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Welcome to my show. 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: Now before we get going, I need you to imagine something, 21 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: all right, I need to picture something in your mind. 22 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: I need you to picture There's a country in Africa 23 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: and this country's head, it's leader. He has his interior 24 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: police force as most countries do, and he has his 25 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: exterior spy force. Right. You got the head of this country, 26 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: interior police force, exterior spy force. The head of this country. 27 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: All of a sudden we find out he has been 28 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: using both the interior police force and the exterior spy 29 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: force to legally go after his political opponent. What would 30 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: you do? What would you think if you heard that? 31 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: You know what you do. I'll tell you what you do. 32 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: But if you don't want to admit it, you go. Man. 33 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: That's typical over there. Third world place can't get its 34 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: act together. Completely corrupt. Let's just ridic that was here. 35 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: That took place in the United States of America, and 36 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: none of that's an exaggeration. I think about this. In 37 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: the United States of America, our CIA worked with our FBI, 38 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: our federal law enforcement arm, under either the direct supervision 39 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: or knowledge of President Barack Obama, to get an illegal 40 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: wire tap from the FI succord to spy a Donald 41 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: Trump's campaign. I understand we are facing massive issues right 42 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: now in the United States. We are we have a 43 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: coronavirus pandemic we're still trying to put down. We have 44 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: fifty sixty million jobs at least gone. I know the 45 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: official numbers forty, but we all know it's a lot 46 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: higher than that. We have this horrible situation that's been 47 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: taken place this past week in Minnesota. There's always a 48 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: new news story out there distracting you. There's something new 49 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: out here. There is no bigger deal in the United 50 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: States than if all of what we think is true 51 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: right now turns out to be a fact. And as 52 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: of this moment, there's not even a reasonable there's no 53 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: reason to assume it's not. We know that Hillary Clinton's 54 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: campaign chose to use a firm and told this firm 55 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: to get dirt on Donald Trump. They went and found 56 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: a disgraced mind you, a disgraced foreign intelligence agent to 57 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: put together a dossier of dirt on Donald Trump. He 58 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: then sticks a bunch of lies in the dossier, brings 59 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: it back. That dossier makes its way into the hands 60 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, who takes it down 61 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: to the FIS Court, the Phis, the court that's supposed 62 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: to be sacred. Mind you, that's why it's a secretive court. 63 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: It's a sacred court. It's very very secretive. We're spying 64 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: on American citizens. We have got to do this by 65 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: the letter of the law. And they took this garbage 66 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: information and it defies the court to spy on Trump's campaign. 67 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,559 Speaker 1: That is by far the biggest scandal in the history 68 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: of the United States of America. And we still don't 69 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: know exactly who did what yet. We're still in the 70 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: middle of this big investigation and it looks really, really bad, 71 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: really bad. Think a look at this. So the DC 72 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: Circuit has invited the Department of Justice to weigh in, 73 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: and we will do so. We will reiterate the arguments 74 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: we made in our brief below which we believe this 75 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: case should be dropped, and certainly, as the prosecutors in 76 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: the case, as the Department of Justice, we have the 77 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: prosecutorial discretion to make that decision. And Sean Jeff Jensen, 78 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: he's the US attorney who the AG appointed to review 79 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: the Flint case. Ten years a career prosecutor, spent ten 80 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: years also in the FBA when he completed his review 81 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: of the Flint case, he told the Attorney General that, 82 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: based on what we now know, he does not believe 83 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: that any one of our ninety three US attorneys in 84 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: the country would have continued to prosecute this case. Ponder 85 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: what she just said. There for a moment, they took 86 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: down Michael Flynn. They took down a man by any measure, 87 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: whether you're on the right or the left, you look 88 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: at this man's military record, by any measure, an American hero. 89 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: They took him down with nothing, just because they wanted 90 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: to take him down. That is the exact thing that's 91 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: not supposed to be able to happen in the United 92 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: States of America. You know that Lady Liberty thing where 93 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: she's wearing the blindfold. Justice is blood, due process. None 94 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: of them would have prosecuted this case. And yet Michael 95 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: Flynn has his reputation destroyed, gets prosecuted for this. This 96 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: is a big deal, a big deal. Trump, at least 97 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: to his credit, seems to be taking it really seriously. 98 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: It is a disgrace what's happened. This is the greatest 99 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: political scam hoax in the history of our country. People 100 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: should be going to jail for this stuff, and hopefully 101 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people are going to have to pay. 102 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: No other president should have to go through. And I'll 103 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: tell you, General Flynn and others are heroes. Heroes because 104 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: what's happened to them. They weren't after General Flynn. They 105 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: wanted him to lie about me, make up a story, 106 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: and with few exceptions, nobody did that. There were many people. 107 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: I watched Katie McFarland the other day. I watch where 108 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: she was knock Knock FBI, you know, the FBI. Okay, 109 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 1: this was all Obama, This was all Biden. These people 110 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: were corrupt. The whole thing was corrupt, and we caught them. 111 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: And that's the problem. And he's one hundred percent right there. 