1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Fields ticks off? What's touchdown bars? What Fields throws the 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: Harvard touchdown? Montgomery is in for the touchdown? What a 3 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: night to the ground games of the Bears. It was 4 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: supposed to be a coronation for Bill Belichick on Monday 5 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: Night football, but the Bears and Justin Fields had different ideas. 6 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: Thirty three to fourteen on Monday Night in Foxborough. That's 7 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears first victory in Foxborough. Ever, how is 8 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,319 Speaker 1: that even possible? Well, they don't play there that much. 9 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 1: I am joined on Monday Night by Bill Barnwell, and 10 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: I am so excited, uh for Bill to be here 11 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: and to revel uh in my misery. Welcome Bill, How 12 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: are you doing? Thank you for staying up late. You 13 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: make it sound like that's a common trope in our friendship. 14 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: Is that that? That is really what I'm stuck around for. 15 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: Just revel Well, you've been You've had to wait. You 16 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: know you you are a Giants fan, and so you've 17 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: had the upper hand and some some big spots. But 18 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: I do feel like the rest of the country enjoyed 19 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: how much Patriots fans lost their mind and zappy fever 20 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: and we're booing their first round pick from a year 21 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: ago Mac Jones and then going crazy for Zappy and 22 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: they take a lead and then the air just it's 23 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: totally taken out of the stadium and they end up 24 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: getting blown out. I do feel like there's probably a 25 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: little extra joy for much of the country and seeing 26 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: all those sad Patriots fans faces. Yeah, I mean, you're right, 27 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: I I think in general, though maybe I'm basing that 28 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: on the text that I got from Mark and Dan 29 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: right after the game to presenting the broader NFL watching public, 30 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: which is not unfair. I think they they have very 31 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: fine opinions themselves. They're slightly biased, But I think I 32 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: don't know about you, obviously, you watch a lot of football. 33 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: I can't think of a game where a player came 34 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: in was so hot, like a player who was being 35 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: begged for by the crowd early in this game comes 36 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: in like such an immediate fire underneath the team and 37 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: then fizzles out so quickly over the course of the 38 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: ensuing two quarters, Like even with um was it. Mike 39 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: White was the Jets at the quarterback last year. Mike 40 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: White at least had a really good game and then 41 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: kind of struggled the following week or a couple of 42 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: weeks later. Um, this was really like a whole life 43 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: cycle in the course of about forty minutes of football time. 44 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: It was crazy. It was truly like a telenovela. It 45 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: was great entertainment. The only thing that would have been 46 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: better is if the game, you know, stayed close. But 47 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: there was so much going on when the Patriots took 48 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: out Mac Jones at the end of you know, a 49 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: rough first quarter for Jones, and I have, you know, 50 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: a little notes in front of me. Bill. You can't 51 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: see me because your camera is off, and I respect 52 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: that decision. Um, you have moved out into your main 53 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: room of your house. Your wife is sleeping in your bedroom, 54 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: and you're staying up late, um to do this with me, 55 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: and so I really appreciate that. But if you could 56 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: see me, you could see my note card and the 57 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: first thing written on it is all about the bears, 58 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: because I want to give the bears their love. This 59 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: really was a big night for them, and we will 60 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: talk a lot about that. But we just started on 61 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: the Zappy and Mac things. So now I just think 62 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: let's let's stay there. We can we can go in 63 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: I know, the the zappy Mac thing is crazy because 64 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: mac Jones was getting booed, or at least the Patriots 65 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: offense was getting booed. After mac Jones starts the game 66 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: and they go three and out twice. This is and 67 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: before he throws a bad interception. And in those two 68 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: drives and they were three and outs, they had some 69 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: bad running plays, they had a penalty, they had mac 70 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: Jones maybe holding onto the ball too long, not making 71 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: quick decisions like he did as a rookie. But it 72 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: was like the sample size of two or three, you know, 73 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: past plays, and they were already booing. They already started 74 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: chanting for Zappy. And so after mac Jones makes a 75 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: couple of plays uh and drives the ball down the field, 76 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: he throws uh a pretty unforgivable interception where he's outside 77 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: of the pocket and just throws it up for grabs. 78 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: And he and he made a few of those plays 79 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: earlier in the season, which which he really didn't much 80 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: as a rookie, and at that point everyone wanted Zappy. 81 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: Zappy comes in and has a four play touchdown drive 82 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: where he's got a wide open screen to Stevenson and 83 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: a wide open Jacoby Meyers down the field and then 84 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: a three play touchdown drive, and at that point it 85 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: felt like the Beatles had just landed in New York. 86 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: And during that time, the Patriots had come back from 87 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: attend nothing deficit to take the lead fourteen ten, and 88 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: it was like it was an experience, Bill, What what 89 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: was your experience watching this? So two things came to 90 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: mind for me with this sequence, and I'll start with 91 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: the mac Jones side of things. Number One, we've all 92 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: seen situations where a quarterback was struggling, a veteran starting 93 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: quarterback was struggling, and and the fans wanted to see 94 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: that young, exciting, uh you know, promising backup get his opportunity. 95 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: The starting quarterback in this situation situation is usually not 96 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: like twenty four years old. And I think that's the 97 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: word part about this is that mac Jones was getting 98 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: the oh, we're sick of you, we want to see 99 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: something fresh and new treatment from the fans of mac 100 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: Jones is in his second season as Patriots quarterback, like 101 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: he was getting the oh, we're excited to see mac 102 00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: Jones treatment. Last year, the second year as Patriots order back, 103 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: and he's averaged seven point four yards per attempt as 104 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: a pro, including eight point one yards per attempt in 105 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: his brief three games this year, like he has not 106 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: been great to start the season with turnovers, and obviously 107 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: Zappy was very good in his two start sample. But 108 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: it just seems so strange to me that Patriots fans 109 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: were like, oh, yeah, I get this first round pick, 110 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: who's the future of our franchise? The hell off the field, 111 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: we have to see Zappy right now. There's no alternative 112 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: for us, right And that the Patriots fed into this 113 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: by letting reporters know or reporters finding out that both 114 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: quarterbacks were likely to play in this game, Adam Schefter 115 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: reported before the game. But I also saw a few 116 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: times during the week from Patriots reporters that they said, 117 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: don't be surprised if both end up playing. I also think, 118 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: and this is why you know, I