WEBVTT - Tim Rosaforte: Celebrating a Life and Legacy 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.280 Well, I appreciate you being reaching out allowing me to 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:07.440 be a part of it, because there's, uh, there's really 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:10.000 not many people I like and respect more Tim. And 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:13.239 it really is such a sad thing because he was 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:16.560 so great what he did, worked so hard, loved his 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:21.680 family so much, and then to have the time, yeah, 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:25.040 in retirement, taken away from him with this with Alzheimer's 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:32.159 is really a sad thing. Put another log on the 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:43.640 fire and nobody hears is give the time. Welcome to 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:54.639 the fire pit with Matt Chanella. Tim rose Afford spent 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:58.920 his life telling stories about golf's greatest players. Now it's 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:02.720 time to tell Rosie's story. A towering figure in the 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:06.000 golf media, Tim died on January eleven, at the age 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:10.200 of sixty six from complications related to early onset Alzheimer's. 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:14.360 It's hard to believe anything could fill this pillar of strength. 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:18.320 In press rooms and on the course, he moved slowly 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:21.720 but diligently, the bow and his legs, a byproduct of 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.840 the sports he played growing up in Brewster, New York. 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:28.640 He once told me that as an undersized offensive lineman 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.880 in college, subbing in on special teams, he had to 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:35.399 block Joe Cleco, the future All Pro defensive lineman for 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:39.160 the New York Jets. Young Roosfort was driven back so 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:41.840 hard by Cleco that Tim could smell the burn of 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:45.080 the rubber on the bottom of his cleats. No shock 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:48.680 to anyone who knew Rosie. Cleco didn't block a punt 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:52.480 that day. He was proud of that and so much more. 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:56.040 Tim was proud of his family, which included his wife Genevieve, 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:00.200 their two daughters, Jenna and Molly, and he was out 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:03.760 of the men they married, Nick and Mason. He doated 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:06.560 on his three grandchildren, and he played a significant role 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:09.800 in the life of Grayson. He helped raise Grayson as 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.800 though he was his own son. Tim stepped in and 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:14.960 stepped up because he felt it was the right thing 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:18.080 to do. In all the years I knew him, which 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:21.000 goes back to Sports Illustrated in the mid nineties, Tim 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:25.960 always did the right thing, quietly and consistently. He didn't 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.200 want pats on the back. He just wanted to better 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:32.639 himself and those around him. Tim had long been celebrated 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:36.640 as golf's ultimate insider. He built his career not on 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:40.000 dazzling typing skills, but the kind of tenacity that held 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:44.600 back Joe Cleco. Tim was always renting a car, hopping 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.639 a shuttle, catching a plane, and he always made one 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:51.680 more call on one of his two phones. Once Tim 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:55.240 started reporting a story, he never stopped. He learned from 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:58.440 his father, a garbage man who saw dignity in hard work. 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:02.000 As a kid, Tim often wrote around in the truck, 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.600 either helping out the crew or sliding around in the 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:07.560 cab while reading books. His first set of golf clubs 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.119 were cobbled together from what his dad would rescue out 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:13.720 of the trash bins. That kid, from humble beginnings, the 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.240 oldest of four in his family, went on to win 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:20.960 Lifetime Achievement awards for his writing. The craft didn't come 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:24.600 easy for him, so he compensated with conviction, filling his 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.960 stories with details no one else had and anecdotes only 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:32.600 he could get. His first beat was dirt track car racing, 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:35.800 and he once interviewed Doc Gooden as a Little League 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:39.160 All Star. He covered over a hundred and fifty majors, 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:43.200 winning some forty awards, and writing four books along the way. 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:46.720 In all of his travels, Tim rarely missed a chance 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.880 to tee it up at Olive golf's greatest citadels, his 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:53.560 incomparable Rolodex coming in quite handy for setting up a match. 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.080 He wouldn't want to play for much, and by the 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.280 end he preferred to play for nothing at all. A 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.440 plus eight at asking the tough questions, Tim was a good, 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:07.360 let's say, ten handicap on the course, but it wasn't 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:11.720 because of a lack of effort. It never was with Tim. 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:15.000 From Sports Illustrated, Too, Golf Digest, in Golf World, and 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:17.880 then to Golf Channel. I seemed to always be somewhere 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:20.640 right behind him, and what a good place to be. 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.359 Tim never stopped being a lead blocker for me, opening 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:27.120 holes so broad and inviting that even I could run 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:30.040 right through him. It was as if I had a bodyguard, 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:34.080 a guardian angel. I wouldn't hesitate to call him a 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:38.479 big brother, and although that felt so special, I know 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:42.479 I wasn't alone. Tim Rosaffort was beloved because he was 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:45.720 a great teammate for so many of us. The godfather 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:50.560 of golf journalists, Tim led by example, selflessly and unconditionally, 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:54.880 always supporting someone in need. No one ever outworked him. 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:59.320 He had no enemies, and everyone called him back and 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:02.200 when I asked long list of Tim's friends and colleagues 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:06.480 to help me produce this podcast, he'd smile, knowing they 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:10.919 all called me back. So settle down, settle in the 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.520 Tim Rose Afford story here is about to begin. My 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.080 goal was to out rosy Tim rose effort on his 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:22.400 own story upon hearing about his diagnosis of early onset Alzheimer's, 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:25.560 which goes back to the summer of I did what 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:30.440 he taught me to do, be intrepid. On that note, 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:33.400 we start with Jerry Tarney, who was the editor in 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:36.520 chief of Golf Digest for over four decades, who throughout 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:40.520 this podcast offers his perspective on Tim's incredible life and 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:45.719 the legacy he was the bridge from the past to 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.680 the present in terms of the way journalism is practiced. 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:52.120 You know, Charlie Price is an example. Used to take 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:55.680 a month to write one column. That's all he did. 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.120 He wrote one column a month, and it was the 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:02.880 words on paper that matter. That's the thing in the past. Now, 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.680 what Tim brought to it is he could do all 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:10.560 the stuff. Not that not that he was a technologist, 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:15.840 but but he he ushered in social media that the 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:22.359 digital age being on television. It all came together with 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:27.480 with Tim, and what he brought with him was preparedness 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.120 and he took that from the old world. So he 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:33.000 was that bridge from the old world of journalism to 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:36.600 the modern one. And I would add the one thing 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:42.560 that he didn't have that so many guys in his 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:46.360 profession have and we're all guilty of it, I think, 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:51.440 except for Tim, is he didn't have that cynicism, that 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:57.200 cynics virus that so many writers have, and it comes 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:01.479 from hanging out in bars and pressed and talking to 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.880 ourselves and in many cases trying to write like Dan 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:10.360 jenkins Um, He's not. He was never a cynic. He 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:14.120 loved it and he and it's why people trusted him, 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:17.800 because he wasn't going to take advantage of you. Tim 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.360 told me that it was guys like Davis Sesna, an 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:23.960 incredibly connected member at Seminole and Pine Valley, who helped 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:28.120 shape his life and career. I asked Davis what made 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:33.000 Tim so special? The thing that you immediately recognize about 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:41.800 Tim roselford is that he asks thoughtful questions from from 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:46.040 his heart and he and he listens to the answer. 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:50.160 Here's Craig Doulsch, another Florida base writer who goes back 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:53.040 to the early eighties with Tim. We all love about 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:56.320 Tim as he earned everything he ever got in this business. 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:59.400 Nothing was ever given to him, and if anything, he's 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:01.200 given an off a lot back to the business, and 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:04.320 he's ever taken from the business. Mark mulvey was the 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:07.559 legendary editor of Sports Illustrated in the eighties and early 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:12.720 nineties who hired Tim from the Palm Beach Post. You know, 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.640 God knows that he worked hard. You know. Writing did 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.920 not come easy to him, you know, but he understood 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.320 that if you saturated a story with facts and let 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:24.840 the facts flow in a logical order, you have the 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:27.559 hell of the story. Here's Jim Nance on his friend 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.760 Tim rose Afort. I lean on Nance later in the 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:35.520 podcast for his insight and information about Alzheimer's. So we 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:39.400 start with the love of the game undeniable, and then 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:43.959 you go with the interior in the integrity quotient, which 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.440 I mean, I don't know how you have so many 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:52.560 scoops and so much inside information and not have people 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:56.600 that I feel like they've been burned. I don't know 0:08:56.720 --> 0:09:00.960 anybody never felt like Tim ever burned them on anything. 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:05.120 And I think what it is is that he's just 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:09.200 such a good person that people realize he was doing 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:13.400 his job. He worked it harder than anybody else, and 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.240 he did it with an understanding of the sensitivity of 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:19.959 the information, how it affected each individual. So he gave 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:24.800 his audience the truth, and he gave the subjects that 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:30.679 he was covering. He gave them truth, and he gave them, 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:36.840 if you will, um a complete understanding that I'm going 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.480 to treat this with integrity. It was a love of 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:44.240 people Tim has that we'll hear from John Hawkins throughout. 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.000 Hawk was a colleague at Golf World and Golf Digest, 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.760 and together they did some of their best work. Very 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:53.880 few people brought that type of intensity and compassion, willingness 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:59.760 to share, willingness to to his knowledge was your not 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:04.600 and there's not not everybody's like that. He was the 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:09.880 greatest teammate in history of golf writing. And we would 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:11.959 go a hundred years and that would still be said. 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.959 And then there's Matt Haggarty, Golf Channels coordinating producer who 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:19.080 started working with Tim in the early two thousand's. You know, 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.680 he knew so many people. He was really connected. You know, 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:24.200 he was a heavyweight that was That was my first 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:27.679 impression of him. And then as we got to go, 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:31.840 you know, we started to you know, evolve. Then he 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:35.800 really became like a like a like a big brother 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:41.640 to me, uh in a way you know, um, you 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:44.160 know he would I've told this story before, but he 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.080 wasn't afraid to tell me to talk to my shirt. 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.560 He wasn't afraid when I was a kid, you know, 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:55.720 to act more professional, you know, like he you know, 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.200 I think he I mean, he liked me, you know, 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:00.719 and I and I was lucky and he liked me. 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:04.319 And when he likes you, he's you know, he's honest 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:05.959 and he'll tell you how he feels. I mean, I 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.440 think he's honest with everybody. But he told me how 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:11.480 he felt, you know, and a lot of that stuff 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.760 was really important. And then when I had my first child, 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.760 you know, I had a daughter, and he would you know, 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.240 he would give me advice on parenting. He would say, 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:23.400 he can't be so direct, he can't be so direct 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:26.640 with your kids. You know. He was always there for me, man, 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:29.040 from the day, from the from the from the you asked. 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.080 I mean, I'm just going on and on and on. 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:34.120 But like when you asked the first time I met Tim, 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:40.240 Like all these moments and memories fled back and I 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:43.880 spoke to Molly Solomon, the executive producer of the Golf Channel. 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.200 Tim would always track her down and demand coaching on 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.240 how and why he could get better on TV. And 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:53.800 that's what always frustrated him is that I didn't have 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.320 that much feedback and say, okay, buddy, you know you 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:59.440 don't need those cards. Like he always had cards on 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:03.040 the set, right, and he'd rely on his cards. I'd see, Timmy, 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.839 you know this stuff. I just want you to talk 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.760 and have a conversation with the audience, just like you 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.679 have with me. You don't need those cards. But they 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:14.199 were a crush. He was like, I know, they're a crutch. 