WEBVTT - Episode 203 w/ Jaz-O 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:16.120 And his Drink Chats motherfucking podcast Mason, he's a legendary 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:18.640 Queen's rapper. He's agreed, it's your boy in o R. 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.919 He's a Miami hippoper lioneer. One up is d j 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:24.560 e f N. Together they drinking up with some of 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:29.720 the biggest players in the most professional unprofessional podcast and 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:34.280 yet number one source for drunk back drinks. Motherfucks New year' z. 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:45.479 That's time for drink champs. Trick up? Motherfuck? Would it 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:47.960 could be hopelet's this is your boy in O R. 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.519 What up his dj e FN. That's middle to me, 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:54.680 crazy Royal radio drink chaps, yappy y'all. Motherfucker. Look dude, 0:00:54.720 --> 0:01:00.120 how are you gonna do? Makes up? Right now? When 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.960 you talk about one of the originators, one of the 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:06.040 people that has been there, still still this test of time, 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:08.759 still ill here, monkey foot in the game, got an 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.600 ill distribution deal right now, we're gonna get into all 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:14.320 of that. I'm getting into how they got there. But 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:16.800 the man has been doing it. He's frong. We've seen him. 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:18.800 The first time I've seen New York niggas in London 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:21.920 is with him. First time I see New York city, 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:25.200 niggas go something where other than even from ship even 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:28.080 I see them in Virginia. That was like Jesus, that 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:32.040 was like, you know, that's Virginia was like fucking Jamaica. 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:34.440 Like I thought you needed a passport to go to 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.440 Virginia at that time. Like the man has been true 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:40.440 to hip hop, has been one of the most lyrical 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:44.160 guys here. I've seen him. I'm kicking Rome the other 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:47.080 day and he still got it. But the beautiful thing 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:50.240 about is the relationship that you know, you know from 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:53.000 from the beginning and and you know even the termorial 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:57.960 to now where they at. I um, I what is 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.600 that applaud that I commend that I loot that you 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:01.920 know what I'm saying to see where they are, and 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:05.920 the fact that people from Title's going hard for this. 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:08.280 I was really, I really think that's commendable. Man, you 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:09.840 know what I'm saying all these years. But in case 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:15.920 you don't know what we're talking about, motherfucking jazz. So 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:18.560 one thing about googled you right, you had you had 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:25.400 you have a neighbor um Eric Oliver. Yeah, Eric, that 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:27.040 was the first person to tell you should write away. 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:30.400 Did your research money because you know, why that name is. 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.600 Listen to what I said. I said, that's a director's 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:37.400 name in my mind, like that's just sound like somebody 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:40.040 who's gonna direct Bad Boys five and Ship but ahead. 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:41.760 So so, how does the person come up to you 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:43.480 and says, yeo, I think you should write a ride? Well, 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.400 you know basically, um And how old were you when 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:50.520 when he said this ship? Well he was about he 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:55.480 was about nine, so I was I was like yeah. 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:57.840 And it was around the time where you know they was, 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:01.280 you know, taking the electricity from the light pole having 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:04.240 you know, so you know he got the music out, 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.840 just cat Lenney Morgan from the building every time they 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:10.520 had the music out, Like I think, it was just crazy. 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:13.040 He's just he was good, good, crazy, you know what 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.920 I'm saying. He just run through the lane. So I'm like, jo, 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.839 they got the music out, they got the music out. 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:27.160 So yes, that's exactly so um So Eric Oliver actually 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.560 lived on the fifth floor. I lived on the sixth 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:34.080 floor and six park at and his mother and my 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:37.720 mother were very very good friends. So one day he 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:40.080 was like, man, yo, you see how they'd be rhyming 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:41.720 on the mic. You know you should rhymb on the 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:43.480 mic just like that. I was like making out on 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:46.480 my face. You know, He's like, I'm telling you, I'm 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:48.840 telling you the mic. I bet you kid. So he 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:53.080 did the reverse psychology ship on me. I bet you can't. Yeah, 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:54.880 so can you remember the guys that were rhyming on 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.640 the mic that he was telling you should be like them? Uh, 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:02.880 way way back then, if you were a DJ, you 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:05.640 more than likely you were an MC two. When you've 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:16.040 got somebody back then, back then the DJ. But I 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:21.120 wouldn't be here, it wasn't I remember like actually actually 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.680 being like the second like that's why Eric B and 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.080 Rock Kemp right right, but continue to continue. Yeah, so 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:29.919 he you know, so he did the reverse psychology ship 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:32.560 on me. So you know, my ego got the best 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:34.479 of me. And so I wrote an eight ball run 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:36.640 and he was like, yo, you should say that you 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.039 should do this, this down and the other. So you know, 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:42.200 I kept it quiet, you know, but secret you know, 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:45.839 secretly I was right more. I saw ascribing more ship. 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:50.800 So um, then it happened that, um we went Red 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:56.040 Hook Projects and uh, one of my boys are Ronald Henley. 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.720 He's calling ron do. Um. We used to always go 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:03.120 and because his uncle Mango. Everybody got to have a 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.200 nicker name wrong dude, Like, if you're from the front, 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:14.839 you don't have a nicker name. Wrong. Ex don't ye 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.640 like this. We're going let's go there. So so Uncle 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.279 so Uncle Mango. You know, he used to do house 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.440 parties a thing else. So one night we went out 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.839 the Red Hook and he was doing a house party. 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:29.640 So I, man, Ron put me on the spot. He 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:31.400 was like, yo, don't you be rhyming and ship. I 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.200 was like, now, I don't really be rhyming and ship, 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.080 but I was. He was like, go ahead, man, because 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:37.880 you know how the house party was set up, the 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:41.440 DJ set up was in the bedroom and everybody was 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:43.159 in the living room, you know, and they had the 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:47.040 extension call all that ship. So anyway, so I started, 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:50.279 I started rhyming. Then we started hearing the reacts and 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:56.440 they're like whoa. My head said like I got two 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.720 three more. So I just went at it and that's 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:03.560 what really started it. So what what you um was 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.360 that prior to you going to Virginia going to college 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:10.839 or that was after that? Was that was before? Okay? Okay, 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:13.400 so you was in college already and you must have 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.280 been like man, uh because but at that time, I'm 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:18.880 gonna be honest and I'm sorry for Virginia people. But 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:20.640 at that time, if you was from New York, he 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:24.159 was like from Brazil. Like we was excited to Virginia 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:27.039 and boredom are because like we had to slang. So 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:29.120 it must have been like good for you out there 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:32.599 in Virginia. Most definitely, most definitely. Um I went to 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:36.880 um Old Domenion University for two years, and um, I 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:40.919 really I really went to college for my mom and 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:44.159 for my grandmother because I damn sure wasn't going for myself. 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:45.840 I didn't want to go. You know what I'm saying. 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:49.520 I was, I was, I was in the street. You know, 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:52.719 I wanted to rhyme. I wanted to do everything is said. 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.800 You know what they said right like somewhat because like 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.279 I went through your good thing is I was sick yesterday, 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:00.320 so I had a great long time to to stay 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.440 in the bed and just go through your ship. Is 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.320 that when you get your vocal vocabulary from Is that 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.360 something that helped it was going to college or something 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:10.440 like that, or um I think you had that prior. Yeah, 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:13.040 it was my mom. Okay, we'll be honest, yeah, it 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:16.720 was my mother because like, um, I told his story before, 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:21.040 but like she used to always, um, just introduce new 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.840 words to me, like um, like one day I was 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:29.200 either five or six and I was being silly and 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.720 she was like, oh, Johnny, you're being so facetious. I 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:36.240 was like, you know what's like? So you know, and 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:38.240 I and she already knew I was very inquisitive, so 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.240 I always asked her like what does that mean? How 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.600 do you use with you know everything? So it just 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.120 went on like that. So I always and she knew 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.800 I was gonna I was gonna dive in because I 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.640 was always asking her questions anything. Like I used to 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:54.600 ask a ship like what does nothing look like? You 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:56.600 know what I'm saying? And she said and she'd be like, 0:07:57.000 --> 0:08:00.440 and I was five, I was yeah, yeah, that's it 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.840 blown me away right now? What does nothing look like? Wow? 