have a tricky 119 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: time as a Patriots fan, because Patriots fans, like in 120 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: the stadium, often annoy me to the nd degree on Twitter, 121 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: no one's more annoying than Patriots fans. And this is 122 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: the sort of thing that that drove me crazy, and 123 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: now that I'm thinking deeply about it, like part of 124 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: it is the sports radio atmosphere there there were some 125 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: negative reports about mac Jones that did not become a 126 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: national story. Um. He also didn't seem comfortable in the 127 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: new Map Patricia system, and he had one or two 128 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: commons slip out publicly that kind of expressed his lack 129 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: of comfort when they were struggling in training camp in 130 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: the beginning of the season. And then there's some reports 131 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: and Michael Lombardi was was one of them, uh out 132 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: there just like about his attitude or just total nonsense 133 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: stuff about he got too big for himself when he 134 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: went to the Pro Bowl, And I think that all 135 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: feeds into it. And then ultimately you look at Zappy 136 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: and he played well, he improved the last couple of weeks, 137 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: and everyone just wants this to be Brady again. That's 138 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: the thing. Like they want Bailey, Zappy, this kid from 139 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: Western Kentucky to come in and it's just Tom Brady again. 140 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: And I just haven't seen anything out of him to 141 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: make me think like this guy is going to be 142 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: a better option than Zappy. But I mean, then Mac Jones, 143 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: but it makes you wonder, like what do they gotta 144 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: do next week? And this is not going to be 145 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: something that goes away anytime soon. I mean, we're not 146 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: that far removed from fans wanting Mac Jones to be 147 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: the next Tom Brady, and frankly, he was ahead of 148 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: tom Brady in terms of tom Brady's development, given that 149 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: tom Brady did not play really during his rookie season. 150 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: I I know some of the reports that came out 151 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: about his attitude were proven to be just false based 152 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: on random DMS that went to reporters who reported them 153 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: as fact. Exactly. I should have pointed that out was 154 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: a problem, and again, like Frankly, I don't. Tom Brady's 155 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: attitude was not always great as Patriots quarterback. He was 156 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: not always the most humble quarterback or the easiest person 157 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: to do deal with. It didn't matter when they were 158 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: winning football games. And I think what really stood out 159 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: to me about this situation was how Bill Belichick handled 160 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: Mac Jones in this game. Because we've see a Belichick 161 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: bench pretty much every place, any player at any position 162 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: who makes a serious mental mistake, Belichick is comfortable benching 163 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: that guy for the entire game, or for the next week, 164 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: or for weeks to come. Isaiah Win is this year's example, 165 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: where he wasn't even active for this game after mental 166 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: mistakes throughout the season. They put an injury designation on it, 167 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: but I am with you that I think it was 168 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: more about him just getting benched. Right, and mac Jones 169 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: throws an interception which was a bad play. He saw 170 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: cover two before the stop. He threw a play through 171 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: past that would have been a covered to beater. The 172 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: Bears had rotated to cover three after the stop. It 173 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: was a contested past. An incredible interception, by the way, like, 174 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: like just a ridiculous the second round pick who has 175 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: been a nice story for them, Yeah, incredible pick. But 176 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: mac Jones did not play after that moment, even though 177 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick came out at halftime and said we're going 178 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: to play mac Jones and Billy Zappy after halftime, And 179 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: even though we didn't really see a lot of evidence 180 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: that mac Jones was physically struggling with his high ankle 181 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: sprain in this game. He was running fine. He had 182 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: a bunch of scrambles for games and more yards than 183 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: passing yards. Bill, Yes, that is the like, like, it 184 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: wasn't like the ankle was the issue here where that 185 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: seemed to be holding him back. So it seemed like 186 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: basically Bill Belichick used this opportunity to bench mac Jones 187 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: for making a stupid mental mistake, which maybe he doesn't 188 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: do that in a typical situation, but it felt like, 189 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: at the very least, tough love from a coach who's 190 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: known for tough love with his players. I want to 191 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: get into some of that. And again, we're gonna get 192 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: to the Bears, but I think let's do this quarterback 193 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: situation move on. I like these Monday night recaps, bill Um, 194 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: because it's our chance to kind of dive into these 195 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: teams a little deeper than we have time to do 196 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: later in the season. And this quarterback situation is is fascinating. 197 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: I'm curious just what you think of Bailey. Zappy has 198 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: now played as much this season as Mac Jones, and 199 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: the sample size we're basing mac Jones tonight on was 200 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: to be clear, three for six uh for thirteen yards 201 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: in an interception. He through six passes, he ran a 202 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: little too quickly a few times, to three possessions. They 203 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: didn't score one big mental air. What have you seen 204 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: from Zappy in general and especially tonight. I mean, I 205 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: think we saw a guy who can be very decisive 206 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: with the football, you know, I think the the The 207 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: swing pass he got out to orm Ndre Stevenson against 208 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: the big plates was just perfect, thorough, perfect time, perfect situation, 209 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: and a great region know exactly where to get the 210 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: ball out quickly. Um. I think you see a guy 211 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: who has sipped on his passes. It's not like he 212 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: doesn't have have a a pro caliber arm. During slant 213 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: story out he was able to make those throws and 214 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: look like he had an NFL caliber arm, not exactly 215 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: you know, Josh Allen kind of arm, but his throws 216 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: were in the right places generally. UM, I think you 217 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 1: saw a guy who is going to be struggling with protections, 218 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: who's going to be struggling with what to do when 219 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: there's pass pressure on him. And I think we saw 220 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: something very similar to the Cooper Rush situation in Dallas, 221 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: where when Cooper Rush was playing subpart defenses and wasn't 222 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: in a position where he had to throw the football 223 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: to catch up, and he was able to play from 224 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: ahead and have the threat of a running game. Cooper 225 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: Rush looked great, but the moment they came out and 226 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: played the Eagles and got down to nothing and Cooper 227 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: Rush had to throw for them to win football games, 228 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: you saw what happened. Cooper Rush started turning the ball 229 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: over and it was a much sloppier situation, And that 230 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: this kind of what I felt he was Zappy where 231 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: in the second half when the Bears strangely were going 232 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: on a scoring spree, exactly had to match them. He 233 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: was really not able to keep up. And I don't 234 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: think it tells us that Billy Zappy's not to be 235 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: in an