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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
Speaker 2: my name is Noah.
Speaker 3: They call me Ben. We are joined with our producer
Speaker 3: Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you are here
Speaker 3: and that makes this the stuff they don't want you
Speaker 3: to know. We are coming to you semi live as
Speaker 3: a hurricane is hitting the US, the southeastern US, part
Speaker 3: of which we are based in, and we wanted to
Speaker 3: get this out as long as we have power. We
Speaker 3: talked a little bit about the because we're super cool
Speaker 3: and superant not boring.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got stories. How's that about the weather? No,
Speaker 4: it actually is appropriate this time. It's kind of a
Speaker 4: little scary. And we talked about how interesting and non
Speaker 4: exact a science meteorology kind of is. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, if you look at the radar right now, guys,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've noticed this when it's showing
Speaker 2: like if you go to weather dot COM's radar that
Speaker 2: they display right it will show you the storm systems
Speaker 2: moving north through as you said, the southeastern part of
Speaker 2: the US. But it doesn't show the hurricane. And when
Speaker 2: it's showing you the past up until now, the hurricane
Speaker 2: pops on screen when it shows you the future, like
Speaker 2: what's coming, what's about to happen? Even though the storm
Speaker 2: system is displaying in the past is like right near
Speaker 2: or around the hurricane. It's the weirdest thing.
Speaker 4: What does it mean that? What does it mean?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It means there's a weird Venn diagram and people are
Speaker 3: portraying it differently, which is not great for the populace.
Speaker 2: Well, it makes me wonder in the future if the
Speaker 2: AI systems that have been used for weather prediction, for
Speaker 2: these types of radar systems, right look at what's happened
Speaker 2: in the past with the radar and then use these
Speaker 2: intense supercomputers and systems deep learning systems to predict what's
Speaker 2: going to happen.
Speaker 5: What if those.
Speaker 2: Systems start not making up storms but start displayingcinating Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean we've talked about.
Speaker 5: How those systems can have weird stuff.
Speaker 6: Pre crime, pre natural disaster crime.
Speaker 4: I'm just happy that all the weather people on TV
Speaker 4: are having a moment to shine. You love to see it.
Speaker 4: They don't get their due.
Speaker 3: I love it. I love meteorologists. They get a tough
Speaker 3: time because sometimes they predict the possibility of disasters that
Speaker 3: people don't fully understand, and they get a hard time
Speaker 3: either way. So they're doing great work. Just like the
Speaker 3: octopuses that are training fish to hunt with them. That's
Speaker 3: a true story. They're not doing it. The fish, I mean,
Speaker 3: are not necessarily consenting to this because the octopus will
Speaker 3: beat them until it hunts with them.
Speaker 4: I remember my octopus teacher. I saw that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, So check out the news on that.
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about some very heavy things, some
Speaker 3: very disturbing things, discoveries, updates, bands, just you know, folks.
Speaker 3: At the end, toward the end and the third act
Speaker 3: of this weekly Strange News segment, we are going to
Speaker 3: talk about state sponsored murder. But there's so much strange news.
Speaker 3: We have so much on the way.
Speaker 5: And we've returned.
Speaker 2: We're going to hit a couple updates, guys, and then
Speaker 2: have a brief thought experiment about a story Ben that
Speaker 2: you brought to us last week. The whole world was watching.
Speaker 2: I think, So here we go. First of all, do
Speaker 2: you guys Remember that giant cargo ship that crashed into
Speaker 2: and collapsed Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge in March.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah bridge.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, the company that runs that, that manages that ship
Speaker 2: as well as owns that ship, is in the news
Speaker 2: again because the sister ship of the Bali that's the
Speaker 2: name of the ship that actually crashed into the bridge there,
Speaker 2: The sister ship, the Mayserk I think is how you'd
Speaker 2: say it, or Masersk m ae Rsk sal Toro, is
Speaker 2: now in the news because it has been boarded by
Speaker 2: agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the US Environmental
Speaker 2: Protection Agency's Criminal Investigation Division, and the Coast Guard Investigative
Speaker 2: Services because because just like the Dolly, it is alleged
Speaker 2: or believed at least by these investigators that the Maersk Saltro,
Speaker 2: just like the Dolly, basically has all kinds of major
Speaker 2: issues on it. We're talking electrical issues, mechanical issues. That
Speaker 2: mean these vessels, this one, just like the Dolly, basically
Speaker 2: are giant problems floating around in the ocean that could
Speaker 2: cause a major incident, just like the DOLLI caused back
Speaker 2: in March. I'll read you just a little bit of this.
Speaker 2: There was a lawsuit that was filed on Wednesday, September
Speaker 2: eighteenth by the US Justice Department. It alleges that the
Speaker 2: owners Grace Ocean Private Limited and the manager Senterg Marine
Speaker 2: or Centergy Marine Group, both of these companies out of Singapore,
Speaker 2: they recklessly cut corners and ignore known electrical problems on
Speaker 2: their vessels, specifically on the Dolli, and that is what
Speaker 2: caused multiple power issues which ended up causing the crash
Speaker 2: that made a bridge collapse. They're saying that the same
Speaker 2: kind of things exist on this new ship or this
Speaker 2: it's not a new ship, it's a sister ship, but
Speaker 2: is now new to us, right, And the Justice Department
Speaker 2: is trying to get over one hundred million dollars from
Speaker 2: these companies to pay for all of the stuff that
Speaker 2: it took to get that bridge basically cleared out and
Speaker 2: all the debris out of the way so that the
Speaker 2: port could even open again.
Speaker 4: Well, it seems only fair, doesn't that it was entirely
Speaker 4: their fault?
Speaker 2: Well, it was, right, So there's a lot of litigation
Speaker 2: happening right now. Attorneys in offices trying to figure out, well,
Speaker 2: who actually is at fault.
Speaker 5: And why and why was it not us? Right? I
Speaker 5: mean that's basically the things.
Speaker 2: That happen after a disaster like this, because remember six
Speaker 2: human beings that were working on that bridge died when
Speaker 2: this occurred. And then if you think about the billions
Speaker 2: of dollars, Remember we were talking about that, the billions
Speaker 2: of dollars that the city of Baltimore and all of
Speaker 2: the companies that ship in and out of that port lost.
