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Speaker 3: way back. Welcome to Week fifteen of the NFL season.

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Speaker 4: Almost I believe it's Week fifteen. Usually almost there. We

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Speaker 4: probably at BAX for football to cover this year.

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Speaker 3: This is the twenty in the Huddle podcast week fifteen edition,

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Speaker 3: and I welcome in the Detroit News is Justin Rogers

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Speaker 3: does a great job with the news covering everything Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 3: And look, week fifteen. It's the dog days, right, it's

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Speaker 3: the stretch run. It's December, and it looks like a

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Speaker 3: pretty healthy Detroit Lions team heading into a really big matchup.

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Speaker 4: On Saturday, indeed, and a really big matchup on it.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't think we can understate that the

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Speaker 4: to dig out of it. This Broncos team is not

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Speaker 4: I guess what the doctor ordered. Teams playing very well.

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Speaker 4: Winners of six and seven really seem to have everything

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Speaker 3: They look a lot like Detroit did last year, you know, obviously,

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Speaker 3: with the rough start, and then they find defensively, started

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Speaker 3: to play better ball, took care of the football, got takeaways.

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Speaker 3: Dever leeds the league in takeaways. We'll talk about that

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Speaker 3: key matchup segment. We go through five real quick. Let's

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Speaker 3: start with Jared Goff and Justin Simmons. And when you

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Speaker 3: the last few weeks have been the turnovers. Eight turnovers

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Speaker 3: Denver leads the NFL with twenty four to take aways,

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Speaker 3: thirteen of those fumbles. I mean, they really do a

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Speaker 4: This week Yeah, I look at Simmons almost like I

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Speaker 4: to know that he won't necessarily fall for that eye

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Speaker 4: And only that he forces fumbles too. I think he's

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Speaker 3: Wow, and you look at Jared a little bit of

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Speaker 1: Play his best ball there.

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Speaker 3: doesn't defend the run very well. They're actually last, and

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Speaker 3: And you look at the touchdowns with him, He's got ten.

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Speaker 1: Eric Delawa does a great job the lead writer over.

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Speaker 3: There for Denver Broncos dot Com. Eric, thank you so

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got it to appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's kind of a lot of storylines going into

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think two things won. The defense is obviously

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Speaker 3: Taking the football away, not giving it away. That's a

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, I think it starts with running the football. In

436
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Speaker 7: the Offseasonnkos went out and kind of revamped their offensive line.

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Speaker 7: They got Mike McGlinchey from San Francisco, they got Ben

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Speaker 7: Powers from Baltimore, brought back a couple of guys, Garrett

439
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Speaker 7: Bowles got healthy, and they really prioritized added some ajp

440
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Speaker 7: Ryan from Cincinnati at running back and really prioritized running

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Speaker 7: the football. And I think that sets things up for

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Speaker 7: this team. When they're running the football well, then you

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Speaker 7: can use the play action game, which has been where

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Speaker 7: Russ is at his best this year. I think his

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Speaker 7: rating is in the one to twenties when he's going

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Speaker 7: off play action, had a lot of success there. His

447
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Speaker 7: completion percentage is really high, and it gives you a

448
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Speaker 7: chance to take those shots down the field that we've

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Speaker 7: seen again and again to Courtland Sutton. It seems like

450
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Speaker 7: every week Cortland's making some type of absurd catch you

451
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Speaker 7: after Russ launches went down there, and I think that's

452
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Speaker 7: always kind of been the staple when Russ is playing

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Speaker 7: really well, as a good run game, give him the

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Speaker 7: chance to throw those play action passes deep down the field,

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Speaker 7: get those chunk plays, control the football game, which pairs

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Speaker 7: well with that defense getting takeaways. And then I think

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Speaker 7: the other thing we've seen this year that we really

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Speaker 7: didn't see much of at all last year is Russ

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Speaker 7: using his legs. And certainly he did that a little

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Speaker 7: bit against the Chargers this last week, but I think

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Speaker 7: back to a couple of weeks ago against Cleveland, there

462
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Speaker 7: was a drive where Russ ran at two or three times,

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Speaker 7: and really it creates another element for a defense to

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Speaker 7: think about. And you know, he dropped weight before the

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Speaker 7: season began. That was a big storyline here in Denver.

