1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,599 Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to another episode of the Mark mass Show 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: where we talk about the decentralized revolution. We talk about 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: the way the world is changing right before our very eyes, 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: as we're swinging from centralization to decentralization. Of course, we're 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: talking about bitcoin and how that changes the world. Um. 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: You know, I try to bring to you some education 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: to change the way you think. I try to bring 8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: to you the latest breaking news each and every week 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: so you stay on top of this revolution as is happening, 10 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: play by play, and of course bring to you some 11 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: of my friends so you can hear some other opinions. 12 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: But just besides just to me, and that's what we 13 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: got for you. Right now, I'm in the studio with 14 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: my good friend Alex Spetzky is also the co author 15 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: of my new book that we just released this week 16 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: on Amazon. The title of the book is called The 17 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: Uncommunist Manifesto. Welcome Alex, thanks for joining me today, Mark, 18 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: thanks for having me back. But I think I'm one 19 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: of these recurring guests. You know, it's like recurring nightmare 20 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: that doesn't leave you. Alanna ha ha. Well, I guess 21 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: it depends on which way you view you view you, uh. 22 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: For many it's a pleasure and for many maybe at 23 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: is that nightmare. But so you know, something we've been 24 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: talking about for a while now and I'm just so 25 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: excited is we got this new book that we wrote 26 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: and it is out. Um it's on Amazon again. It's 27 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: The Uncommunist Manifesto. It was released on Monday. We've already 28 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: reached best seller status. So pretty excited about that. Um, exciting, right, 29 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: my my first book? Is this your first book? I 30 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: think it is right? This is yeah, we've we've both 31 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: broken our virginities this yeah, it was the first time 32 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: for each of us. And uh yeah, man, I think 33 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: we hit we hit the best seller in to our 34 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: political reads. We hit best seller in economics economic theory 35 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: for for about a day there, and there was one 36 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: other category. So we hit the best seller in a 37 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: couple of categories pretty quickly, which was good to see. 38 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: And you know, it's uh, it's it's doing well. There's 39 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: you know, the sales every single day. So we we're 40 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: just sort of seeing that book spread. And this is 41 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: over and above of what we obviously did on the 42 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: Kicks Out of Program about I think three or four 43 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: months ago. So yeah, I'm I really want to see 44 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: this message spread far and wide. It's not about the sales. 45 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 1: It's more about the the message getting out there because 46 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: I think we've kept it the zodcast at the time 47 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: in this book. Yeah. So, um that that first category, 48 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: the two hour read, it's an interesting category. I really 49 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: like it. Though. I know something that you and I 50 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: have talked about a lot most books today. You know, 51 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: I guess it's it's a symptom of short, short attention 52 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: spans or whatever. But um, these big books, which which 53 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: are great, Um, a lot of times they're overwhelming. They're 54 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: hard to read, and and and and there's a need 55 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: for them, there's they're great, but but a lot of 56 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: the great books of history are actually just very short. 57 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: As those books about ten thousand words, most people could 58 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: read about an hour, hour and a half. So I 59 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: think that's an important Uh, it's important for us because 60 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: if we want enough people to read it, we need 61 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: to make it easy to read, right m m. Yeah, 62 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: there's something to be said about delivering a couple good 63 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: ideas really concisely. So if you look at the classics, 64 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: like you know mcavelly, right, Nicola mcavelly, The Prince really 65 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: short book The Art of war, really short book. Balthasargreation's 66 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: book on Becoming the Best versions of from Winning Out Life. 67 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: It was a short book. I mean, the Communist Manifesto 68 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: was a short book, despite how ridiculous it was. The 69 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: Law by Frederick Bastia, short book, easy, one hour read. 70 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: So there is something to be said about a good 71 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: idea or a good couple of ideas that can be 72 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: concisely presented in something that is digestible in an hour 73 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: or two. And and I think we I think we've 74 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: done a good job here. You know, there's I think 75 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: four good solid ideas in the book that people can read, 76 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: they can take away, and I hope it helps them 77 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: kind of place a new lens in the way they 78 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: view the world. Let's let's talk through those four big ideas. 