1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Hi again, everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast, the like one of us edition. 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: As I talk to the delightful k Adams about her 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: connection to Bengals fans, Dave Lapham joins me to review 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: Wednesday's joint practice with the Packers, and finally, I'll chat 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: with an undrafted wide receiver from just up the road 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: at Miami University who will take the field for the 8 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: first time in an NFL game on Friday night, Mac Hippenhammer. 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you by Alta Fiber, 10 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: future proof fiber Internet capable of delivering multi gigabit speeds 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 1: designed to take your home, business, and community to a 12 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: new level. 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I don't know who 19 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: said it first, but I have embraced the motto that 20 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm playing for the tie. 21 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: Well. 22 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 1: Over the years, I've tried just about every running shoe 23 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: on the market, and recently I purchased my first pair 24 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: of Hokahs. Now here's the catch. I don't use them 25 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: for running, but I love them for walking and standing around. 26 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: When my first guest on this podcast, Ky Adams, saw 27 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: me wearing a pair, she raved about them as well 28 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: and used the term marshmallow like to describe the cushioning. 29 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: So if you have a job that requires you to 30 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: be on your feet for long periods of time, Hokahs 31 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: are comfortable, cushioned, and light weight. Now let's get to 32 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: Kay Adams, who visited training camp this week for a 33 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: live edition of her TV show Up and Atoms, which 34 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: airs weekdays at eleven am on fan Duel TV. If 35 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: you don't get that channel, you can find a ton 36 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: of clips from the show on YouTube. After Ka interviewed 37 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: players and coaches on Monday, she sat down with me 38 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: for a one on one conversation. All Right, Kay, you 39 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: didn't grow up in Cincinnati. From Chicago. You don't live 40 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. I live in LA But Bengals fans think 41 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: that you're one of us. Yeah, what's the origin story? 42 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: How did that happen? 43 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: I mean, I lived in New York for over a 44 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 3: decade and between there's also but I saw something in 45 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: this team that made a lot of sense to start 46 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 3: rooting for them. When everyone was excited about Ben Roethlisberger's 47 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: last year as a Steeler, and everyone was talking up 48 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 3: Lamar and everyone was mentioning the Bills and every other 49 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: team in the AFC except for the Bengals. It just 50 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 3: didn't make sense to me. With Joe Burrow following the injury, 51 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 3: knowing what he was on the college level, a champion, 52 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 3: a sort of a strange cat who I still haven't 53 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: met and want to get to know. The talent was there, 54 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 3: Who's bringing his wide receiver of course over from LSU. 55 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 4: It made too much sense. 56 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, nobody on the national 57 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: level ever spoke about the Bengals for the longest time 58 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: unless it was something that was critical, And this fan 59 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 3: base sort of pulled me in, so I you know, 60 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 3: it's not that I was driving here, it was that 61 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: I was being magnetically pulled by this amazing fan base 62 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: that really won me over because they weren't saying we 63 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 3: deserve it, and they weren't expecting the. 64 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 4: Sky to fall. 65 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 3: And Jets fans, over the years, it's mostly enjoying the 66 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: present moment as it was happening, and that's what I 67 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 3: think willed them to the Super Bowl that year that 68 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 3: I said they'd go deep into the playoffs. 69 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: Bengals fans feel like they don't get enough respect from 70 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: the national media. Are they right? 71 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: Look at last year, ninety percent of sports media picked 72 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: the Bills to win. A lot of strange things happened 73 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 3: last year between the Bills and the Bengals, but they 74 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: came out on top. And you know, I think the 75 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: Bengals last year, from the inside of locker room, were 76 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: growing a little bit frustrated, but also feeling themselves, which 77 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: I don't like. I'm glad that borrowad is over. 78 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 4: No one's talking about it. I haven't heard the words 79 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 4: while I've been here. 80 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: I haven't seen it in the media, And it seems 81 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 3: like a lot of the teams in the AFC are 82 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: now joined against a common foe named the Jets, who 83 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: are out of nowhere getting all of the hype. Of course, 84 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: they're stacked and they're built to go to the Super Bowl. 85 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: But I think you know those comments that coach Sean 86 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: Payton made as the head coach of the Broncos, Now 87 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 3: that is a sentiment that I think is echoing and 88 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: permeating through the AFC. 89 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 4: What are the Jets? Give me a break? 90 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: And I think it allows teams like the Bills, like 91 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: the Bengals, like the Ravens, your division foe, to sort 92 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 3: of get in the lab work on what needs to 93 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 3: be worked on. And I'll say that just being here 94 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 3: today and talking to the DJ readers of the world, 95 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: Sam Hubbard, it's business as as usual. Jamar Ches, young player, 96 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 3: just twenty three. But I keep asking what's unique about 97 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 3: this camp? After facing so much adversity after a Super 98 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 3: Bowl loss. Nobody seems to have the thing where they're 99 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: cursed or there. We can't get there. We're not going 100 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 3: to cash in on this. Everyone's really positive and doing 101 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 3: their own work to be better as a whole. 