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:18.320 So I always wanted him to believe in himself as 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:21.199 much as I believed in him. As you can see, 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.640 this podcast is running a little longer than the rest, 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.400 and there are reasons for that. I set out to 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.480 tell the story of his career while also celebrating the 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.559 life of an incredible man, and part of me never 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:35.480 really wanted to finish this project because by working on it, 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:38.160 talking to so many people who had so many fond 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:43.600 memories and incredible anecdotes. Was cathartic. I've done a lot 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.920 of laughing, a lot of crying, and like I said, 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:50.440 I just want to make him proud. So let's go 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:54.080 back to the early eighties in Florida. Jeff Russell, Molly 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.800 Solomon's husband, who would go on to be Tim's boss 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:59.120 at Golf World magazine and work with Tim at the 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.640 Golf Channel, was in his early twenties. He was as 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.120 fresh as fresh kids, and he was new to covering 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:09.040 the LPGA. I will never forget that Tim welcomed me 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.600 from the from the day I walked in. You know, 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:15.040 he was interested in me, and he I took the 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:18.400 time to find out who I was and what you know, 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:22.319 what my background was, and and of course I love 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.960 to play golf, and so did Tim, and we pretty quickly, 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:29.040 we pretty quickly, you know, he was inviting me out 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:32.680 to play golf, and we'd go and and play, you know, 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:35.360 you know, even on days when he was when he 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.080 was working and had a deadline, you know, he would 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:41.320 we'd go and play golf somewhere early. You know, it 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.480 was always kind of Tim's choice. And Tim, you know, 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:47.560 you know, and and we and That's how we met, 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.640 and I just couldn't believe. You know, Tim at that 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:52.920 time was a you know, he's a big deal in 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.679 the Golf Writers Association of America. I don't remember if 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:57.920 he was president yet, but he was an award winner. 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:01.280 He was winning, you know, he was writing awards and 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:03.800 and and all the players knew him. And here was 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:06.720 this guy. You know, he took me under his under 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:10.280 his wing and um and it was fantastic. You know, 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:13.480 it was fantastic. Made me feel like like I belonged, 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:16.040 but also pretty quickly made me feel like, wow, you 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.240 know I can you know I can do this. And 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:22.840 and you'd you know, you'd spend spending a month there. 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.240 You know, the we go to the tournament the next 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:28.760 week and Thursday or or or Friday, the you know, 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:30.640 the issue of the magazine. We get to the press 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:32.920 room and you know, Tim and pick it up and 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.440 read it and come up and go, you know, nice job, 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:37.280 that was a good story, or hey you got that 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.000 note that was good or you know it was it 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:43.720 was awesome. It was great. He was you know, could 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:49.960 not have been nicer, sweeter and more encouraging, you know, 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.400 to a twenty five year old kid who was trying 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:56.880 to get going in the business. Back to Craig Doltra 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:00.560 a recap of Tim's resume of Florida papers. Worked at 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.280 the Tampa Times, he worked at the clear Water Sun, 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:07.000 He worked at the Fort Lauderdale Sun Sentinel at that 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:10.200 point the Palm Beach Post where I was working. They 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:12.400 went and hired them to be their golf writer, which 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.040 is a great move on their part. And he worked 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.920 there for a few years, and then Sports Illustrators started 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:22.040 getting really serious about doing their golf plus coverage. So 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.960 Mark mulvoy had hired Tim to come in and really 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:27.440 kind of head up, be the kind of fullback, the 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:29.600 guy that would go out and break the news, do 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.480 all the hard work. And so Tim worked for Sports 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:35.120 Illustrated for about three or four or five years. It 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.200 was actually just a little over two years at Sports 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:42.560 Illustrator for Tim from nine six. Here's Mark mulveaway again, Timmy. 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.040 When I hired him, I said, Timmy, I really want 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.360 you to be the Peter King of golf. I said, 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:50.560 I want people when they read your step to find 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.760 out things about themselves they don't even know, which is 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.880 the way Peter. Of course, a Hall of Fame journalist 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:00.040 UH covered pro football. You know Timmy and Pete. You 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:05.480 know they're not Rick Riley behind the the typewriter people 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:09.440 like that, Gary Smith. But they're great, great, great reporters. 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:13.600 And you can have a tremendous, tremendous success in Sports 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:16.920 Illustrated or any other publication if you're a great reporter 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:20.040 or a dependable reporter, and nothing stands in your way 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.520 of getting this. And that was Timmy. Now in the 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:26.880 big leagues, surrounded by an insane roster of talent, Tim's 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:30.720 self doubt was immersing itself into his keyboard. I kept 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.400 having to tell him. I said, Timmy, you can't compare 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.480 yourself to Himie, you can't compare yourself to Rick. You 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:40.120 can't compare yourself to Al Shipment. I said, these guys 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.120 are different stylists. I said, would you bring something to 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:47.240 the table that we desperately needed Sports Illustrated reprotige. You're 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:50.120 the Peter King of golf and that's how you'll thrived here, 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:53.720 believe me, and he did. Here's Himie Diaz, another legend 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:57.080 of modern golf journalism, who offers his perspective on why 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:00.360 Tim's time at Sports Illustrated was short lived. Well, I'm 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:05.040 being honest. Uh, they were difficult days in many ways 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:08.800 because it was really challenging. Uh. It was a big 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:12.760 step up for Tim. He wanted it, and he tried 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:15.960 really hard, and he did a lot of really good stuff. 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:20.520 But the you know, the atmosphere at Sports Illustrated was 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:23.679 was cold compared to where he had worked. You know, 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.199 he had worked in kind of family situations where you 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:28.719 got to know the sports editor and of course everybody 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:31.880 really loved him, so he would lean on those kind 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:34.439 of nurturing relationships and it was hard for him to 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.920 get that at Sports Illustrated. Having said all that, you know, hey, 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:41.800 Mark Moboy hired him and and they remained great friends. 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.119 But I just think the atmosphere was one that was 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:49.440 challenging more than the actual work. He just he always 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:51.760 like me, you know, but maybe even a little more 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:53.399 in some ways. He felt like he always had to 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:57.159 prove himself and had some insecurities there, and he just 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.240 didn't get a lot of approval at Sports Illustrated in 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.879 the same way he was used to. So, um, I 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:03.600 think he always felt like, man, that wasn't good enough, 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:07.520 that wasn't good enough. And probably drove himself a little crazy. Uh, 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:10.119 and so in that respect, even though Sports Illustrated was 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.280 a great place and in some place, in some ways 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:17.400 the epitome of sports writing in this country, he did 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.119 better by going to Golf World, by going back to 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:24.240 Golf World, because there he could, you know, get comfortable 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.240 with people, and they you understood him better, and it 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:29.840 was just less of a big machine and more of 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:35.600 a family. Mulvoy left Sports Illustrated, and so did Rose Afford. 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:38.560 If I had not retired, he would have stayed at 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:42.080 Sports Illustrator, believed me a lot longer than that. I 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:45.439 had a specific idea in mind, is to what he 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:47.800 brought to the magazine, which is what I had for 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:50.600 Peter and you know Riley and Shipnuk and everybody else 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.280 we brought. Then. I don't think my success or or 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:55.879 success ors, you know, they just wanted to take the 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:58.639 magazine to do different things, which is fine, that's the prerogative. 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:02.080 But if I had stayed her, and I wasn't thirteen 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.720 years was long enough to put out a weekly magazine, 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:07.000 I think Timmy would have stayed certainly as long as 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:10.720 I did. Feeling snubbed by S I himI Diaz confirms 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:13.920 Tim was now even more motivated to prove his critics wrong. 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:18.480 Every knock back drove Tim ten steps forward, Like you 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:20.600 better if you're gonna knock them back, you better be 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:23.800 prepared for what's next, because what was next after Sports 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:27.200 Illustrat was probably one of the greatest runs in modern 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:30.960 golf journalism. In my opinion, I agree with you. I mean, 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:35.400 he really is a fiery competitor, and he definitely would 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.359 keep it hard inside himself to get even you know, 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:41.679 and to show everybody. And that was a great motivator. 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:45.439 And he didn't talk about it much, but you know 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:47.840 it would come out that it was there, that that 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:50.840 was really in many ways what took him the extra 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:53.120 mile when he was doing something to do it spent 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:56.960 in a special way. Here's Jeff Russell on the acquisition 0:19:57.240 --> 0:19:59.560 of a Hall of Fame clean up hitter, you know, 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:02.880 work king at the other shop. He was a formidable opponent, 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:05.040 you know, he was he was, he was a pain 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:07.960 in the ass. He he got, you know, he got 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:11.640 information that that that we didn't have. Now I don't 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:14.880 know what happened. I don't never really never really got 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.600 the full story about what happened to him at Sports Illustrated. 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:22.840 All I know is they one day he became available, 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:26.400 you know, he became available and we couldn't hire him 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:33.439 fast enough. And when he came to Golf World, um 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:38.200 And we were probably so that was probably ninety ninety 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:40.600 seven in there, so you know, and and I was 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:44.680 his I was his de facto editor for for until 0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:48.920 two thousand when I became in you know, entitled the editor. 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:52.240 So I was his editor for fifteen years at Golf World. 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:55.680 I think we had a great relationship, and you know 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:58.000 it was it was just a comfort to have somebody 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:00.080 on the staff that you could say, Tim, I need it. 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:02.399 I need to know what happened here, you know, I 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:06.400 need you to you know, what what happened with Tiger 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:10.640 and Tim Fincham, what happened with you know, what happened 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:14.119 with Honora you know, Seorenstam and the and you know, 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:17.480 I mean, what happened you know, John Day fell off 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:20.320 the wagon? What happened? He would go and find out, 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:26.320 He would go and get the information, and you know, yeah, 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:28.920 there might have been times where you felt I felt 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:33.960 like he was protecting um And and and maybe not 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:38.320 telling me everything. He knew, but if I pushed him 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:42.280 on it, he he would, you know, if I if 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:44.520 I really made it a big deal, I've usually got 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:46.840 what I wanted. A lot of times Tim would say, 0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:48.719 you know, if you would just if you would just 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:51.679 back off here and let's take the long view. I 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:54.359 think this will. I think this is We're gonna have 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:56.760 enough that we can use it now and and we're 0:21:56.760 --> 0:22:00.040 going to continue to be able to get information in 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:02.280 the source if we need it and it and he was. 0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:05.480 I thought it was a great partnership and I never 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:12.879 never felt like like it it costs golf world, you know, 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:17.560 any anything in terms of I mean, he instantly made 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:22.160 our team better and and I think not only because 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:25.160 he made us better, but because the other guys lost him. 0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:29.760 It's Tiger is turning pro and a motivated roos Aford 0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:33.320 gets a seat at Golf Digest table of talent. Here's 0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:36.400 Jerry Tardy on getting access to Tim rose Aford. Even 0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:41.760 in the beginning, he was grounded in that South Florida 0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:47.280 world of golf pros, and he knew he knew golf, 0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:51.000 he knew the tour, and he was he was a 0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:56.200 great reporter. And that even even at the very beginning 0:22:56.200 --> 0:22:59.720 that was the case. So so it was an opportunity 0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:10.520 two get connected to that world and have insight into 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:13.879 what players were thinking and what they were going to 0:23:13.960 --> 0:23:19.919 do before they did it. Um. Tim wasn't a poet, 0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:24.480 uh and uh and he wasn't a comedian, so he 0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:29.919 didn't bring that style of writing to the magazine. But 0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:35.960 what he brought were facts, insight, uh, the real stuff 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:38.720 of what was happening. And that was the excitement of 0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:42.560 having Tim join our team. Well, Tim was dominating the 0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:46.240 annual byline count at Golf World a weekly and contributing 0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:50.040 to the occasional Story and Golf Digest a monthly. In 0:23:50.080 --> 0:23:52.720 the late nineties, he was covering the end of Nancy 0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:56.600 lopez incredible career. We grew up together. He wants me 0:23:56.680 --> 0:24:00.919 grow up on the LPG tour and uh, you know, 0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:03.760 he was one of those writers that made me who 0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:10.080 I am. Um. Wow. You know he was that friendly 0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:13.439 face in the room when you when you know, the 0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:15.680 press was all of you talking to and you could 0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:19.720 and you saw him. He just he just made me 0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:22.240 always feel happy. He had he had that face you 0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:24.000 know when you you know how people are when you 0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:25.600 see send me come in the room like, oh my god, 0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:28.080 there they come. And then you had that person that 0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:31.480 oh that's tim you know. That's the way he made 0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:35.399 me feel all the time. And he was just the best. 0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:38.280 And I just I will pray for him because I 0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:42.280 just hate this news. Um. But yeah, he was. He 0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:44.600 was specially he was good at what he was, great 0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:46.800 at what he did, not just good he um. I 0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:49.280 think all the players felt that way whenever he was 0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:53.240 around us, um and appreciate his talents and what he 0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:57.200 did for sports. Absolutely he was the best. I spoke 0:24:57.240 --> 0:25:00.080 to Bob Ford, the iconic pro at both open on 0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:04.119 and Seminole, who was Rosfort's close friend. Well, he was 0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:09.800 extraordinary and he uh, I think he he gained everybody's trust. 