79 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: Let's start with the first one. What would you say 80 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: one of the big first big ideas is with the book. Well, 81 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: the first one is how we opened the book. So 82 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,839 Speaker 1: Mark's opens his book suggesting that the struggle of all 83 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: of human history has been the struggle between the oppressor 84 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: and the oppressed, and he just arbitrarily states that the 85 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: new version of the oppressor and the oppressed is the 86 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: propertied people, so the bourgeoisie versus the unpropertied people, so 87 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: the workers, the proletariat. And it's such a like vague 88 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: arbitrary definition of like rich verse is poor. And what 89 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: we sort of come out the gates with is no, 90 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: no, no no. The struggle has always existed amongst all sorts 91 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: of different classes. I mean, the struggle exists between your 92 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: morning self and your afternoon self, between what you want 93 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: to do with work. It exists with your friends, your family, 94 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: and everyone. So we suggest that there's probably two ideas here. 95 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: One is that the struggle is between the the collective 96 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: and you know, this sort of coercive nature of the 97 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: madness of crowds, and the individual who wants to claim 98 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: autonomy and be sovereign and assert his will. So that's 99 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: kind of one access of the struggle. And then the 100 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: other one is what I would think is the deepest 101 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: struggle in living life and attaining any form of wealth 102 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: or resources, which is the choice between acquiring said resources 103 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: through cooperative means or through coercive means, or another way 104 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: to put that, through economic means, which is the cooperative method, 105 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: or through political means, which is the coercive method, And 106 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: I think that is sort of like one of the 107 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: first things we come out the gate with is that 108 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: that's the real struggle. Like it's not about you know, 109 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: one group versus another, It's about do you, you know, 110 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: move forward in life by beating someone over their head 111 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: and taking their stuff or do you uh co operate 112 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: with it? So is that the real struggle? So is 113 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: that regardless of what other class to maybe and so 114 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: he arbitrary defines two different classes rich and poor. Today 115 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: cultural Marxism says we're all pitted against each other different racist, 116 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: sex as, genders, etcetera. But then are you saying that, 117 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: then regardless of which class or which identity you fall within, 118 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: you can still decide whether you want to be collaborative 119 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: or coercive, if you want to work with each other 120 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: or not. Well, let's let's think about it. So, you know, 121 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: you're One of the beauties of economics is that historically, 122 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: anthropologically biologically speaking, we humans have always formed some sort 123 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: of tribe and we've got like an in group in 124 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: an outgroup. And traditionally the way we've dealt within groups 125 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: and out groups is that we've we have quite animosity. 126 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: We have animity with people in the outgroup, and we 127 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: have some sort of homogeneity and you know, more communal 128 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,239 Speaker 1: relationship with people in the in group. And you need 129 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: that sort of variation because not everyone's the same. We 130 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: have different values, we have different likes and desires, etcetera. Now, 131 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: what economics allows us to do, what trade, what what 132 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: racition allows us to do, is we can actually maintain 133 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: these in groups. We can maintain some homogeneity, but we 134 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: can cooperate. We can trade with people that we may 135 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: not like, that we may not want to be in 136 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: the same group with. And we can also live as 137 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: more multidimensional beings, meaning that we can be part of 138 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: all sorts of different groups. And that's a big piece. 139 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: We need something from another group, yeah, exactly, we need 140 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: something from someone else, we just trade, we cooperate, and 141 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: that's like a pillar of uh, you know, a functional 142 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,559 Speaker 1: civilization versus going and just taking other people's stuff. Yeah, 143 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: because you think you deserve. Yeah, Like, I mean I 144 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: have like my friends I serve with, and like that's 145 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: a whole culture on its own, and like if you're 146 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: either in or you're out on that sort of culture, 147 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: that's like pretty deep to get into that and you're 148 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: you're either on the outside or you're on the inside 149 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: of that. But then like I have different friends that 150 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: I might go ride mountain bikes with or and then 151 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: I have a different set of friends that I got 152 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,119 Speaker 1: write your Bikes with. They're a little bit more open, 153 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: not as not as tight en it as the surfer group. 154 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: But they're completely different group of people. But I want 155 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: to align with the motocross people. I want to alyn 156 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: with the surf people. Then I have like my business friends, 157 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: so that we have like the bitcoin crowd, and I 158 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: have all my bitcoin people and we'll go hang out 159 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: with them. And those are just different groups and I 160 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: could align with any one of them, but I don't 161 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: want to be static and stuck in any one of 162 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: those groups either. M hmm. Kind of like that, right. 163 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: So I think that malleability or that trans transmutability is important. 164 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: And then this is why identity politics doesn't work, because 165 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: what happens is we And this is probably another big 166 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 1: idea of the book, and this is maybe not a 167 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: unique idea, but it's that one must define an individual 168 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: by their individual behavior, not the skin, color, tone, or 169 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: supposed group that they're in. And then blanket extend that 170 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: to the individual themselves, because that number one, it's unfair 171 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: on the individual. But number two, it's just false. It's 172 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: just it's just not how it works. Yeah, I want 173 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: to I want to explore how this fits into maybe 174 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: some of the what I talked about on the on 175 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: the radio, which is this decentralized revolution. So this is 176 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: obviously it's a centralizing theory of Marxism, and I think 177 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: we're pushing back on individualism, which is more of a 178 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: decentralizing theories. We'll talk about that in a minute. You're 179 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: listening to the Mark ma Show. We're talking about, of course, 180 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: each and every week, the decentralized Revolution. We're talking about 181 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: it to the lens of politics, finance, and technology. And 182 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm in the studio right now with Alex Fetzki talking 183 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: about the brand new book, The Uncommonist Manifesto and how 184 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: it fits into that. We're back with more in a minute. 