker 1: difference between an innovation that you know, create that uses leverage,
Speaker 1: you know, like a pulley or a lever that uses
Speaker 1: leverage to give you an advantage in order to move
Speaker 1: more weight across space for example, or power across time,
Speaker 1: et cetera. That's very different doing that than m than
Speaker 1: building a fake level of a and pretending I moved
Speaker 1: something and then just writing on a piece of paper
Speaker 1: and telling someone I did it because behind the scenes
Speaker 1: the work didn't actually occur. Um And that's sort of
Speaker 1: you know, there's a difference between a lie and an
Speaker 1: actual uh an increase in the efficient and the effective
Speaker 1: output of something. They both stem from the same desire though, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's it's it's that it's that desire, But I
Speaker 1: love how you said it. It's about maturity, So we
Speaker 1: start to have we we have to learn most most
Speaker 1: of us have to learn as we grow up what
Speaker 1: is achievable, what we can really do, and what we
Speaker 1: can't do. And so we're always trying to do more
Speaker 1: with less economized as you said it, But then we
Speaker 1: also have to know where those bounds are and the
Speaker 1: difference of reality. UM so so good point. Um. You
Speaker 1: talked about four main thought ideas that we had in
Speaker 1: the book. Um, let's talk about a couple of other ones,
Speaker 1: like why should people go get this book? What are
Speaker 1: a couple of things they could get from this that
Speaker 1: might help, um, go talk to other people, have conversations,
Speaker 1: to see the world differently. Yeah. I think the other
Speaker 1: big one was you mentioned it already, capitalism is. I
Speaker 1: think we have a very novel approach to defining capitalism.
Speaker 1: And what we did was most people get stuck in
Speaker 1: the argument and the frame or the the Overton window
Speaker 1: of trying to argue capitalism as a political modalities like
Speaker 1: capitalism is, you know, on the right and socialism is
Speaker 1: on the left. And we kind of came in there
Speaker 1: and just said no, no, no, Capitalism is just the process.
Speaker 1: It's you know, if we define capital as the scarce stuff,
Speaker 1: so time, energy, and natural resources, and then if we
Speaker 1: sort of define metaphysical capitalist like ideas and reputation, right
Speaker 1: like that, like these things, like the metaphysical stuff is
Speaker 1: is not as scarce, like you know, we can have
Speaker 1: as many ideas as we want, but there is something
Speaker 1: unique about them, like the way we put them together, etcetera.
Speaker 1: So if these, if these are capital capitalism is about
Speaker 1: how best to use them, and the two forcing functions
Speaker 1: that we discussed in the book efficacy and efficiency. It's like,
Speaker 1: so doing more with less and doing the right thing
Speaker 1: is what efficacy is. And if we think about capitalism
Speaker 1: through that lens, what we come to realize is that
Speaker 1: we've been doing this since the beginning of time. And
Speaker 1: I think we've said this on the show before, but
Speaker 1: capitalism is just since we first realized that we needed
Speaker 1: to more efficiently acquire food, and we know created stone
Speaker 1: tools to break food apart or to throw it at
Speaker 1: an animal and you know, cut down the amount of
Speaker 1: energy we use in chasing the animal, and you know,
Speaker 1: someone else creates a fire, and you know, if I've
Speaker 1: caught the animal, and we share the animal and share
Speaker 1: the fire, etcetera. Like there's division of labor. So like
Speaker 1: we're always doing this. The question is is, like how
Speaker 1: do the political bounds that sit around the process of capitalism,
Speaker 1: like how much do they suffocate it? And you know,
Speaker 1: we can kind of think of the political bounds as
Speaker 1: the bank of the river, and capitalism is the flow
Speaker 1: of the river. It's the flow of the energy it's happening.
Speaker 1: Do we constrict it to the point that, you know,
Speaker 1: the river runs dry? And that's what you see in
Speaker 1: communists or centrally planned modalities, is that we we trip
Speaker 1: over each other, creating all sorts of regulations because we
Speaker 1: we haven't thought about where the wealth is actually coming from.
Speaker 1: And then we try and control it and direct it
Speaker 1: and shift the flow of the stream, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, we've destroyed the river and there's no
Speaker 1: more water flowing, and we're wondering, oh, it's the fault
Speaker 1: of capitalism because there's no more water flowing here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we see examples of that. You know. Uh, Bernie Sanders
Speaker 1: is I'm running on a pro socialist platform. I want
Speaker 1: to redistribute all the wealth, but yet per the capitalist
Speaker 1: system the book says, he's written, he's become multimillionaire and
Speaker 1: owns all these houses. That's the capitalist system that he's
Speaker 1: talking against. Her or AOC who still you know, pushing
Speaker 1: the socialist platform tax the rich and you know, in capitalism.
Speaker 1: But yet she sells like T shirts for sixty bucks
Speaker 1: on her website or whatever, right, like not just cheap
Speaker 1: T shirts, like premium T shirts. That that's capitalism. And
Speaker 1: so to your point, um, they they push back on
Speaker 1: these things, they say, we don't need these things, but
Speaker 1: they don't really understand how those things make this integral part.
Speaker 1: And I would agree. Just to get this understand of
Speaker 1: capitalism as we laid out, I think is probably one
Speaker 1: of the I have to say, one of the most
Speaker 1: important lessons in the book, because you really have to
Speaker 1: understand how the world works, and you have to understand
Speaker 1: the different types of capital. To your point, that we
Speaker 1: all have everybody has capital, and then how do we
Speaker 1: use those and then how does that work in the
Speaker 1: greater ecosystem? And this is really uh you know, uh
Speaker 1: first principles type thinking that then you can start to
Speaker 1: formulate your own ideas off of as opposed to just
Speaker 1: out there parody and headlines that you hear from Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 1: Another thing that I saw in all these comments this week,
Speaker 1: again because I just made these videos about socialism and collectivism,
Speaker 1: but they would say, oh, but those Scandinavian countries are
Speaker 1: are a socialist and look how good they are. But
Speaker 1: all those so all those scaninan countries tell you we
Speaker 1: are not socialist countries. They push back on that, and
Speaker 1: so I think you need to have that better understanding.
Speaker 1: In the book. We we have a matrix, and so
Speaker 1: we actually have UM all the different forms of what
Speaker 1: people think capitalism is, whether that's crony ism or colonialism,
Speaker 1: or people say capitalism led to slavery. We have all
Speaker 1: these different forms in there, and let me show really
Speaker 1: what capitalism is, what it is and what it isn't
Speaker 1: and then we compare it against all these what we
Speaker 1: call phantom variations of capitalism. And I think just that
Speaker 1: lesson alone UM is worth the book on itself. UM.
Speaker 1: And then if you if you get the book on Amazon,
Speaker 1: make sure to come back to our website Uncommunist dot
Speaker 1: com and uh, then you can get access to a
Speaker 1: bunch of extra materials behind the scenes, commentary, discussions, um
Speaker 1: download all the charts, graphs, etcetera, so much to more.
Speaker 1: You're listening to the Mark Moas Show. We're talking about,
Speaker 1: of course, each and every week, the Decentralized Revolution, talking
Speaker 1: about the way Bitcoin is changing the world. I'm in
Speaker 1: the studio with Alex Swetzky, my co author of the
Speaker 1: brand new book The Uncommon Manifesto on Amazon check it out.
Speaker 1: That's what we got. Thanks for listening today.