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:08.000 That's you think that's what makes artists? Because so many 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:11.720 people right right UM, I don't remember who exactly it was, 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.200 but it was like high school dropout, right and then 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:16.680 everyone kind of like at that moment, like especially in 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:19.760 the eighties, nineties, early nineties, everyone was claiming that there 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.400 was high school dropouts. But now, now, if you would 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:25.760 pay attention to that, this generation, those high school dropouts 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:29.880 of our generation, that generation has made the dumbest children ever. 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:36.160 For this generation. You're not sorry, but you understand, do 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:37.880 you do you feel like we fail them? Like we 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.240 are direct the Senate because when you hear these niggas 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:43.240 right nowadays, you're like, damn, they definitely didn't go to 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:52.360 miss Ebanks class. Definitely studies. I think, yeah, yeah, I 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:55.920 think that. Um, I think that we we we are 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:59.280 definitely a part of the failure, but we were sort 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:01.840 of like an knowing part of the failure. I think 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:05.840 that the failure or if you want to call it, that, 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:10.839 it was a gradual thing over over really like decades, 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:15.320 you know, decades of us um you know, becoming um, 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:18.559 you know, coming to the cities, you know, coming from 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:31.480 self destruction to drink something like yeah, because I mean 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:33.280 we you know, when I came out, you know, I 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:37.120 was talking about Islam. You know what I'm saying, black 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:44.520 unity exactly. And it's just crazy like somebody said it, like, um, 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:48.199 I saw it on Facebook. Actually what they said. Um. 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:50.720 You know, in the in the late eighties and nineties, 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:54.559 you know, you had the um. You had the the 0:09:55.280 --> 0:10:02.280 rappers who really talked about being drug dealers down us 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:05.520 and crowded it though flip like like a right cool. 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.120 Not to compare them to crackheads, but our day not 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:11.800 to compare themself. So good, you just compared, you know, 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:15.440 I'm sorry, right, So what I'm saying in our day, 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.360 crack was the ship. Hold on, let me finish it out. 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:22.240 What I mean is this ship and only assholes was 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:25.400 actually smoking smoking it, like at first when it first 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:29.120 came out, and motherfucker smoked in motherfucker's and because you 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:31.240 know it was cocaine, was cool at first, and then 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:33.560 mother smoke crack. And then when people feel like you're 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:37.439 a victim, you're fucking you're addict. It has songs. We 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:40.360 had mirrors in the hood, crack kills all this. That 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:42.439 is the exact opposite. They have mirrors in the hood 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:44.599 with people with double cups, and they have mirrles in 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:48.400 with people with percocet, and like that. It's perpetuate that 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.640 I never listened. I have a lot of nerves because 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:53.400 I'm sitting here with all this alcohol with a blood 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:55.760 in my hand, and I'm about to open some ace 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:59.760 of Spade. But what I'm saying, I hadn't I never 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.160 hip hop, well dumb will be just dumb, like and 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:04.839 don't I don't want to say that dumb because the 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:08.319 kids there's a lot of dope artists, but the kid 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:11.040 these kids, Um, I'm making great money and I got 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.000 to salute that. But I'm saying when I say dump 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.599 dump the content being so dumbed down that you know 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:18.120 what I mean, like, um, do you think that that 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.040 that we would be at this level of hip hop? 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:26.800 Na is crazy? Yeah, And I got to say this, 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:30.319 and I say it often like you know, um, as 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:33.880 far as the skills set and the you know, the 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.480 basic like the level is far set in the ball 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:40.640 as far as like songs and stuff like. But I mean, yeah, 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:42.839 that niggas that was trash back when of course, you 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.240 know what I'm saying. So a lot of people, you know, 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:48.480 they want to rally the troops and say, like, you know, 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:52.280 this was the Golden Age and everything that came out 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:56.120 was crazy hot and now everything is everything is trash 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.480 And that's not the case. I mean, it's you got 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:02.240 that ship regardless, you know. But there's a difference, like 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:05.680 the differences that you're talking about, And it's the amount 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.480 of artists to now because everybody could be an artists 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.360 because they could record their crib and it's just like 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:12.959 you have millions of arts. Before there was a funnel. 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.240 You got to get in the studio, you had someone 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.760 to put your man's on into the label and then 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:21.040 they put you out. It's limited were now everybody's an artist. 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.760 Right now. I'm just bouncing around because that's what we're doing. 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.000 Drink chance down now. One of the things I would 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:29.120 have I want to ask, it's like when when Jay 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.280 and Nas was going through that right and there's a 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:34.480 certain time and I believe he said from Hawaiian Sophie 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:37.240 Fame or something like that, how did that make you feel? 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:40.400 Because I don't know how. I just how did they 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:45.800 make it? It was awkward, But it was awkward because um, 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:56.840 I was accused of, you know, giving Nas information. It's like, yeah, yeah, 0:12:56.880 --> 0:13:00.920 I thank you for keeping it real and and me 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.000 and No, we didn't talk like that. You know, we 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:07.079 had great Paul, but we didn't you know, we didn't talk. Um. 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.679 So I was accused of that because people were saying, 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:11.600 like people in the circle, they were saying like well 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:13.040 how did he know this? How did he know that? 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.280 I was like, he saw it, you know what I'm saying. 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.160 You know, when I was signed the e M I, um, 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:20.520 we did a college So, by the way, the first 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:25.760 hip hop artist signed to just say that, just skip over, 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.000 we don't get it. That's the first hip hop artist. 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:33.960 Chili Peppers and niggas like that, right, were different niggas 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:38.600 deal at all. Like we'll get to that, but let's 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:42.040 go into the wow. Okay. Yeah, So you know it 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.960 was a situation whereas um, you know, they said, well, 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:46.720 how did he know all that? And I was like, well, 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:48.960 you know, we want a college store. Like he didn't. 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:51.160 He didn't stay on the tour, but you know, he 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:54.080 came out for main sorts. He came out, you know, 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:58.120 for large professor when they did exactly. So we went 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.640 in Norfolk State. That's where I'm met now, you know 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.120 what I'm saying. And he got on stage and they 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:07.040 did the song and you know, me and J was 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:10.840 standing there. Me was like, yeah, this dude, he's gonna 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.760 be something, you know what I'm saying. Like that, we 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:16.320 we went analysts that like that's how we did everything, 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:21.960 Like we watched everything, but so I lost my thought. 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:29.680 Yeah he was the accused of giving Yeah, so that's 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:34.400 just pretty good. Yeah, so I was accused of that, 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:38.760 and I didn't give him any information, like and I 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:45.080 mean no, because I mean everybody who really knew me, 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.040 they know I ain't that type of you know what 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.640 I'm saying. And if I got something to tell you 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.560 that you may not like, I feel that in the 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:56.760 greater or or in the big picture. If it's something 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.960 that I feel it's beneficial to your well being, I'm 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:01.960 tell you anywhere. You ain't gotta like me. I don't 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:03.720 need you to like me. I don't give a funk. 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:06.160 If I love you, if I care about you, then 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:08.520 I care about your well being. You can hate my guts, 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:10.360 you know what I'm saying. I don't care. I live 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:13.320 with that because I don't. I don't breathe and eat 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:15.640 and pay my bills off or whether you love me 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.680 or that, So I don't need it. What I do 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.240 need is to be myself and my self determined that 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:25.280 I love everybody. So just to to to go back 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.280 to that, like, yeah, I was accused of that ship 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:31.240 and um, I think in a way that caused a 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.600 little friction between you know, I was, yes, sort of 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:38.160 like the beginning of things. Yeah, okay, so we're gonna 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:40.320 get back to that because bounce around, because how did 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:44.440 it fail to be um the first person on first 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:47.120 hip hop on E M I because now the group 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:49.960 now when people say A M if you think of uh, 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:51.800 you know, I think Ray Kuan had to deal over there. 