112 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: This is not just the United States President. This is 113 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: the Federal law Enforcement Arm, the federal law enforcement Arm. 114 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: With all due respect to somebody who lives in a 115 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: small town, because look, I've lived most of my life 116 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: in small towns. I'm not putting anyone down. This is 117 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: not some small town police department getting caught up in 118 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: a pay for play corruption scheme. This is the Federal 119 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: Bureau of Investigation. If you're in the Federal Bureau of Investigation, 120 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: you don't get to have an oopsie guess we picked 121 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: sides in the election moment. Someone has to burn for 122 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: this in Obama, after getting busted with all this, the 123 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: arrogance on this guy, after getting busted with all this, 124 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: Obama's mad. Flynn's gonna get out of it. There is 125 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 1: no president that anybody can find someone who's been charged 126 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: with perjury just getting off scott free. That's the kind 127 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: of where you begin to get worried for basic understanding 128 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: of a rule of law is a risk. Yeah, does 129 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: not look good for him. A G. Barr though to look, 130 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: he's done a great job. I don't mean to be 131 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: salty about it. Says we're not doing tip for tap. 132 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: The law enforcement and intelligence apparatus of this country were 133 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: involved in advancing a false and utterly baseless Russian collusion 134 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: narrative against the president. The proper investigative and prosecutive standards 135 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: of the Department of Justice were abused, in my view, 136 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: in order to reach a particular result. We saw two 137 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: different standards of justice emerge, one that applied to President 138 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: Trump and his associates and the other that applied to 139 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: everybody else. We can't allow this ever to happen again. 140 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: The Durham investigation is trying to get to the bottom 141 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: of what happened, and it will determine whether there were 142 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: any federal laws broken, and if there were, those who 143 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: broke the laws will be held to account. But this 144 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: cannot be and it will not be a tit for 145 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:29,599 Speaker 1: tat exercise. We are not going to lower the standards 146 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: just to achieve a result. The only way to stop 147 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 1: this vicious cycle, the only way to break away from 148 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: a dual system of justice is to make sure that 149 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: we scrupulously apply the single and proper standard of justice 150 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: for everybody. I have no issue with all that. My 151 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: only issue is this tit for tat won't be a 152 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: tit for tat is fine. I want him to go 153 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: by the letter of the law. I don't want to 154 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: operate like them. However, what I'm worried about. He does 155 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: not sound like he wants to do this, mind you. 156 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: But what I'm really really worried about when it comes 157 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: to everything we're dealing with here, I'm worried about letting 158 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: off the Left for what they did because we want 159 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: it to look nice, because well, we don't want to 160 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: do what they did. We're better than that. No, if 161 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: somebody committed a crime using the power of the government 162 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: against their political opponent, that somebody has to go to 163 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: federal prison. And I don't want to hear we're taking 164 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: away his pension. I don't want to hear we're well, 165 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: we've destroyed his reputation, that somebody has to go to 166 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: federal prison. Otherwise, you don't take it seriously. Don't tell 167 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: me how seriously you take it. Show me how serious 168 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: did you take. All of that may have made you uncomfortable, 169 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: but I'm right now. What you need after that, but 170 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: you're gonna need to night and every other night in 171 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: the future, is a good night's sleep. You need an 172 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: EBB sleep. You need you need it because it targets 173 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: the reason you actually can't sleep. And I have news 174 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: for you. 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Code Jesse at 185 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: checkout gets you twenty five bucks off. We got a 186 00:11:43,600 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: ton of great show for you. Hang on joining me now. 187 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: Sydney Powe, the lawyer for Michael Flynn, an author of 188 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: License to Lie to Be Honest, a book you should 189 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: have already read, so go get it, Sidney. Before we 190 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: begin with all the other festivities here with what happened 191 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: under Barack Obama. What is Michael Flynn doing as we speak? 192 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people were unaware. Is he 193 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: on a vacation in Spain? Is he buried under a 194 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: federal prison? What's going on with Michael Flynn? He is 195 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 1: at his home in the upper northeast part of the country, 196 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: and hopefully he's outsurfing today. Let's hope he is. Okay. 197 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: I think everybody pretty much is caught up on the 198 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: gross injustice that was done to this man. You are 199 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: his lawyer. You're also before you were even his lawyer. 200 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: One of the most knowledgeable people I've known on this stuff. 