WEBVTT - I Like Your Hate Speech

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty and now he Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>All of this is happening in the background of the

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<v Speaker 3>big thing that the entire region is waiting for, which

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<v Speaker 3>is what will Israel's response to those one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>eighty ballistic missiles filed by the Iranians just about two

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<v Speaker 3>days ago. What will that response look like? And of

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<v Speaker 3>course that is what is going to set the tone

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<v Speaker 3>and the tempo for this really region wide war that

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<v Speaker 3>we're now seeing. We've been talking to the past year

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<v Speaker 3>about the threat of the regionalization of this conflict between

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<v Speaker 3>Iran and Israel. Now we are seeing it in real time,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's up to the Israelis to determine whether or

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<v Speaker 3>not they are going to pummel Aron and invite a

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<v Speaker 3>further escalation, or they're going to restrain themselves as the

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<v Speaker 3>Biden administration seems to be asking them to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Seems to be. Joe Biden was asked specifically yesterday, should

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<v Speaker 2>Israel take out the nuclear facilities? Is no, No, The

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<v Speaker 2>response needs to be proportional, Okay, what's a proportional response

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<v Speaker 2>to having two hundred ballistic missiles shot at you? It

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<v Speaker 2>seems like seems like taking out the entire government would

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<v Speaker 2>be a proportional response. They're trying to take out your

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<v Speaker 2>biggest city.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a major attack like that, And I'm sure Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden will say would say, well, Israel's good at shooting

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<v Speaker 1>down missiles, so a proportional expense is one that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>do much damaging her on either.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's not what proportional response means. But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to get hung up on that thing again. So

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<v Speaker 2>we have new Joe Biden information. He was asked this morning, well,

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<v Speaker 2>let's listen to the clip and then we can discuss.

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<v Speaker 1>Health striking Iran oil facility CERNCE word discussion.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think that would be a little anyway

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<v Speaker 2>swift plan to allow strike back against Ron.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, we don't allow he is real.

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<v Speaker 4>We advis is real, and there's nothing going to happen today.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk about that later.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing going to happen today, which is probably not

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<v Speaker 2>something he should be saying, because that's not the same

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<v Speaker 2>being at war works. You don't like announce today today

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<v Speaker 2>you're in the clear, so stand down. We're not doing

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<v Speaker 2>anything today. That's odd, element I surprise, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and how about to straight out of that Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>Night Live bit the other night he hit us with

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<v Speaker 1>a well, I tell.

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<v Speaker 2>You what anyway?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, whoa, whoa, whoa. That sentence, that sentence, it started

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<v Speaker 1>with such promises.

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<v Speaker 2>What were you going to say? Well, played again. I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to hear that first part again and then

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<v Speaker 2>we'll come in here.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael, do you support is well striking Iran oil facilities?

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<v Speaker 2>Service? Word discuss?

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<v Speaker 5>I think I think that would be a little strip plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I think that would be a little anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he realized he shouldn't be saying that because he

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<v Speaker 2>got in trouble yesterday and rightfully so for saying no

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<v Speaker 2>when asked if they should strike the nuclear facilities. So

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<v Speaker 2>today about the oil refineries, I think that would be

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit we're no. Just saying we're in discussion

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<v Speaker 2>about that obviously puts it on the table like you

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<v Speaker 2>think that'd be okay, which it definitely will be. And

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<v Speaker 2>as he was correct in saying, we don't tell them

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<v Speaker 2>what to do, or shouldn't be telling them what to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Although you know, when you give a country all their stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like if you're if you're adult child

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<v Speaker 2>is going to live at your house. They're adults, but

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<v Speaker 2>they live at your house. So it's not a lot

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<v Speaker 2>like that, You don't think, I well, legally we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have the right to tell Iszuel what to do. But

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if we give them three to five billion

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<v Speaker 2>dollars a year and eight in the planes and the

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<v Speaker 2>bombs and everything like that, and rearm the velvet dome,

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<v Speaker 2>iron dome, I don't know where it came from for them.

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<v Speaker 2>We have some say.

