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Speaker 3: nine of that one. But yeah, let's uh, let's begin

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Speaker 3: with the Eastern Conference series. We'll get to the West

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Speaker 3: series a little bit later. Because the Miami Heat have

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Speaker 3: done it. In defeating the Bucks last night, they officially

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Speaker 3: became the first playing team to win a playoff series

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Speaker 3: and the sixth number eight seed in NBA history to

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Speaker 3: knock off a number one seed, and once again tasks

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler and Code did it in fashion, coming back

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Speaker 3: from a huge deficit in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 4: How many WTF moments were there in this fourth quarter?

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Speaker 4: I'm so glad I stayed up for this one because

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Speaker 4: literally just head scratcher after head scratcher after head scratcher.

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Speaker 4: I think we could do like a four podcast series

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Speaker 4: on the fourth quarter and overtime. But let me just

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Speaker 4: take you through some of what happened, because it's easy

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Speaker 4: to forget. I had to rewatch the fourth quarter in

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Speaker 4: overtime just to see what the f happened, because the

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Speaker 4: Bucks were up sixteen at the end of the third,

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Speaker 4: They're up eight with three eighteen left, They're up four

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Speaker 4: with fourteen seconds left. They fouled out three heat players

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Speaker 4: when all was said and done, and they still manage

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Speaker 4: to lose. Just at the end of regulation. I'll just

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Speaker 4: I thought a Buck twenty left when Drew Holliday was

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Speaker 4: beaten to the ball by Jimmy Butler was a big play.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how Drew holly doesn't get that ball.

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Speaker 4: Drew hasn't been We saw him on the on the

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Speaker 4: handed Drew earlier in this series, and then you know

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Speaker 4: it has Jimmy and the heat just sucked the life

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Speaker 4: have That play was big, but just going down to

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Speaker 4: with six seconds remaining, they're trying to inbound and Kyle

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Speaker 4: NBA TV cameras for that one? We didn't get a

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Speaker 4: heat challenged jump ball. Six seconds remaining, Bucks win that

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Speaker 4: jump ball. Yeah, he doesn't want that ball whatsoever, because

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Speaker 4: he was three of nine from the free throw line

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Speaker 4: Chris Middleton somehow says it goes to Drew Holliday again.

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Speaker 4: the Jimmy Butler played down to to tie this thing

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Speaker 4: Drew Holliday for me. He's covering Jimmy Butler underneath the hoop.

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Speaker 4: They're standing under the hoop. The screen setter for Jimmy

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Speaker 4: Butler is on the low block. He's just standing on

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Speaker 4: fine with that. Again, where the hell is the better

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Speaker 4: camera angle to see that push off? NBA TV? But

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Speaker 4: my question after this incredible finish by Jimmy Butler, incredible

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Speaker 4: was Drew Holliday? What was your holiday doing? He was

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Speaker 4: that sends it to overtime. I'll stop talking there because

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Speaker 4: there were so many what that's oh yeah, Mike Budenholzer

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Speaker 4: Yeah? That was I just made a little crackle happen there. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Because there's so many puzzling Budenholzer moments, we'll get to

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Speaker 4: that later, but let's just start there. Great play by Jimmy. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: great fourth quarter from Jimmy, fourteen to fourth quarter points

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Speaker 4: last minute, a wide open shot, a wide open jumper,

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Speaker 4: and then a three that he really liked, but credit

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Speaker 4: The only guy to take shots within that last minute

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Speaker 4: executed that, falling falling to his right hand, just tossing

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Speaker 3: And talking a whole bunch of shit to Drew Holiday

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Speaker 3: perimeter defenders in the league, Andrey Buller cooked him in

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Speaker 3: this series, in this game. Ah yeah, what'd you think

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Speaker 3: of a great little play by play breakdown there? And

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Speaker 3: just the boneheaded plays here or the perplexing plays I

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Speaker 5: Do basically back to back games that the Bucks choked

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Speaker 1: I mean to me watching.

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Speaker 5: he did not want the ball in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: Very ineffective in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 5: Meanwhile, you expect Jimmy to come through in the clutch,

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Speaker 5: and he completely did. There's a lot of concerns with

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Speaker 5: they're just free lancing out there. Middleton definitely had a

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Speaker 5: shot at the elbow, could have easily taken that one.

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Speaker 5: But how about putting Brooke Lopez on the court when

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Speaker 5: there's going for a lamp at the rim. Someday a

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Speaker 5: coach will put their tall guy by.

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Speaker 4: The rim for the for the jimmy, for the jimmy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there was two seconds left. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: more happening. So it's not guaranteed to be a lob.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it wasn't.

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Speaker 5: But when you sub out the tallest guy your rim

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Speaker 5: because you'll take Jimmy Butler out jumping anybody else on

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Speaker 5: the bucks. He's tougher than Pat Connington. He can out

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Speaker 5: jump Drew Holiday. And that's what Drew was doing. He

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Speaker 5: was getting his milkshake drink by Jimmy all night long. Cuts,

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Speaker 5: drives to the hoop, everything anything that Drew Holliday threw

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Speaker 5: going to be a first team All defense players, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and he is.

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Speaker 3: He is elite defender. But Jimmy is one of the

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Speaker 3: rare guards that's actually stronger than him too, and can

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Speaker 3: just put his ass in the basket and just overpower

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Speaker 3: him that way. He was amazing in this this series.

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler averaged thirty seven point six per points per game,

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Speaker 3: including the fifty six point effort there in Game four

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Speaker 3: and then forty two here. And despite all of this,

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Speaker 3: despite a bad rough overtime. The Bucks did have a

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Speaker 3: the saddest way imaginable, probably for a number one seed,

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Speaker 3: a championship contender, a team with Giannis and all these

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Speaker 3: amazing defenders in brook and Drew. It ends with Grayson

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Speaker 4: It was there, Yeah, he had a three shoot it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was odd who was on the floor there. I

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Speaker 4: made a better play. They wouldn't got Jay Crowder. He

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Speaker 4: last night a micro cous him.

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Speaker 5: Eighteen seconds Jake Crowder. That didn't pan out to be anything,

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Speaker 3: Wesley Matthews took a shot there.

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Speaker 4: He was big.

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Speaker 4: eighteen left to put him up eight points, and that's

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Speaker 4: when things looked decent. But that last non shot, they

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Speaker 4: the micro cosm of their late game execution in Games

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Speaker 4: There's no doubt, scored sixteen points in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 4: and Chris Middleton had had himself a fantastic night. It

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Speaker 4: he did take a few shots at the end. But

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Speaker 4: really so much on coach Bud. What works with this offense,

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Speaker 4: the Chris and Yannie's pick and roll, and that just

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Speaker 4: wasn't happening in the fourth quarter. Was settled so many,

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Speaker 4: so many times. Bud used the coach's challenge three minutes

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was amazing.

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Speaker 1: That's when he used this failed Yeah, that was crazy.

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Speaker 4: I think I think he should have re challenged the

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Speaker 4: challenge that the Heat won with with Kyle Lowry's it

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Speaker 4: wouldn't have been It probably isn't allowed. But anyway, he

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Speaker 4: didn't call that time out the end of regulation, didn't

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Speaker 4: call it and didn't call one in ot just kept

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Speaker 4: those two for a future.

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Speaker 3: Reference for the next game in Miami, same for the summer.

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Speaker 4: He told them, yes, I mean, if it goes full circle,

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Speaker 4: We've discussed this the Nick Nurse where he's going the situation.

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Speaker 4: If you remember in twenty eighteen nineteen when when Nurse

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Speaker 1: For the Heat.

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Speaker 5: Gabe Hintsent four of twelve from three, keV him Love

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Speaker 5: They got it five games in this series, which you

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Speaker 1: Yea, all things considered.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jimmy, Jimmy just made they needed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, he did. And they couldn't hit like, really

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Speaker 3: The back injury, I'm going to be going to assume

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 4: It's it's easy to play hindsight, and it's easy to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you have to save it for these in

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Speaker 4: That's kind of shocking when you look back. Bam was

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Speaker 4: His team that was fairly thin. I mean, they played

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Speaker 4: I don't have them. We usually say that the buyout

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Speaker 4: That was all Jimmy as a decoy. But Cody Zeller

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Speaker 3: After the game, Giannis was asked if this season was

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Speaker 4: Let's roll it. Club.

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Speaker 6: Michael Jordan played fifteen years, one six championship. The other

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Speaker 6: I'm asking your question, yes or no? Okay, exactly, So why.

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Speaker 6: It's a wrong question. There's no failure in sports. You know,

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Speaker 6: Try to be better, try to build good habits, tried

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Speaker 4: No, it was not.