102 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: So anytime you post something on social media that's Bengals related, 103 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: the response from the fan base is unbelievable. How would 104 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: you describe that exchange you have? 105 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: Would it's just the best fan base. I don't know 106 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 3: how else to describe it. I think there's other fan 107 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 3: bases that have been through it. The Vikings, my hometown 108 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: Bears fans are you know, every time I've post something 109 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 3: nice about the Bengals, I get the opposite end too 110 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 3: from everybody in Chicago, and I'm excited for them. But 111 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 3: there's something special about this squad. I love what Elizabeth 112 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 3: Blackburn has done. She inspires me, so she sort of 113 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 3: pulls me in as far as my interest and my 114 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: attractiveness to the organization and the culture change that she 115 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: sort of evolutionized, I'd say over the past several seasons 116 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 3: to make it even better experience for the fans. You 117 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 3: just love to see it because it's why I love 118 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 3: the NFL, and the blink of a hat, you could 119 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 3: have an NFL team go from nothing to the Super Bowl, 120 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 3: or go from being hopeless to making a twenty seventeen 121 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 3: eight championship run like the Jaguars. 122 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 4: Di it. It can happen. 123 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: It takes a lot of work behind the scenes, but 124 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: I will always root for it when that happens. 125 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: That was twenty twenty one for the Bengal Yeah, four 126 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: wins the year before Super Bowl in twenty twenty one, 127 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: you were the ruler of the jungle for one of 128 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: the games that year, and you dove in head first. 129 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: You're hanging out at Bengal Jim's tailgate, You're having cocktails 130 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: with Bengals fans before the game. What about that experience? 131 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 4: What do I remember? 132 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 133 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: I mean do you remember? I mean way beyond what 134 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: you expected. 135 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: It was as welcoming as the social media response is. 136 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: I think there's a little bit of no one talked 137 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 3: about us, but there was reasons to be talked about, 138 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: which is the most frustrating thing. Wait, we have a 139 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 3: great quarterback. Wait, we have really dynamic receiving options. We 140 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: have a coach that we believe in, Zach Taylor, coach 141 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: lou This is the sixth best defense in total scoring 142 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 3: last year, and nobody talks about it. It's on heralded now. 143 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: Seventy five percent of that secondary has been overhauled. There's 144 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 3: a lot of changes, and there are certainly question marks, 145 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: but just the lack of being talked about motivates the team. 146 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 3: I hope the Bengals stay in that mindset and as 147 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 3: far as this season is again nationally, I don't think 148 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 3: many people are talking about what this team can do. 149 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: How did you refer to Burrow as an interesting cat? 150 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: Was that your expression? 151 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 4: I've ready met him. 152 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 3: I'm just going to keep saying I've never met I've 153 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: met his family members, I've met his lovely girlfriend, I've 154 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: met all sorts of people near and dear to him, 155 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: his favorite wide receiver from back in college. Of course, 156 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: he's a bit of a mystery. He's so good at 157 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: keeping things separate. It is a wild thing for him 158 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: to play in the super Bowl, where you know, I'm 159 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 3: having Sam Hubber tell me like jay Z was right there, 160 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: and Justin Bieber was right there, but Joe's like, I 161 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 3: don't care. He truly is the coolest, most interesting cat around. 162 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: So when you see the footage of him hopping on 163 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: one foot on day two of training camp, what went 164 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: through your brain. 165 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: I was on the phone with my producer Matthew Hamilton 166 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: when we were lively going through the all of the 167 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 3: drama of it, and we of course noticed he had 168 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: a sleeve on his caps like, why is that they're 169 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 3: wise that there? 170 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 4: Should they put them out here? Whyse? 171 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: And it just seems to me a strange blessing in disguise. 172 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: I thought what I was watching over and over again, 173 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: is him put a little weight on that foot when 174 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: he was hopping onto the cart and I right away said, okay, 175 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 3: I like this. And then to hear things like al 176 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: Jamar Chase come out and say get your rest, to 177 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: hear the confidence of this locker room, even after dealing 178 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: with so much adversity and saying we've got you. I 179 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: sort of think Joe at this point, after missing a 180 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: rookie season, after dealing with injuries that have kept him 181 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 3: sideline at times, that he wanted to build more chemistry. 182 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 4: With his guys out there. 183 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: He's probably a really hard player to get off the 184 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 3: field and stay off the field. I'm sure you know 185 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: people have to protect him from coming back too early. 186 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: I think those were the words that Jamar Chase was 187 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 3: trying to, you know, to tell everybody. 188 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 4: We've got you. 189 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 3: You get better through the Browns, through the Ravens, through 190 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 3: Monday night football with the Rams, We've got you. 191 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: So Chris collins Worth on your show, which the Bengals 192 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl, and one of the biggest 193 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: reasons why was Burrow finally has a healthy training camp. 194 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: He can get in all those reps that he hasn't 195 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: been able to get. It's almost almost felt like a 196 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: little bit of a jinx. 197 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 4: He's a curse. It's the Chris Collinsworth curse. He doesn't say. 198 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: I will say this about Chris Collinsworth. I think when 199 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 3: you are from the team and then you are on 200 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: something like Sunday Night Football, you almost talk about the 201 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: other teams a little more to you know. I'm from Chicago, 202 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: and I think that's why Bears fans think I hate them, 203 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 3: because I don't talk about them very much because I'm 204 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: from there, and I you know, I don't want to 205 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 3: make any sort of perception or appearance that I favor them, 206 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 3: or that I know them even better than other teams 207 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 3: or whatever. So I think Chris collins is a bit 208 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: of a victim of that, a little bit of him 209 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 3: trying to be objective and maybe over correcting. 