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<v Speaker 1>Some yeah, but I think it's it's reminiscent of all

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<v Speaker 1>of us. All of us have had bosses, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>that are smart and innovative and great leaders. We have

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<v Speaker 1>had mediocre bosses. We have had gutless, spineless bosses who've

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<v Speaker 1>got in the way of the productivity of the enterprise.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care who you are, what the line of

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<v Speaker 1>work you're in, you've probably run into that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Benjamin Not in Yahoo and the Israeli people have a gutless,

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<v Speaker 1>spineless sugar daddy right and Joe Biden, and they are

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<v Speaker 1>managing upward the best they can. They cannot defer to

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<v Speaker 1>his wishes or it will end in defeat, so they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to smooth it the best they can.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. From and what I understand, the sentiment is overwhelming

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<v Speaker 2>in Israel, even though Netanyao himself is not that popular,

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<v Speaker 2>although it's gone up in recent months, it's overwhelmingly popular.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea of hitting Iran directly really really hard. So

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<v Speaker 2>he's on solid political ground in his own country on

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of direct attack on Iran, even though our

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<v Speaker 2>prisons said no, or we're having discussions about well, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think they should. Well anyway, these are a little anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>These are some major decisions like could change world history

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<v Speaker 2>sorts of decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>And these might be lead ups to decisions that are

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<v Speaker 1>ten times as impactful.

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<v Speaker 2>And the guy in charge is, well, we shouldn't. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I probably oughtn't. I think they anyway?

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<v Speaker 1>What I don't think I'm supposed to talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>Jackie Jackie dead or is she here.

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<v Speaker 2>About our institutions now?

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<v Speaker 1>But he's good to go for another four years as

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<v Speaker 1>of like seventy days ago. Effing believe they were claiming

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<v Speaker 1>that with a straight face.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, And I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to, I mean change my words.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm talking to some of Yes, I'm sorry, who's

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<v Speaker 2>from Amas? Wait, there's more. I'm talking to some of

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<v Speaker 2>about there because I've talked to several of you in

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<v Speaker 2>the last couple of days. I brought up the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of I'm concerned about who's making the decisions on a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of this stuff, because I think sometimes Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 2>is capable of being sharp and understanding what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>and making a decision. But I think we all agree

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<v Speaker 2>that there are lots of times he's not, And what

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<v Speaker 2>if something happens when he's not who's making the decisions?

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<v Speaker 2>And as with a few people who said you don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that, I said, no, do you? Yeah, Obama is

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<v Speaker 2>don't you read the news? Obama's making all the decisions

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<v Speaker 2>now him and Hillary. So apparently for some of you,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a story that's floating around somewhere that Obama and

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<v Speaker 2>Hillary are currently running the government. Obama I don't believe that, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank Junior always appreciated. I actually think it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Obama's team that's very influential in the

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<v Speaker 1>Biden White House.

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<v Speaker 2>It's blinking on this stuff. Probably with Sullivan discussing with

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<v Speaker 2>the Secretary Defense. Maybe I don't know, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if the Secretary of State says, I think we should blank,

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<v Speaker 2>the Secretary of Defense might say, you don't tell me

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<v Speaker 2>what to do. So I don't know how to make

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<v Speaker 2>those decisions. That's the problem with not having you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the constitutional order working right now is I don't know how.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I ask who's making the decisions and how,

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<v Speaker 2>because nobody actually has the authority. And let's think we

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead unless Blincoln's coming out of meetings and saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>Lloyd Austin, we need to move another aircraft carrier, or

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<v Speaker 2>on the orders of Joe Biden. You know, he's claiming

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<v Speaker 2>that Joe Biden is saying these things. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just going to say, we've all seen dramas

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<v Speaker 1>of uh, you know, contested wills or succession at a

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<v Speaker 1>company or whatever, where the doddering oldster is being manipulated

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<v Speaker 1>by the young connivers behind the scenes. And then Totter's

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<v Speaker 1>out and says, yeah, I'm not going to bequeath my

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<v Speaker 1>estate quite yet. I've reconsidered, and everybody looks around like

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<v Speaker 1>they got to him somehow, they got to him because

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<v Speaker 1>they're manipulating the old farts, and that's what's happening at

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<v Speaker 1>the White House almost certainly.

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<v Speaker 2>So you think Jake Sullivan goes in there with the

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<v Speaker 2>piece of paper, could you sign this, sir? It's a

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<v Speaker 2>National blueberry Day and it's just important to you said,

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<v Speaker 2>yet it put your name there and date.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a aircraft. It's an aircraft carrier full of bloe.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna donate them to the Polynesians.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Asians. They're dirt hungry keeping their cats.

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<v Speaker 1>And Lloyd Austin's like, what what did you do? You

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<v Speaker 1>conniving bastard. I'm telling you the.

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<v Speaker 2>Movies with his really low voice, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's important consider carefully, Oh, the lighter side

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<v Speaker 2>of the run up to World War three? I hope

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<v Speaker 2>not hope not in here. But it's freaking weird that

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<v Speaker 2>we got a president that's not capable of like understanding

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<v Speaker 2>in any given time, what the hell's going on? Mesh

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<v Speaker 2>for them Inwa unless you want to get the back

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>The Mullas are quaking in their slippers whatever they weardals

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<v Speaker 1>hearing that sort of forcefulness.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting that so much of the world wears pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much only sandals only. Ah, it's warm there hot, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Your feet get all gamy. You don't want that. How

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<v Speaker 1>about a lovely croc for the ayatola. It's got the

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<v Speaker 1>all ventilation holes. They might rock them behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>Where's that Satan's own shoe.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Western decadence, no doubt, but they got them. They

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<v Speaker 1>got them. It's like the all the hypocrisy. Oh, we're

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<v Speaker 1>a devout scholar. I just happen to have seventeen fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old wives, right and.