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Speaker 1: Question, of course. Yeah, it's a failure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they had the best record in the league and

437
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Speaker 5: they got beat by an eighth seed who was almost

438
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Speaker 5: a ten seed.

439
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's all your definition of failure. I can

440
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 4: see why Yanni's big picture sent back saying it's not.

441
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,920
Speaker 4: But in the end, they lost. As simple as that.

442
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Speaker 5: I think if you asked Michael Jordan if he considered

443
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Speaker 5: those nine years they didn't win a championship of failure,

444
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 5: probably yeah, yeah, now for sure, especially once you win

445
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 5: the first one, because like Jannis is saying, these are steps,

446
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,360
Speaker 5: but they're taking steps backwards. They lost in the second

447
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,120
Speaker 5: round last year, they lost in the first round.

448
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Speaker 1: This year.

449
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Speaker 5: They're going the wrong way. I don't see how this

450
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 5: can't be considered a failure. The guy just went ten

451
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,639
Speaker 5: for twenty three at the free throw line in a

452
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Speaker 5: game they lost by two in overtime. He's mad, so

453
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Speaker 5: he's kind of deflecting, is what.

454
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Speaker 3: It reads to me. I think, uh, it's you can

455
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 3: have a healthy relationship with winning and losing, which I

456
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,159
Speaker 3: think he does in big perspective, and he has. He

457
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 3: is a champion and he's had these losing years. But

458
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Speaker 3: this at the same time, You're right, I mean, there

459
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 3: could have been a maybe a little bit more like

460
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 3: I sort of goofed here, this one's on me, and

461
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 3: he's done that before too. So I don't want to

462
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 3: say like he always avoids that, because yeah, he had

463
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 3: a brutal game, dumb fouls, brutal at the free throw line,

464
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 3: couldn't hit a jumper again. Uh, and they and they choked.

465
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 3: I mean, what happened in the last two games and

466
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 3: they lost two and eighth seed. That we thought was like,

467
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 3: oh my god, this is this the worst team in

468
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 3: the playoffs.

469
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Speaker 4: But you ask a competitive player right when he walks

470
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,719
Speaker 4: off the floor, did you fail? Michael Jordan would literally

471
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 4: jumped on the table and yelled at that reporter too.

472
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Speaker 3: I think, well, we've seen Lebron do the like, yeah,

473
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Speaker 3: I lost, but uh, you know, what are you going

474
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,159
Speaker 3: to be doing Monday morning? You know, you bum like

475
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 3: you got to go to your stupid job, all Lebron James, you.

476
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Speaker 4: Know, it's a different Yeah, it's all I think.

477
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 3: I love this, by the way, it's an interesting response.

478
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 3: It's sort of refreshing in a weird way. But yeah,

479
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 3: it's a failure of a season. You're the you're a

480
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 3: championship contender, as you should be. So so now what

481
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 3: I mean, the organization has failed you or whatever, the

482
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 3: coaching you failed the organization, Yeah, Yeah.

483
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Speaker 4: Again, I think there's a definition of failure that he's

484
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Speaker 4: thinking about in one way. Yeah, And Trey brings up

485
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,360
Speaker 4: a good point about going backward. It's going from championship

486
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Speaker 4: to second round loss to first round loss. It's I

487
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 4: think it's a yeah, it's a it's a malleable word

488
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Speaker 4: you want to call failure or whatever you want to

489
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Speaker 4: call it. But he also, I think was thinking about

490
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Speaker 4: last year when Eric Name asked him that question, and

491
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Speaker 4: he's defending everybody and we'll see if somebody gets fired.

492
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Speaker 4: I think it's fair to ask everybody up and down

493
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Speaker 4: this uh, this organization. It's when a number one seed

494
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Speaker 4: loses like that with the guy who's still in his

495
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 4: prime in the first round. It's a fair question, right, right.

496
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Speaker 3: And so do you think Budenholzer will get the acts here,

497
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 3: will sort of be the fall man for losing in

498
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Speaker 3: the first round. Do you think that's right?

499
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Speaker 4: I think it's a fair question to ask. I don't

500
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 4: think he gets fired. I think he's on the hottest

501
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 4: seat though.

502
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Speaker 5: I mean it's the guy won a championship two years ago.

503
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 5: He's been the coach for the best era of the

504
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,239
Speaker 5: Bucks that we've ever seen. I'm I mean, coaches who

505
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,959
Speaker 5: win championships get fired nowadays. Frank Vogel did, Nick Nurse did,

506
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 5: so it's not out of the realm of possibility. But

507
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Speaker 5: despite the fact that Bud botched things, I don't think

508
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 5: you should fire him over losing this series. It is

509
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 5: a failure. But too quickly to move on from coaches,

510
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 5: I would say, like, I don't think. I think it's

511
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 5: actually kind of weird that Nick Nurse got fired four

512
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 5: years after winning a championship. You don't see that happen

513
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 5: a lot with coaches. Generally, if you win a championship,

514
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 5: you get to be the coach there for a long

515
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 5: time before your team turns on you. It doesn't feel

516
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Speaker 5: to me like the Bucks have necessarily turned on Bud,

517
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Speaker 5: which I suppose is a good thing. But the questions

518
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 5: that were there before they won the championship, but in

519
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 5: twenty twenty one, they're rare and back.

520
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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, They're so similar, and that's why it's different

521
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 4: than Nurse. To me, the offense just was porous. It

522
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 4: was bad. We know that Yannis has to move, he

523
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 4: can't just sit there, and maybe his back wasn't great

524
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 4: on the turnarounds, in the in the in the post,

525
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 4: and maybe his touch wasn't there and the free throws

526
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 4: because of that, but still the timeouts that weren't called,

527
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Speaker 4: it's not forgivable. You're a coach, that's that's literally what

528
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 4: you have to do, and you can't fire a guy

529
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Speaker 4: over one time out.

530
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Speaker 3: But it's too straight, so he doesn't make adjustments, his

531
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 3: butts whole thing.

532
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 4: So it's part of the title.

533
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Speaker 3: And then it's obviously blown up in their face a

534
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Speaker 3: couple of times that that's the part, and I'm with

535
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Speaker 3: you trade It is interesting to be even like throwing

536
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 3: out the idea of firing a guy that won the

537
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Speaker 3: title two years ago, but it's also this is the

538
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 3: NBA today. Things move fast. You have Giannis one of

539
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 3: the greatest players of all time in his prime, and

540
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 3: it's like, we got to maximize. So if it's if

541
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Speaker 3: we don't, and maybe it comes down to how Yannis

542
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 3: feels about him in the end, really about does he

543
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 3: want coach to coach Bud to still be there. But

544
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Speaker 3: that's why it's like, all right, well maybe someone else

545
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 3: can can do it again, but we'll see, we'll see.

546
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 3: I don't take the box as an organization that makes

547
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 3: like rash decisions or anything like that.

548
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Speaker 5: So it's hard to see an upgrade at coach like

549
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 5: Nurse is probably a lateral'll move. Maybe they can update

550
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 5: their shooting coach, because if Giannis makes a few more

551
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 5: free throws, they're going to Game six, not even a

552
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 5: question of yet it's being fired.

553
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 1: Uh.

554
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Speaker 3: Let's move over to the other series that ended in

555
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 3: the Eastern Conference last night, maybe just as big as

556
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 3: a shock, at least ending in five. Nick's advanced to

557
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 3: the East Semis, taking care of the Cavs in Cleveland

558
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 3: one oh six ninety five for only the second time

559
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 3: in twenty three years. The Knicks are moving on in

560
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 3: the NBA playoffs, Bing bong to that, Jalen Brunson twenty

561
00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 3: three points, Barrett twenty one and New York's depth just

562
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 3: downed the Calves in this game and throughout this series,

563
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 3: and here they go, moving on to play the Miami Heat.

564
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 3: We'll preview that series on Tonos Drop podcast.

565
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 4: But the game itself well less of a surprise than Nicks.

566
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,719
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, then the Bucks and the Heat just because

567
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 4: the Calves didn't show up for this series and the

568
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 4: Knicks sucked the life out of this Calves team from

569
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Speaker 4: the get go. The Cavs had some ups and downs

570
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,479
Speaker 4: this season, especially in the second half, but that's why

571
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 4: I expected some ups in this We didn't get any,

572
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 4: and the Calves let all of their missed shots affect

573
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 4: the way they're playing defense in this game. In the

574
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 4: second half, a lot of shots just not going in,

575
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 4: and the Calves just weren't working enough defensively, allowing too

576
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 4: many fast breaks o we top and wind milled on

577
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 4: their ass in the second half. They were deflated and

578
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 4: they weren't bringing the level of fight which they showed

579
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 4: for much of the year, and you can see it

580
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 4: especially with their big who got outplayed yesterday and all

581
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 4: series long. Mitchell Robinson obviously smoked him. Mitchell Robinson had

582
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 4: an incredible game again, thirteen and eighteen, eleven offensive boards,

583
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 4: and that's a lot of that's effort. He's obviously big,

584
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 4: and that was obviously an issue coming into this series.