185 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: Don't go away, we'll be right back. All right, Welcome back. 186 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Mark mo Show talking about 187 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: the decentralized Revolution, talking about the way the world is 188 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: swinging from a central system into a decentralized system. Of course, 189 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: we're talking about bitcoin and looking at through the lens 190 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 1: of politics, finance, and technology. And today I'm in the 191 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: studio with Alex Fetzki. You can find on on Twitter 192 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: at s Fetzky Rights. He's the co author of my 193 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: new book. Were co authors together in the new book 194 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: called The Uncommunist Manifesto, and I talked about these topics 195 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: through the lens of politics, finance, and technology. And the 196 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: original Communist Manifesto is of course talking about that is 197 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: one of the most read books in political science, politics 198 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: and economics. UM. It doesn't talk about technology, but it 199 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: was written at a time when technology was changing the world, 200 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: and so I think it hits on those three levers. 201 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: And we've rewritten that book to come up with some 202 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: better ideas for this. UM. You know, Alex, one thing 203 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: that I've seen. I just did this big video on 204 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: my YouTube channel and I talked about how these E 205 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: s G narratives are nothing new and how um the 206 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: attack we've seen on Sri Lanka with the farmers and 207 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: fertilizers specifically in the farmland and owns in Holland and 208 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: now even just to Judeau in Canada, and it's the 209 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: same thing. And then I showed how the same thing 210 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: happened in Stalin when he attacked the farmers and took 211 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: away their ability to go food, And the same thing 212 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: with Mao and you always attacked the farmers and take 213 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: away their food, and then what happens people start to death. Um, 214 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: And I get all these comments and the saying, yeah, 215 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: but you're you have this understanding of socialism and communism 216 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: that you're talking about communism, you're not talking about socialism, 217 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: and they want to go into that type of I'm like, look, man, communism, socialism, fascism, 218 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, it's all the same 219 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: to me, collectivism. I mean, what's what's your take on that? Yeah, 220 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: it's all a centralizing tendency. Now, you look at where 221 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: does centralization work, and it's a it's a it's a 222 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: function of scale. In the home you have, like you know, 223 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: the father is the centralizing force. He is the the breadwinner, 224 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: the you know, the prime property owner, and within his domain, 225 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: he has the perfect right to tell his children, you know, 226 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: what to do, what they can't do, et cetera, particularly 227 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: when they're growing up. Now, as the children become adults, 228 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: the owners starts to fall on them to become the 229 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: decision makers of their own lives and then take their 230 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: life outside of that domain. Right now, Centralization sort of 231 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: implies that the constituents that you're managing don't have the 232 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: maturity to make decisions on their own. And this is 233 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: one of the big takeaways of whether it's socialism, communism, 234 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: or all of them, that they're all predicated on this 235 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: idea that without some sort of authority in the middle 236 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: um you people would die of starvation, like you know, 237 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: kind of and and Frederick Bastia talks about this in 238 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: his book. It's like these the bureaucrats of the politicos 239 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: out there just have this sense that if they didn't 240 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: grow the food, we would somehow die of starvation, Like 241 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: if they didn't tell us what to wear, like we 242 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: would all be running around naked. If they didn't know 243 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: tell us to build houses and you know, build regulations 244 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: with that stuff, we would somehow be Well. We see 245 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: it even even today, where it's all these people that 246 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: are like, well, if the government doesn't doesn't doesn't tax 247 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: us and steal our money, who's going to help the poor, 248 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: Who's going to help the less fortunate? Same same thing, Yeah, 249 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: it is it's the like we never it's I think 250 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: it's tied to just the I think it's a pathology 251 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: of of the of the person. Right. So people who 252 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: and you've used this example before, it's like someone who 253 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't help a poor person themselves then projects that on 254 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: the rest of the world and assumes that no one would. Um. Also, 255 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: people who lack self discipline and self control, like you 256 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: look at these people and you know the casting guy 257 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: from the international settlements, like he's a he's a physical 258 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: example of lack of self control. And they project this 259 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: own internal inability to maintain and manage their own lives 260 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: on everybody else, and then they try and impose control. 