1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Hi, guys, this is Teddy Mellencamp and I'm joined by 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: my friend Emily Simpson for our new spin off show 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: Popping Off, where we are digging deep on this season 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: of Banner Pump Rules. 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: Hi guys, welcome to another episode of Popping Off, but 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: instead of Emily, this week, I am with our favorite 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: Carlos King. 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 3: Hey, Teddy, and Emily. Honey, I love replacing you. Just 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 3: for the day, girl, just for the day. She's an 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 3: off sister. She's gonna be all jelly. I can tell already. 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: She's not even responding. Well, now you've gotten a taste 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: of what everybody that works with me has to deal 13 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: with with me sending clips like every two seconds to 14 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: update the rundown, like for everyone I know. It's the 15 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: constability in you. Girl. 16 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not a ten year old Teddy. I 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 3: know how to open a link and I'm not to 18 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 3: share it Like it's okay, Teddy. I'm a journalist like you. 19 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: You're Teddy Walters. I'm Carlos Winfrey. So we are great. 20 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 2: Listen, Carlos Winfrey. There are some people that I need 21 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: to micromanage a b So it's just in the habit Okay, 22 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: I receive it, girl, All good, but no, right as 23 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 2: we're about to start popping off, the last like little 24 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: clip I sent was because we had just heard Brittany 25 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: on a podcast or whatever talking about how don't worry guys. 26 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: They picked up cameras again to start filming The Valley 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: after everything happened with me and Jacks. So this is 28 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: my question, obviously, Emily and I will recap once I 29 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: think The Valley starts premiering next week. But do you 30 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: think this is a publicity stunt or do you think. 31 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: You know, look, I think it's one of those things 32 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: now where Vanda pump Rules was on thin ice right 33 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: like it was almost almost in your cancelation, and then 34 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: obviously this scandalval happened, which I do believe is real. 35 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 3: I believe that Jackson Brittany took a page out of 36 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 3: that book because in my opinion, they're thirsty, and it's 37 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: okay being thirsty, just don't be dehydrated. But they're on 38 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 3: the verge of the hydration like the Sahara desert. Give 39 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 3: me a water bottle, hydrate that manter and then feed 40 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 3: it to me in my veins. 41 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: Jackson and Brittany on that verge of the hydration. 42 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: So I'm definitely a little like side eyeing this all 43 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: of this because how convenient that Britney my Love told 44 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: the world darling that don't worry, hammers are capturing this, 45 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 3: So please tune into the Valley every Tuesday at nine 46 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 3: o'clock a Central. 47 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 2: Bravo like girl, get out of here. Well, my other 48 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: question is, if you are going to stage your breakup, 49 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: can you please do it more organized? Like I don't 50 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 2: want to see the messy car with the eighty two 51 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: trash bags and the paparazzi shots that are supposed to 52 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: look like it, like how I look right now, like 53 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: and like do it with like some real planning, like 54 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: I'll show out, have the box is labeled, have the 55 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 2: outfit on point, get glam like do it. 56 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: It's a scene straight out of again a Bravo reality 57 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: show I'm with You. Nobody goes to publics or two 58 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 3: rafts on Hollywood Boulevard and buys hefty bags and then 59 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 3: all of a sudden calls their glam squad and say, 60 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: can you give me a bumping curl? 61 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: How about to give me. 62 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: A nice rint, you know, throw in a nice like 63 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 3: track or two so I can have a bang, so 64 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: I can go out with the bank. It's all stage 65 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: to me, and listen, I think Jackson bringing our great television. 66 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 3: I am not buying what they're selling on the corner 67 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 3: of Sunset Boulevard. 68 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: I'm just not buying it. I don't know. I mean, 69 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: as we see, like the the new trailer was released 70 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: because there was that like little mini trailer before which 71 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: nobody was that excited about, and so then they dropped 72 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: the like lengthier one which shows like the couple's marital woes, 73 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: and like that, the additional footage is going to be aired, 74 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 2: and then it ends with Kristen saying if I was 75 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: going to deal with this bullshit something along the lines. 76 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: But I was going to deal with this bullshit, I 77 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: may as well still be on Vanders. I was like, one, 78 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 2: I didn't know that was an option for you, right, 79 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 2: you have a choice in this girl bye co. I 80 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I mean I would rather do a 81 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 2: lot of things, but you know it ain't happened, so 82 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 2: let's let's throw them out there, like, yeah, you know what, 83 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: I'd like to be nominated for an Oscar, But guess 84 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: what I'm doing a podcast here. 85 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm with you. I would love to play 86 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: Roxy hard Chicago. Okay, somebody cheat on me. I am 87 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: begging for somebody to cheat on me so that I 88 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: can play Roxy on Chicago. I need to fill those 89 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: high heels and dance and do a split or two 90 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 3: and study Renee Zellweger so that I like, can somebody 91 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 3: please sleep with my man cheating on me? Let me 92 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 3: go down to USPS buy a box? Can somebody follow me? 93 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: Can glam marlow Hampton? Can your glam squad beat my 94 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 3: face with Rihanna's finty beauty makeup so that I can 95 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 3: give me a chance on Broadway? 96 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: Well, what's your man looked like? And I'll tell you 97 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: if I'll do it? Well, he does a mixture between 98 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: Simon between Simon top. Oh my gosh. All you have 99 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 2: to do is then add in who else's house husband 100 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: that really wants to be on air. Marcus Jordan. 101 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: By the way, listen, this is such a sidebar for you, 102 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 3: Teddy Joe. I think Marcus is so hot, and I've 103 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: been Larsa clean them up. He's like, I don't know, 104 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 3: I have to think on Marcus Jordan. 105 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: No, I think he's hot too, but he When we're 106 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: talking about Simon and we're also talking about Peter, we 107 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: are talking about guys that like to be on camera. 