210 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 4: That in some way. 211 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: But I had no idea that Bengals fans felt this 212 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 3: way about Chris. And then he came on my show 213 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: and he cursed everything. Collins Worthworth pff around here, I mean, 214 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: drive down there. I'll throw Greater's ice cream raspberry snowballs 215 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: at the office. 216 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: Now, now it sounds like It's kind of like coaching 217 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: your kid in youth sports. You know you don't want 218 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: to favor your own kid, right, that's similar. 219 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 3: There's something like that going on. But I mean, Chris 220 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 3: had a great point. If you look at the numbers, 221 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 3: and they do bear out, they're not super fun if 222 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 3: you're a Bengals fan to see Joe Burrow the first 223 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 3: four weeks, first eight weeks of the season versus the 224 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 3: last half has hotter last halfs his numbers really all 225 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 3: across the board. I wouldn't say slow starts, but certainly takes. 226 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 4: A bit of a warm up period. 227 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 3: That could be for a ton of reasons, of course, 228 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 3: but is it chemistry. Would it hurt for him to 229 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 3: be out there right now? No, of course not. But 230 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 3: it's also not the worst thing that Trevor Simeon's getting 231 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 3: some getting some love and refs out there, and he's 232 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: one of the better backups. 233 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: I think everybody loves Joe Burrow for obvious reasons. Chase 234 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: Higgins mix and you know, they're great star players on 235 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: this team. But you referenced some of the guys that 236 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: you talked to while you were here for training camp. 237 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: Is there a Bengal or a couple of Bengals that 238 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: you think this guy deserves a lot more attention then 239 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: he gets. 240 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 3: I'm really excited about the offensive line. I think maybe 241 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 3: I think it's obviously a huge question mark, but we're 242 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: seeing Jonah, who could have been more disgruntled than he 243 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 3: was for a moment, now saying all right, I'm good, 244 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 3: I'm fine. Orlando Brown's here, a very versatile player who 245 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 3: feels very comfortable in position that he's in, in a 246 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 3: veteran with championship pedigree coming into the building, and I 247 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 3: think that offensive line should be much improved. I actually 248 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 3: think it's the best one that Joe Burrow's played with, 249 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: and so that's always the low hanging fruit for poking 250 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 3: at this team. You're gonna hurt Joe Burrow, You're gonna 251 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 3: let him get hit and sacked. I think it should 252 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 3: be stronger out the gates, and it's been in previous years. 253 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: That should help all around. Joe Mixon. I think top 254 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 3: five year, no question, it should be available for him 255 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 3: to go out there and get that. And I just 256 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 3: think that one of the things that's flying under the 257 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: radar is that you know there's always going to be 258 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 3: salary cap issues on any team, especially a championship caliber team, 259 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 3: and trying to keep everybody in the building. 260 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 4: It's not possible. Dan. So the fact that. 261 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 3: Even if the t Higgins thing doesn't work out, just 262 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 3: the fact that he is showing up. That says a 263 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 3: lot about Joe. It says a lot about everybody in 264 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: the locker room. It says a lot about Zach Taylor. 265 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 3: And you know, guys like Jamar Chase are watching that. 266 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: Jamar Chase is seeing, Hey, I'm going to deal with 267 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 3: that next year. I'm going to deal with my business. 268 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: And I'm seeing how a guy like Tea sort of 269 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: handles that. You have the same thing. Obviously they paid 270 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 3: Logan Wilson. I loved seeing Tea say congratulations, I'm happy 271 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 3: for you, fully knowing we don't know what's ahead, we 272 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 3: don't know what the future is. So them being able 273 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: to as an organization sort of handle what. 274 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 4: Could be. 275 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 3: Rapid and wide ranging disgruntlement among these players like a Jonah, 276 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 3: it sort of gets nipped in the butt, and that 277 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 3: is teamwork that takes everybody. 278 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: So if the Bengals are the team to beat in 279 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: the AFC North, who do you think is their biggest 280 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: competition this year Baltimore, Cleveland or Pittsburgh. 281 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 3: Collinsworth was really selling me on Cleveland, but I don't 282 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: talk about Cleveland. So I'm going to say the Ravens 283 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 3: their Week two opponent, because you can't deny it. They 284 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 3: build themselves little super team. I think if the world 285 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: wasn't enamored and solely focused on the Jets, the Ravens 286 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 3: would be the story of the off season. Wow, who else? 287 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: What would it be if you took the Jets stand 288 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 3: off the table? What's the story of the NFL right now? 289 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 3: It's not on the homes. They're good, they're boring, they're set. Lah. 290 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 4: It's the Ravens. 291 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 3: It's them bringing an Odell. Odell is always a headlining act. 292 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 3: All of a sudden, he's not only because Aaron now 293 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 3: is in the AFC. 294 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 4: And in New York. 295 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: He said in an interview on Monday that had he 296 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: stayed healthy in that Super Bowl two years ago, the 297 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: Rams would have won forty two seventeen. Really, we've had 298 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: fifteen catches for two hundred and fifty yards. That was 299 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: his quote. 300 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: See, but I didn't even see me. I didn't even 301 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 3: see that because they're really flying. They really are flying 302 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: under the radar and they're trying to build and they've 303 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 3: got a couple of great running backs as well. I mean, 304 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 3: Lamar has to stay healthy, but I think he's got 305 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 3: a little something to prove. And they went through They 306 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 3: just had a bizarre year last year. They always have 307 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 3: weird injuries that keep them sidelined, but there was this 308 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: some soullessness going on. There were just weird things energetically 309 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 3: that you were seeing on the sideline harbor, and you 310 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 3: know at halftime that I forget which game it was 311 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 3: Hamilton that they sort of were. Their vibe was so 312 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 3: off the Ravens. I forget which game it was, but 313 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 3: you could just tell this is not the team that 314 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 3: you're used to. So if they can get back, I 315 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 3: would say they're that definitely the toughest competition. 