261 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: So they have this very low ah faith or belief 262 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: in the intelligence, the capability, and the ingenuity of the 263 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: human species in general. So they believe they're morons. Everyone's 264 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: a moron. So we need to build a a pig 265 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: pen essentially and cattle them all in. Um ridiculous, you know. Um, 266 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: I think I think there's some truth to that though, Right, 267 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: So the majority of people don't think through these things 268 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: and and and maybe can't make the best decisions. Um, 269 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean we should force them to I 270 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: think maybe it's through like influence, So influence I made 271 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: the statement before, like influence versus power. So like, um, 272 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: I could be in the best shape in the world, 273 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: and I could be living that as an example, and 274 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: anybody who would like to model what I've done with 275 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: my physical fitness for example, Hey, here's my plan, and 276 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: you're welcome to have it. But I'm not forcing anybody 277 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: to participate in that. So I think that's influence. And 278 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: but then if if we go a little bit further, 279 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: so then you talked about like in a household sit 280 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: a little bit further, Let's say that I started a 281 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: new community and I said, well, anybody's in this community, 282 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: I want them to be athletes because we get together 283 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: on weekends and we do sporting events whatever, um. And 284 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: then so I could control maybe this one area, but 285 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm not forcing anybody because people could willingly opt into that. 286 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: But then they could also opt out of that at 287 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: the same time. So if it's done on a smaller scale, 288 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: then you think it's okay if people are able to 289 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: opt out. Influence is an interesting thing. We're always influencing someone. 290 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: I think leaders particularly defined by having a greater influence 291 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: of more people than non leaders, right. I think that, like, 292 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: if we had to really distill what the definition of 293 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: a leader is, that's what it is. It's someone who 294 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: shows by example and has influence over others. And they 295 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: say the best leaders lead from behind. They lead by example, right, 296 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: not by in front? Uh No, well from behind right, 297 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: leading by example, like by by being the servant, right. 298 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: I mean if you look at in in front, whatever 299 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: you want to call it, but not from on top, 300 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: but maybe side by side. Right, So even if you 301 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: look at the you know, look throughout history, like the 302 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: king would typically go into battle with the people, so 303 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, and I guess they 304 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: would kind of lead from behind. But what I meant 305 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: is by example as opposed to by decree. Correct, And 306 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: that example piece I mean that ties into ideas like 307 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: skin in the game, et cetera. Is that it's not 308 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: making a decision and enforcing something on somebody else. Like 309 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: I just saw a video clip that came out about 310 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: the the guy and I don't even know how I 311 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: should mention this, but it's the World Economic for not 312 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: the World Economic From but the World Health Organization. Who's 313 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: the Ethiopian Yeah, that's it, and they literally just asked him, 314 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: They're like, you know, have you taken your doos yet? 315 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: And his response was that I'm Ethiopian, I come from 316 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: a poor country, and because it's not available there yet, 317 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: I've decided not to. You've got to be kidding me. 318 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: So so, but that that's that's leading, non example, right, 319 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: and that that's that's not leading. That is literally decree. 320 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: That is literally what we know deep down is fake 321 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: and fraudulent. But that's sort of how the power structures 322 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: are arranged at the moment. Yeah, crazy, you know one 323 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: thing that you know one thing that I'm encouraged for 324 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: this book, And I think the point we gave it 325 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: is actually a matter of fact, just today, based off 326 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: of that video I put out the other day. Just 327 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: today I got somebody who hit me up in the 328 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: d M S and said, um, hey, I was talking 329 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: to my buddy, I'll talk to someone I know, and 330 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: they were telling me that they think communism is such 331 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: a better system and I was completely shocked. They would 332 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: say that, could you give me a couple of talking 333 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: points that I should come back with. Okay, well you 334 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: could start with what you were shocked by, Like what 335 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: is that you know, like start there, but like people 336 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: just can't even seem to grasp um these topics or 337 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: how to go through them. I haven't responded to him 338 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: me yet, but maybe we could talk through some of 339 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: that stuff when we get back. You're listening to the 340 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: Mark Moa Show. We're talking about the Decentralized Revolution. I'm 341 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 1: in the studio with Alex Fetzki, my co author of 342 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: the brand new book, the The Uncommunist Manifesto on Amazon 343 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: right now this week. Check it out. We'll be back 344 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: with that more in a minute. Don't go away, all right, 345 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: welcome back. You are listening to the Mark Moa Show. 346 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: We're talking about the decentralized Revolution. Of course, I'm talking 347 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: about bitcoin. I'm looking at it through the lens of