108 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 2: This next headline before we get into recapping the episode, 109 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: it's a picture of Lalla and Amber and Ocean and 110 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 2: Lalla stepdaughters. They're all together for Ocean's birthday, and it's 111 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 2: creating a lot of discussion because it's showing those everybody together. 112 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 2: To me, this isn't shocking, No, if you're inside, Like, 113 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: if my husband and I were to get divorced tomorrow, 114 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: I would be such an asshole if I didn't continue 115 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: building the relationship that I've had with my stepdaughter for 116 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: the past fifteen years. Not only asshole, I love her 117 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: and if I didn't talk to him, I would talk 118 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: to like, I don't, don't. I don't think it's a 119 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: big deal, but some people think it's very bizarre for 120 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: two ex's of the same person just communicate, do you No. 121 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 3: I'm with When I saw that, I'm like, what's what's 122 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: the big deal here? Like what's the beef? Because for me, 123 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: it goes to show you the growth of La La 124 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: and I know we're going to get into van the 125 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 3: pum rules. I am such a lalla fan. I think 126 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,119 Speaker 3: she's so mature. I think she's she has shown such 127 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: growth in her evolution as a woman that I really 128 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: do like her. So what that picture showed me was 129 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: she's a grown ass woman who gave a new meeting 130 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: to the word oceans eleven like, I'm here for it. 131 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: I was here for all the ocean. I was here 132 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: for the blending of the families. I think it's dope. 133 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: And they're sisters, Like, let's not forget that. Yes, they 134 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: are sisters. So like, if she didn't extend that invite, 135 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: if she didn't build that relationship with am but regardless 136 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: of what happened to them in the past, you're. 137 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: Screwing that up for your own kid, Yeah, and the 138 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: kid grow up blaming you. 139 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. So build those relationships even if it's hard, and 140 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: there's going to be highs and lows. And clearly they 141 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: didn't always get along and they had a rocky start, 142 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: but they have moved on. So I don't get what 143 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: the big deal is. I truly don't. And you got 144 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 2: me to move on this next one. Tom Sandoval details 145 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: decision to give sena thousands vander Pump Rules Pass Reacts. 146 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: This is a Bravo article here. Speaking alongside Tom Schwartz 147 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 2: on the vander Pump Rules after Show, Sandaval said he 148 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: chose to help Shena out during the pandemic for two 149 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: simple reasons. I knew Shina was struggling with money, and 150 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: she's my friend. I don't want it to be a 151 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 2: big deal with her either, he added, I want her 152 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: to literally forget it happened. What's more, I've done many 153 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: things like that for many people, Sandoval said, I don't 154 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: want people to think it's just me sort of buying 155 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: their loyalty or anything like that. Katie Maloney admitted on 156 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: Vana Popple's after show helping Sheena out was a really 157 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: nice and very generous thing to do, but at the 158 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: end of the day, she doesn't think it really speaks 159 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 2: to someone's character or how they're going to show up, 160 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: like thanks for the money, but also you're not a 161 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: good person. I don't see how that's just completely overshadows 162 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: or outweighs the damage and bullshit. I also am curious 163 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: is this a loan or a gift to me? There's 164 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: two very big differences. Financially, I don't loan money. I 165 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: don't you give if I am going to give, if 166 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: I want to. If I'm going to give somebody money, 167 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 2: I will assume it will never come back because if not, 168 00:09:55,720 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 2: it ruins friendships. It ruins relationships. If I make the 169 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 2: choice to do something, I'm looking at it as a gift. 170 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: Do you need your loan money? I have nine siblings, 171 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 3: so I think you're ash. I think the answer lies 172 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 3: with them. That you know what's funny boy me, Teddy, 173 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: I loan I'm a loan shark. So if I loan 174 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 3: you money, you have to tell me the date you're 175 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 3: paying me back. It could be a month from now, 176 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: a day from now, or a year from now. I 177 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 3: will keep the date on my calendar and then I 178 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 3: will then all you and say, hey, it's the thirteenth 179 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 3: of November, where's my money? 180 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: And if you don't pay me back, that's okay. 181 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 3: You can never ask me for money, and I won't 182 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 3: get an attitude. 183 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: I won't be mad. That's how I rolled. Okay, Well, 184 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 2: I can't respect that. But do you really not get 185 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 2: an attitude? Because most people I know that loans money 186 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: and then they expect to get it back. They made 187 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: for ten They don't get upset. My husband will loan 188 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: money like he does it and he acts like it's 189 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: going to be fine, and then he's always disappointed when 190 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: the person lets him down. See that's the thing. I'm disappointed. 191 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 3: But I already knew, upon cash apping selling you the money, 192 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 3: that there's a probability I would not get it back. 193 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 2: And if I do, I'm always like, oh, I'm always shocked. 194 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 3: Right, But I have a sibling, this is gonna be 195 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,599 Speaker 3: so crazy for you, Teddy. He borrows money from me 196 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 3: every week so and pays it back to me, but 197 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: then ask for it back two days later. And it's 198 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 3: to the point I said to him, just keep it. 199 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: How much money do you think you're into him? At 200 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: this point? 201 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: If I had to total how much money my family 202 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: owes me, yeah, I mean this is. 203 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 2: Not that I have it on my I don't hold 204 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: a grudge, but it's exactly what I have a post 205 00:11:54,640 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: a wall. But you know it's I'm a launch twelve 206 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 2: thousand dollars in total. See, I don't want to know 207 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: that number. I don't want to know it for myself. 208 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: I just want to look at it like a gift. 209 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: And then I don't want to ever. I don't want 210 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 2: my accountant to tell me about it again. I don't 211 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 2: want to talk about it again. Once it's given, it's 212 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: given and it's done, and I have to block it 213 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: out now. 214 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 3: I'm with you, but I walk like this about Tom's character, which, 215 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 3: by the way, lack thereof. If you loan someone money, 216 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 3: it's not for the world to know. I'm not going 217 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: to expose that to the world, right. 