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<v Speaker 2>Crocs, So you think they walk out and sandals and

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<v Speaker 2>then behind the scenes, Ah, back into my crocs.

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<v Speaker 1>Woo. I wish I could not sporting three hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 1>loafers or whatever Western suits.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, dang it, what a situation. So that was just

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit ago that Joe Biden was asked that

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<v Speaker 2>and how much I mean, this is this is the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest international story in the world right now. How hard

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<v Speaker 2>is Israel going to hit Iran?

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<v Speaker 1>And the President's a little anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>We're still discussing that. I don't know, it's a well anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not gonna happen today. Wow, that was unhelpful.

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<v Speaker 2>All three half sentences were incredibly unhelpful. Yeah, wow, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>we got a lot more on the way.

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<v Speaker 4>Another shocking story coming out of Lebanon that's breaking right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Pagers belonging to members of Hesbola were simultaneously detonated, and

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<v Speaker 4>walkie talkies all over the country began exploding in another

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<v Speaker 4>wave of what appears to be Israeli retaliations, but just

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<v Speaker 4>moments ago, in a truly surreal twist, the rectums of

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<v Speaker 4>goats all over the country exploded at the same time,

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<v Speaker 4>killing an additional one thy eight hundred people and injuring

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<v Speaker 4>thousands of others, as well as killing countless goats. PETA

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<v Speaker 4>has just issued a statement denouncing the actions of the

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<v Speaker 4>IDF for senselessly killing all those goats. However, you'd have

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<v Speaker 4>to think if the IDF was behind this, they may

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<v Speaker 4>have been doing those goats a huge favor.

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<v Speaker 1>How long is that is artificial intelligence generated a fake report?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. You may have played that in violation of

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<v Speaker 2>the state law of California.

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<v Speaker 1>The Gavin News gosh, yeah, the anti parody law.

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<v Speaker 2>That was not Jake Tapper, you know, that fits in

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<v Speaker 2>perfectly with this, did you We didn't talk about John

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<v Speaker 2>Kerry's speech that he gave the other day at the

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<v Speaker 2>World the Economic Forum about the First Amendment, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's really quite amazing. Rather than I'm reading from Jonathan

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<v Speaker 2>Turley's piece in the New York Post today, rather than

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<v Speaker 2>extole the benefits of the democratic liberty versus dictatorships and oligarchs,

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<v Speaker 2>John Kerry, presidential candidate in two thousand and four, former

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<v Speaker 2>Secretary of State called the First Amendment of the United

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<v Speaker 2>States Constitution a major block to keeping people from believing

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong things. Here's the quote. You know, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of discussion. I won't talk like John Cary the

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<v Speaker 2>whole time that would it would be kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's a lot of discussion now about how

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<v Speaker 2>you curb those entities in order to guarantee that you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have some accountability on facts. But look, if

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<v Speaker 2>people only get to one source, and the source they

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<v Speaker 2>go to is sick and you know, has an agenda

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<v Speaker 2>and they're putting out disinformation, our First Amendment stands as

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<v Speaker 2>a major block to be able to just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>hammer it out of existence. So what we need is

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<v Speaker 2>to win the ground, win the right to govern by

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully winning enough votes that you're free to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to implement change. So Jonathan Turley writes, the freedom to

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<v Speaker 2>be won in this election is to liberate officials who

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<v Speaker 2>look like him, who look like himself, can set about

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<v Speaker 2>controlling what can be said, read or heard. Carry insisted

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<v Speaker 2>that the problem with social media is that the one

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<v Speaker 2>who is controlling what they can say or read needs

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<v Speaker 2>to be dealt with. I I so, do you understand

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<v Speaker 2>what the the powerful like John Kerry and some others

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<v Speaker 2>are saying, what their vision of the First Amendment is

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<v Speaker 2>in their way?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think the problem And just as an aside,

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny, I have prepared a First AMENDMENTEE segment next segment,

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<v Speaker 1>which is perfect. I'll talk about it for days. But

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly think and it's hard for normal people like

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<v Speaker 1>y'all and like ourselves. I think to picture having this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of hubris. John Carry actually thinks he and his

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<v Speaker 1>ilk have the wisdom, the knowledge, and the well they

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<v Speaker 1>can be trusted with the power of censorship because they'll

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<v Speaker 1>just censor the things that ought to be censored. They

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<v Speaker 1>will just censor misinformation and disinformation to keep the poor fool.