NFL quarterback, but just that he's not some 236 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: immediate solution in a way that Mac Jones is not 237 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: for this football team. Right. The thing that drives me 238 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: the craziest about this whole thing is like they're the 239 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: same player. They're so similar. I think mac Jones has 240 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: a higher ceiling, and I think people undersell what he 241 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: showed last year as a rookie for being advanced in 242 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: some meaningful ways as a rookie that to me um 243 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: offer some real long term upside that they could get 244 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: excited about. But he still would have to see it 245 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: in a way that I was like excited about Geno 246 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: Smith back in the day, in his early days, just 247 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: that he's showing some processing ability bill like going to 248 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: his second his third read like being pretty comfortable in 249 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: the pocket, not letting, you know, pressure bother him too much. 250 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: Like if you can show those things early, there's a 251 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: chance you can have a pretty long, good career. I 252 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: think Zappy has very so Miller's strength. They literally look 253 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: the same if you put those two people on a 254 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: lineup together, Like it's just like, look look at Bailey, Zappy, 255 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: look at mac Jones. They look at the same and 256 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: they're very similar players. And that that's why I think 257 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: the whole thing is a little silly. Now. Zappy has 258 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: shown way more uh than you would expect this quickly, 259 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: and that that bodes well. Like I thought he was 260 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: overwhelmed in the Packers game where he came in, and 261 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: you can understand that. And and and they've done things 262 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: for him like seven man protections and more play action. 263 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: The running game has been really good, and you saw 264 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: what happened when all that didn't quite work as well tonight. 265 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: And I think most importantly, the rest of the team 266 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: has just played better. There's so much focus on the 267 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: quarterback and it is juicy, but ultimately I think mac 268 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: Jones would have won those last couple of games against 269 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: two of the worst defenses in the league. The Browns 270 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: and the Lions, and he would have played well, and 271 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: they weren't gonna win this game no matter if Zappy 272 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: played all four quarters or if Mac Jones uh play 273 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: four quarters. So Uh, it's a situation where I think 274 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: Belichick came into this game bill with the plan to 275 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: rotate the players, and like he knows, he knows this 276 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: is going to drive people crazy. He knows, but ultimately 277 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: he doesn't care enough. He thinks this is the right 278 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: thing to do. And it is something he's very consistent 279 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: at almost any other position, especially with young players, that 280 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: he rotates them. Whether it's the offensive line, whether it's 281 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: cornerbacks where the defense WindMan that's more typical, whether it's 282 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: running backs, receivers like this is. These are things he does. 283 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: And I think he has this idea in his head 284 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: that these are two young quarterbacks and this is what 285 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do, and and I'm gonna see how I 286 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: feel after this game, and um, I think the way 287 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: it went it just is messy. With the Jets next week, 288 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: it's messy. I have a stat question for you, Greg Rossenthal. 289 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: The stat is QBR ESPN is all encompassing quarterback stat 290 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: and speaking to your argument that these are the identical quarterbacks. 291 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: Billy's Happy's QBR after four games is thirty five point Oh. 292 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: Mac Jones QBR after four games is thirty three point nine. 293 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: So there is a one point one difference in QBR 294 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: between these two quarterbacks who are similar in and the 295 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: Zappy Heads will say, well, like one of those passes 296 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: were tipped and the other time it was over. It's 297 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: like those were the times when when Mac Jones got 298 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: into trouble this year, I will say Mac Jones hasn't 299 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: looked as comfortable in Matt Patricia's system period, and that 300 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: then included tonight. I'm gonna give you a couple of 301 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: Belichick quotes and then we'll move on to the Bears. Uh. 302 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: He did not, of course, uh say who the starter 303 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: is going to be against the Jazz, and he won't 304 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: assume until next Sunday. We'll see if there's reports he 305 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: said Jones wasn't benched due to performance. Jones was aware 306 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: he wasn't going to play the whole game and then ankle, 307 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: The ankle was a factor in that decision. Don't believe 308 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: the ankle part. Do believe that he was aware he 309 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: wasn't going to play the whole game. But I also 310 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: believe mac Jones probably thought he was going to come 311 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: back into the game. Belichick says he would have if 312 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: the score didn't get out of hand. He shot down 313 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: the notion that the Patriots would platoon quarterbacks moving forward, 314 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: even though he in the same sentence essentially admitted he 315 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: was planning to platoon quarterbacks today. So I think there's 316 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: some lying going on in there. Well. Great, as a 317 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: Patriots fan, as a observer of the NFL, what do 318 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: you think the Patriots should do next week? Oh? I 319 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: think they should start mac Jones. You know, the fan 320 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: part of it annoys me, and um, that's just something 321 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: that we could both agree. We hate the fans. I'm 322 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: just saying that mac Jones is like a human being, 323 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying they should be easy on them. 324 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: But when they are booing like crazy in the atmosphere 325 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: that they have and then it went crazy, I don't 326 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: think it's crazy to view these two guys as human 327 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: and their teammates as human and think that actually it 328 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: could have a real impact on what's going on and 329 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: not gonna help Mac Jones uh and his performance and 330 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: what's happening, and maybe that influences you a little at 331 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: least in the moment tonight. Is that crazy? No, But 332 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: I think if anyone's going to be able to get 333 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: past what the crowd thinks about anything, it's Bill Belichick now, yeah, 334 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: and Mac Jones is going to have to as well. 335 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: And I was already getting people texting me of friends 336 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: and my buddy burke who we've talked about on this show, 337 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: who helps us, you know, with our live shows. Uh, 338 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: Mike burke Witz was always like, oh, they're gonna trade 339 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: mac Jones like they can. It's like, let's come down here. 340 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: They not only drafted a quarterback behind Tom Brady, the 341 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: greatest of you know, one of the greatest of all 342 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: time or the greatest every couple of years in the 343 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: first three rounds, they drafted someone more handsome than him 344 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: that he didn't particularly seem to enjoy and all but 345 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: decided that he was gonna be there next guy. And 346 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: they let those two guys just sit round while not 347 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: giving Tom Brady a contract extension. I think they'll be 348 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: fine letting Mac Jones and h Bailey's Appy feel uncomfortable 349 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: in the situation maybe for years. Maybe this is the 350 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: first of many postgame conversations about this weird situation. Bill, 351 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: So should I