218 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 2: But he didn't expose it Sena did. Well. 219 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 3: There is the thing. I wouldn't even comment on it. 220 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 3: I would just be like, the thing for me is this, 221 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, you're a man, right, 222 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: And I feel like, as a man who loaned a 223 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 3: woman money with everything you said like you did it 224 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 3: because she's your friend, all those things, I wouldn't even 225 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 3: give it that much attention. You know, Lets Sheena do 226 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 3: what Sheena does, what she does best, create you know, 227 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 3: a moment and listen. 228 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 2: I'm not mad at it, but as a man, it's 229 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: sort of like, let her have it. 230 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: Not everything deserves a response, Tom, and you should know 231 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 3: that basically on the interviews you have done lately, well, 232 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 3: he could. 233 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: Have just said, of course, I love her, I do 234 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: anything for her. You know, whats it? That's it. You 235 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: don't need to say how many other people you've done 236 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: it for. You've done that, Like it just becomes. 237 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 3: You've done a lot to other people, Tom Sandival, You've 238 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 3: done people. 239 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: You've done a lot to people. You've been in people. Wow, 240 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: there's been good and there's been bad. But I also 241 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: want then it made me go down the rabbit hole. 242 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: Do you think he gave Rachel any money when she 243 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: needed it? 244 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 3: I think he gave her money for other things, if 245 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 3: you catch my drift. I think it was a nice 246 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: you know, I think it was. You know, hey, we're 247 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 3: about to have this reunion. How about we have this 248 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 3: same story. And I don't know there could be a 249 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: fee attached, you know. I definitely think listen, Tom is greasy, 250 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 3: and not because of his hair. 251 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: See, I don't. I think I think she was just 252 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: as down for as he was in the beginning. 253 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 3: In the beginning, but I think once it got exposed, 254 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 3: I think she had some Listen to me, I felt 255 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 3: she had some remorse, but she had to continue the 256 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 3: story that her man at the time said, we got 257 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 3: to stick to the script and that and that to 258 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: me is why I feel sorry for Rachel. 259 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: Well, if you had to pick, would you rather be 260 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: engaged to Tom Sandoval or to James Kennedy? Can I 261 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: tell your secret me you and the popper? The popper 262 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: is the popper offers, don't don't we haven't come over 263 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: the name Teddy. 264 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 3: I think James Kennedy is so sexy. I think he's 265 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 3: so hot. Let me tell you why he's such a badass. 266 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: I love the way he performed at the reunion and 267 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 3: how he was about to beat Tom's ass turned me 268 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 3: on so strong. 269 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: It was like it was like they gave me such 270 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: the egg. Now. 271 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 3: It was like he was in Greece and he was 272 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 3: playing John Travolta, and I was the blonde with the 273 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 3: with the scar in the black top, and I just 274 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: wanted to hot behind his bicycle so he could ride 275 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 3: me the sunset. 276 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely not. Couldn't this way, iHeart? Can you please find 277 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: me a different host for the rest of them? Well, 278 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: you sand between top scat the ball and I did 279 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: he answer that way? You know I was leading you. 280 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: I mean you could have just said, James, you wouldn't 281 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: own it a little deeper. But no one beats Tom Schwartz. Sorry, 282 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: we call it. By the way, we also from here 283 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: on out, you have to call Tom Schwartz Tom, It's 284 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: just Shorts. We call him Shorts. Okay. Wow. So this 285 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: next one is regarding the mid season trailer, so it 286 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: starts with Shorts. So Santava is not a trash person. 287 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: He just did a trash thing. Aria Anna questions this 288 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: with a trash thing, and then Shorts and Katie are 289 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: both seen making out with Sheena's nanny, Torri. Then Sandoval 290 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 2: looks to be asking Schwartz to move into his house 291 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: with him, which we know now has not happened, or 292 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: I don't think it's happened. Then James tell your boy. 293 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: James tells Ali that he sees having babies in their future, 294 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: and then she goes, you know what, I never see 295 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: I've never felt that. No, and then Sandoval jacks Jack 296 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: shows up, confronts Jack for talking shit and the whole 297 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: world has talked shit about you. Then Shena tells Brock, 298 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: I don't think you and I are going to be 299 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: together forever. I can't would have, and then arian and 300 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 2: Sandoval come face to face, with Ariana storming off telling 301 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: a producer he just wants thirty seconds for the audience. 302 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: He just doesn't care if I die in a ditch. 303 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: Santaval tells Lala, Shena and Shorts that Marianna has talked 304 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: shit about all you Well, of course you all have 305 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 2: talked shit about all of each other. And then Sheena 306 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 2: asked sand of all what she means to him, and 307 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: Sandoval says, she means a lot. You know what that 308 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: gave me. Remember when we were younger and we'd be like, 309 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: do you like me? Check yes, no, or maybe? And 310 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: they checked maybe, and then you're so embarrassed. I always 311 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 2: got checked yes, Ted, I don't know what you're talking about. 312 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 2: I got maybe twice and it was the same person. 313 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 2: And then he told me he likes Kate Seruno, but 314 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: if it didn't work out with Kate, then he'd come 315 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 2: back around me. That's what. It didn't work out with Kate, 316 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 2: then he came back around. I had moved on. I 317 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 2: was done with Gingers. That's right, girl, and you never 318 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 2: look back. I can retain that information from third grade 319 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 2: from Bradley Reagan, but like I can't remember, not the government. 