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Speaker 1: front of me, what what do you what in your opinion?

423
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: What do you how can you break that situation? Now?

424
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: It's very simple, you know, um, one of the greatest

425
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: axioms I've ever heard is ship happens. Okay. But what

426
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 1: you say axioms? They need to take that one? What

427
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: the fund? Does that mean that I need that from

428
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 1: the later text me because I need to use that.

429
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: That was hard right now talking at the same time hard.

430
00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: That's hard to make that ship happens okay. But the

431
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: flip side of ship happens is that people react a

432
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: certain way. So the thing that's and that's the key

433
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: to it. Everybody focuses on the ship happens part, but

434
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: nobody focuses on how do you respond to certain things? So,

435
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: like you said, similar circumstances, right roles, reverse different responses.

436
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: Keep it right there, y'all think all of y'all get it,

437
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 1: And we need to have some money here to it

438
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: to take you know. I'm I'm gonna be honest, I

439
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: don't know where this rumor started up. We wouldn't that

440
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: he's been black balled for drinks. Absolutely not true at all.

441
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: I mean, no one will tell you the tooth. No

442
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: one in this deal. And we've just because we've only

443
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: been in this deal, like not even a year. No title,

444
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: everybody tell you the truth. The first people Title has

445
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: ever called for is deal. Yeah. They never asked for

446
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: somebody to be on and someone not to be on

447
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: that never they have, never the first time. That's why

448
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 1: I was impressed. I was like, this is dumb. I

449
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, me knowing the history because

450
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 1: that's something I would like to do for trash something

451
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: you know, Trash actually put me on. You know what

452
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We had our descriptancies and we still have

453
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: our descriptcy. I'll still seeing ship and be like this

454
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 1: nigg is out of his mind, but he's mama. And

455
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 1: I was like, that's that's real ship because it's one

456
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: thing that you're doing business and it's a whole another

457
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: thing that's to reach out and make ship happen. And that,

458
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: to me, I have to applaud that. Let's applaud that.

459
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: You know, it's a flawed that. But now now, because

460
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 1: now where does the original flavor come in? They come

461
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: in with Dame dash. Oh, that's why they hall of

462
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: Names right right, okay, and actually yeah but actually um

463
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: Ski is from North Carolina, but he was he was

464
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: living in Harlem. So hold on, that's that's that's not

465
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: totally different, completely different is different? Yeah yeah, ok yeah,

466
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah. See that's where Dame Dash comes in.

467
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: That's because probably to that there was no Dame that

468
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: there was no bigs right when you and okay, all right,

469
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: so this is this is good ship. It's good ship

470
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: for hipoply Gas. So yeah, so, um so actually one

471
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: of your previous guests, um Clark Kent, introduced Dame Dash

472
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: to Jay and then me and the rest of us

473
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: and give you a little uh something. Y'all might not

474
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: have known that. Um, the whole set up originally was

475
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: for Jay, myself and Sauce. We were a group and

476
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: we actually the name of the group, yeah, Paul's hard Pack,

477
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: hard Pack. There was a game in Miami careed hard Packs. Okay,

478
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: so that I was about to ask you with you

479
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: and j ever a group too, what was it the originators?

480
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: A no, no, that was just the record. Yeah yeah,

481
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: but hard pack. Let's take it from the hard Pack.

482
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: I like it. So so we did about we did

483
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: about I know, I'm gonna get calls behind. Um. So

484
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: we did about we did about six or seven songs together.

485
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: Um and uh, you know, Clark produced something, Ski produced

486
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: a couple. I produced a couple. And just to be

487
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: clear again, so everybody knows it's Jay Sauce money and

488
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: you Yeah, that's hard pack. Yeah, I just want to

489
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: make sure. So Jay Z gotta relax. Just black his

490
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: face out for the rest of the evers. It's not

491
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: gonna be that hard. Just stop. I'm not doing it

492
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: for you. Uh So. So, UM, there were slight descraping

493
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: seeds as far as like, um, you know, the decision

494
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: was sort of made that you know, Dane would would manager,

495
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: so he wanted everybody to sign and um to Rocket

496
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: Feller to Dane, to Dame's management, like to sign to

497
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: him his management, and everybody didn't want to do it.