0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:13.359 Um that so that I mean his Rolo decks like 0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:16.560 hers would be phenomenal. And you know, when he needed 0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:18.880 to dig something out of the dirt, he dug it out. 0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:20.920 And when rose you saw Rosie on your phone, you 0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:23.600 wanted to talk to him. So and he had that 0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:28.520 relationship with you know, all the stars everybody, and so 0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:32.480 I think just trust and faith that we all had 0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:36.040 and Timmy was one of his great great assets. And 0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:40.280 not many players appreciate good writing, especially good reporting and 0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:44.240 the history of golf more than Ben Crenshaw. Going back 0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:49.720 all those years, Matt he was he was a bulldog 0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:54.680 for getting information. He was very very good at that. 0:25:55.680 --> 0:26:00.439 And uh but people respected him greatly. Uh. He was 0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:04.320 insider guy and he wanted to report that and he 0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:10.600 did it so well so many times. Um. But I know, 0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:14.919 as as a writer and a close observer of the 0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:17.639 professional golf scene, he was one of the best. I 0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:22.640 mean he you know, people knew to go to him 0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:27.680 to see what the players actually were thinking. They trusted him. 0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:31.400 Uh and and he could get the information quicker than 0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:35.760 other people could. Ron Sirac, who has ap roots and 0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:39.280 a similar dog and reporting style, offers his perspective on 0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:43.080 his former colleague at Golf World and Golf Digest. Baseball 0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.560 is one of my passions. Peter Damon's was the guy 0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:48.960 when I was when I was first starting out in journalism, 0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:52.600 as he was a guy who knew everything. Tim was 0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:56.080 the guy in golf who knew everything. Back to Jeff 0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:58.560 Russell again, who had become the editor in chief of 0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:00.960 Golf World magazine in two thousand and was writing the 0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:03.840 rose Board Train all the way to relevancy within the 0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:07.520 booming industry of golf. The moment when I realized, hey 0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:12.760 we are now, We're now as competitive a magazine as 0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:16.520 any other magazine. I mean, you know, listen, sports Philicide. 0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:19.800 You know, always be a fan of Sports Illustrated. You 0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:22.560 know what an amazing, amazing magazine it was, And and 0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:26.840 Golf Plus was was terrific um and and you know, 0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:29.440 you never there's never a week where you just felt like, 0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:31.119 oh my god, what are they gonna have this week? 0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:35.160 You know? But but I remember, and maybe you do too, 0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:40.280 when Tiger Woods was, you know, he was maybe two 0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:44.600 years into his his PGA Tour career, he turned pro, 0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:46.879 and he's been out there like two or three years, 0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:50.720 and he and he got into a he got into 0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:55.000 a showdown with with Tim Fincham in the PGA Tour 0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.359 where he was basic. I forget, I'd have to go 0:27:57.400 --> 0:28:00.479 and look, right, but he was. He was They wanted him, 0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:05.440 you know, they were holding him to the same requirements 0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:08.800 for you know, tournaments and tournament releases and all and 0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:12.159 all this stuff that any other player had, right and 0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:16.920 and and Tiger was Tiger was basically saying, look, I'm 0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:20.440 not I'm not going to do that. I if you're 0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:22.760 gonna hold me that I might go play the European 0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:27.160 Tour and we're I'll go find somewhere else to play. 0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:31.800 And and this was kind of percolating and Tiger decided, 0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:36.000 I don't know how this happened, but Tiger Tiger decided 0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.560 to tell Tim Roseford about it. That's where he went 0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:43.880 with with his story. And we got that story because 0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:48.960 of Tim Rosefort and whatever relationship he had with Tiger 0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:56.080 and and whatever whatever reputation Tim had with Tiger, and 0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.239 and it was. We put it on the cover and 0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:02.400 it was, you know, it was a blockbuster story at 0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:05.280 a time when a weekly magazine could still have a 0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:10.800 blockbuster story. And it got everyone's attention, and it got 0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:17.320 the PGA Tour's attention. And I remember thinking that week, like, man, 0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:22.080 people are talking about our magazine. Um, and the story 0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:25.280 that that we got and that was that was Tim 0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:28.440 and and and also John Hawkins. It was you know, 0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:31.120 um and that you know, that was a nice I 0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:34.200 think that was a nice collaboration for us and Golf 0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:37.000 Digest for for for four or five years, Tim and 0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:41.240 John working together. But but again it was you know, 0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:44.080 Tim was the big hitter on that thing, and and 0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:48.400 we were um and and and we benefited. It was 0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:53.320 It was huge inner stage. John Hawkins, another gritty colleague 0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:55.800 who was also operating at the height of his powers. 0:29:56.680 --> 0:30:01.080 With their chemistry came a brotherly bond at award winning work. 0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:05.040 Tim and I were both came from tough towns. I 0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:08.520 come from Baltimore, He came from Brewster, New York. We 0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:12.920 shared that um my dad passed away when I was young. 0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:18.000 Tim didn't have an easy life growing up. He worked 0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:22.480 on his dad's trash truck, as you know, and Tim 0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:25.719 had to work. We both shared that sort of us 0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:32.320 against the world mentality, blue collar kind of mindset, and 0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:36.200 we just we hit it off. I was, I was 0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:40.840 in all of him as a reporter. Still am. As 0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:44.960 I said on their phone call a few a couple 0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:49.040 of months back, Matt, nobody has had a more profound 0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:52.680 influence on my career than Tim Rose Afford Nobody. Yes, 0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:57.160 there was Rick Riley, Himie Diaz, Alan Schipnuk, Michael Bamberger, 0:30:57.240 --> 0:31:01.400 Tom Callahan. Jenkins was still Jenkins. I loved Dave Anderson 0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:03.880 and Dave Kindred. No one could write funny like Bob 0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:07.520 Verdie Garrity was always doing gearty, but when Hawk and 0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:12.080 Rosie would combine forces, the game's cage would rattle more 0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:16.880 from Heimie Diaz and Tim and John Hawkins had a 0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:20.840 great relationship. You know, Tim was the rock. John was 0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:26.320 the mercurial you know, I say, borderline genius in many 0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:31.200 ways because tremendous words, Smith, tremendous ability to turner phrase 0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:34.040 great writer, kind of like Woodward and Bernstein a little bit, 0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:36.440 you know, in in a golf Stanse wood Word was Tim, 0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:39.960 you know, the solid reporter who could could always you know, 0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:43.400 get anybody, and and John the guy that could coalesce 0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:48.959 it into something really readable. And those two guys they 0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:53.720 knew they had something and and they took on big projects. 0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:56.880 A lot of ambition in both those guys, and they 0:31:56.920 --> 0:32:00.200 would identify what was really important in golf because had 0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:03.640 very passionate views about this is the story. Man. You know, 0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:05.760 we gotta get this guy, we gotta get this issue 0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:08.520 out there, we gotta do it like nobody else. And 0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:11.880 then you know Tim might feel similarly, but probably not 0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:15.280 to the same extent. But then when he was directed, 0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:17.200 you know, this is what we need, this is what 0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:20.280 we gotta have. Nobody was better at getting it, so 0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:24.040 it was really formidable and they did. You know, I'm 0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:27.080 thinking five or six of those things that were oral 0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:32.520 histories or just simply highly reported pieces long, maybe even 0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:37.840 had more than one, you know, one installment, and very 0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:41.200 much probably well, I want to say the best work 0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:44.880 of their careers, because they did great work individually as well, 0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:47.200 but I think as a team that that's probably as 0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:50.720 good a team as golf riding has ever had. Long 0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:53.320 before the platform of podcast, there was such a thing 0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:57.200 as a quote oral history, but it was done in print. 0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:01.840 Hawk and Rosie right again chronic one of golf's greatest comebacks. 0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:05.440 I don't know whose idea it was um to do 0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:08.160 it in oral history. Back then, we were always looking 0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:11.840 to get into Golf Digests because we got paid extra 0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:15.840 for it, and because it was the magazine. As you know, Matt, 0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:19.040 Golf World was the magazine with a great reputation. But 0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:22.040 but but Golf Digest was the rock star. Golf Digest 0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:25.800 was the much bigger book, you know, three four pages 0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:29.240 some weeks some months back then, and you always wanted 0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:32.000 to get into that one. And we came up with 0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:34.080 this idea and we were just met with nothing but 0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:38.400 help from all the principles I think Tim got. And 0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:40.880 it's not like I didn't do any reporting. It just 0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:43.880 looked like I didn't. Compared to Tim, they kind of 0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:49.440 developed an interesting, you know, sort of an interesting format. 0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:52.000 They came up with a formula where where they would 0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:55.400 work together. They were at work together on big pieces, 0:33:55.680 --> 0:34:01.160 and the Tiger and the Tour story was one of them. 0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:07.760 The final day of the Ryder Cup, you know, was 0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:10.920 the was the big one that I remember they you 0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:13.560 know that that was that day of that incredible American 0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:18.200 comeback UM to win on the final day, and they 0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:24.440 spent um, you know, they spent months talking to every player, 0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:26.960 everybody who had, you know, had anything to do with 0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:32.520 with that UM, with that comeback. That was just like 0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:36.400 putting pieces of a puzzle together. That was fun. And 0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:38.279 he would just keep coming back with more and more 0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:41.040 material and I would just keep on finding spots for it. 0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:44.640 I think it was just one of those cases where 0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:50.320 two guys had a kind of a common background and 0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:57.399 perfect a perfect mesh of skills. It was too much 0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:01.600 good information to try to make a UM, to try 0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:04.279 to turn into a magazine article. I even think at 0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:08.040 one point they were, you know, they were talking to 0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:13.600 like a Hollywood producer about about making a movie about it, 0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:17.399 like maybe there were maybe a documentary film about it. 0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:22.400 I mean, but it doesn't get done without Tim's Tim's 0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:28.000 ability to report, Tim's dogged pursuit of information and his 0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:33.000 relationships with people to this day remains so powerful. It's 0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:36.719 why we're doing this, Matt, because so many people no 0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:43.080 Tim and love them. And and um that was I was. 0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:47.040 I was the prime beneficiary of Tim's greatest strengths for 0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:51.040 the better part of ten years. Regardless of the awards 0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:54.480 and out of boys recognition and respect, Tim never allowed 0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:57.040 himself to tap the brakes on his hustle and pursuit 0:35:57.080 --> 0:36:02.480 of perfection. No one was harder on Tim then Tim. 0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:04.760 A lot of people tried to convince him of his greatness, 0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:07.160 and that was the only time he turned his ears off. 0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:12.560 He loved coaching, he was allergic to accolades. Back to 0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:15.879 Jeff Russell, who again knew Tim for thirty five years 0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.320 and worked closely with him for twenty five of those. 0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:22.799 As Jeff notes, the only coaching he needed was to 0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:26.680 get out of his own way. Tim operated always operated 0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:31.600 from a sense of insecurity, you know, he he um, 0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:34.080 you know he could he could have he could have 0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:38.960 ninety nine great weeks in a row and and then 0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:41.120 have a week where he missed something, you know, or 0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:44.880 or maybe wrote a story that wasn't that that wasn't 0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:48.719 um you know, super polished and needed a little work, 0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:52.239 and then it was like man, it sent him into 0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:54.600 the Dolders. It was like he was starting all over 0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:57.120 and you had to remind him. You know. We used 0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:59.839 to say this, Hey, you know, I mean you're Tim 0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:02.359 sucking Roseford. That's all you needed to say to him. 0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:06.080 It's like you are, Tim, Stop stop worrying about it, 0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:08.720 you know, Um, let's get back at it this week. 0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:12.319 You know. But you know you're Tim we fucking Roseford. 0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:14.920 And and you're gonna hear that from Matt Haggerty too, 0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:17.040 you know, um, because he was that way when he 0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:19.640 got to the Golf channel. Pete McDaniel wrote for both 0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:22.680 Golf Digest and Golf World. Both Tim and Pete were 0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:26.080 always being asked to get something special on tiger Woods. 0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:29.160 He did some blocking for me as well, you know, 0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:34.320 quiet as its gift. Yeah, some opportunities that I got 0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:39.000 Tim recommended me. I don't know if I always succeeded 0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:41.360 at him. I probably let him down a few times. 