320 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 3: Name Jesus listening, by the way, along with his wiping 321 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 3: two kids in the back seat playing Pokemon girl. 322 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: Oh well, he shouldn't have checked, maybe because he scarred me. 323 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 2: Then a couple years later, when he wanted to do 324 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: seven minutes in Heaven, I wasn't having it. You can 325 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 2: do it. Oh, I'd moved on. I was done. I 326 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 2: like trip by then. Oh my gosh. Okay. This last 327 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: sideline before we get into the episode is Rachel accuses 328 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: Lisa vander Pump of victim shaming and spreading propaganda to 329 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 2: whitewash Tom Sanval. The People article is here. Sometimes I 330 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: feel like if I were to use the word propaganda, 331 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,959 Speaker 2: somebody has written it for me. Sometimes I feel that 332 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: way about Rachel. 333 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 3: She has a publicist who has graduated with a degree 334 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 3: in journalism and social studies. So well, yeah, listen, you 335 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 3: can't blame Lisa Vanda Pump for this. And I know 336 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 3: that people want to blame her as this maniacal like person. 337 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 3: And I'm only talking about Vanda Pump Reules, not the 338 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 3: other show. My opinion, I listened, Tom did what he did, 339 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 3: He behaved the way he behaved. I don't think anyone 340 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 3: is to blame for the behaviors of the aftermath of 341 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 3: what happened but the person at the epicent term all 342 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 3: of this, and that's Tom. So give Lisa Vanda Pump 343 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 3: a pass on this one. 344 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, she said on her Rachel Goes Rogue podcast, 345 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: You're welcome that vander Fump knows exactly what she's doing. 346 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: Levis clarified that the video was recorded over a FaceTime 347 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 2: call and only learned of its existence when it was 348 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 2: sent to her. Levis confessed that vander Funk's public stance 349 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 2: doesn't feel good. This is my question about Rachel Goes Rogue. 350 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 2: Is she going to ever talk about something other than 351 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 2: Tom Sandfall and listen, I'm sitting chair recapping, popping off 352 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: about vander Pump rules. I get it, but I'm not 353 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: talking like if I spent an entire amount of time 354 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: solely talking about Lisa vander Pump every single episode, I 355 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 2: don't understand. I don't get it. We don't other things, honey, 356 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: there's nothing else to talk about. What what what was 357 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 2: was she eats for breakfast? 358 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 3: Or what peloton instructor she uses in the morning. Like 359 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 3: I don't get too sh about what Rachel does her 360 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 3: past time. 361 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: I want to know everything. Are you sure you're not 362 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: curious if it's Cody or Robin. Honey. For me, it's 363 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 2: Alex Tucson. If you really want to know my jam. 364 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: I like him, but sometimes I need the music. Sometimes 365 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 2: the music's like too chill for the peloton. Let's go. 366 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 2: You're right there, So now I think, listen, it's called 367 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: Rachel go rogue. She's going rogue. She's like you to 368 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 2: everybody involved in this show. 369 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 3: I am going to state my case because she did 370 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 3: not film last season, which bother ry Rachel I would 371 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 3: have definitely filmed, got my check and then quit, Like 372 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 3: who's representing you, honey, I. 373 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: Have sneaky suspicion. Well, no, now that this lawsuits, I 374 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: feel like we're going to see her somewhere else, Like 375 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 2: she'll be on like not House of Villains with the 376 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: marriage boot camp, Like where is she going to go? Well, 377 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. Now that the lawsuits involved, it makes 378 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: things a little trickier. But anyways, we're going to take 379 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 2: a quick break and we'll come back to recap episode 380 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 2: seven of Vanderpump Rules. We are about to talk about 381 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,479 Speaker 2: vander Pump Rules. I'm here with Carlos King because Emily 382 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: is out of town and I'm so happy to have 383 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: you here. Yes, the episode starts where everyone is back 384 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 2: from Tahoe. Tom arrives back at his house and Ariana 385 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 2: is there his assistant Anne. I love that Ann is 386 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 2: dressed up to go to the Barbie movie and like 387 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 2: gets embarrassed that shit, we're going to go there, because 388 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, what are we doing? But sandals. He feels 389 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 2: optimistic about the trip and there was not very many fights. 390 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: I was like, you know what that's like when I 391 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 2: go onto Twitter and I'm like, people like me. He's 392 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: the Lulu. He's He's definitely on the de Lulu side 393 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: of the world. But again, he likes to and I 394 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: do believe this about him. 395 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 3: He has created his own reality because he's not trying 396 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 3: to live in it. 397 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: It's too painful. Yeah, that makes sense, But him tiptoeing 398 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 2: into his house having this connversation with Ann, like all 399 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 2: of it. Then once again, Arianna has clothing all over 400 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 2: her bed everywhere. Why if you're not moving out, why 401 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: is there stuff everywhere? Can I tell you a very 402 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: unpopular statement. Sure, I am. 403 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: Over this, Arianna, Like, oh I got cheated on. You're 404 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 3: not the first woman to get cheated on. Like I'm 405 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 3: so over this sort of like whate is me? What 406 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 3: happened to you is bad and I was on your side, sister, 407 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 3: I'm not on your side anymore in the sense of 408 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 3: you keep telling this same story. Leave the house, you're 409 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 3: not married, you don't have any children, Move to Chicago, 410 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 3: learn some dance steps, and then go to New York 411 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 3: City and hop on Broadway going to dance with the stars. 412 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 2: We shgain till later. 413 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 3: I'm so sick and tired of Arianna acting. I say, 414 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: she's the only woman in the world that has been 415 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 3: cheated on. 416 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: See, that's not even the part that drives me nuts. 417 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: The part that really drives me nuts is please don't 418 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 2: question our I mean, granted, I'm not the smartest person 419 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 2: in the world, but I don't suggest that I have 420 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 2: zero intelligence by acting like. What you're trying to say 421 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: is if anybody films with this man, you don't want 422 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: to be friends with them, that you want him fire 423 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 2: And you know what, it didn't happen. It didn't happen. 