585
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 4: That's what they do. But Mobley and Allen really really

586
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 4: really got outplayed. Combined, they're ten and thirteen and only

587
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 4: three offensive boards. That's effort, and it's also gang rebounding

588
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 4: because we knew Robinson was bigger, So I I just

589
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 4: say effort with this particular one because that's it just

590
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 4: wasn't there in the first half. They're basically at the

591
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 4: end of it, basically even shooting the ball. But the

592
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 4: team won that had more possessions. The Knicks were there

593
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 4: because they had more possessions because they were out efforting

594
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 4: the Caps. The Bigs just got outplayed.

595
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly right. Mitchell Robinson was the best in

596
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 5: this series by far, which is why I think definitely

597
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 5: a disappointing end to a great season for the Calves

598
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 5: because this was a Calves type series. They this has

599
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 5: played to their liking. It was a defensive series, which

600
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 5: the Calves were the better defensive team in the regular season.

601
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 5: The Knicks were an offense first team. Doesn't seem like

602
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 5: they would be, but that's how it went down. There's

603
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 5: a slow series that benefits the Calves as well, and

604
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 5: it was dominated inside. Unfortunately for them, it was dominated

605
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 5: by Mitchell Robinson to the point that the Cavs got

606
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 5: booed at home in their last playoff game. That was

607
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 5: crazy to see very little from Julius Randall this series.

608
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 5: That should be another check mark for the Calves. But

609
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 5: their stars didn't show up necessarily. Not a great game

610
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 5: from Darius Garland in this one, though he was a

611
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 5: little bit better, I thought than Donovan Mitchell, who scored

612
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 5: a bunch because he took a whole bunch of shots.

613
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,719
Speaker 5: But yeah, getting subpar performances from the guards and then

614
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 5: the big men getting completely outplayed by Mitchell Robinson. It

615
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 5: just kind of shows you the regular season ate the playoffs,

616
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 5: because the Knicks looked like a completely different team and

617
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 5: the Calves just looked like they were playing their first

618
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 5: playoff series.

619
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and once again the Knicks getting awesome bench contributions.

620
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 3: Obi Topping comes in there five to ten, hit those

621
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: two corner threes. Juli's Randall left this game with an

622
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 3: ankle injury. I mean he ends the game watching the

623
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: game like he's a fan there in the crowd. So

624
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: we'll wait to see the severity of that. That was

625
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 3: an ankle injury that he had at the end of

626
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 3: the regular season. He had struggled all series long and

627
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 3: then really really hurt it in this one, which took

628
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: him out and then quickly, you know, hitting three threes

629
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: five to fifteen overall, but he gave them a good

630
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 3: thirty minutes or so off the bench as well. And

631
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: that's it, Like there is like almost felt like nobody

632
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 3: in this series, probably outside of Randall, if I'm being honest,

633
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 3: that played poorly for the Knicks. Everybody played their part,

634
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: you know. Obviously Jellen Brunson is a stud and he

635
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 3: outplayed Donovan Mitchell for the second postseason really in a

636
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 3: row here, and then Josh Hart and Mitchell Robinson. You

637
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 3: guys already talked a ton about RJ. Barrett one hundred

638
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: percent convinced now his best three game stretch at least

639
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 3: of the season in a Knicks uniform over these games three, four,

640
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 3: and five. Yeah, it was pretty impressive from this Knick squad,

641
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 3: who are now going to have home court advantage the

642
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 3: big second round series against the Heat. Like we're going

643
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 3: back to the nineties here, so I can't wait for that.

644
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 3: Jimmy and the Garden. The way this team is playing

645
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 3: just a just an awesome performance that shocked a lot

646
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 3: of people. And we thought this would be a close series.

647
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 3: I mean everyone's like, ooh, Cavs and seven, nix and seven.

648
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 3: Everyone thought it was going to go seven, but no

649
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: one thought they were just going to be outplayed.

650
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 4: Like this, but really had every position. Yeah, when it

651
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 4: happens like this, one team is playing better and one

652
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 4: team is just playing horrendous. I think Cavs just weren't

653
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 4: playing anywhere close to their capabilities. And hopefully for Julius Randall,

654
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 4: he comes back. You could see when he sat down

655
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 4: in the crowd he shook Jalen Brunson's hand and he said,

656
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 4: I'm good. You could you could read that one. That

657
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 4: was that wasn't too difficult to read the lips on

658
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 4: that one. So hopefully he'll be back because he started

659
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 4: this game better. He had a poorer series most of it,

660
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 4: but he did start pretty well in this game, and

661
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 4: those shots actually were important. But you could see when

662
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 4: a team it grows more and more confidence. Like RJ. Barrett,

663
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 4: for instance, he was bad in the first two games.

664
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 4: He shot sixteen thirty percent the first two games, but

665
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 4: because the Knicks were playing better and sucking the life

666
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 4: out of the Calves, he gets better and manuel quickly.

667
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 4: He just came off an over in game four. He

668
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 4: comes back with a really big one. Oh be toping.

669
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 4: I mean they were dancing on the calves and the

670
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 4: calves totally lost it. I think this is a big,

671
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 4: big offseason for Evan Mobley to be more of a

672
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 4: guy who can give the ball to just to work

673
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 4: on that, because it seemed like that was coming along

674
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 4: and then it didn't happen in the postseason. The front

675
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 4: court really was something they couldn't rely on at all.

676
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 4: Both him and Allen averaged under ten points per game

677
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 4: in this series. And I guess we still include the

678
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 4: small four position in the front court. I don't even

679
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,959
Speaker 4: know who plays small forward for the Calves. They went

680
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 4: away from Isaac Accorro, who actually looked decent off the bench,

681
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 4: and I went, yeah, he was scorching in this one,

682
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 4: but they kind of went away from him, so they

683
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 4: fell apart. And people saying, well, if Kevin Love was there,

684
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 4: like they released him, he would have helped. I don't

685
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 4: think he would have helped. I think the way the

686
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 4: Calves stunk, I mean it trickled down to everybody, the

687
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 4: way Jimmy Butler picked up Kevin like Kevin Love found

688
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 4: new life with the Heat, and the Cavs just stunk,

689
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 4: and so I don't even think anybody really would have helped.

690
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 4: It was it's on Mitchell, It's on the starters, and

691
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 4: they didn't they didn't show up.

692
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 3: If you were to ask Donovan Mitchell or Garland, I

693
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 3: don't know. Maybe it happened and I missed it. Hey

694
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 3: was this?

695
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 4: Uh?

696
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: Was this season of failure? What would they have said?

697
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 3: I think how would they have addressed it last night?

698
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 3: Obviously different circumstances and the Bucksworth Championship contenders. I don't

699
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 3: think anyone had the calves in that tier, but they

700
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 3: did lose here pretty handily.

701
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 5: Mitchell would say it's a disappointment. Garland would say still

702
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 5: a good season. Never made it to the playoffs before.

703
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 5: But Donovan Mitchell, this is supposed to be his time

704
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 5: to shine yea and back to back times getting out

705
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 5: played by Jalen Brunts and first with the MAVs now

706
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 5: with the Knicks. So I think it would be a

707
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 5: disappointment from him. And if you were going to continue

708
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 5: to ask people, I think Evan Mobley, let's say this

709
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 5: is not what I came out here to do. He

710
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 5: just looked like he was trying to find his way

711
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 5: and did not look like he was ready to be

712
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 5: playing in the series.

713
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 4: This big. Yeah, Disappointment's a good way to answer that question.

714
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 4: Because coach Budd was asked the same question by Eric

715
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 4: name of the athletic Disappointment was the word he used.

716
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 4: I wouldn't use that word. Failure is what he said. Uh. Yeah,

717
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 4: I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed because I feel like

718
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 4: our man Mitchell got some thing, some variation of that question. Yeah,

719
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 4: but yeah, I think he passed up in any study.

720
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 4: It's on me. It's on me type thing.

721
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: Did anyone ask him? Was it weird to not be

722
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 3: the best Mitchell in this series?

723
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 4: You love a good Mitchell, I do.

724
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: Mitchell Rumson. Yeah, Mitchell too.

725
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 4: No, I mean any good name Mitchell.

726
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 3: Great name. Well, that's where my grandparents sort of live, Mitchell, Ontario.

727
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 3: I say sort of because it's actually Fullerton, smaller farm, Townton.

728
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 3: Mitchell's like it's known for an old hockey player that

729
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 3: I'm drawing a blank on, like an old famous hockey.