201 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: Why why go after Michael Flynn? Well, it was there 202 00:12:55,679 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: were multiple reasons. First of all, he Obama hated his guts. 203 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: He had spoken out when he was head of Obama's 204 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: Defense Intelligence Agency, testifying truthfully in front of Congress about 205 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: the rise of ISIS and how Obama had mischaracterized it, 206 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: and it was a huge problem. He was outspoken about 207 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: the Benghazi incident. He was outspoken about the war in 208 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: Afghanistan and what a disaster that was. In fact, the 209 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: Washington Post now has a lengthy interview up that was 210 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: done of him as part of their Afghanistan papers when 211 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: he was interviewed by a government agent on that. And 212 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: he just knows so much about everything that was going 213 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: wrong during the Alabama administration and what needs to be 214 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: done to fix it. He was going to audit the 215 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: Intel agencies. He knew that they were running billions of 216 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: dollars in off book operations, were bloated, money was being 217 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: used right and left. He knows that the Office of 218 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: Net Assessment and the Pentagon hasn't done a net assessment 219 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: in ten years or so. And of course Adam Lovenger 220 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: wrote a valid whistleblower complain about that and was of 221 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: course punished for it. I mean, there's one thing after 222 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: the other. He knows a lot about what's wrong and 223 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: what's needed to fix it. He sounds like a man 224 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: who was getting ready to expose or trying to expose 225 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: some very very powerful people, and they took him down. 226 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: But this is the United States of America. That's not 227 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: supposed to be able to happen here. Why did it 228 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: happen here? Well, it happened because it was very deliberate, 229 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: very well orchestrated, carefully planned and executed for the most part, 230 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: And if Donald Trump had not won the election, it 231 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: still would not have been discovered. And a lot of 232 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: people had to do a lot of work, including Congressman 233 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: like Devin Nunez who started digging in this early on, 234 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: and a lot of frankly Twitter investigators that have been 235 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: very active in looking for the truth and reading the 236 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: actual documents to see what was exposed in them Inspector 237 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: General's report. I mean there, you know, it's been a 238 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: multifaceted approach to trying to figure out the truth, and 239 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: it's taken us a lot of people all these years now, 240 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: three or four years to sort it out and really 241 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: start exposing it. And of course mister Jensen has done 242 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: a lot as the US attorney reviewing the Flynn case. 243 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: If Attorney General bar had not appointed him, the government 244 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: would still be hiding the evidence that shows General Flynn 245 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: as innocent. In fact, there's even more that we're still 246 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: waiting on that they're probably using for other investigations, and 247 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: that might explain why we don't have it yet. And 248 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: of course now the Judge Sullivan has invited a Friends 249 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: of the Court to file briefs and we're getting all 250 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: kinds of things in under that category, including some rather 251 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: unusual applications to intervene in the case. And the DC 252 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: Circuit is looking at our rid of mandamus to tell 253 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: Judge Sullivan what he really has to do is dismissing it, 254 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: because the government has moved to dismiss it, just like 255 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: they did in the Ted Stevens case when Eric Holder 256 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: was Attorney General and mister Judge Sullivan dismissed that right away. 257 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: He didn't appoint an immedia to investigate that. I don't 258 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: mean to interrupt you, but you went right over my 259 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: head when you said friends of the Court and submit. 260 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: What is a friend of the court. What's a submittal? 261 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: Explain that for stupid people like me. Well, we found 262 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: what's called a petition for rid of mandamus, which is 263 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: an emergency motion essentially to the Court of Appeals when 264 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: a judge has acted without jurisdiction or without authority under 265 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: the law to do what it is he did, and 266 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: the appellate court, the DC Circuit has the case now 267 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: on our petition at asking them to tell Judge Sullivan 268 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: he cannot appoint friends of the court to represent his 269 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: position apparently, which is that General Flynn needs to be 270 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: prosecuted for something, and he cannot invite other people to 271 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: participate as friends of the court in a criminal case 272 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: in the district court. There's simply no provision for that 273 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: in the rules or whatever. And a friend of the 274 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: court or a mess it's called in Latin for the plural, 275 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: or amicus cure for the singular, is somebody who has 276 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: some sort of interest in the case that's allowed to 277 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: take a position in it for some reason. It happens 278 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: often in courts of appeals, but not in district courts, 279 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: and certainly not in district courts in criminal cases, as 280 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: Judge Sullivan bizarrely invited here because the governments to dismiss it. Sidney, 281 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: I keep hearing names obviously that everybody knows by now, 282 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: John Brennan, James Coomey, James Clapper, all these people. Brennan 283 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: is the one that always really really really stood out 284 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: to me because even if you can make the argument, 285 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: which I would not, that Comey was just haplessly going 286 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: along with some investigation, whoops, fell into it. Brennan was CIA, 287 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: not FBI, and what universe could he be involved in 288 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: this in any way? Because that's domestic right right, And 289 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: we know that it started with overseas operations. I mean, 290 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: this was run like a counterintelligence operation against a foreign 291 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: dictator or something. They seeded information with friendly foreigners and 292 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: then worked it back into the United States in different ways, 293 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: luring Papadopolis to London, luring Carter Page to London, myths 294 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: the guy from Italy that had some role in it. 295 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of things that were done, 296 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: and of course all of it kind of traces back 297 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: to Brennan and five Eyes, the multi agency cooperative group 298 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: for intelligence sharing among democracies, supposedly, and there's also an organization, 299 00:18:55,119 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: a private organization called Calculate