WEBVTT - Pain & Bears! 0:00:01.950 --> 0:00:05.790 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the 0:00:05.830 --> 0:00:10.860 George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong 0:00:10.940 --> 0:00:27.300 and Getty. And now, here's Armstrong and Getty. No, he'll 0:00:27.340 --> 0:00:31.810 never get to that. Okay, we can't get to that one. Well, 0:00:31.850 --> 0:00:40.380 he'll never get to that one. Well, that one's impossible. Yep. Yep. 0:00:43.380 --> 0:00:47.400 Last night's tennis match, one of the biggest upsets in 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:50.769 a long, long time in tennis, and you got an American... 0:00:51.170 --> 0:00:53.099 Moving on in the U.S. Open, and we now have 0:00:53.140 --> 0:00:55.600 a face of American tennis, which we haven't had in many, many, 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:59.020 many years, as other countries have dominated. This Ben Shelton guy, 0:00:59.380 --> 0:01:02.080 who was the eighth seed, knocked off the defending champion, 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:04.840 and this guy who'd won 18 straight Grand Slam matches 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.360 and all this different sorts of stuff. A Spaniard. We 0:01:07.380 --> 0:01:10.420 don't want a Spaniard out there dominating tennis in our country. 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:13.120 I think Shelton's going to be the first American in 0:01:13.140 --> 0:01:14.720 the final in 29 years or something like that. 0:01:14.780 --> 0:01:18.850 Yeah, I mean, we haven't had men doing well in tennis, U.S. men, 0:01:18.870 --> 0:01:20.370 in a very, very long time. I used to watch 0:01:20.410 --> 0:01:23.240 tennis a lot. um and liked it and i wish 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:27.100 i had watched last night it went until 3 30 0:01:27.100 --> 0:01:31.830 in the morning there in new york east coast time 0:01:31.830 --> 0:01:33.569 3 30 a.m it was four and a half hours 0:01:33.610 --> 0:01:36.330 long the fact that it started at 11 30 is 0:01:36.370 --> 0:01:42.500 just nuts um i i missed the fact that this 0:01:42.540 --> 0:01:44.300 was happening i happened to call a friend of mine 0:01:44.380 --> 0:01:47.470 on a completely unrelated matter. Like I call friends about tennis, 0:01:47.510 --> 0:01:50.050 but I called a friend of mine and he said, yeah, 0:01:50.090 --> 0:01:53.450 I'm watching the tennis match. So tennis match, what tennis match? 0:01:53.470 --> 0:01:55.900 So somehow he had been aware that this was going 0:01:55.920 --> 0:02:00.860 to happen. Uh, and incredibly exciting. Like that point just there, 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:04.360 it was back and forth with like spinning around and 0:02:04.500 --> 0:02:06.810 diving and running as fast as you can and hitting 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:10.210 over your head and all kinds of crazy stuff like that. Anyway, 0:02:10.230 --> 0:02:13.150 you either like Tennessee or don't. So the story on 0:02:13.210 --> 0:02:16.070 this Ben Shelton guy is kind of interesting. And this 0:02:16.130 --> 0:02:19.760 is where I'm setting up the political angle because everything 0:02:19.820 --> 0:02:21.399 has to have a political angle, right? 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:22.020 Yes. 0:02:22.100 --> 0:02:26.280 Of Joe Scarborough from Morning Joe today. So this Ben 0:02:26.300 --> 0:02:31.100 Shelton guy, it's a pretty cool story because they come 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:36.270 here from Sierra Leone. His dad comes here as an immigrant. 0:02:37.180 --> 0:02:40.139 Can't find work, gets work at a local tennis club 0:02:40.180 --> 0:02:42.880 like it's a maintenance guy or whatever. And because he's 0:02:42.940 --> 0:02:45.840 working there, his kid gets to play tennis there for free. 0:02:46.260 --> 0:02:48.650 And it turns out to be a really good tennis player. 0:02:48.690 --> 0:02:50.269 And it's the only way they could afford. And then 0:02:50.290 --> 0:02:52.570 he gets swept up in the world of professional tennis. 0:02:53.090 --> 0:02:58.150 Nice story. But, of course, Trump hates that sort of thing, 0:02:58.330 --> 0:03:00.750 as described here by Joe Scarborough. 