730
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 4: Player Mitchell Wiggins. Isn't that Andrew Wiggins, Dad, It's.

731
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: Definitely not named after him. But there is an old

732
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 3: tiny hockey player from Mitchell, Ontario. I could look it up,

733
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 3: but nobody cares.

734
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 4: Mitchell from Ontario, Old Mitchell. Anniversary of Kevin Mitchell's one

735
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 4: handed cat. I saw that.

736
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: Oh it's so good Mitchell.

737
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 4: No, I don't need to look it up.

738
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: I want to know the guy.

739
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 4: You're gonna know, Mitchell. That number nineteen Lions quarterback Scott Scott.

740
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, nice, yep, yep, yep, yep. Oh, here we go,

741
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 5: Mitchell Miller. Now he's from Sylvania, Ohio.

742
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 3: Guys, I'm not saying the person's name is. I got it,

743
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 3: Howie Morenz. This I thought it was a bigger name,

744
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 3: to be honest, Howie Morenz Man. He won a bunch

745
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 3: of cups, you know, with the twenty four Canadians, the

746
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: nineteen thirty Canadians and the nineteen thirty one Canadians. Wow,

747
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 3: I didn't realize he.

748
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 4: Was that old.

749
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: One hundred years ago.

750
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 3: This guy was so old that the Canadians, Montreal Canadians

751
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 3: defeated the Calgary Tigers. What I don't even know that

752
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:27,479
Speaker 3: was a team.

753
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 4: Twenty four was so okay.

754
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 3: Howie Morenz born in Mitchell, Ontario, quaint little town. The

755
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 3: only thing I remember they had a Beckers. What you

756
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 3: heard Beckers?

757
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 4: Now?

758
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's seven eleven. I guess okay, there's a Beckers

759
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 3: that I think you could rent. I'm pretty sure. I

760
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 3: rented video games from When the Grandparents Take It.

761
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 4: Definitely adult magazines.

762
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 3: Tranpa was taking care to Becker, bring him back.

763
00:35:59,160 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: All right?

764
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 3: Like I said, we will preview and predict the Heat

765
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 3: Knicks series, which starts on Sunday.

766
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 4: Is that right?

767
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 3: Game one in Madison Square Gardens. So Jimmy said, oh

768
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 3: my god, Oh that's right, not Saturday.

769
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: Do your job, Jimmy corrected a reporter. Yeah, basically said, yeah,

770
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 4: you're gonna be geared up for Saturday, isn't it Sunday?

771
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Sunday. Do your job.

772
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 3: Anyway, we will preview on pretty that on tomorrow's podcast,

773
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 3: along with the Suns and Nuggets series. So lots to

774
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 3: do on the job. Let's take a first break. When

775
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 3: we come back, we'll talk about the two Western Conference

776
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 3: series from last night. Don't go anywhere back here in

777
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: the Classic Factory, We're gonna get to the Western Conference

778
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 3: series from last night. But Howie Morenz, the pride of Mitchell, Ontario,

779
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 3: tasks back three time Cup winner with the Habs, three

780
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 3: time All Star, three time Heart Trophy winner, and he's

781
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame.

782
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 4: That's why you remember Howie Morenz.

783
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 3: I think there's a sign in Mitchell that says, you know,

784
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: the birthplace of Hallie Moren, Home of Howie, Home of

785
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 3: Howie and a Beckers.

786
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: We got it all in Mitchell, Ontario.

787
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 5: I see that young Howie was one of the first

788
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 5: nine inductees to the Hockey Hall of Fame.

789
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: People forget Howie Moren.

790
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: People literally forget Howie Morenz.

791
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: They just so forget him.

792
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to the pivotal Game five in Sacramento.

793
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 3: Steph Curry leads the Warriors past the Kings one twenty three,

794
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 3: one sixteen for that three to two series lead. Yes,

795
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 3: the Warriors won a road game for an NBA record

796
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: twenty eighth straight playoff series. So we all thought it

797
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 3: was going to happen in games one or two in Sacramento.

798
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 3: It didn't down two. Oh, they win Game three and

799
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: four at home, one of them without Draymond, and then

800
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 3: they go into Sacramento there and uh, you know, looking

801
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 3: like the team of old. I would say the Warriors

802
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 3: here a little bit in this one. Kings fought hard.

803
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 3: It was still a game, but this is going to

804
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: be tough for them to overcome here now having to

805
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 3: win in in the Bay and then a potentially game

806
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 3: seving home. But what did you think Curry leading the Warriors.

807
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 4: I think you're banging on with the way they look

808
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 4: like them old cell, their old selves, and especially how

809
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 4: they got so many contributions from a lot of guys

810
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 4: down the stretch. Had four guys score twenty or more

811
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 4: points in this game, and four minutes left you saw

812
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 4: the old guys doing it again. Draymond was feeling so

813
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 4: good coming off the bench in both to start both halves,

814
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 4: which is impressive stuff. Feeling it good at the end

815
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 4: four minutes left. Kind of an off balance Draymond jumper,

816
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 4: what jerk like?

817
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 5: They said, Yeah, they were calling him Draymond Novitzky after

818
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 5: the game his teammates, Yes, yes, his teammates, I guess.

819
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 4: And then another Draymond played going to the corner, back

820
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 4: to the ball and just throwing his arms out like

821
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 4: he is playing defense, but coming up with a big

822
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 4: steal because it hit his hand, and then the hustle

823
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 4: to go get it in the corner before everybody else.

824
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 4: That's Draymond and Clay hitting it kills Leaner from the corner.

825
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 3: Long two long tour, But that was wild.

826
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, foot on the line there and yes, Steph making

827
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 4: two more shots, Wiggins hitting that that shot, that's Warriors ball,

828
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 4: everybody doing it in the end two to two. We're

829
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 4: in Sacramento. It was a one point game at that

830
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 4: four minute mark, and the team that's been there, done

831
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 4: it before, Yeah, came through really.

832
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 3: And it was all those Warriors championship players that you

833
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 3: sort of just went through. I would, I would, I

834
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: would like add to that. Yeah, Steph had that super

835
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: high layoff layup off the glass, and then he had

836
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: the they'll play at the end, the end one where

837
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 3: he iced the game by just dribbling around everybody looking

838
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 3: like Howie Morenzo there dangling. Oh my god, that was hilarious.

839
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 5: I think they said nine seconds of dribbling right like

840
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 5: he faked out Harrison Barnes somehow twice eventually got the

841
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 5: and one on him. It was like Crew is just

842
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 5: trying to shoot the highest possible layups he could the

843
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 5: entire night. It was seemingly working for him. Thirty one

844
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 5: for Curry, twenty five for Clay, twenty one for Draymond,

845
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 5: twenty for Wiggins, and twenty two boards for Moses Maloney.

846
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 5: That's like institutional knowledge We've won a bunch of championships.

847
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 5: Here's what you gotta do to win a game on

848
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 5: the road. The stars got to show up. All of

849
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 5: the stars did. They got solid performances as well from

850
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 5: the role guys. Dante DiVincenzo made a few plays. Gary

851
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 5: Payton the second was pretty active. The Kings just kept

852
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 5: hitting back, hitting back, and the Warriors always had a

853
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 5: response for him. And that's how you win a game

854
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 5: on the road, even if you're a bad road team,

855
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 5: which the Warriors knew the plan. We got to get

856
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 5: one eventually, Yeah, at some point in Sacramento, and they

857
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 5: did it last night.

858
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 3: I mean, Draymond A. Greham with twenty one points. I

859
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 3: don't want to like gloss over that. That's a lot

860
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: for that guy. Eight to ten shooting the Dirk like

861
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 3: fade away there in a one point game when he

862
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: hit it. But he just came out looking aggressive and

863
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 3: looking to score. When he subbed in there, took four

864
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 3: shots and scored six points in the first quarter. And

865
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 3: he sometimes does this every once in a while. You

866
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 3: get aggressive looking Draymond on the offensive end, you always

867
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: know he's going to bring on the defensive end. But

868
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 3: he did that they sort of needed them all in

869
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 3: the end, and uh, it was I wonder, I assume

870
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 3: Steve Kurr just sticks with this, Draymond not starting coming in,

871
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 3: give him a little boost, and then maybe potentially starting

872
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 3: the second half like he has I would assume he would.

873
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 4: He didn't start the second half of this game.

874
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 3: No, he didn't actually four.

875
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's why I thought. I thought they would

876
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 4: go back to that. Just I was wrong to start.

877
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 4: I thought they would start him, start him on Fox

878
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 4: because game back from his suspension there in Game four,

879
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 4: he started the second half but not the first half,

880
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 4: and he came off the bench to start both having

881
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 4: this one and shout outs to him and Curve for

882
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 4: making it happen and Jordan Poole in his place. I thought,

883
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 4: even though that the numbers weren't great, doing championship type stuff,

884
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 4: to start that third quarter, he created two turnovers, they

885
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 4: had two steals there and he was just playing deep.