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.760 Now you think of that. But obviously if you're the 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.480 first hip I wasn't first from your neighborhood. No, this 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:02.200 is first hip hop deal from THEE Yeah, I was 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:06.360 the first, same thing. Yeah, so it was It was weird, 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:11.320 and you know, I felt like what I was fucking 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:15.840 guinea pig when I was like yeah, because they didn't 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:18.440 see the thing is this they didn't really know what 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:21.840 to do. They just knew like they saw cold chilling 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:26.120 at the time they started. They wanted to be involved quiet, 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:28.320 you know, cold chilling and all that other stuff. So 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:32.680 they're like, yo, that's popping for them. Let's do the eighties. 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:38.040 Yeah eight eight eight mm hmm getting money since eight? 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:46.880 What up? What up? So you felt that they didn't 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:50.760 understand Now, they didn't understand it all. And and the 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:54.680 thing is they I was being promoted and marketed through 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:59.280 the Urban Music Department, which actually they called it the 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:05.200 Black Black Music Promotions Department. Yeah so yeah, they weren't 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:13.320 even politically correct back then, you know what I'm saying. 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:22.080 So so um so yeah it was crazy. Um. After 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:25.679 a couple of years, um, a man who you know, 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:29.680 he's with me in spirit always and with all of 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:33.879 us in spirit, My man Harry Fobbs. Um. He was 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.760 a close friend j C who used to run we 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:41.439 came um so yeah yeah so he so he and 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:45.000 I became real cool and you know, he was like, yo, 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:47.080 why ain't pushing your music through? I was like, they 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:48.879 don't know what they're doing. He was like, yo, you 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.399 should ask some money. And I was like, damn, that 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:53.600 ship is real crazy, but that ship makes a lot 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:57.040 of sense. So I, you know, I inquired and they 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:59.760 were like, you know, having come up. So he came up. 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:03.639 They interviewed them, you know, none of that corporate paperworkship 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:08.000 was like you won't. He became a and all. Unfortunately 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:11.040 a few months after that he passed. Oh god, bless 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:13.639 Yeah shout that Harry FIBs. I know you hear me, 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:18.200 bro bless God bless. So Um and then Hawaiian Hawaiian Sophie. 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.560 Let's get to the actually making that record. Did that 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:25.159 go to Hawaii for the video? Oh? Man, my childhood? Right, 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:32.520 it was like right, that was ahead. But you know, 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:34.840 I guess, you know, I guess that was they were 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:37.680 in the process, you know, cleaning that money and ship. 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:42.080 You know how they're doing. You know, you know, you 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:47.879 go right the house over exactly, and that's exactly what 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:52.920 they did. But I mean, I think it turned out great. Um, 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:55.280 they showed a lot of support and what they did 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:58.200 and what they were aware of, you know, so I 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.680 appreciate officially the first jay Z was ever on like 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:05.440 like like video yeah, and like a video music box 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:07.720 for everything. It's first like vidual got there makes some 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:13.360 noise for jazz like that. When he could technically say 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:15.320 I discovered jay Z. He could do it. He can 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:21.400 do It's not people can say that. I can say 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:23.280 that now, can you has something to do early on 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:25.560 with you guys to write because was it you who 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:27.359 linked up with Kine and then you broke him around? 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:29.840 Oh this is what happened. So this we're gonna we're 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:32.359 gonna throw queens in the mixt Okay, let's let's get it, 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.280 you know what I'm saying. So, um, shirt Kings, Oh, 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:37.680 that's goddammit, that's you know, you know, Nice couldn't I 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:41.200 couldn't afford shirt Kings back then. But let's go, yeah 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:45.240 that was the young back then. Ye. But but Nike 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:48.040 from the Shirt King's Nike actually lived around the same 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:52.360 way that Jay did. So what happened was, Um, I 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:55.439 was coming home from from college after those two years, 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.320 you know, I basically dropped out of that ship. So 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:01.280 Nike found out, you know that I was back, you know, 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:04.240 in Brooklyn, you know. So I guess he had a 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:07.040 heated discussion with somebody else because they were talking about 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:10.199 this young cat that's supposed to be nice and and everybody, 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:13.160 and then, um, you know, Nike was like, I think 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:15.919 it ain't nicer than Jazz, Jazz and nice Nika period, 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:18.200 point blank. Boo boo boo. You know what I'm saying. 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:21.240 So they were going back and forth. It was like, well, 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:25.000 let's find out. So he set up he set up 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:27.200 the meeting, you know, and that's when me and Jay 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:30.200 first met. So I say that, you know, we had 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:33.800 like a um, you know, rhyn first Jay was like 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:37.920 and then he rhym and I was like, you know 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:40.199 what I'm saying. And he was the first he was 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:45.000 the first person that I ever heard Rohm exactly. So 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:47.200 I was like, yeah, you know, I gotta I gotta 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:51.200 keep eyeing on him, you know what I mean. So 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:57.359 so to fast forward that Nike was like the Yeah, 0:20:57.480 --> 0:20:59.919 he was like a broker for all of this, you know, 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:03.080 putting people together type of ship. So you know, I 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:05.480 guess Kane was getting some ship. You know, Kane and 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:09.040 a lot of other rap artists of that time before 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:12.520 Dad or wasn't before. It was around the same same time. 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:18.560 It's just a different you know, different Yeah. So, um, 0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:22.240 so we had a situation like, um, the same ship 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:26.120 came up with Kane and me like, no, I came 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:29.240 just just that you looked like Nick ain't better in 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:31.800 the jazz. You know, he was always screaming that then 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:35.240 it ain't better the jazz. So so he set it up. Um. 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:39.080 I don't know if you guys remember Fresh Gordon. Fresh Gordon, 0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:41.439 he was a producer. He produced some stuff for the 0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:45.680 Fat Boys. He had a deal with Tommy Boy. Um, 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:48.840 I'm gonna tell you another side story about what he's 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:53.640 what he should be more known and recognized for. But anyway, so, 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:58.040 um so Nike basically set up the meeting. So it 0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:00.480 was supposed to be a battle again, but you know 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:03.080 in this came, this is eight and a half stepping came. Yeah, 0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:07.480 this big daddy came. He came, came already and ship. Yeah, okay, 0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:18.959 let's go, you know. But so he said, so night 0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:21.719 set that up and we all met at Fresh Cards 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:27.240 Crib and we did this. We did this little I 0:22:27.240 --> 0:22:29.600 guess back then you call it a mix tape, you 0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:33.960 know what I'm saying. So we recorded that and from 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:37.679 then on, like we all, we all just became cool, 0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:40.959 you know, because um it was supposed to be a battle. 0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:43.879 But Jay was there and you know j and no 0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:46.960 like should he be rhyming ut this that? I'm like, 0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:50.520 come on, man, like if this means you, let's go. 0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:54.760 So we just did it, you know, Gordon, he ten minutes, 0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:58.880 whipped up a beat. We just made a record. Yeah 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:02.880 it wasn't a but it's like I'm going to be yeah, 0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:08.520 I'm doing yeah. Yeah. So we started and we we 0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:12.840 established a relationship from them, you know, being Jay's go 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:16.600 out to Queen's check on Kane and he started he 0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:19.440 you know, he started coming to Brooklyn and he was 0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:23.680 in Brooklyn and queens around it and yeah, yeah all 0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:26.400 from Marcy or you from Mary to or no, yeah, 0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:29.960 the race. And I'm source money to correct source money. Yeah, 0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:33.439 because that's the funniest thing. Right when I was googled yesterday, 0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:35.840 I was pulling up the thing, it was like it 0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:39.120 was like almost like the roles is almost reversed, right. Yeah, 0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:41.639 it was like at one point, you know, he was 0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:46.920 voicing your opinion, right and you know, got worked out 0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:49.199 or whatever, and I see it, so I said it, 0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:53.000 So suce Money interview popped up. So the sce Money interview, 0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:55.600 he said, he said your jazz. Oh, and he's talking 0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:57.960 about you because at the time and then now it's 0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:01.240 like the roles reversed. Now it's like, you know, you 0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:04.360 you got business with Jay and you're like, you know whatever, 0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:06.720 and now it's so much money, like sitting back and 0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:09.240 he's saying like, oh, Jay didn't do right. I can't 0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:12.680 really understand what what's going on. So I'm just being 0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:15.200 honest from the outside of looking in that trying to 0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:18.240 do my research. But I could tell there's nothing I 0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:21.119 can ever get unless I got your brother standing in 0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:23.399 front of me, what what do you what in your opinion? 