delete my tweet that said starting quarterback 352 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: Mac Jones? No, I mean you can keep it because 353 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: what's the harm you might you know, like in the 354 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: off chance that you're right. Um, I mean it does 355 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: make some sense. Uh, if they were willing to pay enough, 356 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: it's you know, the Belichick would probably trade anyone. But 357 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: I think I think one thing they do in a 358 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: smart way is draft quarterbacks every year. Like, even when 359 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: you have Tom Brady, quarterbacks are worth a lot, and 360 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: it's great to have two good ones. And right now 361 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: we see a lot of Patriots quarterbacks playing around the league, 362 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: Jacoby Prisett, Jimmy Garoppolo, Like this is I'm not saying 363 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,479 Speaker 1: these are like great players, but it's good to just 364 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: draft quarterbacks. And I think they like having to. Can 365 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: I point out something about the Jets before we get 366 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: to the Bears, the team the Patriots playing next week. 367 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: I've mentioned this. I don't feel like it's got a 368 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: lot of attention. It seems obvious to me that it's 369 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: a very important thing when it comes to evaluating the 370 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: five and two New York Jets. They have one win 371 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: this year against the starting quarterback, and they may not 372 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: have to play a starting quarterback against the Patriots next week. 373 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: They beat Kobe Rosette with the Browns. Uh, Kenny Pickett 374 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: came in for these Steelers. It's Mr Bhiskey and Kenny Pickett, 375 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: whichever one you think is not the starter played half 376 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: the game there. They had Skyler Thompson and Teddy Bridgewater 377 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: in the Dolphins game. Of course they did beat Aaron Rodgers. 378 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: But last week they get Brett Rippon and beat the Broncos, 379 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: and they might get uh they make it Billy's Appyous 380 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: the backup quarterback for the Patriots this upcoming week. So 381 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: this is something I would I'd recommend for NFL teams. 382 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: Make sure you play five backups in the first half 383 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: of the season. It's a really good way to advance 384 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: on your rebuilding project. It's a perfect week to have 385 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: Jets Patriots because that's a big game for the Atriots, 386 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: especially now at three and four, and that's a perfect 387 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: transition because I think the Jets are a great example 388 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: of how this is a defensive year in the NFL. 389 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: Not saying great defenses are gonna win the Super Bowl. 390 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: But teams are winning games often because of their defense, 391 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: and the Bears played well on both sides of the 392 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: ball tonight, But they absolutely had the better defense in 393 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: this game. They had more playmaking, they had a more 394 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: consistent pass rush, and they did a much better job 395 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: stopping the Patriots running attack. This Matt Eberflus defense has 396 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: gotten like a little bit better each and every week, 397 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: and I think they're a pretty good defense moving forward. 398 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: That he always has a sound defense. They haven't had 399 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: a great pass rush, but that's at least part of 400 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: the reason why the Bears are here at three and 401 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 1: four and in the NFC STU. Yeah, I mean absolutely, 402 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: and I think that it's very similar to what we 403 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: saw it the Colts, where when Heberflus took over in Indianapolis, 404 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: that was well, they don't have the pieces they're rebuilding 405 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: on defense, I don't really have a lot to work with. 406 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: And typically just about every season Eberflus was there in Indianapolis, 407 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: which by the way, is a disaster this year after 408 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: he left necessarily correlated, but a different conversation. Um Eberflus 409 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: has typically gotten more out of his roster than you 410 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: might look at from the names on the play sheet 411 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: each and every week, and I think that's the case here. Um, 412 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: you know, this is a team that that really bottled 413 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: up the Patriots rushing attack and put those quarterbacks in 414 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: situations where they had to throw. And yes there were 415 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: moments where, for example, like you said, Jacobe Myers just 416 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: a totally blown coverage on that touchdown, Dante Parker made 417 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: a crazy catch in double coverage. That's gonna happen. You 418 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: have Wreker series making great plays. If you're gonna blow 419 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: a coverage, not much you can do. But on the whole, 420 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: this is a very good team when it comes to 421 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: sort of playing within its limits and playing as a unit, 422 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: sort of like a a younger, less talented or less 423 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: experienced version maybe of the Bengals. He saw kind of 424 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: impressed during the second half in the postseason a year 425 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: ago where he really felt like they were just a 426 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: better team than they were individual players. And I think 427 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: we saw sort of the upside here where the few 428 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: stars they do have played like stars in this game. 429 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Robert Quinn did not get a sack, but 430 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: he tormented Trent Brown this game. He was great in 431 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: this game. Roquan Smith had an interception in this game, right, 432 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 1: a second interception. Brisker, like you said, who has been 433 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: very promising this year, had a very impressive pick on 434 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: a play where the Bears fooled Mac Jones, who was 435 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: a pretty smart quarterback for a second year, second year passer. Um, 436 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: this was a game where it felt like they had 437 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: the answers for the Patriots, and the Patriots aren't necessarily 438 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: running the most complicated offense on the planet, especially with 439 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: Zappy in the game. But it only felt like outside 440 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: of a couple of plays in this game, they were 441 00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: dominating on the road. Right, they got Nack Jones this 442 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: spot basically in all three of those drives, almost every 443 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: time he dropped back, and that was a big reason 444 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: why he didn't look comfortable. He didn't look good. I 445 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: was skeptical of the ebra flus higher just because, yeah, 446 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: you hire a defensive guy, I really want to like 447 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: a major schematic advantage in those cults. Defenses were solid, 448 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: but they weren't overwhelming, and so I wasn't inspired. But 449 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: you can kind of see the vision. And one you mentioned, 450 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: um getting players to play above their talent level as 451 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: a whole. And one thing I always look for in 452 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: new coaches, is well, how are these players compared to 453 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: they looked with their last coaches, and at least compared 454 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: to last year. Jalen Johnson playing better, Eddie Jackson a 455 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: couple of down years playing better, Roquan Smith already was great, 456 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: playing as great or better. Um, I think that those 457 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: are all really promising signs. And it's really just the 458 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: last two weeks. They've been fine before that, they haven't 459 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: been great or or terrible. But the last two weeks, 460 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: I mean, they shut down Washington. I know Washington, but 461 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: they still shut down Washington. Two and fourteen yards is 462 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: nothing to sneeze that in an NFL game. They basically 463 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: didn't give up any points other than that like fumble 464 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: over uh punt that happened that set the Washington up 465 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: inside the five, and then they you know, two hundred 466 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: and sixty yards and twelve first downs for the Patriots. 