886
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 4: He six helpers overall.

887
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 5: Zero turnovers. Yeah, that's huge for Jordan Pool. Well, that's

888
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 5: probably why he's staying in the starting lineup because there's

889
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 5: much less responsibility for Pool, so he can just play

890
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 5: more of a scoring, creating game rather than having everything

891
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 5: on his shoulders when he's coming off the bench and leading.

892
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: So, yeah, a really nice night for the Warriors.

893
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 5: And then I mean the King's got to be kicking

894
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 5: themselves for the shooting at eight for twelve from three, yeah,

895
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 5: in the first quarter. They finished the game with ten threes,

896
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 5: so two for twenty two in.

897
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: Quarters two, three, and four.

898
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 5: It was looking like the finger splint was going to

899
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 5: be the key for d Aaron Fox hit his first

900
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 5: three threes I do believe, finished three for ten, unfortunately

901
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 5: from behind the arc. And after the game, Mike Brown

902
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 5: said it has to be impacting him. He's got a

903
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 5: little thing at the very tip of his fingers.

904
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 3: So there was one turnover he had late, you know,

905
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 3: credit to Wiggins two like putting the pressure on him,

906
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 3: but that one felt like he lost the ball because yeh,

907
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 3: lack of feeling of that little splint.

908
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: There six turnovers for Fox, yeah, and an.

909
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 3: Zero for six in the fourth quarter there too, So

910
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 3: him going scoreless our clutch player of the year here.

911
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 3: Not great timing, but you're right, they went cold from three.

912
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 3: They have to hit more than that spread out amongst

913
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 3: the entirety of a game to try and get this

914
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 3: back to Sacramento. I think they're still kicking themselves from

915
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: losing that Game four, if I'm being honest. That to

916
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 3: me was like, oh, you could have taken one commandingly,

917
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 3: giving yourself three chances. They kept coughing the ball up

918
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 3: in transition and all of that. But whatever, that's in

919
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 3: the past, because the Warriors are just looking better and

920
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 3: better here. That's what's happening here, looking a little bit

921
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 3: more like the Warriors of older are the Championship Warriors.

922
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 3: But I guess you know it's not over. No, only

923
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 3: not over, but they're gonna have to have a you know,

924
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 3: Malite Bonk look did some nice things. Obviously, they almost

925
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,479
Speaker 3: had to like defer to him as the point guard

926
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 3: because of Fox's finger. I thought a little bit. I

927
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 3: thought he did all right, But they're gonna need this.

928
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 3: They just need one of these games where those threes

929
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 3: fall there in game six to try and get a chance.

930
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 4: In games oeven. Yeah, it's been a weird series because

931
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 4: that's what they do rely on for their incredible offense.

932
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 4: But coming into this game, they were shooting thirty percent

933
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 4: from three for the series, obviously, way lore than what

934
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 4: they usually shoot and it was still too too Yeah,

935
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 4: and they did it again tonight again a bad shooting

936
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 4: night from three basically matched the Warriors percentage. The Warriors

937
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 4: hit one more three.

938
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they haven't been shooting all that well out of

939
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 3: the crazy part. But that terrifies me because it's game

940
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 3: six play time, right.

941
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 4: I mean, he looked great in this one, just just

942
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 4: a solid five threes obviously, but I think from the

943
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 4: King side, you had one guy who was hot in

944
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 4: the first quarter. Keegan Murray continues his this new revelation

945
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 4: of starting to play well in games four. In Games five,

946
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 4: but then they didn't shot. No, he scored ten first

947
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 4: quarter points in nine minutes, and then the next twenty

948
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 4: six minutes he didn't shoot again, which was really weird.

949
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 4: He looked good. I mean, he looks like the most

950
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 4: comfortable shooter out there, and I'm shocked. I think that's

951
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 4: it's got to be on the coaching staff and the

952
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 4: team to just let him cook a little bit. He

953
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 4: looked good, I think Fox. Yeah, with the finger he did,

954
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 4: he'd played forty two minutes. He tried his ass off, obviously,

955
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 4: and he I know he didn't shoot well, but along

956
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 4: with Monk he was the best guy out there. Yeah,

957
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 4: Sabonus chipped in, but I.

958
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 5: Think Sabonis needs to step it up a little bit

959
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 5: here in Game six. He's been having okay games, like

960
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 5: he had twenty one points on fifteen shots last night,

961
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 5: but only four assists. He's only averaging four assists for

962
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 5: the series, and it's because of the way the Warriors.

963
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: Are defending him.

964
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 5: Every time he catches the ball, they're just standing at

965
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 5: the room. He just the shots are there. Like if

966
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 5: if Sabonis wanted to just take twenty fifteen footers, he

967
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 5: could obviously do it, but that's not the way the

968
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 5: Kings play. They want dribble handoffs, they want cuts off

969
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 5: the post, but if there's if his defenders standing in

970
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 5: the middle of the lane, those cuts aren't there. Which

971
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 5: also makes it a problem for a guy like Kevin

972
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 5: Hurder to get good looks, a guy like Keagan Murray

973
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 5: to get good looks. It's completely taking the Kings out

974
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 5: of what they want to do offensively, Sabonis's reluctance to

975
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 5: create from the elbow and just kind of inability to

976
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 5: do it. Looney's done an incredible job. Draymond has done

977
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 5: a great job. Sabonis has not really made his imprint

978
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 5: in this series. I mean, how many times do we

979
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 5: see this year where he'd he have like a twenty

980
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 5: five point game, eighteen rebounds and nine assists something like that.

981
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 5: He's been putting up numbers because he's getting the ball enough,

982
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 5: but he could definitely force the issue a little bit.

983
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, we always compare him to Yokich, right, he's like

984
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 3: yo Kic light, He's diet coke, yo Kich whatever you

985
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 3: want to call him. But I would love to see

986
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 3: him have one of those Yokic games where it's like

987
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 3: Yokic at times is like, all right, I gotta shoot more.

988
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 3: I gotta be a little bit more aggressive. That's not

989
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 3: their DNA, we get it. Like they obviously are incredible

990
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 3: playmakers at their position, but Jokic will do that. I

991
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: think Siboni is to save this season, to save this series,

992
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 3: to get us back to a Game seven, and Sagramento,

993
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 3: I'm with you, Trey. I think he has to, Like, really,

994
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 3: he's got to force the action a little bit at

995
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 3: least at least give those little jumpers a go there

996
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 3: and shoot that free throw basically and just find out

997
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 3: if you're hitting it that night, but try and force

998
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 3: the action. I think that's gonna be. They're gonna have

999
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 3: to because Fox has done obviously all he can and

1000
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: now he's got the injury. I don't know, like, do

1001
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 3: Fox another you know, thirty eight point game in this series.

1002
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 4: I wouldn't think so, But yeah, Sponus has to do it. Yeah,

1003
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 4: it's a it's a good point. And the Yokch comparison

1004
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 4: is good. Yokich has been a leader in playoff series

1005
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 4: before this is the bonus is really first time as

1006
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 4: being the sort of number one big and a big

1007
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 4: part of an offense. And yeah, he's got to get

1008
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 4: comfortable just shooting the shots that are available to him,

1009
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 4: and they are leaving him open at the free throw lineyep.

1010
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 3: The other game last night, John Morant Desmond Bane and

1011
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 3: the Grizzlies Steve off elimination. They beat the Lakers one,

1012
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 3: sixteen and ninety nine. We don't say the word Steve

1013
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 3: for like ten months out of the year, never.

1014
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 4: I agree.

1015
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 3: You don't see it, you don't hear it, you definitely

1016
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 3: don't say it. And then you get into April, May

1017
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 3: and June and it's all about Steven. It's Steve's season, right,

1018
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 3: John Steves season.

1019
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 4: That was brutal.

1020
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 3: John Stemos, I don't know why it doesn't.

1021
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 4: He's in it.

1022
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: Well, I was with you, John Staves.

1023
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 4: But it's stave offt season, babies save us, Stamus, Well,

1024
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 4: why were you with me? There's a recent headline that

1025
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 4: he almost got Mary Kate and Ashley Olson fired immediately

1026
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 4: from full House. They didn't get along.

1027
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 3: They staved off elimination.

1028
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: John, Yeah, he was gonna get like babies fired.

1029
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 4: Yeah. They didn't get along. Yeah, And that's what I

1030
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 4: thought immediately.

1031
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 1: They were like tiny the four defense.

1032
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 3: He wasn't a dad, he was only an uncle.