0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:25.560 What do you how can you break that situation? Now? 0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:30.080 It's very simple, you know, um, one of the greatest 0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:34.240 axioms I've ever heard is ship happens. Okay. But what 0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:37.360 you say axioms? They need to take that one? What 0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:44.520 the fund? Does that mean that I need that from 0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:48.400 the later text me because I need to use that. 0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:55.720 That was hard right now talking at the same time hard. 0:24:56.320 --> 0:25:03.399 That's hard to make that ship happens okay. But the 0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:07.560 flip side of ship happens is that people react a 0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:10.440 certain way. So the thing that's and that's the key 0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:13.320 to it. Everybody focuses on the ship happens part, but 0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:17.560 nobody focuses on how do you respond to certain things? So, 0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:25.400 like you said, similar circumstances, right roles, reverse different responses. 0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:28.560 Keep it right there, y'all think all of y'all get it, 0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:32.119 And we need to have some money here to it 0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:34.399 to take you know. I'm I'm gonna be honest, I 0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.480 don't know where this rumor started up. We wouldn't that 0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:40.760 he's been black balled for drinks. Absolutely not true at all. 0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:43.560 I mean, no one will tell you the tooth. No 0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:46.560 one in this deal. And we've just because we've only 0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:49.639 been in this deal, like not even a year. No title, 0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.760 everybody tell you the truth. The first people Title has 0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:55.960 ever called for is deal. Yeah. They never asked for 0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:58.399 somebody to be on and someone not to be on 0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:02.240 that never they have, never the first time. That's why 0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:04.679 I was impressed. I was like, this is dumb. I 0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:06.320 was like, you know what, me knowing the history because 0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:08.400 that's something I would like to do for trash something 0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:10.399 you know, Trash actually put me on. You know what 0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:12.960 I'm saying. We had our descriptancies and we still have 0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:14.919 our descriptcy. I'll still seeing ship and be like this 0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:18.199 nigg is out of his mind, but he's mama. And 0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:20.640 I was like, that's that's real ship because it's one 0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:23.040 thing that you're doing business and it's a whole another 0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:25.800 thing that's to reach out and make ship happen. And that, 0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:28.160 to me, I have to applaud that. Let's applaud that. 0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:33.440 You know, it's a flawed that. But now now, because 0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:39.640 now where does the original flavor come in? They come 0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:43.359 in with Dame dash. Oh, that's why they hall of 0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:48.359 Names right right, okay, and actually yeah but actually um 0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:52.840 Ski is from North Carolina, but he was he was 0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:58.520 living in Harlem. So hold on, that's that's that's not 0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:02.920 totally different, completely different is different? Yeah yeah, ok yeah, 0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:06.960 yeah yeah yeah. See that's where Dame Dash comes in. 0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:09.240 That's because probably to that there was no Dame that 0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:13.040 there was no bigs right when you and okay, all right, 0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:16.480 so this is this is good ship. It's good ship 0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:22.560 for hipoply Gas. So yeah, so, um so actually one 0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:28.399 of your previous guests, um Clark Kent, introduced Dame Dash 0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:32.520 to Jay and then me and the rest of us 0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:37.720 and give you a little uh something. Y'all might not 0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:42.080 have known that. Um, the whole set up originally was 0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:47.840 for Jay, myself and Sauce. We were a group and 0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:52.119 we actually the name of the group, yeah, Paul's hard Pack, 0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:59.760 hard Pack. There was a game in Miami careed hard Packs. Okay, 0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:02.280 so that I was about to ask you with you 0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:05.160 and j ever a group too, what was it the originators? 0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:08.160 A no, no, that was just the record. Yeah yeah, 0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:09.840 but hard pack. Let's take it from the hard Pack. 0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:13.200 I like it. So so we did about we did 0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:19.639 about I know, I'm gonna get calls behind. Um. So 0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.640 we did about we did about six or seven songs together. 0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:26.960 Um and uh, you know, Clark produced something, Ski produced 0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:30.159 a couple. I produced a couple. And just to be 0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:32.600 clear again, so everybody knows it's Jay Sauce money and 0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:35.359 you Yeah, that's hard pack. Yeah, I just want to 0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:41.600 make sure. So Jay Z gotta relax. Just black his 0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:43.920 face out for the rest of the evers. It's not 0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:48.400 gonna be that hard. Just stop. I'm not doing it 0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:56.400 for you. Uh So. So, UM, there were slight descraping 0:28:56.480 --> 0:29:00.320 seeds as far as like, um, you know, the decision 0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:04.280 was sort of made that you know, Dane would would manager, 0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:09.040 so he wanted everybody to sign and um to Rocket 0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:13.400 Feller to Dane, to Dame's management, like to sign to 0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:19.000 him his management, and everybody didn't want to do it. 0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:23.400 You know, I didn't feel like I should do it. 0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:27.120 It had nothing to do with um my report with Dane, 0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:30.239 you know what I'm saying. It was just something that 0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:33.800 I felt didn't do. Yeah, and I think at that 0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:36.800 time Sauce felt the same way. So that's what happened 0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:39.760 with that. But um, but yeah, that was the that 0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:43.600 was the beginning of that, Clark uh introduced all of us. 0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:46.680 You guys had records though, is that six right? I 0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:49.959 wouldn't say records, I'd say recordings. Where they are? I 0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:55.200 don't know wherever they are? Police surface, Yeah, I got yeah, 0:29:55.240 --> 0:30:01.320 you know if you like ster Rynds, Buster Rounds got 0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:04.240 DA's from eight. Do you ever hang out with Busting 0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:07.280 round your listen? He is crazy? He having the he'd 0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:09.880 be having the old school dats. I'll be wanting to say, yo, 0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:11.920 how the fund? Do you even remember where he sent 0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:15.000 his at like I'm doing. You never seen? He has 0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.200 the rails, he has everything. But I'm sorry to cut 0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:19.240 you off. No, no, it's cool, it's cool. So you 0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:22.200 don't know what these records exists at all? No, Yeah, 0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:38.160 some engineer is somewhere like this, somebody whatever. So it 0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:40.640 just didn't make for a good joke. You know, that's 0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:44.440 the hard packer. I definitely definitely that's hard man, that's hard. 0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:49.160 That's hard. But um so now this London trip, right, 0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:52.600 it's so it's so iconic because we get to hear 0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:55.640 Jay even talk about like him going to London or whatever, 0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:59.920 but ironically this London trip he actually went with you. 0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:03.080 He was like, so came you to describe that for 0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.280 the people, because the people, I mean, that's dope when 0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:07.960 they see j and the Beama and it's like his history. 0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:10.760 But it's it's it's it's it's dope and it's humbling 0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:13.239 to know that that. When I found out, I was like, 0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:16.000 it was actually a trip that jazz oh from Jay 0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:19.720 So so you could describe that. Yeah, So it was 0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:24.480 the um you know, it was I don't know. I 0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:26.400 don't well, I know why. I just don't want to 0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:29.360 bro you know, do that to people. But we we 0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:33.360 went to London to record my album, so it was myself, 0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:37.960 J and RV Gotti and still the m R. Yeah, 0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:41.080 this was yeah, this was Goody told us that it 0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:46.560 was so yeah, so we um. So we were there 0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:50.040 for like two months. EARV got homesick, he broke out 0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:55.880 and we stayed. But it was it was a very 0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:59.520 good experience. Besides the food, you didn't know how to 0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:04.400 eat rot back there. I couldn't find a rollti. They 0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:07.760 wouldn't take us to it. They wouldn't take us to 0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:12.400 Brixton because photographers from London. Yeah, my first time, that's 0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:13.760 the first thing they said they said, go see the 0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:18.000 roster them and I went straight to the roster on them. 0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:21.800 Now they told us, they told us go to the 0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:25.000 studio because they know, you know what I'm saying, go 0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:27.840 to the studio. We went to the y you know 0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:31.760 sometimes you know, play some ball and back. You know. 0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:36.040 I did have a flat in this affluent area somewhere. 