467 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: So very good, very promising, And yet I've spent all 468 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: this time not getting to the first point on my 469 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: little card bill, which was justin fields. Of course, that 470 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: was like the on field story of this game is 471 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: justin fields. Uh running well, He's run well all year, 472 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: but this time it felt like they emphasized it in 473 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: terms of design runs. They run for two d forty 474 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: three yards. As a team, they've had a couple of 475 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: games like this, but more design runs out of fields, 476 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: some great scrambles and a hundred seventy nine yards through 477 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: the air on only twenty one throws, and some great 478 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: scramble drills and a few plays from the pocket where 479 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: he got to his second read. And look, if you 480 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: just sprinkle those in along with the running game that 481 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: they have, then we might have something here. I mean, 482 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: this felt like coming off of the uh basically a 483 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: mini by They played last Thursday, had the extra day 484 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: even this week to get to Monday, so really, I 485 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: mean plenty of time to prepare for this game. This 486 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: felt like the most realized version of this Bears offense, right. 487 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: I mean, this was a game where Justin Fields was 488 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: booting a ton a ton of times. He was getting 489 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: out of the pocket and having the opportunity to throw 490 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: on the run, getting off his spot, and forcing the Patriots, 491 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: who are very good at typically bottling up your quarterbacks, 492 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: to not know where he was going to be at 493 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: the beginning of the play. We saw that from the 494 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: very first passing sequence of this game, and it continued 495 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: throughout and and like you said, more designed runs. Phil 496 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: was incredible as a scrambler in this game. He had 497 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: a couple of third and long conversions. At least one 498 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,719 Speaker 1: third and long conversion I can think of where he 499 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: came out of the pocket where basically he looked like 500 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: he was about to get sacked and instead converted third 501 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: and long set up points for the Bears. Um And 502 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: this was a game where I felt like he as 503 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: as on those design runs, added more of an element 504 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: to this running running attack than we had seen in 505 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: weeks past, even when they had been running successfully, it 506 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: had really been more about Clil Herbert running in the 507 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: context of the offense, which feels more as a scrambler, 508 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: this felt like he was a an equal part of 509 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: the offense, especially on third down in situations where they 510 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: needed to convert. This is a game where they were 511 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: great on third down eleven for eighteen against the Patriots, 512 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: which kept that defense on the field, tired of them out, 513 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: and I think led to a lot of the success 514 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: they had in the second and half of this game. 515 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: I third and lungs, A lot of third and lungs. 516 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: I mean the play that he made. I think it 517 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: was third and seven and he got flushed out and 518 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: again it looked like that there were so many players 519 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: where they could have sacked him and he got out 520 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: of it. And on at least three of them he 521 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: completed passes down the field when he could have run. 522 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: But the play I'm thinking of is the one to 523 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: commit where he just puts a beautiful throw down the sideline. 524 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: He he maybe not going to be the most consistent 525 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 1: quarterback this year throwing, I think that's obvious. But if 526 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: he has a handful of those each game, and he 527 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: had a couple on the early drives to where he 528 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: had a chance to run and he actually didn't. He 529 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 1: found wide open receivers in the middle after breaking outside 530 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: the pocket. That that's that's all the I think need 531 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: to at least be competitive with the running game that 532 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: he brings in that Montgomery and Herbert bring. Okay, so 533 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: on that commit catch very disputed. Uh, conversations happening about 534 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: that catch on the internet. Break. I know you were 535 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: busy doing work, but on the internet there was speculation 536 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: that cool Comet was trying to oky doke the Patriots 537 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: into using a challenge on a play where he caught 538 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: the ball believed that he was trying to fool the Patriots. 539 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: He didn't know like he was catching it and his 540 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: back is to the sideline and his heads flipped all around. 541 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: I think he just thought he landed out about because 542 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's a split second thing where like his 543 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: legs landed in bounds and then his back was quickly 544 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: out of bounds after that, Like, yeah, I don't think 545 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: he was playing the next level. Chi. I saw a 546 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: play this week where Sante Samuel Jr. Clearly dropped the 547 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: interception hen replay, and he was so confident that he 548 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: ran the length of the field sideline to sideline, signaling 549 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: I caught it. I caught it. I caught it, begging 550 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: Brandon Staley to challenge the play when again football was 551 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: standing on the ground without Samuel's hands underneath. Maybe Commett eident. 552 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: Maybe Commet is just a weirdly like I don't know 553 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: about you, but like every time I finished a podcast 554 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: and like driving home and I just think of all 555 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: the things that I could have done better and that 556 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: I said wrong, and like why am I so bad 557 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: at this? Maybe cold Commet is like us that there 558 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: is no pro athlete like us Greg. Unfortunately, that's why 559 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: we're point Because that's why we're here, I would be surprised. 560 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: I also don't think that cold Combetu was Okay Doke 561 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: in the Pattriots, though that would be incredible. I think 562 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: someone will do that eventually, but I don't think it 563 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: was cold Covet in this situation. No, I don't think so. 564 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: And um, I'm looking I really am looking forward to 565 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: watching them because this is one of the things that's 566 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: good if you if you try to watch as many 567 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: games as you can't you know fields is best three 568 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: passing games of the season are the last three and 569 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: they haven't been like amazing. But I would say, like 570 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: the third best passing game of the season was three 571 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: weeks ago, the second best passing game of the season. Granted, 572 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: I know they only scored seven points, but if you 573 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: watched that game, it wasn't like a brutal game. It 574 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: was it was passible how he threw the ball. And 575 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: then his best passing game of season was tonight. Like 576 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: you see an upward trajectory. So that's what more can 577 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: you ask for? Yeah, and I mean I think we're 578 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: seeing not just an upward trajectory from Fields, but from 579 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: sort of the offensive structure, and I think the offensive 580 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: line is bad and they're losing. Um. They lost an 581 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: offensive line in this game. Maybe there was two offensive 582 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: Lucas Patrick hurt. Yeah, I'm Patrick got hurt. They and 583 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: he was