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<v Speaker 1>So he mentioned, who just see one source from being

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<v Speaker 1>misled by the evil doers, We'll give us that right

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll protect you.

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<v Speaker 2>Carrie went on to say that now mostly free speech,

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<v Speaker 2>now most protects corporate interests and threatens essential jobs of

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<v Speaker 2>the state, such as protecting national security and the safety

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<v Speaker 2>and privacy of its citizens.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, So free speech only protects corporate interests, but the

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<v Speaker 2>government and of course the citizens who belove their government,

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<v Speaker 2>are being screwed by free speech somehow.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, the free speech is getting in the way of

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<v Speaker 1>the security of the state, that is what he said.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And whether it is deliberate evil doing or just that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of hubristic, you know, naive self regard, I don't know, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, maybe it fits in with like the moderators on

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<v Speaker 2>the debate the other night, or the last couple of debates,

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<v Speaker 2>where it's amazing to me that intelligent people can be

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<v Speaker 2>so blind did by their beliefs, that they are fully

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<v Speaker 2>in the camp of our side is all good and

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<v Speaker 2>right and honest, and the other side is evil and awful.

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<v Speaker 2>And it makes perfectly good sense as a decent, law abiding,

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<v Speaker 2>smart person to put my thumb on the scale for

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<v Speaker 2>the side that is good and honest and decent and

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<v Speaker 2>against the side that is evil. And you know, Margaret

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<v Speaker 2>Brennan and O'Donell and so many others seem to believe that,

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<v Speaker 2>and John Carey believes that, Well, I'm on the side

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<v Speaker 2>that is good as honest, and we never abuse our

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<v Speaker 2>power or do anything wrong or lie, so of course

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<v Speaker 2>we can make that decision. What are you even talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>The nightmare of everybody's rights being taken away during COVID, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the data changed. We didn't hear about the schools in

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<v Speaker 1>Sweden are intent with?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've had an epiphany, a slow and coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you sum it up for us, Well, just that

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<v Speaker 2>these people actually freaking believe that they are on the

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<v Speaker 2>side of what is right and good and that they

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<v Speaker 2>never do wrong, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Is what makes them so scary. Seal Lewis's famous quote

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<v Speaker 1>about the worst sort of oppression is the person who

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<v Speaker 1>believes they're doing it for your own good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is what makes it so scary. They actually

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<v Speaker 2>believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>Or on this theme, the car Strong and Getty, some

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<v Speaker 3>business news CVS just and as they're laying off nearly

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<v Speaker 3>three thousand workers in an effort.

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<v Speaker 2>To cut costs. Now, every CVS pharmacy will just have

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<v Speaker 2>a pumpkin bucket filled with pills and as.

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<v Speaker 1>Time as says, please take one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting. Yeah, I uh, I don't think I can

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<v Speaker 2>get any trouble for saying this. So is that the

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<v Speaker 2>CVS One time and because I got one near my house,

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<v Speaker 2>so I used it because it was just so handy

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<v Speaker 2>being a couple of blocks away, especially with the number

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<v Speaker 2>of prescriptions we have in my family. Ah, but is

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<v Speaker 2>there one time and I was getting it's just like

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<v Speaker 2>a ridiculous price for this one prescription, and the person said,

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<v Speaker 2>the pharmacists behind the counter, see, can I talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you for a second. She comes out around we go

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<v Speaker 2>over to the side and she said, you could get

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<v Speaker 2>this at Costco for like eighty cents. Oh. I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for the tip, and I started using the Costco pharmacy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the best pharmacy there is is the Costco pharmacy

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<v Speaker 2>that I've ever used. Fast friendly, you get somebody on

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<v Speaker 2>the phone right away if you ever have to call.

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<v Speaker 2>The prices. I just I'm not getting paid for this.

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<v Speaker 2>Its just been my personal experience as a guy who

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<v Speaker 2>has lots of prescriptions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just don't. Well, we can talk off the airs,

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<v Speaker 1>can I say, doesn't our health plan tell us to

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<v Speaker 1>go to some place?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Makes us go to a variety of places. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody makes money. Yeah, right, so that's something that.

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<v Speaker 2>The person at CBS pulled me aside. Oh, yes, good

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<v Speaker 2>for her, it's very nice for she cared more about

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<v Speaker 2>you know, me than her business apparently.