1033
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: It's like you like that guy that sent the tweet

1034
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:37,479
Speaker 1: about kids having bad vibes. Sorry, we gotta go. Mary

1035
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: Kate I liked, but Ashley.

1036
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, Mary Kate, Ashley staved off elimination.

1037
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 4: Just use her as a stunt double. She can be

1038
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 4: Mary Kate can be Ashley too. That's what he said.

1039
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 3: You should have heard what he had to say about comment.

1040
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 3: He hated that fucking.

1041
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 4: Dog early comment, early death. How did that?

1042
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 3: Bain and Ja Moran playing well in the same game.

1043
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 3: That was a nice recipe for success. Here for the

1044
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 3: Grizzlies both having Monster Knights there, and you know, this

1045
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 3: was a close game, one point game. It was like

1046
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 3: three minutes ago or something in the third quarter, it

1047
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 3: was somewhat late, and then the Grizzlies just ripped off

1048
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 3: a twenty six to two run which like bled its

1049
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 3: way into the fourth quarter, and it was it was

1050
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 3: a wrap after that. And I think even the Lakers

1051
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 3: and Lebron realized as much. We were like, hey, let's

1052
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 3: get Weny and Gabriel or some run here. We'll see

1053
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 3: it back in La for Game six. But what'd you

1054
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 3: think here? Were you shocked at all how this one

1055
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 3: went down? Your takeaway from this game.

1056
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 4: It's fantastic that the Grizzlies got Bain going right now

1057
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 4: game four and game five. The guy is feeling it

1058
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 4: coming off a thirty six point Game four. They need him,

1059
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 4: and he was the difference in this one. I mean,

1060
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 4: thirty three, ten boards, five assists, four threes to get

1061
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 4: to that thirty three points, along with Moran who came

1062
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 4: back from a poor game four, any both of them,

1063
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 4: as you said, it was fairly close, and the Lebron

1064
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 4: James factor on the other side, a poor Knight five

1065
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 4: of seventeen, one of nine from three. They found a

1066
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 4: pretty good matchup in Xavier Tillman Against him, I think

1067
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 4: he's he's just solid. He's that monstrous body that can

1068
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 4: match him physically, especially because he isn't the same guy

1069
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 4: to leap over guys.

1070
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not attacking, like really sometimes not attacking mismatches.

1071
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: Something's up.

1072
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 5: Lebron came back really fast from his foot injury, right,

1073
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 5: Remember they said he had a torn tendon in his foot,

1074
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,439
Speaker 5: but he went and saw the Lebron James of feet

1075
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 5: and suddenly he's back playing. But he absolutely I don't

1076
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 5: think looks right in this series. He's never getting downhill.

1077
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 5: That's why they're able to go with Xavier Tillman. They're like,

1078
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 5: if anything, he's going to try and take a three

1079
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 5: point jumper, and Lebron the jumper is just not hitting

1080
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 5: right now. So far, he's six of thirty six from

1081
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 5: three in this series. So they're able to guard him

1082
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 5: with a guy in Xavier Tillman who would have never

1083
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 5: been able to stay on the court with Lebron in

1084
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 5: the previous nineteen seasons of his career.

1085
00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

1086
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 5: It seems to me that That's probably the biggest thing

1087
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 5: that happened for the Lakers last night is Lebron only

1088
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 5: having to play thirty six minutes and pull in them

1089
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 5: early so we can get some rest for this next one,

1090
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 5: because this is not the Lebron we're used to, even

1091
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 5: the game that he won for them in Game four.

1092
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: Like I said, it was old Lebron out there.

1093
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 5: He was going out and having to get twenty rebounds

1094
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 5: to contribute for his team and just had enough juice

1095
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 5: left for the most important shots.

1096
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: But looked weird last night.

1097
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 5: So yeah, you get a great performance from Desmond Bain

1098
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 5: and Jaw in the same game. I think it was

1099
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 5: the key, like you're saying, Skeets, because Bain played well

1100
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 5: in a game earlier this series. Jaw played well earlier

1101
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 5: in a game this series. Put it both together, thirty

1102
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 5: and ten for both of them. That's a nice recipe.

1103
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, you know you hear some Grizzlies fans.

1104
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 3: I know Chris Vernon one of them. The longer this

1105
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 3: series goes, the more maybe Fas favors a Grizzlies team

1106
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 3: because of their youth compared to the really a Lebron

1107
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 3: My team.

1108
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think the Lakers are going to get

1109
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 4: better as the playoffs go on. I think that's totally

1110
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 4: fair to say from series to series, game to game,

1111
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 4: a little less so because we could see Lebron turn

1112
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 4: it on, but I think the athleticism, it's a fair question.

1113
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 4: But also there is Jared Jackson junior behind him there,

1114
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 4: behind Xavier Tillman, and that's as Lebron's career has gone on,

1115
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 4: he doesn't want to go up and face guys at

1116
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 4: the rim after facing a big body. Lots of coaches

1117
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 4: have tried big bodies before. Throw a Brandon Bass out there,

1118
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 4: throw a bores Da, throw a Gershan Yabousele out there.

1119
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 4: It doesn't work like just a big really big bodies.

1120
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 4: Xavier Tillman is working, he should be faster than him.

1121
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 4: I totally agree, But the combo he's not right now,

1122
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 4: he's not. And yeah, I think I think Triple J

1123
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 4: being there as well plays a factor. But five turnovers

1124
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 4: obviously really doesn't have to do with either of those guys.

1125
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 4: That's on Bron. And yeah, a shot twenty nine percent,

1126
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 4: that five of seventeen, that's a lowes field goal percentage

1127
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 4: A long time for that guy. Almost almost a decade,

1128
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 4: So yeah, he's not right. Could be a spark in

1129
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 4: game six, I.

1130
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 3: Mean six Friday Night, I believe, is that right? I

1131
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 3: think it's every two days here now. Later in the

1132
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 3: Star Race, Yeah, pretty sure they played Friday night. Don't

1133
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 3: tell Jimmy Butler. I'm not really one hundred percent sure.

1134
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: D'Angelo Russell, though he scored the first eight points of

1135
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 3: the third quarter, I thought we were gonna get what

1136
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 3: exactly had happened in Game four where he suddenly like

1137
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 3: hit a bunch of threes and they were right back

1138
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 3: in the game. He did made it a one point game,

1139
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: but that's when Memphis like just responded with that huge run.

1140
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 3: John Moran was awesome, finished with back to back buckets

1141
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 3: at the end of the third and then being sort

1142
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 3: of took over the start of the fourth. But yeah,

1143
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 3: rough Lebron game started one to seven, didn't get any better.

1144
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 3: But the Silver Linings I didn't play forty five minutes

1145
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 3: and then he will try and get his body right

1146
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 3: for Friday Night as they try and close out the series.

1147
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 4: But David and Davis looked good, and I think Barkley

1148
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 4: made a good comment at halftime about Anthony Davis. They

1149
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 4: threw Dylan Brooks on him, so who's too tiny? And

1150
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 4: they sort of influenced encouraged Anthony Davis to be aggressive,

1151
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 4: and I think that's a fair point. He started just

1152
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 4: shooting over Dylan Brooks and that's why he ended with

1153
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 4: thirty one his best offensive game. Is that a good sign?

1154
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 1: Is that a good sign? For Game six?

1155
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 4: They scored a lot, because then you might not get

1156
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,919
Speaker 4: a great Game six from Anthony Davis orrs just maybe

1157
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,479
Speaker 4: we get those that run that he had earlier this season,

1158
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 4: where he was an MVP candidate for a while and

1159
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 4: looked like one of the best players in the game.

1160
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 3: Well, I said heading into the series, to me, it

1161
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, for the most part, eighty is going

1162
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 3: to be a bit of a stud statistically defensively, Lebron's Lebron, though.

1163
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 3: That was a brutal game and he looked quite old

1164
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 3: or quite banged up or whatever. Those guys are fine,

1165
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 3: it's gonna be who the hell is helping them out here?

1166
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 3: Four times in a seven game series, and they've had contributions.

1167
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 3: Ruey's been there. Obviously, we had the D'Angelo Russell crazy

1168
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 3: a little run there, that sparked out win in Game four.

1169
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 3: Reeves has had his moments, but not in this one,

1170
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 3: like really sort of fallen back to earth a little bit.

1171
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 3: Reeves four thirteen, you know, Russell four of eleven outside

1172
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 3: that little run, that eight point run there. To me

1173
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 3: are just like, is this going to be the Shrewder

1174
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 3: game or the Ruie game or the Reeves game or

1175
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 3: the Beasley game or whoever? It's that third guy. Somebody

1176
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 3: helped out Ad and Lebron and it's probably more likely

1177
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 3: to happen at home than it is in a tough

1178
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 3: place to win in Memphis. But they're gonna need some

1179
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 3: contributions there because they like Ham is convinced, like he's

1180
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 3: got six guys his starters, intruder and then it's like

1181
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 3: sort of a bit of I guess Ruey for the

1182
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 3: most part has been decent.