424 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: So now everybody else wants to keep their jobs, so 425 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 2: of course they are going to film with them. So 426 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 2: just move on, do what you gotta do. Yes, you 427 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: can still be annoyed. You can still be frustrated. You 428 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: can still say you don't personally want to have conversations 429 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: with him, but you want your friends to lose their job. 430 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's because she has multiple jobs. It's because she 431 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 3: has multiple strengths and InCom she doesn't care about anyone 432 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 3: else but herself. 433 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: And again, I feel horrible for what happened to her. 434 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 3: Nobody should go through that, right, I mean, I'm not 435 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 3: going to talk about the fact that, allega, Lee, you 436 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 3: are a side chicked too, allegedly, but we'll get to 437 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: that on another time. 438 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: I watched the show, so, oh, that's you, Denise Richard's 439 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 2: of you watched the show. 440 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 3: And apparently sudden So then I'm just sort of like, 441 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 3: in order for this show to have life, you can't 442 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 3: have your friends not film with this guy. It's was 443 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 3: feeding their family, their dogs, paying their mortgages. And to me, 444 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,959 Speaker 3: it's not like they're officiating his wedding, you know, it's 445 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 3: not like they're throwing a party for him. They're literally 446 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 3: filming scenes with him and hanging out with him. Is 447 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 3: not that big of a deal. It's not that big 448 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 3: of a deal. And what it's doing because she has 449 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 3: the stances. It's making it very hard to like Katie. 450 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 3: Oh girl, now that Katie, honey Katie. 451 00:25:54,320 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: Because person I love Katie, so I know this, But 452 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 2: every time I've ever hung out with her in a 453 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: social setting, she has been funny and nice and self 454 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: deprecated like all the really capable. 455 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 3: No, no, let's be clear, I like Katie of all 456 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 3: the cast members. I will hang out I pick and 457 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 3: Wes Withthercy, Barbie with La La, and then I would 458 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 3: go to Tom Tom to like dance the night of 459 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 3: a with Katie, like Katie's my girl, Katie, I don't 460 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 3: know who's kool aid you've been drinking with the extra 461 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 3: ounce of sugar. 462 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 2: It makes no sense to me why she. 463 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 3: She really has like this hard on that this man 464 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 3: should be exiled from from the existence of West Hollywood 465 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 3: or Encino or or Calabasas. 466 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: And she is more. 467 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 3: Angry than Arianna girl, Like I don't understand the levels 468 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 3: because it's a difference. You should have a disdain for 469 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 3: him like I do. But it's the level of this 470 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 3: Dane that Katie has for him. The way she was 471 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 3: talking to La La. 472 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 2: Calmed down, but I started to realize what it's about 473 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 2: she blames Sandoval for why her and Shortz couldn't make it, 474 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: instead of blaming Shorts, instead of saying Schortz didn't have 475 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,239 Speaker 2: the balls to be the man I needed him to 476 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: be and grow up and treat me the right way, 477 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 2: And instead of saying it's because of him, she's sag. 478 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 2: And my guess is she thinks Sandoval was the influence 479 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 2: or the catalyst to create that bad behavior from Shorts. 480 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 3: Ladies, stop blaming your man's boy for his behavior. You 481 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 3: know you can't blame the influence of his friends for 482 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 3: what he did. Tom Schwartz is a brown ass man. 483 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 3: He knew what he was doing. I mean, let's be clear, 484 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 3: he hid the affair from the friend group, right, so 485 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 3: he's he's consciously aware of what's wrong or right. He 486 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 3: knew what he was doing, So take your anger out 487 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 3: on him. She's so and Katie, I love you. You're 488 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 3: so pretty. Behind me, You're coming across like a bitter Betty, 489 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 3: and I just think you need to hop on a 490 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 3: peloton bike along with Rachel and just like go dance 491 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 3: the night away from a twenty minute cycle. 492 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 2: I'm over it. I just feel like between this the 493 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 2: whole conversation when they're and even Sheena getting back into 494 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 2: like the Dancing with the Stars of it all, little girl, 495 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: that was hard whether she's having the conversation with the 496 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 2: fact that she's felt okay to have this conversation with 497 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 2: now three set different scenes, first with Laala, then with 498 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: vander Pump at Casa Rosa, then at the whatever the 499 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 2: restaurant is. It's on Beverly and I forget what his 500 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: name is where she had hooked up with the bartender 501 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: in two thousand and six. Go go many times, telling 502 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: it like we get it, but also I want to 503 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: be clear. My name has been up for Dancing with 504 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: the Stars a bunch of times too, Like your reps 505 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: can reach out to wherever. If I made the choice 506 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: tomorrow to start dance lessons without ever getting a job offer, 507 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: that's on me, Like I've never gotten an offer from 508 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars that I've turned down. If all 509 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 2: of a sudden tomorrow I don't know, sudden went on 510 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars. I couldn't be mad at Sutton 511 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: because he took this job from me. Offers are I 512 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: didn't have a job. Yeah, it's not this a thing. 513 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 3: It's not like you two went up on an audition 514 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 3: to that that Emma Stone one and being in right 515 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 3: like it's mad at Emma Stone and her broken dress 516 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 3: of the Oscars. This is Dance with the Stars the 517 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 3: way it works, Sheena girlfriend, everybody gets pitched for the 518 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 3: gig and they choose. Let's let's have a real conversation, 519 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 3: Teddy Joe, you get chosen based on your relevancy during 520 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 3: that season. 521 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 2: That's all it is. 522 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 3: Again, if Tom did not cheat on Arianna, none of 523 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 3: you girls would be on Dancing with the Stars. 524 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 2: It is what it is. So clearly she. 525 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 3: Got chosen because of the scandal, and that's it. 526 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 2: Granted. Then, Ariana was very talented and very good and 527 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 2: well loved her on Dancing with the Stars. I'm not 528 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 2: saying that she wouldn't be, but all of it seems 529 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: like they're just grasping for straws at this point. Everybody's 530 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 2: put up for a lot of jobs. Sometimes you get them, 531 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 2: sometimes you don't do I think it was like some 532 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: kind of diss that Ariana took this job that she 533 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: knew she Da wanted. All of us in reality television 534 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 2: are going to take jobs other people wanted. At some 535 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 2: point in time, everybody's getting pitched and we all want money. 