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Speaker 7: Never officially confirmed how much weight he lost, but some

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Speaker 7: reports about fifteen pounds, and certainly has looked like he's

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Speaker 7: been able to run around a little bit better closer

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Speaker 7: to kind of how he was in Seattle. And I

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Speaker 7: think that that run element has been a big deal

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Speaker 7: and certainly defenses have to account for it. This past

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Speaker 7: week we.

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Speaker 2: Saw a play where you know, they use a.

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Speaker 7: Play that Jacksonville using the playoff game against the Chargers

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Speaker 7: with it looked like three backs kind of all flowing

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Speaker 7: to the right. Russ uses his legs, get back, gets

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Speaker 7: back to the left. Easy touchdown there for Denver. So

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Speaker 7: those three things, the running game, play action, and then

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Speaker 7: Russ using his legs, that's kind of been a formula

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Speaker 7: for this offense to find success.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's certainly something to watch too, because the

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Speaker 3: Lion's defense hasn't handled mobile quarterbacks all that well this season,

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Speaker 3: so you know, something obviously to watch Saturday night. Dan

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Speaker 3: Campbell has spoke glowingly of Sean Payton obviously a mentor,

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Speaker 3: he was just a head coach when when Shawn was

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Speaker 3: the head coach in.

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Speaker 1: New Orleans, has called him is one of his, you know,

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Speaker 1: key mentors.

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Speaker 3: I'm just curious what has Sean been saying about Dan

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Speaker 3: this week? Has he talked at him about him at all?

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Speaker 3: What's been the kind of conversation with with that matchup

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Speaker 3: this this weekend.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think kind of that same shared respect and

494
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Speaker 7: you know, expects a tough discipline, you know, kind of

495
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Speaker 7: scrappy team that you know, from the very first moment

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Speaker 7: that Dan Campbell was introduced there in Detroit. He talked

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Speaker 7: about instilling and yeah, Shawn's got nothing but respect there.

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Speaker 2: He's talked a little bit on Monday.

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Speaker 7: About their relationship and how impressed he's been by what

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Speaker 7: Dan Campbell's been able to do.

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Speaker 2: And really, earlier this year, the Broncos used the Lions

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Speaker 2: as an example.

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Speaker 7: I think it was after the Broncos felled a one

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Speaker 7: in five when Sean Payton said he talked to the

505
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Speaker 7: team about the Lions last year and said, hey, they

506
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Speaker 7: started off.

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Speaker 2: A little slow, had some close losses, and.

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Speaker 7: Then they were able to turn it around and as

509
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Speaker 7: you know, kind of run off all those games get

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Speaker 7: themselves back in the playoff hunt. I'm sure le Broncos

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Speaker 7: hope they can maybe get that one more win and

512
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Speaker 7: sneak in the playoffs. But it kind of is a

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Speaker 7: little bit poetic that le Broncos used the Lions as

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Speaker 7: an example earlier in the year and now they face

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Speaker 7: each other with both both having much higher aspirations.

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Speaker 1: And again I'm.

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Speaker 3: Speaking with Eric Delala does a great job as a

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Speaker 3: lead writer over there in Denver for the Broncos. Maybe

519
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Speaker 3: a player Lions fans night might not be too familiar with. Obviously,

520
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Speaker 3: this is the NFC AFC opponents, so they're not real

521
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Speaker 3: familiar with each other. But maybe one guy Lions fans

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Speaker 3: should should watch out for, one guy that could be

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Speaker 3: a big factor in the game Saturday for Denver.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go back.

