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Speaker 1: What's that at the foot of my bed. It's spooky. Hey, Joky,

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, I'm ghosted I gos nandas.

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Speaker 2: Pa.

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Speaker 1: Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to Ghosted by

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Speaker 1: Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people that

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Speaker 1: I like about the paranormal. Yay, it's a listener phone

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Speaker 1: call extravaganza. I love these episodes. Of course, you know

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Speaker 1: that you could be on one of these. You just

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Speaker 1: send an email to Ghosted by Roz at gmail dot

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Speaker 1: com with the subject line listener episode and then one

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Speaker 1: sentence bullet points of what your stories are about. Okay,

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Speaker 1: We've got three callers this time, and they bring the goods.

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Speaker 1: This first one is Holly. We get a little bit

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Speaker 1: of UFOs in here. We also get to talk about

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Speaker 1: fast food ghosts. That's right, We're going to the drive through,

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Speaker 1: all right, Holly, take it away. Hello Holly in the

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Speaker 1: Bay Area.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me, Hi Roz, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: You have got all kinds of stories. This list I

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Speaker 1: got here with bullet points. I love it because your

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Speaker 1: bullet points are just like one little sentence which makes

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Speaker 1: me go, oh, what could that be about? I don't

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Speaker 1: You saw UFO one time?

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Speaker 2: I didn't see one. I heard one in Joshua Tree.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's where they they loved Joshua Tree.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it was. I was there with a friend of

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Speaker 2: left side, like heard this weird mechanical like like vibrating noise,

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Speaker 2: Like it sounded like a machine I've never heard before,

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Speaker 2: and you could feel the vibrations like in our chests.

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Speaker 2: And then it stopped, and immediately me and my friend

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Speaker 2: looked at each other and we're like, did you hear that?

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Speaker 2: What was that? And we were looking around, couldn't see anything.

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Speaker 2: We're like, we see cars, we see planes, but it's

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Speaker 2: And looked around still nothing, and then we got up

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Speaker 2: and walked around. Oh and before that, when we had

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Speaker 2: of us like sitting in this like boulder area. After

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Speaker 2: revealing yourself. No one revealed anything. We walked around. We

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Speaker 2: there was a whole like full grown succulent that was

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Speaker 3: Weird.

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Speaker 2: Some gardening maybe some gardening, Yeah, a little planting.

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Speaker 1: You know. Well that could have been your opportunity to

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Speaker 1: so quickly been like please take me.

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Speaker 2: No, same, they didn't want us. They're just like we're

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Speaker 1: That's so funny. Okay, So what else should we talk about?

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Speaker 1: It seems like you've had multiple encounters with ghosts.

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Speaker 2: A lot of ghosts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the spookiest's what's your When you're at a

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Speaker 2: worked at McDonald's as a teenager. Okay, I was seventeen

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Speaker 2: Hello, where's my hamburger? Yeah, And so he immediately got chills.

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Speaker 1: A ketchup ghost, yeah, ketchup ghost.

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Speaker 2: And she her only movements was you would see arms

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Speaker 1: That's how I wanted a bite of that hamburger.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so they just we just watched them like

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Speaker 1: Weird.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so strange. I watched that video over

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Speaker 1: It's so fascinating because like you know, there's so many

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there's like tons of McDonald's where either people

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Speaker 1: there's like a lot of energy.

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Speaker 2: M Yeah, it had all of us that whole day.

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Speaker 2: There was a lot of conversations or among me and

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Speaker 2: people were like, no, it's not ghosts, it's just a

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Speaker 2: My manager wanted to shut it down, and she was like,

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Speaker 2: to think about if I was like, yeah, energy that

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Speaker 1: I don't like that idea because for me, it would

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Speaker 2: Oh, getting stuck trying to get soda from the soda machine.

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Speaker 1: give us one more. What's your second favorite ghost story

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Speaker 2: Okay, I stayed at a friend's house in Montana that

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Speaker 2: I stayed there for two weeks and I went there

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Speaker 2: That's the primary way that I experience as space that's haunted.

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Speaker 2: So the first night I got there, I slept on

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Speaker 1: Well, this is amazing, Holly, Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: If you ever want to hear any more, spooky stories.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Holly. I will never think about McDonald's the

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Speaker 1: Saint Louis. Okay, Sonny, the forecast is in and it

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Speaker 1: is Sonny in Saint Louis. Hi, Sonny high Rise.

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Speaker 4: It's always Sonny in Saint Louis.