0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:46.440 But I'm guilty of that too. He's this guy can 0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:47.880 do it, he can alest you know, you need to 0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:51.400 give him an opportunity, and I got opportunities. So but 0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:55.520 Tim's wanted to get greatest guys. Um, if you had 0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:58.919 Tim on your team, you had a good teammate. I'll 0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:02.400 just put it that way. Um, funny guy and I 0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:06.879 played a lot of rounds ago off together. Really meticulous 0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:09.680 kind of guy. And the thing that made him such 0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:14.040 a success he worked. It was alreayst working man in golf. 0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:17.680 And without a doubt, I couldn't have no way that 0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:20.040 anybody could could out work And he was not going 0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:24.440 to need to do it prepared, you know, to the end, 0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:27.719 dog gone degree. If there was anything he didn't know, 0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:31.520 he was really gonna find out, had more context than 0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:35.680 anybody in the game. And and that was Tim Roseford. 0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:41.720 I mean, talented and personable and um and a real friend. 0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:45.600 And in our business you could probably count your real 0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:49.400 friends on one hand. And Tim was certainly a real friend, 0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:52.560 no doubt about it. Back to Jeff Russell, who was 0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:55.720 continuing to lean on Rosaford as a captain of the squad. 0:38:56.080 --> 0:39:00.400 I think Tim always had a really underrated talent for 0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:05.839 um knowing, knowing what's a good story, what's maybe not 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.520 a good story, knowing what the what the angle is, 0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:11.839 what the angle should be, and what the angles shouldn't be. 0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:16.080 UM And I think he you know, he was he 0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:19.000 was a good sounding board for me as the editor 0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:21.640 when when I wasn't when I was trying to figure 0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:23.279 out a lot, you know, I reached a point where 0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:27.319 I wasn't always at the major championships on the on 0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:29.480 the weekend, I would need to come home, you know, 0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:32.400 go back to the office and kind of you know, 0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:35.960 run things from the office. And and Tim became my 0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:39.840 kind of my my boots on the ground at the 0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:43.160 tournament and trying to help me understand what was going 0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:46.120 on and and and what the stories were and what 0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:50.760 they should be. UM. He was very He had a 0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:52.839 kind of a good you know, you'd say he has 0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:54.799 an ear for music. You know, he had kind of 0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:58.799 a good ear for a good sense of what what 0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:02.719 the angle should be. More from dis I remember after 0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:07.440 nine eleven that the amount of time and work and 0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:11.360 chronicling he did with Jimmy Dunn was like incredibly you know, 0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:16.920 uh just just you know, it was it was a 0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:21.319 book length stuff almost And of course Bill Fields was 0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:24.360 was was writing the story. And you know it was 0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:27.759 overwhelming Bill, because Bill was a great researcher too. But 0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:29.439 I mean that's the kind of thing when Tim got 0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:32.840 his teeth into something, he really, um, you know, that 0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:35.319 was his identity. Then he was going to prove that 0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:38.400 to himself and to others, that that he could do it, 0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:40.520 that he belonged, that he could not and that he 0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:43.760 could be the best. And uh, I think it really 0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:48.960 um was was really a passionate after a while that 0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:51.279 he found his niche that he loved this. I mean 0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:53.279 he hadn't grown up with golf. He hadn't even grown 0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:56.600 up with sports writing, but he had found something that 0:40:56.640 --> 0:41:01.640 he loved to do um and could be good at 0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:05.040 because through force of will, but also he had the 0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:08.279 head for it. He knew sports, so golf fell right 0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:11.880 in there with sports. That was the mentality brought to sports. 0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:15.520 And and he was a good storyteller and any any 0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:17.759 any knew good stories. He had good news sense. He 0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:20.840 had an idea of how to present something. So it 0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:25.040 was interesting John Hawkins, I think a spike gate with 0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:29.840 v J and Mickelson having a J having a problem 0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:34.080 with Phil with the length of phil spikes, like you know, 0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:37.200 there are usually a one millimeter long and these were 0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:41.040 two millimeters or a millimeter and a half, and it's 0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:45.360 like turn into this big deal. So that was probably 0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:49.879 uh oh five because I was in the Champions locker 0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:53.200 room with them. Um, I don't remember him telling the story. 0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:57.799 I just remember that he uh, he wasn't trying to 0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:02.360 attack anybody. He was just I had to share insight 0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:05.600 into what was going onto the game of golf and 0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:10.080 and do it in a way that was interesting, compelling, 0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:13.160 but uplifting to everybody around him. Tim came back and 0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:15.520 said they almost came to blows in the locker room 0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:18.920 and there was a pretty heated argument and people had 0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:22.840 to get up and separate them and the force Michelson 0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:28.040 to release the statement. And Tim had that kind of 0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:31.360 impact on a regular basis. That was one of the 0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:34.240 more famous ones, one of the ones that I remember, 0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:38.400 But if you went back you could see many instances 0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:44.560 where Tim Tim's reporting had a had a pretty powerful 0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:46.880 impact on the on the on the picture. In general, 0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:51.600 I was never sure what drove Tim's bus the insecurity 0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:55.080 or was it just a sincere humility, you know, like 0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:57.200 he's like Barry Sanders, right. I mean, if you scored 0:42:57.239 --> 0:42:59.279 a touchdown, he handed the football back to the ref 0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:02.000 because that's his job, that's what he does. It wasn't 0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:04.480 about fanfare, it wasn't about to sell. He had no 0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:07.800 celebration dance in the end zone that Tim never danced 0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:09.760 in the end zone in his life. Tim ran around 0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:13.560 the basis with his head down every single time. Nobody 0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:16.160 ever wanted to throw a beanball at Tim rose Afford. 0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:18.560 Well you don't want that big ass guy coming out 0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:21.600 to the mountain and kicking your ass in front of everybody. 0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:25.680 But Tim was was. It was a lot bit. It 0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:28.920 was a lot bigger than Tim's physical stature. It was 0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:33.920 his his ability to generate trust and his ability to 0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:39.960 his his is absolute uh insistence on getting it right 0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:42.560 all the time. Tim didn't want a bad eight hundred. 0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:45.839 A lot of sports analogies here, but Tim. Tim wanted 0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:50.040 to get it right all the time, and and he did. 0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:55.319 He really did, he very very rarely. He I don't 0:43:55.360 --> 0:44:00.719 ever recall him making a mistake that was can sequential 0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:04.560 to the meaning of a story, or the just just 0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:11.560 never happened. Facts always travel. Tim's saturated rolodex, impeccable reputation, 0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:15.040 and incredible consistency had earned him a more prominent role 0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:20.000 on an alternate platform. Tim was taking on TV, and 0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:23.279 although he was getting criticized by Golf World teammates with 0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:26.239 guys like Hawkins who didn't like their starting running back 0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:31.200 splitting time playing center field in another sport, Tim ignored 0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:35.600 those murmurs. They definitely didn't deterine. It was all just 0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:38.600 more motivation to be an all star at both print 0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:42.880 and broadcast. If walls were going to fall and writers 0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:46.040 were evolving into on their talent, who better to smash 0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:50.880 those walls then Golf's Bo Jackson. Back to Molly Solomon, 0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:54.359 who has spent her entire career in TV. I think 0:44:54.400 --> 0:44:57.080 people forget the bigger picture with Tim, like we're all 0:44:57.120 --> 0:45:00.840 in the you know, the golf industry. But Tim was 0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:05.480 the first, really one of the first sports television insiders, 0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:08.960 you know. I remember Will McDonough in the early nineties 0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:12.240 and he started to bring these reporters that came into 0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:15.520 television and gave you so much great reporting and information 0:45:15.920 --> 0:45:19.120 and really kind of fleshed out the stories. And Tim 0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:21.839 very much brought that to golf. So it was really 0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:24.200 being done a little bit in football, but he brought 0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:27.240 it to golf. So it was his reporting and his 0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:29.799 his rolodex or his cell phone, which, as you know, 0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:33.080 he always had two cell phones, but he had everybody's number, 0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:37.560 and everybody respected him and everybody returned a phone call um. 0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:40.440 And that was because of his personality and the trust 0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:43.799 that he created with people. Like you knew that if 0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:47.440 you told Tim something that he wasn't going to misuse 0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:50.080 it or abuse it. He was going to use it 0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:52.520 to flesh out stories. But he would never embarrass you, 0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:56.280 hurt you. He'd give you a sense that something was coming. 0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:58.800 Like people trusted him when they talked to him, and 0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:02.080 that made a difference. I remember when he started doing TV, 0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:05.600 uh and he you know, really started to raise his 0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:08.480 profile at Golf Channel. He was still working for us. 0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:11.080 He would, you know, he would do TV. You know 0:46:11.120 --> 0:46:14.360 you could sense that he he he was he was 0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:17.480 doing a lot of TV and his profile, you know, 0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:20.720 he was getting famous and he was really becoming pretty 0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:25.719 well known and and he went to great pains to 0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:32.920 make sure that I could never accuse him of, you know, 0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:37.439 neglecting his magazine work in order to do TV work. 0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:40.680 It's like it's like as the better he got it TV, 0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:43.880 and the bigger he got it TV, the more the 0:46:43.960 --> 0:46:48.480 more he tried to contribute and do work for the magazine. 0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:51.920 And I remember talking to him one time, was before 0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:53.680 I went to the Golf Channel. So I was still 0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:56.040 at Golf World, and we were on a bus somewhere, 0:46:56.640 --> 0:46:59.880 you know, some major writing from a parking lot to 0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:02.640 the media center. And I and he had on you know, 0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:05.680 yacht on his suit and tie and and he was gonna, 0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:07.799 you know, he was gonna write. He was gonna do 0:47:07.920 --> 0:47:11.160 TV and then he was gonna write a story overnight, 0:47:11.200 --> 0:47:14.160 and then he was gonna fly back to you know, 0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:18.040 back to to Orlando to do you know, Monday TV. 0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:20.279 And I said, Tim, you know, you don't what are 0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:23.240 you doing? Like, you don't need to work this hard. 0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:26.640 You're gonna you know, you're gonna, you know, you're gonna 0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:29.880 run your batteries down. You're gonna kill yourself. And and 0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:31.520 and I want you, I said, I want you to 0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:34.640 know I appreciate everything that you've done for Golf World 0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:38.600 and and and and how important you are to the 0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:41.840 magazine and everything you can, but you don't. If you 0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:44.920 all you have to do is tell me I can't 0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:47.319 do the writing anymore. I just want to do the 0:47:47.360 --> 0:47:50.799 TV and I will understand no hard feelings. And he 0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:54.120 looked at me like I had three heads, you know. 0:47:54.680 --> 0:48:04.400 Um so I never you know, I never had. I 0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:06.440 mean had a lot of people that worked for me 0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:10.680 as you know that that were hard to manage and 0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:15.040 tricky to manage, and you had to find ways to 0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:20.200 motivate them. Um Tim was Tim was never that guy, 0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:24.440 not not one, not one single day. You know. The 0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:27.799 only the only time you ever had to give Tim 0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:33.759 a pep talk was when he when he occasionally felt, um, 0:48:33.800 --> 0:48:39.600 you know, like he wasn't good enough, which which is 0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:43.160 which is lappable. It sounds it's silly, you know, it's 0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:48.080 really silly. But but that's where he that's where that 0:48:48.239 --> 0:48:51.880 incredible energy and in his incredible output, that's where it 0:48:51.920 --> 0:48:55.680 all came from. Was just trying to always trying to 0:48:55.719 --> 0:49:00.120 prove himself. Meanwhile, Gary Williams, one of the original hosts 0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:02.960 of Golf Channel's Morning Drive, was one of many who 0:49:03.000 --> 0:49:09.080 benefited from Tim's lead blocking. Williams made a successful break 0:49:09.239 --> 0:49:12.640 from radio to TV. I love television, and I love 0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:16.680 sports television, and I love the history of people who 0:49:16.760 --> 0:49:21.200 blaze trails for others, and Tim is is in a 0:49:21.360 --> 0:49:25.520 category that I think is very particular and very special. 0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:30.520 I consider will McDonough that the grandfather of information men 0:49:30.960 --> 0:49:33.560 who took the printed word and put it in the 0:49:33.640 --> 0:49:38.319 visual medium. And then Peter Gammon's did the same thing 0:49:38.400 --> 0:49:42.800 in baseball, and coincidentally, from the same newspaper, the Boston Globe, 0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:48.080 Peter Vessey started doing it in basketball. Tim Roosevefort was 0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:52.400 Golf's version of the insider and the one who took 0:49:52.520 --> 0:49:55.759 the print journalism man and put him in front of 0:49:55.760 --> 0:50:00.319 a camera and he just opened up that notebook. Here's 0:50:00.360 --> 0:50:04.480 Phil Nicholson on Tim's transition. Yeah. So Tim rosy Fort 0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:06.680 really was the first to kind of transition with the 0:50:06.760 --> 0:50:09.440 times and with the media, going from print and then 0:50:09.480 --> 0:50:11.920 moving into video and television. And he did such a 0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:14.839 great job. He lost a lot of weight, he got 0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:18.839 physically fit, He had a unique look when he went 0:50:19.160 --> 0:50:22.520 to the shaved head uh and he just uh. He 0:50:22.600 --> 0:50:25.759 was a very attractive guy. He looked twenty years younger 0:50:25.800 --> 0:50:27.839 than his actual age. I can't believe he's sixty six. 0:50:27.840 --> 0:50:31.440 He looks forty five even even the last time I 0:50:31.440 --> 0:50:35.279 saw him. And he was able to articulate as well 0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:37.839 as he could write. He was able to inflect and 0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:41.720 keep you interesting. Will also uh getting the point across. 