498
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't feel like I should do it.

499
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: It had nothing to do with um my report with Dane,

500
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,239
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It was just something that

501
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: I felt didn't do. Yeah, and I think at that

502
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: time Sauce felt the same way. So that's what happened

503
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: with that. But um, but yeah, that was the that

504
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: was the beginning of that, Clark uh introduced all of us.

505
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: You guys had records though, is that six right? I

506
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,959
Speaker 1: wouldn't say records, I'd say recordings. Where they are? I

507
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: don't know wherever they are? Police surface, Yeah, I got yeah,

508
00:29:55,240 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: you know if you like ster Rynds, Buster Rounds got

509
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: DA's from eight. Do you ever hang out with Busting

510
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: round your listen? He is crazy? He having the he'd

511
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: be having the old school dats. I'll be wanting to say, yo,

512
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: how the fund? Do you even remember where he sent

513
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: his at like I'm doing. You never seen? He has

514
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: the rails, he has everything. But I'm sorry to cut

515
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: you off. No, no, it's cool, it's cool. So you

516
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: don't know what these records exists at all? No, Yeah,

517
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: some engineer is somewhere like this, somebody whatever. So it

518
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: just didn't make for a good joke. You know, that's

519
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: the hard packer. I definitely definitely that's hard man, that's hard.

520
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: That's hard. But um so now this London trip, right,

521
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: it's so it's so iconic because we get to hear

522
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: Jay even talk about like him going to London or whatever,

523
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: but ironically this London trip he actually went with you.

524
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: He was like, so came you to describe that for

525
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: the people, because the people, I mean, that's dope when

526
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: they see j and the Beama and it's like his history.

527
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: But it's it's it's it's it's dope and it's humbling

528
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,239
Speaker 1: to know that that. When I found out, I was like,

529
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: it was actually a trip that jazz oh from Jay

530
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: So so you could describe that. Yeah, So it was

531
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: the um you know, it was I don't know. I

532
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: don't well, I know why. I just don't want to

533
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: bro you know, do that to people. But we we

534
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: went to London to record my album, so it was myself,

535
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: J and RV Gotti and still the m R. Yeah,

536
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: this was yeah, this was Goody told us that it

537
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: was so yeah, so we um. So we were there

538
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: for like two months. EARV got homesick, he broke out

539
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: and we stayed. But it was it was a very

540
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: good experience. Besides the food, you didn't know how to

541
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: eat rot back there. I couldn't find a rollti. They

542
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: wouldn't take us to it. They wouldn't take us to

543
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: Brixton because photographers from London. Yeah, my first time, that's

544
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: the first thing they said they said, go see the

545
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: roster them and I went straight to the roster on them.

546
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: Now they told us, they told us go to the

547
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: studio because they know, you know what I'm saying, go

548
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: to the studio. We went to the y you know

549
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: sometimes you know, play some ball and back. You know.

550
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: I did have a flat in this affluent area somewhere.

551
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: I don't know where the hell we were, but we

552
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: were living good. But uh so, um that that was.

553
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: That wasn't a very great experience. It was. I couldn't

554
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: believe it, and I really I really couldn't grasp what

555
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: was going on until I had an actual um release

556
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: uh celebration shan you know, uh you know really for

557
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: the completion of the album in London, and we were

558
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: in a Cadillac stretch, which was almost like having a

559
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: Bentley stretch at that time. Here that was a ghost

560
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So basically, um, then it

561
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: hit me. I was like I'm doing it, you know,

562
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: because the whole time it's just like regular ship on

563
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: me Irvan j We clowning around ship. We go to

564
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: this this restaurant every Wednesday and we run into all

565
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 1: types of people that's coming through like I'm at Anita

566
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: Baker out there, Keith Sweat came out there, George duke

567
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: Man Live forever, um. So yeah, so it was it

568
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: was a great experience. But that's when I realized I

569
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: was like, oh, oh, this ship is real hip hop

570
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: and go it could really go exactly now you fort

571
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: to have jay Z on your cover? This is your album?