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Speaker 1: Yes, how are you good?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 4: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: You have got some stories for us. First, I have

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Speaker 1: to know have you been to the Lamp Mansion in

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Speaker 4: I have, and nothing happened, and I'm very thankful for that.

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Speaker 1: I'm jealous of you because when I went there, I

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Speaker 4: I was there during the day. It was for a

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Speaker 1: Would you stay the night there?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: See that's the thing. It's like, you can stay the

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Speaker 1: tell me about you. So you see a psychic and

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, for me, it's I don't want to feel anything.

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Speaker 4: So I have had that happen, Like what where? So

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Speaker 4: So one instance that I had it was a good

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Speaker 4: Just let's just get through this. Let's just get through this.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: This is a good friend of mine that I've known

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Speaker 4: So we get through the house. We're outside now and

435
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 4: the neighbor just happened to be outside, I guess moving

436
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 4: a car, and he walked over, Hi, how are you

437
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 4: or are you moving? Into the house and my friend said,

438
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 4: you know, I'm looking at it. I might buy it

439
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 4: as an investment. And he said, it's a shame. What

440
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 4: happened to the family here.

441
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: Ah, he's this character in the horror movie, so.

442
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 4: We're all ears. So what had happened? He said that

443
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 4: the father, the husband, was going to work one night

444
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 4: there was an accident on the highway and he drove

445
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 4: right underneath a semi truck and it lights out, and

446
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 4: then the mom got sick, couldn't keep up the house.

447
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 4: The kids took over and it went in the foreclosure.

448
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 4: So I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened,

449
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 4: but those those things happened.

450
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 3: Well, I was.

451
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: So like, when you're a realtor, honestly, this is crazy.

452
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: And all the years we've done this show, I don't

453
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: think I've ever like talked to someone that's a realtor

454
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: about the ghost side of things. But would you have

455
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: moments where you're like, Okay, I learned that someone said

456
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: that this hubs was haunted, or a horrific murder happened here,

457
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: or like, I don't know anything like that. Has that

458
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: happened with you?

459
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 4: So not prior to. I typically don't have knowledge of

460
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 4: the history or who's lived there. You typically don't. It's

461
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 4: more you have an address, you have your client, and

462
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 4: you have what you need to present to them. It's

463
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 4: very rare that I've had that butt the Extorsist house

464
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 4: his here in Saint Louis. Oh, it did go on

465
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 4: the market probably, it's been a it's been a while,

466
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 4: and I believe I showed it. I don't know if

467
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 4: I did, but it was in a neighborhood that I

468
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 4: did have a client that was interested in that type

469
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 4: of architecture, that price range, and that home. I might

470
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 4: have shown it. I don't know. I didn't go back

471
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 4: in the rollot X to check because I didn't want

472
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 4: to know. But nothing happened.

473
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: But do you have to tell people that that it's

474
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: the Exorcis house.

475
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 4: No? No, And I believe in one of your podcasts

476
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 4: something something really or related came up. And we do

477
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 4: not have anything in Saint Louis or Missouri that is

478
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 4: considered a psychologically impacted clause. So what that means is

479
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 4: something that negatively adversely happened there to make you not

480
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 4: want to live there. Murder, okay, crime, We don't have that.

481
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 4: What we have is just a physical disclosure. So if

482
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 4: there was has Matt cleanup, that's different.

483
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, Yeah, and that's the house that it was

484
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: like the little boy that was allegedly possessed and that

485
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: story is what inspired the Exorcists like years later. Right,

486
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Okay, tell me more ghost stories. What do

487
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: you got?

488
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:35,719
Speaker 4: So okay, let's see fast forward to two thousand and seven.

489
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 4: I'm with some clients from the East Coast and that's

490
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 4: how I got my tagline Sunny in Saint Louis. I

491
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 4: didn't do it myself. It was I had West coast

492
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 4: East Coast clients that were looking for investment properties because

493
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 4: Saint Louis was extremely affordable compared to the coast still is.

494
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 4: So I had a group from Brooklyn come down and

495
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, they look they look like rappers. The

496
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 4: one looked like fifty cent. He's still a good friend

497
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 4: of mine. Just you know, you're not messing with these guys,

498
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 4: and they're not. There's there's scary looking, the biggest Steddy bears. Awesome.