politics, finance, 348 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: and technology. And today I'm in the studio with Alex Fetzki, 349 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: is my co author on a brand new book we 350 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: released this week. It's on Amazon, go check it out. 351 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: It's called The Uncommunist Manifesto, not not the Communist It's 352 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: the Uncommunist Manifesto. And it's a book that's been written 353 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: about politics, finance, and technology, but from a different lens, 354 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: so to speak, more of a philosophical lens. Now Alex 355 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: before before the break, we're talking about um people who 356 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: um they hear they hear people saying that, oh, Marxism 357 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: or communism is so great. Um, and uh, maybe they 358 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: think it's not, but they're not really sure why it's 359 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: not or how to respond to that. And I think 360 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: this book, I think is is are The goal is 361 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: to kind of wake people up to better ideas and 362 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: give them some of that. But what would you say 363 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: to somebody who's like asking some questions like that? Well, 364 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: I think I think there's a couple things that people 365 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: who trying to assert communism and socialism is a good 366 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: idea generally cling to. And one that came to mind 367 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: as we were talking, and I'm just going to give 368 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: it a name. I'm going to call it the Star 369 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: Trek syndrome. Is this fantasy that somehow technological evolution is 370 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: going to transform everything and will come to this utopian 371 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: version of the future where we don't need money anymore. Like, 372 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: why would you need money when you have that what's 373 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: that the replicator right in Star Trek? You put anything 374 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: in there and it creates it for you. And what 375 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: that sort of utopian dream fails to realize is that 376 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: there's a thing, a pistik little thing called time, and 377 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: time flows uni directionally like it flows forward, and that's 378 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: the one thing you can't stop, pause, rewind, at least 379 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: not for the next hundred thousand years. Maybe we'll figure 380 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: out teleportation one day, but you know that that's a 381 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: very different world. So for now, for the next hundred 382 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: thousand years, let's just assume that time is fixed and 383 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: finite and it's moving in a certain direction, and as 384 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: a result, we are going to need to prioritize things. 385 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: So even if we could, let's say, in the next 386 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: hundred years, create the replicator for the next years, beyond 387 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: that years, we're still going to have the issue of time. 388 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: So it's still even if we had complete abundance of 389 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: energy and materials, we would still need to order things 390 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: in some sense, so we still need to have correct 391 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: This is once again why the existence of something like 392 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: money is necessary. Like the technology of money enables us 393 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: prioritize And how do we utilize that technology. Well, we 394 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: utilize it as a means to get information in the marketplace, 395 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: which is prices, and the only way to do that 396 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: is to enable the information flow to occur freely. Communism 397 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: wants to do away with all of that, get away, 398 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: do away with prices, set everything stagnant, and create this 399 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: perfectly engineered closed system that doesn't involve prices, economics and 400 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: all of this. They're living in a fantasy land. They 401 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: think that we can live outside of the bounds of time, 402 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: never gonna happen. It just doesn't work like that. So 403 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: so the very premises, and I think this sort of 404 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,479 Speaker 1: whether you read Marks's work or whether you read any 405 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: socialist communist people that have come after him, they all 406 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: seem to basically be these utopians that think that we 407 00:21:54,680 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: can somehow escape the physical constraints of reality and live 408 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: outside of these, uh you know, these very real bounds, 409 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: and and they don't work. So everything kind of stems 410 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: them down from there. It's like whether it's you know, 411 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: the stupid ideas like the rich get richer and the 412 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 1: pool get poorer somehow in capitalism, you know, we need 413 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: communism to fix that, like everything else has to break down, 414 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: which we can dig into those, but I think that's 415 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: the first point is that the utopian and they don't 416 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: understand that time is always going to be here and 417 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: we have to contend with that somehow. I think, just 418 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 1: right off the bat, the utopian there's no such thing 419 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: as that, because what my idea of utopia isn't your 420 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: idea of utopia? Maybe, so like what I want is 421 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: utopia you hate? For example, like I might want my 422 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: idea of utopia might be on might be on a 423 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: beautiful beach with like huge surf, but a lot of 424 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: people hate the beach and that would be hell for 425 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: them to be on the beach, right or for example, 426 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: So um, right off the bat, we just know that, um, 427 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: and I think what that? What that right? Their highlights 428 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,239 Speaker 1: is back to the individual versus the collective. I might 429 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: love the beach, you might hate it. And so if 430 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: we assume that we're all the same, there's your your 431 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: fallacy right off the bat. Um I saw this morning. 