0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.200 I don't know where the hell we were, but we 0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:43.560 were living good. But uh so, um that that was. 0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:48.600 That wasn't a very great experience. It was. I couldn't 0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:53.960 believe it, and I really I really couldn't grasp what 0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:58.760 was going on until I had an actual um release 0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:02.280 uh celebration shan you know, uh you know really for 0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:07.240 the completion of the album in London, and we were 0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:12.040 in a Cadillac stretch, which was almost like having a 0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:15.360 Bentley stretch at that time. Here that was a ghost 0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:21.120 you know what I'm saying. So basically, um, then it 0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:25.640 hit me. I was like I'm doing it, you know, 0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:28.080 because the whole time it's just like regular ship on 0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:31.000 me Irvan j We clowning around ship. We go to 0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:35.240 this this restaurant every Wednesday and we run into all 0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:37.719 types of people that's coming through like I'm at Anita 0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:41.880 Baker out there, Keith Sweat came out there, George duke 0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:46.280 Man Live forever, um. So yeah, so it was it 0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:49.360 was a great experience. But that's when I realized I 0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:52.360 was like, oh, oh, this ship is real hip hop 0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:54.880 and go it could really go exactly now you fort 0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:59.360 to have jay Z on your cover? This is your album? 0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:01.959 What made you? What made you say that? Like, Yo, 0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:05.560 that's that's who? Then are you saying yeah, Like I 0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:09.799 wasn't the label. This is what I heard. The label 0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:12.160 was like, what this is your album? You should be 0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:16.440 on here solo? And what I heard you said that 0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:17.800 this is what I want to do. But I just 0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:22.840 want to hear from your mouth, like is that was 0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:26.600 my bro? You know? And I felt like, let's make 0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:32.320 some noise f man ship the real ship and I 0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:34.719 st me stop you because poison't doing that at the time. 0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:39.719 I you've seen it with Ray and Ghosts, right, Yeah, 0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:43.279 you didn't know that came from here, that this was. 0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:48.120 That was the first time someone put like every now 0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:50.000 and then these pody see somebody with their HOMEBOARLD, their 0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:53.359 dancers or their dances or somebody like that. You never 0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:57.560 see somebody d D but was in a group together. 0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:00.759 First I've ever seen the artists have another artist on 0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:03.239 their couple. What's this? This is? This is the first time. 0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:05.720 I don't know if I'm you know, and I don't remember. 0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:08.760 I didn't remember. I remember you being the first one. Yeah, 0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:11.439 that's all I remember. Goddam, I remember I got there. Okay, 0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:13.960 So here just the three years agree where I was 0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:15.839 just asking, like, what made you want to do that? 0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:19.960 Like you know what I mean, that's just who I am. Man, 0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:24.840 I can't help it, Like you know, I'm not it. 0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:30.600 You know, it's intellect behind it. It's like he deserved it. 0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:34.680 And I felt like, damn all this bullshit I gotta 0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:37.560 go through or that I went through to get to 0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:41.560 that point. You know, he shouldn't have to go through that, 0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:43.399 you know what I'm saying. So if I can make 0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:46.480 it easy show his face and everybody like, well, what 0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:48.680 does he do this time? I was like, she wrong, 0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:53.600 you know, And so I basically that was just how 0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:56.440 it was. You know, I didn't have I didn't have 0:35:56.520 --> 0:36:01.160 like a steady DJ. So I was like, you know, 0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:03.399 and I could be on here by myself, but that's 0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:06.480 not that's just not how I feel about myself. And 0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:11.200 I feel like, you know, our greatest value is our 0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:17.240 value too up. Yeah, I'll you know whoever you whoever, 0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:21.000 you express yourself too, and you know that to me, 0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:24.360 that's your value. And I just that's what I was 0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:26.920 just compelled to do, and I told I fought for it. 0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:29.399 I was like, Yo, that's my man. And it's like, 0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:32.560 you know, you're gonna have problems if he ain't on 0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:35.640 them on the album, least on the back. They didn't 0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:38.640 put him on the front, but on the back, it's like, 0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:41.000 y'all gonna have problems. I'm not gonna cooperate and you 0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:48.000 already gave me money. Let's let's salute to that man. 0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:54.719 Come on, that'slute. That expect that meet a lot, like 0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:56.960 a lot of them, tell your something. I know I 0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:58.920 said it off camera, but I had to meet you 0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:02.320 a lot that saying diego. I still haven't stopped shipping 0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:07.400 from that from nine years ago, my bro because to 0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:09.880 my boy cows. But I ain't gonna front. That's how 0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:12.880 quiet taste, right. I think a rapper mixes brand as 0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:15.719 a matter of fact, the rapper from the West. I 0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:17.560 think it's something that shot I got, I got a 0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:20.879 shot at me. I want to that's not gonna happen. 0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:24.200 That is not gonna happen, Sarah, We're gonna do a shot. 0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:29.040 Come on, let's do a shot something. I'll tell you. 0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:35.440 I gotta take my swetter off now to compone. You know, 0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:39.360 a Cossi clothing. Jesus, you know what I'm saying. I 0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:46.840 gotta support your homie. So um, alright, it's gonna start sweating. 0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:50.400 We gotta start remember learning how to make sweaters without 0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:53.799 the ship that stick to your ship. I just put 0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:56.120 this shot on one time. Come on, remember there, it's 0:37:56.160 --> 0:37:59.279 limited now, there's no more, no more time, especially with 0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:03.560 the corona of virus. Ship got the stretcher, right, So listen, 0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:04.960 let me just tell you something. I don't know if 0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:08.359 you know, but our show is about bigging all legends up, 0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:12.680 you know, every other every other culture. When you have 0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:15.560 ten years or more, they call you season. There's people 0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:18.440 right now getting seventy years old, having contracts and touring 0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:22.120 the mother phone world and continue, and they call them season. 0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:24.799 And our culture. No other culture is a word called 0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:28.799 washed up. Only our culture. And I fucking hate that 0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:31.399 me personally. I want to I want to say that 0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:33.600 we are legends and we are superheroes, and we're going 0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:37.439 to continue to motherfucking keep our legends and our superheroes 0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.680 alive and keep your motherfucking relevant. That's what this show 0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:43.640 was about. So we celebrate your life, we celebrate your legacy, 0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:45.600 and we celebrate your career. And that's what the fun 0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:51.480 Job said. So little old Sunny you got a shot? 0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:56.560 Why you got the shot there today? I hope I 0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:59.600 got a stretch over there for you. We just drink 0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:06.560 virus the way you gave me the broken Yeah, let's 0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:08.600 let's stop with the coronavirus. That's it too close in 0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:16.040 my hood? Yeah, that's it was late. That's called tiger bones. 0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:22.200 Actually it's actually a herb. It's actually not supposed to 0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:24.360 be many herbs. It's not just one. Yeah yeah, but 0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:26.160 you see one shot. That's we're supposed to do it. 0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:30.399 So now now the rumor is, you know you want 0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:33.680 you want jail, you're good Originators drop one of the 0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:38.360 illest records. First, I'll subscribe that, like, because this is 0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:41.879 the first time you see your man like like he's 0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:43.759 shining and then he comes and he puts you on. 0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:47.359 Originators is that how that or I'm missing a couple 0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:50.560 of things. No, No, it was we you know, it 0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:53.319 was during that that time and you know he was 0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:58.359 bubbling and uh, you know, I guess the idea came up, 0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:01.960 and I think that, um, they felt it inappropriate to 0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:06.160 do a song like that, and it would be, um, 0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:08.799 it would just be bigger to have me on song. 0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:13.040 Oh you know what I'm saying. Um, so you know, 0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:16.160 love is love and you know he called me, I'm 0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:20.920 actually I'm actually writing a book, um that that gives 0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:24.240 the account, you know, the backstory to all the events 0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:27.040 leading up the student. You gotta have a script to 0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:30.440 that book. Well, actually it's it's gonna be. Um, it's 0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:34.520 a volume of um what I foresee as numerous volumes, 0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:38.640 and it's basically gonna be like an analyzation of some 0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:43.280 of my landmark versus and gives lessons in poetic license 0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:47.120 like MoDiP is similarly metaphors. That's the right time to 0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:49.800 say that, you know, because we want to tell you, 0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:51.640 because the right time to do ship like that, because 0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:54.279 content if you produce that ship or you produce it 0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:56.520 and just you know what he's saying the book right 0:40:56.520 --> 0:41:03.879 now that like me personally, I'm not a read book 0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:11.600 a round. You know what I'm saying, Like watched the 0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:13.840 Ship out of something, though you watched I watched the 0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:17.080 ship and watch my next movie wait more than I 0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:20.160 read your books. But I love the book to man. Listen. 