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<v Speaker 1>And the executives at CVS has figured out what branch

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<v Speaker 1>that is. And she is now out of work and

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<v Speaker 1>crying softly on her couch at home. Well else, she

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<v Speaker 1>just lost her home thanks to Jack. So, continuing our

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<v Speaker 1>free speech theme, thought this was just great. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of different things. But the free press talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of powerful, well educationd well educated people don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand how free speech works. For example, Tim Walls at

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday's vice presidential debate, the Minnesota governor said the First

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<v Speaker 1>Amendment does not cover hate speech or yelling fire in

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<v Speaker 1>a crowded theater. Wrong on both counts.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm a knucklehead at times.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So it doesn't protect hate speech is an assertion

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<v Speaker 1>you hear ten thousand times a day on America's college campuses.

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<v Speaker 1>That is absolutely patently false. One person's hate speech is

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<v Speaker 1>another person's legitimate criticism. And just anybody who ever claims

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<v Speaker 1>that to you know you are dealing with either a

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<v Speaker 1>muttonhead or a neo Marxist, and reject them.

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<v Speaker 2>I like your hate speech. Probably I hate you, I

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<v Speaker 2>really hate you.

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<v Speaker 1>That is hate speech. Yes. In fact, if you run

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<v Speaker 1>into a person making that claim, I suggest you knock

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<v Speaker 1>them down and run away from them as quickly as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>But the other part that I thought was so very interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>and once again it's our our good friends at thefire

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<v Speaker 1>dot org used to be the Foundation for individual Rights

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<v Speaker 1>and education. Now it's just the what do they call

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<v Speaker 1>themselves foundation for in visual rights? Excellent? I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>what the E stands for in fire anymore, but they

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<v Speaker 1>are crusaders for the First Amendment and I love them

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<v Speaker 1>for that. Wow. Wow, inappropriate and inaccurate. But you need

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<v Speaker 1>to be silenced anyway. I thought this was so interesting

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<v Speaker 1>in a discussion about the riot at the US Capitol, walstl.

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<v Speaker 1>Vanstir limus free speech.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't, you know, fire in a crowded theater.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the test that's the Supreme Court test. Well, as

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<v Speaker 1>usual with the old coach, he only has half an

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<v Speaker 1>idea what the hell he's talking about? But what's lead

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<v Speaker 1>at times that you've heard expressed a thousand times in

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<v Speaker 1>your life, that you can't yell fire in a crowded theater.

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<v Speaker 1>That that's the Supreme Court's test for unprotected speech is

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<v Speaker 1>both wild, widely held and dead wrong. That phrase comes

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<v Speaker 1>from Justice the infamous Justice for Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes

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<v Speaker 1>in a nineteen nineteen opinion called Shank versus Us and writes,

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<v Speaker 1>fire it's a testament to the power of a well

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<v Speaker 1>turned phrase that we're still hearing it more than one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years later. Stop and think, can it possibly be true?

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<v Speaker 1>You can't shout fire in a crowded theater? Well, if

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<v Speaker 1>there is a fire, or you really think there is one,

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<v Speaker 1>do you need to be quiet about it? Must you

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<v Speaker 1>remain silent as you race to pull the fire alarm?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course not, that's absurd.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first of all, I always believe that I've heard

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<v Speaker 2>it my whole life, and I always thought that was

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<v Speaker 2>the test I heard. Sarah Isger of The Dispatch do

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<v Speaker 2>a long piece on this probably similar to what you're

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<v Speaker 2>about to read, like a year ago or something. She said,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing makes me crazier as a Then somebody's saying you

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<v Speaker 2>can't yell fire in a crowded theater. It's not true,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought it's not. So I listened to the

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing, but I believed it my whole life, and

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<v Speaker 2>I always assumed it meant if there's not a fire,

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<v Speaker 2>not you're not allowed to yell. If there's a fire,

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<v Speaker 2>that would be really awful.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, right, we're working on.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the word.

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<v Speaker 1>But that premise leaves out some crucial details, which is

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<v Speaker 1>precisely why that's not what Justice Holmes wrote. What he

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<v Speaker 1>did write was this, the most stringent protection of free

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<v Speaker 1>speech would not protect a man in falsely shouting fire

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<v Speaker 1>in a theater and causing a panic. Notice the two qualifications.

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<v Speaker 1>The shout of fire has to be false if there

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<v Speaker 1>were fire, a good reasona believe there was, the prohibsion

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<v Speaker 1>does not apply. And don't worry, there's even more to

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<v Speaker 1>it than that.

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<v Speaker 2>Honor.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you be punished if you falsely shout fire in

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<v Speaker 1>a theater? But there is no panic. That means people

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<v Speaker 1>whose alert simply caused no panickers safe from prosecution as.

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<v Speaker 2>For thoroughness's sake.