432 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: There's a little bit on different subject, but back to 433 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 1: kind of like these laws of the universe. Um. There 434 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: is a cryptocurrency a game called Acts Infinity. I don't 435 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 1: know if you've heard of that. Actually Infinity. It got 436 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: really popular um last year and in this brand new 437 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: category called play to Earn, And basically, you play games 438 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: and you earn money. You earned cryptocurrency, so I could 439 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: UM in this game, I go mine for gold, for example, 440 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: So I got to buy UM picks and shovels. UM 441 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: I earned them by plane. And then I take the 442 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: picks and shovels and I can go earn gold. And 443 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: I earned these tokens, these cryptocurrency tokens, and then I 444 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: can go exchange those cryptocurrency tokens for money, like on exchange. 445 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: And they've they've they cracked the code and this act Infinity. 446 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: It blew up and the game got so popular, and 447 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: then in like the Philippines or wherever, they were like 448 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: hiring teams to start spending time playing video games to 449 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: earn money. And all these vcs put all this money 450 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: into the game and they finally found a way where 451 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: people can get paid for their time playing games. Wow, 452 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: how cool. Well it worked out pretty good for a 453 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: year until the Ponzi scheme right out, and now there's 454 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: no money to pay any of these people, and the 455 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: whole thing has fallen apart. And I was like, of 456 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: course it did. I've been seeing this the whole time 457 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: because they're like, but people finally were getting paid for 458 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: their time playing games, but nobody values that nobody's gonna 459 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: pay them. So like they were earning money in the game, 460 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: but it was being pumped in by vcas and they vcs. 461 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: I mean it raised whatever, hundreds of millions of dollars 462 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: from some of these top firms A sixteen or whatever, right, 463 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,719 Speaker 1: and it's like these people, how far is that from reality? 464 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 1: Like but but yet we're continue to play being plagued 465 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: by that in real time. It seems like well it's 466 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: I mean that last bit real time. So the reality 467 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: today is not too far off from that game. You know, 468 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: You've got these politicians that basically there, Yeah, they played pretend. 469 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, just just change the number here and 470 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, put a signature there and I'll say this 471 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: and make this promise here, and like all of it 472 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: is just like one big magic show. You know, it's 473 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: like a Las Vegas show and or or a game 474 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: you know in the Philippines, and you know, nothing really matters. 475 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: It's not real. And I've just finished the new article 476 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: that I'm writing for this year's edition of the Bitcoin Times. 477 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: It's going to be the Austrian edition, and I talk 478 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: about how bitcoin is the thing that makes Austrian economics 479 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: possible in a practical sense, not just the theoretical sense. 480 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: And you know in there I talk about like the 481 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: communist ideas are much like the Kingsian ideas, and that 482 00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: they they're they're based on this premise of first of all, 483 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: like entropy. Like remember Keynsian was like, uh, it doesn't 484 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: matter because in the long run, world dead anyway, right, 485 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: you know, communism is academic justification for entropy. They're they're 486 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: all kind of all anti life modalities of thinking. And 487 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: it's like it doesn't matter, you know, just like let's 488 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: just burn it all up, let's use it now and 489 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 1: two kids and just change the ledger, change the school 490 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: print a little bit more money, uh, you know, right 491 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: in your regulation and pretend it didn't happen. And and 492 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: all based off of the premise of getting getting something 493 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: for nothing. That's it. Yeah, and that just doesn't work 494 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 1: in the universe. Sorry, there's no like the second lawn. 495 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 1: Thermodynamics holds irrespective of what politicians want to think. And 496 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: all of nature that's not humans knows that I read 497 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: a thing. I think it was just last week. And 498 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: it's like the gazelle wakes up every morning knowing if 499 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't run faster than the fastest lion, it's dead. 500 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: And the lion wakes up in the morning knowing if 501 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't run faster than the slowest gazelle, it's dead 502 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: and natured owes that. All right, ants save up for 503 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: the winter. We can see aunts in the Bible, it says, uh, 504 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: we can even learn lessons from the ant, you sluggard, Like, 505 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: look how it's stores. It's well, look out stores. It's 506 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: food for the winter. You know. So the whole all 507 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: all the world knows that. But somehow humans think we 508 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: can continually cheat that. Um, but we're continuing to uh 509 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: come back and see that that. Nope, as a matter 510 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: of fact, reality can smack us in the face. Um. 511 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Marketma show. We're talking about the 512 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,959 Speaker 1: decentralized revolution through the lens of politics, finance, and technology. 