Speaker 4: In revenue, right, like m Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Because nobody could come in or out for several months.
Speaker 2: It was just a big deal. So from March till
Speaker 2: June it was incapacitated.
Speaker 4: Yeah. It's funny. A friend of mine staying with me
Speaker 4: who's a lawyer, and we were talking about this weather
Speaker 4: situation and the concept of theft, just joking around saying, oh,
Speaker 4: if my partner's art market is canceled due to weather,
Speaker 4: then that's technically like theft of her wages or her
Speaker 4: ability to sell. I mean you could argue that by
Speaker 4: the negligence alone, this company like defrauded people of their income,
Speaker 4: defrauded this company of its ability to earn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure. Oh and just in a
Speaker 2: bit of hopeful news guys. The Dolly, which remember, was
Speaker 2: like smashed into that bridge and kind of became a
Speaker 2: part of the bridge there for a little while. It
Speaker 2: was successfully quote extricated and refloated, and as of Thursday,
Speaker 2: September nineteenth, it was on a new route headed to
Speaker 2: China for its first international voyage post bridge collapse. So
Speaker 2: at least that ship still working silver lining, I don't know.
Speaker 2: In the end, this appears to be the Justice Department
Speaker 2: trying to get money back for a bunch of stuff
Speaker 2: that it and a bunch of other federal and state
Speaker 2: agencies went through to fix a huge problem. All right,
Speaker 2: We've got a second update, you guys. Remember that British
Speaker 2: tech billionaire Mike Lynch who died along with several of
Speaker 2: his family members and friends like his daughter, when his
Speaker 2: super yacht, the Baysian, sank off the coast of Sicily
Speaker 2: in August.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's.
Speaker 2: Back in the news too for a bit of a
Speaker 2: different reason. And it is because I'm going to read
Speaker 2: you a quote from this article out of CNN. Specialist
Speaker 2: divers surveying the wreckage of the forty million dollars super
Speaker 2: yacht have asked for heightened security to guard the vessel
Speaker 2: over concerns that sensitive ata locked in its safes may
Speaker 2: interest foreign governments. What what, So, we've got a super
Speaker 2: yacht down at the bottom of the ocean where it
Speaker 2: was found, right, that's where several people met their demise, unfortunately,
Speaker 2: including the uh one of the owners of that super yacht,
Speaker 2: Mike Lynch. According to quote, you guys are gonna love this,
Speaker 2: sources familiar with the investigation.
Speaker 4: Unquote sources so helpful, aren't they?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Baysian this super yacht may contain highly sensitive
Speaker 2: data tied to a number of Western intelligence services. What
Speaker 2: sensitive information about Western intelligence services on a ship that
Speaker 2: was British off the coast of Italy? Interesting?
Speaker 5: Do you guys have any thoughts on that? Initially?
Speaker 4: Well, sure makes it seem like this was some kind
Speaker 4: of hit, right, But so why didn't they get the stuff?
Speaker 4: Usually if there's a hit because someone's sitting on important
Speaker 4: or classified or sensitive information, they you know, a person
Speaker 4: is killed and then the stuff is removed and no
Speaker 4: one ever finds it. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It feels a little weird to me that there would
Speaker 2: be sensitive data like that on a ship that hangs
Speaker 2: out in international waters all the time, Why would you
Speaker 2: have that there? There are probably reasons.
Speaker 4: Well, wasn't that part of the conversation? This seemed fishy,
Speaker 4: like maybe there was these were high value individuals or
Speaker 4: people that know stuff, and maybe this was some sort
Speaker 4: of orchestrated attempt to sink the yacht and make it
Speaker 4: look like an accident.
Speaker 2: Yes, but you asked the right question there in NOL.
Speaker 2: Why would someone who targeted this ship and the people
Speaker 2: who were on it if they weren't going to take
Speaker 2: that stuff already? Right, if the goal wasn't to get
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. So the reason why that information's
Speaker 2: on the ship is because Lynch, Mike Lynch was associated with,
Speaker 2: according to see in, British, American and other intelligence services
Speaker 2: through his various companies, including the cybersecurity company that he founded,
Speaker 2: Dark Trace also guys his wife's company, ray Tom r
Speaker 2: E YTM Limited. Sorry that's the second name, ray Tom Limited.
Speaker 2: That company owned the ship and this person, Mike Linch's wife,
Speaker 2: was also an advisor to British Prime Ministers David Cameron
Speaker 2: and Theresa May. She was a science, technology and cyber
Speaker 2: security advisor, which means she likely had information, or at
Speaker 2: least had access to information that was highly sensitive. Who
Speaker 2: knows if she took any of that or stored any
Speaker 2: of that. I think that's what these investigators are interested in,
Speaker 2: the potential that some of that stuff ended up on these,
Speaker 2: at least according to the authorities, highly secured drives, like
Speaker 2: heavily encrypted drives that exist in safes that are allegedly watertight,
Speaker 2: that are now at the bottom of the ocean.
Speaker 4: Craziness. It's wild.
Speaker 2: But the biggest thing is that law enforcement in these
Speaker 2: these investigative services believe that this information is so let's
Speaker 2: say actionable, maybe that Russian and Chinese services special services
Speaker 2: would be willing to go down there and attempt to
Speaker 2: recover it.
Speaker 4: Ben, what kind of stuff do you think would fall
Speaker 4: into it and that level of concern for all of
Speaker 4: these other parties nol.
Speaker 3: Do you mean as in, what would what kind of info.
Speaker 4: Would do, what would lead to this level of hubbub.
Speaker 3: Like, what would incentivize rival powers? Yeah, it's tough because
Speaker 3: it's the age of information war. So probably the idea is,
Speaker 3: or the fear is that something there could be leading
Speaker 3: to not perishable immediate intelligence, but leading to methods of
Speaker 3: collection perhaps even you know, the stinky side of it
Speaker 3: would be the idea of algorithmic patterns things that could
Speaker 3: be used to break encryption would be a great one,
Speaker 3: especially given the context outlined earlier. I will say also
Speaker 3: to this point, before we get to to James Bond
Speaker 3: about it. Past a certain threshold of wealth, a lot
Speaker 3: of people kick it naturally with intelligence agencies like the
Speaker 3: tech bros. Are of great interest to the intel guys.