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Speaker 7: I mentioned him a couple of minutes ago, but I

526
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Speaker 7: think he's still flying under the radar a little bit.

527
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Speaker 7: Jjakwan McMillan, second year guy, undrafted player. He got inserted

528
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Speaker 7: at that nickel corner roll kind of earlier in the

529
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Speaker 7: season after the Broncos just weren't having a lot of

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Speaker 7: success at that spot, and he's been a revelation. He

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Speaker 7: picked off Patrick Mahomes as kind of his initial welcome

532
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Speaker 7: to the NFL moment when le Broncos finally broke that

533
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Speaker 7: streak to Kansas City. He's been really good as a

534
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Speaker 7: coverage corner there in the slot. But then he's also

535
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Speaker 7: the Broncos have started bringing him in.

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Speaker 2: Safety. PJ.

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Speaker 7: Lock On blitzes a lot and Jaquan had it looked

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Speaker 7: like a strip sack that he recovered and returned for

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Speaker 7: a touchdown against the Chargers. They ruled that Easton Stix's

540
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Speaker 7: arm was barely coming forward, so it got overturned. But

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Speaker 7: he's a guy that's feisty. He's recovering fumbles. He ripped

542
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Speaker 7: one out on the first play in an upset win

543
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Speaker 7: in Buffalo a few weeks ago, recovered a fumble against

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Speaker 7: Minnesota in primetime. He's just got an act for the

545
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Speaker 7: football and I think coaches are really impressed with his

546
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Speaker 7: football IQ. They've said, again and again, you tell him

547
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Speaker 7: something once that he needs to fix it, and it's done.

548
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Speaker 7: He doesn't make the same mistake twice. So Obviously, the

549
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Speaker 7: Broncos had a great nickel corner and Chris Harris Junior

550
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Speaker 7: several years ago, and I think people are starting to

551
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Speaker 7: you know, he's not quite at that level yet, but

552
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Speaker 7: another really good undrafted guy that could be a staple

553
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Speaker 7: in this secondary for a while if he keeps playing

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Speaker 7: like this.

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Speaker 3: Eric, what's one key matchup you're really looking forward to

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Speaker 3: watching on Saturday?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's got.

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Speaker 7: To be how do the Broncos handled Detroit's running game?

559
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Speaker 7: Obviously a couple of really good running backs. And if

560
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Speaker 7: there's one area where the Broncos defense has still not

561
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Speaker 7: kind of perfected their play, it's in that running game. Obviously,

562
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Speaker 7: from earlier in the year, they really struggle there and

563
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Speaker 7: so that impacts some of the rankings. But we've seen

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Speaker 7: at times in Buffalo against Minnesota, teams find some success

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Speaker 7: on the ground, to particular Lily in the second half

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Speaker 7: against Denver when they've had their convincing wins, they've stopped

567
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Speaker 7: that early and forced teams to throw the football, and

568
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Speaker 7: I think that plays to Denver's strength. But you know,

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Speaker 7: to me, the key in this one feels like, can

570
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Speaker 7: le Broncos get ahead early and force Detroit to go

571
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Speaker 7: away from the running game, because if Detroit can stick

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Speaker 7: with the ground and pound, it feels like a recipe

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Speaker 7: for success just based on kind of where this defensive

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Speaker 7: strengths lie.

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Speaker 3: No, I one hundred percent agree because that's what Detroit

576
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Speaker 3: wants to do. I mean with David Montgomery and Jamior

577
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Speaker 3: Gibbs might be one of the better, you know, running

578
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Speaker 3: back duels, if not the best running back due in

579
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Speaker 3: the league. I think both those guys have a chance

580
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Speaker 3: to rush for a thousand yards. That's what they want

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Speaker 3: to do. You mentioned the statistic with Russell Wilson off

582
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Speaker 3: play action. It's the same thing with Jared Golf. So

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Speaker 3: that's going to be a really really key matchup. Eric,

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for taking the time. Great stuff,

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Speaker 3: safe travels here to Detroit and we will we'll talk

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Speaker 3: to you on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, appreciate it.