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<v Speaker 1>Also note that Holmes phrase doesn't touch on whether the

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<v Speaker 1>theaters crowded. You wouldn't get a free pass to falsely

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<v Speaker 1>Panica theater that's only half full either. So and here's

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<v Speaker 1>where it gets interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting. So five month theater and there's just three

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<v Speaker 2>of us there. We're watching a very unpopular movie months

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<v Speaker 2>after it came out. There's just three of us in there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's ridiculously cold because they have the air conditioners set

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<v Speaker 2>for a crowd. And I help fire and people say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought a shot of smoke too, And everybody just

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<v Speaker 2>gets up and walks out.

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<v Speaker 1>At regular smail, I reckon, we ought to go. This

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<v Speaker 1>movie sucks anyway, right exactly. But again, here's where it

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<v Speaker 1>gets really interesting. So what exactly did Shank do? Because

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<v Speaker 1>he lost unanimously the Supreme Court case, the decision famously

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<v Speaker 1>written by Justice Holmes, he wrote and distributed a pamphlet

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<v Speaker 1>urging Americans to peacefully resist being drafted to fight into

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<v Speaker 1>World War One.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all. That's all he did.

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<v Speaker 1>The true insidiousness of the fire in the crowded theater

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<v Speaker 1>phrase is the way that from the very beginning. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been wielded to justify censorship of a broad range of

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<v Speaker 1>speech that has nothing to do with fires or theaters.

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<v Speaker 1>His pamphlet, it's two pages, were headed long lived the

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<v Speaker 1>Constitution of the United States. Wake up, America, your liberties

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<v Speaker 1>are in danger. Assert your rights, quoted the Thirteenth Amendment,

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<v Speaker 1>which abolished slavery. Labeled the draft a form of involuntary

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<v Speaker 1>servitude and was quite well reasoned, whether you'd agree with

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<v Speaker 1>it or not. In a democracy, in a democratic country,

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<v Speaker 1>each man must have the right to stay whether he's

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<v Speaker 1>willing to join the army. It also said conscription laws

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<v Speaker 1>belong to a bygone age. That's a quote, and urged

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<v Speaker 1>recipients quote to write your congressman and tell him you

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<v Speaker 1>want the law repealed. Do not submit to intimidation. You

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<v Speaker 1>have a right to appeal to any law.

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<v Speaker 2>And for that.

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<v Speaker 1>He was convicted of three counts of violating the Espionage

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<v Speaker 1>Act of nineteen seventeen served six months in jail because

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<v Speaker 1>the Supreme Court said, well, he said, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>clear and present danger. It's like shouting fire in a

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<v Speaker 1>crowded theater. When what he said was one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>defensible under the First Amendment, the point being obviously reasonable

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<v Speaker 1>sounding standards and examples are used from the beginning to

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<v Speaker 1>outlaw speech. This one hundred percent defensive.

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<v Speaker 2>So he I'd forgotten that he was. He lost that

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<v Speaker 2>case that a lot of there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>things that are happening, particularly in the early early twentieth century,

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<v Speaker 2>that are awful, and the idea that things were better

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<v Speaker 2>back in the day and you know, going the wrong

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<v Speaker 2>direction on every front is not true. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>back to the days when that sort of thing was happening.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm trying to think, first of all, in the

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<v Speaker 2>debate the other night, why did Walls bring that up?

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<v Speaker 2>What was his point? What? How did he apply the

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<v Speaker 2>fire theater? Did it have to do?

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<v Speaker 1>I think with social media and the need for social

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<v Speaker 1>media to enforce the dictates of the government to ban

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<v Speaker 1>disinformation and misinformation. I don't remember he was holding the

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<v Speaker 1>big platforms responsible for misinformation.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I was trying to think, when have I

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<v Speaker 2>ever used it before? Like I said, up until a

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<v Speaker 2>year ago, and I'm old, I've believed it my whole life.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's it's true, though, right I can yell fire,

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<v Speaker 2>Well if I if I what what happens if you

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<v Speaker 2>get if I'm in a crowded theater and I ye'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Think the thread that was not the key point.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I know, I know, I know, I know, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to get So if I yell fire in

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<v Speaker 2>a crowded theater and there is a panic and there

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<v Speaker 2>was not a fire, I have committed a crime. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>since she caused a panic.

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<v Speaker 1>You certainly could be held civilly liable.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm trying to think in what cases did I

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<v Speaker 2>ever use Have I ever used that argument? I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure I have. I think it might just be something

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<v Speaker 2>I heard and thought was interesting, and I believe my

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<v Speaker 2>whole life, I'm not sure I've ever used the argument.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just an.

