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Speaker 1: Hey, well, welcome back to beat your happy Hour. I'm

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Speaker 1: Joe and we are here today with Blake moins Play. Welcome.

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Speaker 2: It's nice to catch up every once in a while,

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Speaker 2: isn't it? It is? It is, it is.

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Speaker 1: Where are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm in Costa Rica right now, in the Limont area.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that is, but yeah, it's nice right along the coast.

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Speaker 1: I did talk to them on I called the did that?

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Speaker 4: Oh my god?

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Speaker 5: I called the center that you're working when Sooner actually

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Speaker 5: confirmed you were there?

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Speaker 4: That was over on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: The guy answered. The guy answered, and he's I'm like,

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Speaker 1: can you tell me what room? Could you connect me

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Speaker 1: to Blake Moyes's room. He's like, sir, hotel, Yeah, hotel,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Blake, I go, I go. Can you

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Speaker 1: least can you let me know if Sosa was there?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yes, they wore here filming. I was like, okay, okay, that's.

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Speaker 5: Good track, because everyone listening is going to be like,

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Speaker 5: why is Joe stalking Blake unprovoked?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so and Blake. This is kind of the

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Speaker 1: first time you're going to be hearing it coming from

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Speaker 1: my mouth because I had, I had. We were texting

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Speaker 1: and dming, but we haven't really spoke. So Serena and

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Speaker 1: I were coming back, coming back from iheartjingle Ball. We

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Speaker 1: were in the delta terminal at Lax and there was

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Speaker 1: rumors that we had heard over the time of being

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Speaker 1: at the jingle Ball that they were about to film

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Speaker 1: Hometown's for Taylor Frankie Paul and I just got it uncrustable.

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting there, I'm waiting, I'm eating my own crustable.

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Speaker 1: I'm fidgeting with my headphones, and it's over the over

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Speaker 1: the loudspeaker.

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Speaker 5: You hear, you hear final boarding call for flight blah

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Speaker 5: blah blah blah, paging passengers.

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Speaker 4: Insert producer's name on the Bachelor's.

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Speaker 1: Producer who we know well. Her her name.

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Speaker 5: Yep, and then a few other names, and then Blake

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Speaker 5: points and I look at Joe and I'm like, did

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Speaker 5: you hear that?

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Speaker 4: Did you just hear what I think I just heard?

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, I did I did hear that? Like

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Speaker 1: I did hear? Did she just say? Blake poins? Five

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Speaker 1: minutes later, they do it again, producer's name Blake Mooins.

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Speaker 1: So now I'm like, this crazy motherfucker went back on

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Speaker 1: the Bachelorette. I can't believe he's back on the Bachelorette.

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Speaker 1: So I instantly FaceTime you. You're not answering me, and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get up. We're over by that gate. We're just waiting.

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Speaker 1: At this point, I'm like, we're catching you in the

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Speaker 1: act world.

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Speaker 5: It's you and the producer runing to the gate because

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Speaker 5: you're about to miss your flight. And you guys just

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Speaker 5: see Joe and I standing there being like, Hi, what

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Speaker 5: the heck is going on? You're a menace. I can't

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Speaker 5: believe you're back on this show. But yeah, you guys

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Speaker 5: never show up obviously.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So with all that information being said, Blake, the

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Speaker 1: floor is yours?

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Speaker 5: Plead your case or are you on Taylor Frankie policies.

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Speaker 4: Of the batch set?

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Speaker 2: That is wild because I've never heard of another Blake mooins.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And the coincidence of everything plus.

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Speaker 3: Knowing that, yeah, like I have done a couple of

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Speaker 3: them to go back again, as like, if there's anyone

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Speaker 3: that's going to do it, it's probably that fucker.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it wouldn't. But it's not even that because

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Speaker 1: if it was anyone's name that I know, like you

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Speaker 1: don't hate your name's not Your name's not Blake Johnson,

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Speaker 1: because if it was Blake Johnson, I would say there's

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Speaker 1: definitely another Blake Johnson or Mike Johnson. But if Blake

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Speaker 1: Mooines is a particular name, you don't hear it too often.