572
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,959
Speaker 1: What made you? What made you say that? Like, Yo,

573
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: that's that's who? Then are you saying yeah, Like I

574
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: wasn't the label. This is what I heard. The label

575
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: was like, what this is your album? You should be

576
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: on here solo? And what I heard you said that

577
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: this is what I want to do. But I just

578
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: want to hear from your mouth, like is that was

579
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: my bro? You know? And I felt like, let's make

580
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 1: some noise f man ship the real ship and I

581
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: st me stop you because poison't doing that at the time.

582
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: I you've seen it with Ray and Ghosts, right, Yeah,

583
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: you didn't know that came from here, that this was.

584
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: That was the first time someone put like every now

585
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: and then these pody see somebody with their HOMEBOARLD, their

586
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: dancers or their dances or somebody like that. You never

587
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: see somebody d D but was in a group together.

588
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: First I've ever seen the artists have another artist on

589
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: their couple. What's this? This is? This is the first time.

590
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm you know, and I don't remember.

591
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 1: I didn't remember. I remember you being the first one. Yeah,

592
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 1: that's all I remember. Goddam, I remember I got there. Okay,

593
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: So here just the three years agree where I was

594
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: just asking, like, what made you want to do that?

595
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, that's just who I am. Man,

596
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: I can't help it, Like you know, I'm not it.

597
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: You know, it's intellect behind it. It's like he deserved it.

598
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: And I felt like, damn all this bullshit I gotta

599
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: go through or that I went through to get to

600
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: that point. You know, he shouldn't have to go through that,

601
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So if I can make

602
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: it easy show his face and everybody like, well, what

603
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: does he do this time? I was like, she wrong,

604
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: you know, And so I basically that was just how

605
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: it was. You know, I didn't have I didn't have

606
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: like a steady DJ. So I was like, you know,

607
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: and I could be on here by myself, but that's

608
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: not that's just not how I feel about myself. And

609
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, our greatest value is our

610
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 1: value too up. Yeah, I'll you know whoever you whoever,

611
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: you express yourself too, and you know that to me,

612
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: that's your value. And I just that's what I was

613
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: just compelled to do, and I told I fought for it.

614
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, that's my man. And it's like,

615
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna have problems if he ain't on

616
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: them on the album, least on the back. They didn't

617
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: put him on the front, but on the back, it's like,

618
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: y'all gonna have problems. I'm not gonna cooperate and you

619
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: already gave me money. Let's let's salute to that man.

620
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: Come on, that'slute. That expect that meet a lot, like

621
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: a lot of them, tell your something. I know I

622
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: said it off camera, but I had to meet you

623
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: a lot that saying diego. I still haven't stopped shipping

624
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: from that from nine years ago, my bro because to

625
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: my boy cows. But I ain't gonna front. That's how

626
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: quiet taste, right. I think a rapper mixes brand as

627
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, the rapper from the West. I

628
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: think it's something that shot I got, I got a

629
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: shot at me. I want to that's not gonna happen.

630
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: That is not gonna happen, Sarah, We're gonna do a shot.

631
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: Come on, let's do a shot something. I'll tell you.

632
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: I gotta take my swetter off now to compone. You know,

633
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: a Cossi clothing. Jesus, you know what I'm saying. I

634
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: gotta support your homie. So um, alright, it's gonna start sweating.