316 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 4: Don't sleep on the. 317 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: Steelers though, either They're never going to lose a season, 318 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: and I think they're on the way up. They and 319 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 3: they down the stretch one a ton of games, so 320 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 3: if they pick up where they left off, you can't 321 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: sleep on Talmlant. 322 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 4: It's a gauntlet of a division, all right. 323 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: Wild Card topics. Do you have any hidden talents. 324 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 4: Oh man, I know Morse code really? 325 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: Yes, awesome. 326 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 4: That's so weird. 327 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: My grandmother in Poland made me learn it in case 328 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 3: the Soviets came. 329 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 4: Back and took over Poland and I was sucking to 330 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 4: forest somewhere. I literally know Morse code. 331 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is true. 332 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 3: I haven't exercised that ever, but if I'm ever in 333 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 3: a bad spot, I'm surviving the zombie apocalypse, all right. 334 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: So some people can do sos, but you're you're well 335 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: beyond that. 336 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: Correct. 337 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Who is your all time favorite athlete in 338 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: any sport? And why, oh my. 339 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: Gosh, in any sport, I would say, I'm just going 340 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 3: to go. The first game that popped in my head 341 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: was Matt Fote. I think he's why I fell in 342 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 3: love with the NFL, because there was so little to 343 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: root for and he was so fun and electric and 344 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 3: I was on my couch jumping up and down when 345 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: he Obviously Devin Hester too, but I got more of 346 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 3: Matt Forte, and he was so involved in changing the 347 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 3: complexion of what the whole offense looked in any game 348 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 3: that he played. So Matt Forte off the field, on 349 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 3: the field was sort of the person who got me 350 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: into loving the NFL on the level that I did. 351 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: The greatest former two lane play NFL history cam sample 352 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: from very good. 353 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 4: We got a shout out about Camp samp. 354 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 3: I think Sam Hubbard today gave him a really nice 355 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 3: shout out for how he's looked at camps. We're excited 356 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 3: to see what sample looks like in the NFL. 357 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: Having a very good camp. 358 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 4: All right. 359 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: Final one, If you could meet anybody in history, I 360 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: hate these questions athlete entertainer. Who would that person be? Mine? 361 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: Is Steve Martin? 362 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 4: By the way, is it really we were. 363 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 3: Just talking about Steve Marron. Stay tuned, you'll know why 364 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: we were talking about Steve Martin. Bengals fans just a 365 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 3: couple of days. Julia Louis Dreyfuss I would say loved Seinfeld. 366 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 4: I think she's brilliant. 367 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 3: She's so understated and makes such a big impact in 368 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: the community around her, and. 369 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 4: I just love her. I would love it. 370 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 3: I'd get nervous if I met her. I've met a 371 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 3: lot of people and I've definitely heard parts of it, 372 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 3: but I think I'd get nervous to meet her. 373 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, I'd be a babbling idiot. Around Steve Martin. 374 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's okay. 375 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 3: People want to meet like Taylor Swift. I've met her. 376 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 3: She's lovely, but there was no freak out about it. 377 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: I think. 378 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 3: I changed my answer. Colleene Bennis, get out of here, 379 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow. 380 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 4: I have to meet Joe Burrow. What's it going to 381 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 4: take Dan, he's one room away. 382 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: Let's you know, let's see if we can get him 383 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: to drop. 384 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, him to heal up. That's what I keep saying. 385 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: They won't let me talk to him, but I keep saying, 386 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,239 Speaker 3: I'm going to let him. I'm gonna let him heal up. 387 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 3: That's my That was my pr spintch like he wants 388 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 3: to talk to me, but I said, you need to. 389 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 3: We need to be on ice buddy, get back on 390 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 3: the training table. 391 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: We're so happy to have you back in Cincinnati. You 392 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: are my wife's favorite NFL broadcaster. Myself included your way above. 393 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 2: Damn. 394 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: I will get you your forehead signed bobblehead. 395 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 3: You promised this, okay, And you said I heard graters 396 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 3: called you this morning. 397 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: They reached out to me to see if I could 398 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: smuggle you in some ice cream. 399 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 4: Isn't that hard? 400 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: Things? 401 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 4: I will say this. 402 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 3: I was here for my ruler of the Jungle game 403 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: and this is all business here at training camp. It 404 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 3: is all hands on deck. Everyone's super focused and it's 405 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 3: great to see and it's great to see you. 406 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 4: Dan, you too, and tell your wife I love her. 407 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: And say hi, you got it. Some TV personalities are 408 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: inherently likable. There's a hard to define it factor that 409 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: just jumps off the screen. Kay Adams has it. The 410 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth podcast is brought to you by Bengals Picks 411 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: and Ultimate Bengals. They're free to play with tickets inside, 412 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: merchandise up for grabs. Find both inside the Bengals app 413 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: and by Kettering Health, the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. 414 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: With more than one hundred and twenty care facilities and 415 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred care providers, Kettering Health is committed to guiding 416 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: you to your best health. Visit ketteringhealth dot org to 417 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: learn more. Last year, the Bengals held two joint practices 418 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: with the La Rams before their final preseason game. The 419 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,479 Speaker 1: first one went well. The second one featured the Aaron 420 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: Donald hillmet swinging incident. Bengals safety Nick Scott was with 421 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: the Rams last year. 422 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 2: It was pretty wild. 423 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 5: I mean, I to this day, I joke around like 424 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 5: I don't know who the guy or girl was that 425 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 5: sat down and said, hey, let's have a Super Bowl 426 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 5: rematch three months after it happened, and hopefully everything comes 427 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 5: out peaceful. We kind of knew that gonna happen. 