Speaker 3: And the other thing is if this is really a takedown,
Speaker 3: because we have briefly talked about the possibility of bad
Speaker 3: faith actors, and you know, whether this is an accident
Speaker 3: or a manufactured event. There are fifteen survivors right from
Speaker 3: the original from the original debacle.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, lots of people made it off and
Speaker 2: got to another ship that was nearby that also happened
Speaker 2: to be a sailboat. Remember that a little weird, just
Speaker 2: on the idea of what could be in there. According
Speaker 2: to CNN, they talked to someone unquote who asked not
Speaker 2: to be named unquote, and that person said that the
Speaker 2: ship is thought to have watertight safes containing two super
Speaker 2: encrypted hard drives that hold highly classified information, including passcodes
Speaker 2: and other sensitive data.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's holding the keys to some doors exactlyctly.
Speaker 3: And that's that's what I mean when I say like
Speaker 3: methods and encryption breaking kind of things, and it's it
Speaker 3: is totally possible. It is highly within the realm of plausibility.
Speaker 3: We do have to also consider that you know a
Speaker 3: lot of people who are on this boat at this
Speaker 3: time did not know, you know, what was in these safes.
Speaker 3: That's the point of safes in general, right Like, Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: the chef on the yacht, because this was a big
Speaker 3: enough yacht to have a guy whose job was just
Speaker 3: to be the chef, he probably died without having any
Speaker 3: idea of what was contained in here.
Speaker 6: But to your.
Speaker 3: Earlier question about the value of the information on these
Speaker 3: hard drives, we have to remember that international maritime law
Speaker 3: is a little bit different. I know, I sound like
Speaker 3: Charlie Day talking about bird law, but maritime law is
Speaker 3: a little different. So there are consequences for powers like
Speaker 3: Russia or China being apprehended tried to do a little
Speaker 3: scoot and boot under scavenger law. Even though scavenger law is.
Speaker 6: Still kind of a thing.
Speaker 3: You can get in trouble if you're obviously I will
Speaker 3: say spook it about.
Speaker 2: Well, and if it's a crime scene, right, and in
Speaker 2: this case, it's a crime scene because it's under investigation
Speaker 2: there by Italian authorities. Who knows what's gonna happen, but
Speaker 2: they are putting all kinds of underwater surveillance and lots
Speaker 2: and lots of surveillance above the water because it is
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty four feet below the surface of
Speaker 2: the water. So if you've got to ship up there,
Speaker 2: who knows what's going on. You're not going to see
Speaker 2: any lights if anybody's got a submersible or something down there,
Speaker 2: or you know, a team of like essentially seals crazy town, y'all.
Speaker 2: So let's keep an eye on that for sure. Last
Speaker 2: thing I've got here is going to be super quick.
Speaker 2: Moving on to a hunch I've got based on the
Speaker 2: story you brought to us last week, Ben, I've been
Speaker 2: thinking a lot about the sorts of casual conversations that
Speaker 2: are being held in the upper echelons of every government
Speaker 2: on the planet since last week. I imagine the most
Speaker 2: prominent thing they're talking about is how do we check
Speaker 2: every single device in our division, in this building, in
Speaker 2: the state that we operate in, Maybe even in the
Speaker 2: country to make sure that none of these devices have
Speaker 2: explosives in them, because what if there's an enemy of
Speaker 2: ours that has already orchestrated an attack like this, it
Speaker 2: just hasn't happened yet, and in that case, it would
Speaker 2: mean explosives are already in devices. There's just nobody sent
Speaker 2: a signal yet. Right, Well, it just maybe kind of
Speaker 2: go down to what if they're thinking about vehicles rather
Speaker 2: than pagers, because we know from stories that we've talked
Speaker 2: about in the past that vehicles of all shapes and
Speaker 2: sizes are manufactured now at least this is the norm,
Speaker 2: manufactured in all parts of the world, and then those
Speaker 2: parts are individually shipped to a place where they're assembled
Speaker 2: into the vehicle that you know and drive around in. Well,
Speaker 2: according to Reuters, the US government is very much interested
Speaker 2: in trying to prevent a specific country from sending both
Speaker 2: hardware and software to be included in any vehicles that
Speaker 2: are operated in the United States.
Speaker 6: Oh gosh, who could it be?
Speaker 2: Gee, I don't know who. What country makes a bunch
Speaker 2: of things that the United States uses? Say it in
Speaker 2: his access China? There you go, All right, that's exactly correct.
Speaker 2: This is out of Reuters. The US Commerce Department is
Speaker 2: expected on Monday. This was this past Monday that we're
Speaker 2: recording this so on the twenty third of September to
Speaker 2: propose prohibiting Chinese software and hardware in connected and autonomous
Speaker 2: vehicles on American roads due to national security concerns. Guys,
Speaker 2: so on connected and autonomous vehicles, it gets a little
Speaker 2: weird when we talk autonomous is pretty simple, right, A
Speaker 2: vehicle that's going to operate on its own as a
Speaker 2: part of those ride share services or eventually the plans
Speaker 2: are to have like shipping being automated, at least to
Speaker 2: a large part. That's one of the things that I
Speaker 2: was going to say, Nicola Tesla. It's one of the
Speaker 2: things that Tesla has been attempting to do for a
Speaker 2: long time, getting these very specialized trucks that could actually
Speaker 2: ship stuff all around the country and not have any
Speaker 2: humans on them, just doing their thing, their little robot
Speaker 2: shipping thing.
Speaker 5: But it also made me think.
Speaker 2: About guys vehicles that let's say, the Secret Service uses
Speaker 2: to ship around highly important individuals in the government. It
Speaker 2: makes me think about all types of human beings that
Speaker 2: are important to the US government. Continuity they get moved
Speaker 2: around on vehicles that have Chinese hardware and software in them.
Speaker 2: And if you go down, let me say the article.