1183
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: It's been good.

1184
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you're like, okay, is it Brown juniors.

1185
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 3: Beasley is a Lonnie Walker even got in there for

1186
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 3: a little bit last night. Forgot he was even on

1187
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 3: the team. Hadn't seen him for a little bit. But

1188
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 3: we'll see it. We got a bit of a series here,

1189
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 3: Memphis trying to give us a Game seven that would

1190
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 3: happen on the weekend.

1191
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 5: Another one to watch Luke Canard hurt his shoulders in

1192
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 5: this one. Did he run into Anthony Davis? I think

1193
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 5: on a screen that's a yikes, because he's been playing

1194
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 5: really well.

1195
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1196
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 5: I went on a huge run in the second quarter

1197
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 5: when Canard checked in for Dylan Brooks. Two shooters on

1198
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 5: the court in jaw Orr, sorry in Bain and Canard.

1199
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 5: You got Jared Jackson Junior a decent.

1200
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 1: Stretch option as well. Gives a lot of driving.

1201
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 5: Lanes to John Morant, which I think was a huge

1202
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 5: part of the reason they went on that run in

1203
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 5: the second quarter.

1204
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: So if he's not able to go.

1205
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 3: In this next game, Dylan.

1206
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 5: Brooks, Yeah, it's a double bad edged sword for Memphis

1207
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 5: because you're losing the shooting and you're having to play

1208
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 5: Dylan Brooks more and he looks pretty broken right now.

1209
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 5: The trash talk completely backfired in this case. So yeah,

1210
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 5: get to work on the thera gun on Luke Canard's shoulder, yeap.

1211
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 3: And I would add to that, the Nard dog can

1212
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 3: actually play in this series when you have Lebron not

1213
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 3: really being super aggressive and seeking out mismatches like otherwise,

1214
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 3: I mean, older Lebron. If the Nard dog's out there,

1215
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 3: you're putting them in every action, it's going on him

1216
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 3: every time. But yeah, they don't sort of have that

1217
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 3: right now. That's not the level Lebron's at. So yeah,

1218
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 3: they need them, they need the shooting. So I don't

1219
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 3: know how. I don't know the severity of it. Yeah,

1220
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 3: it'll be good to go on Friday night. We'll see.

1221
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 3: We got to take one more break, but when we

1222
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 3: come back a very fun tweeted the night, don't anywhere

1223
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 3: all right back here with no dunks. Let's get to

1224
00:56:59,320 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 3: tweeted the.

1225
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 4: Night tweet O the night. Wow, there were a lot

1226
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 4: of fire.

1227
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 3: Tweets last night. In fact, I was changing my tweet

1228
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 3: to night every three minutes. I was like, that's good,

1229
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 3: I'll go with that one. Well, that's even better. I'll

1230
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 3: go with that one. I'll what about that one. In

1231
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 3: the end, I got tired and settled on this, But

1232
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 3: it's a good one from Alex at Steven underscore Lebron.

1233
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 3: He tweeted, now that we have the heat Knicks series,

1234
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 3: the heat Knicks should be allowed to add one player

1235
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 3: from the nineties to their roster for round two. Let

1236
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 3: me see what Charlie Ward and but Sean Leonard are

1237
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 3: up to. Great nostalgia. Tweet there from our guy, Alex,

1238
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 3: the author of cover story, I highly recommend it. He's

1239
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 3: got a new book coming out about our raptors, Prehistoric.

1240
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 3: I believe it's going to be called coming soon to

1241
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 3: a bookshelf near you.

1242
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 4: I got a pdffor so did I?

1243
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 3: You dipped in you? You're gonna print it?

1244
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: I can't read a.

1245
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 3: PDF on my computer.

1246
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 4: I'm not printing it. No, you don't want to. I

1247
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 4: don't want to, and I will not.

1248
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 3: Do you have a kindom?

1249
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 4: I got eyes? I know, I understand you don't want

1250
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 4: to read that many pages.

1251
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 3: I can't blind.

1252
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: Don't you look at that computer all the time?

1253
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 3: Exactly? I don't want the time. I want to read

1254
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 3: an actual book I'm printing. I'm going to go to

1255
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 3: a King Ko's print.

1256
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 4: It's called Prehistoric. You can't read that.

1257
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 3: An actual tablet carved into it, chiseled into it.

1258
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: Anyway.

1259
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 3: What a tweet?

1260
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: A what a tweet?

1261
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 3: Are your favorite nineties Knicks or Heat players that you'd

1262
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 3: like to see?

1263
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: Added Kurt Thomas, great one get to play for both teams.

1264
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 3: That's fair. That's the ultimate fair move here, the ultimate

1265
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 3: fair move team gets Kirk Thomas.

1266
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: I'm the all time screener the top.

1267
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 3: Sure, sure, sure, sure anyone else you'd like to see

1268
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 3: from the nineties.

1269
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 4: I want to make sure that there's good shooting in

1270
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 4: this one. I want Alan Houston. Okay, let's let's let's

1271
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 4: get Yeah, totally is I guess I'm a shan. It's

1272
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,919
Speaker 4: just great to see Vashon written again. Oh yeah, it's nice,

1273
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 4: really good V name. Don't get enough of those? Good enough,

1274
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 4: Mitchell's get enough v names. And Charlie Ward Yeah, I

1275
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 4: heard Jeff Fan Gundy mentioned him on a broadcast recently

1276
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 4: as well, because the series could happen. So I've been

1277
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 4: thinking about Charlie.

1278
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 3: Are we going to have a Van Gundy on every

1279
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 3: game of this series? Obviously, Jeff Fanny Knicks head coach,

1280
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 3: Damnn Gundy heat head coach. Not from the nineties, but

1281
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 3: you know, the.

1282
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: Coach against each other.

1283
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 5: Let them coach these teams. Why not broadcast when they're not?

1284
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 5: Bring back Tim Hardaway and Tim Hardaway Junior as well.

1285
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 5: They never played against each other in this series, but

1286
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 5: they both played for a Heat and a Nick.

1287
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 4: Did see a funny be on the bench too, Jeff

1288
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 4: on the next bench and stand on the heat bench.

1289
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Speaker 3: Funny response or funny reply to h at Steven underscore

1290
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 3: Lebron's tweet from Hollander, He said, how about Haslem? John

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01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 3: Hollander has jokes? He has so many damn jokes. He

1292
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 3: really does. I got a Twitter joke for everything, and

1293
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 3: they're all good, good puns, good lines. But man, you

1294
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 3: are logged on John.

1295
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 4: Not good enough to be tweeted tweeted the night though.

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01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 3: I can't make that the tweet the night. This is

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01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 3: the inspiration.

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01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 4: No, I know, I know, but he has so many tweets. Oh,

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's.

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01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 3: He's want to tweet the night. Yeah, all right, but

1301
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 3: he has all the John's we know at some point

1302
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 3: have had a tweeted night Schumann. Hollinger is is Jenkins.

1303
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 4: Twitter avatar and his Twitter header the exact same thing.

1304
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 4: It's like you get double John.

1305
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: I think he's uh showing that. Yeah.

1306
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 4: I used to be legit verified, legacy verified head got.

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Speaker 3: It here, John? Okay, Tonight's game only one of them

1308
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 3: Celtics hawks cocka game six? Who's going down to the Fortress,

1309
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 3: show hands, show hands. Nobody's going because you know why.

1310
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Speaker 3: The NFL Draft is on tonight. Gentlemen, The Athletic Football

1311
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 3: Show is covering the NFL Draft from Kansas City on

1312
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 3: their YouTube channel, so you can check that out. The

1313
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 3: Athletic Football Show. They do an incredible job covering the

1314
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 3: NFL and I would need the help here when it

1315
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 3: comes to the draft. I think Bryce Young is a

1316
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 3: lock to go number one to the Panthers, and then

1317
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 3: it's up in the air, and then what do you do.

1318
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 3: You take a big guy in blocks, you take the

1319
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 3: guy throws. You don't take a running back. I know

1320
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 3: that you do not draft a running back anymore. You

1321
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 3: are idiots. I saw the Athletic dot Com that the

1322
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 3: Atlanta Falcons are mocked.

1323
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: No, don't. I don't know. They've been taken. They've been

1324
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,959
Speaker 1: taking QB's, they've been taking tea.

1325
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 3: They need some defense, man, they are some defense. Go

1326
01:01:59,040 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 3: get me a corner back.

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01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right.

1328
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 4: As sure they're going to draft. I'm sure you're a

1329
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 4: fake Falcons fan.