0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:23.560 I'm not in the audio books yet. Okay, I'm not 0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:25.759 into it yet. I feel like I'm gonna get into 0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:27.960 it eventually, but I feel like I gotta go back 0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:30.640 to reading some more. I'm reading Message to the Millennials. 0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:35.560 UM's it Islam came he um, and he gave me 0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:38.319 a book. I read the front praise today. I felt good, 0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:43.080 um yeah, but then I realized the color. Yeah I read. 0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:45.080 I read that. I read the one page and then 0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:49.520 I read the back. I said stuck start start started, 0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:57.839 and we yeah yeah. So okay, so what what what? What? 0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:00.960 All right? What is your favor it thing in hip hop? 0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:05.120 Is it making the record or performing the record? Mm 0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:10.640 hmm ma. That's that's a tough one. But I will 0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:14.799 I will say performing the record. And the reason why 0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:20.279 I say that is because it's you well know, yeah, yeah, 0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:25.640 how do you know what works exactly? You're gonna stand 0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:31.000 in the way, but you know, as we all know 0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:37.800 everybody doesn't really perform to the same extent as they're recording. 0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:41.120 So to me, it's sort of like a crown achievement 0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:43.080 when you could get on stage and you could give 0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:45.520 it up the same way that ship sound on the record. 0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:48.760 You know what I'm saying, it's special and it's special 0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:52.560 and it's unique because everybody can't do it. You know, 0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:57.800 everybody can't do it. So like I've always prided myself 0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:01.080 on that on breath control, like all the technical ship 0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:04.200 that you know, nobody gives a funk about when they 0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:06.600 listen to a record, like, oh that ship banging when 0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:08.239 it's in the club, and just do the other on 0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:11.080 his riding music. That's all they're thinking about. That's all 0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:13.560 they're supposed to think about. Your job is to do 0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:17.840 all of the other things, the intangibles that make the 0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:20.680 record what it is that makes them not think about 0:43:20.719 --> 0:43:23.000 any of that ship. You know, that's that's ill because 0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:25.759 that's you know again, you know, I could take this 0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:28.239 young generation because I have to write. And that's the 0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:30.239 difference between their music and all music is you can 0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:32.040 tell we didn't punch in. You can tell we didn't 0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:36.400 have the technology the technology to go, you know, stop this, 0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:38.440 and that's why you see these guys, they all they 0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:40.600 flows and going like this, and it's it's not that 0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:57.360 they're going, which is exactly that's imps. And that was 0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:01.200 my next question. It's ever been somebody who was scared 0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:04.400 to say I don't I don't want to perform after him? 0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:08.480 Oh hell no, never, never, never ever got to make 0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:15.560 some noise for that. I mean on stage, stage, stage, stage, okay, club, 0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:18.160 I don't give a funk. You're that confidence, I'm jazz. 0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:23.960 Oh right right right after the way this, I gotta 0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:25.640 ask you that right now you're getting a record withhold. 0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.279 Right now, you're taking whole head off. I ain't trying 0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:30.600 to take his head off. I'm saying that you ain't 0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:36.799 trying to take his head off. You just playing. But 0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:39.120 now he's gonna he's gonna put his best foot forward 0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:41.439 and put my best foot forward. I got. I got 0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:45.120 great confidence in myself and I got great confidence in him. 0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:49.600 And you know, I've told people like it's like y'all 0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:55.920 think is sleeping, like you know, like it's it's so 0:44:56.000 --> 0:45:01.000 crazy like for what we here, like he's still that 0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:07.200 far beyond the nine percent. How you know what I'm saying, 0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:10.640 and you gotta you gotta respect it. And and now 0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:13.200 that's one thing I did for see. I was like, 0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:16.680 as long as he maintains his normal health and everything 0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:19.319 like that, he's gonna be able to go. You're gonna 0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:23.320 always be able to go. And you know, Nigga is young, 0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:28.719 middle age old whatever, like they still like I hear 0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:30.520 stuff I don't. And I'm gonna tell you right now, 0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:32.960 I don't really listen to too much ship. I barely 0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:37.120 listened to my own ship. And like, I don't really 0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:40.759 see nobody you know, fucking with him like that. And 0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:42.680 if they do, they need to turn off all of 0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:46.680 the auto tune and the super punchings and all that 0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:48.719 other ship. We don't have no punch of Like, so 0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:53.680 what timing was off is like, nah, I gotta do that. 0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:03.480 You don't remember that ship eighteen pounds right? And it 0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:06.440 was crazy. I used to be in D and D 0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:10.600 where they had like, um, you know, they had sessions 0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:13.040 where they had like you know, house music and ship 0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:16.200 like that. So you know these little parts where Nigga's 0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:22.719 going Nigga with the motherfucking um raised the blade yea, 0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:26.680 Like I saw this one cat I can't remember his name. 0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:30.680 He had like if somebody, if somebody slammed the door, 0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:34.120 like he probably killed him. But because he had, like yo, 0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:39.000 I'm telling you, they had like thirty little slithers that 0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:42.319 he had lined up that he had to take, you 0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:45.040 know on as an edit you know, to do some 0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:50.759 ill last crazy you know. You know. That's what I'm 0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:53.120 saying when these kids be like I did, I did 0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:56.960 the record that like it sounds like you did, Yo. 0:46:58.040 --> 0:47:00.960 I think I sit in five minutes. I know you 0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:04.239 put no affort at all, and your engineer didn't care. 0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:09.520 Just aside, like they just aside. The engineer said, D 0:47:09.600 --> 0:47:12.080 and D shout out to Premiere. You work with Premiere, right, Oh, 0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:14.239 most definitely. Yeah, you know, I'm just you know, I'm 0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:17.520 just saying it for the Premiere produce one of the 0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:20.439 jay Z disc records. This is awkward. Let's just be clear. 0:47:20.520 --> 0:47:26.200 I mean that we got to talk about it, I believe, 0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:28.480 so that's popped up so as I don't know, because 0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:30.319 like I said, you had so many beach you just 0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:33.879 go yeah, and then I don't really really kid man, 0:47:34.560 --> 0:47:37.240 like I was, I was more listening to that stuff 0:47:37.239 --> 0:47:40.399 like I would listen less to anybody else. If I 0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:42.880 was tracking ship, I would be tracking who was listening 0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:46.520 to my ship? You know, however that sounded, it is 0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:49.040 what it is, and what was the actual discrepancy because 0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:50.920 everyone when you when you google, like I said, I 0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:52.600 had to do my research, and it's great that I 0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:55.160 was like kind of like, you know, out of it yesterday, 0:47:55.160 --> 0:47:57.359 so I had all the time to keep going. And 0:47:57.480 --> 0:48:00.400 one of the stories it says, um that it was 0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:06.160 over a contract. Nay. The truth of the matter is, 0:48:06.320 --> 0:48:08.320 and I hate to burst a lot of people's bubble, 0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:13.000 but it really wasn't anything. It was between the media 0:48:13.239 --> 0:48:19.400 and certain crab as bullshit weak motherfucker's in the circle. 0:48:20.239 --> 0:48:23.720 That was basically it, you know, saying saying certain things 0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:28.600 like all right, I give you example, like like um, 0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:31.560 and I'm not, I'm not I'm not boosting myself. I'm not. 0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:35.880 I'm not saying this egotistically, but I'm I'm sincere to 0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:39.440 a fault sometimes because I give people too much credit. 0:48:39.840 --> 0:48:44.080 So like if somebody says something or they'll say it 0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:47.920 to me and they're disgrunted about something, and then it's like, 0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:50.880 all right, that's confidential. I respect it. You know what 0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:55.840 I'm saying. So then if somebody, if you turn around 0:48:55.920 --> 0:48:58.920 and the same person that said that to me goes 0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:05.319 to the person and and they say something about me 0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:08.400 and then say and try to fix what they said, 0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:11.319 and then the person that they're talking to comes back 0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:15.400 to me, then I gotta let it go because the 0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:17.959 same thing you're asking me to do, you ain't do it. 0:49:18.600 --> 0:49:20.279 You just you you know what I'm saying. You just 0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:22.960 let that ship loose. So it's like, nah, I'm not 0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:25.399 gonna do it to the point where I'm gonna take 0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:28.560 a blow for you and make myself look a certain way. 0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:30.440 So it's like I'm gonna give it up. You know 0:49:30.480 --> 0:49:32.240 what I'm saying. This is what happened, is what happened. 0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:33.880 You can put the nigga on the phone right now, 0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:35.680 I'm and say the same ship that I'm saying in 0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:38.640 your face right now. So I'm sincere to a fault. 