588
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the twenty in the Huddle podcast, and

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Speaker 3: I'm very happy to welcome in rookie linebacker Jack Campbell. Jack,

590
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Speaker 3: thanks for joining the pod. I know I had you

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Speaker 3: on I think right after you got drafted.

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Speaker 1: So it's been a minute. So let's start with this.

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Speaker 1: It's week fifteen in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I mean by now, college seasons done right, you're getting

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Speaker 3: ready for a bowl game, but you've had some time

596
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Speaker 3: to kind of relax and rest up the body.

597
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Speaker 1: A little bit.

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Speaker 3: They talk about that rookie wall a lot one.

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Speaker 1: Is it a real thing?

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Speaker 3: And just how are you from a health standpoint, how's

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Speaker 3: the body holding up after thirteen games?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, for sure, I mean yeah, once you think

603
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Speaker 5: about it, like a lot of like the rookies have

604
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Speaker 5: been going on it since their college season, so it's

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Speaker 5: been a lot. But at the same time, I feel

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Speaker 5: like it's a lot if you make it a lot,

607
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Speaker 5: and for me, just trying to handle it the best

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Speaker 5: I can. And again, like preparing the way I need

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Speaker 5: to prepare, doing the things I need to do to

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Speaker 5: come out here and be successful. But then when I

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Speaker 5: do have a little bit of free time, whether that's

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Speaker 5: like a night just spending like quality time with my

613
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Speaker 5: fiance was up here, so just just spending time with her,

614
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Speaker 5: kind of getting away and and just not really thinking

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Speaker 5: of trying to get football off my mind and kind

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Speaker 5: of focus on just like what normal.

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Speaker 6: People focus on.

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Speaker 5: And then also like or I'll just try to find

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Speaker 5: some time to just relax and just spend time, uh,

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Speaker 5: just on a walk or something like that, honestly, and

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Speaker 5: and that I feel like that's helped me a lot,

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Speaker 5: because I feel like at this point in the season

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Speaker 5: it's more mental than physical. And yeah, my body's fine.

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Speaker 5: It's just it's it's it's what you tell yourself inside

625
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Speaker 5: your head sometimes. So yeah, uh, next June.

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Speaker 3: Next June, how's the planning going. You have to make

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Speaker 3: up big time after the season.

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Speaker 5: You try to stay a little She's she's a saint,

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Speaker 5: so she's been she's been all all full throw out

630
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Speaker 5: on that her and some of like our parents have helped.

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Speaker 5: So I'm really appreciated that. So but when the season

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Speaker 5: is done, I think I'll be off the hook.

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Speaker 3: Most of congratulations that it's always a fun time. Look

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Speaker 3: at the last two weeks nine tackles, I think a

635
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Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, You're coming off season high ten

636
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Speaker 3: tackles in Chicago. Obviously not the result that you want,

637
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Speaker 3: but you feel like you're settling in a little bit. Jack,

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Speaker 3: you feel like after thirteen games that the game has

639
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 3: is slowing down or have you felt that way for

640
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Speaker 3: a while.

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Speaker 6: I would say I was sewing down a little bit.

642
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Speaker 6: I mean, I feel like I'm just.