Speaker 2: The article is titled exclusive colon US to propose ban
Speaker 2: on Chinese software, hardware and connected vehicles. You will see
Speaker 2: a quote from Gina Raimondo r AI MND, who is
Speaker 2: the United States Commerce Secretary. She was speaking in May
Speaker 2: of this year, twenty twenty four, and she said, quote,
Speaker 2: you can imagine the most catastrophic outcome theoretically if you
Speaker 2: add a couple million cars on the road and the
Speaker 2: software were disabled. So let's think about that. In that scenario,
Speaker 2: there are a couple million cars across the United States that,
Speaker 2: in one attack of sorts all become disabled at once. Right,
Speaker 2: some of those vehicles would be parked, some of them
Speaker 2: might be on roads, some of them might become obstructions,
Speaker 2: some of them might be ridden in by important people.
Speaker 2: That becomes kind of a scary thing. But if you
Speaker 2: look at the history of specifically the Secret Service in
Speaker 2: the vehicles that they use, they are primarily GMC vehicles,
Speaker 2: US made vehicles, but a lot of these vehicles have
Speaker 2: Chinese hardware and software in them. Specifically GMC vehicles guys
Speaker 2: like Cadillacs, like the limos that presidents get driven around
Speaker 2: in all the time, they would be affected by.
Speaker 4: This interesting I heard a piece on the radio a
Speaker 4: week or so ago about this exact thing, and the
Speaker 4: person that was talking, and the expert whose name escapes me,
Speaker 4: was saying how there aren't that many fully Chinese manufactured
Speaker 4: vehicles available in the US markets. But they didn't mention
Speaker 4: all of the systems that you're talking about, Matt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, components that are inside these systems. Anyway, it just
Speaker 2: made me think about that. Guys, I just wondered if
Speaker 2: you had any ideas. But I know we're running along
Speaker 2: on time here, so maybe we'll save our thoughts for
Speaker 2: a different time and we'll ask what you think about
Speaker 2: these three stories. We'll tell you how to contact us
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Speaker 4: And we returned with another piece of strange news. This
Speaker 4: one starts off pretty sad, but stick with us, folks,
Speaker 4: it has a happy ending. Oakland, California, nineteen fifty one.
Speaker 4: A little boy named Louis Armando albino, six years old
Speaker 4: at the time, was playing in a park and was abducted.
Speaker 4: A woman on February twenty first, nineteen fifty one lured
Speaker 4: him away from the West Oakland Park where he'd been
Speaker 4: playing with his brother, promising him in Spanish Puerto Rican
Speaker 4: Boy that she was going to buy him candy. And
Speaker 4: it's just gosh, that whole concept of like luring kids
Speaker 4: with candy is such a trope, But it's a trope
Speaker 4: for a reason. Troops are only troops because they were
Speaker 4: true at some point one hundred percent. So fast forward
Speaker 4: to the modern day. So the woman in question took
Speaker 4: this minor child on a flight to the East Coast,
Speaker 4: the entire opposite side of the country, and he ended
Speaker 4: up through whatever means, it does appear to be trafficking.
Speaker 4: I imagined he was perhaps sold or there was a
Speaker 4: ve paid or something. But the good news is he
Speaker 4: was raised by a couple and does not appear that
Speaker 4: there was any allegations of abuse from this couple who
Speaker 4: raised him as their own. Officials and family members have
Speaker 4: not commented exactly where on the East Coast this took place.
Speaker 4: But fast forward about seventy years y'all to the modern
Speaker 4: day albino or albino. I think his has pronounced stayed missing.
Speaker 4: His family members left behind never forgot about him. They
Speaker 4: kept pictures hung of him and their homes and the
Speaker 4: homes of their relatives. His mother passed away in two
Speaker 4: thousand and five, but apparently, according to other relatives, including
Speaker 4: his niece, never gave up hope, maybe not that they
Speaker 4: would ever be reunited with the boy, but that he
Speaker 4: was still alive.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine the just the gravity of that burden
Speaker 3: to bear.
Speaker 4: I cannot, you know, as a parent and as someone
Speaker 4: who's other kids in my life who aren't in mind
Speaker 4: by blood, it is just the most terrifying. The not
Speaker 4: knowing is the most terrifying thing. I mean, of course,
Speaker 4: obviously knowing that your child was killed is horrific in
Speaker 4: and of itself, but there's something about the games your
Speaker 4: mind plays with you for that long.
Speaker 2: Imagine the mother fifty plus years, fifty four years of
Speaker 2: just knowing your son is gone, and then you pass
Speaker 2: away believing your son is just gone, but you never
Speaker 2: get closure in any way.
Speaker 4: No Oakland Police. By the way, this reporting comes from
Speaker 4: an article by the Associated Press, and it was picked
Speaker 4: up and there's there have been other pieces, but I
Speaker 4: do think this is quite a good summation of the story.
Speaker 4: Oakland PD acknowledged that it was actions of the family
Speaker 4: that led to this case going from unsolved and cold
Speaker 4: as they come to being essentially reignited, you know, with
Speaker 4: some hope, and most importantly, the efforts of Albino's niece,
Speaker 4: the now sixty three year old Alita Aloquin. Essentially what
Speaker 4: happened was the following. She is credited by police with
Speaker 4: playing an integral role. This is a quote from the
Speaker 4: Oakland Police in finding her uncle, and that the outcome
Speaker 4: of this story is what they, as police investigators, strive for.
Speaker 4: So let's get to the good part. Oakland Tribune articles
Speaker 4: that reported on the disappearance reported the police and soldiers
Speaker 4: from a local army base, as well as the Coast
Speaker 4: Guard and other city employees, participated in a massive search
Speaker 4: for the missing boy all across the San Francisco Bay area.
Speaker 4: The San Francisco Bay and other waterways were dragged and
Speaker 4: searched looking for the worst, of course, you know body.
Speaker 4: His brother, Roger Albino, was interrogated multiple times, potentially as
Speaker 4: a suspect. Investigators ultimately dismissed him as a suspect because
Speaker 4: he stood by his story about seeing that woman. This
Speaker 4: is the brother, by the way, who was with you know,
Speaker 4: Albino when he was abducted. So can you imagine that
Speaker 4: being your brother being taken you blaming yourself of course,
Speaker 4: as you would naturally whether that's true or not, and
Speaker 4: then being interrogated by the police blaming you for his disappearance,
Speaker 4: or maybe even implying that you had something to do
Speaker 4: with it. So let's go back to Aliquin, who first
Speaker 4: got an inkling that her uncle might actually be still alive.