or something like that in England, 300 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: and there are a lot of connections that tie into that. 301 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up, and obviously don't want 302 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: you speak out of turn here, But England, I continue 303 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: to hear these ties that lead back to England lead 304 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: back to the UK in some way. Surely their government 305 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: wasn't involved in this nasty bit of business in some way, right, 306 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: this was just private companies over there. I don't think 307 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: it was just private companies. I think there was some 308 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: involvement from m I five or m I six, and 309 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: you know, we I hope mister Durham, the US attorney 310 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: from Connecticut who's investigating the whole thing, figures out how 311 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: they were involved and how deep it went. But I 312 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: think I think there was some official government involvement because 313 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: one of the things that's missing from the Flynn case 314 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: is a letter that was hand delivered from the British 315 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: consulate to the incoming National security team on January tenth, 316 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: I believe, of twenty seventeen, completely disavowing Christopher Steele and 317 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 1: and telling everybody not to pay any attention to anything 318 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: he said because he was incredible and that letter would 319 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: have been also delivered to Susan Rice, but nobody can 320 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: seem to find a copy of it. What was Susan 321 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: Rice's role in all this? I think she was very involved. 322 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: She did a lot of the unmasking. She orchestrated a 323 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: lot of it with mister Brennan. She had to have 324 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: been heavily involved. She was in the January fifth meeting 325 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: in the Oval Office with President Obama, Sally Yates, Brennan, 326 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: Clapper Comey, right before they dispatched him Comey to New 327 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: York to brief incoming President Trump on only the salacious 328 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: aspects of the dossier so they could set the news 329 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: hook for BuzzFeed and CNN to run with the whole 330 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: Steel dossier Blogoney, I mean as National Security advisor, she 331 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: was the one interfacing with General Flynn on the transition. 332 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: She knew they were hiding stuff from him. Oh In 333 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: another big reason they couldn't have him, an say, is 334 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: because he would have uncovered all of this very quickly, 335 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: very quickly, in another two weeks, he probably would have 336 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: uncovered all of their massive abuses of the intelligence surveillance 337 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: capability of the country, whether it was a legal system 338 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: or even possibly an illegal system they had set up 339 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: that Brennan and Clapper and Muller and all those guys 340 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: had set up a while back. I mean they were 341 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: They were mining the NSA database as if it was 342 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: their own personal, private encyclopedia of everything they wanted on 343 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: any American Sydney. Finally, people do not understand how the 344 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: law process works. For the most part. People are looking 345 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: at Drham. You brought up Drham. He has this excellent reputation, 346 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: who welcome to correct me if I'm wrong as a 347 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: man who digs and finds the truth. But people want 348 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: to know when are we going to find out something? 349 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: When is this thing going to end? How long do 350 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: these things take? We are we going to have something tomorrow? 351 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: Is it going to be two years? So now set 352 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: our expectations here. Well, I certainly shared their frustrations. This 353 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: one seems to have taken an inordinately long time, particularly 354 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: when compared with the Muller investigation that started indicting people 355 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: within weeks after being created. But to Attorney General Bar's 356 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: credit and hopefully to mister Durham's credit, they are actually 357 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 1: going about it the proper way. It's good that there 358 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: have been no leaks from it. I think that's a 359 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: really good sign that they are following the law and 360 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: they're not just flying off to indict people on little 361 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: process violations as they call them, but trying to find 362 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: out what the real crimes were and brant to light. 363 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: So I am cautiously optimistic that we should see some 364 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: indictments within the next couple of months. At the outside, 365 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: Attorney General bar said that nobody running for president is 366 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: implicated in it, so it's not affected by the election, 367 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: at least so far. So that's good because we will 368 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: all want answers. I mean, it's at least a year 369 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: now that it's been under investigation, and they should be 370 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: close to being able to indict some of the appropriate 371 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: people on the real issues and facts and crimes. And 372 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: let's get on with it. Sidney Pow, thank you so much. 373 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: Thank you, Jesse. It's always a pleasure to be on 374 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: with you. I appreciate all that you do too, pleasure. 375 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: Thank you, ma'am. That's some good stuff right there. I 376 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: am starting to get hopeful that we're actually going to 377 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: see somebody burn for this, but I guess we shall see, 378 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: all right, We're not done yet, hang on joining me now, 379 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: the Senator from the great state one of my favorite 380 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: states in the country of Tennessee, Senator Marsha Blackburn, Senator, 381 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: you have been, thankfully, by the grace of God, out 382 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: in front on this China stuff because I've been worried 383 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: from the beginning that we were going to do what 384 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 1: we always do, or what it seems like we've been 385 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: doing for about thirty years, and just let China get 386 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: away with stuff. You don't seem like you're all about 387 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: letting them get away with stuff. Oh no, I'm not 388 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: for letting them get away. It is time that we 389 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: hold them