499
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 4: So they bought about seven or eight properties, you know,

500
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 4: within a certain area. So the last property that he

501
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 4: did purchase we go to check this property out. It

502
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 4: was dusk, so the sky was beautiful. It was just

503
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 4: that pinkish. It was the summer pinkish sunset that's getting

504
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 4: ready to happen at dusk. And we're not in the

505
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 4: best of areas, probably about ten minutes away from Lamp

506
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 4: North from where you were at at the Lamp Mansion. Okay,

507
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 4: So when I was waiting for my client, I noticed

508
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 4: that there was a bullet hole in the front window,

509
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 4: which is not uncommon. Where we were at it was

510
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 4: a distress property. It was a foreclosure. Sometimes in those

511
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 4: cases it looks like an eviction. You know, people took

512
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 4: what they wanted, left what they didn't. So there was

513
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 4: clothes there. There was It wasn't completely empty, so it

514
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 4: wasn't a clean property. There still was former personal property there.

515
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 4: So we get in and with my investor clients, they

516
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 4: know what they're looking for. They know what they want,

517
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 4: so there's really not much that I'm telling them except

518
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 4: just for answering questions. So I'm facilitating them seeing the property,

519
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 4: seeing the condition. They know what they're looking for. So

520
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,719
Speaker 4: I walked them in the first main floor and then

521
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 4: they decided to go up there was five of them.

522
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 4: It was my main buyer with his crew. So they

523
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 4: decided to go upstairs. So I went out onto the porch.

524
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 4: There's nothing I needed to see. It was either going

525
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 4: to be a yes no, on off type situation. So

526
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 4: you could hear them go upstairs. They're not light footed,

527
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 4: they're a little heavy footed. You know. There are guys

528
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 4: in work boots going up the stairs. You could hear them,

529
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 4: you know, walking in the hall. No big deal. I'm

530
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 4: on the porch.

531
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: All of a.

532
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 4: Sudden, just boom boom, boom boo boom, and they're yelling

533
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 4: my name and what So with a distressed property like

534
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 4: those squatters could be in there. Sure there could be animals, feces,

535
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 4: dead animals. Haven't forbid a dead body, you know, it's possible.

536
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 4: So that was my first thought, is what was up there?

537
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 4: What do I need to do? I need to call

538
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 4: the police. What's going on? So they're running down stairs, sonny, sonny,

539
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 4: and they get It's like, yes, I'm here, and they

540
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 4: came out on the porch. Once they saw me, they

541
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 4: said where were you? Where were you? And I said

542
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 4: I was right here, what's wrong? And they just kind

543
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 4: of nervously chuckled to themselves. So they said, Sonny, we

544
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 4: went upstairs. All of the doors in the hall were opened.

545
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 4: So this had been converted from a separate unit now

546
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 4: all bedrooms. So there was about four bedrooms, a couple

547
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 4: hall closets, a bathroom. Said Sonny, there was every door

548
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 4: was open. Okay, we didn't open any door. So they

549
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 4: looked at all the rooms, said, we're in the back

550
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 4: room looking at the lot. So from the window, looking

551
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 4: out at the lot, just to see where the property

552
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 4: lines were, what they needed to do in the backyard,

553
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 4: fencing whatever. He said, We turned around to leave. That

554
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 4: bedroom door was shut. Didn't think anything of it. They

555
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 4: thought I had done that. They opened the door, watched

556
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 4: in the hallway. All the doors were shut. Now I

557
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 4: didn't hear any door shut. That's when they ran down

558
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 4: the stairs. So they ended up purchasing the property. Okay,

559
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 4: really good deal. Within a month, I go in to

560
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 4: visit to see how construction's going. They were able to

561
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 4: get a property turned around pretty quickly. One of his

562
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 4: construction crew guys said, Sonny, what is wrong with this house?

563
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 4: Each one of us has shed blood in this house,

564
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 4: and not in a small way like one had a

565
00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 4: nail go through their fingers. Accidents had happened, so I

566
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 4: have no idea. So getting through now with the permits

567
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 4: with the city. My buyer found out that the property

568
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 4: had been condemned, and you have to do extra steps

569
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 4: to get a property at that time in the city

570
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 4: of Saint Louis where this was in that certain ward,

571
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 4: you had to do a little bit more extra steps

572
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 4: to get it out of condemned status. The reason why

573
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 4: I was condemned they found out that there was a

574
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 4: girl that had been raped and murdered and set on

575
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 4: fire in the basement on fire. Yeah, so they renovated

576
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 4: the property. The tenants had been there for he had

577
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 4: long term, like twelve year tenants. Nobody had an issue.