635
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: We gotta start remember learning how to make sweaters without

636
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: the ship that stick to your ship. I just put

637
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: this shot on one time. Come on, remember there, it's

638
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: limited now, there's no more, no more time, especially with

639
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: the corona of virus. Ship got the stretcher, right, So listen,

640
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: let me just tell you something. I don't know if

641
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: you know, but our show is about bigging all legends up,

642
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: you know, every other every other culture. When you have

643
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: ten years or more, they call you season. There's people

644
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: right now getting seventy years old, having contracts and touring

645
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: the mother phone world and continue, and they call them season.

646
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: And our culture. No other culture is a word called

647
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: washed up. Only our culture. And I fucking hate that

648
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: me personally. I want to I want to say that

649
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: we are legends and we are superheroes, and we're going

650
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 1: to continue to motherfucking keep our legends and our superheroes

651
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: alive and keep your motherfucking relevant. That's what this show

652
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: was about. So we celebrate your life, we celebrate your legacy,

653
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: and we celebrate your career. And that's what the fun

654
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: Job said. So little old Sunny you got a shot?

655
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: Why you got the shot there today? I hope I

656
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: got a stretch over there for you. We just drink

657
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: virus the way you gave me the broken Yeah, let's

658
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: let's stop with the coronavirus. That's it too close in

659
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: my hood? Yeah, that's it was late. That's called tiger bones.

660
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: Actually it's actually a herb. It's actually not supposed to

661
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: be many herbs. It's not just one. Yeah yeah, but

662
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: you see one shot. That's we're supposed to do it.

663
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 1: So now now the rumor is, you know you want

664
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: you want jail, you're good Originators drop one of the

665
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: illest records. First, I'll subscribe that, like, because this is

666
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 1: the first time you see your man like like he's

667
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: shining and then he comes and he puts you on.

668
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: Originators is that how that or I'm missing a couple

669
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: of things. No, No, it was we you know, it

670
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: was during that that time and you know he was

671
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: bubbling and uh, you know, I guess the idea came up,

672
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: and I think that, um, they felt it inappropriate to

673
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: do a song like that, and it would be, um,

674
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: it would just be bigger to have me on song.

675
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: Oh you know what I'm saying. Um, so you know,

676
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: love is love and you know he called me, I'm

677
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: actually I'm actually writing a book, um that that gives

678
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 1: the account, you know, the backstory to all the events

679
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: leading up the student. You gotta have a script to

680
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: that book. Well, actually it's it's gonna be. Um, it's

681
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: a volume of um what I foresee as numerous volumes,

682
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: and it's basically gonna be like an analyzation of some

683
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 1: of my landmark versus and gives lessons in poetic license

684
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: like MoDiP is similarly metaphors. That's the right time to

685
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 1: say that, you know, because we want to tell you,

686
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: because the right time to do ship like that, because

687
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: content if you produce that ship or you produce it

688
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: and just you know what he's saying the book right

689
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 1: now that like me personally, I'm not a read book

690
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: a round. You know what I'm saying, Like watched the

691
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: Ship out of something, though you watched I watched the

692
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: ship and watch my next movie wait more than I

693
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: read your books. But I love the book to man. Listen.

694
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm not in the audio books yet. Okay, I'm not

695
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: into it yet. I feel like I'm gonna get into

696
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: it eventually, but I feel like I gotta go back

697
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: to reading some more. I'm reading Message to the Millennials.

698
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: UM's it Islam came he um, and he gave me

699
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: a book. I read the front praise today. I felt good,

700
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: um yeah, but then I realized the color. Yeah I read.

701
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: I read that. I read the one page and then

702
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: I read the back. I said stuck start start started,

703
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: and we yeah yeah. So okay, so what what what? What?

704
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: All right? What is your favor it thing in hip hop?

705
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: Is it making the record or performing the record? Mm

706
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: hmm ma. That's that's a tough one. But I will

707
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: I will say performing the record. And the reason why

708
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: I say that is because it's you well know, yeah, yeah,

709
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: how do you know what works exactly? You're gonna stand

710
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: in the way, but you know, as we all know

711
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 1: everybody doesn't really perform to the same extent as they're recording.