accountable. And I have to tell you I've 390 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: been working on this issue since I went to Congress 391 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: in two thousand and three and started the Congressional Songwriters 392 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: Caucus to build awareness about intellectual property theft and what 393 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: was happening to a lot of our singers and songwriters 394 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: in Nashville. And through that then we started looking at 395 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: other copyright infringements, and then we realized what was happening 396 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: with the auto industry and aftermarket auto parts, and with 397 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: book publishers and with ink penmakeer. The list just continued 398 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: to grow with all of these consumer products. And then Jesse, 399 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: as you know the work that I've done on defending 400 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: us through our telecommunications systems with Huawei, fighting what they 401 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: were trying to do. And as I was Chairman of 402 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: Comms in Tech at Energy and Commerce there in the house, 403 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: much of the emphasis was put on safeguarding our industry 404 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: here and keeping Huawei out of our telecommunication system. And 405 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: then we started working on all the social media apps. 406 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: Of course TikTok, China owned, is one of the worst. 407 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: And then we were going into pharmaceuticals and looking at 408 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: what was happening with vaccine shortages. And then the next 409 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,959 Speaker 1: thing you know, it is COVID nineteen. And what you 410 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: see is a consistent pattern of action by China and 411 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party, and it is they are going 412 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: to lie, they are going to cheat, they are going 413 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: to steal, and it is time to hold them accountable. Well, 414 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: speaking of coronavirus, it came from China. It's China's fault. 415 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: We know all that, but our response to it is 416 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: our responsibility. We don't have to do the things everyone else. 417 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: We don't have to do the things China did. And 418 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: right now I feel like half this country has gotten 419 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: things figured out, or they're getting things figured out, Senator. 420 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: And I'm sorry to be mean. I feel like the 421 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: other half doesn't want to get it figured out. I 422 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: look at things like what California is doing, what Governor 423 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: Whitmer's doing up in Michigan, and I say, that looks 424 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: like intentional stupidity to me. Yeah, Well, we have states 425 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: like Tennessee that are ready to open, and they are 426 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: fast at work on opening and getting back to work. 427 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: That's a very good thing. It's good for people to 428 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: be out and about. It is good for our nation's 429 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: economy to get the wheels turning. It is good for 430 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: children to be able to get outside and play and 431 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: go to summer camp and get ready to go back 432 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: to school. So those are all positive things. Then you 433 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: have states like Michigan with Governor Whitmer, and no wonder 434 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: the people in Michigan are out protesting. She feels like 435 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: she and her husband how to have one set of 436 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 1: rules and everybody else in Michigan on to have another 437 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: set of rules, and people in Michigan want to get 438 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: out and enjoy the summer. Senator, I'm worried about another 439 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: massive bill. I understand that you've been awesome about this too, 440 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: but I feel like there's not a lot of this 441 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: even in our own party, of actually worrying about these 442 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: deficits and debts. We're facing down a four trillion dollar 443 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: deficit this year, and there's talk about another bill being 444 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: passed through Congress. When does it and when is it? 445 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: When is somebody going to say, whoa wa woa, whoa whoa, 446 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: we can't do any more of this, stop the madness. 447 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: Well I will, I will tell you, thank goodness for 448 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: the Senate Republicans, and it's why we need to hold 449 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,479 Speaker 1: the Senate and we need to pick up a Senate 450 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: seat in Michigan. About what we need to do. The 451 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: three things I hear from Tennessee businesses or this number one, 452 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,479 Speaker 1: we need liability protection. Be sure that there is a 453 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: way that we're not going to get sued by somebody 454 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: who claims they came to our establishment or to our 455 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: school and they caught COVID nineteen, So they want that 456 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: federal liability protection. Second thing we hear about is that 457 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: they want to make certain that there are going to 458 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: be some tax credits for them. They're going to be 459 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 1: ways for them to actually get reimbursed for the money 460 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: that they are spending they want in order to keep 461 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: their factories safe. And then the third thing is they 462 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:20,479 Speaker 1: want regulatory relief. Get the federal government off their back. 463 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: And if we didn't need a ruler regulation dear in 464 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen, get it off the books. And I led 465 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: the Senate in an initiative to push for regulatory relief, 466 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: and we were thrilled that the President did an executive 467 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: order on that, and he has actually challenged the members 468 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,959 Speaker 1: of his cabinet to move forward and get rid of 469 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: some of these regulations. That is a great step in 470 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: the right direction. And we're looking forward to having more 471 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: opportunities through our different committees to say what regulations were 472 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: not needed, what regulations do we need to keep off 473 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: the books, and those are steps that we should be taking. Senator, 474 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: I love liability protection. I think we are a sue 475 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: happy country, and I think it's a smart move to 476 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: consider that a lot of businesses are going to stay 477 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: close because they're worried about getting sued into being you know, 478 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: no longer businesses anymore. However, as soon as I hear 479 