513 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm in the studio with Alex Fetzky and we're talking 514 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: about our brand new book we just released called The 515 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: Uncommunist Manifesto. It's on Amazon this week. Check it out. 516 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: We'll be back with more talking about the book and 517 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: how it's decentralized in the world in a minute. Don't 518 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: go away, and we'll right back. All right, welcome back. 519 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Markma Show. We're talking about the 520 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: decentralized Revolution, how the world is changing right before our 521 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: very eyes. Of course, we're talking about bitcoin and looking 522 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: at through the lens of politics, finance, and technology. I'm 523 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: in the studio today with Alex Fetzki. He's my co 524 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: author of the new book we just released and published 525 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: this week on Amazon. Go check it out, write it down. 526 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: It's called The Uncommunist Manifesto, not the Communist It's the 527 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: Uncommunist Manifesto. It's already hit best seller categories and we're 528 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: looking for people to help keep pushing it forward. So 529 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: check it out. Um, Alex. Before the break, I was saying, how, um, 530 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: you know, we keep trying to get something for nothing, 531 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: which um, but but reality keeps smacking us in the face. Now, 532 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: we also made the case for capitalism, which I think 533 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people, um, right off the bat are 534 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: probably h they don't like that. As a matter of fact, 535 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: I told you this video I just put out. I 536 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: got a lot of comments and oh but capitalism has 537 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: um led to all these problems and capitalism has left 538 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: all these people behind and cat right, but but there's 539 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: this misunderstanding. So we so we break that down in 540 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: the book um and so I think that in itself 541 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: is worth the read. But but the put back to 542 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: the something for nothing peace. So as humans and we 543 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: make the case that that capitalism is just natural, we're 544 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: just trying to do more with less. Um. So it 545 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: is the human drive for something for nothing. Instead of 546 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: making ten trips carrying one brick at a time, how 547 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: about if I just make a wheelbarrow and carry ten 548 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: bricks at once. And so we're always trying to get 549 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: not necessarily something for nothing, but more for less. M hm. 550 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: So I mean, are those two things almost the same 551 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: but one is just a little detached from reality? Well 552 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: it is. It's and this this is where wisdom and 553 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: maturity come in, right, And this is where all of 554 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: these tendencies, like even greed for example, has a has 555 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: a light and a shadow. If there's one thing I 556 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: learned from reading Young's work was that all of these 557 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: examples of our personality and our desires and everything, like 558 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: our energy has a light and a shadow. And the 559 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: question is how are we manifesting it. The desire to 560 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: get something for nothing is always going to exist. We 561 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: were always trying to economize because remember time and energy 562 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: are scarce, like material resources are scarce. Like that. There 563 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: we want to we have a deep seated spiritual biological 564 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: it's in our dna to try and use things more efficiently, 565 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: down to the very bugs in the ground and the 566 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: fishes in the sea, like everything is trying to economize somehow. 567 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: It's it's what we do. The question is when we 568 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: start lying to ourselves. So like there's a there's a 569 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: difference between an innovation that you know, create that uses leverage, 570 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: you know, like a pulley or a lever that uses 571 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: leverage to give you an advantage in order to move 572 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: more weight across space for example, or power across time, 573 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: et cetera. That's very different doing that than m than 574 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: building a fake level of a and pretending I moved 575 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: something and then just writing on a piece of paper 576 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: and telling someone I did it because behind the scenes 577 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: the work didn't actually occur. Um And that's sort of 578 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, there's a difference between a lie and an 579 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: actual uh an increase in the efficient and the effective 580 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: output of something. They both stem from the same desire though, Yeah, yeah, 581 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: so it's it's it's that it's that desire, But I 582 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: love how you said it. It's about maturity, So we 583 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: start to have we we have to learn most most 584 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: of us have to learn as we grow up what 585 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: is achievable, what we can really do, and what we 586 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: can't do. And so we're always trying to do more 587 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: with less economized as you said it, But then we 588 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: also have to know where those bounds are and the 589 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: difference of reality. UM so so good point. Um. You 590 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: talked about four main thought ideas that we had in 591 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: the book. Um, let's talk about a couple of other ones, 592 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: like why should people go get this book? What are 593 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: a couple of things they could get from this that 594 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: might help, um, go talk to other people, have conversations, 595 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: to see the world differently. Yeah. I think the other 596 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: big one was you mentioned it already, capitalism is. I 597 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: think we have a very novel approach to defining capitalism. 598 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: And what we did was most people get stuck in 599 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: the argument and the frame or the the Overton window 600 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: of trying to argue capitalism as a political modalities like 601 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: capitalism is, you know, on the right and socialism is 602 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: on the left. And we kind of came in there 603 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: and just said no, no, no, Capitalism is just the process. 604 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: It's you know, if we define capital as the scarce stuff, 605 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: so time, energy, and natural resources, and then if we 606 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: sort of define metaphysical capitalist like ideas and reputation, right 607 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: like that, like these things, like the metaphysical stuff is 608 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: is not as scarce, like you know, we can have 609 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: as many ideas as we want, but there is something 610 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: unique about them, like the way we put them together, etcetera. 