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Speaker 1: You're the only Blake Mooins I know. So I don't

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Speaker 1: even know how to make sense of this unless.

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Speaker 3: You're trying to convince yourself still that I was there somehow.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, but but why are they called?

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Speaker 3: What the fuck is you?

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Speaker 2: Who?

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Speaker 1: There's another Blake Mooines with a Bachelor producer on the

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Speaker 1: same flight flying to Taylor Frankie Paul's season. I just

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Speaker 1: it's just it's just so insane to me. It's just

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Speaker 1: it's just a crazy coincidence. But you were not, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's not you, right, No.

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Speaker 3: Listen, we like the speculation, right, and like the thing

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Speaker 3: is is, like you know, I stuck on to Katie's

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Speaker 3: and so, you know, leave it up to the imaginations.

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Speaker 2: Just gonna have to tune in and see, you know, but.

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Speaker 3: Listen, I'm all over the world, so it's easy for

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Speaker 3: me to jump in there quick, you know, try to

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Speaker 3: make a Mark and then dip.

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Speaker 2: It's not that. It's not that crazy and you'll just

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Speaker 2: have to watch.

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Speaker 4: And Joe and I are so crazy.

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Speaker 5: We're doing the math of like, Okay, if he got

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Speaker 5: sent home at the Rose ceremony after Hometowns, he could

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Speaker 5: have gotten on a flight last night and he could

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Speaker 5: be in Coast Rica by this morning, So it doesn't

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Speaker 5: actually mean he wasn't on the show, even if he

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Speaker 5: wasn't on this flight, Like we are doing.

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Speaker 1: All can you posted your coaster footage? I go, that

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Speaker 1: is old footage. He's resurfacing. This guy's trying to be

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Speaker 1: slick and it's so obvious. Like I would have bet,

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Speaker 1: like me and Zach were going back and forth, I

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Speaker 1: would have bet him a lot of.

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Speaker 4: Money, like what you did on Sunday. Now.

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Speaker 1: So then we're sitting there Sunday and Zach's over. We're

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Speaker 1: sitting here, we're watching football. I like, I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: he's there. He's like, he's not there. Like I talked

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Speaker 1: to him, he's not there. I'm like, he's there. He's

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Speaker 1: lying to you. So I called I find out where

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Speaker 1: you are in Costa Rica? And I called the play.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a hotel but it was like

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Speaker 1: it was like a rescue center and I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: connect us to Blake's room. He's like, Sir, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what you think this is, but I did get

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Speaker 1: the information that that Sosa was there.

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Speaker 5: He goes, I'm actually looking for Sosa and they're like, oh,

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Speaker 5: so Sa, Yeah they're here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Sosa for everyone. Also, Sosa is Blake's wildlife company. Right,

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Speaker 1: do you want to talk about Sosa at all?

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Speaker 4: Let's get into that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get into that because I.

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Speaker 5: Basically talked for the first half minutes of this interview,

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Speaker 5: but we wanted to update you on the journey you

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Speaker 5: have sent a.

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Speaker 1: So besides going back on Taylor Frankie Paul season at

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Speaker 1: the Bachelorette, what have you been up to Blake?

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Speaker 3: So yeah, So, I mean listen as much as it

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Speaker 3: would be in a really interesting throw into that that season.

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Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not on Taylor Frankie Paul season. I

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Speaker 3: am currently in Costa Rica and here you can see

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Speaker 3: actually there's just a slough that we just just out

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Speaker 3: here up in this tree here out of Airbnb, and

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Speaker 3: we're out here with conservation organizations doing some work.

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Speaker 2: John. So I'm not there. I got here on the third.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what and.

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Speaker 4: What were you doing before you went there?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm I'm through a lot of airports, right, so

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Speaker 3: those layovers, I was a bunch of different places, right.