playing center for them. They had to bring 584 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: Sam Mustafer back in. Kevin Jenkins got hurt for I 585 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: think he went down but came right back. I'm not mistaken, 586 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: But I mean, I think about the Eagles last year 587 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: where they look kind of lost the first six weeks 588 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: of the Sea Bounce on offense that worked quarterback behind 589 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: their runningquarter. I don't think they're going to be as 590 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: good as I do think. I can believe that the 591 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: offense is going to get structurally better and Fields is 592 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: going to look more confident and more comfortable in that 593 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: offense as the season goes along. I don't think it's 594 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: gonna be linear. I think they'll be hiccups. Then they'll 595 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: be games where they struggle. I think they'll be depressing 596 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: moments when Fields does make mistakes because he's still a 597 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: young quarterback. But I think so far as a pro, 598 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: Justin Field's best moments have typically been when he sort 599 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: of figets the scheme and he forgets what he's doing 600 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: and just reacts off of instinct and makes a great 601 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: play with his legs tonight, right, And and I think 602 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: this week it felt a little more within the structure 603 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: of offense, which I think is really exciting. I agree. 604 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,719 Speaker 1: I mean, they they raised the ceiling of what I 605 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: am reasonably expecting of the Bears tonight this season because 606 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: in this week that we talked about this is a 607 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: defensive year, it's a bit of a running year, and 608 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: this is all relative to what the last few years. Obviously, 609 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,239 Speaker 1: you still need a great passing game in the end, 610 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: I think, but here are some final there's there are 611 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: some rushing totals from games that they've had just this 612 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: season tonight to forty three last week, to thirty seven 613 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: against the Giants, one forty nine against the Texans, two 614 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: eighty one against the Packers one eighty. So it's just 615 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: like when all that was happening, it was just like, Man, 616 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: if you just get a little bit of passing here 617 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: and now some defense, it's like they can be in 618 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: these games and they can maybe win seven or eight 619 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: games and that probably will have you mathematically alive in 620 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: week eighteen. There there is a certain kind of football 621 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: nerd who is who has has Bears Falcons in week 622 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: eleven circled on their calendar. That is going to be 623 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: the quite there. I'm not heavy. Uh, those two quarters 624 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: are up. But here's the thing. The Patriots are kind 625 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: of like the Falcons. Like they were running the ball 626 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: on first down, down three scores, just like the Falcons 627 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: were on Sunday against the Bengals. The Patriots were doing 628 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: it tonight and not running Harry up. Oh my god, 629 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: We've spent thirty four minutes on this game, Bill Barnwell, 630 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: I haven't even said the one thing that decided this 631 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: game place and then we'll move. There were six fumbles 632 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: in this game, great Rosa. The Bears were covered all 633 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: six of them. Yeah, that it was That was key. 634 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: I think Fields might have had what do you have three? 635 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: I felt like he had the one that was not 636 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: a snap, So that's credited to him. Technically he's credited 637 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: with four. And it's true. So many times I'm watching 638 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: these games and it's all about like how the ball 639 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: bounces off a tip or off a you know, squirt 640 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: in the pile or whatever. But this game I don't 641 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: think ultimately was totally decided by that. I think the 642 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: Bears were just well, I mean, but I'm team they 643 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: could where they lose a couple of fumbles early, the 644 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: Patriots got a couple of short fields and score, then 645 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: the Bears have to throw to catch up. If the yeah, 646 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: if the Patriots picked up four of those fumbles, instead 647 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: of being minus three in turnovers, they were plus three, 648 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: You're right. Obviously it's a it's a totally different game. 649 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: But wow, Bill Belichick, what a humbling that this was 650 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: supposed to be the whole passing George Hollis thing. And 651 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: I really got a haircut. I noticed, Um he gave 652 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 1: he gave ebra fluse like a very hug, long hug 653 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: and conversation at the end, which I don't know. I 654 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: think maybe that was because he was saying thank you 655 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 1: for kneeling at the one yard line instead of putting 656 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: a forty burger on us like I would have done 657 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: to you at the end. Um, I think Belichick was 658 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: ready for this, this coronation, and uh, instead it was 659 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: a nightmare. All Right, that's it for game time. We 660 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,959 Speaker 1: do have some coaching talk the Big List with Bill 661 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: Barnwell coming up after the break. I picked Bill a 662 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: different little segment here at the end of this show 663 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: because I thought this game might not be that exciting, 664 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: and I've got Barnewell on, and like, let's fill some 665 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: more time with Barnwell. Let's take advantage if we're gonna 666 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: make him stay up late. You told me you stayed 667 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: up till four am last night writing this is easy. 668 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 1: Oh for sure that that typical Sunday is between four 669 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: and five AM for me. So we're recording this in 670 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: the morning Eastern. This is a OK. I'll give you 671 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 1: like five it will be like five or ten. But 672 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: we've gone longer now than any Monday night football recap already, 673 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: and I haven't gotten to my top six list tonight. 674 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: The top six list is not a top six list 675 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: because I wanted to involve Bill and not just have 676 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: it be my list that he comments on. So instead 677 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 1: of just like a pure top six list in honor 678 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: of George, Papa hallis Papa Bear. I don't know what 679 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: they call him, Bill Belichick, Don Shula, you know all 680 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: the great coaches out there, We're each gonna pick three 681 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: coaches who have done a great job this year, and 682 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: we will keep it quick and get you out of here. Uh. 683 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: And you um sent me a text this week, UH 684 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: that at one point said, the best podcast duo of 685 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: the year gets the best game of the year. And 686 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: I don't think the game lived up to that. So 687 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,959 Speaker 1: let's let's do it as the best podcast duo. Let's 688 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: deliver some more content. Bill. We're gonna give three coaches 689 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: that we uh think I've done a great job this year. 690 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: Just any three coaches. And when you read another text 691 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: that from me, you read it as I wanted a 692 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: head coach, a coordinator, and a position coach. I meant 693 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 1: it could just be any but you picked one of each. 694 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna do the same. Let's let's have you go. 695 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: You can go first. I felt like that as a 696 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: level of granularity that I can hit with you. I mean, 697 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 1: if I'm doing other shows they want there's like eight 698 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: coaches people know, and I have to name three of 699 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: those coaches I can get. Okay, I do want to 700 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: ask a quick question. Actually, when you say the best 701 