611 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: So if these, if these are capital capitalism is about 612 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: how best to use them, and the two forcing functions 613 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: that we discussed in the book efficacy and efficiency. It's like, 614 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: so doing more with less and doing the right thing 615 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: is what efficacy is. And if we think about capitalism 616 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: through that lens, what we come to realize is that 617 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: we've been doing this since the beginning of time. And 618 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: I think we've said this on the show before, but 619 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: capitalism is just since we first realized that we needed 620 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: to more efficiently acquire food, and we know created stone 621 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: tools to break food apart or to throw it at 622 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: an animal and you know, cut down the amount of 623 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: energy we use in chasing the animal, and you know, 624 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: someone else creates a fire, and you know, if I've 625 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: caught the animal, and we share the animal and share 626 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: the fire, etcetera. Like there's division of labor. So like 627 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: we're always doing this. The question is is, like how 628 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: do the political bounds that sit around the process of capitalism, 629 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: like how much do they suffocate it? And you know, 630 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,959 Speaker 1: we can kind of think of the political bounds as 631 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: the bank of the river, and capitalism is the flow 632 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: of the river. It's the flow of the energy it's happening. 633 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: Do we constrict it to the point that, you know, 634 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: the river runs dry? And that's what you see in 635 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: communists or centrally planned modalities, is that we we trip 636 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 1: over each other, creating all sorts of regulations because we 637 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: we haven't thought about where the wealth is actually coming from. 638 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: And then we try and control it and direct it 639 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: and shift the flow of the stream, and then all 640 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: of a sudden, we've destroyed the river and there's no 641 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: more water flowing, and we're wondering, oh, it's the fault 642 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: of capitalism because there's no more water flowing here. Yeah, 643 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: we see examples of that. You know. Uh, Bernie Sanders 644 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: is I'm running on a pro socialist platform. I want 645 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: to redistribute all the wealth, but yet per the capitalist 646 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: system the book says, he's written, he's become multimillionaire and 647 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: owns all these houses. That's the capitalist system that he's 648 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: talking against. Her or AOC who still you know, pushing 649 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: the socialist platform tax the rich and you know, in capitalism. 650 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: But yet she sells like T shirts for sixty bucks 651 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: on her website or whatever, right, like not just cheap 652 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: T shirts, like premium T shirts. That that's capitalism. And 653 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: so to your point, um, they they push back on 654 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: these things, they say, we don't need these things, but 655 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: they don't really understand how those things make this integral part. 656 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: And I would agree. Just to get this understand of 657 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: capitalism as we laid out, I think is probably one 658 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: of the I have to say, one of the most 659 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: important lessons in the book, because you really have to 660 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: understand how the world works, and you have to understand 661 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: the different types of capital. To your point, that we 662 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: all have everybody has capital, and then how do we 663 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: use those and then how does that work in the 664 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: greater ecosystem? And this is really uh you know, uh 665 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: first principles type thinking that then you can start to 666 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: formulate your own ideas off of as opposed to just 667 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: out there parody and headlines that you hear from Bernie Sanders. 668 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 1: Another thing that I saw in all these comments this week, 669 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: again because I just made these videos about socialism and collectivism, 670 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: but they would say, oh, but those Scandinavian countries are 671 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: are a socialist and look how good they are. But 672 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: all those so all those scaninan countries tell you we 673 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: are not socialist countries. They push back on that, and 674 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: so I think you need to have that better understanding. 675 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: In the book. We we have a matrix, and so 676 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: we actually have UM all the different forms of what 677 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: people think capitalism is, whether that's crony ism or colonialism, 678 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: or people say capitalism led to slavery. We have all 679 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: these different forms in there, and let me show really 680 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 1: what capitalism is, what it is and what it isn't 681 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: and then we compare it against all these what we 682 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: call phantom variations of capitalism. And I think just that 683 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: lesson alone UM is worth the book on itself. UM. 684 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: And then if you if you get the book on Amazon, 685 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 1: make sure to come back to our website Uncommunist dot 686 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: com and uh, then you can get access to a 687 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: bunch of extra materials behind the scenes, commentary, discussions, um 688 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 1: download all the charts, graphs, etcetera, so much to more. 689 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Mark Moas Show. We're talking about, 690 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: of course, each and every week, the Decentralized Revolution, talking 691 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: about the way Bitcoin is changing the world. I'm in 692 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: the studio with Alex Swetzky, my co author of the 693 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: brand new book The Uncommon Manifesto on Amazon check it out. 694 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: That's what we got. Thanks for listening today.