Speaker 4: That came in twenty twenty where she just for fun,
Speaker 4: as she put it, took an online DNA test. It's
Speaker 4: not mentioned exactly which one it was, but we've certainly
Speaker 4: seen these online DNA tests being the subject of a
Speaker 4: lot of criticism, a lot of controversy in terms of
Speaker 4: just the companies that offer these, just buying and selling
Speaker 4: your DNA information, your data, and all of that. Certainly
Speaker 4: there is the sketchy side of this, but just the same,
Speaker 4: she took the online DNA test, which showed, thankfully, because
Speaker 4: this other individual was in the database, a twenty two
Speaker 4: percent match with a man living on the other side
Speaker 4: of the country who did ultimately turn out to be
Speaker 4: her uncle, Lewis Armando Albino, that six year old boy
Speaker 4: who was abducted in nineteen fifty one. Pretty incredible. In
Speaker 4: early twenty twenty four, she and her daughters started to
Speaker 4: search for this man. On a visit to the Oakland
Speaker 4: Public Library, she looked through some of the microfilms of
Speaker 4: the reporting from when the abduction took place, and she
Speaker 4: actually found one that had a picture of Louis and
Speaker 4: Louise and Roger, the brothers, which she was able to
Speaker 4: kind of look to as a sign that she was
Speaker 4: on the right track because this person that she was
Speaker 4: connected with looked like he could potentially be a match.
Speaker 4: And she went to the Oakland Police with this information,
Speaker 4: and the investigators, you know, in what one could argue
Speaker 4: would be kind of like exception to what would normally happen.
Speaker 4: It seems in these kind of situations where someone comes
Speaker 4: with information on a long dead case, you often hear
Speaker 4: about people of being you know, pushed aside and not
Speaker 4: taken seriously. So kudos to the Oakland Police Department for
Speaker 4: taking this information seriously and opening a new missing person investigation.
Speaker 4: Oakland police very recently last week is a brand new
Speaker 4: story said that the missing person's case is now closed,
Speaker 4: but that they and the FBI are still considering the
Speaker 4: kidnapping portion of it to be an ongoing investigation. Now
Speaker 4: that Luis has been found on the East coast providing
Speaker 4: DNA samples, it has proven that he is in fact
Speaker 4: the missing boy because Alquin's mother also provided a DNA sample.
Speaker 4: So with one hundred percent certainty.
Speaker 3: Talk about a family reunion. And I love that there's
Speaker 3: there is some closure here, you know. Actually I went
Speaker 3: on mute just so I could I could hear this,
Speaker 3: hear the story in full, the noel. Do we have
Speaker 3: any indication there's something? A lot of the audience will ask,
Speaker 3: do we have any indication on possible identities or motivations
Speaker 3: of the original kidnappers all those years ago?
Speaker 4: Now it seems like it might be too soon to know,
Speaker 4: but it does appear that they are interested in that
Speaker 4: very same question, Ben, in finding out what you know
Speaker 4: can be determined. You know, from questioning Louise and describing
Speaker 4: this woman who abducted him all those years ago, seventy
Speaker 4: years ago, I believe She's been described as having not
Speaker 4: that this matters today, but having worn a bandana, you know,
Speaker 4: some vague descriptions of her appearance. But again, seventy years ago,
Speaker 4: chances are pretty good. With Louise now being in his.
Speaker 2: Seventies, he's like seventy nine, rightly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly that this woman would be probably long deceased.
Speaker 4: But then the question does become ben, was this part
Speaker 4: of some sort of greater organization that perhaps God only
Speaker 4: knows still operating? You know, it does seem that there
Speaker 4: could be information that could be valuable even this many
Speaker 4: years later. So yeah, that's the gist of that story.
Speaker 4: I just think it's such a fantastic and powerful statement
Speaker 4: on never giving up hope, you know, as hard as
Speaker 4: it might be. There's a quote from Aliquhen, the niece,
Speaker 4: saying when they reunited, we didn't start crying until after
Speaker 4: the investigators left. I grabbed my mom's hand and said,
Speaker 4: we found him. I was ecstatic. Aliquan went on to
Speaker 4: describe her mother and other relatives being reunited with Luis
Speaker 4: as well, saying they grabbed each other and had a
Speaker 4: really tight, long hug. They sat down and just talked.
Speaker 4: She said, discussing the day of the kidnapping, their military service,
Speaker 4: and more.
Speaker 3: And it reminds me of one important point for all
Speaker 3: of us listening along. Statistically, unfortunately, some of our fellow
Speaker 3: conspiracy realist may have first hand experience with similar situations.
Speaker 3: Think of the horrors of the residential schools, Think of
Speaker 3: the cultural erasure that has occurred in the Western world
Speaker 3: as well as many other parts of the globe. One
Speaker 3: thing about DNA testing and the DNA technology that has
Speaker 3: yet to be fully legislated is although it poses frightening implications,
Speaker 3: it also, as you pointed out, and all these amazing
Speaker 3: opportunities right for people to learn more about where they
Speaker 3: come from, learn who was lost, and maybe reconnect with
Speaker 3: those folks. And I think there's a great power and
Speaker 3: poetry to that. I'm curious, what do you guys think.
Speaker 3: Do you think that we have someone in the audience
Speaker 3: tonight who may have encountered something similar. I'm thinking through
Speaker 3: my head, and I know we've had fellow listeners who
Speaker 3: have talked at some length there sent us correspondence regarding
Speaker 3: finding family they didn't know they had or that they
Speaker 3: supposed was gone forever. Do you guys think any body
Speaker 3: in the audience tonight might have a similar.
Speaker 4: Story, highly likely, whether it's this extreme a case or
Speaker 4: something more like what you were describing, Ben, I think
Speaker 4: it's a lot more common than people might think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially with some of the cases of what was
Speaker 2: it fraud where a doctor would impregnate multiple women when
Speaker 2: they would come in to you know, partake in IVF
Speaker 2: or something like that. You never know, all of us
Speaker 2: might have, you know, some kind of siblings out there.