643
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Speaker 5: Focusing on like doing my job every single snap, and

644
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Speaker 5: now that this far in the season, like honestly, I'm

645
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Speaker 5: still a rookie to everyone else, but in my eyes,

646
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Speaker 5: like I'm not really a rookie anymore because I've had

647
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Speaker 5: a lot of experience. I've had a lot of time

648
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Speaker 5: on the field. So just like learning from those mistakes

649
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Speaker 5: and not making the same mistake twice as my main

650
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Speaker 5: focus right now. So anytime, like I just go go

651
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Speaker 5: out there and get an opportunity, just I feel like

652
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Speaker 5: at times, like just being able to get off blocks

653
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Speaker 5: a little bit faster. Obviously at this leveled offensive lineman

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Speaker 5: a little bit more athletic can climb to the second

655
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Speaker 5: level a little bit faster, So just kind of folks

656
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 5: on getting off that and then going and making the play,

657
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 5: like not sitting there and sometimes being like, oh, like

658
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 5: I got blocked by the guard and then the tight

659
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 5: end ship me too, and that's why I didn't get

660
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 5: in on the tackle, but not making any excuses, just

661
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 5: getting getting in, getting in and being relentless to the ball.

662
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 5: I feel like this has been my main focus right now.

663
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 5: But at the same time, you got you gotta player,

664
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 5: you gotta do your job well within the scheme, and

665
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,959
Speaker 5: that's like my main focus right now. And just as

666
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 5: a defensive unit, I feel like taking some strides every

667
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 5: single week, and right now is the time that we

668
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 5: got to be playing our best football going in uh

669
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 5: to the obviously it's December, and if we we have

670
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 5: aspirations to obviously go play and win a Super Bowl,

671
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 5: So you got to make the playoffs first, so you

672
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 5: got to be playing your best football going into the playoffs.

673
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 5: So that's kind of the main focus right now.

674
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 3: You know, you talk about the athleticism of the offensive

675
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 3: lineman and getting off blocks. It seems to me too,

676
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 3: just from watching a guy even on our own team,

677
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 3: like Jamior Gibbs, the athletes that that you're asked to

678
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 3: cover something in that part of the linebacker position. How

679
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 3: much was that of maybe a little bit of adjustment

680
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 3: when you see just how big, how fast the Alvin

681
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 3: Kamaras of the worlds, and just how those guys can

682
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 3: make plays in the passing game? Was that Is that

683
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 3: an adjustment for young linebackers as welcoming here to the NFL, I.

684
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 5: Would say, yeah, you just you can't underestimate anybody in

685
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 5: the NFL, Like there's not one bad guy out there.

686
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 5: So then once you shed off the three hundred and

687
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 5: fifteen pound linemen who can run a four like eight five,

688
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 5: and then you get to the next level and then

689
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 5: you're going up against guys who can run four threes,

690
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 5: four fours and make one cut, make you miss and

691
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 5: get up and break any arm tackle that you throw.

692
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 5: It's I mean, it's unbelievable. So I mean, it's it's

693
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 5: it's it's a challenge. But I feel like that's kind

694
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 5: of why I just love being around the game because

695
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 5: I feel like it teaches you just a lot about

696
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 5: like who you are as a person, Like I've been telling, uh,

697
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 5: just all the people who have been closest to me,

698
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 5: this year has been one of my favorite years ever

699
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 5: because I've learned.

700
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 6: I've learned so much.

701
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I've just because obviously I came from a

702
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 5: scheme in Iowa that's different than the NFL because in college,

703
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 5: I feel like you can kind of keep your scheme

704
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 5: rolling throughout the season, but here you gotta be game

705
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 5: plans exactly. So, I mean, but you just learned so

706
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 5: much about yourself, you learn I've learned so many new

707
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 5: things just about the game. And then here I've got

708
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 5: to be a part of just a great organization.

709
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 6: So I just feel very fortunate.

710
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: How fortunate do you feel to be kind of in

711
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 3: a stretch run here? I mean we're talking about playoff

712
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 3: scenarios this week and you know, first division championship in

713
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 3: thirty years, And how fun is this kind of December

714
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: run going to be for you guys with with what's

715
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 3: on the line, and there are a lot of pressure

716
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 3: that that comes along with that.

717
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 6: I feel like you can't look ahead. You got to

718
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 6: take it one game at a time.