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: game of the year gets the best podcast two the year, 702 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: I read that as like Barnwell, for a second, I 703 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: read that, and then I realized you're not like this. 704 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: Maybe I would be like this if I said that 705 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: and made a joke that you were almost saying you're 706 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: wasting me on Bears pats. Really, Greg, I thought that's 707 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: what you were kind of saying, like why didn't you 708 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: save me for a big time one late in the year, 709 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: And I actually thought he's right, maybe should have saved him. 710 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely not, I was being facetious. But what I would 711 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: say is that I think I know from my perspective, 712 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: I have to podcasts every single week, and the football 713 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: is not always great every single week. I think you 714 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: need someone you have experience on a report with. We've 715 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 1: done each other for fifteen years now, so thinking this 716 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: game might have been bad, yeah, that actually was part 717 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: of it, you know. Uh yeah, I thought, uh, I 718 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: thought we got at it all. But that's why I 719 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: added this segment. And let's let's go through it. Give 720 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: me a coach. I don't know where you want to start, 721 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: but give me a coach like this year, and we'll 722 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: go through these quick. I will start at the very top. 723 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: I will start with a head coach and a guy 724 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: who gets plenty of attention and I still think does 725 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: not get enough and that is Mike Frebel. He took mine. 726 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: I told you, I bet you before the show we 727 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: were going to have one coach, at least one coaching comment. 728 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: I thought we're gonna have the same coordinator. But Mike 729 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: Frabel is head coach. Do you want to give me 730 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,399 Speaker 1: your explanation for why Mike f Abel is the head coach, Greig, 731 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: just because it's sort of impossible to know exactly what 732 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: a head coach does only winning records. For Mikey, that's sure, 733 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: seems sure, seems like like Mike Tomlin. Sure seems like 734 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: happened to be good for you, right exactly. But the 735 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: thing that I think you can measure is like when 736 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: you look at the team, are they greater than the 737 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: some of their parts? And are they that consistently? And 738 00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: that's that's Mike Frabel. I mean, I think they do 739 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 1: a very good job in Tennessee. And this is Rebel. 740 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: It happens on both sides of the football. I think 741 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: he serve some of the credit of developing their young players. 742 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: They have guys breakthrough each and every year. I mean 743 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: last year it was Christian Fulton. Harold Landry had a 744 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: queer year. But now this season. They lose Landry before 745 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 1: the year to a tour in a c L. Taylor 746 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 1: will one goes down either week one or week two, 747 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: I think week to Trey l On Berk's their first 748 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 1: round pick who they got after trading A. J. Brown. 749 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,439 Speaker 1: Their best receiver hasn't really been around this year because 750 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: he's been heard secondary has been inconsistent. Derrick Henry, even 751 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: though he's been better with the past few weeks, not 752 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: the same guy he was at his peak. And yet 753 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 1: they keep winning football games. They're winning with Dennis Daiott 754 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 1: left tackle. He is their wide receiver to Rashad Weaver 755 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: has been their primary pass rusher when Buddy Pree has 756 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: been hurt, Like you should not be able to keep 757 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,919 Speaker 1: doing this, and yet there one tackle of state Quon 758 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: Barkley in the backfield or one field goal at the 759 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 1: very end of that game from being five and one, 760 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: like yeah, and they got blown out in that game, 761 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: and that's you could you could flip a couple of 762 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: other games, but you're right. They also managed to like 763 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: get guys in quarterbacks faces very like quickly, just like 764 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 1: the game. Like they do a good job coaching up 765 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: their defensive line. Whoever who is their defensive line coach. 766 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 1: I'm putting you on the spot, Grave Digger right now, 767 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: justin Graver. You've made him so happy Bill, by the 768 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,439 Speaker 1: way he raised his hands in victory when you said, 769 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: Mike Rabel every year. Okay, Darryl Williams, wait, what did 770 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: you what did you forget? You forgot it? You forgot 771 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: it once again? Ready to go? Yeah? Yeah, Terrell Williams, Well, 772 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 1: he does a great job. They get unblocked defenders. All right, 773 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just leave you Mike Rabel as the coach. 774 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: We both picked him as the coach, and I'm just 775 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,720 Speaker 1: gonna go with an offensive coordinator, and that's Shane Waldron. 776 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: I have talked about Gino to the point of an 777 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 1: aulliance and exhaustion of almost anyone in my life, listeners, 778 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: co hosts, friends, family members, my children. Um, when was 779 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 1: the last time Shane Waldron was brought up on this show? 780 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,320 Speaker 1: Justin like, literally have we said the names Shane Waldron 781 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: in the now last month? Maybe when the Seahawks hired him. 782 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we've brought him up in passing 783 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: here or there, but it's mostly in context of Russell 784 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: Wilson and We talked about Rabel doing a good job 785 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: getting more out of his players than expected. When you 786 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: look at that offensive line with two rookies, and they 787 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: certainly have talent at the skill position, but you look 788 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: at Gino and you look at him being a system quarterback. 789 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: You know, I'm a huge Geno fan obviously, and he's 790 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: made a lot of big time throws, but I think 791 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: the thing he does best is kind of does what 792 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 1: the offense tells him to do in a calm manner. Well, 793 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: who's running that offense. It's Shane Waldron, the guy who 794 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: was getting killed last year. Are parts of the Russell 795 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,720 Speaker 1: Wilson era, and that offense is working fantastic. It's working 796 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: better on balance then Kyle Shanahans or Sean mcveigh's the 797 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 1: same coaching tree he was in, in the same division 798 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 1: he was in. Like, he's running the best offense in 799 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: that division. So kudos to Shane Waldron. Nice job. Um. 800 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: Do you believe the Seahawks are going to sign Gino 801 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: Smith to an extension during this shouldn't? They should know now? 802 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 1: I it's already annoying me that people are getting into 803 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: the Jalen Hurts contract extension talk now. It's like, let's 804 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: just let this play out, Like, why do we have 805 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 1: to do that? That's not fun. Gino is a little 806 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: different because he's on a one year, one million dollar contract. 807 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: He's in a different situation, So I think it's a 808 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,919 Speaker 1: legit conversation. I don't think they will um, but we'll see. 809 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: If we get to December and they're still in first place, 810 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 1: maybe that changes. I have bad news from the The 811 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 1: six element of this list that you've asked me to 812 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: put together as my positional coach is Seahawks running back 813 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 1: coach Chad Morden, assistant and run game coordinator below Shane Waldron, 814 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 1: and I thought about he's been there since seen obviously 815 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: he's been believe he's been the run game coordinator, the 816 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: running backs coach since and they have had so many 817 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,879 Speaker 1: different backs come through and play at a really high level. 