712
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: So to me, it's sort of like a crown achievement

713
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: when you could get on stage and you could give

714
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: it up the same way that ship sound on the record.

715
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it's special and it's special

716
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: and it's unique because everybody can't do it. You know,

717
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: everybody can't do it. So like I've always prided myself

718
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: on that on breath control, like all the technical ship

719
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: that you know, nobody gives a funk about when they

720
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: listen to a record, like, oh that ship banging when

721
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: it's in the club, and just do the other on

722
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: his riding music. That's all they're thinking about. That's all

723
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: they're supposed to think about. Your job is to do

724
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: all of the other things, the intangibles that make the

725
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: record what it is that makes them not think about

726
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: any of that ship. You know, that's that's ill because

727
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: that's you know again, you know, I could take this

728
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: young generation because I have to write. And that's the

729
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: difference between their music and all music is you can

730
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: tell we didn't punch in. You can tell we didn't

731
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: have the technology the technology to go, you know, stop this,

732
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: and that's why you see these guys, they all they

733
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: flows and going like this, and it's it's not that

734
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: they're going, which is exactly that's imps. And that was

735
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: my next question. It's ever been somebody who was scared

736
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: to say I don't I don't want to perform after him?

737
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: Oh hell no, never, never, never ever got to make

738
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: some noise for that. I mean on stage, stage, stage, stage, okay, club,

739
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk. You're that confidence, I'm jazz.

740
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: Oh right right right after the way this, I gotta

741
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: ask you that right now you're getting a record withhold.

742
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: Right now, you're taking whole head off. I ain't trying

743
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: to take his head off. I'm saying that you ain't

744
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: trying to take his head off. You just playing. But

745
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: now he's gonna he's gonna put his best foot forward

746
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 1: and put my best foot forward. I got. I got

747
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: great confidence in myself and I got great confidence in him.

748
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: And you know, I've told people like it's like y'all

749
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: think is sleeping, like you know, like it's it's so

750
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: crazy like for what we here, like he's still that

751
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: far beyond the nine percent. How you know what I'm saying,

752
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: and you gotta you gotta respect it. And and now

753
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: that's one thing I did for see. I was like,

754
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: as long as he maintains his normal health and everything

755
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: like that, he's gonna be able to go. You're gonna

756
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: always be able to go. And you know, Nigga is young,

757
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: middle age old whatever, like they still like I hear

758
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: stuff I don't. And I'm gonna tell you right now,

759
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: I don't really listen to too much ship. I barely

760
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: listened to my own ship. And like, I don't really

761
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: see nobody you know, fucking with him like that. And

762
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: if they do, they need to turn off all of

763
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: the auto tune and the super punchings and all that

764
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: other ship. We don't have no punch of Like, so

765
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: what timing was off is like, nah, I gotta do that.

766
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: You don't remember that ship eighteen pounds right? And it

767
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: was crazy. I used to be in D and D

768
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: where they had like, um, you know, they had sessions

769
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: where they had like you know, house music and ship

770
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: like that. So you know these little parts where Nigga's

771
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: going Nigga with the motherfucking um raised the blade yea,

772
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: Like I saw this one cat I can't remember his name.

773
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: He had like if somebody, if somebody slammed the door,

774
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: like he probably killed him. But because he had, like yo,

775
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, they had like thirty little slithers that

776
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: he had lined up that he had to take, you

777
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: know on as an edit you know, to do some

778
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: ill last crazy you know. You know. That's what I'm

779
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: saying when these kids be like I did, I did

780
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: the record that like it sounds like you did, Yo.

781
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: I think I sit in five minutes. I know you

782
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: put no affort at all, and your engineer didn't care.

783
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: Just aside, like they just aside. The engineer said, D

784
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: and D shout out to Premiere. You work with Premiere, right, Oh,

785
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: most definitely. Yeah, you know, I'm just you know, I'm

786
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: just saying it for the Premiere produce one of the

787
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 1: jay Z disc records. This is awkward. Let's just be clear.