Speaker 4: Agreed, Yeah, I mean, you know, like I said, there's
Speaker 4: a whole sticky wicket with the DNA testing for profit
Speaker 4: and you know what's being done with that information. And
Speaker 4: it was one of those things where it was such
Speaker 4: a shiny new thing when it was first offered and
Speaker 4: everyone was excited to participate in it without really thinking
Speaker 4: about the consequences. But we've also seen the flip side
Speaker 4: of that, the positive side of that with cold cases
Speaker 4: being solved. Matt, I believe you brought a case, No,
Speaker 4: it was a Golden State killer, right. It was a
Speaker 4: case involving a DNA site that identified as a suspect
Speaker 4: for the Golden State killer and that was determined to
Speaker 4: be accurate.
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, correct, Jedmatch I believe was the name of
Speaker 2: that company that did that.
Speaker 4: There you go, So it's certainly something that we've seen
Speaker 4: positive things come out of. There's also, you know, of course,
Speaker 4: a dark side to data brokering and all of that
Speaker 4: good stuff that we've talked about at length on the show.
Speaker 4: So nice to hear a story like this is such
Speaker 4: a sad beginning ending on such a positive note. So please,
Speaker 4: if anyone out there does have experience like this being
Speaker 4: reunited with long lost, possibly thought dead family members, please
Speaker 4: do send us your stories conspiracy at iHeartRadio dot com.
Speaker 4: We'd really love to hear it and share your stories
Speaker 4: on an upcoming listener mail if you are comfortable with that.
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Speaker 3: this is the part of the weekly Strange News segment
Speaker 3: that may be disturbing and as such not appropriate for
Speaker 3: all listeners. Want to get that disclaimer out of the way.
Speaker 3: Will end with a fun thing. But before we get
Speaker 3: to this horrific story, let's get a little bit of
Speaker 3: paranoia in the chat guys, did you see that there
Speaker 3: was a new study confirming some of the world's most
Speaker 3: common smart TVs are taking multi second snapshots of what
Speaker 3: you watch?
Speaker 4: Is this like Roku specific than them offering so much
Speaker 4: of the software operating system for a lot of smart TVs?
Speaker 4: I'm curious. Yeah.
Speaker 3: For a while, NOL, I've been wondering why television prices
Speaker 3: seem to buck the overall trend of rising cost in electronics.
Speaker 3: Why the TVs yeah become the loss leader. It's because, Yeah,
Speaker 3: popular smart TV models me by Sam Sung and LG
Speaker 3: take snapshots of what you're watching every second, even if
Speaker 3: and get this, even if they're being used as external
Speaker 3: displays for your laptop or video game console.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so much else snapshot like literally like a
Speaker 4: spot Yeah wow.
Speaker 3: Windshot with associated metadata. I want to give a shout
Speaker 3: out credits very important where it's due. Shout out to
Speaker 3: Jeremy Sue over at New Scientist with this information. That's
Speaker 3: where we found it. Published twenty four September, Uh, just
Speaker 3: just this month. UH and this dumble one, but a
Speaker 3: fun update. We've been on this kick, as longtime listeners
Speaker 3: know with UH with drugs hidden in weird things.
Speaker 6: What do we have? We had.
Speaker 4: Fake watermelons, like paper mache, looking at square watermelons.
Speaker 3: Oh, and then there was like the crates of something
Speaker 3: at the farmer's market.
Speaker 4: Little guitar amplifiers at guitar Center.
Speaker 6: Guitar amplifiers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, celery squash. We got hugeless green beans, giant vats
Speaker 2: of jolopano paste.
Speaker 4: What happened to there? Such, snuggle them in your butt
Speaker 4: like the old days, you know.
Speaker 3: Right well, you can't do the volume. I guess people's
Speaker 3: parts are getting smaller.
Speaker 4: Can't find a good drug mule these days.
Speaker 6: You can't even get a regular mule.
Speaker 3: The prices are crazy, so our quick drugs and stuff update.
Speaker 3: A German supermarket, not the authorities. A German supermarket discovered
Speaker 3: seven million euros worth of cocaine hidden in crates of bananas.
Speaker 6: So if you.
Speaker 3: Are living in Germany and you're getting a weird vibe
Speaker 3: off your bananas, get the to the local news.
Speaker 4: There's a Ween song called Bananas and Blow, and I
Speaker 4: think that's appropriate soundtrack material for this story.
Speaker 3: You know what, it's weird, no, because I'll hear people
Speaker 3: say a Ween reference and half the time I think
Speaker 3: they're making it up because the song sounds so specific.
Speaker 3: They've got some cookie stuff, okay, But every time I
Speaker 3: check it out, it turns out to be the case.
Speaker 3: And speaking of cases, this is the trigger warning three
Speaker 3: two one. A few days before we came to record
Speaker 3: this Strange News segment, the state of Missouri, despite overwhelming protest,
Speaker 3: murdered executed a man named Marcellus Williams. This will be
Speaker 3: familiar to us because I believe in June of this
Speaker 3: year we talked about this a bit on Strange News.
Speaker 3: They had set the execution date the state of Missouri,
Speaker 3: and they set that date for September twenty fourth. Marcellus
Speaker 3: Williams was executed by lethal injection. Would I say there
Speaker 3: was a massive outcry. The crime for which he was
Speaker 3: executed was the stabbing of Felicia Gail on August eleventh,
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety eight. It was a homicide. The two witnesses
Speaker 3: who placed him at the scene have passed away, one
Speaker 3: of whom I believe recanted their statement. We talked about
Speaker 3: some of the stickiness of that. The family of Felicia
Speaker 3: Gail also requested clemency from Marcellus Williams. They did not
Speaker 3: believe the case held water NA evidence did not match
Speaker 3: we talked about that was contaminated. Something that occurred between
Speaker 3: the time we first spoke about this and this evening
Speaker 3: is it's unprecedented. The prosecution and the defense issued a
Speaker 3: joint statement saying, we believe this man is innocent. We
Speaker 3: learned about this initially through things like our friends at
Speaker 3: Wrongful Conviction and Lava for Good, our friends at the
Speaker 3: Innocence Project. What is astonishing here, and I'm sure a
Speaker 3: lot of us have seen this on social media, is
Speaker 3: that it appears that everything that would have led to
Speaker 3: reasonable doubt or an appeal right, or at least a
Speaker 3: delay in execution, it was ignored. This guy was following
Speaker 3: through the correct steps of the system, but still every
Speaker 3: possible avenue is treated as though it didn't matter. Now,
Speaker 3: have you guys heard about this case? Have you guys
Speaker 3: seen this bumping around on the I.