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: we need a law, I get a little worried what 480 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: does that look like? So we're not you know, so 481 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: we're doing the smart thing, but we're not overreaching because 482 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: the federal government, as you well know, tends to do that. Yes, 483 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: that is right, and you know there are things like 484 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: with the FDA, as we have done the work toward 485 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: getting some kind of vaccine or the anti virals in 486 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: getting them into the marketplace, you have to stop and say, Okay, 487 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: what rules did we take off the FDA's plate and 488 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: what did they wave in order to speed that process. Now, 489 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: we don't need any more of that. What we need 490 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: is to just say, let's let that be bygone, because 491 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: it is imperative that we begin to fast track some 492 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: of these some of this research work and get it 493 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: through the approval process. Every week we are getting hopeful 494 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: signs for a vaccine for COVID nineteen. We need to 495 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: get that into the pipeline. And you know this follows 496 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: much of the work that was done on stars, that 497 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: was done on ebola. You look at how we've moved 498 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: forward with a v and flu, with getting a vaccine 499 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: for that. There are steps that are taken and what 500 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: the FDA needs to say is we sped the review 501 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: process up as we were working on certain things, and 502 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: as we worked on COVID nineteen. Why don't we do 503 00:31:54,880 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: that for all the vaccines and pharmaceuticals that we're needing. Senator. Lastly, 504 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: I would be remiss if I didn't ask you about 505 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: this Flynn Comy disaster. This has been, in my opinion, 506 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: it's been really pulling at the threads of society. I 507 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: think a lot of people feel like there's one rule, 508 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: set of rules for us, one set of rules for 509 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: everybody in the end crown, and somebody has to burn 510 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: for this because it looks really bad. Not only does 511 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: it look really bad, it has been horrific. You know, 512 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: as I was vice chairman of the transition for the 513 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: President and working with the Vice President on this, those 514 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: of us on the Transition committee, now we're finding out, 515 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: you know that you had an active group over at 516 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: the FBI or over at DJ and they were surveying 517 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: members of the Transition Committee. Let's find out what they did. 518 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: Let's find out what Susan Rice knew, Let's find out 519 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: what Jim Comey knew. And we have had our first 520 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: meeting on the issuing subpoenas. If they're a Judiciary Committee. 521 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: We are going to have another meeting on June fourth. 522 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: When we go back next week, we will vote to 523 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: issue those subpoenas. It's a lengthy list, and your viewers 524 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: can follow me on Facebook and Twitter, my website Blackburn 525 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: dot sin It dot govn they can see that list. 526 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: We're wanting to hear from people. And another thing I 527 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: have to tell you, people say, you know this was 528 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: you had a pretty wide group that sought to unmask 529 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: Flynn and other members possibly the president's family, and so 530 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: had this cabal and this plot that got cooked up, 531 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: and then somebody gave the order to carry it out, 532 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,239 Speaker 1: and then you had somebody do the dirty work. And 533 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: down you're beginning to find out how wide that circle 534 00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: was of people that actually knew about this. So what 535 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,479 Speaker 1: we want to do is get to the bottom of 536 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: it and find out exactly what happened. Flynn and the 537 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: Trump administration certainly have paid a price. The American people 538 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: have footed the bill for this, So we want to 539 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: find out exactly what happened. Senator Marshall Blackburn, thank you 540 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: so much for doing us some time tonight. Good to 541 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: be with you. Thank you. Thanks all right, we got 542 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: a lot more. Hang on joining me now, host of 543 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: This is My Show with Drew Burkewis Drew Burkewist Drew. Obviously, 544 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: the focus tonight is on Flynn and all this gigantic 545 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: FBI CIA mess, So we're going to get to all that. 546 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: But to ask you a broad question right off the bat, 547 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: no justice, you know system, no criminal justice system is perfect. 548 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: It's difficult to decide how to prosecute somebody, how to 549 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: punish people. Every society in history has screwed it up 550 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: in some way. How right do we get it on 551 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: a scale like that, knowing everybody screws it up on 552 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 1: some level. I mean, I tell you what, I don't 553 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: think that right because you look at and thanks for 554 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: having me, by the way, but you look at what's 555 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: happened over the last several years. You can look way 556 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: way back if you want, but let's just look back, 557 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: you know, the last four or so years, and you 558 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: see the people what they've done, you know, whether it's 559 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: Hillary's emails, whatever the case might be, and that small 560 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 1: number or that small percentage of people who are actually 561 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: investigated into or indicted, there's never a precedent set that 562 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: if you do something wrong, there are consequences. It's kind 563 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: of the other way around. Unfortunately now these days where hey, 564 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 1: you know what you're you're a powerful person, you're a politician, 565 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: or whatever will help you off, you're gonna get a 566 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: little slap in the risk in the court of public opinion, 567 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: and that's about it. So I think that it's kind 568 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: of a failure. There's times where we get it right, 569 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: and like you said, no one's perfect, but I think 570 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: that there's enough misses there that should be caused for concern. True, 571 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,919 Speaker 1: what does the average citizen have to do to help 572 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: clean that up? Because we talk all the time, you 573 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: and I, we talk on camera about the problems in 574 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: this system, and there's a problem there, And the emails 575 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: I get from people are mostly saying, I feel helpless. 