536 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: I mean, that's it. Then we get to Ariana and 537 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 2: La La getting coffee together. Ariana shows Lalla pictures. I 538 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 2: mean they're just really just trying to dig it for Ariana, 539 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: just really make her unlikable, like her showing the photos 540 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 2: from her photo shoot, her doing like then Lala defend 541 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: Sheena for getting ripped apart on Instagram, then Ariana saying 542 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: she wouldn't actually do anything. Pretty much what Lala is 543 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 2: doing is saying, I'm not going to let this season 544 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: flop and I will put every bit of work I 545 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 2: need to to make sure it doesn't. 546 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 3: And we call that force multiplier and we needed it. 547 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 3: We needed it. Listen, I am obsessed with Lala this 548 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 3: season because she's calling shit out the way she sees it. 549 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 3: And again she also notices this the way her and 550 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 3: my man James Kennedy took up for Arianna at the reunion, 551 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 3: like they gave it to Tom deservingly. Tom. 552 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 2: It was about their past relationships and residual anger towards. 553 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 3: That one hundred, but of course it was to show 554 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 3: Arianna like, yeah, girl, we have your back. So when 555 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 3: we get another season, girl, like, you know, we want 556 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 3: to come back to because you need friends. And I 557 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 3: think La La, who's a smart business woman, I think 558 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 3: she understood, like you're really milking this story a lot. 559 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 3: With the stage photo shoots with Ken Pays. 560 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: Doing your hair, I'm assuming it bad. I was like 561 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: Jessica Simpson's hair guy. Yes, girl, I Hollywood Kitchen. 562 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 3: Yes, Ken Pavis did your hair, and it was I 563 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 3: think Laala is sort of like she woke up and said, 564 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 3: Ariana is milk. 565 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 2: Eate this shit and I'm over it. 566 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 3: Like at some point to your point, Teddy, the show 567 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 3: has to go long because the fear is this A 568 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 3: lot of people are afraid that this may be the 569 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 3: last season of the show just because of how this 570 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 3: jointed the cast is. And I think Laala knew that 571 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 3: this show had a second win in life and she 572 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 3: really wants this to have staying power. 573 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we can't they can't just harbor on this 574 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 2: over and over and over again, which they then do 575 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 2: when they go to the restaurant where Arion is not 576 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 2: even there at this point, it's just Katie, Lala, Shena 577 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 2: and then the girl from last year that was pregnant. 578 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 2: That's not pregnant now because she ordered an espresso martini. 579 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: That was my take from the entire episode. But that's 580 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 2: all I was like, Oh, she's drinking again. I guess 581 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 2: she's not pregnant anymore. Like that's what happened. Well, she 582 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 2: had a baby, but like they don't show it. Just 583 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 2: bring her back in, not like how's the baby? Nothing, 584 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 2: no mention. We just happen to bring her back into 585 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 2: our lives as if we like, give us, give her something, 586 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 2: like have her pushing the stroller and hand it to 587 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 2: her husband, Like give us something when she comes Like nope, 588 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 2: she's just there. No one asked her one question about herself, 589 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: her life. One cares, No one cares. But then Christina, 590 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 2: she's like, I'm gonna get my I'm gonna get baby 591 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 2: my day right here. Christina as Shena if Sandoval was 592 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 2: more sad to lose his friendship with Sheena than Arianna, 593 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 2: and she says yes, because he was so miserable with Ariana. 594 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 2: They compare the situation of Jackson. Brittany Lala says he 595 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 2: is still running around town even though he's married. This 596 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 2: is the perfect segue to the valley. They're like, here, 597 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 2: you go because they're all friends. They did that nicely. No, 598 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 2: it was good, it was good. No, they're they're they're 599 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 2: the best at it. 600 00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 3: But yeah, it was Listen that little ponderosa the girls had, 601 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 3: I thought it was so telling to just based on 602 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 3: like how in sechuous the group is. But yeah, like 603 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 3: I said, I really appreciated, you know, the conversation because 604 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 3: it goes show you that when it comes to these relationships, 605 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 3: it could change at the drop of a dying Yeah. 606 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 2: But also I'm a little bit I do wonder, especially 607 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 2: because the sandwich something about her hasn't opened yet or 608 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 2: anything like that. I am worried that at the end 609 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 2: of the day, the way that Katie rides so hard 610 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 2: girl for Ariana, would Arianna do the same for her 611 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 2: because she's ten past years. Like Arianna sat there, why 612 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 2: Shortz was saying terrible things to Katie and not that 613 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 2: she didn't say terrible things back to him, but like 614 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 2: it wasn't like she had this big fight for her 615 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 2: that I can recall. 616 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 3: No, listen, in this episode, listen, I know, I maybe 617 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 3: getting a hint and a sun op bring a bait, 618 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 3: but Arianna kind of showed what type of friend she is, 619 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 3: and the way she led Sheena out there to dry 620 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 3: you know, like the way she did not like have 621 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 3: her back publicly. Let me tell you something. I have 622 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 3: been producing reality for almost twenty years. Trust me when 623 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 3: I tell you listeners, when a cast member, and you 624 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 3: know this very well, Teddy Jose, you tell me if 625 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 3: I'm wrong. There's a few cast members, There's two, particularly 626 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 3: in Bibley Hills. 627 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 2: Who really feed into the fandom. 628 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 3: And the way they act on camera is because they're 629 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 3: thinking about what the fans are going to say. And 630 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 3: that's what Arianna was doing. So she already showed me, 631 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 3: honey with talper friend she is, She's not anyone's friends. 632 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 3: She's the only person she spriends with. Last named Fargo, 633 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 3: first named Welles. 