0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:43.480 It's not easy to do. Some people are great with 0:50:43.520 --> 0:50:46.640 the written words and people are great verbalizing things. And 0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:50.720 he was great doing both. And he really transcended into 0:50:50.760 --> 0:50:53.520 the video world and was the first to do it, 0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:55.200 and a lot of people followed what he was able 0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:56.879 to do it. I don't know if anybody followed quite 0:50:56.880 --> 0:50:59.279 as well or eloquently as he did, but he was. 0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:03.840 He was brilliant in being able to transition his career 0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:08.439 as as social media. Different media's came into play back 0:51:08.480 --> 0:51:11.319 to Heimie Diaz, who stayed pure print and internet a 0:51:11.320 --> 0:51:15.040 little longer than most great reporters and writers, mainly because 0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:17.360 he had a position at Golf Digest in Golf World 0:51:17.560 --> 0:51:23.239 that afforded him less urgency to diversify his platform portfolio. Yeah, 0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:25.760 Tim was a reporter, but he wasn't just a reporter. 0:51:25.840 --> 0:51:28.480 He had a look, he had a delivery. He had 0:51:28.480 --> 0:51:32.240 a presence on the air. He cultivated it, uh in 0:51:32.000 --> 0:51:34.920 a in a very professional way with his look and 0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:39.680 stayed in shape. He looked good. Um. He always wanted 0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:42.600 to learn and get better. He also studied what his 0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:46.200 niche should be and that's really, I think so important 0:51:46.200 --> 0:51:50.480 in television because it's so collaborative and it's such a um, 0:51:50.520 --> 0:51:54.920 you know, kind of a positional specialization that that is 0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:58.440 demanded sometimes and he had that, you know. He he 0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:02.000 was the guy that could get anybody UM on deadline 0:52:02.280 --> 0:52:04.759 with the phone number, with the guy calling him back 0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:09.640 with the you know, UM, the access to UM a 0:52:09.719 --> 0:52:12.919 particular player that may not talk to anybody else. Those 0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:15.200 were really important things in print and in TV. But 0:52:15.239 --> 0:52:18.320 they really suited TV in a unique way because nobody 0:52:18.360 --> 0:52:21.000 else had that, and to be honest, no one else 0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:26.160 since really has to the same extent. And uh, you know, 0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:30.520 he liked he liked just presenting. I talked to this guy, 0:52:30.920 --> 0:52:34.080 I got him, here's what he said, and leaving it 0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:36.040 at that. He didn't need to offer his opinion, he 0:52:36.040 --> 0:52:37.920 didn't need to interpret it. He just wanted to put 0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:39.839 it out there for the other guys on the desk. 0:52:39.920 --> 0:52:42.239 To talk about it, and so it was all very 0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:47.480 clean and we're beautifully and you know, there was never 0:52:47.600 --> 0:52:50.040 enough of that. I mean, as far as the Golf 0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:53.439 Channel was concerned, it was like, hey, Roosevelt could get him, 0:52:53.480 --> 0:52:56.160 you know, and we we saw the starting with President 0:52:56.160 --> 0:52:59.160 Obama all the way down, you know, people that nobody 0:52:59.200 --> 0:53:05.080 else could get. Uh And so you know, yes he 0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:09.040 broke he broke a barrier, but in his own way, 0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:11.440 in a way that has has not been equaled in 0:53:11.520 --> 0:53:16.240 terms of that um, that particular specialty. I would imagine 0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:19.400 you build lineups around guys like that, right, you do. 0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:22.120 He's like a part of the starting lineup. And that 0:53:22.160 --> 0:53:25.799 gets me excited because I can think about alive from 0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:28.960 a major championship desk and you've got someone like a 0:53:29.040 --> 0:53:32.319 Rich Learner, the anchor, the quarterback, and you've got a 0:53:32.400 --> 0:53:36.560 Brandle Shamblee who's analyzing, and then you wanted Tim on 0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:39.799 that desk because Tim was going to tell you everything 0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:42.600 you needed to know about the players. Brandle was going 0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:45.120 to analyze, but Tim was going to tell you about 0:53:45.160 --> 0:53:48.360 the person and that was equally as important. I remember 0:53:48.400 --> 0:53:51.800 when I first got too Golf Channel in I moved 0:53:52.600 --> 0:53:56.120 Tim into the Sunday night golf centrals because you wanted 0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:58.759 to know who the guy was or the woman was, 0:53:58.800 --> 0:54:02.200 who life who's life changed that day walking up the 0:54:02.400 --> 0:54:06.080 team fairway and winning a PGA Tour and LPG Tour 0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:09.160 title for the first time. And you knew, right Matt 0:54:09.280 --> 0:54:11.760 he could get anybody on the phone and he would 0:54:11.800 --> 0:54:14.400 find out where they went to high school, what sport 0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:17.919 they played, and what car they drove their first car 0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:21.759 like he always fleshed out a story and made it entertaining. 0:54:22.480 --> 0:54:26.640 Safe to say, Mark Mulvoy, who after retiring from Sports Illustrated, 0:54:26.800 --> 0:54:29.840 has not stopped playing and watching a lot of golf, 0:54:30.040 --> 0:54:33.480 will always be one of Rosafort's biggest fans. What I 0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:36.719 used to love. You know, you'd be watching on when 0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:39.120 Timmy was I guess it was NBC he was doing, 0:54:39.440 --> 0:54:41.880 was an NBC. He'd be doing the NBC thing, and 0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:43.960 all of a sudden it be some guy that nobody 0:54:44.000 --> 0:54:49.120 ever heard of, you know, Charlie Slumbakavitz from South Peoria Falls, Idaho. 0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:51.759 Suddenly he'd be within four shots of the lead, and 0:54:51.760 --> 0:54:54.080 they said, oh my gosh, this is slumback of its 0:54:54.080 --> 0:54:56.160 four shots within the lead. Tim what do you know 0:54:56.239 --> 0:54:58.400 about him. Tibby would tell you that when he was 0:54:58.440 --> 0:55:00.239 a little league third base, when he had a home 0:55:00.360 --> 0:55:03.920 run against the future Major League picture picture that he dated, 0:55:04.000 --> 0:55:06.319 he took his date to the senior prom was this 0:55:06.480 --> 0:55:08.560 he hit that? I mean, you knew more about this 0:55:08.640 --> 0:55:10.960 kid than anybody in the world. Of course, maybe the 0:55:11.000 --> 0:55:13.360 kid the next day shot eighty four. But the point 0:55:13.400 --> 0:55:17.520 is Timmy provided instant information. But he knew what he 0:55:17.560 --> 0:55:19.680 was talking about. It wasn't something off the top of 0:55:19.680 --> 0:55:22.520 his head. I mean he was missed a fact toy 0:55:22.920 --> 0:55:25.759 for the networks, which is what I really wanted it 0:55:25.920 --> 0:55:28.920 to be. For Sports Illustrated. Well, Gary Williams is the 0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:34.080 king of recall. He respected Rosafford's rolodex. He always has 0:55:34.080 --> 0:55:37.239 been so unassuming about all the things that he's accomplished 0:55:37.239 --> 0:55:40.279 in his career that he never liked hearing this, But 0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:44.399 it's the truth. There's nobody else walking earth who has 0:55:44.680 --> 0:55:49.040 every phone number of every living number of the World 0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:51.839 Golf Hall of Fame. I think he's the only one, 0:55:52.480 --> 0:55:55.600 and he's the only one Matt that if he calls 0:55:55.800 --> 0:55:58.719 or texts that they're all calling him back. Now there's 0:55:58.760 --> 0:56:00.680 a there's a handful of guys and every Hall of 0:56:00.680 --> 0:56:04.560 Fame members like, I'm not calling him back, but Rosie, 0:56:05.040 --> 0:56:10.000 are you kidding me? The king of the callbacks, Why 0:56:10.160 --> 0:56:12.520 you being on the other side and one of the 0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:15.640 most prominent players in modern golf, why would you called 0:56:15.719 --> 0:56:19.160 him back? So I would always called him back because 0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:21.040 he would fact checked and he would want to know 0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:23.799 the truth, and you would when you when you told 0:56:23.840 --> 0:56:26.239 ask some things to be looked this as sensitive, I 0:56:26.239 --> 0:56:27.680 don't really want to be on the record about this. 0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:30.719 He would respect that, and he wasn't trying to tear 0:56:30.719 --> 0:56:34.080 anybody down. He would present the facts based on his knowledge. 0:56:34.080 --> 0:56:37.000 And because people trusted him, they were more open with 0:56:37.080 --> 0:56:39.520 them and they and that's why he was so great 0:56:39.560 --> 0:56:41.240 at what he did as far as being an inside 0:56:41.239 --> 0:56:43.800 of me gave a golf because he earned players trust. 0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:46.239 He earned people's trust in the golf business and was 0:56:46.320 --> 0:56:49.239 able to uh to gather knowledge and insight because of that. 0:56:49.600 --> 0:56:53.040 And he he handled it with as he would present 0:56:53.080 --> 0:56:56.160 it to the public. He handled it delicately that such 0:56:56.440 --> 0:56:59.080 in situations that could be a little bit sticky, he 0:56:59.120 --> 0:57:03.120 always had a real classy way of presenting it. Lanny 0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:06.520 Watkins always called Tim back as a player, you ended 0:57:06.600 --> 0:57:11.440 up with writers you could trust, you know, if you will, Okay, 0:57:11.680 --> 0:57:14.920 Tim Rosefort was always one I could trust. I mean, 0:57:15.000 --> 0:57:17.760 I get a kick out of telling people about Jeff Rude. 0:57:17.800 --> 0:57:20.800 That know, Jeff Rude. You know Jeff Rude. Rude was 0:57:20.920 --> 0:57:23.560 the Dallas Morning News golf Friday when I was rather 0:57:23.720 --> 0:57:27.760 kept captain, and Rude warmed me out. Wanted my captain's picks. 0:57:28.080 --> 0:57:31.360 I mean, he had to have these picks before I 0:57:31.440 --> 0:57:34.080 announced him the morning answer the PJ because he wanted 0:57:34.080 --> 0:57:36.240 to have in the paper. He gave me such a 0:57:36.240 --> 0:57:38.320 hard time about it. I gave him the wrong names 0:57:41.760 --> 0:57:44.800 he had. Rude would love that. I mean, I mean 0:57:45.000 --> 0:57:49.560 Rosefort does that. I Tim would call me about things 0:57:49.600 --> 0:57:51.920 and he and I would talk. I would be the 0:57:52.000 --> 0:57:54.480 off the record guy, if you will, for Tim on 0:57:54.520 --> 0:57:57.840 a lot of things. He would ask me questions. I said, Timmy, no, 0:57:57.960 --> 0:57:59.920 I really can't have my name out there about that. 0:58:00.160 --> 0:58:02.880 But if you here's the deal, here's the school, here's 0:58:02.880 --> 0:58:06.000 what happened. Back to Russell on the subject of Ryder 0:58:06.040 --> 0:58:08.200 Cup captains, you know what a big deal it is 0:58:08.240 --> 0:58:11.240 when the PGA of America decides who the next rider 0:58:11.320 --> 0:58:14.680 Cup captain is going to be you know, that's that's 0:58:14.720 --> 0:58:16.720 like a big story to them. It's a big story 0:58:16.720 --> 0:58:18.960 in golf. It may it may seem like well it 0:58:19.160 --> 0:58:21.520 you know, after a couple of days, it's maybe not 0:58:21.640 --> 0:58:24.320 such a big story. That was a big story. And 0:58:25.520 --> 0:58:28.280 three or four years and three or four times in 0:58:28.280 --> 0:58:32.680 a row, Tim figured out. Tim got the name of 0:58:32.720 --> 0:58:37.439 the Ryder Cup captain before before anybody else. I think 0:58:37.800 --> 0:58:39.720 at least one of you know that Tom wat When 0:58:39.760 --> 0:58:43.360 when when Tom Watson became the captain before Glenn Eagles. 0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:45.640 Tim was the guy who got that story. And that 0:58:45.720 --> 0:58:49.400 was the most remarkable one because nobody saw Tom Watson coming, 0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:53.320 you know, nobody saw Ted Bishop was gonna was gonna 0:58:53.480 --> 0:58:57.120 pick Tom Watson. And and I remember we were at 0:58:57.120 --> 0:59:00.560 the Golf Channel then and Tim came to me and said, 0:59:00.880 --> 0:59:04.480 you know, told me that he had And I was like, Tim, 0:59:04.640 --> 0:59:06.360 what are you talking to? Like I think you're wrong, 0:59:06.560 --> 0:59:08.560 you know, I told me, I don't know, it's gonna 0:59:08.560 --> 0:59:13.240 be Tom Watson, right, And he was right. And but 0:59:13.280 --> 0:59:15.960 the but the thing I'll never forget is that he 0:59:16.120 --> 0:59:21.560 became he really became a a thorn in the side 0:59:21.560 --> 0:59:24.080 of the PGA of America. The PGA of America loved 0:59:24.560 --> 0:59:27.680 Tim Roseford. You know. They they were in West Palm. 0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:29.760 Tim lived in West Palm and it was like a 0:59:29.800 --> 0:59:34.480 hometown thing. But man, they wanted to keep that secret 0:59:35.280 --> 0:59:38.720 until they could, you know, introduce the captain themselves. You know, 0:59:38.760 --> 0:59:42.120 they themselves like they wanted that's something they wanted to do. 0:59:42.600 --> 0:59:47.840 And Tim kept finding out and breaking the story, and 0:59:47.840 --> 0:59:51.680 and they and and they would get like, you know, 0:59:51.720 --> 0:59:54.880 they would get so angry and upset about it, and 0:59:54.880 --> 0:59:57.520 and there's just nothing they could do. He was he 0:59:57.600 --> 1:00:01.560 was too good a report and had you know, his 1:00:01.640 --> 1:00:08.640 sources were too impeccable. Um that you know, we had 1:00:08.640 --> 1:00:12.800 to we had to talk about something else. Act they 1:00:12.800 --> 1:00:17.040 would just get Uh. Here's Matt Haggerty of The Golf 1:00:17.120 --> 1:00:19.280 Channel for more on Tim's impact on the types of 1:00:19.320 --> 1:00:22.280 breaking news that went from the Ticker to Twitter and 1:00:22.400 --> 1:00:24.920 vice versa. The one that always sticks out to me 1:00:25.120 --> 1:00:27.920 was Dustin Johnson and the Masters when he when he 1:00:27.960 --> 1:00:32.480 fell down the steps. You know, Um, you know Tim was, 1:00:32.760 --> 1:00:35.040 you know, we were, you know, we were on the air. 1:00:35.280 --> 1:00:39.040 It was I think we were. I think we were. 1:00:39.200 --> 1:00:41.280 It was weather that day and we were trying to 1:00:41.360 --> 1:00:45.160 tape the show, so we were like in this tape mode, 1:00:45.320 --> 1:00:47.400 so we were just trying to get the show to air. 1:00:48.120 --> 1:00:54.120 And then all of a sudden Tim calls and he says, hey, 1:00:55.000 --> 1:00:57.880 Dustin Johnson just fell down a flight of steps and 1:00:58.000 --> 1:01:00.000 it's questionable whether he's going to be able to play 1:01:00.320 --> 1:01:03.280 the Masters. And then the next thing, you know, Tim 1:01:03.600 --> 1:01:07.240 was on the phone with all these different people, you know, 1:01:08.280 --> 1:01:13.200 whether it was Claude Harmon or Butch Harmon or David Winkle, 1:01:13.400 --> 1:01:15.640 whoever it was, you know, all these people on the 1:01:15.640 --> 1:01:20.640 inner circle of Dustin Johnson and um. And it was 1:01:20.680 --> 1:01:22.920 a big story because Dustin was, you know favorite, I 1:01:22.920 --> 1:01:24.680 mean he was he was number one player in world. 1:01:24.680 --> 1:01:26.200 He was favored to win the Masters. I mean it 1:01:26.280 --> 1:01:30.600 was huge, and he just it was a really big 1:01:30.640 --> 1:01:33.600 story and he covered it and he had it all 1:01:34.040 --> 1:01:39.200 and it was there was and then he delivers it perfectly, 1:01:39.520 --> 1:01:42.240 you know, on air, and it all happened like boom boom, 1:01:42.280 --> 1:01:48.160 boom boom. It all happened really fast, and we wouldn't 1:01:48.160 --> 1:01:51.160 have had that Golf Channel wouldn't have been as good 1:01:51.200 --> 1:01:53.960 that day. If we didn't have Tim roaster Ford, we 1:01:53.960 --> 1:01:57.360 wouldn't have been good and we were great that night 1:01:57.400 --> 1:02:00.720 because we had Tim. So that's the difference cut to 1:02:02.280 --> 1:02:04.280 I'll never forget the day I noticed that there might 1:02:04.280 --> 1:02:07.360 be an issue. We were on set together at Morning 1:02:07.400 --> 1:02:10.800 Drive and we did a segment with Damon Hack. Although 1:02:10.840 --> 1:02:14.320 I've been victim of and witnessed to several glitches in memory, 1:02:15.000 --> 1:02:17.919 especially when it comes to live TV, but I saw 1:02:18.000 --> 1:02:23.000 that day in from Tim was something different. Something wasn't right. 1:02:24.600 --> 1:02:27.800 As we all emptied into the hallway outside of Studio AP, 1:02:28.480 --> 1:02:31.000 I asked the Arna Palmer of our industry if he 1:02:31.040 --> 1:02:35.520 felt okay. He said he did. Damon Hack and e 1:02:35.680 --> 1:02:39.280 Sidebard about what we had seen. We were both concerned 1:02:39.840 --> 1:02:42.400 but not sure what to do about it. As the 1:02:42.440 --> 1:02:47.080 story goes, he was at Pebble for the US Open 1:02:47.480 --> 1:02:51.000 and things were just so far off and disoriented that 1:02:51.320 --> 1:02:55.280 Jeff Russell called Genevieve and said, we've got to send 1:02:55.480 --> 1:02:59.280 Tim home. It's just we were really concerned about him, 1:02:59.320 --> 1:03:03.440 and was the point basically when his career as he 1:03:03.560 --> 1:03:07.000 knew it came to a close. That week at Pebble, 1:03:07.320 --> 1:03:11.200 Tim forgot Webb Simpson had won the US Open. He 1:03:11.280 --> 1:03:15.000 forgot the U s g A changed their playoff policy, 1:03:15.320 --> 1:03:18.280 and when asked to chase down some information on Nate Lashley, 1:03:18.680 --> 1:03:21.040 who was finishing in early round near the top of 1:03:21.040 --> 1:03:24.280 the leaderboard, Tim burst into the scores tend in search 1:03:24.320 --> 1:03:29.000 of an interview. Tim, of all people, knew the Scorers 1:03:29.040 --> 1:03:32.240 trailer is off limits to the media. Matt Haggerty with 1:03:32.320 --> 1:03:35.880 his perspective, it's almost like, why didn't we say something sooner? 1:03:38.480 --> 1:03:41.160 You know, like, but there was so much. You know, 1:03:41.240 --> 1:03:44.560 Television is such a television is such a fucked up 1:03:45.320 --> 1:03:49.320 world at times, you know, and you don't and you 1:03:49.520 --> 1:03:52.200 and and and it it can be there can be 1:03:52.280 --> 1:03:56.680 tons of insecurity in it. There's tons of pressure involved 1:03:56.720 --> 1:04:01.800 in it. And I think at for a long time 1:04:01.880 --> 1:04:04.080 we just thought that, you know, this is part of 1:04:04.080 --> 1:04:08.440 the business. You know, it's stressful. You know, you're looking 1:04:08.480 --> 1:04:13.400 over your shoulder and there's you know, and there's pressure 1:04:13.600 --> 1:04:15.840 to get things and get things right and get things 1:04:15.920 --> 1:04:18.880 right on time and quick and fast. You know, like 1:04:18.920 --> 1:04:23.080 there's so much and I think that so much of 1:04:23.080 --> 1:04:27.800 of some of the early signs we saw, we just thought, well, 1:04:27.800 --> 1:04:30.760 that's the pressure. And once, you know, like once we 1:04:30.840 --> 1:04:34.320 get through this, you know it's gonna get better and 1:04:34.360 --> 1:04:36.840 once we get through this, it'll get better. And then 1:04:36.880 --> 1:04:40.760 it it didn't, and it manifested itself in a lot 1:04:40.840 --> 1:04:43.360 of different ways, like asking the same question a couple 1:04:43.360 --> 1:04:46.600 of different times, and then you're like, why is he 1:04:46.640 --> 1:04:50.000 asking that question? Is he asking me that question because 1:04:50.000 --> 1:04:52.360 he wants to make sure he gets it right? Or 1:04:52.440 --> 1:04:59.280 is he forget it? And there's a fine line because 1:04:59.280 --> 1:05:01.520 some people ask questions because they want to make sure 1:05:01.520 --> 1:05:05.040 they they've got it right right, And you're always telling people, 1:05:05.080 --> 1:05:07.680 if you've got any questions, make sure you ask right, 1:05:07.800 --> 1:05:11.440 Like if you got any if she asked, so he's asking, 1:05:11.960 --> 1:05:16.480 and so you walk away. I get answered that question 1:05:16.520 --> 1:05:19.800 a few times. Was he just trying to get rock 1:05:19.880 --> 1:05:25.520 solid on that m again, that was a sign more 1:05:25.600 --> 1:05:29.320 from Himie dis When I heard about Tim's diagnosis for Alzheimer's, 1:05:29.320 --> 1:05:31.840 I mean, it was a terrible shock, and it was 1:05:31.880 --> 1:05:39.720 the worst case scenario, obviously, because there was concerned that 1:05:39.720 --> 1:05:42.880 that Tim in some ways was losing some cognitive skills 1:05:43.600 --> 1:05:47.760 um for whatever reason. And uh it had been going 1:05:47.800 --> 1:05:52.360 on gradually for about a year. UM it certainly wasn't 1:05:52.360 --> 1:05:57.080 to the point where he was unpresentable on TV. He 1:05:57.200 --> 1:06:01.080 was you know, masking it. Well, it was bothering him 1:06:01.840 --> 1:06:03.840 that he was starting to forget a little bit more. 1:06:05.000 --> 1:06:08.160 He went to get checked out. Um, he was told 1:06:08.200 --> 1:06:11.640 it was anxiety. Um. You know, we were all concerned. 1:06:11.680 --> 1:06:14.160 We knew he played football. You know, you wondered, CTE, 1:06:14.200 --> 1:06:20.680 could there be some kind of progressive problem physiologically and UM, 1:06:20.720 --> 1:06:25.640 but I didn't. UM, I didn't really consider Alzheimer's because 1:06:25.680 --> 1:06:32.600 that just seems as if, um, it's it's more uh, well, 1:06:32.600 --> 1:06:37.280 obviously it's just more grave. And I guess I didn't 1:06:37.280 --> 1:06:40.920 want to let myself go there. Um. And Tim was 1:06:40.960 --> 1:06:44.600 in denial a bit about not about Alzheimer's, but about 1:06:45.200 --> 1:06:49.400 the possible issues. You know, he wanted it to be anxiety. 