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<v Speaker 1>Expression that there is some speech that can be regulated,

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<v Speaker 1>and then is used too to start regulating speech. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And the problem is it's always used improperly and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and overused interestingly enough, Oliver Weldell Holmes himself backtracked. He

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<v Speaker 1>backpedaled not too long after that and said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>against peculiar or dangerous peculiar to war the principles of

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<v Speaker 1>the right to free speech is anyway, But it sounded

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<v Speaker 1>like he was admitting he made a mistake. And finally,

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen sixty nine case Brandenburg versus Ohio, in

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<v Speaker 1>which KKK leader AKKK leader was convicted for promising revengeance

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<v Speaker 1>against the government in a speech before a small crowd

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<v Speaker 1>of media and clan nut jobs, the Supreme Court pulled

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<v Speaker 1>the plug on shank the original case to discarding its

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<v Speaker 1>clear and present danger tests, the Court replaced it with

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<v Speaker 1>a new test for unlawful incitement. To be punishable, speech

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<v Speaker 1>must be quote directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless

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<v Speaker 1>action and be quote likely to incite or produce such action.

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<v Speaker 2>So then you got I wish I remembered all these

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<v Speaker 2>I've read about these so many times, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>good at committing this stuff to memory. And then you

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<v Speaker 2>got the course out of San Francisco with the guy

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<v Speaker 2>who had the F word on his jacket, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>and whether or not he was allowed to be in

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<v Speaker 2>a courtroom with that, and that became a big thing

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<v Speaker 2>in the Supreme Court, I believe ruled Yeah, again, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not cool, it's indelicate. We wish you wouldn't, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>not against the law.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are very, very vanishingly few limitations on the

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<v Speaker 1>First Amendment that are legitimate.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you deal with people who wear obnoxious shirts

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<v Speaker 2>in public? You just hope social pressure deals with it

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<v Speaker 2>over time. Hit him with a bat, which would happen someplaces. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>get out of here, their kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Around, Yeah, social pressure call them nasty names. From now on,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't go to many movies, but every movie I

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<v Speaker 1>go to, I'm gonna yell fire at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>my lungs, just to make a point. And then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say you know, originally, let me tell you about

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen nineteen. This is an interesting story. If you've ever

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to co host a radio show slash podcast, reach

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<v Speaker 1>out to me, Joe Ketty.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're at Barbi two, the reckoning or whatever and.

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<v Speaker 1>Barbie two, the barbining, the pinkinning.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, Yes, three tries. What finished strong?

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<v Speaker 6>Next New York, theyre Eric Adams blearned the federal bribery

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<v Speaker 6>case against him. May Wan prosecutor said additional charges against

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<v Speaker 6>Adams are possible and new defendants are likely, telling the

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<v Speaker 6>judge we're moving quickly. One possible new charge witness tampering,

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<v Speaker 6>After prosecutors said they have evidence. Adams told a witness

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<v Speaker 6>to lie. Prosecutor said the witness was given a clear

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<v Speaker 6>message from the defendant they should not tell the truth

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<v Speaker 6>to the FBI. The mayor asked the judge to hold

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<v Speaker 6>a trial by March. He says he fully intends to

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<v Speaker 6>be on the ballot for re election a year from now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I meant to grab the audio because it

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of entertaining. Yesterday, Eric Adams came out and

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<v Speaker 2>talked to a crowd of supporters, and then there was

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<v Speaker 2>a giant crowd there, and he walked up to the

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<v Speaker 2>podium and said, they're trying to keep me down. They're

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 2>trying to keep you down, and everybody was cheering, and

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna fight whoa. I mean, he had a lot

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 2>of support right there from people who just think, you know,

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:53.720
<v Speaker 2>the man, somebody's out to get him. But then you

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<v Speaker 2>combine that with both Jonathan Turley and the Wall Street

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<v Speaker 2>Journal saying, eh, they don't have a very good case here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking he's both guilty and going to get away

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<v Speaker 2>with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And being railroaded. Can you be railroaded if you're guilty? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Selective prosecution of the sort of things lots of politicians

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<v Speaker 1>do it seemed a little egregious to me, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>guilty ship with Turkey and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wouldn't say he's guilty of a crime. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that he's guilty of a crime. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's guilty of doing things we don't want our politicians

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<v Speaker 2>to do, taking ridiculous gifts from people to give them favors.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like that, but he certainly might not be

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<v Speaker 2>guilty of a crime. That's the problem the whole that's

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<v Speaker 2>the way the whole politics thing works. So it's really difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why it's so hard to prosecute bribery.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, right, the quid pro quote, there's got to be

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<v Speaker 1>a quo there, and speeding up the fire inspections is

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<v Speaker 1>just not the sort of thing that gets me up

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<v Speaker 1>at arms. I'm not saying I approve of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think the guy's half a crook and he's a crackpot.