578
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 4: I don't know it was. Nobody had an issue.

579
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: Fascinating whoa okay, tell.

580
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 4: Us one more So, there was a foreclosed property that

581
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 4: I had listed again probably ten twelve years ago. And

582
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 4: when you when the bank endless you, they usually go

583
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 4: through a third party and then they go to you

584
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 4: to list the property. Once they do everything that they

585
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 4: need to do as far as getting the owners out

586
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 4: whatever the bank has to do. So then we have

587
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 4: something called property preservation. It's usually a weekly or every

588
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 4: other week check of the property. So somebody had to

589
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 4: physically go and check on the property and do a check.

590
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 4: Let's make sure that if utilities are on or if

591
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 4: it's secure. Just that's just protocol for when it's listed

592
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 4: until it's closed. So there's this one property in South

593
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 4: County which is out of the city limits, just a

594
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 4: little bit further from MP from where you're at, probably

595
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 4: fifteen minutes past that south. It was real haunted. It

596
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 4: was on the I never had an incident there, but

597
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 4: I wasn't there long enough to have an incident there,

598
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 4: and I never went by myself. So property preservation. He

599
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 4: would walk in and somebody would say hello, an old

600
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 4: woman like an old woman void hello, and he would

601
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 4: reply hello, because again with a vacant property, a squatter

602
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 4: could happen. Sure somebody could break in. There's nobody there.

603
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 4: And whatever you do a showing, there's a feedback report

604
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 4: that is generated to the agent that just showed it,

605
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 4: just hey, what was the price, what'd you think of

606
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 4: the house? Just to kind of help you move it along.

607
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 4: There were multiple times where feedback came. There was a

608
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 4: mist we saw a mist form we heard somebody, we

609
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 4: heard hello, this place is haunted. Yeah, it was that

610
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 4: property over a year. It finally sold after many reductions.

611
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, and that's a This is an interesting thing

612
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: to think about with, Like, Okay, if we go with

613
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: the theory that it goes to someone that died, like

614
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: in a house, you could know all the history of

615
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: everyone that died whatever, but you might not know in

616
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: those periods when the house was up for sale, if

617
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: did someone break in and die by accident or you

618
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: know who knows? Like the oh spooky correct. I'm obsessed

619
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: with this. Oh my god. Any realators listening please, First

620
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: of all, Sonny laid it out right here, and this is, uh,

621
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: this is what we're looking for from all you. So

622
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: the bar has been set high. But if you're a

623
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: realator listening and you got stories like those, please right in.

624
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: I want to hear all of this. I love it.

625
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 4: They're out there, trust me, they're out there.

626
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: Thank you, Sonny in Saint Louis. Oh my god, Okay,

627
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: we got one more. This one is Alex. Alex has

628
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: a haunted house in the family and there's a lot

629
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: of history to this house. And I like this story

630
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: because it's not like this is like a longtime family home,

631
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: like no, no, no, no. This home has only been in

632
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: the family for a few years, and they have weird

633
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: stuff happening. And what I was just talking about was

634
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: Sonny where like, oh, maybe some weird stuff could happen

635
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: just when the house is empty, because this is this

636
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 1: is a story about a house that was left empty

637
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: for a number of years. I don't know. I'm thinking

638
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: about a lot of things after these phone calls. Here

639
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: we go my conversation with Alex. Oh my god, it's

640
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: Alex in Ohio. Hello, how are you. I'm great. I

641
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 1: heard that you're actually in a haunted house as we speak.

642
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, And I when I walked in, I let

643
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: the spirits know, like I'm going to be talking about

644
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 3: your stories. Nothing bad on you. I just want the

645
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 3: world to know what's going on in this house. And

646
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 3: don't take get out of my mom because she lives here,

647
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 3: because we are telling some of the things that happen here.

648
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: Okay, so the cat's out of the bag.

649
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 3: It's the type of house where you just feel like

650
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 3: you're always being watched. So I'm constantly just like, hey,

651
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: I'm here, I'm in the kitchen, or like I start

652
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 3: playing music, just like I don't hear anything.

653
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: Do you know who the ghosts are?

654
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 3: I am not sure. In preparing for this podcast, I

655
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 3: have done kind of a deep dive, so I have

656
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 3: a couple historical ideas based off of the documents that

657
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 3: I found. But I'm assuming like the one experience that

658
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: I had was my grandfather. But there's just so many things.