1:06:49.440 --> 1:06:51.280 He wanted to be something he could correct, something he 1:06:51.320 --> 1:06:54.720 could deal with, and and he was talking to specialists 1:06:54.720 --> 1:06:57.440 and he thought he was making progress. And he and 1:06:57.480 --> 1:06:59.360 I had a lot of conversations, you know, just about 1:06:59.360 --> 1:07:01.920 how to relax. Not that I was any model of 1:07:01.920 --> 1:07:06.600 relaxation or am on television, but I was sitting next 1:07:06.600 --> 1:07:09.920 to him, and you know, I knew it was going 1:07:09.960 --> 1:07:12.880 to be a struggle for whatever reason. And you know, 1:07:12.880 --> 1:07:16.640 I've seen him on the golf course sometimes get anxious, uh, 1:07:16.720 --> 1:07:18.800 in terms of you know, just getting his own way 1:07:19.640 --> 1:07:22.720 about the golf swing or whatever. And you know, it 1:07:22.800 --> 1:07:24.320 was a strength and a weakness for him to be 1:07:24.400 --> 1:07:27.120 so conscious of, you know, how to get better, how 1:07:27.160 --> 1:07:30.000 to get better, and always be you know, focused on that, 1:07:31.600 --> 1:07:34.439 because yeah, it helps you get better to care so much, 1:07:34.480 --> 1:07:38.400 but it can help me get worse. Two to to 1:07:38.600 --> 1:07:42.000 not be able to forget in the moment that you know, 1:07:42.480 --> 1:07:44.520 all those things that you've been worried about. Let's go 1:07:44.560 --> 1:07:48.160 back to Jeff Russell. The diagnosis was crushing. I mean 1:07:48.160 --> 1:07:53.000 it was crushing, but a little part of me was like, 1:07:53.360 --> 1:07:58.080 I'm it explains a lot, you know, to find out 1:07:58.120 --> 1:08:01.760 that he's got a medical condition explains a lot because 1:08:01.960 --> 1:08:04.640 what I saw, you know, what I saw happening in 1:08:04.640 --> 1:08:08.200 the last year could not have been you know, it 1:08:08.360 --> 1:08:12.320 just wasn't the Tim Roseford. I I knew, you know 1:08:12.440 --> 1:08:17.840 it and and um, but but yeah, you know, if 1:08:17.880 --> 1:08:23.240 it it's it's uh, he is such a great storyteller. 1:08:23.400 --> 1:08:26.840 And it's and the really sad thing is too, is 1:08:26.880 --> 1:08:31.960 he's got you know, he gets Alzheimer's, which is impacts 1:08:31.960 --> 1:08:38.680 the storyteller, right, um, and and and really damages that 1:08:39.200 --> 1:08:42.000 and now Jim Nance, who had gotten involved after it 1:08:42.080 --> 1:08:47.360 was clear everyone needed definitive answers. Nance's father died of Alzheimer's, 1:08:47.439 --> 1:08:50.760 and in two thousand eleven, in his father's honor, he 1:08:50.920 --> 1:08:55.519 created the Nance National Alzheimer Center, which since it opened 1:08:56.000 --> 1:09:00.280 has become a world leader in alzheimer research. The hospital 1:09:00.320 --> 1:09:03.160 in Houston treats thousands of patients a year, with goals 1:09:03.200 --> 1:09:07.599 to prevent the disease, slow down memory loss, and improve 1:09:07.680 --> 1:09:11.720 the quality of life for their patients. Tim, along with 1:09:11.760 --> 1:09:14.719 his wife and daughter Molly, went to Houston for almost 1:09:14.720 --> 1:09:18.240 a week for a series of tests and analysis. Nance 1:09:18.280 --> 1:09:21.120 picked up the bill for everything that wasn't covered by insurance. 1:09:21.360 --> 1:09:23.880 Has been a friend of mine for a long long time. 1:09:24.600 --> 1:09:27.200 But all of a sudden you start hearing from the 1:09:27.200 --> 1:09:30.599 pulse banglers and that Davis testiness of the world. And 1:09:30.880 --> 1:09:33.080 I hate to even just start rattling off names because 1:09:33.080 --> 1:09:35.439 there were many many people said, he have you heard 1:09:35.439 --> 1:09:39.880 about Tim? What can you do? I mean, instantly I 1:09:39.960 --> 1:09:42.439 got on the phone called Genevieve. I had met her 1:09:42.960 --> 1:09:47.160 and his daughters years ago. I remember when the girls 1:09:47.160 --> 1:09:50.960 were young, and how proud of father he was, and 1:09:51.240 --> 1:09:56.320 how great father and husband he is um And I said, Genevieve, 1:09:56.840 --> 1:10:00.400 please please let me just get you at says to 1:10:00.439 --> 1:10:03.080 our people down in Houston. Let's let's get Tim to 1:10:03.160 --> 1:10:05.640 Houston and we can get a game plan going and 1:10:05.680 --> 1:10:08.240 we can try to give him the best care and 1:10:08.280 --> 1:10:11.000 give him a chance and give him hope. In an 1:10:11.000 --> 1:10:13.320 effort to try and educate all of us on this 1:10:13.439 --> 1:10:16.360 horrific disease. Nance put me in touch with his lead 1:10:16.439 --> 1:10:20.920 doctor in Houston, Dr Stanley Appell, a specialist in neurology 1:10:21.080 --> 1:10:28.560 and neuromuscular medicine. Well, Alzheimer's is a very difficult proposition. 1:10:29.120 --> 1:10:33.760 It's been difficult for patients, it's been difficult for families, 1:10:34.760 --> 1:10:38.400 and it's really been hard for the medical profession to 1:10:38.479 --> 1:10:41.639 come up with a meaningful therapy. As a matter of fact, 1:10:42.200 --> 1:10:48.000 at present, there are truly no meaningful therapies. And the 1:10:48.520 --> 1:10:55.439 difficulty is this isn't just a diagnosis of an individual patient. 1:10:56.439 --> 1:10:59.760 This is a diagnosis that affects the whole family. The 1:11:00.000 --> 1:11:03.799 old family is implicated. You know, during the early stages 1:11:03.880 --> 1:11:09.439 of Alzheimer's, the patient is aware at the earliest stage, 1:11:09.560 --> 1:11:12.280 the family might not be aware, and only the patient 1:11:12.360 --> 1:11:17.000 might be aware, but as you progress through the varying stages, 1:11:17.880 --> 1:11:22.439 it turns out that the family is aware and the 1:11:22.520 --> 1:11:25.840 patient is aware. And then we get to what I 1:11:25.920 --> 1:11:29.519 consider the most horrific part of it, when the patient 1:11:29.680 --> 1:11:33.639 is not aware and the family and friends and loved 1:11:33.640 --> 1:11:39.280 ones so totally aware, and you can't connect. And that's 1:11:39.320 --> 1:11:42.800 the difficulty. This interview was almost a year ago. Dr 1:11:42.840 --> 1:11:45.840 Appelle was incredibly generous with his time, and I'll follow 1:11:45.920 --> 1:11:48.840 up this podcast with much more on the disease itself 1:11:48.880 --> 1:11:53.000 from both Nance and dr Appelle, but for now here 1:11:53.040 --> 1:11:56.479 he is on the indicators. Is there a few things 1:11:56.520 --> 1:11:59.639 you give people to look forward to better educate them 1:11:59.640 --> 1:12:05.400 about this? Hey, it's time to go see a doctor. Well, look, 1:12:08.120 --> 1:12:12.519 the experience is an interesting one. When you forget a 1:12:12.560 --> 1:12:19.120 few things, we usually say, Okay, I've forgotten something, big deal. 1:12:19.640 --> 1:12:24.720 I'm just getting a little older. Well does that happen? Sure? Uh, 1:12:25.240 --> 1:12:30.920 But then people don't act on that. Patients don't act 1:12:30.960 --> 1:12:34.839 on that, families don't act on that, and you keep waiting. 1:12:35.640 --> 1:12:40.519 And unfortunately, in the old days, you would wait until 1:12:42.240 --> 1:12:47.920 people were acting out when they weren't themselves, and you say, oh, 1:12:48.120 --> 1:12:50.760 it's hit the emotional stage. Therefore, I need to get 1:12:50.840 --> 1:12:53.639 him to the doctor to quiet things down. I think 1:12:53.680 --> 1:12:59.280 we're a lot better about this now. So Ah, could 1:12:59.280 --> 1:13:03.680 there be strong oakes causing this? Sure? Could there be 1:13:04.600 --> 1:13:09.160 sleep at me and causing it? Sure? So the problem 1:13:09.360 --> 1:13:15.520 is any symptom I give you could have multiple explanations. 1:13:15.560 --> 1:13:21.080 All I would say is we need informed patients, and 1:13:21.120 --> 1:13:25.080 we need informed physicians who don't make the assumption that 1:13:25.160 --> 1:13:30.080 everything is a stroke or everything is anxiety depression, which 1:13:30.120 --> 1:13:34.840 people are too easy to implicate. I asked Nance for 1:13:35.000 --> 1:13:37.680 his advice on how to best handle the situation in 1:13:37.720 --> 1:13:41.479 which a loved one is diagnosed with Alzheimer's. I just 1:13:41.600 --> 1:13:46.240 got to the point where I savored every stage with 1:13:46.280 --> 1:13:50.280 my dad, even though I would say, for the last 1:13:50.360 --> 1:13:53.559 five years you couldn't really tell, like even knew who 1:13:53.600 --> 1:13:56.760 you were. But you know, the next year would come 1:13:56.760 --> 1:13:58.800 around and you think, man, I wish he was at 1:13:58.800 --> 1:14:01.479 the stage it was a year ago. No. I quickly 1:14:01.800 --> 1:14:05.720 learned that you have to like realize what you have 1:14:06.040 --> 1:14:09.639 that moment. It's it's as good as it's going to be, 1:14:09.640 --> 1:14:13.639 because it's only gonna continue to go down a path 1:14:13.720 --> 1:14:18.040 where it just it worsens, So savor, savor the moment, 1:14:18.520 --> 1:14:21.639 take it for what it is. They're trying their harness. 1:14:21.760 --> 1:14:23.720 I used to look at my dad and think that 1:14:24.000 --> 1:14:28.960 somewhere inside of him, he knows exactly what I'm saying. 1:14:30.160 --> 1:14:32.880 He just can't respond. He doesn't have the ability to 1:14:32.880 --> 1:14:37.080 connect everything and show you that he's hearing you and 1:14:37.160 --> 1:14:40.040 he wants to. I was trying to do some reading 1:14:40.160 --> 1:14:42.920 is to how I should communicate with tim and not 1:14:43.000 --> 1:14:45.879 try to make him feel frustrated that he can't remember 1:14:46.040 --> 1:14:49.320 and or just fill in the gaps for them prior 1:14:49.360 --> 1:14:51.760 to even teeing them up for a story. Like I 1:14:51.880 --> 1:14:54.599 just struggle with that, and I wonder, am I what 1:14:54.640 --> 1:14:57.320 do I need to be doing right or wrong to 1:14:59.080 --> 1:15:01.360 before we to that? And I'll get to that in 1:15:01.400 --> 1:15:06.639 a minute. Everyone asked me to predict the future, doc 1:15:06.720 --> 1:15:08.680 how long is my loved one done it? When is 1:15:08.720 --> 1:15:11.280 it going to be worth everything? And we can't do it, 1:15:11.880 --> 1:15:14.639 none of us can do it because everyone is different. 1:15:14.720 --> 1:15:18.000 So that's the first issue. One day at a time, 1:15:18.080 --> 1:15:20.759 you know, that's all we're given, one day at a time. 1:15:21.560 --> 1:15:26.840 So the one day at a time implies patience. It's 1:15:26.880 --> 1:15:30.280 patience on the family's part. It's patient on the loved 1:15:30.280 --> 1:15:34.760 ones part, it's patient on the great friends part. So 1:15:36.160 --> 1:15:41.320 we don't have to remind people that they're slipping. They 1:15:41.360 --> 1:15:45.960 know it at early stages. You know it. Uh, Let's 1:15:46.000 --> 1:15:50.519 not try and make them smarter, because it's frustrating for them, 1:15:50.560 --> 1:15:55.920 frustrating for you. Let's remember a couple of things. Number one, 1:15:57.080 --> 1:16:03.240 most patients with Alzheimer's have great memory of things thirty 1:16:03.320 --> 1:16:10.439 years ago. It's very comforting. Music is very comforting. So 1:16:11.000 --> 1:16:14.240 let's take out the picture alboom of what it was 1:16:14.320 --> 1:16:17.439 like thirty years ago, when we were young, when we 1:16:17.520 --> 1:16:23.200 did daring things. That's comforting. It's comforting for the patient, 1:16:23.840 --> 1:16:28.719 it's comforting for you as a great friend. Music, music 1:16:28.840 --> 1:16:33.519 that you all love. Amazing to me how music and 1:16:33.640 --> 1:16:38.719 dancing at some of our centers is an effective way 1:16:38.760 --> 1:16:45.200 to keep patients involved, happy and remembering what days were like. 1:16:46.120 --> 1:16:52.200 So when you lose function, you lose the most recent function. 1:16:53.080 --> 1:16:55.800 What did I have for breakfast? What did I do yesterday? 1:16:55.880 --> 1:16:59.479 What did I do the day before? That happens to 1:16:59.520 --> 1:17:03.799 all of us anyway. But when we go back twenty 1:17:03.920 --> 1:17:07.360 or thirty years, we may forget the name, but we 1:17:07.439 --> 1:17:12.519 don't forget the experience. We don't ever forget. You know, 1:17:13.320 --> 1:17:15.840 it's not what you said that I remember. It's how 1:17:15.880 --> 1:17:20.679 you made me feel that you don't forget and that 1:17:20.800 --> 1:17:25.680 you can relate to. And guess what, even patients with 1:17:25.720 --> 1:17:30.160 alzheimas can relate to that. So there's no reason to 1:17:30.360 --> 1:17:34.080 challenge anyone to remember anything yesterday or the day before. 1:17:35.120 --> 1:17:39.160 Get in their comfort zone and really address their comfort 1:17:39.280 --> 1:17:43.040 zone so their days can be better. Well. Nance was 1:17:43.040 --> 1:17:46.280 getting rosfort access to his hospital and doctors. The rest 1:17:46.280 --> 1:17:48.240 of us were doing the best we could to connect 1:17:48.280 --> 1:17:52.160 with our friend. By the summer of Tim and I 1:17:52.200 --> 1:17:54.720 had both been bought out of our golf channel contracts 1:17:55.280 --> 1:17:59.080 NBC and Molly Solomon, the channel's executive producer, honored the 1:17:59.120 --> 1:18:02.000 full two years Tim had left on his deal, which 1:18:02.000 --> 1:18:05.280 meant a lot to him and his family. I had 1:18:05.280 --> 1:18:07.880 the time and opportunity to make the same drive Timid 1:18:07.880 --> 1:18:10.799 made so often over the course of his career, Orlando 1:18:11.000 --> 1:18:13.800 to Palm Beach. I picked him up at his house 1:18:13.840 --> 1:18:16.400 on Sunday afternoons and we would play The Palm Beach 1:18:16.439 --> 1:18:19.080 Part three. The course would give us the run of 1:18:19.120 --> 1:18:23.519 the place. Tony the pro never charged us. Patrick the 1:18:23.560 --> 1:18:27.200 starter always had a cart waiting. We jump around, hit 1:18:27.280 --> 1:18:31.479 some shots, drink a beer, have some fun. If it 1:18:31.560 --> 1:18:33.600 was too hot, we just sit at the bar and 1:18:33.640 --> 1:18:37.040 eat lunch. It was a series of Sundays with Rosie, 1:18:48.439 --> 1:18:52.120 started with the par and ended with the par How 1:18:52.160 --> 1:18:56.040 good is that, Jenny Hawk? Where are you? Man? You've 1:18:56.200 --> 1:18:58.479 been mad at that one? That would have won you 1:18:58.479 --> 1:19:01.120 a lot? Think too bad? Do? I hope you're doing 1:19:01.160 --> 1:19:04.600 Bill doing will and I miss you. We had some 1:19:04.640 --> 1:19:06.920 good times on the road. I'm not so good times. 1:19:07.400 --> 1:19:11.720 That's what l's all about, right, amen, buddy. I was 1:19:11.760 --> 1:19:14.800 often joined on these trips by Jeff Russell, Craig Dulch, 1:19:15.240 --> 1:19:19.560 Davis Sesna, and Matt Haggarty. I'll never ever forget that day, 1:19:20.040 --> 1:19:22.120 you know. I'll never ever forget that day. I won't. 1:19:22.120 --> 1:19:24.679 I won't, you know, from picking him up, from driving 1:19:24.720 --> 1:19:27.160 from driving down and not knowing if we were actually 1:19:27.439 --> 1:19:32.280 going to meet him that morning, UM to him coming 1:19:32.320 --> 1:19:36.800 out getting in your car. You couldn't move because you 1:19:36.920 --> 1:19:41.519 just had a spinal tap um a few days earlier, 1:19:41.600 --> 1:19:46.679 so you still sore. Breakfast He was funny. He drank 1:19:46.720 --> 1:19:50.000 a lot of iced tea that morning. And then over 1:19:50.040 --> 1:19:54.160 to the Atlantic Ocean, sitting there looking at it, talking, 1:19:54.280 --> 1:20:01.599 remembering it, crying, laughing, and then I remember him asking 1:20:01.680 --> 1:20:03.479 for beers. He wanted to go good beer. So we 1:20:03.520 --> 1:20:06.639 went back. We had a couple of beers. I mean, 1:20:06.680 --> 1:20:10.439 it was a really it was a beautiful day, you know. 1:20:10.800 --> 1:20:16.720 And then at the very end and it was like 1:20:16.760 --> 1:20:19.400 the whole thing, everything was like everything was all right, 1:20:19.439 --> 1:20:22.559 and like all day, everything was all right, all morning, 1:20:22.640 --> 1:20:26.880 everything was all right. And then we get out of 1:20:26.920 --> 1:20:29.400 the car and it's been you and me and tim 1:20:29.439 --> 1:20:36.680 all day. And I get out. I was sitting in 1:20:36.760 --> 1:20:38.680 the back and I get out of the car and 1:20:38.760 --> 1:20:40.960 Timmy has gotten out of the car and we were 1:20:41.000 --> 1:20:43.720 walking and he turned around. He looked at me and 1:20:43.760 --> 1:20:45.880 he says, hey, is is there anybody in the car. 1:20:46.080 --> 1:20:48.880 I need to say goodbye to you guys. Let's do 1:20:48.960 --> 1:20:53.080 this again. Yes, I hope too, buddy. I'm gonna be down. 1:20:53.240 --> 1:20:56.880 I'm around with so I'm gonna come back now cool 1:20:57.800 --> 1:21:04.920 one O nine and just make sure you didn't Oh yeah, yeah, 1:21:05.240 --> 1:21:08.240 I'll come and ask you. I love you guys. I 1:21:09.560 --> 1:21:12.200 can get a lift through this. Oh yeah, we're going 1:21:12.280 --> 1:21:19.200 through it. It I missed him Rosafort. Besides the occasional FaceTime, 1:21:19.240 --> 1:21:21.360 and because my family and I moved to San Diego. 1:21:21.680 --> 1:21:24.760 The last time I saw him was in November, the 1:21:24.800 --> 1:21:28.080 weekend of his second daughter's wedding. It was so good 1:21:28.080 --> 1:21:32.040 to watch him see Molly get married to Mason. They 1:21:32.040 --> 1:21:34.800 had moved up. To date, the SESNA has hosted it 1:21:35.080 --> 1:21:37.400 and it was an incredibly special evening in Palm Beach. 1:21:38.360 --> 1:21:43.519 Here's more from Davis. Sesna first and foremost is a 1:21:43.560 --> 1:21:47.240 great friend of mine. I'm I'm blessed to have him 1:21:47.280 --> 1:21:51.960 as a friend, and I'm flattered, Uh that he calls 1:21:52.040 --> 1:21:57.479 me a friend. Uh. And he he is a giver. Uh. 1:21:57.560 --> 1:22:00.880 They're givers and takers in life. And Tim has always 1:22:00.880 --> 1:22:03.679 been a giver. Even when he was on the taking 1:22:03.720 --> 1:22:06.439 side of an interview where he had to get a 1:22:06.479 --> 1:22:10.000 story out. Uh, he was giving of his heart and 1:22:10.080 --> 1:22:17.000 respect to the questions. Uh and to the performance. Uh. 1:22:17.960 --> 1:22:21.960 He has done that. You know. He and Genevieve been 1:22:22.000 --> 1:22:26.720 married a long time with beautiful kids. Uh. And uh 1:22:27.080 --> 1:22:31.679 he uh Uh he never hung out after the show. 1:22:31.760 --> 1:22:34.880 He most half the time I would talk to Tim, 1:22:34.920 --> 1:22:38.680 and I'm sure it was with you. Tim was on 1:22:38.720 --> 1:22:42.040 the road between Orlando and West Palm Beach. That was 1:22:42.120 --> 1:22:45.360 the time he had to talk because he wanted to 1:22:45.360 --> 1:22:52.640 get home to the family. Uh and uh Uh this 1:22:52.840 --> 1:22:58.519 Alzheimer's for Tim is devastating for him and us because 1:22:58.720 --> 1:23:01.800 we've sort of felt he was just coming into his 1:23:01.920 --> 1:23:06.519 celebrated years of being a journalist where he was getting 1:23:06.560 --> 1:23:09.760 the best stories. Uh. He could walk into any door 1:23:09.760 --> 1:23:14.000 anywhere in the world. He had achieved the respect and notoriety, 1:23:14.720 --> 1:23:19.040 Uh to perform at the level he always wanted. Uh. 1:23:19.080 --> 1:23:23.040 And then it it just shut him down. It's not right. 1:23:23.880 --> 1:23:29.640 Uh and uh it just hurts. Uh. We love the 1:23:29.680 --> 1:23:36.640 guy and he he so wants to be back, and 1:23:36.720 --> 1:23:38.720 you and and when you talk to him, you so 1:23:39.680 --> 1:23:45.439 want him to be back, and he can't be And 1:23:45.439 --> 1:23:50.320 and that's painful. Roseford had an aggressive case of the 1:23:50.360 --> 1:23:54.280 horrific disease and as a result, he fell. He broke 1:23:54.320 --> 1:23:58.680 his hip, and that only exacerbated his decline. Prior to 1:23:58.760 --> 1:24:00.960 the fall, a wide variet idea of his friends would 1:24:01.040 --> 1:24:04.719 visit Tim. Here's Bob Ford again, the pro It's seminar 1:24:04.800 --> 1:24:07.519 in Oakmont, who would see Tim on a regular basis 1:24:07.800 --> 1:24:09.840 during the opens at Oakmont. You know, he would stay 1:24:09.880 --> 1:24:12.320 with me, and we had a gal that would cook 1:24:13.400 --> 1:24:17.760 for everybody that week. And you know, he came home 1:24:17.840 --> 1:24:20.439 late as you like you would, and you know, ten 1:24:20.520 --> 1:24:23.040 ten thirty eleven, I'm already in bed. I'm not waiting 1:24:23.120 --> 1:24:26.760 up for him. And this guy was so enthralled with 1:24:26.800 --> 1:24:28.760 who he was, and he was so sweet to her, 1:24:28.760 --> 1:24:31.400 as you can imagine, and she waited up for him 1:24:31.400 --> 1:24:33.240 and cook, you know, heat his food up for him, 1:24:33.240 --> 1:24:35.720 and he'd eat and go to bed, and uh so 1:24:35.760 --> 1:24:37.639 we didn't get a chance to talk a lot during 1:24:37.680 --> 1:24:39.439 that week, you know, a week of the U S Open. 1:24:39.560 --> 1:24:44.040 He's obviously and we're both busy, but you know, those 1:24:44.080 --> 1:24:46.760 were great times that we had together. And we played 1:24:46.800 --> 1:24:48.839 a lot of golf together. He's come over to Seminal 1:24:48.960 --> 1:24:51.559 a lot to hit some balls with me, and we've 1:24:51.600 --> 1:24:55.320 had a few lunches this uh this season together with 1:24:55.360 --> 1:24:57.840 a few of the guys that he knows, and you know, 1:24:57.920 --> 1:25:02.200 he's he's incredibly engaging and he's timmy pretty much during 1:25:02.240 --> 1:25:04.280 the whole time. You know, you know, when they leave, 1:25:04.360 --> 1:25:07.679 you know, tell me again his name and and things 1:25:07.720 --> 1:25:09.760 like that. But all in all, I think he's been 1:25:09.760 --> 1:25:14.320 doing really well. John Hawkins would send Tim video messages 1:25:14.360 --> 1:25:15.880 which I'd played for Tim while we were on the 1:25:15.920 --> 1:25:19.360 golf course. To the man who taught me more about 1:25:19.439 --> 1:25:23.040 being a golf writer than anybody on earth, the man 1:25:23.080 --> 1:25:26.240 who got me on more great golf courses for free 1:25:26.400 --> 1:25:30.519 than anybody on earth than any twenty five people on earth. 1:25:31.439 --> 1:25:36.280 To my hero, my friend, my idol, one of the 1:25:36.320 --> 1:25:39.439 greatest men I've ever met, t Rose. How about that 1:25:39.520 --> 1:25:43.439 put on eight team bro? Oh my goodness, we could 1:25:43.439 --> 1:25:46.800 have used that at Hillside, as Mattie G pointed out, 1:25:48.400 --> 1:25:50.360 You slept Mattie G upside of the head for that 1:25:50.400 --> 1:25:52.920 with Mattie Gee, huge shout out for sending me a 1:25:53.000 --> 1:25:56.880 video And Tim, I love you, brother, I miss you. 1:25:57.760 --> 1:26:01.040 I talked to Rude as soon as I got previous movie. 