1330
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, the shots, I do not appreciate it.

1331
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 4: Well, you're wearing a Hawks zip up with a Celtics

1332
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 4: shirt underneath.

1333
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 7: Not today, Not today. I gotta rip the Hawks. But

1334
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 7: I don't know anything about at all. No, I'm not whatsoever,

1335
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 7: have no idea same.

1336
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 3: But Celtic talks any any feel on this one? Do

1337
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 3: you think we go with Game seven baby? Or do

1338
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 3: you think Celtics take care of business?

1339
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,959
Speaker 4: I have zero field it does yeh, zero fiel, zero feel.

1340
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 4: I think the Celtics will bounce back, but they also

1341
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 4: were up late in the fourth quarter. They're they're good

1342
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 4: enough to bounce back. That's so I would pick them. Unfortunately,

1343
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 4: t K.

1344
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 5: It'd be interesting to see if the Boston Celtics decide

1345
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 5: they want to play defense in this game. They've given

1346
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 5: up one hundred and thirty, one hundred and twenty one

1347
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 5: and one hundred and nineteen in Game five. That has

1348
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 5: coincided with Trey Young finding his way in this series,

1349
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 5: basically putting up thirty and ten every single night. We

1350
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 5: had a bad Marcus Smart game in Game five and

1351
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 5: made some bone head mistakes down at the end of

1352
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 5: the game. So that's a guy I'll be watching tonight

1353
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 5: because I imagine he's gonna want to make it back

1354
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 5: to his team, So it should be a tough one

1355
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 5: for Trey Young. They're to get to Johntay Murray back.

1356
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 5: We got a home court advantage here and Atlanta should

1357
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 5: be let down at the Fortress, but none of us

1358
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 5: will be there.

1359
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 3: So Hawks have a chance. I mean, like I said,

1360
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 3: I just have to avoid this for the Hawks, chances

1361
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 3: of us of giving us game seven, because I've seen

1362
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 3: them lose twice in person, and I know if I

1363
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 3: were to go down there tonight, and our guy Jared

1364
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 3: he already texted me, He's like, hey, you want to go.

1365
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 3: I said, no, I can't. If I go, They'll lose

1366
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 3: by twenty five tonight. I'm one hundred percent convinced by that.

1367
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 3: So I'll stay away and maybe we get a game.

1368
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 3: We've got five of these eight first round series that

1369
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 3: are already wrapped up in five games or less, and

1370
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 3: it almost feels in a weird way like the Hawks

1371
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 3: inexplicably are our best chance out of Game seven. Grizzlies,

1372
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 3: I guess could they could beat the Lakers Kings. I

1373
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 3: don't feel as strong about going into Golden State and

1374
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 3: knocking off the defending champs that are at least giving

1375
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 3: us game seven. So man, Yeah, come on Atlanta, get

1376
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 3: Zaza out there, give them a mic after the game,

1377
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 3: and hopefully we got a game seven on the weekend.

1378
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 5: They gotta at least have that as like part of

1379
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 5: the pregame package, right, like they'll play that Zaza clip.

1380
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 5: I have to imagine standing room only tickets right now.

1381
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: Fifty nine dollars.

1382
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 3: It's just fantastic.

1383
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: But hey, it means it's a big game.

1384
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 3: Yeah it is. You know what's happened though, I think

1385
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 3: us talking about the standing room only tickets like over

1386
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 3: the last couple of years and how it's the best

1387
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 3: deal in the world, gets you in there.

1388
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: It's not bad.

1389
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 3: Like you're viewing experience the cats out of the bank.

1390
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 3: There's too many people now standing room only, right, you

1391
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 3: saw the other page ten Like you you can maybe

1392
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 3: get away with it because you're taller, so you can

1393
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 3: be a couple of rows back. But even then you

1394
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 3: got like a tiny window between the top of the

1395
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 3: like the ceiling there and then where you can see down.

1396
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 3: So I'm just saying, man, if you go SRO, you

1397
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 3: got to get there early. Plant your flag, bring a catheter,

1398
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 3: wear a catheter, don't bring it. You're gonna install your well,

1399
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 3: you have to take it off at security and put

1400
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 3: it through the X ray machine that you put back on.

1401
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 4: SRO tickets for the Kings are apparently one hundred and

1402
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 4: ninety dollars of the chat, according to Phillip A in

1403
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 4: the chat. But but you know what's funny.

1404
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 3: About the box tickets, Like they're standing room only. I

1405
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 3: get it, but I feel like other arenas have actual

1406
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 3: SRO areas.

1407
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 4: That's a little bit mow arenas.

1408
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 3: This is just like, this is the concourse and we're like, hey,

1409
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 3: you can come up here and hang in the concourse,

1410
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 3: stand behind a rope.

1411
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and to sort of open Yeah, they opened it up,

1412
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 4: but you know what I mean. Yes, oh yeah. The destinations.

1413
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 4: You go hang out at a spot.

1414
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 3: Right right right right now. It is nice. You're usually

1415
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,439
Speaker 3: right by the bar. Pisser's right there, Bob's your uncle.

1416
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 3: But you just got to get there. Because I couldn't

1417
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 3: believe it when I was there in Game four and

1418
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 3: I had seats luckily, but holy it was like six

1419
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 3: people deep for the SR all around the lower bowl.

1420
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 3: It's great to stand like it feels like you're working

1421
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:14,919
Speaker 3: out almost.

1422
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 4: Feel is like much of a feel. Just feel free. Yeah, yeah,

1423
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 4: bounce around more high fives. I think the high five

1424
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 4: percentages higher.

1425
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree with that.

1426
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of camaraderie. There a lot happening.

1427
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, because like when you're in your seat, you need

1428
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 3: like sure you can turn around give some high fives,

1429
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 3: but you also need the people ahead of you to

1430
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 3: turn around and give you high fives. Right, you don't

1431
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 3: you feel a little weird? Hey man tapping on? Somebody

1432
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 3: turn around, give me a high five.

1433
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 5: Okay, good, But but you're saying you don't got to

1434
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 5: coordinate that when you're doing a standing room only. I

1435
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 5: just think it's more we're everybody's hands are out.

1436
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah already yeah occupied, use.

1437
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,439
Speaker 3: You're standing already. It's weird to high fives sitting down

1438
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 3: like you want to stand if your team does something.

1439
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but you're come on like, I mean something exciting, amage. Yeah,

1440
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 1: you're standing on evening. Yay, you're not sitting down high fiving.

1441
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: I agree, excitement.

1442
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 3: You're just saying you're already in the standing position.

1443
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 1: In the prepped to high five. I guess that's true.

1444
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 4: I think all the people sitting are watching the athletics coverage.

1445
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 4: Of the NFL Draft. It's possible, pos I think that's

1446
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 4: a decent combo.

1447
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 3: Hold on a counter is if I'm a s r O,

1448
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 3: I'm holding my beer one hand out of hand, high

1449
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 3: five in commission. If I'm sitting, I got my little holder. Yeah,

1450
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 3: so now I'm.

1451
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 5: You could go two hands, but I mean that, I

1452
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 5: will say that does rarely happen. The stereo high five.

1453
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 3: It's pretty cool. I low do it big dunk and

1454
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 3: everybody just stood up and went boom and it was

1455
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 3: like the wave.

1456
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: Like it just goes. That's cool.

1457
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 3: All right, guys, enjoy that Celtics Hawks game tonight. Enjoy

1458
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 3: the NFL Draft if you're into that. Yes, sickos. If

1459
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 3: you are, make sure you go over to the Athletic

1460
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 3: Football Show and follow their coverage on their YouTube channel.

1461
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 3: If you're a No Bust survivor fan, Yeah, twelve thirty

1462
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 3: pm Eastern. We are hopefully going to get this one

1463
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,959
Speaker 3: started a little earlier than normal, so come check that out. Otherwise,

1464
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 3: back tomorrow with the Drop podcast. We will preview and

1465
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 3: predict two of the series that we know, and I

1466
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 3: guess possibly one more if the Celtics take care of

1467
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 3: business tonight I don't know if it. Celtic sixer sixers

1468
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 3: into tomorrow shown me a one action pack drop podcast,

1469
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,600
Speaker 3: so we'll see a live at ten m Easter. Until then, Clipperprooks,

1470
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 3: you heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

1471
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:42,759
Speaker 3: love you guys awesome.

1472
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us, folks, and remember we won't be

1473
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 4: out of the game tonight.

1474
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 3: Should we do playback?

1475
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 4: I got up for that'll we just tried to do

1476
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 4: a silh see playback's gone. How do you know who's

1477
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 4: the first?

1478
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: There you go?

1479
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 4: The pulse will never work.

1480
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 3: Embrace I gotta believe in the pulse.