659
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: Okay, tell us everything. Where do we start? I guess

660
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: let's talk about this house while we're on the topic. Yes, okay,

661
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 1: So how long has your mother been there?

662
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 3: She's been here since about twenty twenty. But my grandfather

663
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 3: is the one who purchased this house in twenty sixteen.

664
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 3: He was able to move in after like the renovations

665
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen. It was an abandoned house that he

666
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 3: purchased off of a sheriff's auction for the county. The

667
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 3: person who previously lived here was an antithesiologist at a

668
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 3: local hospital. She was in a car accident on her

669
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 3: way to work and went into a coma. She's originally

670
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 3: from New England, like Connecticut. I'm not really sure. So

671
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 3: her family they like came back and had like a

672
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: cousin or something taking care of the house so that

673
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 3: when she finally did pass, the person just took like

674
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 3: all of the expensive possessions like the TVs and stuff

675
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: out of the house and left everything like all of

676
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 3: the personal relics. Like this place was boarded up for

677
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 3: a couple of years until the sheriff cut the lock

678
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 3: open the day that I was here with my grandpa

679
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 3: and we just like walked into like this person's life.

680
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: Oh that's spooky.

681
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 3: Well, and so again, you know, we're going through things,

682
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: we're taking things. I have certain things of hers, mainly

683
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 3: like some CDs, but also she was an anesthesiologist, so

684
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 3: like they all keep like a notebook of dosage or

685
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: like how long you should wait for certain you know,

686
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 3: the ratios. So I kept that because I was like, okay,

687
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 3: that's like it's handwritten by her, Like it clearly was

688
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 3: close to her. She didn't have it on or maybe

689
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 3: she did have it on her purse and once you left,

690
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 3: but it was left here in this house.

691
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: Is she lived there alone?

692
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 3: I don't want to skip ahead, but somebody showed up

693
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 3: to one of our parties and he had lived here

694
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 3: with her. But because he wasn't on the mortgage. The

695
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: family like kicked him out. We were having a friends

696
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 3: giving here. We have found family. It's not just our family,

697
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: all of our friends. The guy just shows up because

698
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 3: he saw a bunch of cars. He's like, I drive

699
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 3: past this place all the time, and I think about Heidi,

700
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 3: and I saw you had cars here, so I decided

701
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,959
Speaker 3: to show up. And we're just like, okay, cause again,

702
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 3: we only know Haidi from what we took out of

703
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: here and like her photos and stuff and all of

704
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 3: her furniture, and so he was just kind of like

705
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 3: walking around like he was intoxicated, and we were just like,

706
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 3: you know, this crazy old man just stopped by at

707
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 3: a party. And so we go upstairs in my mom's

708
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 3: bedroom and it has like a Jack and Jill bathroom,

709
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 3: where like there's a toilet on either side and there's

710
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 3: a door, and he walked through. He like he held

711
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 3: on to the door. Friend and goes, I had the

712
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 3: best blow drob in this bathroom. And it's me and

713
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 3: my mom and my uncle and we're just like.

714
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: Yep, okay, sir, can you please leave? Yes?

715
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 3: So and I know before Heidi again, crazy turn of

716
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 3: coincidence my aunt uncle on my other side of my family,

717
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 3: on my maternal side of the family. Their next door

718
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 3: neighbors lived here before Heidi moved in, Like they sold

719
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 3: the house to Heidi.

720
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: Oh fascinating what happened to them.

721
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 3: They are still living. They're still living. They live next

722
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 3: to my aunt uncle and you, which is you know,

723
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 3: maybe five eight miles away from here. So the woman

724
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 3: actually came here when my grandpa was still alive, like,

725
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 3: my uncle invited her like, so she came in and

726
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 3: the only thing we did not change in this entire house,

727
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 3: and my grandpa decided not to change was the wallpaper

728
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 3: in the first four bathroom because it's music sheets and

729
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 3: my mom plays the piano. So my grandpa was like, oh,

730
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 3: we'll keep this. She walks in and she.

731
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 5: Goes, oh my god, you kept my wallpaper. I put

732
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 5: this wallpaper up myself again. So absolutely strange. So my

733
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 5: grandpa moved in here while we were like here, we

734
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 5: were cleaning out stuff.

735
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 3: We didn't know what to do with Heidi's photos, so like,

736
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 3: we donated so much stuff. We kept a lot of stuff,

737
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 3: but my mom was like, what do we do with

738
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 3: these photos? She was like, oh, maybe we'll just bury them.