1:26:01.960 --> 1:26:04.120 We're both thinking of you. We both love you. You've 1:26:04.120 --> 1:26:07.479 been such a huge part of our lives. You get better, 1:26:07.680 --> 1:26:11.000 you hang in there, you hang tough. I know you will, 1:26:11.880 --> 1:26:13.680 because you don't know any other way. One of the 1:26:13.720 --> 1:26:17.400 hardest working guys I've ever been around, probably the most 1:26:17.479 --> 1:26:21.679 influential journalists in my career. Tim Rosafort. I can't thank 1:26:21.720 --> 1:26:24.360 you enough. Brother. There's anything I can do to make 1:26:24.360 --> 1:26:27.320 your life better. Please give me a shout. I love you, 1:26:27.960 --> 1:26:30.880 talk to you soon. Take care. Tim would often ask 1:26:31.080 --> 1:26:34.679 to fire back. Johnny Hawk here with t Rose Palm 1:26:34.720 --> 1:26:37.840 Beach Part three. I told him you gave him a 1:26:37.880 --> 1:26:40.519 call today and wish him nothing but the best. Kenny, 1:26:41.400 --> 1:26:45.120 where are you been? Man? I miss you and nobody 1:26:45.160 --> 1:26:49.840 to fight against him with the last ten years. So 1:26:49.920 --> 1:26:54.439 let's taking this little injury minor maybe potential setback to 1:26:55.840 --> 1:26:59.240 move up to a couple of teas Grandpa tease you 1:26:59.400 --> 1:27:04.240 used today anyway, right tell Ruda said, Hey, you know, 1:27:05.160 --> 1:27:07.439 let's spend some time together. I was talking about you 1:27:07.479 --> 1:27:09.960 a couple of times in the last month. It's people, 1:27:10.000 --> 1:27:16.320 and here you are, Johnny huk H is just like yesterday, 1:27:16.400 --> 1:27:20.519 Johnny Off. Yeah, come check me out. Man. The guy 1:27:20.680 --> 1:27:22.880 with all the memories doesn't get to share him and 1:27:22.880 --> 1:27:28.760 that's horrible. But you know, life is not fair, and 1:27:28.800 --> 1:27:32.000 this is just yet another very grim and nasty reminder 1:27:32.840 --> 1:27:36.760 of that. Of that premise, here's Heimie Diaz on his 1:27:36.880 --> 1:27:40.080 last trip to see Tim. You went and saw him 1:27:40.080 --> 1:27:43.440 not not that long ago, right a Stow in September 1:27:44.200 --> 1:27:48.479 the last time. And what was that like? Well, he 1:27:48.600 --> 1:27:52.400 was in the facility near his home. He was when 1:27:52.400 --> 1:27:57.280 I uh, you know, he was watching television. Uh he 1:27:57.360 --> 1:28:02.679 was dressed land in bed, uh a little a blanket 1:28:02.680 --> 1:28:05.160 over him. He was to get chills. He was watching 1:28:05.160 --> 1:28:11.240 a college football game. I walked in and uh, the 1:28:11.320 --> 1:28:14.000 nurse that had brought me up to his room said, 1:28:14.000 --> 1:28:16.839 a friend of yours is here, and he didn't respond, 1:28:16.880 --> 1:28:20.160 and I thought, oh gosh, I'm too late. And then 1:28:21.360 --> 1:28:24.000 you know, about a minute later, he goes, hey, what 1:28:24.000 --> 1:28:27.720 are you doing here? Iimi, and he recognized me. It 1:28:27.840 --> 1:28:31.120 was odd, and I guess, you know, consciousness and recognition 1:28:31.280 --> 1:28:36.400 and you know, all the cognitive things that fly in 1:28:36.400 --> 1:28:39.960 and out with Alzheimer's are kind of random. So then 1:28:39.960 --> 1:28:42.280 we uh, I said, hey, man, great to see you. 1:28:42.280 --> 1:28:46.800 You know how you know, kept it light obviously, um. 1:28:46.880 --> 1:28:50.880 And even though you know, his short term memory was 1:28:50.880 --> 1:28:53.000 was poor and and he was kind of watching the 1:28:53.040 --> 1:28:57.720 game and this sort of you know, erratic way. We 1:28:57.720 --> 1:29:01.400 were talking about old days and those those conversations they 1:29:01.400 --> 1:29:04.080 weren't long ones, but they were coaching, you know, and 1:29:04.080 --> 1:29:06.919 you'd have a nice little you know, three or forward, 1:29:07.600 --> 1:29:11.160 uh retort to something, or he'd laugh if he remembered 1:29:11.160 --> 1:29:13.559 a name or if I mentioned a name or mentioned 1:29:13.560 --> 1:29:16.960 an old story or a punchline, so you know, it 1:29:17.080 --> 1:29:19.519 was it was nice just to connect, even though I 1:29:19.600 --> 1:29:22.839 knew I probably if I came back again, he wouldn't 1:29:22.840 --> 1:29:28.320 recognize him. So um, I stayed about forty five minutes 1:29:28.360 --> 1:29:29.920 and just you know, I just sat at the foot 1:29:29.920 --> 1:29:36.160 of his bed. Um it was kind of time to go. 1:29:36.240 --> 1:29:39.519 I could tell he was getting tired, and that, you know, 1:29:39.560 --> 1:29:42.960 I told him. I started talking about you know, the 1:29:42.960 --> 1:29:45.360 business a little bit and what a great career he'd had, 1:29:45.439 --> 1:29:50.080 and I already missed him. And uh, I always remembered 1:29:50.360 --> 1:29:55.479 that when I first got started writing about golf, I 1:29:55.520 --> 1:29:58.320 was always impressed by because we were you know, I 1:29:58.360 --> 1:30:00.559 wasn't making a lot, even though it's so right now, 1:30:00.600 --> 1:30:03.280 I was very very lucky to be there. It was 1:30:03.320 --> 1:30:05.880 still like a thousand bucks here or there was a 1:30:05.880 --> 1:30:09.520 big deal. And I started noticing in these tournament programs 1:30:10.040 --> 1:30:12.320 when I go to a tournament that this guy Tim 1:30:12.400 --> 1:30:15.760 Roseford always had a freelance story in there, and uh, 1:30:16.720 --> 1:30:18.679 and I knew it wasn't a staffer for the tournament, 1:30:18.680 --> 1:30:20.240 because it was at every tournament it was like five 1:30:20.360 --> 1:30:22.800 or six of them in a row. And he had 1:30:22.840 --> 1:30:25.599 been freelancing those things just out of industry and and 1:30:25.760 --> 1:30:30.400 his work ethic. And uh so I started asking about 1:30:30.479 --> 1:30:32.439 those and emulating them. And you know, I didn't do 1:30:32.560 --> 1:30:34.120 nearly as many as Sam, but I did a couple 1:30:34.160 --> 1:30:38.080 and and um I told him, I said, Tim, I 1:30:38.120 --> 1:30:40.759 followed you, Man. I followed you. I followed your work ethic, 1:30:40.840 --> 1:30:45.559 I followed your industry. I followed, uh, you know, the 1:30:45.640 --> 1:30:48.560 way that you just really made that that job of 1:30:48.600 --> 1:30:52.080 your life, or tried to at least, and or I 1:30:52.120 --> 1:30:54.639 tried to. And he goes, no, no, I followed you, 1:30:55.360 --> 1:30:58.479 and uh, I said, no, Tim, I followed you, and 1:30:58.520 --> 1:31:01.160 he goes, I followed you. And so it was this 1:31:01.240 --> 1:31:04.040 sort of emphatic thing that, you know, very kind of 1:31:04.120 --> 1:31:09.519 mutual admiration and and love really and so we both laughed. Uh, 1:31:10.320 --> 1:31:13.760 but you know, I just stayed. I put my hand 1:31:13.760 --> 1:31:16.639 on his put my hand on his on his ankle, 1:31:16.680 --> 1:31:19.280 and I told him I loved him and because I 1:31:19.320 --> 1:31:20.880 love you, Man, I love you, And it was sort 1:31:20.880 --> 1:31:23.639 of this you know, i'll see you again kind of voice, 1:31:24.280 --> 1:31:31.519 and and I left and yeah, you know, you know, 1:31:31.840 --> 1:31:35.400 we all you always hear about male toxicity and how 1:31:35.439 --> 1:31:39.280 we're unable to express emotion. And uh, I mean, I've 1:31:39.320 --> 1:31:42.840 always been kind of a softie anyway, but I might, 1:31:42.960 --> 1:31:46.960 I might, I might. I mean I'm not a tough guy. 1:31:46.960 --> 1:31:50.920 I don't mean that. I just meant, you know, sometimes 1:31:50.960 --> 1:31:55.160 you compartmentalize things away and and moments like that you 1:31:55.240 --> 1:31:58.559 realize that you're just a kid and and things touch 1:31:58.640 --> 1:32:03.280 you and it's good too. It's good to share that 1:32:03.320 --> 1:32:05.360 with another human that you've known a long time and 1:32:05.439 --> 1:32:09.200 you care about, uh, and just feel like, Okay, this 1:32:09.320 --> 1:32:11.360 is life and it ends. But you know, I felt 1:32:11.360 --> 1:32:14.719 like I closed the circle and as much as possible 1:32:14.760 --> 1:32:17.960 at least. But you know, it doesn't mean that it 1:32:18.040 --> 1:32:21.400 wasn't horribly sad, but it was at least something we're 1:32:21.439 --> 1:32:24.360 all going to experience at some point. And and I 1:32:24.400 --> 1:32:27.240 thought when I left him, you know, not not because 1:32:27.240 --> 1:32:31.720 of me, but I just thought, he's at peace, He's okay, 1:32:31.960 --> 1:32:36.280 this has not been emotionally, um, something that he hasn't 1:32:36.280 --> 1:32:38.559 been able to handle. Now. Of course I didn't see 1:32:38.560 --> 1:32:40.920 all the moments, but I just got the sense that 1:32:42.000 --> 1:32:46.519 he had a good handle on on everything, that he'd 1:32:46.520 --> 1:32:49.080 lived a great life, he had a great family. Yeah, 1:32:49.080 --> 1:32:52.160 it was gonna be too short, but he did his best, 1:32:52.439 --> 1:32:56.920 and UM, a lot of people loved him. And because 1:32:57.400 --> 1:33:00.400 you know when I signed in and that was like 1:33:00.439 --> 1:33:06.400 a Sunday morning, I believe, um in September, and it 1:33:06.520 --> 1:33:09.240 was that it was at I think I got in there. 1:33:10.920 --> 1:33:13.480 There are three names in front of me that day, 1:33:13.680 --> 1:33:15.519 and then the day before I turned the page back 1:33:15.520 --> 1:33:18.519 there had been like six names. So people were visiting 1:33:18.520 --> 1:33:22.200 Tim constantly, and you know, everybody was doing the best 1:33:22.240 --> 1:33:25.080 they could to show him. And I think he actually 1:33:25.120 --> 1:33:28.439 knew shifting gears. And as a celebration of his life 1:33:28.439 --> 1:33:31.639 and legacy, we're circling back to get more uplifting memories 1:33:31.640 --> 1:33:36.120 and reflections from friends, colleagues, and players, starting again with 1:33:36.160 --> 1:33:42.599 Jeff Russell modern day golf writers reporters. I mean he's 1:33:42.640 --> 1:33:45.920 on the Mount rushmant for me, I think he is. 1:33:46.120 --> 1:33:47.960 You know, I think he is. I think, I mean, 1:33:48.000 --> 1:33:51.439 I think you know modern you know you got Tim, 1:33:51.680 --> 1:33:58.120 you got him, me, you got Alan shipnuk Um. But Tim, Tim, 1:33:58.160 --> 1:34:01.280 you know, Tim was the first one to make that 1:34:01.360 --> 1:34:07.960 transition from from writing to television. And look, at the 1:34:08.040 --> 1:34:14.439 end of the day, television was was probably his best medium. Um, 1:34:14.520 --> 1:34:18.200 when you talk to You talked to the producers at 1:34:18.200 --> 1:34:22.720 the Golf Channel back in probably from two thousands and 1:34:22.840 --> 1:34:26.599 two on, and they talked about how they'd be doing 1:34:26.600 --> 1:34:29.960 a show and you know, something would fall through, or 1:34:30.000 --> 1:34:32.400 this would father, something would have, you know, or somebody 1:34:32.520 --> 1:34:35.880 was late showing up for a press conference and they'd 1:34:35.920 --> 1:34:39.320 have ten or twelve minutes and they would they didn't 1:34:39.320 --> 1:34:41.320 know what to do, and they would put they would 1:34:41.360 --> 1:34:44.280 put Tim up and just say, you know, kind of 1:34:44.320 --> 1:34:47.120 the TV version of empty your notebook. And he and 1:34:47.200 --> 1:34:49.479 he would, he would do it, and he would kill it. 1:34:49.600 --> 1:34:54.280 He was, you know, full of information, full of of nuggets, 1:34:54.680 --> 1:34:59.840 you know, and and it was and it really interesting TV. 1:35:00.080 --> 1:35:02.040 And he was you know, he was the first one 1:35:02.400 --> 1:35:05.240 in golf to do that. And there were you know, 1:35:05.680 --> 1:35:11.160 Adam Schefter and Tim Kirchin and Peter Gammon's and I'm 1:35:11.160 --> 1:35:14.960 thinking of all the experts and other sports, but but golf. 1:35:14.960 --> 1:35:17.320 You know, in golf, Tim was you know, Tim was 1:35:17.400 --> 1:35:22.759 that guy. And Um and a lot of really good 1:35:24.560 --> 1:35:31.439 golf writers couldn't make that transition, you know, weren't weren't Um. 1:35:31.479 --> 1:35:36.040 You know, look, TV's hard, it's not it's it's you know, 1:35:36.320 --> 1:35:38.080 it's hard to get up in front of a camera 1:35:38.160 --> 1:35:42.520 and and and be yourself and and and be entertaining 1:35:42.680 --> 1:35:45.559 and and you know, I think a lot of people 1:35:45.560 --> 1:35:47.920 think it's easy. It's not easy. It's hard. But Tim 1:35:48.040 --> 1:35:52.040 was Tim was was really good at it, and maybe 1:35:52.080 --> 1:35:56.120 better at it than then he was, you know, working 1:35:56.120 --> 1:35:58.320 in a media center, although he was good at that too. 1:35:58.600 --> 1:36:01.559 Here's more from Imi Daz. Jim's got his own spot. 1:36:01.680 --> 1:36:05.439 You know. Uh, I always measured myself from a different way, 1:36:05.479 --> 1:36:07.840 and I felt way short. And I mean there were 1:36:07.840 --> 1:36:11.439 guys and you know, friends to this day, you know 1:36:12.080 --> 1:36:15.920 who I know, you know, I just I did not 1:36:16.040 --> 1:36:18.320 have their ability of their talent, and and I'm good 1:36:18.320 --> 1:36:19.840 with that. I mean, I think we all just run 1:36:19.840 --> 1:36:24.439 our own race, you know. Um, And I've been I'm 1:36:24.680 --> 1:36:28.080 I'm I'm very satisfied with the race I ran. I 1:36:28.080 --> 1:36:30.599 could have run it better, but I'm just saying it 1:36:30.640 --> 1:36:32.680 was not going to approach the race a lot of guys, right, 1:36:33.439 --> 1:36:38.320 But but Tim had his own lane, you know. And uh, 1:36:38.439 --> 1:36:40.519 and you know you look back. I mean talking to 1:36:40.560 --> 1:36:42.000 Rick Riley, who was one of those guys who I 1:36:42.000 --> 1:36:45.200 would never be able to approach. He he you know, 1:36:45.200 --> 1:36:50.160 he used to call Tim trunky because the job at 1:36:50.320 --> 1:36:54.599 s I when Tim, when when Rick was doing a 1:36:54.600 --> 1:36:57.680 a major was for the other guys to go out 1:36:57.720 --> 1:37:01.800 and get stuff. And Tim was his you know, secret weapon. Nick. 1:37:02.280 --> 1:37:04.240 He was the guy that you know, he could really 1:37:04.240 --> 1:37:06.960 count on to get something from somebody who would be 1:37:07.000 --> 1:37:10.880 otherwise hard to get or in a difficult, difficult you 1:37:10.920 --> 1:37:13.400 know maybe moment where they had maybe blown it or 1:37:13.439 --> 1:37:17.280 whatever talking about player. I mean, And so he called 1:37:17.360 --> 1:37:19.600 him trunky because he said, look, I want you to 1:37:19.640 --> 1:37:21.280 be there when he opens the trunk in the morning 1:37:21.280 --> 1:37:23.360 in the parking lot and when he slams it at 1:37:23.439 --> 1:37:28.439 night and he leaves and and so that's what Tim did. 1:37:30.400 --> 1:37:33.640 But you know those files he gave the Rick, you know, 1:37:33.720 --> 1:37:36.240 we're just like for Hawk. You know, those were gold 1:37:37.120 --> 1:37:40.640 and uh, you know, nobody could do that better than Tim. 1:37:40.840 --> 1:37:43.760 More from Mark Mulvoy, I think he'd go down as 1:37:44.360 --> 1:37:48.439 as really perhaps the most intrepid reporter maybe the game 1:37:48.479 --> 1:37:51.160 has seen. It was that way both in print and 1:37:51.160 --> 1:37:55.000 on television. You know, I mean the uppiscatory rhetoric or 1:37:55.080 --> 1:37:58.240 rhetoric that I think pervades these broadcasts. They think I 1:37:58.280 --> 1:38:00.439 worry about right now and all of these but going on. 1:38:00.600 --> 1:38:03.360 Is my god, you never hear a discouraging word on 1:38:03.400 --> 1:38:07.000 any of these telecasts in any sports, you know, and 1:38:07.040 --> 1:38:09.720 the dot coms and all these major leagues. It's sort 1:38:09.720 --> 1:38:12.559 of like prov you know, state controlled media. It's really 1:38:13.080 --> 1:38:15.879 I always think I visited once in Muscow the offices 1:38:15.960 --> 1:38:19.519 that comes comes to Mulskaya Pravda. That's what when you're 1:38:19.560 --> 1:38:22.679 reading these various pro leagues, they think, say, oh my god, 1:38:22.800 --> 1:38:26.000 this is just you know, state controlled. And uh, Timmy 1:38:26.240 --> 1:38:29.760 was not controlled by anybody. Timmy was controlled by his instincts, 1:38:29.760 --> 1:38:32.519 and his instincts were those of a great, great, great reporter. 1:38:33.280 --> 1:38:36.519 And here's Craig Dulch. When you think about how he's 1:38:36.560 --> 1:38:38.800 been honored since this happened. You know, when the PJ 1:38:38.960 --> 1:38:42.840 of America made him the twelfth honorary lifetime member, the 1:38:42.880 --> 1:38:45.400 first journalist he was able to get the award from 1:38:45.520 --> 1:38:48.599 Jack for memorial. You know, Jim Nance presented him up 1:38:48.640 --> 1:38:52.439 at at the memorial h on the classic name the 1:38:52.520 --> 1:38:56.480 Media Room after him, they created the Tim Roseford Distinguished 1:38:56.560 --> 1:38:59.720 Writers Award. You know, all these things happened. You know, 1:38:59.760 --> 1:39:03.040 you're ste Rhode Island endowed a scholarship in his name. 1:39:03.439 --> 1:39:06.559 So there's always going to be a college student going 1:39:06.640 --> 1:39:09.240 to University of Rhode Island and Tim, there weren't a 1:39:09.280 --> 1:39:12.719 lot of college graduates in his family. He was among 1:39:12.760 --> 1:39:15.360 the first to really get serious about it. And to 1:39:15.439 --> 1:39:18.280 know that, you know, Tim has left something behind. At 1:39:18.360 --> 1:39:21.920 least he's had some time to kind of experience the 1:39:22.080 --> 1:39:25.000 love that people have for him. And I think that's 1:39:25.080 --> 1:39:27.200 the one thing that helps a little because I know, 1:39:27.280 --> 1:39:29.760 even though it can be, you know, not the same 1:39:29.800 --> 1:39:32.880 as if he was their full body and spirit, he 1:39:32.960 --> 1:39:35.960 knows that people love him. And I think that's helped 1:39:36.000 --> 1:39:37.720 him get through the last two or three years, and 1:39:37.720 --> 1:39:39.840 I know it's helped his family get through it as well. 1:39:40.439 --> 1:39:43.599 In June, Tim wasn't able to make it to Ohio 1:39:43.720 --> 1:39:46.760 to accept his award from Jack and Barbara Nicholas, so 1:39:46.840 --> 1:39:49.880 instead they made a video of Tim sitting with the Nicholases. 1:39:50.320 --> 1:39:54.240 Jim nance led to the video. Trust is an important thing, 1:39:54.240 --> 1:39:56.880 I always felt, Jack, and you know, you can't walk 1:39:56.920 --> 1:39:59.320 away from a great story, even if it was just hey, 1:39:59.360 --> 1:40:02.559 you play he worded, and so you could tell the 1:40:02.600 --> 1:40:05.080 whole story and still and and have and have a 1:40:05.080 --> 1:40:09.320 relationship with someone over the course of time, and you 1:40:09.439 --> 1:40:14.800 respect the guy his intelligence, his work ethic and where 1:40:14.840 --> 1:40:17.080 he went and what and what he did, and Tim 1:40:17.240 --> 1:40:22.400 rose Afford was that type of person still is. I'll 1:40:22.439 --> 1:40:25.479 never forget, sadly, Jack, the day that I called you 1:40:25.520 --> 1:40:28.080 to tell you what what what's going on with me? Medically? 1:40:28.200 --> 1:40:32.040 And when you talk about authenticity, Um, it couldn't have 1:40:32.080 --> 1:40:35.280 been more than than that day that we went through that. Jack. 1:40:35.840 --> 1:40:37.880 There's billions of people that love Jack, but you know, 1:40:37.960 --> 1:40:40.479 the way he handled the way he felt over that 1:40:40.680 --> 1:40:44.400 was obviously something that I don't think I'll ever forget. 1:40:44.520 --> 1:40:48.200 So thank you for everything starting from that. How bless 1:40:48.240 --> 1:40:54.200 would you Bob everything over all the time. Back to 1:40:54.240 --> 1:40:57.280 Matt Haggerty on the industry rally around Tim rose Afford, 1:40:57.360 --> 1:41:00.600 I've been so impressed with the golf world on this. 1:41:02.160 --> 1:41:05.519 I've been so impressed with the the people in this space, 1:41:06.320 --> 1:41:08.080 whether it's the U s g A or the p 1:41:08.280 --> 1:41:14.839 G A Tour or the PGA of America. Um, Jim Nance, 1:41:17.479 --> 1:41:20.920 I mean, you know, it's a great it's a great industry, 1:41:21.240 --> 1:41:24.840 it's a great sport. It's a great sport. I think 1:41:24.880 --> 1:41:27.040 it's part of the reason why we're so attracted to 1:41:27.080 --> 1:41:29.080 the sport, and it's a great sport. We really do. 1:41:29.200 --> 1:41:32.960 I think, I do think we look out for our own. 1:41:33.000 --> 1:41:36.799 We look after our own, you know, and and and 1:41:36.800 --> 1:41:39.920 and when it's somebody like Tim, when it's the Legend, 1:41:40.000 --> 1:41:45.479 when it's the Godfather, even more so big bear hugs 1:41:45.520 --> 1:41:50.639 all the way around, Timie Diez. Could you describe him 1:41:50.680 --> 1:41:55.640 in one word? Huh? I always think of warmth. I know, 1:41:55.800 --> 1:41:57.839 you know, I just think a heart. I know his effort, 1:41:57.880 --> 1:42:03.360 and but I think what was so endearing and what 1:42:03.560 --> 1:42:07.880 formed his relationships and the relationships became the basis for 1:42:08.080 --> 1:42:13.479 his work, was the the ability to connect with people 1:42:13.760 --> 1:42:19.200 and too really have a relationship, to really be friends, 1:42:19.920 --> 1:42:25.200 you know, to put aside um, you know, the compartmentalization 1:42:25.240 --> 1:42:27.479 that we all do and work and in journalism very 1:42:27.520 --> 1:42:31.360 often even ask you to do that. He had a 1:42:31.360 --> 1:42:36.519 gift for for being friends, being able to write about people, 1:42:37.680 --> 1:42:43.040 still being professional and sometimes you know, having to temporarily 1:42:43.080 --> 1:42:46.960 at least wound that friendship, but always healing it because 1:42:47.200 --> 1:42:49.559 because Tim was a healer. Tim, you know, you couldn't 1:42:49.600 --> 1:42:51.920 stay mad at him, and he could get mad, but 1:42:52.000 --> 1:42:56.280 he wouldn't even stay mad forever either. Um. It just 1:42:56.320 --> 1:43:00.559 there was just a big heart and UM, great sentiment, 1:43:00.680 --> 1:43:04.679 great sense of the right thing to do and and 1:43:05.320 --> 1:43:08.080 the right way to treat people, and decency and just 1:43:08.120 --> 1:43:10.880 those virtues, those human virtues. I think that's what I 1:43:10.880 --> 1:43:14.479 think of because um, that's why I loved him. UM. 1:43:14.520 --> 1:43:16.320 You know, we all work, we all try to do 1:43:16.360 --> 1:43:19.200 our best in the end, that's not what defines us 1:43:19.520 --> 1:43:21.720 as much as the kind of people we are. And 1:43:21.760 --> 1:43:25.720 Tim was a special person and that you know, it's 1:43:25.760 --> 1:43:29.960 reflected by how many friends he has, UM, how many 1:43:30.000 --> 1:43:35.080 will loved him, Molly Solomon. He always wanted to get 1:43:35.120 --> 1:43:37.760 better and be the best at what he did. But 1:43:37.840 --> 1:43:41.400 in a really UM I used the word earnest to 1:43:41.520 --> 1:43:43.920 describe him. And when I went in the possaurus and 1:43:43.960 --> 1:43:46.680 looked up um and said, you know, is that the 1:43:46.720 --> 1:43:53.520 best way to described him? And besides ernest came up diligent, heartfelt, impassioned, 1:43:53.880 --> 1:43:59.479 purpose felt and sincere. Tim Rose support Jeff Russell. I mean, 1:43:59.720 --> 1:44:03.160 Jen told you know, UM, I mean one word, you know, 1:44:03.240 --> 1:44:09.880 he's he's um. UM. You know the word I would 1:44:09.920 --> 1:44:13.439 I