0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:41.000 And I think a lot of niggas around that time 0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:44.600 in that circle, they ain't like that. They ain't like that. 0:49:44.680 --> 0:49:47.360 And then you know some of them niggas, it was 0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:50.440 just bitch ass niggas. They just wanted to be closer 0:49:50.480 --> 0:49:52.520 to this dude, and they knew that there was nobody 0:49:52.560 --> 0:49:55.800 closer to him than me because we was bros. You 0:49:55.840 --> 0:49:59.000 know what I'm saying, And that you know, that's just 0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:01.560 that was that's it. That was just it. I don't 0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:03.640 want to name names because I don't want nobody coming 0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:07.160 at me and then I gotta hurt somebody, somebody hurt me. 0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:10.560 I'm not impervious to paint to to to um injury, 0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:19.240 but I am almost yet. But you know, it's it's beautiful. 0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:21.279 It's beautiful to see men be men, you know what 0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:24.040 I'm saying. Because the thing about it is they say, 0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:26.120 how you come in is how you go out? Right. 0:50:26.280 --> 0:50:28.800 If you come in, you come in butt nicking, and 0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:30.640 how you go out you go out. But Nick, and 0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:33.680 the thing is if you can, you know, make amends 0:50:33.719 --> 0:50:35.640 of the people you started with and y'all can get 0:50:35.640 --> 0:50:38.360 some money together and do some business together, that's a 0:50:38.400 --> 0:50:41.120 beautiful thing. So like, how did that like how did 0:50:41.160 --> 0:50:43.279 that comes seen? The first picture I believe was with 0:50:43.400 --> 0:50:45.840 no I d yeah, so um And I don't know 0:50:45.840 --> 0:50:47.680 I forget where that was that. I figured that first 0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:53.960 picture in Chicago, Okay, okay, and he's from from from 0:50:54.000 --> 0:50:56.520 the show so how did that happen? Like, because well 0:50:56.840 --> 0:50:58.799 there was tell you something, not not the only the 0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:01.560 industry was shocked, but they were happy. It's like the 0:51:01.600 --> 0:51:05.400 first time they was like oh yes, like finally like 0:51:05.400 --> 0:51:08.440 like you know, all the Jay's discrepancies, we you know, 0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:10.799 we we can see without but this was something that 0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:13.200 I think everyone was just like that's dope, Like this 0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:16.000 is like sincerely a dope thing. Now the business part 0:51:16.080 --> 0:51:18.560 was later, but let's subscribe that first picture when we've 0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:20.920 seen it was you j and no idea. This is 0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:23.880 for years of termoil going on in that boom. This 0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:28.200 is it. Yeah. So for um, firstly, there was somebody 0:51:28.239 --> 0:51:32.520 I was doing some business with in Chicago who's from Chicago. Um, 0:51:32.600 --> 0:51:35.680 they're actually from Detroit, but they live in Chicago, and 0:51:37.080 --> 0:51:41.400 you know, one of their main things was to put 0:51:41.719 --> 0:51:45.560 us together. And I was like that's cool, that's great, 0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:50.720 but you know, let me let me press the button 0:51:50.760 --> 0:51:55.000 on that. So they just jumped the gun, and you know, 0:51:55.040 --> 0:51:57.600 it's like, you know, it's the perfect opportunity. This is 0:51:57.640 --> 0:52:00.200 that and the other. So I'm like I'm a half 0:52:00.239 --> 0:52:02.520 the least resistance guy, you know what I'm saying. So 0:52:02.560 --> 0:52:04.040 I was like all right, let's see what happens. You 0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:07.520 know what I'm saying, I'm not worried. So um so 0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:10.319 he said he you know, he talked actually talked to 0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:16.960 uh Emery Jones, so homie. Yeah, so we so we 0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:22.759 basically he so Emery set it up and um so 0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:25.759 we got you know, we went to will Call and 0:52:27.040 --> 0:52:30.560 we met in the green room and it was just 0:52:30.600 --> 0:52:33.239 regular ship. Like I ain't seen him since last month 0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:36.120 or something like that. He's like jazz, It's like Jay 0:52:36.239 --> 0:52:40.520 was good, you know, handshake, hug. I could literally see 0:52:40.560 --> 0:52:44.239 this going on, but literally and and and it was 0:52:44.320 --> 0:52:48.160 it was. It was beautiful. It was beautiful. Um, And 0:52:48.280 --> 0:52:50.399 I always liked my chances with ships, so I didn't 0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:53.960 expect any I didn't expect anything negative, you know, because 0:52:54.000 --> 0:52:56.279 I mean everything was you know, I wouldn't have got 0:52:56.320 --> 0:52:59.839 that fall if it was you know, something was you know, right. 0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:04.759 But um, the beautiful part about it was, Um, he 0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:07.160 just stood in front of me and you know, I 0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:09.239 didn't say much, and he didn't say much, but he 0:53:09.280 --> 0:53:12.720 just went like this, and I was like, that said everything. 0:53:13.120 --> 0:53:14.719 And I was like that takes me off the hook 0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:17.600 because now I ain't gotta be awkward and say anything 0:53:17.680 --> 0:53:20.000 and ship and he ain't gotta say nothing. So we 0:53:20.120 --> 0:53:22.360 just thought some yes, what you've been up tune? You know, 0:53:22.400 --> 0:53:24.879 a little ship, you know, nudges and ship like that. 0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:27.560 You know, so it was beautiful. Now I ain't gonna 0:53:27.560 --> 0:53:29.840 lie act the same and just being honest with you 0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:32.759 like like like like it's it's the smoothness that's with you. 0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:35.160 It's the same smoothness like you can tell like I 0:53:35.239 --> 0:53:40.400 knew you weren't gonna yell this whole interview. I like, 0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:42.640 you know what I'm saying, Like that's like that's the 0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:44.520 good thing. Like I said, I was just sold exhausted 0:53:44.600 --> 0:53:47.280 that I don't want to subscribe myself as being sick yesterday, 0:53:47.320 --> 0:53:49.399 but I was like I was exhausted, But the good 0:53:49.400 --> 0:53:52.120 thing was I can still move my motherfucking fingers. So 0:53:52.160 --> 0:53:55.880 I just kept watching everything like I watched everything about you, 0:53:55.920 --> 0:53:57.600 like this is the thing is like I get into 0:53:57.640 --> 0:54:02.440 our when I'm out the interview you, I'm you like 0:54:02.840 --> 0:54:05.080 that's how much like I want to be in Cotnegro, 0:54:05.360 --> 0:54:08.560 you know what I mean? And I just knew. And 0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:11.879 the crazy thing is is that a marsy thing like 0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:15.560 with y'all y'all, y'alln't blow y'all cool now, It's it's 0:54:15.600 --> 0:54:18.080 not that because I mean I know a lot of 0:54:18.120 --> 0:54:21.839 things like I got like, yo, man, chill out, they 0:54:21.920 --> 0:54:28.440 just said what's up? But no, I think sometimes, I 0:54:28.480 --> 0:54:31.520 mean it's an expression of our own egos when you 0:54:32.480 --> 0:54:38.960 coming into contact with someone and you tend to, um, 0:54:39.000 --> 0:54:43.360 you know, you have kendred spirits, So you like, I 0:54:43.440 --> 0:54:45.359 like that, dude, he's cool. You know what I'm saying. 0:54:45.360 --> 0:54:48.200 It's because you see the things that you like about 0:54:48.239 --> 0:54:51.719 yourself and somebody else. So I think that has a 0:54:51.760 --> 0:54:54.600 lot to do with it. And then around that time 0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:57.520 up until like for so many years, like we were 0:54:57.560 --> 0:55:00.400 around each other all the time, so it would be 0:55:00.480 --> 0:55:05.080 times where somebody would say something and we would respond 0:55:05.160 --> 0:55:10.319 with the same phrase at the same exact time that type. 0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:15.400 So so yeah, maybe you know it resonates to this 0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:18.120 day in some form of fashion. So then after you 0:55:18.200 --> 0:55:22.000 got to see each other, Um, how does this business 0:55:22.120 --> 0:55:24.279 deal happen? How does this happen? Because you know you 0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:27.840 gotta see each other, that's great. Just making amends, That's 0:55:27.880 --> 0:55:30.600 that's good enough. Like for me, like, yeah, you know, um, 0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:32.080 if I have be for one of them a while 0:55:32.120 --> 0:55:34.600 ago too. When that happened, right like like two or 0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:36.399 three years ago, I think something like that. But then 0:55:36.560 --> 0:55:41.640 now this deal is announced, your imprint, this is your 0:55:41.640 --> 0:55:45.080 ship right, correct me if I'm wrong, and it's a 0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:47.960 it's a distribution deal. Yes, it's a distribution deal. So 0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:51.880 how does this happen? Like? Well, I mean it really 0:55:51.920 --> 0:55:56.799 wasn't that complicated. Um, this happened. Um months later. This 0:55:56.920 --> 0:56:01.880 was on the On the Run Too tour and he 0:56:01.920 --> 0:56:06.919 was in Detroit and so I told him, I said, 0:56:06.920 --> 0:56:08.759 I was, you know, I was doing some business in 0:56:08.840 --> 0:56:11.560 Detroit around the time, because one of my people told me, 0:56:11.560 --> 0:56:14.200 he's like, yo, you know, um, same time you in Detroit. 0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:16.920 You know your man is gonna be out there. I 0:56:17.000 --> 0:56:19.160 was like word. I was like, so, let me see 0:56:19.760 --> 0:56:22.600 what's going on. And then UM like yeah, man'd be 0:56:22.640 --> 0:56:25.200 great to see you. And he was like, yeah, that's perfect. 0:56:25.600 --> 0:56:29.200 So you know, same ship will call and we were 0:56:29.280 --> 0:56:32.800 chopping it up and you know, he was just doing 0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:38.680 this thing, relaxing, um. But he kept asking me like, so, yeah, 0:56:38.760 --> 0:56:41.319 what's up, what you're doing, what's going on? You know? 0:56:41.360 --> 0:56:45.080 And I was you know, I'm usually very transparent, but 0:56:45.200 --> 0:56:49.000 I wasn't you know, And you know, I said, you know, 0:56:49.040 --> 0:56:51.080 I'm just but I did tell the truth. You know 0:56:51.120 --> 0:56:53.520 what I'm saying. You know, I still you know, doing music. 0:56:54.040 --> 0:56:57.200 You know, I'm waiting for the right opportunity, you know, 0:56:57.280 --> 0:57:01.880 to to make certain things happen. Press some buttons. And 0:57:01.920 --> 0:57:03.560 he was like all right, So he let it go. 0:57:03.719 --> 0:57:06.200 He saw that I was sort of being a little 0:57:06.200 --> 0:57:11.160 bit evasive. But long story short, you know, he was saying, um, 0:57:11.200 --> 0:57:13.400 he was about to you know, prepare for you know, 0:57:13.440 --> 0:57:18.920 the stage and everything, you know, so I basically pull 0:57:19.000 --> 0:57:20.800 them to the side and chop it up with you 0:57:20.880 --> 0:57:23.440 for a second, like you know. And I asked him. 0:57:23.480 --> 0:57:25.920 I was like, you know, I know you got you know, 0:57:26.040 --> 0:57:28.280 this this strow and this that and the other, and 0:57:28.320 --> 0:57:30.520 that's what I needs. Like can you help me with that? 0:57:30.600 --> 0:57:32.280 He was like saying, no more. Ill connect you with 0:57:32.320 --> 0:57:40.080 my people now. Is it a goddamn at that moment 0:57:40.120 --> 0:57:41.760 you had to humble yourself to do that or not. 0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:45.640 Because some people feel like egotistical, they can't do it. 0:57:45.640 --> 0:57:48.240 They can't ego is a big thing. They can't go 0:57:48.240 --> 0:57:50.760 in Like some people can't can't remember their little homies. 0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:54.440 Turn it into the big homie, you can't see you 0:57:54.440 --> 0:57:56.760 you even though you see opportunity, you won't go for 0:57:56.800 --> 0:58:00.040 the opportunity because the ego is in the way of it. 0:58:00.280 --> 0:58:03.480 Like I can't do that because of this pride I have. Yeah, No, 0:58:03.680 --> 0:58:06.440 but I mean I looked at the big picture, like 0:58:07.320 --> 0:58:12.400 you know, opportunity knocks, you know, and and also um, 0:58:12.480 --> 0:58:15.000 and deserving as well, because you could even be deserving 0:58:15.040 --> 0:58:18.439 and not take the shot because of the pride, right right, 0:58:18.600 --> 0:58:21.960 and and I felt like, um, and I still feel 0:58:21.960 --> 0:58:25.800 that way. Um. You know, people say like, oh, it's great, 0:58:25.920 --> 0:58:28.400 you know these things that are happening. You deserve it. 0:58:28.800 --> 0:58:31.840 And I and I stopped him, and I tell them, like, 0:58:32.200 --> 0:58:36.560 I don't deserve the ship unless I take it. You know, 0:58:36.720 --> 0:58:39.040 it could be I could have all these accolades and 0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:41.960 all that ship, but if I don't get it, I 0:58:42.000 --> 0:58:45.200 don't deserve it, what I'm saying. So that's and and 0:58:45.240 --> 0:58:47.440 I you know, that's when I just asked them. And 0:58:47.960 --> 0:58:50.400 you know, it wasn't it wasn't a big thing for 0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:54.280 him to do, and it wasn't a big thing for 0:58:54.320 --> 0:58:56.800 me to ask. You know what I'm saying. That's a 0:58:56.840 --> 0:58:59.440 beautiful thing though. Let me just say that outside of 0:58:59.440 --> 0:59:02.320 looking at it. You know what I'm saying, I mean 0:59:02.480 --> 0:59:06.360 because um to me, to me, that's exactly what it is. 0:59:06.400 --> 0:59:09.080 Man like you know, um, I know your brothers are brothers. 