739
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 3: And then luckily someone did like a little bit of

740
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 3: research and was like, oh no, that's how ghosts come

741
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 3: and like haunt you if you bury things. So we

742
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 3: just like we just keep some of our photos. So

743
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 3: again it was Heidi, my aunt and uncle's neighbors. And

744
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 3: then before that, I know that there was an illustrator,

745
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: like a famous comic illustrator named Roger Bolin. He was

746
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: an illustrator for a comic or like a newspaper comic

747
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 3: series called The Animal Crackers. Okay, again, we didn't know

748
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 3: anything about this when we're first walking through. My grandfather,

749
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 3: I should say, was a landlord. He sold use cars.

750
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 3: Like we just look at property as property, you know,

751
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 3: nothing really sentimental. So we're going through like just doing

752
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 3: like checklists, and we noticed there were just like these

753
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 3: beautiful paintings on the wall upstairs. We're like, oh my god, Grandpa,

754
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 3: please please just do not paint. Don't paint over this,

755
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 3: like I know it looks weird. It was like the

756
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 3: weirdest pea green that you've ever seen. But there were

757
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 3: like beautiful illustrations of animals like just up the doorway,

758
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 3: like they were climbing on top of each other and

759
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 3: he painted over it.

760
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: Ah.

761
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 3: We later found out that that was Roger Bolan's inspiration room.

762
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 3: That's where he went to do all of his work.

763
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: That could have been worth money maybe somehow if you

764
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: would have chopped it out of the wall or something.

765
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: But okay, we got to hear about the ghost stuff though,

766
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: so like, what kind of freaky stuff is happening?

767
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 3: Okay, when it first happened, my grandfather started getting wasn't

768
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 3: able to take care of himself. I would come over

769
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 3: just like bring over groceries or you know, fix things.

770
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 3: You just always feel like somebody is watching in this house.

771
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 3: I would put a certain thing in one place. The

772
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 3: next time two days later, I go to the pill bottle,

773
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 3: no idea where it is, and my grandpa where is it? Like,

774
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 3: great Grandpa, you're losing your mind, you know, not even

775
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 3: think anything of it. He had a couple bad falls

776
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 3: in the root cellar like downstairs, and just like would

777
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 3: hallucinate about things. And we finally got him to the

778
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 3: hospital after he had a traumatic brain injury and he

779
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 3: was like sitting in here for like hours. So I

780
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 3: don't know what type of thing was feeding off of

781
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 3: him during that time. But when he got home, he

782
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 3: was never the same, like absolutely never the same, just

783
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 3: like so different. One of the distinct things I remember,

784
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 3: I would turn the lights on, knowing I'm the only

785
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 3: person go back around all the lights are turned off.

786
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 3: My mom's current cleaning lady. It will also turn on

787
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 3: and off the lights for her in the dining room.

788
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: Interesting.

789
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: So the biggest, the biggest thing that happened to me

790
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 3: while I was here, my grandfather passed away. We were

791
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 3: having like the funeral lunch here, you know, catered food,

792
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 3: and there was only a couple of us, like less

793
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 3: than ten, and I was pregnant secretly didn't tell anybody,

794
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 3: and I wasn't drinking. I was in the living room

795
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 3: because everybody was doing shots to like shut you up.

796
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 3: You know, that's just how our family is. I was like, no,

797
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna like hang out. I'm like so exhausted,

798
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 3: I'm talking to everybody, you know, just literally hiding the

799
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: fact that was pregnant, and I'm sitting in my grandpa's

800
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 3: reclined and I just like I looked over and I

801
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 3: just see the side table with the lamp lift up

802
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 3: covered by the door go back down completely fine.

803
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: It lifted you way away. It was a table with

804
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: a lamp on it and it lifted up in the air.

805
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. And also like I have this next to me,

806
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 3: we keep this photo of my grandpa. Like and even

807
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: before he passed, this photo was always on that side

808
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 3: table and uh, it was on it, and I was

809
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 3: just like, cause again completely sober. I have read that

810
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 3: when you are pregnant, you are you are holding something

811
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 3: in between the spirit world, in between life and death.

812
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: Oh.

813
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 3: Interesting, you are more in tuned with the spirit world

814
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 3: because someone of the spirit world is inside you currently.

815
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 3: And when my grandfather was in hospice, when of the

816
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 3: last time I went to see him, he was unresponsive

817
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: and I just told him like, hey, I'm pregnant. You're

818
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 3: blood will live on through him in some way, and

819
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 3: like the next day he passed.