428 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: The Bengals and Packers did not meet in the Super 429 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: Bowl last year, but sure enough, tempers flared when they 430 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: held their joint practice on Wednesday. First, Packers left guard 431 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: Elton Jenkins got into it with Jermaine Pratt and b 432 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: J Hill, leading to a massive scrum. Later, Jenkins and 433 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: DJ Readers squared off and the Packers pulled their offensive 434 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: linemen out of practice. Here's Sam Hubbard on the brew. 435 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 6: Haha, Yeah, it happened, So I don't think we need 436 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 6: to make a big deal out of it. We're professionals 437 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 6: and everybody's very competitive, and sometimes it happens. 438 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: Is it almost something you expect when two teams get 439 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: together and when they eat like this, You guys haven't 440 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: seen another team yet. 441 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's also kind of fun at units each side. 442 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 6: You know, you rally with your teammates and come back 443 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 6: in the locker room and you're a united front going 444 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 6: against another jersey for the first time of the year. 445 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 6: It's not all bad as long as everyone's you know, 446 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 6: no need to throw a punch to helm and break 447 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 6: your hand or something like that. 448 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: We don't want to be smarter than that, but it's football. 449 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: There was no clear winner in the skirmish, but both 450 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: defenses came out on top, and wednesday's practice Reider blew 451 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: up the Packers running game. Trey Hendrickson had a sack, 452 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: came off the field for a few snaps, and then 453 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: immediately had another sack after returning, and Mike Helton had 454 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: the only takeaway for either side as he jumped around 455 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: the red zone and likely would have had a long 456 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: pick six. When asked about the Bengals defense, head coach 457 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor invented a new word, veterany. 458 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 7: You know, it's they're just I think probably the underrated 459 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 7: portion of our defense is how smart they are. They 460 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 7: can make adjustments at the drop of a hat because 461 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,479 Speaker 7: they've played together for so many years. They're all so smart. 462 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 7: It's really frustrating as a play calling often sometimes when 463 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 7: you practice against the same team over and over and 464 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 7: over and they do such a good job in so 465 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 7: many areas, and they're so smart, and we feel like 466 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 7: we have the same thing on offense. We feel like 467 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 7: we've got a really smart football team. But you asked 468 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 7: specifically about the defense, and that's what stands. Not only 469 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 7: are they talented, and not only do they have great 470 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 7: chemistry together and they understand what Lou and the position 471 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 7: coaches want from them, but they are all really smart. 472 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 7: I mean, really, there's great players in this league that 473 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 7: you know, maybe maybe don't have both the talent, and 474 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 7: I don't know, I can't speak to anybody specifically, but 475 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 7: I know our guys are really really football smart. 476 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: As for the Bengals offense, it's sputtered against Green Bay's 477 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: D with Trevor Simmy and Jake Browning alternating at quarterback. 478 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: Of course, things likely would have been better if Joe 479 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: Burrow were healthy and he was in attendance On Wednesday, 480 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: as Joe attended practice for the first time since injuring 481 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: his calf thirteen days earlier. Here's offensive coordinator Brian Callahan. 482 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 8: We had talked about it this morning, him coming out 483 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 8: if he felt like it, and he decided he wanted to. 484 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 8: So I looked over there and he was standing right 485 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 8: next to me. 486 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: He was great. 487 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 8: It's good to have him. 488 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 2: What's the biggest impact of having Joe out there watching? 489 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,239 Speaker 8: It's always nice to have his presence out there, you know. 490 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 8: I think it's good for guys to see him out. 491 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 8: I mean, he's been rehabbing quite a bit. He's doing 492 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 8: a good job, and they have him out at practice 493 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 8: is always beneficial. Guys like seeing him too, you know. 494 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 8: I think he's everybody excited to have him out standing 495 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 8: around watching. 496 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: So I'm sure this process has been hard for him 497 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: just being out. Are generally think this practice in particular 498 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: is one he would want it to be out for. 499 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 8: Oh, he's an elite competitor, so any chance he gets 500 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 8: to go against somebody else, Yeah, he you know, I'm 501 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 8: sure it's frustrating for him the standing and have to watch, 502 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 8: but that's what it is, and you know he's going 503 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 8: to have to swallow that frustration and he'll be ready 504 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 8: for when it's time to be ready. 505 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: The hope remains that Joe will be ready for the 506 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: season opener at Cleveland, which is almost exactly one month away. 507 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: I spoke to Dave Lapham after the joint practice and 508 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: we started with the struggles that the Bengals had on offense. 509 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 9: The Packers, I think are a pretty good defensive unit. 510 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 9: They ran significant blitz packages for this stage of training camp, 511 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 9: very significant really, but I don't think it was any 512 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 9: surprise to the coaches. But there were some assignmenters. I 513 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 9: saw some free runners made things difficult in the quarterback. 