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Speaker 5: Okay, do you foresee yourself being the father of three

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Speaker 5: Mormon children anytime soon?

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Speaker 3: I listen, like, I don't. I don't say never ever. Unlikely,

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Speaker 3: very unlikely. And that's what I'll leave you with. But

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Speaker 3: you know if we yeah, I think that.

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Speaker 1: So when you are so you're so, explain to us

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Speaker 1: a little bit about what your company, SOSA is, and

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Speaker 1: like you're in Costa Rica. Now are you spending like

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Speaker 1: are you having like days off or you go like

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Speaker 1: twenty four to seven? What does it look like?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, I mean most most of the times it's

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Speaker 3: This is a bit of a down day because we

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Speaker 3: just got out of an area where we had no

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Speaker 2: And what's when I got your text of like so

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Speaker 2: like so like all this.

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Speaker 3: Stuff, and I'm like, when there's multiple people in you know,

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Speaker 3: out thinking, like what's happening in Sault, Like, why is

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Speaker 3: everyone asking me about in Salt? Like, what's happening in Salt? Like, No,

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Speaker 3: we's got out of an area, no Wi Fi, no

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Speaker 3: cell service for three days. Sosa Sabors Piece of Alliance

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Speaker 3: is my wildlife conservation organization. It's a company's a for profit.

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Speaker 3: We work with multiple nonprofits in the space all over

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Speaker 3: the world. And that's why I'm traveling NonStop and could

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Speaker 3: have pacily passed through wherever you guys were at the airport.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, out here just doing work with different nonprofits.

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Speaker 3: We're actually setting up an experience here and helping leverage

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Speaker 3: some of the initiatives that are happening with our nonprofit partners.

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Speaker 3: Uh So we're media storytelling, doing some vetting to make

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Speaker 3: sure that we are aligning with the right you know,

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Speaker 1: What animals are are out there in Costa Rica? Like

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Speaker 1: I feel like you always go like and I'm ignorant

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Speaker 1: when it comes to what you do, but like like

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Speaker 1: you're like, oh, maybe we'll go see penguins. Like is

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Speaker 1: there like a certain like animal that you are trying

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Speaker 1: to conserve right now?

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Speaker 2: No, that's that's well, but that's the way you put it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good. These are these are two way streets.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna learn a lot and the more that we

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Speaker 3: have these chats show you'll be an expert by the

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Speaker 3: end of it. But down here it's it's very diverse,

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Speaker 3: so you could have anything. We went on on a

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Speaker 3: of the most venomous snakes all different types of amphibians.

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Speaker 3: What is it called a verti lance.

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Speaker 1: So it's so if you get if you get bit

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Speaker 3: You're not getting treatment, you're you're in a heap of

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Speaker 3: trouble for sure. Like if and especially in the areas

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Speaker 3: in trouble. And we're walking down the trail the night.

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Speaker 3: We've got our headlamps on and flashlights, and this juvenile

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Speaker 3: a lot of trouble. And then we slowed down for

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, you didn't have to the first one.

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Speaker 5: Go like, let's circle back, let's get out of here.

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Speaker 3: In this specific area where we were in the altitude

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Speaker 3: in this like wetland, marshy, like mountainous range. Essentially, they're

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Speaker 3: You just have to have your eyes peeled especially.

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Speaker 4: You know they're there. You know there's gonna you're going

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Speaker 4: to encounter them. It's just how to do it safely.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I just didn't realize there's going to be

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Speaker 3: I mean there's there's all sloths is a huge thing here,

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Speaker 3: right and you think about Costa Riki, you think about sloths.

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Speaker 3: we've brought on all these new hires and if you're

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00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 3: gonna make it happen, like your energy needs to go

436
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 3: into that. But I do suffer and struggle because I

437
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 3: have no social life when it comes to to meeting people.