820
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 4: Oh I know.

821
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 3: But again he's he makes himself known.

822
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: Okay, so you think it's him, he's one of the ghosts.

823
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: It was obviously haunted before he passed.

824
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 3: Yes, my grandfather had cerebral palsy. He didn't walk until

825
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 3: the age of five, so he was always like a

826
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 3: medical mystery that he was able to do so much

827
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 3: so after he passed away. My mom took over his

828
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 3: main bedroom, so she was cleaning out a side table

829
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 3: with all of the roccolas and like the pieces of

830
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 3: dark chocolate. And also I think I mentioned he was

831
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 3: a used car salesman. He also thought people were in

832
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 3: his house and bought like a couple of guns. So

833
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 3: I was like, and I knew he kept one of

834
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 3: the guns in his nightstand because one time I went

835
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 3: to go, like get a tissue out for him, and

836
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 3: it just slid out. I'm like, what do you do?

837
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 3: And it wasn't like it wasn't an automatic. It was

838
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 3: a revolver, so you have to put the bullets in.

839
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 3: And I'm like, he's, you know, shaking a Cereubra pulsy.

840
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 3: He's in his seventies.

841
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you But he had it because

842
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 1: he thought that people were in the house. Yes, probably

843
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: because he heard goes again I.

844
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 3: Said that, But also like he gave his key to

845
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 3: like random people. And his main place of business was

846
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 3: like in collin Wood, like in Cleveland, so he employed

847
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: a lot of like former drug addicts and people he

848
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 3: was trying to help rehabilitate. And so it's funny you

849
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 3: bring that up because he loved going to one of

850
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 3: the local high school pancake breakfasts. When he was unable

851
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 3: to do it like with his mobility, I would just

852
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 3: go and get it to go container for him, drop

853
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 3: it off, and then also drop off my rent because

854
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 3: he was my landlord for the house that I lived at.

855
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 3: So again, drop off the money, drop off the pancakes.

856
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 3: He's still asleep at like twelve o'clock. He calls me

857
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 3: out like two o'clock and he goes, did you leave

858
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 3: that money? And I'm like, yeah, put it in the drawer.

859
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 3: He goes, it's not there, Like, well I put it there.

860
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 3: I left like the door was locked. I don't know

861
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 3: what you want me to tell you. That was really

862
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 3: the kick off that I was like, Okay, are people

863
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 3: breaking in or is it like super super haunted? Because

864
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 3: I hadn't had anything happened to me yet.

865
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: I think that anesthesiologist lady was taking that money.

866
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 3: Oh well, okay, so it was the anistysiologist the illustrator, but

867
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Speaker 3: I left out the original background of this house. Do

868
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 3: you want me to continue with the ghost stories or

869
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 3: do you want the history?

870
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit more ghosts?

871
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 3: Okay, So again my mom moved into the master bedroom,

872
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 3: cleaned out the side table where the gun was, like

873
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 3: I was saying, and there were like all these random

874
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 3: bullets that were in there. So she you know, piled

875
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 3: it up and put them downstairs. So the next night

876
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 3: she goes to bed. She wakes up the next day

877
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 3: and like, opens the drawer. Another bullet falls down. She

878
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 3: was like, what the Like I thought I'd cleaned this out.

879
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 3: She took everything out, like my mom has run hotels

880
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 3: her entire life, Like if she's doing a clean she's

881
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 3: doing a clean base and like putting everything back in.

882
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 3: So she did another sweep. She's like, how did Maybe

883
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 3: it was like behind the drawer and it fell back out.

884
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 3: The next night, she goes to bed, wakes up the

885
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 3: next day, opens the drawer. Another bullet falls down. What

886
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 3: and so the first bullet that fell down she like

887
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,959
Speaker 3: put she put it in the drawer, like I said,

888
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 3: where I could where we the cash drawer or whatever.

889
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 3: She put the bullet in there. So she's like, what

890
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 3: the fuck? And so she took the second bullet and

891
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 3: went down in the first bullets also still sitting in

892
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 3: the drawer.

893
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: It's like this ghost has a secret stash someplace of

894
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: like cash and bullets.

895
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 3: So my grandfather he was such a trickster, and he

896
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 3: was like just so silly, and it's the like the

897
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 3: Appalachian ho billy silly. He always said, like, when I died,

898
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 3: get your shovels out so you can go find all.