576 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,919 Speaker 1: What can I do? What can I do? What can 577 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: they do? Is there anything the average citizen can do? 578 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: That's a great question by them and by you, I mean, 579 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 1: I think the one thing they can do is not settle, 580 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: you know, not be complacent. I think that goes for 581 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: all of us. You know, just if you let the 582 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: system happen and you become a part of it, then 583 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: obviously you're not fighting for change, you're not doing anything 584 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: wrong or you're not doing anything to help the situation. 585 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: But the flip side of that is, and the reason 586 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: they're asking those questions is there is a degree of 587 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: helplessness out there where it's like, well, they're big, bad government, 588 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: they're these powerful figures. How do you do it? And 589 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: I think you just keep the heat on and you 590 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: educate more and more people to the point where eventually 591 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, no, no no, no, no, no, we're not 592 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: doing it this way. Like justice has to be had. 593 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 1: There needs to be laws that are not they're already 594 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: in place that just need to be enforced now. And 595 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: there needs to be a system that makes sense and 596 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: that people can get behind. But I think part of 597 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: it really does come down to the education and not 598 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: trying to pick fights with people who have different beliefs 599 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 1: than you, but but educate and inform them on hey, 600 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: this is actually how the system works. This is actually 601 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: what this person has done. Do you think that they 602 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: should be punished for that? And make them decide? And 603 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: then and then as everyone can kind of rally around 604 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: that point, a bigger and more sustained and impactful push 605 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: can be made to actually have changed but hopefully right 606 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: now we're seeing and hopefully what Barr and Durham are 607 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: doing will start to kind of push that ball down 608 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: the hill a little bit. Does enough of the public 609 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: actually care? And this is what I mean by this. 610 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 1: Obviously we all know what happened in Minnesota. We all 611 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 1: saw the death on camera, the murder on camera. We 612 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,240 Speaker 1: saw that, We saw them burned down Minnesota for forty 613 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: eight to seventy two hours, and boom, all of a sudden, 614 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: guys are under arrest who were not under arrest. Now 615 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: everybody knows that is because of public pressure. Whether that's 616 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: a good thing or not, I guess we can argue, 617 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: but we know that's because of public pressure. We are 618 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: how many years into this Obama bar Flynn, Komy Brennan thing, 619 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: and not a single guy is busted in any way. 620 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: I think the worst thing to happen to anybody is 621 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 1: Peter Struck walked out of the FBI office Scott Free. 622 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: So are we that mad? I mean, you and I 623 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: yell about it, but a lot of people aren't. Yeah. No, 624 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: I mean I think I think they're either not they're 625 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: their heads. You understand, they don't want to know what's 626 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: going on because it's easier for them to just go 627 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: about their day, or they do, and then people that 628 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 1: do are so partisan and you know, in central or 629 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 1: opposite ends of the spectrum, that there's no possible way 630 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: for them to really have a conversation, and that of 631 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,760 Speaker 1: course prevents change and things going in a positive direction 632 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: as well. So I think it is. I think it's 633 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: a little bit of Look, I don't want to know 634 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: what's going on. I don't care. I just want to 635 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: live in my little bubble, drink my frappuccino, and move 636 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: on with my day. And then and then again, the 637 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: other people, people like you and I, who deal with 638 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: this stuff on more of a daily basis, it's like, no, 639 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, you are way wrong over here. This 640 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: is what needs to happen. Maybe there's obviously there's some 641 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: room for some compromise, but I honestly, I was talking 642 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: about it with some of this morning. I feel like 643 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 1: we're at a point and I don't like saying this, 644 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: and I'm not inferring anything, but I do feel like 645 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: we're at a point where it's just we're irreparable. There's 646 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: you know, the justice system is broken, the partisan relationships 647 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 1: between everyday citizens and politicians is so fractured that it's 648 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: very rare that you can find someone you can sit 649 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: down with over a bourbon. Don't waste your time with 650 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: anything else. But it's very rare that you can find 651 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: that person, you can sit down and have that conversation 652 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: and not have it turned in to a massive argument. 653 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 1: And I think that those are the kind of things 654 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: that hurt us. Okay, where do we go from here? Look, 655 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: everybody knows I've said it a million times, only half 656 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: in jest, that I feel like America is going to 657 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: break up, split up in some way. Now people scream 658 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: about that, and it sounds radical, and it is radical 659 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: until you look at the lens of history. Every nice 660 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: nation in the history of the world rise as a falls. 