438
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 3: I don't meet people in Costa Rica in the jungle

439
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,919
Speaker 3: when we're sweating buckets and disgusting, and your mind's not

440
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 3: even in that. You know, when you have so much

441
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 3: going on, you have to execute on so many things.

442
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 3: So when I'm home, like, yeah, I might meet somebody

443
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 3: for a date. But I think the struggle is this

444
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 3: is even as as credible, as incredible as they can be,

445
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 3: or I walk away from a date and be like

446
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 3: great girl, and like.

447
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 2: It's such a disservice to.

448
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 3: I don't want to cut myself off because I'm also

449
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,919
Speaker 3: it's unhealthy to like completely close the door and like, but.

450
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: You are in a way, in a way you you

451
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: and it's not like this is an uncommon scenario. You're

452
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 1: you're someone who's essential married to your work. For now,

453
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: like you're you're like your what you're doing, your passion

454
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 1: is your job. You have everything writing in it, so

455
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: it's gonna come first you no matter how great the

456
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 1: day it is.

457
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 2: I mean, right, definitely, the thing is is I do where?

458
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 2: So we've came to this pinnacle.

459
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 3: Essentially, my brother, thankfully works reporter as a pilot, has

460
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,239
Speaker 3: left his day job. Within he was doing a lot

461
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 3: of the actual training, so working in the office the

462
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 3: times he wasn't flying, so you like you know, fly

463
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 3: certain mount hours per week. Essentially, he's now coming on board.

464
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 3: He's taking his master's in business. We align on everything,

465
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 3: so he's gonna be able to take my seat essentially

466
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 3: to like help free up time a lot of my

467
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 3: time because I can't continue at this pace. Number one,

468
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 3: for like my own social you know, relationship healthy with friends, family,

469
00:23:55,160 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 3: let alone, you know, relationship romantically, and then just burn out.

470
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 3: Like it's as much as it looks glamorous to do

471
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 3: this consistently. Like there's times where I came out of

472
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 3: I was in Australia, Thailand, Kenya on the border of Somalia,

473
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 3: back to Zambia, back to Kenya, South Africa within you know,

474
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 3: a two month period. It didn't touch home and it's

475
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 3: like you just burn out. I was right. I was like,

476
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 3: I want to go home. And who says that when

477
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 3: they're in Kenya? Right, So we have things have to change,

478
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 3: things have to change here. But I do see, you know,

479
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 3: some light at the end of the tunnel here finally

480
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 3: with things rounding out and these new hire settling in

481
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 3: and my brother coming on, where I can start to

482
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 3: like live a little bit, and you know, there was

483
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 3: another opportunity and Joe, I know I mentioned to you

484
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 3: where there was two different opportunities that presented me for

485
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 3: other networks and things. And last minute I pulled out.

486
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 3: I was like, I can't go and do this. I'm

487
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 3: not ready for this. And if if I'm not going

488
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 3: to be fully present and no, I can't give energy.

489
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 3: If I meet someone who's absolutely incredible and they see

490
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 3: me as lack of effort, you know, lack of energy

491
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 3: and time to something I want to give but can't,

492
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 3: and they see like this guy doesn't give a shit,

493
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 3: He's just one of these another one of these guys.

494
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 3: It's like, it's not that I'm like doing it out

495
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 3: of anything other than just really trying to make you know,

496
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 3: this dream really work. And I don't want to It's

497
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 3: almost like I don't want to meet someone that I

498
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 3: really like in this period when I can't give them.

499
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 3: I don't want them to see me in a light

500
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 3: that is not me normally when things settle and I

501
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 3: have the time and energy to give somebody that they

502
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 3: you know, deserve, especially someone.

503
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: That I really like. What is.

504
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: Incredible to you? Like, do you do you think you

505
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: need to find a partner who is who is as

506
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: ambitious as you are? Like that is that a deal

507
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: breaker for you? Do you need someone who is also

508
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: in love or at least knows their passion?