514 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 9: I mean, the quarterbacks are having all they can handle 515 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 9: just you know, trying to get the ball to the 516 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 9: right spots at the right time, and when there's free 517 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 9: runners in their face, I mean, it's it's very frustrating 518 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 9: probably to try to execute. Obviously, and as a play caller, 519 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 9: I'm sure Brian Callahan had his moments where it's like, mayah, 520 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 9: this is like swimming up hill. They get they got 521 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 9: humbled a little bit offensively and more than a little 522 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 9: bit really. I mean, I think Green Bay, obviously, you know, 523 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 9: ruled the day as far as making it tough for 524 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 9: the Bengals to move the football. So that's not always bad, 525 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 9: you know, it's it's particularly early in camp to get 526 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 9: to get humbled and realize that you get miles to 527 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 9: go before you rest, get back to the drawing board 528 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 9: and get get things corrected. But again we've talked about 529 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 9: it more than once. Number nine puts the ball in 530 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 9: spots that not many do. That's what makes him a 531 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 9: top ten should have been top five player in the NFL, 532 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 9: has voted on by the players. But when when he 533 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 9: when he's operating and and uh, you know, deciphering getting 534 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 9: the ball out and putting it in very very good spots. 535 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 9: It's a it's a much different dynamic. I mean is 536 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 9: the key is in the National Football League especially, but 537 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 9: any level of quarterback put the ball where your receiver 538 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 9: can turn into a running back and make yards have 539 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 9: to catch instead of making them stop or reach behind 540 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 9: or whatever the case may be, and you don't have 541 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 9: to restart. That's it's a totally different dynamics. So there's 542 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 9: there's a lot of things. Protection for the quarterback has 543 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 9: to be, you know, really good. You got to pick 544 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 9: up the blitzers, you got to solidify the pocket. I thought, 545 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 9: defensively in the red zone, Jordan Love can spin it, 546 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 9: and he can spin it from he drops two different 547 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 9: angles to throw the football. I thought accuracy might have 548 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 9: been a little bit of his issue, you know, coming 549 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 9: out not the most accurate, but you look pretty pretty 550 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 9: accurate today. And he threw the ball through the ball 551 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 9: pretty well. He can spin it. He's got some RPMs, 552 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 9: I mean first round pick. But I thought defensively, particularly 553 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 9: when it was the move at drill, neither team you 554 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 9: don't get any points, you know, red zone seven on 555 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 9: seven red zone, Packers had a little bit better success 556 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 9: than the Bengals did in that regard. Overall, I'd say 557 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 9: the Packers, you know, won the day, but it wasn't. 558 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 9: It wasn't a total domination, a total like you know, 559 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 9: stick ahead in the sand and don't bring it back out. 560 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 2: It wasn't anything like. 561 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: That, particularly for the Bengals defense. The Packers offense I 562 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: think probably had more successful plays than the Bengals offense, 563 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: But the Bengals defense had plenty of good moments throughout 564 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: the practice. 565 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 2: No question. 566 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 9: And you know, the the Green Bay Packers get some 567 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 9: young skill guys, I mean young quarterback who has been 568 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 9: working behind a future Hall of Famer. I don't think 569 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,719 Speaker 9: that's done anything but help them get ready to assume 570 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 9: his his role this year and succeed in it. And 571 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 9: over the last two drafts they've drafted six receivers and 572 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:12,239 Speaker 9: two tight ends that are all good weapons, and so 573 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 9: it's a challenge out there. And then there's always, you know, 574 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 9: not only the fact that it's like we talked about, 575 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 9: if they faced configurations and formations, they hadn't seen lots packages, 576 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 9: they hadn't seen fronts, they hadn't seen alignments in the 577 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 9: back end. 578 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a. 579 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 9: Totally different ballgame than they've been working against, throwing different 580 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 9: people with different skills, and all of a sudden, your 581 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 9: comfort zone is gone. It's so much different. It's it's 582 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 9: it's game time out there. 583 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: You know. 584 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 9: It's it's very very very very similar to breaking a huddle, 585 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 9: come to the line of scrimmage and it's it's game time. 586 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 9: The difference is you haven't game planned, you know, for 587 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 9: for the Green Bay Pack or so you know that 588 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 9: that's a factor as well, although saying can be said 589 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 9: for them they didn't. They didn't game plan against the 590 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 9: Cincinnati Bengals either, so that's a wash. But as far 591 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 9: as getting ready for to play in an NFL game, 592 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 9: you feel much more confident and comfortable going into those 593 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 9: games when you've had a week of game planning. 594 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: We saw Joe Burrow out on the practice field for 595 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: the first time since suffering his calf injury. He obviously 596 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: didn't practice, but he was out there watching the action, 597 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: communicating with his teammates and communicating with the coaching staff. 598 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: Should we look at that as a positive? Do you 599 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: take any meaning from his presence on the field today. 600 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 9: You know, I think being the competitive that he is, 601 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 9: I mean, you could just imagine what's going through his head. 602 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 9: I'm sure he's like, I want to be out there 603 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 9: so badly with my teammates, taking these reps, getting ready, 604 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 9: working against the quality defensive football team that's well coached, 605 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 9: has great talent in their personnel. This would be sharpening 606 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 9: me for the game against the Cleveland Browns up in Cleveland, 607 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 9: and you know I can't do it, but I want 608 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 9: to be out there. And you know, the good point 609 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 9: was being made where he hadn't seen exactly what the 610 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 9: Green Bay package were presenting either. And it's not like 611 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 9: he hasn't seen just about everything under the sun. He 612 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 9: has at this point in time of his career, and 613 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 9: he has incredible recall about it all. You can spit 614 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 9: it back out for you exactly where people are aligned 615 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 9: right away. But it's good to see it again. You know, 616 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 9: it's not like he knows the Bengals defense cold. He's 617 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 9: worked against it now for years. It's sophisticated. Lou has 618 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 9: a lot of looks, but he's seen it all. But 619 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 9: now Green Bay coming with some different blitz packages and 620 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 9: some different personnel groupings and personnel within those groupings. So 621 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 9: I'm sure he wanted to see it hands on instead 622 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 9: of just watching tape. He probably wanted to test himself. 