661 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: They appear, they disappear, they break up, they move on. 662 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 1: I don't like saying that because I love my country 663 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 1: so much. How much time do we have? Because you're right, 664 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: I mean, these divisions are so bad, and these divisions 665 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: don't generally heal on their own. They keep going this way. 666 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: Put a timeframe on it, Gosh, I don't, I don't know. 667 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's as long as as 668 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,879 Speaker 1: any of us would have ever thought from from now 669 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: into the near future. I think that we're at that 670 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 1: breaking point, to the point where you're going to have 671 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 1: more and more people that actually have some some you know, 672 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: wash their clout behind their voice or their their messaging 673 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: where this starts to pick up. Because it really does. 674 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, look, I never 675 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 1: wanted it either, and I still really don't, but it's 676 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: kind of at that point where it might be necessary. 677 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: And it doesn't mean that your enemy states if you're 678 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 1: splitting up, Hey, you guys, get rid of the church, 679 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: you guys have abortions, pay for legal you know whatever, 680 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 1: you guys, go do that in your place. We'll do 681 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 1: it the way we want to. Here we can still 682 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: have The biggest question, of course, is how do you 683 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: handle sports. You can still handle sports. We've got teams 684 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 1: in Canada. It would be no different, So you know, 685 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: there's ways to figure it out if you had to 686 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 1: go that way. But I think it's coming sooner than later. 687 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: And if it doesn't, either something remarkable has happened, which 688 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 1: I don't believe will be the case, or worse, we 689 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: all continue to be complacent and let it just happen, 690 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: and we have this hyperpartisan culture that is that is 691 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: literally destroying everything. Well, if we can divvy up sports, 692 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: should just one country get women's basketball or all of them? No? 693 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: They definitely all the title nine stuff goes to the 694 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: new Democratic Nation of America. Okay, all right, Drew Florida. 695 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: Everybody knows Rhonda Santis has opened this place up. Florida 696 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 1: is looking better and better. What is the current state 697 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 1: of politics in Florida? Because it's such it's such a 698 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: critical state for this November election. No matter how all 699 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: this Flynn Obama bar stuff shakes out, Florida is gonna 700 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: matter big time in November. Is it that purple? Is 701 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 1: it red? Is it blue? What does it actually what 702 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: does it actually look like? It seems like it's always close. Well, 703 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: it's always close, and I think it's going to continue 704 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: to be close. You know, there's been a lot of 705 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: conversation about the I four corridor. You know, people that 706 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: came in um from Maria, this, that, and the other. 707 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: You know, the political messaging from the Democrats is typically 708 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 1: better for folks who are who are migrating to Florida 709 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: into the US in general. Um, but I think I 710 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: think that the messaging here, you know, DeSantis is one 711 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: done great. The fervor for for Trump in the South 712 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,879 Speaker 1: and Florida is in the South, even though we're really 713 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,800 Speaker 1: not a Southern state, but we're in the South. Um 714 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: is big. You know, people loving the human community down 715 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 1: in Miami loves him. Even though you've got parts of 716 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: Broward and parts of that region down there that are very, 717 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 1: very blue. I think it's still not enough to tip 718 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: it into full on purple status. There's there's some concern 719 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,399 Speaker 1: again in the I four quarter or in a couple 720 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 1: other areas about that, but all in all, it's still 721 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: a red state. I think it hangs on as a 722 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: red state a little bit long. Drew Burkewist, host of 723 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 1: This is My Show with Drew Burkewist, have a go 724 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: with my buddy you too, Thanks for having me, and 725 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: that is all for us tonight, And just know we're 726 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: gonna still be all over this whole bar Durham investigation 727 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 1: as it goes along. It really is a big deal 728 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways because a lot of the 729 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: things Drew was just talking about, it might be the 730 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 1: biggest deal out there right now. So look, you know 731 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,839 Speaker 1: where to go to get your news, well opinions, all right, 732 00:43:51,080 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 1: some tom foolery. You come here, I'll see you on 733 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: the Jordan Harbinger Show. You'll hear amazing stories from people 734 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: that have lived them, from spies to CEOs, even an 735 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: undercover agent who infiltrated the Gambino crime family. You're about 736 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: to hear a preview of the Jordan Harbinger Show with 737 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: Jack Garcia, who did just that. My career was twenty 738 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: four out of twenty six years was solely dedicated working 739 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,439 Speaker 1: on the cover. I walk in, I'm in the bar. 740 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 1: How there's a bar made? Dare good looking? Young lady? 741 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: See serving me? Joey, Hey, what would you like? I 742 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: usually my frank was give me a kettle, one martini, 743 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,760 Speaker 1: three olives, class of water on the side. I finished 744 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 1: the drink. The guys come in. I'm gonna go go 745 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: in my pocket, take out the big wad of money 746 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,839 Speaker 1: I am. I give her one hundred dollars. If you're 747 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,760 Speaker 1: with the mob, I say, hey, Jordan, you're on record 748 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 1: with us. That means we protect you. Nobody could shake 749 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 1: you down. We could shake you down. Oh, you're on 750 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: record with us. For more on how Jack became so 751 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: trusted in the highest levels of the Gambino organization. Check 752 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 1: out episode three ninety two of the Jordan Harbinger Show