509
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 2: Because I do.

510
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 1: You know, there is a lot of people, There are

511
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,959
Speaker 1: a lot of people out there that they haven't found that.

512
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people out there that are

513
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: just like chilling and happy with what they do, but

514
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: like it's not their passion, they don't really care that

515
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: much about it.

516
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: I think there's two different ways with this. I think one, Yeah, fantastic.

517
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 3: They're ambitious and have all their things going on, right

518
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 3: I understand the importance of feeling supported right like, and

519
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 3: if I don't have some of that understands and supports,

520
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 3: then I'm it's always going to feel like I've got

521
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: to choose and.

522
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: I don't want to ever have thating.

523
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 3: So one, having someone that has something that they're passionate

524
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,479
Speaker 3: about or ambitious or drive would be great because one,

525
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, there's the talk and alignment across

526
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 3: you know, both of our passions or projects where we're

527
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 3: working on. You know, it's supportive and having that that

528
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 3: layer support is huge. Now flip side, most people don't

529
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 3: have that totally fine, and I never really did until

530
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 3: six years ago when I realized this is what I wanted

531
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 3: to do.

532
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: And if it's more of a.

533
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: Sedentary anyways, I know what we're looking.

534
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 2: For, Jesus.

535
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: Ambitious guys, fucking idiots.

536
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: We can't even yes, but you know what you know, yes.

537
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: I know the word.

538
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. That is also.

539
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 3: Seems so great to want to come home too, right

540
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: where I can check out and come back to that

541
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: and like settle into that, But I think I need

542
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 3: to be in a better place to be able to

543
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 3: check out and be more present when I'm with that

544
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 3: person and we can just settle into what life will

545
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 3: be and what family would be, and like going to

546
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 3: the gym and going to get as SMOOTHI or whatever

547
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 3: those things are. But if my mind is always another

548
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 3: place because of all these crazy things happening, then that

549
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 3: won't necessarily work and it won't be great for her.

550
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 3: And then the other thing is just at least understanding.

551
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 3: I don't like support an understanding, I think, and I

552
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: think you can see that like when I especially when

553
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: I date and things like when I speak about wildlife,

554
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 3: I get really riled up and I can get you know,

555
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 3: passionate about things, and so they can see that, and

556
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 3: so yeah, their understanding of everything and supportive. I don't

557
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 3: think it really matters what lane that that potential woman

558
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 3: is in.

559
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like you need someone who's either totally

560
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 5: cool with you being gone for work a lot, and

561
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 5: it's either like got their own thing going, or is

562
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 5: like you do you, I'm doing me at home, see

563
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 5: you when you get back, or is going to immerse

564
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 5: themselves in your work because it's a shared passion.

565
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

566
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 3: The other the other thing that like and this is

567
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 3: this is the like what I there's so many times

568
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 3: where I'm out here doing this and like, you know

569
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 3: what it could be this really insane moment. I'm like, yeah,

570
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 3: it's great that I have like a team around me

571
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 3: that like it was like that was fucking crazy, Like

572
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: how incredible was that? But like to be able to

573
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 3: share that with someone that you love or someone that

574
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 3: has never done that before, where it's like you're bringing

575
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: like something to them that like is an experience or

576
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: an emotion or a feeling that they would never get otherwise.

577
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: It's like a gift, Like there's there's something to this,

578
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 3: Like if you're trying to think of like how can

579
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 3: you bring someone the most joy or like the best

580
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: life possible, It's like there's a lot of moments across

581
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 3: my life and all these experiences where I'm like, fuck,

582
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 3: it would be cool to like share this with somebody.

583
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: So that day will maybe happen, But until then, just

584
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: keep doing my thing.

585
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: Okay, would you uh, you got a question, would you

586
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: ever go back on let's say, let's say uh.