623 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 9: All right, where would I go? Now? He's not out 624 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 9: there just lollygagging around, you know, waving of the crowd. 625 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 9: Joe Burrow's out there taking mental reps. He's out there 626 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 9: listening to the play that's called. And there's no the 627 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 9: you know, one of the periods, there's no scripting the plays. 628 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 9: Whatsever It's just call it and run it, you know, 629 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 9: and try to stay on the football field and move 630 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 9: the ball drill. And I'm sure he was there here 631 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 9: in the play call looking at the defense. What would 632 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 9: I do? What would be my progression of reads? If 633 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 9: in fact I were under center? Would I look for? 634 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 9: What I look to audibilize out of this? Because you know, 635 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 9: this is not a good look to run this play 636 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 9: into you go through all those mental gymnastics, and I 637 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 9: think that, in my mind was as big reason as 638 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 9: any for him to be out there, just to go 639 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:38,719 Speaker 9: through the mental exercise and you know, sharpened that football 640 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 9: IQ as best he can. 641 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: What would a joint practice be without a fight or 642 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: fights plural? In this case, there was a big skirmish 643 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: that broke out and then a little one after that 644 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: number seventy four. The great left guard for the Packers, 645 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: Elgie Jenkins, was involved in both. It looked like in 646 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: the first he and BJ Hill were going at it. 647 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: Prap might have been involved in that one. The second 648 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: time around it was Jenkins and DJ Reader, and the 649 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: Packers pulled Jenkins out at that point. But uh, no, 650 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: matter what you try to do in these joint practices, 651 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: the intensity is much higher than it is when you're 652 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: competing against your teammates, and it gets feisty. 653 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 9: It does get feisty, and uh you know, I mean 654 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,719 Speaker 9: during the course of training camp and even in OTAs 655 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 9: we've seen Ted Carriss and DJ Reader get into it, 656 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 9: you know, And I mean it's it's just a competitive 657 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 9: environment that that that's that's without you know, shoulder pads 658 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 9: and helmets, on it, and it didn't turn into a fight. 659 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 9: It was just you know, extracurricular pushing back and forth 660 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 9: and challenging each other and uh and and getting a 661 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 9: little heated. 662 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 2: But DJ Reader is a man, and so is uh. 663 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 9: The Green Bay Packers have a man at the guard position, 664 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 9: and neither one of them wants to give an inch, 665 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 9: you know, their egos won't let them do that. And 666 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 9: and DJ Hill is feisty too. I mean, it's it's 667 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 9: it's a hot day, it's a humid day. I'm sure 668 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 9: there were some things going on that it built up 669 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 9: and built up on a snap by snap basis and 670 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 9: boiled over. And the fact that it was both of 671 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 9: the interior run stuffers going against a pretty good run blocker. 672 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 2: You know that. 673 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 9: Number one teammate was defended another teammate and number two 674 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 9: in the initial fight didn't appreciate what was going on. 675 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 9: I guess in terms of maybe a little extra pushing 676 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 9: after the whistle, whatever the case may be. But you're right, 677 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 9: it seems like what is a training camp practice against 678 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 9: an NFL opponent without a scuffle. 679 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 2: As such. 680 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,479 Speaker 1: DJ Reader didn't hold back, but asked about his tussle 681 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: with Elton Jenkins calling the two time pro bowler a 682 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: jag that does not stand for judge Advocate Generals like 683 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: the old TV show. In this case, it means just 684 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: a guy. The Bengals Boot Podcast is brought to you 685 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: by pay Corps. 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And I spoke to one of those 693 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: rookies this week. 694 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 2: One of the. 695 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: Bengals rookie wide receivers played just up the road for 696 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: the Miami RedHawks. We're talking to Mac Hippenhammer, who will 697 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: wear the number fourteen in the preseason opener against the 698 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. Mac, what's it going to mean to 699 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: you to charge out of that tunnel as an NFL 700 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: player in the opener against Green Bay? 701 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 2: It's gonna be really surreal. I will say that. 702 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 10: I mean I think this is an opportunity that a 703 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 10: lot of people like can't really imagine, and I think 704 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 10: for me, it's just it's surreal and just being able 705 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 10: to take that in and understand what's around me and 706 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 10: what I'm really walking out to. 707 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: So it'd be it'd be pretty cool. 708 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: You're from Fort Wayne, Indiana. What kind of rooting section 709 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: are you going to have? 710 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 2: Oh, that's that's a good question. 711 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 10: Probably mom and dad, my sister, maybe a couple of 712 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 10: other relatives, but fairly small, but I think there'll be 713 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 10: some family attendance. 714 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: He went to the same high school as Jesse Bates. 715 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: I believe you overlapped for one year in high school. 716 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: Are you and Jesse friendly and have you been in 717 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: contact since you signed with Cincinnati. 718 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, like Jesse was like my best friend in 719 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: high school. 720 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 10: As soon as I like signed with the Bengals, he 721 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 10: reached out immediately, was hey, like, I still got my 722 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 10: place there if you need somewhere to stay, like, I 723 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 10: got you. So it's kind of it's it's all love, 724 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 10: and he congratulated me on the opportunity. 