719
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 5: So right now, obviously, like I feel like for me

720
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 5: as an individual, sole focused on Denver. I feel like

721
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 5: it's a defense sole focus on Denver, and as a team,

722
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 5: we have the sole focus on Denver. So I just

723
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 5: feel like we're thinking the right way. But yeah, no,

724
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 5: it's exciting. I'm mean to just get the opportunity to

725
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 5: go out there and then do some things that a

726
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 5: lot of lines teams haven't haven't haven't done within the past.

727
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 5: But we got to go out there and uh, not

728
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 5: not focused too far in front of us, be where

729
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 5: our feet are being, be intentional with what we do

730
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 5: right now, and everything will take care of itself. I mean,

731
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 5: I just feel like a lot of people nowadays just

732
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 5: like to try to look ahead to everything. But you

733
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 5: just got to enjoy the moment you're in right now

734
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 5: and just make the most of it, of every opportunity

735
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 5: you get.

736
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 3: So, well, let's talk about We chatted a little bit

737
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 3: before the tape started rolling, just about Denver, just what

738
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: jumps out about them and the and the challenge you

739
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 3: guys have Saturday night in front of a home crowd.

740
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, for sure.

741
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 5: I mean, Denver is a fantastic football team, and I

742
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 5: just feel like they're a team who just does everything

743
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 5: the right way and It starts with their quarterback. I mean,

744
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 5: he's a veteran, he's been around, he's played, he's played

745
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 5: in the Super Bowl, so he's played at the high

746
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 5: he's played at the high level for years.

747
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 6: Yeah.

748
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 5: And then I feel like they have big, physical receivers,

749
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 5: fast receivers, so they're gonna take some their offensive line.

750
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 5: I mean they got I mean an NFL offensive line

751
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 5: is pretty dang good. I mean they're big, athletic, can move,

752
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 5: they get downhill fast, they're physical.

753
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 3: Uh.

754
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 5: And then then their backs they get they kind of

755
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 5: they run like a three guy rotation. Each one has

756
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 5: a little bit different flavor to them. But again, it

757
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 5: starts with them, and they're all very talented and they

758
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 5: all are very good.

759
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 6: At just different things. So it's just gonna be a challenge.

760
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 6: And then they got a couple of tight ends.

761
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 5: Who you can't again, you can't underestimate anyone, like it's

762
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 5: the NFL, and those guys are pretty good players. And

763
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 5: then they're gonna go out there and probably catch a

764
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 5: couple of balls and block their butts off. So I mean,

765
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 5: just looking at their offense as a hole, we have

766
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 5: our work cutout for us.

767
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 6: But again, it's an NFL and work and.

768
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 3: Said it was a good week of practice. So he

769
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 3: said he really loved the practice on Wednesday, said it

770
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 3: was really player led. And do you feel the same

771
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 3: way you guys have had a good week of preparation

772
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 3: and how much you're looking forward to getting back at

773
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 3: home in front of this home crowd.

774
00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, I feel like this.

775
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 5: We did a great job of practice and it's we're

776
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 5: gonna finish.

777
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 6: It tomorrow with a great quick walkthrough.

778
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 5: But again, yeah, I mean back home back in Detroit,

779
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 5: the fans here amazing, So I mean we're excited to

780
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 5: just go step foot in Ford Field and and just

781
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 5: cut it loose.

782
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 6: So it's gonna be fun.

783
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 2: All right.

784
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 3: A couple quick quick ones for you, Just Alex Anceloni,

785
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 3: veteran guy, just what has he meant to to your development.

786
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 1: As a rookie?

787
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 5: I would say, Alex, Yeah, he's just been great, just

788
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 5: always like pointing out little things that I don't really

789
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 5: think about and then kind of explaining the reasoning like

790
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 5: why I should be like thinking that way. And then

791
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 5: he also has just been like super supportive.

792
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 2: Just to me.