587
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 5: For the sake of the hypothetical let's say you didn't

588
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 5: go on Taylor Frankie Paul's season, and Joe and I

589
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 5: are conspiracy theorists. If they came, she would said, we've

590
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 5: got a girl either on Paradise or as a bachelorette,

591
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 5: and we think that you guys would be a fit.

592
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 4: Would you ever consider going back.

593
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: On I mean yeah, I mean listen, I think depending

594
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 3: on this there and there's so many different factors obviously

595
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 3: Batchel that it's a bit of stretch because like that's

596
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: not really as fun like Paradise is fun.

597
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: I think maybe a different.

598
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 3: Concept and sense of, like I don't it would be

599
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 3: great to not go on something that is like buying

600
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: your person, find your person love or romance love love

601
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 3: like heavy heavy in that set. In that sense, maybe

602
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 3: a different concept or a blend or something is not

603
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: as serious in this exact moment where it's more playful,

604
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 3: it's not it's more easy going, where I don't feel

605
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: like that is the full premise of like you got

606
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 3: here to find love, right, because I know I won't

607
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 3: be able to deliver in that sense. Can I deliver

608
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 3: with entertainment and some crazy shit? Yeah, Like I could

609
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 3: do that for sure, And I don't shut away from that,

610
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 3: but it depends.

611
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, that makes sense.

612
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 5: We saw that you are going on the cruise, the

613
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 5: Bachelor Nation Cruise next November.

614
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 4: What can you tell us about that.

615
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 3: Well, for one, I think the reason that I'm looking

616
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 3: forward to it most is one I actually don't outside

617
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: of like seeing you guys the odd time Zach here

618
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: and there, like I don't really get to go and

619
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,239
Speaker 3: do or involve myself too much in a lot of

620
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 3: this space as much as I used to. But I

621
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 3: do have a lot of fun when I'm in those

622
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 3: environments and diving into that. So one, I think it's

623
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 3: going to be fun to actually be with all of

624
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 3: these you know, people in this space that when I

625
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 3: haven't met, or some that I haven't.

626
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: Seen in a long time.

627
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 3: But it seems like there's a great list of activities,

628
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 3: and I know we're working through a bunch more and

629
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 3: I gave them a whole long list of some crazy

630
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: fun things we can be doing, and I.

631
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: Know there's slowly rulling those outs.

632
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,479
Speaker 3: So there's a little morning chat where I'm going through

633
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: all my wild life stories and things and diving into

634
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 3: some crazy near death situations and just some behind the

635
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: scenes things. But yeah, I think it's gonna be three

636
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: days where for the most part, I've never had a

637
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: bad run in with someone who is again of the show,

638
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 3: and so I think it's gonna be super optimistic, fun, lighthearted,

639
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 3: and for me, it's a nice to be able to

640
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 3: check out and like actually go and do something that

641
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 3: doesn't feel like it's a job, and on vacation and

642
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 3: on a boat that is like luxury versus like a

643
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: rickety Amazon riverboat.

644
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not like threatening snakes hopefully.

645
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: Well, Blake, this was a lot of fun talking to you.

646
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: Always a pleasure. If you Oh, we'll be uh, We'll

647
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: be in Toronto for starting the nineteenth, for like twelve

648
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: days around Christmas. If you are around, we'd love to

649
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: get a drink.

650
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be back.

651
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 3: I get back on the fifth, fourteenth, fifteenth, and then

652
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: I'm around for that whole period of time, Okay, And

653
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 3: I'm due, and I'm realistically I am due.

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Speaker 2: I drink like four times a year. Four times a year.

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Speaker 3: I usually let loose a little bit too much on

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Speaker 3: those four times just to make up for all the

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Speaker 3: times in between.

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Speaker 2: But you know, that's where I'm the most fun.

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Speaker 1: Yes, all right, well yeah let me I'll hit you

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Speaker 1: up or hit me up when you are in the city.

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Speaker 1: And to all our listeners, thank you guys so much

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Speaker 1: for tuning in the bet you're happy, or make sure

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Speaker 1: then ardis.

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