634 00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 2: Well. I mean, it's going to get a little it's 635 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 2: gonna get a little dicey, I think as it continues on. 636 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 2: But I also want to know why do we think 637 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 2: the bartender wouldn't sign a release because they didn't show 638 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 2: his face? 639 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 3: I mean, this is gonna sound slow shady, as Sheena 640 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 3: apologize in advance, it has nothing to do with you, girl, 641 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 3: not really. I think he was like, do I want 642 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 3: the world to know a bang shena like, I just 643 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 3: I just don't think he'd wanted that out there, you know, 644 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 3: like I. 645 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 2: Mean you got to be like you. He's probably on 646 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 2: here because he wants to be an actor first. So 647 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 2: for him to say, I don't want my face shown, girl, 648 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 2: I'm telling you this. Can I do the math? And 649 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 2: then I think two thousand and six, how many years 650 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 2: ago was that? That is? 651 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 3: Add the one plus the two. Now that's nineteen years ago. 652 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 2: So nineteen years ago? Are we guessing he was the 653 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 2: bartender at sir when they when this happened, I was like, 654 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 2: where where is the time gone? And how do you 655 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 2: That's my point. When he walked when she walked in, 656 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 2: like a shit of all the shifts to get into 657 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 2: I got this ship. By the way, you could tell 658 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 2: he was Hodges base on his arms. I just like 659 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 2: she she knows a baddie baby. But she tried to 660 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 2: like lighten the mood, but Katie wasn't having it. Maybe 661 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 2: it is a sower pust this season. I don't like it. 662 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: Well. 663 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 2: Then Lisa goes to Tom Tom or of course the 664 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 2: pump gate has been installed a frontad Santaval tells her 665 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 2: Taha is great. He is worried about Rachel and he 666 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 2: misses her. But then this is where Lisa does her 667 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 2: best work, where she pretty much says, I spoke to 668 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 2: Rachel and Rachel's done and you see his face like 669 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 2: But also, how does Lisa know this before Tom? How 670 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:56,839 Speaker 2: the dog told her Hippy Lucia, We'll just see they 671 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 2: all look together. These dogs talk shit about every They 672 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 2: all talk shit about everybody in the kennel. So Lisa, listen. 673 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 3: Lisa Vanda Pump obviously loves the chest pieces. 674 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 2: Right in the words of our friend. 675 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 3: Kyle, she is Bobby Fisher to me, and that's not 676 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 3: a diss so leave me alone. 677 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 2: It goes to show you how smart you are. Thank you. 678 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 3: So she Lisa Vanda Pump never wants to be on 679 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 3: the on the on the side of wrong, so of 680 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 3: course she in my opinion, she wanted it was less 681 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:37,439 Speaker 3: about Tom girl. 682 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 2: It was more about the world. 683 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 3: Knowing that I keep in touch with Rachel and you know, 684 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 3: I talked to her and I come saw her and 685 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 3: her friends, you know all those things. It was more 686 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 3: to let the audience know that she has a relationship 687 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 3: with this woman, which apparently she doesn't because Rachel went 688 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 3: bro and said, y'all don't. 689 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I think what was happening was they were 690 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 2: in negotiations with Rachel at this time, and so Lisa 691 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 2: probably talked to her. But also she couldn't have just 692 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,879 Speaker 2: said she's done with you, Tom. She had to say 693 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 2: she doesn't love you anymore. I mean, like, can't you 694 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 2: leave that for somebody else to tell? Like she's done 695 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,280 Speaker 2: with you would have been fine, but like, she doesn't 696 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,399 Speaker 2: love you anymore. But Lisa had a couple good little 697 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 2: nuggies which I appreciated, not only the pump sign out front, 698 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 2: which is which is a clear message to the Toms, 699 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 2: you know who the real boss is, but then also 700 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,879 Speaker 2: saying I don't need to let up two point five 701 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 2: percent partner. Know these types of things. 702 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 3: Absolutely Now who gets a two point five review on yeop? 703 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 3: So Lisa is all about business and she knows that 704 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 3: you aren't somebody I want to align myself with. And 705 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 3: you're right, I'm the boss and I will remain the boss. 706 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 2: But the fact that she was able to turn that 707 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 2: two point five percent partnership into an entire season long 708 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 2: a couple of years back really shows the excellent of 709 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 2: how she can move the pieces. She's great. Listen, you 710 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 2: gotta give it to Lisa. She is great and she 711 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 2: sent this episode a lot. Then she meets Lala at 712 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 2: her office with her assistant. This part, I'm happy for 713 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 2: la La, but I don't really think there's anything we 714 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 2: need to recap. She's rebranding, she's her new she's she's stronger. 715 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 2: She sees a different side of her that's less about her. 716 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 2: This next part is a jump scare. What Joe's confessional? 717 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 2: What is happening? Because Joe is It's more just like 718 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 2: there was like one little barette here, And I'm not 719 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 2: shaming how she aesthetically looks. I think she's a pretty Listen, 720 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 2: I think she's pretty. AKA people have told me I 721 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 2: look like her. 722 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 3: I probably like her tool put the barrette on the side, 723 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 3: and like all of it was just a lot for 724 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 3: me to take in. 725 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 2: Like Kenny, it was a lot. 726 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 3: Of the producer, the DP or the lightning guy for 727 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 3: everybody to take it. 728 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 2: That's when you know you're doing too much. But also 729 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 2: how tall is she? Like is she's seven to one? 730 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,720 Speaker 2: She kept seeing the tall people side, the tall side. 731 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, I've been her on shorts. He's not that tall. 732 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 2: You're not taller than shorts, So like, are you my height? 733 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 2: I'm five to three. If I kept calling myself tall, Like, 734 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 2: how tall are you? Joe? I need to know? Send 735 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 2: me a DM lease. Oh she will after this, baby, 736 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 2: don't worry like I just need to know how tall 737 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 2: are you? Why is it such a problem? But yeah, 738 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 2: and then yeah, I mean, I just I can't. I 739 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 2: can't get over to the confessional. Joe looks like I 740 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 2: do when I'm leaving the horse show and I'm tired 741 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 2: and I'm done and I'm exhausted. I put what my 742 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 2: daughter's bred in my hair so I don't lose it, 743 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:09,720 Speaker 2: and then I show up, I'm wind blown, hangover. Actually, 744 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,800 Speaker 2: Joe looks like me right now on this podcast. 