793
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 5: And then Trevor Nwawski's the other our freaky linebacker. He's

794
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 5: been great to us, But honestly, the whole room has

795
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 5: been fantastic. Uh, Jeram Jalen Reeves, Mayben, he's been fantastic

796
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 5: to us. Derek Barnes has been fantastic. Malcolm Pitt, I mean,

797
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 5: and and all those guys have put a lot of football.

798
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 6: And and know what they're talking about.

799
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 5: So it's been it's been awesome to get to to

800
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 5: get a sit in a room with them and just

801
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 5: like here, like what they have to say, and just

802
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 5: allow them to teach you new things.

803
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 6: Has been amazing.

804
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 3: So and how much have you enjoyed Covin Sheppard as

805
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 3: a coach? You know, a guy who's been in this league,

806
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 3: who's been there, you know, won't ask you to do

807
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 3: something that he hasn't already done or been asked to do.

808
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 3: You know, one of those kind of coaches we love

809
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 3: talking to him in the media is he is a

810
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 3: tense in that room and and just you know the

811
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 3: impact he's had on that room as a player or

812
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 3: a player and not.

813
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 5: Coach, Yeah, I would say coach, chef man. He's he's

814
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 5: been awesome. H He carries that intensity into everything he

815
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 5: does football wise, and just then like off the field,

816
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 5: he's just like just a good human being and I

817
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 5: feel like he's just like pushed me in so many

818
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 5: different ways, and he's just like he almost the best

819
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 5: for the room. He wants the best for every single

820
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 5: guy in there. So just like taking what he has

821
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 5: to say and then just applying it and again not

822
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 5: making the same mistake twice is a big thing, just

823
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 5: kind of feel like as a team but also in

824
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 5: our room.

825
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 6: And I would just say he just finds ways to

826
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 6: push you just a.

827
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 5: Little bit harder and just allows you to just like

828
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 5: reach do things and reach things that you never thought

829
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 5: you could. So yeah, no, he's been amazing. He's been

830
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 5: amazing for the linebackers, and he's just just just he's

831
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 5: gonna tell you. He's gonna tell you what you need

832
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 5: to hear, now what you want to hear, which I

833
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 5: mean respect exactly.

834
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 3: All right, let's finish with this one. Your your your

835
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 3: teammate at I with Sam Laporta, and obviously he's doing

836
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 3: some things in terms of the production that he has

837
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 3: that is very very rare to surprise you at all,

838
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 3: just knowing him, knowing the way he works, having come

839
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 3: from the same spot.

840
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I mean, so I lived with him and

841
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 5: now it doesn't sounds like there could be. But now,

842
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 5: I mean, he's just he's a he's a guy who's

843
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 5: just a genuine human being.

844
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he's passionate about what he does.

845
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 5: And I feel like anytime you get those two things,

846
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 5: it's gonna create a pretty dang good player. And man,

847
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 5: he's he's worked his heay off for everything that he's

848
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 5: gotten up to this point. He's not gonna stop. He's

849
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 5: gonna keep going. So now I'm just so proud of him.

850
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 5: I'm excited for just everything that he that he's done but.

851
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 6: Will continue to do.

852
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 5: So, I mean, it's just been amazing that we've got

853
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 5: to share just the experience of being in the same organization,

854
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 5: just in our rookie season.

855
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 6: So it's been awesome.

856
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 3: Well, you're making a big end back to seventy tackles,

857
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 3: four tackles for loss. I've been playing big minutes and

858
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 3: and you know, you guys are gonna have to play

859
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 3: well down the stretch here to get where you want

860
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 3: to go. So I appreciate you taking the time to

861
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 3: join me. Good Luck on Saturday night, good Luck the

862
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 3: rest of the way. And hopefully where we can talk

863
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: a little later on about the playoffs exact for take

864
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 3: care of Denver first.

865
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 6: Awesome, Thank you, sir, thank you, thank you. M.