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:05.630 And here we are. He's now going into the semifinals. 0:03:05.030 --> 0:03:05.930 Of the U.S. Open. 0:03:06.350 --> 0:03:09.070 Willie, that is the American dream. A lot of people 0:03:09.090 --> 0:03:10.970 in the White House don't understand it. I'm not getting 0:03:11.010 --> 0:03:14.700 political here. They don't like these stories. They don't understand 0:03:14.780 --> 0:03:19.220 these stories. They think these people from other countries should 0:03:19.300 --> 0:03:20.410 be kept out. 0:03:21.090 --> 0:03:24.750 No, no. This is America. This is what makes. 0:03:24.610 --> 0:03:27.970 Our hearts swell with pride to see that. 0:03:27.889 --> 0:03:32.290 In America, anything is possible. You're right. That straw man 0:03:32.350 --> 0:03:35.350 beat him. Kill him. You're right. Straw man. Trump supporters 0:03:35.530 --> 0:03:40.170 all across America. So angry that this kid won this 0:03:40.210 --> 0:03:43.610 tennis match last night because his dad was an immigrant. 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:48.500 Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Is that 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:52.260 where we are on our conversations about this sort of thing? Yeah. 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:56.240 Everything's clickbait. Everything's rage bait. Oh, my God. Setting up 0:03:56.340 --> 0:03:58.780 straw man and kicking the hell out of them. That's 0:03:58.810 --> 0:04:01.950 what you think of. They're showing the tennis highlight on 0:04:01.970 --> 0:04:04.550 a show there in New York. It's an exciting match. 0:04:04.870 --> 0:04:07.350 And you turn it into, of course, Trump saw that 0:04:07.390 --> 0:04:09.850 and hated that because he hates the idea of any 0:04:10.490 --> 0:04:14.390 immigrant family doing well. What are you talking about? Another 0:04:14.410 --> 0:04:18.310 successful immigrant. Damn it. What are you talking about? I 0:04:19.850 --> 0:04:23.330 thought we'd moved past the idea that if you hate 0:04:23.350 --> 0:04:28.390 illegal immigration like almost everybody in America does, that that 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:31.260 means you hate the whole immigrant story and all immigrants. 0:04:31.460 --> 0:04:35.380 I thought we'd moved past that idiotic conversation. 0:04:35.910 --> 0:04:38.210 Boy, I despise it when people come to this country 0:04:38.270 --> 0:04:40.610 because they perceive it to be the land of opportunity, 0:04:40.910 --> 0:04:42.810 and then they succeed in their dreams and love the 0:04:42.850 --> 0:04:44.070 country more than about anybody. 0:04:44.390 --> 0:04:47.060 I hate those stories. You're right, Joe Scarborough. 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:51.060 You found us out. That's how pinheaded their viewers are. 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.040 What do they got, 30 viewers at this point? 0:04:55.200 --> 0:05:00.740 How's he make some damn much money? Wow. My jaw 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:02.960 was open as he was saying, really? That's what you're 0:05:02.990 --> 0:05:06.710 going to go with? Yeah. Just childlike. Yeah. Terrible. 0:05:07.310 --> 0:05:09.510 A couple of stories apropos of nothing, but we talked 0:05:09.529 --> 0:05:13.969 about them yesterday. Um, the Amazon plane that crashed in 0:05:14.010 --> 0:05:16.430 Miami and squashed those poor people in a van. 0:05:16.450 --> 0:05:20.370 Um, the, uh, the black box. Sucky way to go. 0:05:20.930 --> 0:05:24.110 Oh my God. It just, it's just, it's one in 0:05:24.190 --> 0:05:28.089 a zillion. Right. It's like getting hit by lightning. Well, 0:05:28.150 --> 0:05:32.190 the NTSB is, uh, really confused. I assume they're confused. 0:05:32.210 --> 0:05:35.720 Um, and anxious to interview the pilots, which they're going 0:05:35.740 --> 0:05:40.539 to do, I believe, today, because the black box showed 0:05:40.580 --> 0:05:45.200 that the Boeing 767 speed brakes, which are panels that 0:05:45.220 --> 0:05:49.440 create aerodynamic drag when you land, they were not deployed, 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:53.500 and neither were the thrust reversers. which redirect air to 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:58.450 slow the plane while it is landing. The aircraft's wheel 0:05:58.490 --> 0:06:01.370 brakes were applied 23 seconds before the end of the 0:06:01.410 --> 0:06:03.970 black box's recording, but then those brakes were released a 0:06:04.010 --> 0:06:07.750 few seconds later, and the throttles increased to levels consistent 0:06:08.050 --> 0:06:13.299 with go-around thrust, meaning aborting the landing and saying, we've 0:06:13.310 --> 0:06:14.419 got to take off again. 0:06:15.020 --> 0:06:17.900 He was so far past where he was supposed to land, 0:06:18.020 --> 0:06:19.919 you could have seen that he believed that he would 0:06:19.940 --> 0:06:22.099 have done that. We got to touch and go. We 0:06:22.140 --> 0:06:24.460 got to touch and go. Right. So the question is, 0:06:24.550 --> 0:06:26.289 was he on his phone or something and didn't know 0:06:26.310 --> 0:06:27.650 what he was supposed to do? Or did he hit 0:06:27.690 --> 0:06:31.190 all those buttons and the plane didn't react to the buttons? 0:06:31.770 --> 0:06:36.409 Yeah. Yeah. It's a real head scratcher at this point. 0:06:37.029 --> 0:06:40.100 The flight's captain, 55 years old, certified to fly the 0:06:40.150 --> 0:06:44.060 jet in May of this year. He had about 7,100 0:06:44.060 --> 0:06:47.840 flying hours. The first officer, 37 years old, certified last year, 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:49.500 had 2,600 flying. 0:06:49.220 --> 0:06:51.960 Hours as of last month. They're going to interview them today. 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.260 So who knows? Who knows? Something went terribly wrong. I 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:56.600 bet they'll be able to figure it out, though, don't 0:06:56.620 --> 0:06:59.700 you think? Of course, and it's just, I mean, if 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:01.980 he says, yeah, I pressed the buttons, is there a 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:03.830 way to figure out whether they pressed the buttons or 0:07:03.850 --> 0:07:05.450 not or pulled the levers or whatever there? 0:07:06.270 --> 0:07:10.910 You are well beyond my expertise on this topic. I 0:07:10.930 --> 0:07:13.810 found this very interesting, totally different topic. A great piece 0:07:13.830 --> 0:07:15.150 by Scott Morrison in the Journal. 0:07:16.410 --> 0:07:17.070 A couple of. 0:07:17.050 --> 0:07:21.390 Years ago, China decided to play the hard ass. On 0:07:22.450 --> 0:07:29.440 the rare earth minerals, specifically or most notably some of 0:07:29.460 --> 0:07:32.660 the rare earth stuff that's used in magnets and high-tech pursuits, right? 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:36.740 During the Trump administration, I'm sorry, I meant to explain. 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:40.500 Scott Morrison was the former prime minister of Australia when 0:07:40.540 --> 0:07:41.700 Trump was in office the first time. 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:42.430 Did not know that. 0:07:43.020 --> 0:07:45.340 But so he and Trump and some of our other 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.770 allies had a bunch of meetings about how vulnerable we 0:07:48.850 --> 0:07:53.510 were to China's monopoly on all of this stuff. And 0:07:53.530 --> 0:07:56.950 they started to work toward a world where we had 0:07:57.150 --> 0:08:01.270 different supply chains and capacity to develop our own or 0:08:01.390 --> 0:08:03.890 working with our allies to do that. And then a 0:08:04.310 --> 0:08:06.190 couple of years ago, as I started to say, when 0:08:06.230 --> 0:08:12.570 China decided to play the H.A., and enact all those 0:08:12.730 --> 0:08:20.580 import controls, it alerted everyone to, uh-oh, we need to 0:08:20.660 --> 0:08:26.680 supercharge our efforts. And he's saying it's yielded some really 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:30.850 good fruit so far, and that China made a huge miscalculation. 0:08:31.230 --> 0:08:34.449 Because like Iran closing the strait there for a while, 0:08:34.510 --> 0:08:37.990 and it's mostly closed now, made the rest of the 0:08:38.010 --> 0:08:41.470 world realize, all right, we can't be vulnerable to this 0:08:41.530 --> 0:08:44.250 sort of thing. Now all of the Western world has 0:08:44.290 --> 0:08:46.360 realized we can't be vulnerable to China, and now we 0:08:46.390 --> 0:08:49.500 are supercharging our efforts to do those things, to get 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:53.640 those minerals elsewhere. And in essence, he's saying China played 0:08:53.660 --> 0:08:56.839 their hand way too early. They alerted the world that 0:08:57.460 --> 0:08:59.880 we need to get smart, and the world is getting smart. 0:09:00.540 --> 0:09:04.160 So that's one good thing the Trump administration has done, absolutely. 0:09:05.260 --> 0:09:08.830 If he'd let immigrant tennis players in. Oh, for God's sake. 0:09:09.970 --> 0:09:10.910 Let's see. What time is it? 0:09:10.970 --> 0:09:11.209 All right. 0:09:11.330 --> 0:09:11.750 One more. 0:09:12.030 --> 0:09:16.070 One more. I found this super interesting. Because I think 0:09:16.110 --> 0:09:18.870 about this sort of thing a lot. There's something better 0:09:18.910 --> 0:09:22.950 than happiness, writes Mark Edmondson, who's a professor and author. 0:09:22.970 --> 0:09:31.820 And he's talking about retirement kind of, mostly, I guess. 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:37.520 But he talks about retirement. Labor Day is here. 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.760 You already missed the lapping waves and waves and subtle breezes. 0:09:40.850 --> 0:09:42.710 Maybe you're missing the forest where you can think your 0:09:42.750 --> 0:09:46.189 gentle thoughts in a green shade. You found what therapists 0:09:46.250 --> 0:09:49.550 and yoga teachers call your happy place and how that's 0:09:49.750 --> 0:09:50.670 all lovely. 0:09:51.010 --> 0:09:53.570 I don't like forests because I can't get a good signal. 0:09:54.530 --> 0:09:54.870 Wow. 0:09:55.030 --> 0:09:57.710 Keep track of my doom scroll. How many people clicked 0:09:57.790 --> 0:09:58.750 on my tweet. 0:09:59.330 --> 0:09:59.870 Right. Yeah, that's. 0:10:00.100 --> 0:10:00.980 Very frustrating. 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:03.140 But he says, most of us think the goal of 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.780 life is to work hard, succeed, and live softly for 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.590 the rest of our days. Get on a sailboat to nowhere. 0:10:09.050 --> 0:10:11.970 Go to the south of France and sample every wine-paired dish. 0:10:12.290 --> 0:10:14.589 Float from one music festival to the next. 0:10:15.530 --> 0:10:16.410 Then he cites some. 0:10:16.290 --> 0:10:19.930 Philosophers who agree with him and some great authors of history. 0:10:20.130 --> 0:10:22.429 I'm not one of those people, by the way. Yeah, 0:10:22.510 --> 0:10:25.240 I really enjoy that sort of stuff, watching the birds. Oh, 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:26.060 I could do it for hours. 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:29.360 But then he points out there are others who think 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:32.100 that happiness of this sort, if not to be avoided altogether, 0:10:32.820 --> 0:10:35.900 then it needs to be taken in guarded doses. 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:37.160 He says, I'm with him. 0:10:37.420 --> 0:10:41.070 The German philosopher, Arthur Schopenhauer, warned us that human beings 0:10:41.090 --> 0:10:42.130 have two main enemies. 0:10:43.540 --> 0:10:45.510 The evildoers and your neighbors. 0:10:45.630 --> 0:10:51.300 Bears. Pain and bears. No, pain and boredom. We use 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.979 our intellects to guard ourselves from pain. And this is 0:10:54.100 --> 0:10:59.079 so good because I've seen this. Once we've escaped pain, 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:03.300 the mind keeps worrying on, demanding new objectives, new distractions. 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.840 So off we go into folly. We gamble and often lose. 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:08.830 We have affairs and fracture our marriages. 0:11:08.890 --> 0:11:09.850 We provoke quarrels. 0:11:10.130 --> 0:11:12.830 By their nature, our minds cannot rest. The problem with 0:11:12.870 --> 0:11:15.130 that happy life we're pining for is that it will 0:11:15.170 --> 0:11:20.300 inevitably breed boredom, and boredom begets trouble. And Schopenhauer wrote 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.660 that against boredom, a man has, quote, a great many 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:30.130 fancied remedies, balls, theaters, parties, cards, gambling, horses, women, drinking, traveling. 0:11:30.410 --> 0:11:34.949 These are temporary. Soon we're bored again. And so his solution, 0:11:35.050 --> 0:11:37.750 and I find this very compelling, find something to occupy 0:11:37.790 --> 0:11:41.179 your intellect. Whether you're collecting coins or stamps, learning about 0:11:41.220 --> 0:11:44.620 insects and birds, acquire languages, read good books, summarize them 0:11:44.660 --> 0:11:47.540 in journals, do not let the mind succumb to idleness. 0:11:48.020 --> 0:11:50.810 Most scenes that people associate with happiness, the golden beach, 0:11:51.090 --> 0:11:53.689 the splashing waterfall, are boredom traps. 0:11:53.970 --> 0:11:57.330 I don't, because I've lived this, I got to live 0:11:57.350 --> 0:11:59.840 this when I was younger. Not everybody does, because you 0:11:59.860 --> 0:12:03.260 have kids and have a normal life. I have no 0:12:03.380 --> 0:12:05.979 interest in sitting on a beach or any of those 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.819 things that you just described. At some point when I 0:12:08.860 --> 0:12:11.520 have the time. Because it's a dead end, man. It's 0:12:11.590 --> 0:12:15.230 a dead end. It wears off really fast. Right. 0:12:15.830 --> 0:12:18.250 Right. And a guy like me probably loves it because, 0:12:18.309 --> 0:12:20.510 you know, believe it or not, we work really hard 0:12:20.550 --> 0:12:21.010 at this job. 0:12:21.830 --> 0:12:23.370 And so it's great to have a break and clear 0:12:23.410 --> 0:12:23.830 the mind. 0:12:24.429 --> 0:12:26.090 And then he gets into the female. 0:12:26.110 --> 0:12:27.650 I have no breaks currently, but I was thinking about 0:12:27.710 --> 0:12:29.930 back in the day when I didn't have kids and 0:12:29.950 --> 0:12:31.569 I had money and I got an easy job. I 0:12:31.950 --> 0:12:34.390 get to do whatever I want. And that's a dry 0:12:34.450 --> 0:12:37.660 hole for happiness, I can tell you. Yeah, yeah. 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:39.679 And then he gets into the female version of it. 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:43.720 That's pretty interesting, too. It's a little old-timey because, you know, 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:45.720 he was kicking it in, what, the last century? 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:52.190 Pretty new problem in the history of Homo sapiens, though. 0:12:52.970 --> 0:12:53.410 Oh, yeah. 0:12:53.429 --> 0:12:57.710 To ever be in a situation where you could get bored, 0:12:57.730 --> 0:13:00.590 where you're not scrambling every day to come up with 0:13:00.650 --> 0:13:05.200 some food, or you died about the time you quit working. Mm-hmm. 0:13:05.970 --> 0:13:08.390 Just super, super briefly, then we need to take a break. 0:13:10.020 --> 0:13:15.040 Simone de Beauvoir also argues for activity over passive forms 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:17.959 of happiness. And she's talking about how some women, their 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:21.250 most dangerous temptation is what she called being in itself. 0:13:21.350 --> 0:13:25.630 People who cultivate like the standard of perfection. They strive 0:13:25.690 --> 0:13:28.309 to show others that they are complete and whole and 0:13:28.350 --> 0:13:30.069 fit and beautiful and blah, blah, blah. There's nothing wrong 0:13:30.090 --> 0:13:32.750 with being fit. But this is a condition, she argues, 0:13:32.809 --> 0:13:35.869 especially tempted for women and girls. Everyone encourages them to 0:13:35.910 --> 0:13:39.740 be pretty, self-contained, perfect. The girl must make herself object. 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.760 She must therefore renounce her autonomy. She's treated like a 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:46.540 living doll, and freedom is denied her. Anyway, food for thought. 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:52.089 The term living doll reminded me of sex dolls, which 0:13:52.130 --> 0:13:54.110 reminded me of, we were going to talk about that today, 0:13:54.130 --> 0:13:55.089 and I think I'm going to put it in the 0:13:55.170 --> 0:13:59.569 One More Thing podcast. An interesting, serious article about where 0:13:59.650 --> 0:14:03.430 sex dolls are headed. along with AI, for the One 0:14:03.450 --> 0:14:05.130 More Thing podcast. Did you know that if you subscribed 0:14:05.150 --> 0:14:09.550 to Armstrong and Getty On Demand, One More Thing auto-downloads? Effortless. 0:14:10.150 --> 0:14:12.110 Speaking of AI, it's in the news today. We got 0:14:12.130 --> 0:14:14.450 a couple of texts about that topic with the guy 0:14:14.490 --> 0:14:17.350 who quit Anthropic because he's scared. If you haven't heard that, 0:14:17.390 --> 0:14:21.640 stay tuned, among other things, on the way. Armstrong and Getty. 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:27.800 The CEO of Anthropic, Dario Amadei, has said he believes 0:14:27.990 --> 0:14:31.410 we should have policies in place to pace the development 0:14:31.570 --> 0:14:32.250 of AI. 0:14:32.690 --> 0:14:35.150 If you think of the extent to which AI can 0:14:35.190 --> 0:14:39.890 make individualized propaganda, can break into any computer system in 0:14:39.930 --> 0:14:46.810 the world, can, you know, surveil everyone in a population, 0:14:46.830 --> 0:14:48.229 it's really scary and we have. 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:51.870 To stop it. So cynics say that's a ploy. What 0:14:51.900 --> 0:14:55.090 are we talking about here? Guy who worked for Anthropic, 0:14:55.190 --> 0:14:57.990 which is the leading AI company in the world right now, 0:14:59.310 --> 0:15:02.350 quit because he said, yeah, in the hallways, they're having 0:15:02.390 --> 0:15:05.480 conversations about the fact that this could kill everybody on 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:08.220 Earth by the end of the decade. And I feel 0:15:08.260 --> 0:15:12.430 like this, we should stop. He also worked for OpenAI. 0:15:12.490 --> 0:15:15.850 He had quit OpenAI because he thought they didn't care 0:15:15.890 --> 0:15:18.010 enough about the damage that AI was going to do. 0:15:18.270 --> 0:15:19.770 So we went big on this in hour one. If 0:15:19.810 --> 0:15:22.510 you want to hear the whole discussion and go through 0:15:22.570 --> 0:15:25.770 all the tweets from this guy who quit Anthropic, you 0:15:25.790 --> 0:15:27.870 can catch it in hour one on the podcast, Armstrong 0:15:27.910 --> 0:15:32.360 and Getty on Demand. His name is Jacob Coxon, 27-year-old 0:15:32.980 --> 0:15:35.800 researcher working at two of the biggest companies in the world. 0:15:38.730 --> 0:15:42.580 And he argues that both labs are racing towards self-improving 0:15:42.660 --> 0:15:46.000 superintelligence that they don't know how to control and that 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:50.730 insiders privately treat extinction as a live possibility by the 0:15:50.870 --> 0:15:53.590 end of the decade. Now, a couple of things from... 0:15:54.930 --> 0:15:57.050 Joe's question is a bad one. It's a good question. 0:15:57.260 --> 0:15:59.400 This decade or the next decade? I mean, they're both bad. 0:15:59.740 --> 0:16:02.000 Or like a new decade starting right now. Or does 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:04.320 he mean the 2020s? Because that's only three years. Are 0:16:04.340 --> 0:16:06.520 we talking three, three and a half years or three 0:16:06.540 --> 0:16:08.700 and a quarter years or 13 and a quarter years? 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:14.110 Because I got a budget accordingly. Yeah, for planning purposes. 0:16:14.210 --> 0:16:17.150 So there's that question. There's also a number of people 0:16:17.190 --> 0:16:23.820 have texted, kill us how? Human beings will be extinct 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:26.180 in 10 years. How? 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:31.350 Rampaging robot dogs with guns. Shooting lasers out of their eyes. 0:16:33.330 --> 0:16:37.130 Biological agents, electrocutions, boilings. 0:16:37.150 --> 0:16:41.100 I don't know. Anyway, to the... Other part of it, 0:16:41.130 --> 0:16:44.310 people who think Darius Amodi, who is seen by most 0:16:44.370 --> 0:16:47.210 people who know him as the guy with a conscience 0:16:47.250 --> 0:16:49.590 in the world of AI, that, of course, he and 0:16:49.670 --> 0:16:52.240 his people keep saying that they want the rules to 0:16:52.270 --> 0:16:54.460 get in place while they're ahead as the number one 0:16:54.500 --> 0:16:57.580 company in the world. So they want the guidelines to 0:16:57.620 --> 0:17:00.520 be put in place while they're number one. Everybody who 0:17:00.580 --> 0:17:02.260 knows him says he's this kind of guy that he 0:17:02.340 --> 0:17:06.350 actually does care about this. I don't know. There's a 0:17:06.410 --> 0:17:07.370 lot of money overwhelmed. 0:17:07.970 --> 0:17:12.170 So Marco Rubio and I share one characteristic. We're both 0:17:12.210 --> 0:17:13.030 handsome Cubans. 0:17:13.109 --> 0:17:16.280 No, wait, no. We both hate Marxists. Stay with us. 0:17:16.300 --> 0:17:21.060 Armstrong and Getty. My head is bleeding, which is not 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:24.780 a good look. Hey, Jack. It's fine. How do you do? 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:28.600 Can't help but notice the open wound. I was. 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.510 I was at my parents' house, and they have a minivan, 0:17:32.530 --> 0:17:33.720 and I was getting something out of the back, and 0:17:33.740 --> 0:17:36.970 I bent over too soon as the van lid opened 0:17:37.050 --> 0:17:40.570 up and hit my head on that sharp latch thing. Oh, no! 0:17:40.650 --> 0:17:42.550 I don't know how many times I've done that. They 0:17:42.609 --> 0:17:46.550 need to make the latch on vehicles less sharp, because 0:17:46.590 --> 0:17:48.389 it's the most likely thing to hit your head on. 0:17:49.330 --> 0:17:51.350 Is there a way to make it less sharp? Anyway. 0:17:51.369 --> 0:17:53.850 This is your new cause. Give generously. It just did 0:17:53.869 --> 0:17:54.390 to my head. 0:17:55.310 --> 0:17:58.550 So Marco Rubio and I, and Jack for that matter, 0:17:58.790 --> 0:18:03.369 share something in common. We despise communists, Marxism. Coming up, 0:18:03.430 --> 0:18:07.030 the most dangerous intellectual of the 20th century. Not the 0:18:07.070 --> 0:18:09.910 most famous or the most read. You probably never heard 0:18:09.950 --> 0:18:13.909 his name. But in terms of damage done, I would argue, well, 0:18:13.990 --> 0:18:16.710 not more dangerous than Marx because he used Marx's ideas. 0:18:16.770 --> 0:18:19.990 But one of the most damaging people who's ever lived 0:18:20.060 --> 0:18:20.320 on Earth. 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:23.240 We will explain. He's as quoted as Marx, but people 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:25.629 don't know it. Yeah, yeah, indeed. 0:18:25.650 --> 0:18:31.330 His marching orders are absolutely the marching orders of the 0:18:31.490 --> 0:18:33.350 degenerate woke left. 0:18:34.170 --> 0:18:36.930 By the way, before we start Marco Rubio yesterday talking 0:18:36.950 --> 0:18:39.450 about communism, it looked to me like he was speaking 0:18:39.490 --> 0:18:40.430 off the top of his head. 0:18:41.390 --> 0:18:41.550 Yeah. 0:18:42.190 --> 0:18:44.410 Which is pretty impressive, given what you're about to hear. 0:18:45.030 --> 0:18:47.810 Yeah, he's given a speech at a forum. I can't 0:18:47.830 --> 0:18:51.270 remember which one. It doesn't really matter. But will Marco 0:18:51.330 --> 0:18:51.950 speak for himself? 0:18:52.420 --> 0:18:53.920 I'm going to give a speech I've never given before. 0:18:54.020 --> 0:18:57.620 I hate Marxism and I hate communism. And I hate 0:18:57.640 --> 0:18:59.399 it because everywhere in the world it's ever been tried, 0:18:59.460 --> 0:19:03.379 it's led to tyranny and poverty and exile and oppression. 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:08.830 And there's a mistake that people have made. Maybe some 0:19:08.850 --> 0:19:10.810 of us, maybe myself, have been guilty of it. And 0:19:10.850 --> 0:19:14.050 that is the belief that somehow Marxism is dead. That 0:19:14.070 --> 0:19:16.590 Marxism is now something that crazy people at the faculty 0:19:16.609 --> 0:19:18.950 club at some university talk about, but it isn't really 0:19:18.990 --> 0:19:22.910 alive anymore. The other mistake we make is that Marxism 0:19:22.970 --> 0:19:26.600 is some sort of economic theory. Neither one of those 0:19:26.619 --> 0:19:30.060 things is true. Marxism is not dead and it's not 0:19:30.100 --> 0:19:30.879 an economic theory. 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:33.680 What's happened is that Marxists. 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:36.740 Realize what the track record of Marxism is around the world, 0:19:36.780 --> 0:19:39.830 so they don't want to call themselves Marxists anymore. They 0:19:39.850 --> 0:19:43.470 have found new titles, things that frankly sound benign and 0:19:43.490 --> 0:19:46.109 you almost feel guilty being against, social justice. Who can 0:19:46.130 --> 0:19:49.109 be against social justice? But that's the terminology they come 0:19:49.150 --> 0:19:52.109 up with, equity. equity, who can be against equity? 0:19:56.030 --> 0:19:57.590 Go on Marco, you got a head of steam. 0:19:58.150 --> 0:20:00.690 But the truth of the matter is that, and this 0:20:00.710 --> 0:20:04.129 is not about economics solely, the old Marxism was the 0:20:04.260 --> 0:20:08.050 argument that the capitalist system, the whole system, was flawed 0:20:08.250 --> 0:20:11.359 and rigged and it divided people. It said the world 0:20:11.420 --> 0:20:14.000 and society and capitalist societies are divided between two groups. 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:17.740 You have one group which owns the businesses, they're the oppressors, 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:21.050 and you have the workers, everybody else, that group are 0:20:21.070 --> 0:20:24.129 the victims. And that's how communism works. It creates a 0:20:24.150 --> 0:20:26.929 victim class, it creates an oppressor class, and then it 0:20:26.990 --> 0:20:29.270 says the only way to fix this is we have 0:20:29.290 --> 0:20:30.470 to overthrow this system. 0:20:31.290 --> 0:20:34.000 We need a revolution. We need a government to take over. 0:20:35.060 --> 0:20:37.420 And make everything fair, and we need a government that 0:20:37.580 --> 0:20:40.359 goes to the former oppressors and makes them apologize for 0:20:40.380 --> 0:20:44.719 being an oppressor, be reeducated into responsible people, and pay 0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:45.720 a penance for what they've done. 0:20:46.460 --> 0:20:53.150 That's the old Marxism. And it sounds familiar. Take it home, Marco. 0:20:53.210 --> 0:20:53.790 Take it home. 0:20:54.290 --> 0:20:57.070 Because today, we are being asked to divide. First of all, 0:20:57.090 --> 0:21:00.040 we're being told that America in and of itself... was 0:21:00.100 --> 0:21:04.340 founded on racism, prejudice, and evil. Not that we have 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:06.820 a history of racism or prejudice, but that we were 0:21:06.859 --> 0:21:10.030 founded on, that that's the foundation of our society, that 0:21:10.050 --> 0:21:11.950 we are irredeemably broken in our history. 0:21:12.770 --> 0:21:14.410 The system, that the system is rigged. 0:21:15.230 --> 0:21:18.689 Not about capitalism, the system is set up to benefit 0:21:18.710 --> 0:21:20.010 the oppressor versus the victim. 0:21:20.210 --> 0:21:21.030 And who's the oppressor? 0:21:21.250 --> 0:21:23.290 The oppressor, basically, if you listen to some of these people, 0:21:23.550 --> 0:21:29.890 is anyone who is a white, male, heterosexual. and everybody 0:21:29.990 --> 0:21:34.190 else i guess myself included being a cuban-american is a 0:21:34.230 --> 0:21:38.390 victim and the only answer is for government to step 0:21:38.410 --> 0:21:41.530 forward and create equity and make things. 0:21:41.390 --> 0:21:44.970 Fair that's pretty good off the top your head which 0:21:45.050 --> 0:21:47.320