745 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 3: No, daddy, you're the fan. You look much better. No shade, 746 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 3: you look good, pink background and all. 747 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 2: Yes, Okay. Then the last week we get to their 748 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 2: final scenes, which is James, Schwartz, Santaval and Brock go 749 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 2: to I think It's the Stinking Rose or whatever it is, 750 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 2: where you turn the thing upside down when you're done eating. 751 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,399 Speaker 2: They have this meat eating competition which actually grosses me out. 752 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 2: I don't need I like a good meat eating Wow. Hey, 753 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 2: I stand by my original statement. But they're talking about 754 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 2: how the girls are all doing astrology night, which then 755 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 2: we zip on over to the girls all sitting around 756 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 2: with Ali, who I like, Yeah, but I don't. I've 757 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 2: been I've been a part on TV a couple of 758 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,240 Speaker 2: times where you're getting your astrology read or you're rising 759 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 2: things and all of that. But I really do have 760 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 2: a hard time like suspending my belief that, like you're 761 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 2: not taking some sort of outside information. It's like me 762 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 2: saying I watched Beverly Hills and I'm not biased. Now listen, 763 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 2: that's very true. 764 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 3: There is a level of insight, right, Yeah, and that's 765 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 3: why it's hard, especially you know, if they if they 766 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 3: choose to be on camera. I think that's kind of 767 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,399 Speaker 3: maybe the giveaway to Yeah, but. 768 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,280 Speaker 2: I mean, this is Ali's profession. But she's like telling 769 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 2: everybody things we already know where I'm like, you hang 770 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 2: out with them, of course you're, Oh, that's because you're 771 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 2: Cabricorn rising. But I mean it was good. It was 772 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 2: a fine episode. I like how they have it all 773 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 2: ready to queue up with Jackson next week's episode and 774 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 2: then leading right into the valley. Do you think the 775 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 2: Valley is going to be better than vander Pump rules. 776 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,919 Speaker 3: No, he's the easy answer. Nope, thought needed one brain 777 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 3: cell activated. No, I don't look. I just I just 778 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 3: don't see it because the leads aren't the most likable 779 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 3: people in the world. So I just don't know if 780 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,240 Speaker 3: I this is being teddy. I don't know if I care. Well, listen, 781 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 3: I could be wrong. But here's the thing. 782 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 2: One of the leads, uh Nia, I know her because 783 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 2: we go to church together, and she is like and 784 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 2: she could be fooling me, but to my in my experience, 785 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 2: she has been nothing but like nice and kind and 786 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 2: like she's a pageant girl, but like she has always 787 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 2: been super super nice, and her husband has has been 788 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 2: very very nice. And then all of a sudden they 789 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,919 Speaker 2: called him something like his flit personality or his other 790 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 2: So I feel like there's going to be some drama. 791 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 2: But I just don't know if I'm going to care. 792 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 3: I know that couple, Yeah, I just I just don't 793 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 3: know if I care not and listen, this is my 794 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 3: opinion could be unpopular. I don't know if I care 795 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 3: about this season of Vanda palm rules. I think the 796 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 3: shock of the scandal led all of us back into 797 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 3: this season, and it hasn't all the time lived up 798 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 3: to the hype. Not all the time. I thought this 799 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 3: past episode's fine. It was definitely better than most I 800 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 3: saw this season. 801 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 2: But I don't know. I just I would be interested. 802 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 2: I would be more interested to hear why, like Shina 803 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 2: doesn't think that she is going to make it with Brock, 804 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 2: Like those types of conversations is where we have to lead. 805 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 2: What Longa's plan is now that she's going to have, 806 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 2: Like I hope that's where this season and is going 807 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 2: to go to, like how she selected the sperm donor 808 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 2: all of those types of things, you know, if she 809 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 2: wants to be in another relationship, what the plan was. 810 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 2: But I think when we saw the clip of Laala 811 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 2: saying once she is pregnant again, she doesn't want to 812 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 2: give any man the power to take away her child, 813 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,919 Speaker 2: which I think, I thought that was powerful. I thought 814 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,760 Speaker 2: that was so powerful and it's something I hadn't really 815 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 2: thought of in that way when I was here, and 816 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 2: I was like, Holy, that's true. You have to share 817 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,280 Speaker 2: your weekends, you have to share your like your holidays 818 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 2: and that's hard. Yeah, listen, all jokes aside. 819 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 3: My favorite moment of the episode is that because you 820 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 3: know you and I we like the real shit, you know, 821 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 3: not the not the made for TV stuff. I And 822 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 3: even in her confession though, where she teared up, I 823 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 3: by far my favorite moment. 824 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 2: It was so real and it hit me like a 825 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 2: ton of breaks. It really did. And that's why I 826 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 2: care more about Shena and Brock than I do about 827 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 2: Shina being on Dancing with the Stars because or like 828 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 2: the picture on the website of the holding being next 829 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 2: to Tom, like, I don't care. Yeah, And to be honest, 830 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 2: I don't really care about Shorts and Katie hooking up 831 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 2: with the same chick. Don't care neither. That's what I'm 832 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 2: saying to you. I want us to get some news. 833 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 2: I do. I wouldn't mind seeing Joe get upset, though, 834 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 2: because nobody really, no girl really wants to be a 835 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 2: friends with benefits. 836 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 3: No, And even when it was exposed in the confessional, 837 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 3: the difference of stories or. 838 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 2: How they thought about each other. Yeah, no, Like I 839 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 2: wouldn't mind seeing her blow a little on that. I'm 840 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 2: fine with it. Let's go. Thanks for tuning into Popping Off, 841 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 2: make sure to tune in. Next week we will be 842 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:47,280 Speaker 2: covering van pump rules in the Valley