would say, you know, just just like indefatigable, like 1:44:13.439 --> 1:44:18.519 like you couldn't um. You know you couldn't. You couldn't 1:44:18.520 --> 1:44:22.240 make him work hard enough. You couldn't. You couldn't outwork him, 1:44:22.280 --> 1:44:27.639 you know he so but but but as just gentle 1:44:27.840 --> 1:44:33.439 sweet kind um you know, good too, you know, never 1:44:33.760 --> 1:44:35.880 I don't think he really ever big time to anyone, 1:44:35.920 --> 1:44:38.559 good too, you know, always good to you know, you 1:44:38.600 --> 1:44:40.639 know I told you the story of him being nice 1:44:40.680 --> 1:44:43.000 to me when I was twenty five. Eventually I was 1:44:43.680 --> 1:44:48.800 eventually I was five, and the boss, you know, and 1:44:49.560 --> 1:44:52.880 and he would he would tell me about some other 1:44:52.960 --> 1:44:56.040 young kid who was just starting out in the you know, 1:44:56.120 --> 1:44:58.360 some hey, you know you ought to pay attention to 1:44:58.400 --> 1:45:00.240 that is so and so golf writer that you know. 1:45:00.479 --> 1:45:02.960 And I'd be like, who, like who you know? And 1:45:02.960 --> 1:45:05.320 and he'd be like, hey, hey, you know, like, don't 1:45:05.320 --> 1:45:08.760 be you know, I'm trying to I'm trying to help 1:45:08.800 --> 1:45:11.080 you here. You know, you might need to hire that 1:45:11.120 --> 1:45:14.519 guy someday, you know, you might want to. Um, I 1:45:14.520 --> 1:45:17.160 mean he never stopped, you know, he never stopped doing that. 1:45:17.680 --> 1:45:23.720 Jerry Tardy, Well, everybody uses it. It's it's trust. He 1:45:23.840 --> 1:45:28.519 had everybody's cell number. Everybody called him back. Um, you 1:45:28.640 --> 1:45:31.120 knew he was going to give you a fair shake 1:45:31.800 --> 1:45:35.240 and to use that old Bob Jones line. When he 1:45:35.280 --> 1:45:39.479 got the unfair shake of all, he still met life 1:45:39.479 --> 1:45:42.600 with a smile on his face and a gratefulness in 1:45:42.680 --> 1:45:46.280 his heart. And that's why we love everybody did the 1:45:46.320 --> 1:45:48.760 people he covered, the people who rode alongside him, the 1:45:48.800 --> 1:45:51.479 people who managed to try to manage him. But he 1:45:51.479 --> 1:45:54.600 didn't need any managing. He he marked. He marched to 1:45:54.640 --> 1:45:59.960 his own DRUMA Craig Dulch loyal, you know, I mean, 1:46:00.200 --> 1:46:02.840 I can't begin to tell you, you know, what he's done. 1:46:02.960 --> 1:46:04.840 I mean, it'd be hard to walk into a media 1:46:04.920 --> 1:46:07.760 center these days and not find someone that Tim has 1:46:07.920 --> 1:46:10.960 really played a huge role in their lives, you know, 1:46:11.040 --> 1:46:14.040 whether it was just some advice, whether it was making 1:46:14.040 --> 1:46:17.479 a phone call for somebody, writing somebody up on a resume, 1:46:17.680 --> 1:46:22.000 you know, a nice reference letter. For me, it always 1:46:22.000 --> 1:46:25.000 goes back to my son Eric. Eric almost died of 1:46:25.120 --> 1:46:28.759 nsetholitis in two thousand five, and it was a really, 1:46:28.840 --> 1:46:31.479 as you can imagine, a heartbreaking event, not only to 1:46:31.600 --> 1:46:34.120 have this happen, to have your healthy fourteen year old 1:46:34.120 --> 1:46:37.040 son go to completely disabled. We didn't know if he 1:46:37.120 --> 1:46:39.040 was going to live. We had no idea what we're 1:46:39.040 --> 1:46:41.439 going to do for the money, and Tim just took 1:46:41.439 --> 1:46:44.080 it upon himself to plan a fundraiser of the week 1:46:44.200 --> 1:46:47.280 Behind the Classic in two thousand and six, And all 1:46:47.280 --> 1:46:49.200 he ever asked for me was just some names of 1:46:49.280 --> 1:46:52.439 friends and family that I would want invited to it. 1:46:53.200 --> 1:46:55.519 And that's all I really did. At the time, I 1:46:55.560 --> 1:46:57.719 was living up in Boston, My son was in rehab 1:46:57.800 --> 1:47:00.400 up there, trying to get better, and we can down 1:47:00.400 --> 1:47:03.320 to the Monday before Behind the Classic, and Tim had 1:47:03.360 --> 1:47:05.760 this thing all planned at Old Palm. He'd done to 1:47:05.880 --> 1:47:09.600 Raymond Floyd and Maria Floyd and they had everything was 1:47:10.240 --> 1:47:12.960 picked up and the amount of money we received that 1:47:13.080 --> 1:47:16.080 night was overwhelming. I mean it enabled us to to 1:47:16.160 --> 1:47:20.000 buy a wheelchair accessible van to do the accommodations we 1:47:20.160 --> 1:47:22.720 had to do to our house before our son could 1:47:22.760 --> 1:47:25.280 come home. Uh. You know, just how do you say 1:47:25.320 --> 1:47:27.640 thank you to somebody who did something like that? And 1:47:27.760 --> 1:47:31.080 you say thank you when people opened the door for you. Uh, 1:47:31.120 --> 1:47:34.760 you know, it's just beyond amazing what he did. He 1:47:34.840 --> 1:47:38.000 never asked for anything, you know, he wasn't you know, Okay, 1:47:38.040 --> 1:47:40.760 I did this for you. You know that scratch your 1:47:40.800 --> 1:47:43.799 back that stuff. That's just what Tim did. And obviously 1:47:43.880 --> 1:47:46.400 my situation is a little unique, but I would think 1:47:46.760 --> 1:47:49.280 you and everyone else out there can think of countless 1:47:49.320 --> 1:47:52.160 times that Tim has done things for you. You know, 1:47:52.280 --> 1:47:55.120 even when it came to coming on the Gulf Channel. 1:47:55.120 --> 1:47:57.519 We had a radio show every Sunday morning for eight 1:47:57.600 --> 1:47:59.479 nine years, and every once in a while, I'm like, 1:48:00.080 --> 1:48:01.960 I hate to do this, but I'm gonna ask him again. 1:48:01.960 --> 1:48:05.200 And Tim never said no. He was always willing to 1:48:05.240 --> 1:48:08.519 split to spend those ten fifteen minutes. You know. As 1:48:08.560 --> 1:48:12.840 as successful as Tim McCain, he never really lost his 1:48:12.840 --> 1:48:15.760 his presence as a down to earth individual and he 1:48:15.840 --> 1:48:19.760 cared about people. Phil Nicholson classes the way I would 1:48:19.800 --> 1:48:23.519 describe him because of the way he treated people, handled himself. 1:48:23.920 --> 1:48:26.439 Everything he did was with class, whether it was his family, 1:48:26.600 --> 1:48:31.320 his career, his friends. He uh, he just always handled 1:48:31.400 --> 1:48:37.720 himself with such dignity in class. John Hawkins dogged D 1:48:38.160 --> 1:48:45.160 g E D. And I mean that as somebody who's 1:48:45.200 --> 1:48:52.479 not dogged. Uh. Tim was the greatest partner you could 1:48:52.520 --> 1:48:59.160 ever have, at least I could. I mean just astounding them, haven't. Tim? 1:49:00.000 --> 1:49:03.760 Hoarding your story was like having rock call Welch is 1:49:03.800 --> 1:49:09.840 your waitress. It's like I can't do any better than that. 1:49:10.400 --> 1:49:15.559 Here's Damon Heck, a giant of golf journalism, someone who 1:49:15.960 --> 1:49:19.040 I read before I met, which was pretty cool to 1:49:19.240 --> 1:49:21.600 finally meet him. I mean, I read his Raising the 1:49:21.640 --> 1:49:26.240 bar on Tiger uh back in two thousand, kind of 1:49:26.280 --> 1:49:29.879 giving us an inside look to to the greatness of Tiger, 1:49:30.080 --> 1:49:32.800 and I'm reading this guy, I'm thinking, Man, this guy 1:49:32.880 --> 1:49:34.760 is someone who I want to be. This is a 1:49:34.800 --> 1:49:38.679 great writer, a great reporter. Uh. You could tell how 1:49:38.800 --> 1:49:41.479 tireless he was in his research. And then to finally 1:49:41.520 --> 1:49:44.679 meet him in the early two thousand's when I started 1:49:44.680 --> 1:49:50.240 covering golf for Newsday and to share press rooms with him, 1:49:50.280 --> 1:49:55.759 just so impressive, larger than life, intense, but a teddy 1:49:55.800 --> 1:49:59.120 bear at the same time, someone who could, you know, 1:49:59.200 --> 1:50:04.280 host a golf writer's dinner at Augusta National and make 1:50:04.400 --> 1:50:07.000 us laugh and not miss a beat. To someone who 1:50:07.080 --> 1:50:11.679 could ask Tiger or Jack or Arnie the toughest question 1:50:12.320 --> 1:50:16.320 and didn't get a great answer. Um. I loved working 1:50:16.320 --> 1:50:20.080 with him at Golf Channel. Someone who was so meticulous 1:50:20.120 --> 1:50:24.679 and insensitive to and for, someone who is a giant 1:50:24.720 --> 1:50:28.200 of our game and journalism, would sometimes have, you know, 1:50:28.320 --> 1:50:32.720 little fits of vulnerability and damon, how did that go? 1:50:32.880 --> 1:50:35.080 Did I do a good job? I'm like, man, I 1:50:35.120 --> 1:50:38.440 would say, Tim, you just beat Tim. Nobody has your Rolodex, 1:50:38.800 --> 1:50:41.519 nobody has your reach in the game. You know, no 1:50:41.560 --> 1:50:43.559 one else can say, you know, I spoke to Tiger, 1:50:43.640 --> 1:50:48.120 I spoke to Jack or find you know, Peter bald 1:50:48.160 --> 1:50:51.559 Naldi's childhood swing coach. Or I just talked to the 1:50:51.600 --> 1:50:56.360 head pro at Tyler Duncan's club, you know in Indiana. 1:50:56.479 --> 1:51:00.280 I mean, the guy just his reach was just breathtaking 1:51:00.800 --> 1:51:03.640 and so cool to grow up reading someone that s 1:51:03.680 --> 1:51:06.120 I and Golf Digest and read his books, and then 1:51:06.160 --> 1:51:10.160 to be able to share a morning meeting with Tim Roseford. 1:51:10.560 --> 1:51:13.559 I would walk by, you know, at his desking golf channel. 1:51:13.600 --> 1:51:16.400 I would just say, there's the legend, there's the legend 1:51:16.439 --> 1:51:19.639 that he used us whatever. Alright, alright, But I knew 1:51:19.640 --> 1:51:22.840 he liked it too at a certain level, because he 1:51:22.840 --> 1:51:25.960 he is a legend, a giant of golf journalism. I 1:51:26.320 --> 1:51:30.479 love I love Rosy Lovel, Matt Haggerdy. You know, I 1:51:30.560 --> 1:51:33.800 just think everybody trusted him that he was, that it 1:51:33.960 --> 1:51:36.519 was going to be fair like it might. It wasn't 1:51:36.520 --> 1:51:39.720 always gonna be what you didn't always it wasn't like 1:51:39.760 --> 1:51:42.920 whoever he was reporting on or whatever he was reporting about. 1:51:43.240 --> 1:51:46.120 There was obviously, you know, in certain circumstances. It wasn't 1:51:46.120 --> 1:51:48.519 going to make everybody happy. You know, it wasn't gonna 1:51:48.560 --> 1:51:54.599 make everybody happy, but it was gonna be fair. And 1:51:54.640 --> 1:51:57.360 I think at the end of the day, that's I 1:51:57.400 --> 1:52:00.840 think that's what everybody wants. They want to be treated fairly, right, 1:52:00.920 --> 1:52:04.840 and Jim treated everybody fairly and run syrac. Tim and 1:52:04.880 --> 1:52:07.160 I are about the same age. In fact, he's younger 1:52:07.160 --> 1:52:08.800 than me. I think he's five years younger than me, 1:52:09.200 --> 1:52:13.040 and which when all this breakfest was like bone chilling 1:52:13.120 --> 1:52:16.640 for me. Uh so we were sort of of the 1:52:16.680 --> 1:52:19.840 same generation. But talk to somebody who's twenty years younger 1:52:19.840 --> 1:52:22.000 than him, and one of the things that they'll tell 1:52:22.040 --> 1:52:24.680 you is how generous he was with his time, how 1:52:24.720 --> 1:52:27.759 generous he was with his contacts. He would help people, 1:52:28.479 --> 1:52:31.160 he would he would give he would give young writers advice, 1:52:31.520 --> 1:52:34.640 he would share contacts with with the young writers to 1:52:34.680 --> 1:52:38.400 help them on a story. So there was not only 1:52:38.439 --> 1:52:41.600 an innate fairness in the man, an innate goodness in 1:52:41.640 --> 1:52:45.679 the man. Here's Gary Williams. He always did the right thing, Matt, 1:52:45.720 --> 1:52:50.320 because you know what, never burned one person. Nobody ever 1:52:50.400 --> 1:52:53.760 turned their back on him. And the lines of communication 1:52:53.840 --> 1:52:57.960 with tim and every interview subject or every important figure 1:52:57.960 --> 1:53:01.200 in the game of golf was always wide open. That 1:53:01.360 --> 1:53:05.720 never changed. It never changed. And and for somebody who 1:53:05.800 --> 1:53:07.920 loved the game of golf, God, I wish the game 1:53:07.960 --> 1:53:13.600 loved him a little bit more. Back I played in 1:53:13.680 --> 1:53:17.080 one member Guests with the man one member guest. He 1:53:17.120 --> 1:53:19.639 invites me to medalists to play in the member guest 1:53:20.120 --> 1:53:27.160 in and Jordan's playing Tigers, playing Keickan Bradley and Mater Shan, 1:53:27.840 --> 1:53:32.160 and he is so uptight. The practice round we play 1:53:32.240 --> 1:53:35.360 with Ken Kennerley, who's a dear life fog friend of mine, 1:53:35.800 --> 1:53:39.200 and his guests, and and on the second tea he 1:53:39.280 --> 1:53:47.080 starts with, I'm sorry, You're sorry. We played one. Oh, 1:53:47.360 --> 1:53:55.439 Davis saysna tim Uh became a golfer reporting on golf, 1:53:56.640 --> 1:53:59.960 and I must say he was a much better report 1:54:01.040 --> 1:54:07.400 than he is a golfer. That the truth. He's like 1:54:07.439 --> 1:54:10.679 a plus eight and reported, he's like an eighteen time 1:54:10.800 --> 1:54:14.720 major champion of reporting. But he's poor. Guys struggles on 1:54:14.760 --> 1:54:16.600 the under guard. I think he got as probably as 1:54:16.680 --> 1:54:20.320 low as about an eight handicap. I think is uh, well, 1:54:20.360 --> 1:54:22.880 he's so he's so competitive. But every time I say 1:54:22.920 --> 1:54:25.200 H'm going to hit a shot, I I feel like 1:54:25.240 --> 1:54:26.880 the Wizard of Oz. I want to go get the 1:54:26.920 --> 1:54:35.520 oil can. He's laughing right now too. I can tell 1:54:35.520 --> 1:54:41.280 you that more from Phil Nicholson, his legacy is how 1:54:42.480 --> 1:54:46.880 and the way he'll be remembered will be how he 1:54:46.960 --> 1:54:52.480 made you feel, because he would gather knowledge, gather information, presented, 1:54:52.560 --> 1:54:55.440 do his job and transcend into his business, be the 1:54:55.480 --> 1:54:58.800 best of what he did. But he would always make 1:54:58.840 --> 1:55:01.760 you feel good and positive about it. He was never 1:55:01.800 --> 1:55:04.600 trying to take unnecessary shots. He would always try to 1:55:04.720 --> 1:55:07.760 present facts in a very sensitive way. And I think 1:55:08.640 --> 1:55:12.040 that his legacy is going to be the way he 1:55:12.120 --> 1:55:14.680 made you feel when you are around. Did you ever 1:55:14.720 --> 1:55:20.600 see his golf swing? I have, and I've I've tried 1:55:20.640 --> 1:55:27.400 to suppress that memory. Of all the memories we have, 1:55:27.920 --> 1:55:30.000 not many of us are gonna try to remember his 1:55:30.000 --> 1:55:37.920 his eloquent golfing. I guess exactly. Tim always wore me 1:55:38.040 --> 1:55:42.080 out because we played each other once in a member 1:55:42.120 --> 1:55:45.360 member tournament at the Floridian and he he and his 1:55:45.480 --> 1:55:48.680 partner beat me and my partners. So I have never 1:55:48.800 --> 1:55:51.720 lived that down that I lost a match to Tim 1:55:51.840 --> 1:55:54.200 rose Afort. I mean, the probably the lowest point of 1:55:54.280 --> 1:55:57.440 my career, that I lost a match to Tim rose Aport. 1:55:57.640 --> 1:55:59.600 I don't I don't know how he gets worse than that. 1:56:00.400 --> 1:56:05.120 Um he could not play, yeah he could, but he 1:56:05.200 --> 1:56:08.840 loved the game. And he's a dear friend. I miss him. 1:56:08.880 --> 1:56:11.160 I'm missing him and I want to wish him all 1:56:11.160 --> 1:56:14.160 the best because and he does he has want to 1:56:14.200 --> 1:56:16.240 know against me, and so that that will stick with 1:56:16.320 --> 1:56:20.120 me forever. Mark Moulvoy, thank you so much for asking 1:56:20.160 --> 1:56:22.680 me to do this to me. Was a treasure. I 1:56:22.720 --> 1:56:24.800 loved every all the moments we spent with him. Uh. 1:56:25.440 --> 1:56:28.400 We had a very heartfelt I said a very heartfelt 1:56:28.400 --> 1:56:31.280 goodbye last year. I thought, you know it was it 1:56:31.360 --> 1:56:35.000 was coming, and unfortunately we seem to be at that moment. 1:56:35.760 --> 1:56:39.040 God bless him. He's a great guy. He'll be always 1:56:39.040 --> 1:56:41.160 have fond memories of him and what he did for me, 1:56:41.240 --> 1:56:44.080 what he did for Sports Illustrated and what he obviously 1:56:44.120 --> 1:56:48.080 did for Golf, World Golf and Digest and also for television. 1:56:48.120 --> 1:56:51.160 I mean when's the last time somebody on television told 1:56:51.200 --> 1:56:54.280 you things about people that not even the people knew. 1:56:54.680 --> 1:56:58.040 Nobody does that anymore, reporting as a lost art again, 1:56:58.280 --> 1:57:02.120 Jerry Tardy. It really, in my mind was the nineties. 1:57:02.240 --> 1:57:04.880 It build up to it in the latter half of 1:57:04.920 --> 1:57:09.760 the eighties, but it was a golden age of journalism 1:57:09.800 --> 1:57:13.720 when you look back at the number of writers who 1:57:13.760 --> 1:57:18.600 were had come together and sat at our table, from 1:57:18.640 --> 1:57:23.920 you know, at the end of her Wind and Alistair Cook, 1:57:24.720 --> 1:57:30.080 um Ptword, Thomas Uh, certainly, Peter Debriner one of the 1:57:30.080 --> 1:57:34.200 great poets of the game, but Dan Jenkins joining us, 1:57:34.280 --> 1:57:41.280 Charlie Price, Tom Callahan, Uh, and then Dave Kindred, Peter Andrews, 1:57:41.440 --> 1:57:46.080 the start of of High me Diaz, and Tim rose Afford. 1:57:46.800 --> 1:57:52.040 Tim brought a different step than any of those others, Um, 1:57:52.080 --> 1:57:55.000 but he was right there at the top in terms 1:57:55.320 --> 1:57:59.600 of respect, and I think there was there was what 1:57:59.640 --> 1:58:03.400 you talked about, that that humility, that vulnerability that he 1:58:03.520 --> 1:58:06.960 had because he had been kicked around as a writer, 1:58:07.920 --> 1:58:13.480 that he brought preparation to the table like nobody else, 1:58:14.560 --> 1:58:21.200 and all those great voices would would quiet when Tim 1:58:21.240 --> 1:58:25.560 talked because he had the real stuff. Um they could 1:58:25.560 --> 1:58:28.400 take it and make it into poetry some of them 1:58:28.960 --> 1:58:34.320 um and they could make it funny and but but 1:58:35.360 --> 1:58:44.080 Tim was was such a believable humble guy that that 1:58:44.240 --> 1:58:48.760 just carried tremendous respect. Craig. I can't tell you how 1:58:48.800 --> 1:58:52.000 many times I'd walked into the PJ National entrance and 1:58:52.200 --> 1:58:55.280 go into a Honda cover of the day's tournament and 1:58:55.320 --> 1:58:57.280 we'd be headed to the media center. I'll be there 1:58:57.320 --> 1:58:59.720 with Tim, and I would never make it there with 1:59:00.160 --> 1:59:03.640 because after about halfway through the lobby, everyone's like, hey, 1:59:03.720 --> 1:59:06.200 Tim Rosie, you know, and I'm like looking, I'm like, 1:59:06.320 --> 1:59:08.080 how do you know all these people? How do you 1:59:08.120 --> 1:59:10.400 remember all these people? And he said something that was 1:59:10.520 --> 1:59:12.960 very I thought was very interesting. Well, he said, it's 1:59:13.000 --> 1:59:15.280 like a p J professional, you know, when you go 1:59:15.360 --> 1:59:17.440 to work in the morning and a member walks in 1:59:17.480 --> 1:59:19.680 the door at seven oh five in the morn and 1:59:20.040 --> 1:59:22.360 you better know who their name is. And I think 1:59:22.400 --> 1:59:24.720 that gets back to kind of what we've talked about. 1:59:24.760 --> 1:59:27.240 Tim is his work and like ethic. You know, he 1:59:27.280 --> 1:59:30.280 was a guy that stayed at some really you know, 1:59:30.360 --> 1:59:32.920 got to do some very special things in his life, 1:59:32.920 --> 1:59:35.200 but he was still a nine to five kind of 1:59:35.240 --> 1:59:38.320 guy who punched the clock every day, who worked as 1:59:38.360 --> 1:59:41.240 hard as he could, and who wanted to know your name. 1:59:41.280 --> 1:59:43.000 And I've had a lot of friends telling me that 1:59:43.200 --> 1:59:46.040 is I'm surprised him remembers my name. You know, I'm 1:59:46.040 --> 1:59:48.520 not a big shot, but that's the way Tim was. 1:59:48.600 --> 1:59:51.520 Tim remembered everybody's name. And because of that, I think 1:59:51.560 --> 1:59:55.160 we're always gonna always remember Tim rose Afford's name. And 1:59:55.200 --> 1:59:57.560 we ended all with Jeff Russell. You know, you'd get 1:59:57.600 --> 1:59:58.920 to the end of the year and you count up 1:59:58.920 --> 2:00:01.560 the byelines. Nobody had as many bylines as he did. 2:00:01.680 --> 2:00:07.560 And and um, you know, he he just was always, 2:00:08.160 --> 2:00:11.920 you know, always working, always always on it. And and 2:00:12.000 --> 2:00:15.000 I think doing you know, doing it because he was 2:00:15.880 --> 2:00:18.880 he was. It was a kind of a mixture of 2:00:18.960 --> 2:00:21.560 he loved doing it, and I think he he also 2:00:21.680 --> 2:00:25.760 knew that he'd come a long way from from what 2:00:25.920 --> 2:00:27.440 is you know, the life his father had, you know, 2:00:27.480 --> 2:00:29.840 and his his family had and that and you know 2:00:31.000 --> 2:00:33.880 in uh in New York. Yeah, I mean I think 2:00:34.040 --> 2:00:36.160 I couldn't believe, you know, I think he reached it. 2:00:36.160 --> 2:00:37.760 He was like, I can't believe I'm here in South 2:00:37.800 --> 2:00:41.200 Florida where it's you know, sunshine through in sixty five 2:00:41.280 --> 2:00:45.240 days a year, and I'm playing golf and and I'm 2:00:45.320 --> 2:00:47.640 just you know, I don't ever want it to end. 2:00:47.880 --> 2:00:49.560 I don't ever want it to end. It's just an 2:00:49.560 --> 2:01:08.280 amazing life. Put another log on the fire. Nobody hears 2:01:08.800 --> 2:01:20.040 getting tired, Settle down, and settle in. The story is 2:01:20.240 --> 2:01:30.919 about to begin, the circles starting to tickets, shape seats 2:01:30.920 --> 2:01:39.400 the field, and the tired sun plans and escape, and 2:01:39.560 --> 2:01:46.440 everybody's got some glory. Just wait, unto unphoned. Everybody's got 2:01:46.560 --> 2:01:53.480 some story. Just wait until be too. The place for 2:01:53.640 --> 2:02:03.000 that is here. All those smiles and loose teas, let 2:02:03.080 --> 2:02:15.000 them go. Put another log on the fig. Nobody hears 2:02:15.000 --> 2:02:26.160 getting tired, Settle down, and settle in. The story is 2:02:26.280 --> 2:02:36.840 about to begin. Tales were told of warring, going lover 2:02:37.040 --> 2:02:46.000 is lost in a lifetimes dreams ours so and maybe 2:02:46.040 --> 2:02:49.360 you should stop in the sun at the wisdom and 2:02:49.600 --> 2:02:54.560 the baby. You should pour your heart out. We ain't 2:02:54.600 --> 2:03:05.080 go in anywhere. I'd your mercy in the sound as 2:03:05.120 --> 2:03:45.600 the smoke gets pushed around in your soul. Put another 2:03:45.760 --> 2:03:58.879 log on fire. Nobody hears getting tired, Settle down and 2:03:59.000 --> 2:04:09.640 st m the story hears about to begin, the story 2:04:09.760 --> 2:04:17.960 hears about to begin, the story hears about to begin.