899
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:56,959
Speaker 4: The money I hid.

900
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 3: Me thought he was like joking, you know, like the

901
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 3: old school. He was part of the teamsters. He retired

902
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 3: from the teamstairs. I was like, you know, do we

903
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 3: start coping cutting out the mattresses. We've got through every

904
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 3: point of this house and then we're like, well do

905
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 3: we go back to the old houses and start digging

906
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 3: things up? But that's like weird. If he would have moved,

907
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 3: you probably would have like brought the stash here, right,

908
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 3: I don't know. I did the majority of the hard

909
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 3: labor the last couple of years. You would think you

910
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 3: would like, I don't know, leave a treasure map. Like'd

911
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 3: be like, all dig here, you know, so we haven'tound

912
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 3: we haven't found it yet. November twenty twenty one is

913
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 3: when I saw the table levitate with the lamp and

914
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 3: the picture frame. And then I had my son in July,

915
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 3: so that November of twenty twenty two, we had another

916
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 3: friends giving, different friends giving from when the guy showed up,

917
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 3: but this friend's giving because my son was just bored.

918
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 3: We usually have like a decent amount of kids come over,

919
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 3: so they go upstairs and play in my mom's bedroom

920
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 3: because it has a TV and like I said, she

921
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 3: plays piano, so there's an electric keyboard up there that

922
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 3: they can just you.

923
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: Know, bash on.

924
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 2: No problem.

925
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 3: The kids were playing upstairs and the door just slammed

926
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 3: shut on themo And again we have preepy kids, like

927
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 3: they know all about that. They're immediately like this is

928
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 3: a ghost and you know, ran down and they're like

929
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 3: panicking like this happened. This happened. And again all the

930
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 3: adults were like, okay, what I'm like, sure, sure, but

931
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 3: every single kid said the same thing. So in order

932
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 3: to tie that back, this was originally a schoolhouse there

933
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 3: we go, Yeah, so we were always told that it

934
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 3: was the Thomas Edison or Thomas Jefferson School, one of

935
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 3: the first elementary schools in Willoughby, which is where this is.

936
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 3: I found out through research it was originally the Maple

937
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 3: Grove School. This house was originally built started being built

938
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 3: in eighteen eighty was finished in eighteen eighty nine and

939
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 3: then opened up as a school. The school teacher would

940
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:09,240
Speaker 3: live upstairs in like cold school in those first floor area.

941
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 3: This house is technically a century home. I don't know

942
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 3: if that's unique to Ohio, but we have ohiouse century homes.

943
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 3: You have to fill in an application they you know,

944
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 3: deem if your house was important or not. But it

945
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 3: also like really jacks up your insurance and they almost

946
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 3: canceled my mom's home insurance because it was a century

947
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 3: home and it was like a historic landmark. So my

948
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 3: mom had the Historical Society go through and they're like, not,

949
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 3: it was just a school. It's not like anybody important

950
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 3: went to school here. It was a school until nineteen

951
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 3: twenty seven, but the original teacher who is here still

952
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 3: lived here. We also have information from the Historical Society

953
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 3: that they tried to sell this house like through auction

954
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 3: two times from nineteen twenty seven, and then by nineteen

955
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 3: thirty nine, the school board was like, just give it

956
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 3: to this lady who the old teacher has just been

957
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 3: living there for years, right, So they signed it over

958
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 3: to her. So her name was Vivian Louis rass.

959
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,959
Speaker 1: Land and then did she tragically die in there?

960
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 3: I have not been able to look up. I don't

961
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 3: I'm assuming again like it who knows? And also I

962
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 3: will say my grandfather was a collector of antiques, like

963
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 3: who knows what he could have also brought into here.

964
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: What does your mom have to say about this?

965
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 3: Oh, it's haunted.

966
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: She lives with it, and she's there by herself.

967
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, things are constantly going missing. Still She's just like,

968
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 3: I don't know where things have gone. I guess technically

969
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 3: there might be an atticut stairs, but like, nobody goes up.

970
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: There, so that's where the money is.

971
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 3: No, he had very specific instructions for his death, and

972
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 3: he said no, no, you have to get your shovel out,

973
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 3: which means digging. He was one spooky guy.

974
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: He's cool. I like him. Well, thanks for doing this.

975
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 3: Oh my god, thank you so much for having me.

976
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 3: It was such an honor to meet you.

977
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: You too, Hey, what's up behind you? Oh? Thank you

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00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,719
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986
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