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<v Speaker 2>But even if it's much much bigger than that, how

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<v Speaker 2>do you unless you have in print somewhere, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have given you this dam under any circumstances except for

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 2>the fact that you gave me that plane. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>unless you've got that, there's always a plausible reason that

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<v Speaker 2>you went ahead and signed off on the dam or

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<v Speaker 2>the inspection cleared or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I like lakes better than rivers. Rivers they just run

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<v Speaker 1>right away from you. I like to look at the water.

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<v Speaker 1>So I built a dam.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've all seen tons of examples of that. At

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<v Speaker 2>the example I used the other day, they couldn't get

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<v Speaker 2>Obamacare going, which changed healthcare for all of us for

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of our lives, until they got that senator

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<v Speaker 2>from Nebraska to sign on. So they offered him a

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<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of stuff in an omnibus bill to get

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<v Speaker 2>him on board. And she said, yes, Well, how is

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<v Speaker 2>that different than Turkey flying air adams around? Not a

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<v Speaker 2>lot different, Not a whole lot different.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, indeed, And if you include the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>so much of policy has a positive or negative effect

0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 1>on the very stocks that these people are fond of trading,

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 1>ask Nancy Pelosi about that. I mean, then you really

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>get into a pole. Hey, if you can vote for this,

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<v Speaker 1>which is really going to help the corn futures in

0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>my district, I'll get you that bridge and then we'll have,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the stock prices go up for this other

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 1>stuff we're invested in this Yes winning. Speaking of stock prices,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess oil briefly spiked. I don't know if it'll

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<v Speaker 1>stay spiked on Joe Biden's weird answer.

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<v Speaker 5>About attacking noil refiners in Iran. Oh my God, admit

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<v Speaker 5>me chorus to this history. Who prologue like your humble.

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<v Speaker 1>Patients, prey gently to hear, kindly, to judge the final

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts of Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's your host for final thoughts, heyez Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, let's get a final thought from everybody on the

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<v Speaker 1>crew to wrap things up for the day. Gleangelow, our

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<v Speaker 1>technical director, will lead the way. Michael final thought. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't eat a lot of sweets anymore, but I

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<v Speaker 1>did have one the other day. It's chocolate chip cheesecake. Whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a very small piece. Man Oh, that could

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<v Speaker 1>be my last meal I've ever. You know, get the

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<v Speaker 1>death penalty, that's gonna be my last.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good to have a plan in case you get

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<v Speaker 2>the death penalty.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all have that plan, which is odd

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<v Speaker 1>since we're all fairly peaceful people. Katie Green are esteemed Newswoman.

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<v Speaker 1>As a final thought, Katie all right, Michael, if you're into.

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<v Speaker 3>That cheesecake factory Adam's Peanut butter cup fudge ripple, Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>The diabean is you can take a bite.

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<v Speaker 5>Come on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm here to help you, Michael, not undermine you.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the rest of these runs, I could run it off.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly That sounds pretty good, Katie Jack. A final

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<v Speaker 2>thought for us, Yeah, there's a lot of reasons to

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<v Speaker 2>uh want to live a long life, be around for

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<v Speaker 2>my kids, et cetera. But I want to live long

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<v Speaker 2>enough to see the books written when people are finally

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<v Speaker 2>honest about this period of Joe Biden being president, who

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<v Speaker 2>is running things and making decisions and how often was

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<v Speaker 2>he completely out of it?

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala loses Those books will be out within a year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think my final thought is, and I know it's odd,

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<v Speaker 1>but a friend of mine, my neighbor, had a brush

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<v Speaker 1>with death the other day and I've reached out to

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<v Speaker 1>him and you know, let him know we're very, very

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:32.360
<v Speaker 1>happy it ended the way it did.

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<v Speaker 2>But have you ever dealt with that? How can I?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it has its after effects? What should I say

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<v Speaker 1>to the guy? Is that what would be helpful?

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<v Speaker 2>What's not helpful?

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<v Speaker 1>Mail Bag at Armstrong and Getty dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>That's super glad you're around. That's a good question. We

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<v Speaker 2>will see you tomorrow. God bless America. I'm strong and get.

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<v Speaker 4>You some absolutely stunning remarks.

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<v Speaker 2>He but never gave it.

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<v Speaker 4>Even the particular field and particularly of harsh attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one hundred on the crazy meter. Everyone knows that.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, do want to ask you about your leadership qualities.

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<v Speaker 2>I've become friends with school shooters and from that I

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<v Speaker 2>learned I'm a knucklehead at times. Well, let me tell

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 2>you he's gotta go to hell.

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<v Speaker 1>No, gentlemen, there's a lot to discuss.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to move on. Thank you all very much,

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty