1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: All right, and welcome into the Fantasy Pros. Fantasy Football 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Podcast is just about that time of year when NFL 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: training camps get underway and redrafts start firing up. Therefore, 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: we've got six discounted players that left kind of a 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: sour taste of manager's mouse a year ago, creating a 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: potential bounce back opportunity. 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: I'm your host, Seth. 8 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 1: Wilcock, back with a couple of boys that I'll be 9 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: seeing in person in just about a week's time from 10 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: now in Kanton, Ohio for the Fantasy Football Expo. That's right, 11 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: it's Pat Fitzmorris and downtown Derek Brown. Fitzie, what's the 12 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: one oh one stop? And can't anything from the Pro 13 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame or George's Lounge? 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 2: Well, what sticks out to you? There is your one 15 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: on one. 16 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 3: Oh, it's Georgia's Lounge. I'm wearing the today, So let's go. 17 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 4: Let's go. 18 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, although what's the name of the golf 19 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 3: course we play on Friday? 20 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 2: Spring Valley? 21 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 3: Spring Spring Valley? Yeah, I mean, I who can forget 22 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 3: your incredible pitch in for a thirty last year in 23 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: our scramble event. So a lot of different places. Hall 24 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 3: of Fame is greats. Just looking forward to seeing everyone. 25 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: Certainly agreed with you, Deebro. 26 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: Also looking forward to seeing you as well, although you 27 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: kind of act like a bit of a grandpa on 28 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: this trip. You retire much earlier in the night with 29 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: than FITZI and I. 30 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: You take your. 31 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: Chicken tables, you go back to your room, and then 32 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: I don't see you till like afternoon. 33 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: The next day you do sleep in. You can't disagree 34 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: with that one. 35 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 4: Hold up, let's correct some let's correct things to open 36 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 4: this freaking show. I do not go in early. I 37 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 4: will absolutely fits can absolutely vouch. We have closed down 38 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 4: George's together now that's that's. 39 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: Just the pre party though now you miss the partying in. 40 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 4: Is absolutely correct. I am not a morning person. I 41 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 4: will not be out there like FITZI getting breakfast at 42 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 4: seven am. You will not see me out on the 43 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 4: golf course unless it's like we can go to a 44 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 4: driving range and partake of a few beverages while we're 45 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 4: doing it. I'm not walking an eighteen whole course. I'm 46 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 4: just not doing that. But just to correct the record here, 47 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 4: I am I'm I'm not as young as I once was, 48 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 4: but I'm not old, but I will so also own 49 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 4: there are a few people on the face of this 50 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 4: planet that could party like a pat fits more So, Okay, 51 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 4: I just want to throw that out there. There are 52 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 4: a few humans out there that I have seen in 53 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 4: my lifetime that could stay up to three or four 54 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 4: am and toss them back with the best of them 55 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 4: and get up at six am or seven am like 56 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 4: nothing ever happened, and be like, hey, you want to 57 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 4: go get some eggs and bacon. What's up? Let's go. 58 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 4: And I'm like, no, I'm going back to sleep. Nope, 59 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 4: So shout out to Patty. 60 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why we appreciate him and need his steady 61 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: guidance here on this particular program. Of course, we're gonna 62 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: get to those six favorite bounce back candidates coming your way, 63 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: but first, please give this for you a thumbs up 64 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: if you enjoy this type of content, if you like 65 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: hearing about our late nights and can or any of 66 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: the face football advice we have to drop for you. Also, 67 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: don't forget to subscribe to the channel. 68 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 2: If you're new. 69 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: Closing in on three hundred thousand subscribers, we can only 70 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: get there with your help and let's jump right in here, gentlemen. 71 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: Starting with a player who was pretty doomed from the start, 72 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: Derek last year, of course having that training camp hold in, 73 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: then that turning into a three year, ninety six million 74 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: dollar re up for this particular player. 75 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, Terry McLaurin, I mean his season. All these 76 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 4: guys that like have the training camp hold ins, it's 77 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 4: kind of like you're just like, Okay, well, when's the 78 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 4: injury come and what reck's your season? Because it's almost 79 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 4: tried and true every single time this happens with contract guys, 80 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 4: and it happened to McLaurin. And but it's good man, 81 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 4: Like we're getting a discount on him this year, like 82 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 4: wide receiver, like at the back end, wide receiver two 83 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 4: and ADP ECR best ball, ADP wherever you look at. 84 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 4: And I think it's wrong. I think we get the 85 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 4: Terry McLaurin of the previous year where he was wide 86 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 4: receiver fourteen and fantasy points per game. I think the 87 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 4: bounce back is real. Like what has changed from McLaurin 88 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 4: and the outlook of his targets this year? What like 89 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 4: have they added some monster receiver that I'm unaware of 90 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 4: chickakon Quo, No Deebo, Samuel Gone, zach Ertz gone, Antonio 91 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 4: Williams no. So who else to be worried about? Like, 92 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 4: who would we really worried about threatening mclaurin's perch at 93 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 4: the very top of this target hierarchy. There's nobody, man, 94 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 4: And now we get David Blough coming in without Cliff Kingsberry. 95 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 4: Like Kingsbury has been known for tried and true for 96 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 4: years and years. He's not gonna motion guys. He doesn't 97 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 4: move them around the formation. 98 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 3: It is static. 99 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 4: You play one side, go win your routes, and you 100 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 4: get targets. And we could see a career high and 101 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 4: that's not insane for Terry McLaurin this year and he 102 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 4: was freaking fantastic, Like every single per route metric you 103 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 4: pull up, he was awesome. Do his fourth and first 104 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 4: downs per route run last year, despite with the injury 105 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 4: and all this stuff around Washington last year, still thirteenth 106 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 4: in yards per route run. I've got McLaurin as a 107 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 4: top fifteen wide receiver, and I feel like that's where 108 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 4: people should be at because I don't see the downside 109 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 4: of McLaurin unless we want to talk about injuries and 110 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 4: what have you, and then it's just like you can 111 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 4: make that kind of case for any player in the NFL. 112 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great point. 113 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 1: Fits he five one thousand yard seasons for the Ohio 114 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: State product, But at the same time, that twenty twenty 115 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: four season definitely an outlier because of the touchdowns in particular. 116 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: So where do you find McLaurin and where do you 117 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: find you taking him in drafts. 118 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 3: If you are at all I'm with Debro He's been 119 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: a pretty easy click for me. 120 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 2: Okay. 121 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 3: I just think he goes back to where he was 122 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: with Jayden and Daniels, and maybe that was the difference 123 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: with his touchdown production in twenty twenty four that he 124 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: wasn't playing with some of the Jabroni's he's had to 125 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: play with at quarterback in Washington over the years. So 126 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,799 Speaker 3: gets Jaden Daniels immediately has eighty two catches, almost eleven 127 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 3: hundred yards, thirteen touchdowns and Deebrow wasn't he top ten 128 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 3: in half point PPR points per game? 129 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? 130 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: He was? I thought, Yeah, man, I don't know if 131 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 3: he repeats that, but I do think it's going to 132 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: be another good season. I think he's a value where 133 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 3: he's being drafted. 134 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 4: But if he doesn't repeat the thirteen touchdowns, so be it. 135 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 4: But like we're talking about a guy like to Fitzi's point, 136 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 4: had eleven hundred receiving yards. What do he sees a 137 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 4: high in targets? Like what if we see Jaydon Daniels 138 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 4: taking more step and like he's a thirteen hundred yard 139 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 4: receiver instead of being like in that eleven hundred thousand 140 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 4: yard mark year after year, what if he takes another 141 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 4: leap where the volume gets into that thirteen hundred mark, 142 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 4: then okay, fine, Like he doesn't need the thirteen touchdowns, 143 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 4: then cool, we're sniffing eight to ten touchdowns, all right, 144 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 4: so be it. 145 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't drafted him once this season, but I 146 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: think maybe now you guys are starting to talk me 147 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: down that direction and fits I want to bring up 148 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: a player next too. I feel like we are contractably 149 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: obligated to talk about him at Fancy Pros right now. 150 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: You're either all the way in or all the way out, 151 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: So tell me why you're in on this particular running back. 152 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna talk about Bucky Irving Seth and I 153 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 3: think I'm the only one anywhere in the fantasy community. 154 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 3: It seems like, at least among the analyst community, who's 155 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: all the way in And I hope you're going to 156 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 3: throw it to Debro for a possible rebuttal after I'm done, 157 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 3: because I'm gonna start with I'm gonna start with the premise. 158 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: I think Deebro and I might disagree on felhly and 159 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 3: I think efficiency stats and a lot of the advanced 160 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 3: metrics for running backs are kind of noisy and don't 161 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 3: do a great job of illustrating true talent level. So 162 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 3: like take yards after contact, for instance, what is the 163 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: nature of the contact? Is it a linebacker squaring up 164 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: a running back in the hole and somehow the running 165 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 3: back manages to bounce off like that would be impressive. 166 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 3: Or is it a cornerback just barely getting a piece 167 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: of a running back as he's hitting a hole at 168 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 3: full speed. And if that run goes for sixty yards, 169 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: does the running back get credit for fifty or fifty 170 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: five yards after contact? Like I heard a fantasy analyst 171 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 3: I greatly respect citing Bucky Irving's rushing yards over expected 172 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 3: from twenty twenty five. It's one of the reasons to 173 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 3: fade him in twenty twenty six. Bucky was dead last 174 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 3: in rushing yards over expected per carry last year among 175 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 3: all running backs with at least one hundred carries. That 176 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 3: does seem pretty damning, But in twenty twenty four, Bucky 177 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 3: was sixth in rushing yards after over expected per kerry. Now, 178 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: the Buccaneers offensive line was a well oiled machine. In 179 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: Bucky's rookie year, they ranked second in the run blocking 180 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: adjusted lineyards. Last year, the offensive line totally shredded by injuries, 181 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 3: Bucks ranked twenty second in adjusted lineyards. I know the 182 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 3: intent of rushing yards overexpected is to filter out everything 183 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: but the ability of a running back to make yardage 184 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 3: on his own, But are we really to believe that 185 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: the quality of blocking had nothing to do with Bucky 186 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: acing the rushing yards over expected per carry metric in 187 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four and completely bombing it in twenty twenty five. 188 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: And also, did I miss some sort of offseason memo 189 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 3: that Kenny Gainwell is spectacular? I don't think I was 190 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 3: c seed on that one. Like, maybe it's because I 191 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 3: used my full name in the email address. 192 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 4: I can look you into the email thread. 193 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Fitz Morris is hard to spell. Is it m 194 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: O R R I S or m A U R 195 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 3: I ceh? The heck with it. I'll just leave him 196 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 3: off this email. So I did miss that memo. Gainwell 197 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: averaged six point seven carries a game for the Steelers 198 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 3: last year, and that was a career high. But Gainwell 199 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 3: is a great receiving back right well. Bucky his average 200 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 3: one point five to six yards per out run for 201 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: his NFL career, Gainwell one point one point nine. Bucky 202 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 3: had forty seven catches as a rookie, even though he 203 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: was used pretty sparingly early in the season. Here's an 204 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 3: offseason quote from new Bucks O C Zach Robinson. Hat 205 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: tip to Greg from the coach Speak Index for this one. 206 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 3: This was when someone brought up Bejon Robinson, who Zach 207 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 3: Robinson coached in Atlanta, as part of a question about Bucky, 208 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 3: and Zach Robinson said, I see Bucky in a very 209 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: similar light with what he can do in the passing game, 210 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 3: and there's not a run concept that he can't run. 211 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 3: So I'm excited to work with Bucky and know that 212 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 3: there's a ton of meat on the bone in the 213 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 3: passing game that's encouraging. I mean, it's fair to worry 214 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: that Bucky isn't going to get the goal line carries. 215 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: That's probably Sean Tucker's domain. Sure, Bucky's TD ceiling might 216 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: be a little cap. That's fine, but he's now getting 217 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: drafted as a low end RB two and the idea 218 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 3: that he's going to be a committee back because of 219 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 3: Kenny Gainwell. I mean, Bucky had a rough twenty twenty 220 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 3: five season with injuries of his own. In addition all 221 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 3: those O line injuries, he still averaged twenty point three 222 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 3: touches per game, and that was with Rashad White playing 223 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 3: all seventeen games for the Buccaneers. I think fading Bucky 224 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 3: off a disappointing year is a mistake. I'm still very 225 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 3: much in. 226 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 2: On him, okay, and that those are great points. 227 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: And Kenny Gainwell definitely I think surprised the entire fantasy community, 228 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: but he certainly was a league winner down the stretch. 229 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: My biggest issue, Derek is I just worry that maybe 230 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: the efficiency doesn't improve, right, because the thing about it 231 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: is like he only faced three point five percent of 232 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: carries with a stacked front. Right, that's the forty eighth 233 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: highest among running backs. I think without Mike Evans in 234 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: the picture, maybe defenses respect the offense going over the 235 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: top a little bit less and maybe we get more 236 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: stack carry fronts. And if he can only do that 237 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: with you know, three point five percent of stack carry fronts, 238 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: I worry that that three point four yards per carry 239 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,359 Speaker 1: or that point sixty seven fantasy points per opportunity sixty 240 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: second best just does not improve. 241 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 2: Derek. 242 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, my I've got it's a laundry list 243 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 4: of concerns with Bucky, like I see the ups side 244 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 4: case and diving through ball of Patty's like stage points 245 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 4: here is that I think the offensive line did play 246 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 4: a massive part in Bucky Irving's twenty twenty five season 247 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 4: because they were a shelvel of formselves twenty second in 248 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 4: yards before contact per attempt. So that definitely is is 249 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 4: a big, big issue. I think that bounces back my 250 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 4: questions about Bucky and I don't do this with all 251 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 4: the backs and stuff like that, because we've gone to 252 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 4: an NFL where that two hundred pounds to ten kind 253 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 4: of threshold isn't a detriment to volume and lead back 254 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 4: and all that kind of stuff like it used to 255 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 4: be My worry about Bucky is at this point, can 256 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 4: he stay healthy? Like last year footsprain, shoulder, ac joint stuff. 257 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 4: You rewind to twenty twenty four, he had hip, back, 258 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: toe and hamstring issues, and the way that the toe 259 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: was always talked about is, Oh, he's dealt with that 260 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 4: for all of college and stuff, So maybe that's kind 261 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 4: of like a problem for his entire career. Just kind 262 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 4: of like rewinding to all of that. So like I 263 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 4: worry at the size of the volume, is the worry 264 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 4: like with Bucky's staying healthy, because we have seen a 265 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 4: pretty banged up version over two seasons now of Bucky Irving. 266 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 4: Now you know, rookie season, he overcame that he was stellar. 267 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 4: He was freaking awesome. The other I guess kind of 268 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 4: pushback and again like this is Zach Robinson. He knows 269 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 4: the guys of like what he wants to do and 270 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff better than I do. But 271 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 4: part of the numbers if Zach Robinson is going to 272 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 4: be so heavily invested in outside zone like he was 273 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 4: in Atlanta, which could have been like a Michael Pennox thing, 274 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 4: and we could talk about pistol and all that kind 275 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 4: of stuff. Maybe that's different. But Bucky Irving, even in 276 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 4: the massive twenty twenty four season, his splits between zone 277 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 4: and man gap concepts were astronomical, Like on zone concepts 278 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 4: three point six yards per carry on man gap six 279 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 4: point five success rate forty eight point two percent versus 280 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 4: fifty seven point nine percent. So those splits notwithstanding, It's 281 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 4: just it's the totality of like all the small things 282 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 4: with Bucky Irving that I'm kind of worried about. And 283 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 4: the other thing about it is like, you don't bring 284 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 4: Kenny Gainwell in like on the contract to just not 285 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 4: use him. I think he's gonna play a role in 286 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 4: his backfield. And even if that is just the Rashad 287 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 4: White role of last year, in the year before, okay, well, 288 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 4: Rashad White was really freaking good in Fantasy with was 289 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 4: in the committee of Bucky Irving. What if he is 290 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 4: better Rashad White, what does that mean for Bucky Irving? 291 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 4: Like if he takes the Rashad White White role and 292 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 4: he's better than Rashad White, then is he going to 293 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 4: eat into more Bucky Irving's volume? Because again we're discussing Gamewell, Like, yeah, 294 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 4: for the totality of their careers. Yeah, Bucky Irving on 295 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 4: a per route basis has been better than Gamewell. But 296 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 4: I'm also not going to shy away from Gainwell, who 297 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 4: had two point one zero yards per route run last 298 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 4: year and he was fourteenth and explosive run rate and 299 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 4: miss tackle rate, so like, he was really freaking good 300 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 4: across a lot of metrics. So it's like if Bucky Irving, 301 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 4: say he does bounce back, but what if Kenneth Gainwell 302 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 4: can be an elevated version of Rashad White like offered 303 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 4: this offense in previous seasons. If that's the case, then 304 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 4: I think Bucky's gonna take a hit. Just the question 305 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 4: of how much. 306 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, average six points seven carries a game last year. 307 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: That's all I'm gonna say. 308 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 4: Like, well, if he's getting six targets a game, I 309 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 4: don't freaking care. If we're playing PPR man, we'll. 310 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: Keep it moving. 311 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: But just wanted to ask a couple of temperature checks 312 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: for both of you guys on Bucky. 313 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 2: Would you go Javonte or Bucky? 314 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 3: Oh it's Davonte, easy, It's gotta be Javonte, I think 315 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 3: just because of the automatic volume. 316 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Scataboo. 317 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 4: Scataboo over Bucky. 318 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 3: I'm that's close to close, I think right now, I've 319 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 3: got Bucky one spot behind. 320 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: Scatabo Okay, last one, Quinnshaw, Judkins Bucky easily. 321 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 4: I'll take Bucky. I've got an interesting one because I 322 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 4: don't feel like everybody's pricing in the downside of Travis. 323 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 4: A chan like Alvin Kamara is still there. He's gonna 324 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 4: play baths and downs like what are we missing? Why? Why? 325 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: I'll take a chan etm whatever you want to call him? 326 00:14:58,560 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: What about you? 327 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: Pat ilean bucket? 328 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: Okay? All right, So a good conversation there. 329 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about Mike Evans and what 330 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: the difference in him no longer being in Tampa Bay 331 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: might do for Bucky Irving Debro, you think maybe his 332 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: presence out there on the West coast could help one 333 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: of his running meets. 334 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 4: So if I just take the name away and I 335 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 4: tell you, amongst one hundred and nine qualifying wide receivers 336 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 4: last year, this wide receiver, this is where he ranked 337 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 4: twenty thirteen yards per route run third and route win 338 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 4: rate eighth. In separation score, he was twentieth in yards 339 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 4: per route run versus man coverage sixth and route win 340 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 4: rate versus man coverage, and he was also top three 341 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 4: in separation and route win rate versus own coverage. So 342 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 4: every single metric that we should care about, he was 343 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 4: either top twenty four or he was a lead at 344 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 4: And then people want to say, yeah, but I'm really 345 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 4: not into Ricky Piersall this year. Okay, somebody needs to 346 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 4: make me a really good case for it, because the 347 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 4: talent is there. If he could stay healthy, if he 348 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 4: doesn't get freaking shot, then I think he has his 349 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 4: breakout season this year. And de Jean Strippling like, no, 350 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 4: I'm not worried about him. Kyle Shanahan has historically What 351 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 4: has Kyle Shanahan done to Rocky's historically? Has he really 352 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 4: invested them or has he shoved them in the doghouse 353 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 4: and they got to earn their way up the depth chart? Okay, 354 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 4: everybody knows the answer to that. Christian Kirk couldn't even 355 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 4: earn targets in Houston last year and we don't even 356 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 4: know what version can he stay on the field right now? 357 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 4: And then we go back to the Mike Evans conversation. 358 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 4: I'm int on Mike Evans as well this year. But 359 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 4: can Mike Evans stay on the field, and if he doesn't, 360 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 4: if he misses any time, there's contingent upside for Ricky Pearsol. 361 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 4: But yet Ricky Piersaw, everybody's kind of out on him. 362 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 4: Oh and by the way, when he was in the 363 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 4: field last year, in four of the nine games that 364 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 4: he did play while dealing with a PCL's brain, he 365 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 4: was a top twenty four wide receiver in weekly scoring. 366 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, let's not worry about Ricky pearsoalv. You know, 367 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 4: let's not invest in him. Everybody's gotten burned too much. 368 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 4: And I think that that is the source of where 369 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 4: people were getting value on Rooky Piersol. As people have 370 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 4: been like I was in, I was in. I can't 371 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 4: be in. 372 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 2: Again, right juilty? Okay, Well, why Fitz. 373 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: Are you in at wide receiver forty four one O 374 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: two overall? Because I'm like Derek, I've kind of been 375 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: the guy for two years now pounding the table for 376 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: this guy and we just haven't seen it. Whether it's injuries, 377 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: whether it's the gun shot. One thing or another has 378 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: led this guy to not being a fancy difference maker 379 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: is twenty twenty sixth the year. 380 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 3: I think it will be just has to stay healthy, 381 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 3: the shooting in his rookie year, the PCL injury last year. 382 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 3: Like this, this guy's an ultra athletic former first round pick, 383 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 3: and we have seen the flashes. Fourteen catches for two 384 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 3: hundred and ten yards and two touchdowns in the forty 385 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 3: nine ers last two regular season games this rookie year 386 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 3: last year, over one hundred yards two of his first 387 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 3: three games. Then the PCL injury kind of slow once 388 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 3: he got back, but then end of the season flashes again. 389 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 3: Eleven catches one hundred eighty one yards in the last 390 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 3: two regular season games he played. So I know Mike 391 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: Evans is expected to be the target leader there, but 392 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 3: you know Evans has had trouble staying healthy himself recently. 393 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 3: So I do think there are going to be chances 394 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 3: for Pearsaw. I think he's a good player and I'm 395 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 3: very much in this year. 396 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 4: I also want to throw out there there were two 397 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 4: forty nine ers inside the top ten red zone targets 398 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 4: in the NFL. One of those guys is in there anymore, 399 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 4: Juwan Jennings. Mike Evans is going to get his who 400 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 4: else is taking the other spot? 401 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: We know, yeah, we know, like it's probably not going 402 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: to be George Kittle to start the year. And even 403 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: if it is, he's going to be coming back slow, 404 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: so definitely missing potentially one of their red zone targets 405 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: right off the rip there that maybe create some opportunity 406 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: for Ricky Piersoll. 407 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: Before we keep it moving, we've got two giveaways for you. 408 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: If you want a chance to win either a fifty 409 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: dollars Fantasy Pros shot code or a one year Betting 410 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: Pros Premium subscription. 411 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 2: This is your shot. 412 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: All you have to do right now, subscribe to the 413 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: Fancy Pros YouTube channel, drop a comment but any of 414 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: our videos, and that's it. 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And 434 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 3: last season opening game against the Chargers for the Chiefs, 435 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 3: Worthy runs a crossing route very early in that game, 436 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 3: collides with Travis Kelcey, dislocates his shoulder. Only missed a 437 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 3: couple of games, but it seemed like he wasn't himself 438 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 3: after he came back, and I think Andy Reid has 439 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 3: even said that the injury kept him from using Xavier 440 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 3: Worthy in some of the ways he would have liked 441 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: to once Worthy was back. So no question Rice should 442 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 3: be the Chiefs projected target leader, although we'll see whether 443 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: Rice manages to play a full seventeen game since he's 444 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 3: played twelve the last two seasons. Travis Kelcey is going 445 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 3: to get his share of targets two, but the Chiefs 446 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 3: didn't make any major additions at wide receiver otherwise, and 447 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 3: with Worthy's big playability, he doesn't need to catch eighty 448 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 3: balls to be a useful fantasy starter. So I'm kind 449 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 3: of back in. I think he's a good value this year. 450 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree with you. 451 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: He's someone really since early best balls, I've been targeting 452 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: Derek because even though it was a disappointing season, like 453 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: yards per game, catch rate, yards per target, all very 454 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: similar to that twenty twenty four run where Fitz mentioned 455 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: it after Rashid Rice went down, he was, you know, 456 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: arguably a league winner, at least league difference maker. I 457 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: just think they didn't know how to play him last year. 458 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: Maybe one more year a new play caller with Eric 459 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: b coming back in town changes things. 460 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 4: Maybe, Man, I don't know. I'm I was out Unworthy 461 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 4: last year. I'm out on him again this year. I 462 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 4: just really yeah, Like I don't see like the fact 463 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 4: that what's concerning about Worthy for me is like a separation. 464 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 4: Scores haven't been amazing. He's got win rates of nine 465 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 4: point two and ten point three percent over the last 466 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 4: two years. Like, I know injuries and the shoulder and 467 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 4: some of the things that like kind of hurt that, 468 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 4: but I'm like I struggle to see, like if for 469 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 4: she Rice is out there, Travis Kelsey is out there, 470 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 4: like Taekwan Thornton was their deep ball guy, Like, what 471 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 4: what is the role that Worthy plays in the Chiefs 472 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 4: offense this year? Like he doesn't have the size to 473 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 4: be the high volume like underneath route like savor she 474 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 4: Rice even misses time there. It's like like when he 475 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 4: had that stretch of games in twenty twenty four, it 476 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 4: was because they kind of shoved him into the Rashi 477 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 4: Rice roll right and then but then it's like do 478 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 4: we really want that for a player of his size. 479 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 4: I mean we just talked about like he got rocked 480 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 4: and hurt his shoulder and was never the same. It's 481 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 4: like that high volume role in the underneath over the middle, 482 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 4: in the yack role, Like do we really want him 483 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 4: in that role? Like is he gonna stay healthy in 484 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 4: a role like that? 485 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: Well, no clue. 486 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, So if Rice is out there, he's not playing 487 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 4: that role because that's what she Rice does well. Taekwan 488 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 4: Thornton was the deep threat and he's back. So I'm like, 489 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 4: I just struggle to see what is the role that 490 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 4: we were high on for Exavier Worthy. It's like, well, 491 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 4: he's not playing the deep role, he's not playing the 492 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 4: underneath role. He's not beating man coverage. That's That's where 493 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 4: I struggled to, like, Yeah, what is the role where 494 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 4: he becomes like a twenty percent target share? 495 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 3: Guy? 496 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 4: I just struggle to see it. 497 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: I guess, and Eric the enemy we trust at least 498 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: what fits and I think there, Derek, you won't quite 499 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: be in Pennsylvania next week, but that isn't stopping you 500 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: from potentially pain during some to some Eagles fans with 501 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: your next favorite drafty who certainly disappointed in tweeny twenty five. 502 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, he disappointed. I mean versus expectations ADP. It's Jalen 503 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 4: Hurts man, He's QB seven and basically like all ADP 504 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 4: that you look at right now, and I think we're 505 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 4: just getting a buying opportunity, Like the entire consensus is 506 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 4: all about, like Jalen Hurts is going into a new offense. 507 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 4: We don't know if he's going to adjust to it. 508 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 509 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 4: So how many times has Hurts defied expectations? Like we 510 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 4: go back to his collegiate career, he improved as a 511 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 4: pastor every single year in college. I could pull up 512 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 4: any amount of numbers that show this and display this. 513 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 4: He gets the run as a rookie, and then he 514 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 4: goes into a second season as a starter, and everybody's like, man, 515 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 4: we just don't know if this guy could even throw 516 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 4: the dang ball. We don't even know if he's going 517 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 4: to be the answer for the Philadelphia Eagles short and 518 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 4: long term. Oh wait, he goes out and he crushes, 519 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 4: He gets the massive contract, continues to crush. He goes 520 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 4: to a Super Bowl, plays lights out, they lose. He 521 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 4: goes to another super Bowl, plays lights out, and he 522 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 4: gets the damn MVP. And then at this point of 523 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 4: multiple years of bad offensive coordinator like Brian Johnson, there's 524 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 4: a reason you don't see him as an OC right 525 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 4: now in the NFL. Kevin Patulo, there's a reason you 526 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 4: don't see him as an OC in the NFL. I 527 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 4: know he's a past game coordinator, but he's not calling 528 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 4: plays for any freaking team. There are reasons for that 529 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 4: because they both both ran like bastardized versions of Shane 530 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 4: Steichen's offense previously, and they kept just kind of running 531 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 4: back the wheel because of like, oh well, Hurts likes 532 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 4: this and we got the guys to do it, so 533 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 4: why not? And they lived off was the plays. What 534 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 4: if yet again, Jalen Hurts takes another step in his 535 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 4: career because he can't access the middle of the field. 536 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 4: He's not like t tiny peewee size like Kyler Murray 537 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 4: and he can't actually see the middle of the field. 538 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 4: Now they have players that like Makayle Lemon could hit 539 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 4: the ground running. Eli Stowers is gonna be a chess 540 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 4: piece for them, Dallas Goddard is back, like everybody in 541 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 4: the market is playing like Jalen Hurts cannot bounce back. 542 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: What if? 543 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 4: All the risk? 544 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,479 Speaker 2: But here's the thing, what if it hits? 545 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 4: What if we see like and I'm not gonna put 546 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 4: Sean Mannon in the same type of air and tear 547 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 4: and area code as like a Liam Cohen because we 548 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 4: just don't know. But you don't see that type of trepidation, 549 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 4: like everybody's so worried about what Sean Mannon and Jalen 550 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 4: Hurts are going to do together. Do we see that 551 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 4: type of like hesitation and worry with the market with 552 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 4: Declan Doyle and Lamar Jackson. 553 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 2: Oh no, because he's coming from. 554 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 4: Ben Johnson and Da da da da. We're not gonna 555 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 4: sit and Joe Lamar Jackson is freaking QB two, although 556 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 4: he's coming off one of the worst stretches of his 557 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 4: entire career where he didn't even produce as a QB 558 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 4: one in Fantasy over multiple, multiple, multiple weeks. But it's like, oh, 559 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 4: but we're so worried about Jalen Hurts, but we have 560 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 4: no questions about Lamar Jackson. That's where it's like, fine, 561 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 4: I'll buy the dip on Jalen Hurts all freaking day. 562 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 4: The rushing bounces back and we see the best quarterback 563 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 4: play out of Jalen Hurts and a brand new offense 564 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 4: that is better for this version in the NFL. 565 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I'm in fitz. 566 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: I've been trying to not draft any quarterbacks early, but 567 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts continues to fall to me in my draft, 568 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: so I have a lot of exposure to him right now. 569 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: That being said, though, maybe things are a little clunky 570 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: to be in the season with the new offensive coordinator overall, 571 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: though I am in here at sixty overall in the 572 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: ECRQB six. 573 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: What about yourself. 574 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 3: The last few years, we've seen people really aggressively draft Hurts. Yeah, 575 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 3: I'm not really in favor of aggressively drafting Hurts, but 576 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 3: if he is falling and you are going to get 577 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 3: a discount, which we do see sometimes this year in drafts, 578 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 3: I'm okay with it. I mean, he's just got to 579 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 3: get the rushing numbers back up after being over six 580 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 3: hundred rushing yards the previous two seasons and last year 581 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 3: down at four twenty one a run of double digit 582 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 3: rushing touchdowns. Then last year he's at eight. So that 583 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 3: kind of torpedoed it a little because the passing numbers 584 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 3: weren't special, and I don't think we're ever going to 585 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 3: get special passing numbers out of Jalen Hurts. He's just 586 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 3: not that guy. Competent passer, but I don't think they 587 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 3: want him to be a high volume passer. He's just 588 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 3: not going to run a Deck Prescott type of show 589 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 3: in Philadelphia. So I'm okay with it, and you know, 590 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 3: hopefully more tush pushes if you draft jail and Hurts, 591 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 3: and fewer Dallas Goddard shovel passes near the goal line. 592 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 3: Because Goddard had six of those six times he scored 593 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 3: on shovel passes inside at the five yard line are 594 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 3: closer last year. That kind of replaced the tush push 595 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 3: in someone. 596 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah and Fitz round us out here. You often I 597 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: feel like late night the expo at George's, when the 598 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: bar gets a little smoky, I see you over in 599 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: the corner, just like absolutely going to bat for a 600 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: different tight end every single year. You find yourselves in 601 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: these types of conversations. So who's the big man you're 602 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: going to battle for this season? 603 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 3: Well, I mean I want Brock Powers or Colston Loveland. 604 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 3: But if I punt tight end, which there's a chance 605 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 3: I might like, it's gonna be Mark Andrews. And there 606 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: is a chance Mark Andrews is cooked. We should probably 607 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 3: acknowledge that his numbers last year are bad. Forty eight catches, 608 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 3: four hundred and twenty two yards, five touchdowns, eight point 609 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 3: eight yards per catch, six point zero yards per target, 610 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 3: one point two to three yards perut run. Some really 611 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 3: rough numbers, But we know The Ravens passing game had 612 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 3: a lot of problems last year with Lamar Jackson missing 613 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 3: time and not being fully healthy for a lot of 614 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,479 Speaker 3: the games he played. Ravens still don't look great at 615 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 3: wide receiver after z A Flowers, they still Overshot Bateman. 616 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 3: They drafted Elijah Surratt and Jacoby Lane. None of those 617 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 3: guys are really expected to be prominent target earners. Now 618 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 3: we don't know exactly what the Ravens offense is going 619 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 3: to look like with Declan Doyle as the new play caller, 620 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 3: but in Lamar Jackson seven full seasons as the starter. 621 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 3: Here's where the Ravens tight ends of ranked in percentage 622 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 3: of team targets first, fifth, first, first, tenth, fourth and fourth. 623 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 3: And now Isaiah likely is gone again, this is going 624 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 3: to get the lion's share of those tight end targets. 625 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 3: The Ravens signed Durham smythe he's a blocker. They drafted 626 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 3: Matthew Hibner. He's intriguing, but his college stats at SMU 627 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 3: weren't all that exciting. I mean, andrews adp is tight 628 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 3: end fourteen. I think he's the best pun option at 629 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 3: tight end and if it turns out he's washed, you 630 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 3: just cut him early in the season, pick up a 631 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 3: hot tight end on waivers. But if Andrews isn't washed, 632 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 3: he might have sneaky mid range tight end one upside 633 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 3: given the track record he has in the tight end 634 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 3: production we've seen in Baltimore during the Lamar Jackson era. 635 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: Hard to argue with that. 636 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 4: Derek it is Man and I wrote up Mark Andrews 637 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 4: I'm a perfect draft article, and I'm with Fitzy on that, 638 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 4: Like you're not paying for the downside of Mark Andrews 639 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 4: where he's going in drafts, Like what you're getting is 640 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 4: just a free swing at. 641 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 2: Upside, like like he had been previously. Yeah. 642 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's like if, yeah, if he is over 643 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 4: the age curve and all this stuff has caught up 644 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 4: to him, then fine, but you're not paying for any 645 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 4: of that. Like and the thing that fits he kind 646 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 4: of brings up too, is that like, look, Isaiah Likely's gone, 647 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 4: Like I just want to see Mark Andrews the full 648 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 4: time player again. He was twenty second in route share 649 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 4: last year, Like he only had a route on sixty 650 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 4: two point nine per dropbacks, right, like that number, Like 651 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 4: we have to like believe like that number comes up 652 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 4: this year, it's just a question of how much. But 653 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 4: if he gets back into that like eighty percent range, again, 654 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 4: we always talk about volume as king and people like well, 655 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 4: volume in targets and stuff like that. Routes too, Like 656 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 4: Trey McBride. Another reason like why he just crushed and 657 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 4: decimated everybody's because the dude ran one hundred and sixty 658 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 4: more routes than everybody else amongst tight ends last year. 659 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 4: So if Andrews gets back to being a full time player, 660 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 4: then I think he definitely can. And if you look 661 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 4: at the deeper metrics with Andrews, so I was pulling 662 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 4: this up as Patty was talking. Amongst forty qualifying tight ends, 663 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 4: Andrews eleventh and separation score sixth and route win rate, 664 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 4: those paint the pretty nice picture that Mark Andrews is 665 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 4: not really dust. 666 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: Wow, he gotta love it. 667 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: The old veterans hanging on just like us folks, And 668 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us right here on this 669 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: episode of the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Football podcast, Let's go 670 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: down below in the comments your favorite bounce back candidates 671 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: that you're drafting at a discount this year, and also 672 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: be sure give this view a thumbs up if you 673 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: enjoyed it and don't forget. 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