0:59:09.160 --> 0:59:10.840 Like you know what I'm saying. That history y'all got 0:59:11.080 --> 0:59:14.880 so rich that it's like that's rich, that that's rich 0:59:14.920 --> 0:59:16.800 in itself. That's the definition that rich to me is 0:59:16.800 --> 0:59:18.840 when you have the rich history, when you have that 0:59:19.080 --> 0:59:21.440 type of ship like that, and um to see it 0:59:21.480 --> 0:59:24.840 coming back together in three sixty yeah yeah, hell yeah, 0:59:24.960 --> 0:59:27.640 hell yeah, that's that's motherfucking dope ship. So I just 0:59:27.640 --> 0:59:29.800 want to commend that. I want to salute that. I 0:59:29.800 --> 0:59:31.960 want to salute you. I want to thank you for 0:59:32.080 --> 0:59:33.480 being a part. But we ain't gonna be in there. 0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:35.880 I don't know. I'm gonna take some more. No, no 0:59:35.960 --> 0:59:40.320 more shots, right yeah, one of one more? But then 0:59:40.360 --> 0:59:42.760 you know three is my lucky number. We could do 0:59:42.760 --> 0:59:46.320 one more. I heard you how you running up and 0:59:46.360 --> 0:59:49.880 down the beach. I can't take to me because it's 0:59:50.000 --> 0:59:56.040 scarce right now, okay, all right, well, so um now 0:59:56.040 --> 0:59:59.200 when you see you come from the era, I know, 0:59:59.480 --> 1:00:01.800 I know this little crazy we well you come from 1:00:01.880 --> 1:00:04.080 error and then I come from the error right after you, 1:00:04.080 --> 1:00:08.680 where we avoided cameras at all costs exactly, like it 1:00:08.760 --> 1:00:13.720 was just totally different. Like now you walk around, these 1:00:13.720 --> 1:00:16.640 people are just filming you without how do you adapt 1:00:16.680 --> 1:00:22.400 self surveillance now, like everyone Jesus you don't like me 1:00:22.440 --> 1:00:25.920 and so gave me that. That's okay, I'll take it 1:00:25.920 --> 1:00:29.640 down times tonight. But how do you adapt to that 1:00:29.720 --> 1:00:32.720 like that? I mean with me. You come from the 1:00:32.800 --> 1:00:41.600 super drug dealer era and and and I don't know, yes, 1:00:41.760 --> 1:00:43.680 super drunk, you know what I mean. And no one 1:00:43.880 --> 1:00:46.160 wanted cameras. I don't know when people will be heated 1:00:46.200 --> 1:00:49.600 you take a picture of them. But so so so 1:00:49.760 --> 1:00:54.520 two stories. One as a child, like it was like 1:00:54.680 --> 1:00:57.439 I never like and I had like one of those 1:00:57.480 --> 1:01:01.480 fathers is like trying to you know, just calling you, 1:01:01.680 --> 1:01:04.680 bribe you into it, like come on, let's take this picture. 1:01:04.720 --> 1:01:06.160 And I'm like, I don't want to take a picture. 1:01:06.760 --> 1:01:08.920 You like, I get your quarter. You know back then 1:01:09.080 --> 1:01:16.120 quarter was like ten dollars a lot, so you know, um, 1:01:16.560 --> 1:01:25.800 back then the bag was down. Else said that, so um, 1:01:25.960 --> 1:01:29.360 so I don't really want to see a type of bone. 1:01:30.320 --> 1:01:37.400 That's what you cheated, not to you know, um, yeah, 1:01:37.440 --> 1:01:40.800 so as I got older, like yeah, you know, with 1:01:40.840 --> 1:01:43.720 the with the things going on, like nobody wants wanted 1:01:43.760 --> 1:01:47.360 to be in pictures and what was so funny? I 1:01:47.480 --> 1:01:51.640 just recently UM shot the video for the first single 1:01:52.200 --> 1:01:54.600 uh M A R C Y And of course I 1:01:54.640 --> 1:01:57.320 shot it in Marcy and you know, some of the 1:01:57.800 --> 1:02:00.760 ogs came out and I was like, yo, y'all want 1:02:00.800 --> 1:02:03.960 to getting this shot and he's like, now you gotta do. 1:02:06.800 --> 1:02:09.880 I'm like, come on, man, a hundred years old, you 1:02:10.000 --> 1:02:15.600 can like you're still You're still do it. Ain't even 1:02:15.640 --> 1:02:18.600 that it's that cold they exactly, it's the cold. They 1:02:18.680 --> 1:02:23.040 fall like cold. My code is keeps a lotting my brothers, 1:02:23.360 --> 1:02:26.640 my people in there. I literally got the biggest shot 1:02:26.680 --> 1:02:36.520 here now I am here. Now will be little on 1:02:36.560 --> 1:02:40.560 the plane. Lassy projects got you, you got jail, you 1:02:40.600 --> 1:02:45.040 got source, you gotta fleek. What's the new generation coming from? Right? 1:02:45.160 --> 1:02:48.400 Because you because I understand your dealer is a label 1:02:48.480 --> 1:02:54.280 dere Yeah, well you can sign other people, correct, you 1:02:54.280 --> 1:02:57.760 can have other people to distribution there excuse me, Okay, 1:02:57.800 --> 1:03:00.960 no problem, let's talk about might just so weg wine 1:03:01.440 --> 1:03:03.400 that that's the only thing that makes it work less, 1:03:03.480 --> 1:03:07.040 drink some more like I'm sorry to be honest, I 1:03:07.080 --> 1:03:09.920 mean I'm game. Okay, let's do it so you can 1:03:09.960 --> 1:03:13.000 actually sign other people. What what would you look for 1:03:13.160 --> 1:03:16.120 in a new artist? Would you go back to Marcy? 1:03:16.200 --> 1:03:19.160 Or what would you do if I got to? Okay, 1:03:19.600 --> 1:03:26.560 I have to because so many, so many people fail 1:03:27.760 --> 1:03:30.720 where they where they come from, like and for us, 1:03:31.120 --> 1:03:33.720 that's a large that's that's a big part. It's an 1:03:33.720 --> 1:03:38.640 integral part of what we are is where we came from. 1:03:38.640 --> 1:03:42.360 So it's important to go back to where you came from, 1:03:42.520 --> 1:03:47.200 find what you are or what you were, and and 1:03:47.320 --> 1:03:53.400 nurture that. It's like helping yourself and if you could 1:03:53.440 --> 1:03:55.400 have that, you're trying to that for somebody else. Right, 1:03:55.400 --> 1:03:57.720 it's the key to being a master and the servant. 1:03:58.040 --> 1:04:01.080 Like people look at a master and not realize that 1:04:01.200 --> 1:04:03.720 a true master is to serving the vote. You know 1:04:03.720 --> 1:04:07.560 what I'm saying. So it's so you know, so it 1:04:07.600 --> 1:04:10.400 just keeps going in the cycle for the most part. 1:04:10.520 --> 1:04:17.240 So that was hard. A true master is a servant. 1:04:17.640 --> 1:04:20.600 You can't really be that guy unless you serve someone else. 1:04:20.720 --> 1:04:24.880 That's so, what's the next step? So now we got 1:04:24.880 --> 1:04:27.960 the deal? You say you gotta take it. M hmmm. 1:04:28.040 --> 1:04:32.720 So what's the next step from man, Um, just push 1:04:32.760 --> 1:04:35.360 the hell out of this single project. You gotta tell 1:04:35.400 --> 1:04:39.480 us about the project project. The project is called the 1:04:39.520 --> 1:04:43.840 warm Up, which is more controversy. If anybody familiar with 1:04:44.200 --> 1:04:48.640 you know another project that which is out now by 1:04:48.680 --> 1:04:50.520 the time this comes out, it's out now. People need 1:04:50.600 --> 1:04:54.040 to go pick it up now. Yes, UM, all all 1:04:54.120 --> 1:04:59.160 major platforms. Um it's ten joints. UM. I recently had 1:04:59.360 --> 1:05:04.120 a a listening party in Chicago that turned out really well, 1:05:04.920 --> 1:05:09.320 and UM, the consensus of what I'm getting is everybody saying, Yo, 1:05:09.400 --> 1:05:14.600 it sounds like a motion picture and you remember your thought. 1:05:14.800 --> 1:05:17.600 But you real hip hop? You're not. You're not you know, 1:05:17.680 --> 1:05:20.120 you don't got t pain on your ship, but do 1:05:20.280 --> 1:05:24.440 mean nothing pains not hipp not not pain, not real 1:05:24.520 --> 1:05:27.320 hip hop. I'm not a rapper, but I'm not. But 1:05:27.400 --> 1:05:30.000 you know the atal tune. What I mean, you ain't know, 1:05:30.120 --> 1:05:32.200 you ain't got you ain't got a future joking about um, 1:05:32.280 --> 1:05:36.000 you know what I mean? Lane gay not one. And 1:05:36.040 --> 1:05:41.000 that's that's no disrespect to anybody, no disrespecting myself. You 1:05:41.080 --> 1:05:44.200 gotta keep it. It's authentic to you. Yeah, yeah, So 1:05:44.240 --> 1:05:47.760 how difficult is that? Because making music and this time, 1:05:47.800 --> 1:05:50.480 do you try to cater to these new guys or 1:05:50.480 --> 1:05:53.080 do you say, funck these motherfucker's Let me stay in 1:05:53.160 --> 1:05:58.280 my lane? Well, what do we say? My The saying 1:05:58.320 --> 1:06:02.200 I always say to myself is is stick to my guns. 1:06:02.360 --> 1:06:06.000 When people ask earlier correlatively, ship happens? What was it 1:06:06.120 --> 1:06:11.960 called that word or axiom? What axiom? Axiom? What's the 1:06:12.000 --> 1:06:14.440 axiom for this one? Stick to your guns? Stick to 1:06:14.520 --> 1:06:21.120 your motherfucking comes the axiome? Goddamnit. So you kept hip hop? Yeah? 1:06:21.160 --> 1:06:23.000 I kept what I feel is hip hop. You know, 1:06:23.040 --> 1:06:24.680 I had to give them that triplet ship and then 1:06:24.760 --> 1:06:27.280 double up ship, which is ahead of his time when 1:06:27.320 --> 1:06:29.280 you did it, like, if you were ahead of your time, 1:06:29.320 --> 1:06:31.919 then doesn't mean you can't be ahead of your time now, 1:06:32.200 --> 1:06:34.440 because let's let's be clear. Let's be clear. If you 1:06:34.520 --> 1:06:38.000 listen to originators and you hear how y'all motherfucker's was 1:06:38.240 --> 1:06:41.000 hitting the cadence is a lot of people will call 1:06:41.040 --> 1:06:43.360 that like a down stoup style. They will say that, 1:06:43.920 --> 1:06:47.280 you know, all that flowed it was a certain rhyme style, 1:06:48.560 --> 1:06:51.640 and that's I kind of feel like that song was 1:06:51.680 --> 1:06:55.480 even called the Originators, that's why. And I'm not and 1:06:55.480 --> 1:06:58.040 that's not to douns out people because downshop people actually 1:06:58.080 --> 1:06:59.800 what I'm different. But when you when a person trying 1:06:59.840 --> 1:07:02.440 to do down South actual flow, I feel like they 1:07:02.560 --> 1:07:05.200 go when they like listen to Originators. Am I don't 1:07:05.240 --> 1:07:08.040 line for saying that or no, okay, no, that's the 1:07:08.360 --> 1:07:12.560 to me, that's the um, that's the foundation because wasn't 1:07:12.560 --> 1:07:15.400 nobody doing it. I think I think people say down 1:07:15.440 --> 1:07:19.960 South flow because of outcast who made that that south. 1:07:20.120 --> 1:07:23.120 I think down South more popular, but down South flow 1:07:23.240 --> 1:07:25.880 was really an accent of down South. When I say that, 1:07:25.920 --> 1:07:27.840 I don't mean down South people doing it. When people 1:07:27.920 --> 1:07:32.480 immulate the down South flow when you this is my 1:07:32.520 --> 1:07:36.520 down South flow, and I kind of feel like like 1:07:37.240 --> 1:07:40.560 they but the original one was the Originators and bucking 1:07:40.640 --> 1:07:42.960 on like nah, it's true, Okay, it's true. That was 1:07:43.000 --> 1:07:50.240 the original one. Um and it was actually the original Originators, 1:07:50.280 --> 1:07:55.800 which was on my second album. You know I had 1:07:55.840 --> 1:08:00.800 that flow back then. Yeah, and and and actually um, 1:08:00.880 --> 1:08:03.440 what that flow was it was a triplet. It was 1:08:03.480 --> 1:08:07.280 a triplet as opposed to like how they double time nowadays. 1:08:07.320 --> 1:08:10.800 It was a triplet style. Yeah, nobody was doing that. 1:08:14.280 --> 1:08:16.000 I'm not gonna lie. I just felt good about this. 1:08:16.080 --> 1:08:18.120 Hold on. I just didn't want to stop it. Like 1:08:18.160 --> 1:08:24.080 I just like, listen, we are friendly. Didn't put it 1:08:24.080 --> 1:08:28.559 over your no, no, hold on, hold on, this is space. 1:08:28.600 --> 1:08:30.439 We don't put that in the trash. Put it back down, 1:08:31.000 --> 1:08:33.920 put it back We're feeling good. We have motherfucking jazz 1:08:33.960 --> 1:08:39.639 O on the building. Man the Originator, one of the 1:08:39.720 --> 1:08:42.479 super legends. That's what this show was about. Man, the 1:08:42.520 --> 1:08:44.920 show was about. When we started this show, we wanted 1:08:44.960 --> 1:08:48.000 salute legends like you wanted to salute you know. Uh. 1:08:48.280 --> 1:08:50.840 The ellest thing about I always say the illest thing 1:08:50.880 --> 1:08:54.840 about motherfucking Batman. It's Clark Kent, right, that's Batman. No, no, 1:08:54.920 --> 1:09:07.439 that's Superman. That Superman saying by saying that hip hop 1:09:07.479 --> 1:09:10.440 to me is both like hip hop to me is 1:09:10.439 --> 1:09:13.440 is The illest thing about us is the our superhero capability, 1:09:13.600 --> 1:09:16.000 but then our normal capability. And that's what I love 1:09:16.160 --> 1:09:19.360 about our generation is that we just have to continue. 1:09:19.520 --> 1:09:21.360 And the thing is the thing that me and my 1:09:21.439 --> 1:09:24.599 partner we sat here and we thought about we said, Yo, listen, man, 1:09:24.840 --> 1:09:27.360 these people don't salute the people that have been here 1:09:27.439 --> 1:09:30.280 too long. They want to kick these people out and 1:09:30.320 --> 1:09:32.960 I gotta change that. We want to change that, and 1:09:33.000 --> 1:09:37.679 I believe we are changing that. So I just want 1:09:37.680 --> 1:09:39.360 to salute you, Jazz. I want to say how much 1:09:39.400 --> 1:09:41.240 you appreciate it. I want to say how much that 1:09:41.439 --> 1:09:43.200 I You know, I'm a hip hop fan, you know 1:09:43.240 --> 1:09:45.360 what I mean. So I've seen you, Like when I 1:09:45.439 --> 1:09:48.680 seen you know the history, Google everything, and I was 1:09:48.720 --> 1:09:50.559 just like, this is so dope. This is and and 1:09:50.640 --> 1:09:53.479 you know, for you and homie um, you know, to 1:09:53.520 --> 1:09:55.880 start out together, you know, go through, your go through 1:09:55.880 --> 1:09:58.320 and you're coming back together, that is a beautiful thing. 1:09:58.400 --> 1:10:00.800 I think this should be a man actified. That's what 1:10:00.840 --> 1:10:04.640 they're called, right. It makes that is bigger magnified. I 1:10:04.680 --> 1:10:06.599 feel I should be magnified. I feel like it should 1:10:06.600 --> 1:10:08.719 be saluted, and I feel like it should be praised. 1:10:08.880 --> 1:10:10.639 You know what I'm saying. And if anybody else ain't 1:10:10.640 --> 1:10:13.519 gonna do it, guess what, I'll be very happy to 1:10:13.600 --> 1:10:17.960 be the first one. And you have more than welcome, 1:10:18.160 --> 1:10:20.639 you know, on drink Champs anytime. You know what I'm saying. 1:10:20.680 --> 1:10:22.439 You want to promote some other ship, you want to 1:10:22.520 --> 1:10:25.240 go on here, you want to do your motherfucker you know, 1:10:25.360 --> 1:10:26.840 you know this is hip hop. This is what we 1:10:27.160 --> 1:10:29.360 made this for. We made this for legends, and I'll 1:10:29.400 --> 1:10:32.280 be gosh damn if every legend in the world don't 1:10:32.280 --> 1:10:34.840 feel welcome, and your motherfucking if you don't feel it, 1:10:35.000 --> 1:10:43.559 you have the motherfucking pass god damn thing. Let's pitch 1:10:43.600 --> 1:10:46.960 it and take some drops and I'm gonna finish. 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