Speaker 4: Mean I remember it from the LAVA panel that I
Speaker 4: had not heard the execution took place until just now.
Speaker 4: It's heartbreaking.
Speaker 2: I've just been seeing Maggie Freeling I think you said
Speaker 2: your last name.
Speaker 4: Talking about it a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, one of the hosts of Wrongful conviction along
Speaker 3: with Jason Flum, I wanted to learn how this could happen,
Speaker 3: like what is the rationale? Because ultimately the governor could
Speaker 3: have given clemency right or the state Supreme Court could
Speaker 3: have responded to these issues. This is going to be disturbing.
Speaker 3: We will read in part the statement of Missouri Governor
Speaker 3: Mike Parson in his justification of this murder of what
Speaker 3: I believe to be an innocent man. Governor Parson says
Speaker 3: in part, capital punishment cases are some of the hardest
Speaker 3: issues we have to address in the Governor's office. But
Speaker 3: when it comes down to it, I follow the law
Speaker 3: and trust the integrity of our judicial system. Mister Williams
Speaker 3: has exhausted due process and every judicial avenue, including over
Speaker 3: fifteen hearings attempting to argue his innocence and overturn his conviction.
Speaker 3: No jury, no court, including at the trial, appellate and
Speaker 3: Supreme court levels, have ever found merit in mister Williams's
Speaker 3: innocence claims. At the end of the day, his guilty,
Speaker 3: verdict and sentence of capital punishment were upheld. Nothing from
Speaker 3: the real facts of this case have led me to
Speaker 3: believe in mister Williams's innocence as such, mister williams punishment
Speaker 3: will be carried out as ordered by the Supreme Court.
Speaker 3: And then he goes on, well, let's stop there. What
Speaker 3: do you guys think about that rationale? Seen some headshakes.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm reading the message from the governor there. It's
Speaker 2: just yeah, sorry, I'm still kind of processing all of it.
Speaker 4: I mean same, it's given what we know and what
Speaker 4: we know about cases like this, and how so often
Speaker 4: justice is not carried out. For something to have this
Speaker 4: level of finality to it, I think is just like
Speaker 4: the ultimate head shaking kind of moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I love that point the the victim's
Speaker 3: family said, don't kill this person, not because you know,
Speaker 3: we're practicing forgiveness, but because we don't think he's the murderer.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 3: The DNA evidence doesn't match. Further the uh there there
Speaker 3: was a shoeprint, fingerprints, hair found at the seeing, none
Speaker 3: of which matched Williams. I cannot overemphasize how rare and
Speaker 3: extraordinary it is for the prosecutor's office and the defense
Speaker 3: office to say, don't do this. Yeah, this is not
Speaker 3: how justice is supposed to work.
Speaker 2: I wonder if it has anything to do with a
Speaker 2: severity like the brutality of the murder of Felicia, because
Speaker 2: she was stabbed forty three times. You know, when she
Speaker 2: was discovered basically by the crime scene investigators or the
Speaker 2: first responders, she had the knife still lodged in her neck,
Speaker 2: and you can imagine that that kind of brutal crime,
Speaker 2: at least in the beginning. I think it is the
Speaker 2: thing we talked about in the beginning, there was such
Speaker 2: pressure to find whoever the heck did that, you know,
Speaker 2: something so terrible. Not that murdering anyone at any time
Speaker 2: isn't awful, but that kind of thing, it's just there's
Speaker 2: something inhuman about it. And I imagine that pressure was
Speaker 2: tremendous to put somebody behind bars for doing this. And
Speaker 2: I think it's that thing that you guys talked about
Speaker 2: on the panel with Lava for Good. It's almost like
Speaker 2: once law enforcement starts going down a path, and like
Speaker 2: a district attorney signs up for a case, it's like
Speaker 2: you can't take the wheels off the thing critical mass.
Speaker 3: The case was reviewed by the not just the top
Speaker 3: legal boffins in Missouri, but by our own SCOTUS, the
Speaker 3: United States Supreme Court just hours before the execution, and
Speaker 3: the Supreme Court ultimately denied the request. So this did
Speaker 3: get all the way to the top judicial authorities in
Speaker 3: the land. However, I do take issue. I think we
Speaker 3: all can with another part of Governor Parson's statement, which
Speaker 3: we'll read part of it, let's figure out how we
Speaker 3: feel about this. Parson, in co signing the state sponsored
Speaker 3: murder of an innocent man, said, I also want to
Speaker 3: add how deeply disturbed we've been about how this case
Speaker 3: has been covered. Mister Williams's attorney chose to muddy the
Speaker 3: waters about DNA evidence claims. Sorry, my tone is very
Speaker 3: snarky here, claims of which courts have repeatedly rejected. Yet,
Speaker 3: says Parson, some media outlets and activist groups have continued
Speaker 3: such claims without so much of a mention of the
Speaker 3: judicial proceedings or an unbiased analysis of the facts. I
Speaker 3: would just implore the media to do their due diligence
Speaker 3: and not rely on the sole claims of individuals who
Speaker 3: have a personal or monetary stake in this case. Ah
Speaker 3: So he's also kind of saying fake news.
Speaker 6: Is that what he's doing.
Speaker 4: It's just a it's pretty half hearted deflesh.
Speaker 3: It feels. Yeah, it feels incredibly unclean. You know, I
Speaker 3: might sound like a broken record or repeating what we
Speaker 3: said in June, but this just does not make sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just as a as a devil's advocate position.
Speaker 2: I'm reading this thing from the governor that was written.