818 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,479 Speaker 1: Chris Carson of course for the few years there. Shot Penny, 819 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: who was the first round pick but had injuries last year, 820 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 1: was I mean a top three running back when he 821 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: was healthy at the end of last season, and then 822 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 1: kept that up this year before fracturing his ankle. And 823 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,919 Speaker 1: now Kenneth Walker, their second round pick has looked incredible 824 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,320 Speaker 1: so far this year, both Walker and Penny averaging six 825 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,320 Speaker 1: point one yards per carry, Seahawks on the whole averaging 826 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: five and a half yards per carry, number one in 827 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 1: the NFL, and again without a great offensive lines. Morden, 828 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: who's the run game coordinator there, so he's the one 829 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 1: dialing up the run plays and then also coaching the 830 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 1: running backs. I think a very underrated coach for the 831 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 1: role he plays in that Seattle offne Well, they always 832 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: roll out four starting running backs a year and then 833 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: you're always like, Wow, this guy is amazing, and they're 834 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: they're all patient and they follow their hole as well, 835 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: and there they have consistency, which I really like that. 836 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 1: That was a good choice when when you when I 837 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 1: realized you were going to do a position coach, now 838 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: I felt shamed uh to doing it. So this was like, 839 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: admittedly a bit of a panic last minute move, but 840 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Marcus Dixon, the defensive line coach 841 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 1: of the Broncos, who's working under someone who would have 842 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: been a good coordinator. Pick a Gero ever, oh of 843 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 1: the Broncos. Well, you got the Broncos to what I 844 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: have some bad news My coordinator picks erro Ever, that's fine. 845 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: We need to get out of here anyways. Let's condense 846 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: these conversations at zero. Ever, another name that we haven't 847 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 1: talked about much on this list, and he was like 848 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: a Vic Fonio acolyte, but you know, I hadn't been 849 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: with him that long. Has been in the NFL for 850 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 1: fifteen years. And man, they are just a really tough 851 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: defense to find a breakdown in or a hole in. 852 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,359 Speaker 1: And yes, they're talented, but he's taken that defensive line, 853 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: Marcus Dixon specifically, and they run a lot of games. 854 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 1: They're they're creative and just different guys are coming off 855 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: the bench and they're all playing well. Yeah, and I 856 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 1: mean I think they're playing a lot better than they 857 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 1: even did a year ago. Road numbers loved them last year. 858 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: Stats like d v o A not so much. They 859 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 1: were twentie d v A last year, third in the 860 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 1: NFL this year, number one in points per drive allowed, 861 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: second in EPA per play, and that's without Justin Simmons. 862 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,320 Speaker 1: For a chunk of the year. They had Cadence Stearns 863 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 1: filling in, who looked great. In simmons is absence, haven't 864 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: had Randy Gregory for a chunk of the year, it's 865 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,359 Speaker 1: been Baron Browning, who suddenly looks like like a top 866 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: ten hurt. I got hurt on Sunday and is gonna 867 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 1: miss some time, which is really a bummer because he 868 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: was exciting. But Gregory Darby's done for the year. DJ 869 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: Jones um to the defensive line element to this has 870 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: been better here than he was in San Francisco. I mean, 871 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: they just have so many different players may tame plays, 872 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 1: and I think, like like we talked about, you know, 873 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: when you're getting more out of the guys you have 874 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 1: on the people before you, especially when it was Vic Fancio, 875 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: one of the most respected defensive coaches in the league. 876 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,720 Speaker 1: I think Everro has been one of the more valuable 877 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 1: coordinators in football so far. He's improved the Fngio defense 878 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: and m is another coach that Sean McVeigh loss. Ever 879 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 1: I was with the Rams the last four to five 880 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 1: years five years and was their passing game coordinators. So 881 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 1: if you've got to give him, Nathaniel Hackett credit for anything, 882 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 1: ever the best, that's what I'm saying. Give him credit 883 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: for the defensive staff that they hired. The coaches do 884 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 1: get credit for that, because Nathaniel I had could use 885 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 1: a little credit and a little help right now because 886 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: it's dark and they're writing, um, their writing. Could he 887 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: be fired during the season? Articles already in Denver local papers, 888 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: which is rough. But he did a nice job with 889 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 1: that defense, and that makes me think that there's at 890 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 1: least a chance their season isn't over. But the podcast 891 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 1: needs to be over soon. Bill, you've you've said it all, 892 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: and UM, I hope you haven't woken up your wife. 893 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: I would never wake up my wife. I'm smart enough 894 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: to know by marriage. My marriage is more important than uh, 895 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 1: finishing a podcast with my friend Greg Rosenthal. Really, so 896 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 1: she's so she's up, or she like has a sound 897 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: machine on, or you're just not that louder. You've got 898 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 1: like a nice big house where you're where you're far apart. 899 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 1: We have a eight hundred squarefoot apartment in Washington, d C. 900 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,800 Speaker 1: So I am trying to be relatively quiet, but I'm hoping. 901 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,439 Speaker 1: I think there's a white noise machine work working its magic. 902 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 1: I think there's a white noise app maybe hopefully doing 903 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 1: uh doing the work that needs to do. Um. If 904 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, if I am told in the morning that 905 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: I was in fact waking up my my poor wife. 906 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 1: Then I will personally blame you, Greg Rosenthal for getting 907 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 1: me so excited about an exciting Monday night football game. 908 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 1: I want you to and I've I've been in that 909 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 1: position and I've woken up, um, you know, my wife, 910 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 1: and it's a bad, embarrassing spot. I I just can't 911 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 1: stop talking and I can't stop being loud. But they 912 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: need to stop. Bill, we need to stop. So I 913 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 1: hope your family is good and uh, you know you're 914 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,839 Speaker 1: part of my football family. We gotta get you back here. 915 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: We've been We've been doing this talking for like you mentioned, 916 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 1: fifteen years, since way back when you were at Football Outsiders. 917 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,399 Speaker 1: Check Bill out on his podcast, Bill Barnewell Show, and 918 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: um on all his great articles and on Sports Center 919 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 1: with s v P and on Debatable. Look, I know 920 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: all of the Barnwell stuff. Is there anything else? I think? 921 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 1: I feel like that's most. That's that's literally every single 922 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 1: thing I do for ESPN. So that's it now. And 923 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 1: like the best writer in the game, um, uh great 924 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 1: at everything. Uh, but you gotta check out his writing. 925 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,800 Speaker 1: Get smarter and um and stop listening to this podcast. 926 00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: We will be back on Tuesday, Justin with another episode. 927 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 1: Well Mike Garafolo sitting in for tomorrow show. It's a 928 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 1: big week here head around the NFL for Bill Barnwell, 929 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 1: Justin Graver, and Bill Belichick. Keep the call.