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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Steph

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Speaker 1: I never told your production of iHeart Radio, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to another segment of Sex in the City viewing with

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Speaker 1: any who's never seen it before. We are on episode five,

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Speaker 1: so slowly coming through with our watch and viewing parties

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Speaker 1: and hopefully you all enjoying it as well. Um. Again,

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Speaker 1: we can release the watch along with us if you

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Speaker 1: Can we ask for more money? I'm just kidding, um,

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Speaker 1: but we are on episode five and can you give

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Speaker 1: us a recap of all the recaps? Okay, okay, let

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Speaker 1: me try to make it different than the last week gap.

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Speaker 1: I did. So we got introduced to the characters. They

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Speaker 1: went to a club. They made a lot of nineties

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Speaker 1: references that probably many of us don't get, and there

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Speaker 1: they talked about many topics that we still discussed today,

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Speaker 1: including the differences between how men and women have sex.

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Speaker 1: I would say, beauty versus intelligent stereotypes. Um. And then

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Speaker 1: of married pigs. Yes, alright, alright, so that's good. That's good.

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Speaker 1: So we are now on episode five and the title

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Speaker 1: of this episode is The Power of Female Sex. What

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Speaker 1: that and getting men to do stuff through doing that,

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Speaker 1: or the opposite. And I know this is cheating, but

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Speaker 1: would be failings. And we're starting I'm kind of somebody

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Speaker 1: Oh Sham is coming in and saying, she's kind of somebody.

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Speaker 1: I have never felt confident enough to say that in

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Speaker 1: If you need to open a restaurant that allows me

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Speaker 1: to go to the popular, can we please talk about

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, if it was a man, Sam would have

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Speaker 1: ran into her Italian friend who was dating and a

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Speaker 1: poker night. I love it. I do love that this

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Speaker 1: The Rain of Bob, the Harvard Love of Lorrain of Bob.

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Speaker 1: I think you're beautiful right there. I think you're too

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Speaker 1: I do find it funny that she is the joker

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Speaker 1: but we all do it, right, I this is my

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Speaker 1: for a long while. M hm. But that's exactly what

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Speaker 1: the couples as a single person, but like in general

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Speaker 1: the list. There's something it's about women's bathrooms really can

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