Speaker 2: I think at least what Mike Parson is saying here is,
Speaker 2: look at all of these bullet pointed things that I've
Speaker 2: also included at the end of my statement. These are
Speaker 2: all things that, at least in the eyes of me
Speaker 2: and the people I've represent in my state, this is
Speaker 2: why we.
Speaker 5: Are executing this person.
Speaker 2: And it includes things like Felicia Gale's personal items were
Speaker 2: found in the trunk of mister William's car. And I
Speaker 2: don't know all the all the you know, details of
Speaker 2: the case. I didn't watch any of the stuff. I
Speaker 2: don't know anything about it. I imagine if there's a
Speaker 2: fact something like that, I don't know. I think you
Speaker 2: make up your mind sometimes with law enforcement.
Speaker 3: That yeah, yeah, I see that, And there's a narrative,
Speaker 3: and I appreciate you looking at that. So you can
Speaker 3: find this statement at Governor dot MO dot gov. Again
Speaker 3: came out September twenty fourth, just a few days as
Speaker 3: we record, and there is you know, this is what
Speaker 3: the governor sees as the justification for this. I would
Speaker 3: challenge the governor, however, to respond to the idea that
Speaker 3: this is spinning a narrative, given that some of these
Speaker 3: bullet points are based on witness testimony, one of whom
Speaker 3: Henry Cole was paid five thousand dollars to help spin
Speaker 3: the web, and Laura Asaro, who named Marcellus as the
Speaker 3: culprit is one of the primary sources upon which the
Speaker 3: conviction rests. Now, we're not saying anybody is perfect nor
Speaker 3: a paragon of I'm thinking of synonyms for perfect. I
Speaker 3: lost my posaurus. Not only is it inconvenient, it's also inconvenient. Uh,
Speaker 3: what a dumb joke. The thing here is that we
Speaker 3: see inconclusive evidence, and when we're talking about something like
Speaker 3: the state exercising the power to end a human life
Speaker 3: right non consensually, then this is beyond the realm of
Speaker 3: reasonable you know, suspicion or probable cause. You have to
Speaker 3: know for sure if.
Speaker 2: You're doing this, well, what is the reason to just
Speaker 2: go ahead and carry out that sentence? Rather than just hold,
Speaker 2: what's the big problem? Is it going to cost the
Speaker 2: state too much money for a prosecutor?
Speaker 4: Don't you think it comes down to politics or it
Speaker 4: came down to somebody making the call, whether it be
Speaker 4: a governor or what have you. Like, I mean, just
Speaker 4: let's put it behind us. Is that kind of thinking?
Speaker 4: You know? I don't know.
Speaker 5: As long as.
Speaker 2: It's not a political move. Can you imagine, like it's
Speaker 2: a governor that's going to be up for reelection and
Speaker 2: wants to show that he's hard on crime.
Speaker 4: That's what.
Speaker 3: De Yeah, tough on crime is a big selling point
Speaker 3: in Missouri policy.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: These are incredibly valid and disturbingly relevant questions. These are
Speaker 3: the questions that we shouldn't have to be asking, yet
Speaker 3: we must, because in a very real sense, there are
Speaker 3: conspiracies of foot. The justice system is in intense need
Speaker 3: of repair in the United States. I think many of
Speaker 3: us listening tonight can agree the aspects of it are broken,
Speaker 3: regardless of where you find yourself in the spectrum of
Speaker 3: pro or anti death penalty, regardless of where you find yourself,
Speaker 3: and the idea of you know, mandatory sentencing or other
Speaker 3: policy things. Also, by the way, related to last meals
Speaker 3: to spend the human moment. Williams had chicken wings and
Speaker 3: tater tots and he was a poet because he had
Speaker 3: been incarcerated, he had found religion. He was a religious
Speaker 3: leader in the prison system. And his last you know,
Speaker 3: you can find his poetry online and I'll say it objectively,
Speaker 3: he's very well written. And his last statement, which is
Speaker 3: terrifying that there's a form for this. They apparently gave
Speaker 3: him a form where you say, you write out your
Speaker 3: last statement, and it looks like a worksheet that you
Speaker 3: would get in grade school. And his last statement was
Speaker 3: all praise be to Allah in every situation. And you know,
Speaker 3: we talk a lot about funny, weird stories. Who's putting
Speaker 3: drugs in?
Speaker 4: What you know?
Speaker 3: And what are the octopus up to this time? But
Speaker 3: the but but for this, I think there's something enormous
Speaker 3: at play. H Noel Matt. This is the third person
Speaker 3: executed in Missouri in recent history. The people involved in
Speaker 3: the system are telling or we're begging the system not
Speaker 3: to execute this man, right to at least re examine
Speaker 3: the case, and the system said no. And I think
Speaker 3: that's a dangerous precedent. Am I being an alarmist or
Speaker 3: as that.
Speaker 4: I mean, No, I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think we got to take away
Speaker 2: the state's ability to kill people.
Speaker 5: If you're gonna if.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be killing people, gotta be a military there
Speaker 2: has to be a civil war, uh oh mas, or
Speaker 2: to be a different direction, buddy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm so up to my neck.
Speaker 3: I was talking about this in group TEMs so up
Speaker 3: to my neck and weird Middle East news. That's right,
Speaker 3: there's more than American to the world. We can't wait
Speaker 3: to hear your thoughts on this, folks. We had some
Speaker 3: great correspondence about the death penalty when it may or
Speaker 3: may not be necessary, how to know a person's guilt
Speaker 3: or innocence, and the problems with the justice system not
Speaker 3: just here in the States but abroad. And we can't
Speaker 3: wait to hear more from you regarding this. We don't
Speaker 3: want to end on a negative note.
Speaker 2: So when talking about Russia's rules of engagement with nukes.
Speaker 6: Sorry Thermobaric. Hey, Thermoberic is like tag and base write
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Speaker 3: But here is something I thought would make everybody a
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Speaker 4: Hey, I love to hear it.
Speaker 6: You'll love to see it.
Speaker 3: So adjusted for inflation, I think that's something like two
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty thousand. I don't know, depending on when
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Speaker 2: But oh, but he did ask for nine and a
Speaker 2: half million.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's how the negotiation works, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Always ask big.
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