725 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 2: It was just, you know, it was it was a 726 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 2: good talking to him. 727 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 10: Since he missed him by a year, but it was 728 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 10: it was really good to talk to him about it. 729 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: We're chatting with Mac kipping Hammer, rookie wide receiver out 730 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: of Miami University. You spent the last three years with 731 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: the RedHawks, but you started your college career playing football 732 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: and baseball at Penn State. You were starting outfielder for 733 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: the Niitney Lions. Why did you give up baseball and 734 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: do you miss it? 735 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 10: At one time, I was super passionate about baseball, and 736 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 10: you know, coming out of high school, like my dad 737 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 10: always said, play both of them as long as you can. 738 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: I obviously kind of took that to the heart. 739 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 10: So, you know, coming out of high school, I was 740 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 10: really passionate about both, and I think it got to 741 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 10: the point where I was like, I can't do this 742 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 10: for I can't do this forever and kind of have 743 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 10: to pick one. And I feel like my ceiling was 744 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 10: a bit higher, and you know, football, so I kind 745 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 10: of think that was the route I took. And then 746 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 10: my last year at Miami, you know, I didn't do 747 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 10: so well, so I was like, Okay, it's time to 748 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 10: hang it up. 749 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 2: But like the thing is with. 750 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 10: That, like if you want to be a really good 751 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 10: baseball player, Like I always say, like swinging the bats 752 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 10: like one of the hardest things to do, and like 753 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 10: for me to be able to achieve like the highest 754 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 10: level of baseball, I would have had it done a 755 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 10: year I would have I would have had to do it. 756 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 2: Like year round. 757 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 10: So it was kind of like, Okay, I'm at that point. 758 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 10: Well let's let's put all the tokens in where you 759 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 10: know my ceilings. 760 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: Highers, your last year of baseball might not have been great, 761 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 1: but your last year of football at Miami was last 762 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: year nine touchdown catches, including a thirty six yard TD 763 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: against the UC Bearcats in the Battle for the Victory 764 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: ball at pay Court Stadium. What were some of the 765 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: highlights of your college experience at Miami. 766 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 10: One of the best experiences top ten moments of my 767 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 10: life was probably going to the Bahamas ball That was 768 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 10: probably regardless of the result, that was probably like the 769 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 10: most amazing experience. Just being able to go to Atlantis 770 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 10: for a week with like your best friends and just 771 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 10: you know, go down slides and you know, I'm not 772 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 10: a gambler, but some of them were in the casino, 773 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,919 Speaker 10: but just like and knowing that was my last time 774 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 10: with those guys that it made it all the more special. 775 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 2: So I think that was probably one of the best 776 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 2: experiences at Miami. 777 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: Why'd you like to sign with the Bengals as a 778 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: college free agent? 779 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 10: Really kind of my opportunities were very limited, and I 780 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 10: came in for I think it was like the rookie 781 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,720 Speaker 10: mini camp, I believe, which they kind of do it differently. 782 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 2: It was only like it's. 783 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 10: Only one day, so you know, I wasn't really expecting 784 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 10: much out of that. And then you know, kind of 785 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 10: like twenty minutes after the workout on my agent calls said, hey, 786 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 10: Bengals are gonna sign and so I was like, okay, 787 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 10: let's you know, this is it now? 788 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 2: So I knew the opportunity was gonna come. 789 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 10: So it happened to be this one, and you know, 790 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 10: I just kind of hopped on it, and you know, 791 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 10: here we are. 792 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 1: So you are now part of the best wide receiver 793 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: group in the NFL. Jamar Chase, Tyler bowayde T Higgins, 794 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: and others. Let me get your thoughts on the Big three. 795 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: Beginning with Jamar what stands out about him. 796 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 2: Well he does really well was make contested catches look. 797 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 10: Really easy, and it's just like, like I looked to 798 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 10: the guy next to me, I'm like, how how does 799 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 10: that happen? But what I did realize is he's very strong, 800 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 10: Like in everything he does is row, you know, catching 801 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 10: down field and making people miss. 802 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 2: He's very sturdy overall. 803 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 10: T Higgins t was probably the one like I watched 804 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 10: the most just because, like, I've never seen somebody move 805 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 10: like that at his height. He runs his routes like 806 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 10: he's like five ten, which blows my mind. But he's 807 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,919 Speaker 10: very very I would say fast too, and not only 808 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 10: just because you know he's got long strives, but he's 809 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 10: like legit fast. 810 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 2: So it's amazing what he can do. And I always 811 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 2: trying to take from his game. Tyler Boyd. 812 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 10: I think what he does really well is make every 813 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 10: route look the same, and he's very crafty. He's obviously 814 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 10: been doing this a really long time so and obviously 815 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 10: we play the same position. So it's fun watching him 816 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 10: because you know, I try to take after him, and 817 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 10: you know, in the slot rule and the way he 818 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 10: kind of runs his routes with confidence, like he knows 819 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 10: he's gonna get open and some of the situations he 820 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 10: gets and I'm like, I don't know how I would 821 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,959 Speaker 10: have got open in there, but he makes every route 822 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,720 Speaker 10: look the same, and you know it's exciting. 823 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,439 Speaker 1: Best of luck and thanks for the time. 824 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. 825 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: That's going to do it for this episode of the 826 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast, brought to you by Bengals Picks and 827 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 1: Ultimate Bengals. 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