788
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean that we got to talk about it, I believe,

789
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: so that's popped up so as I don't know, because

790
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: like I said, you had so many beach you just

791
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: go yeah, and then I don't really really kid man,

792
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 1: like I was, I was more listening to that stuff

793
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 1: like I would listen less to anybody else. If I

794
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: was tracking ship, I would be tracking who was listening

795
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: to my ship? You know, however that sounded, it is

796
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: what it is, and what was the actual discrepancy because

797
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: everyone when you when you google, like I said, I

798
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: had to do my research, and it's great that I

799
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: was like kind of like, you know, out of it yesterday,

800
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: so I had all the time to keep going. And

801
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: one of the stories it says, um that it was

802
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: over a contract. Nay. The truth of the matter is,

803
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: and I hate to burst a lot of people's bubble,

804
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: but it really wasn't anything. It was between the media

805
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: and certain crab as bullshit weak motherfucker's in the circle.

806
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 1: That was basically it, you know, saying saying certain things

807
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: like all right, I give you example, like like um,

808
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: and I'm not, I'm not I'm not boosting myself. I'm not.

809
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this egotistically, but I'm I'm sincere to

810
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: a fault sometimes because I give people too much credit.

811
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: So like if somebody says something or they'll say it

812
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: to me and they're disgrunted about something, and then it's like,

813
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: all right, that's confidential. I respect it. You know what

814
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So then if somebody, if you turn around

815
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: and the same person that said that to me goes

816
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: to the person and and they say something about me

817
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: and then say and try to fix what they said,

818
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: and then the person that they're talking to comes back

819
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: to me, then I gotta let it go because the

820
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,959
Speaker 1: same thing you're asking me to do, you ain't do it.

821
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: You just you you know what I'm saying. You just

822
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: let that ship loose. So it's like, nah, I'm not

823
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 1: gonna do it to the point where I'm gonna take

824
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: a blow for you and make myself look a certain way.

825
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: So it's like I'm gonna give it up. You know

826
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. This is what happened, is what happened.

827
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: You can put the nigga on the phone right now,

828
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm and say the same ship that I'm saying in

829
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: your face right now. So I'm sincere to a fault.

830
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of niggas around that time

831
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: in that circle, they ain't like that. They ain't like that.

832
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: And then you know some of them niggas, it was

833
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: just bitch ass niggas. They just wanted to be closer

834
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: to this dude, and they knew that there was nobody

835
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: closer to him than me because we was bros. You

836
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And that you know, that's just

837
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: that was that's it. That was just it. I don't

838
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: want to name names because I don't want nobody coming

839
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: at me and then I gotta hurt somebody, somebody hurt me.

840
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: I'm not impervious to paint to to to um injury,

841
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 1: but I am almost yet. But you know, it's it's beautiful.

842
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: It's beautiful to see men be men, you know what

843
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Because the thing about it is they say,

844
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: how you come in is how you go out? Right.

845
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: If you come in, you come in butt nicking, and

846
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: how you go out you go out. But Nick, and

847
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: the thing is if you can, you know, make amends

848
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: of the people you started with and y'all can get

849
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: some money together and do some business together, that's a

850
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. So like, how did that like how did

851
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: that comes seen? The first picture I believe was with

852
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: no I d yeah, so um And I don't know

853
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: I forget where that was that. I figured that first

854
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: picture in Chicago, Okay, okay, and he's from from from

855
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: the show so how did that happen? Like, because well

856
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: there was tell you something, not not the only the

857
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: industry was shocked, but they were happy. It's like the

858
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: first time they was like oh yes, like finally like

859
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: like you know, all the Jay's discrepancies, we you know,

860
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: we we can see without but this was something that

861
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: I think everyone was just like that's dope, Like this

862
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: is like sincerely a dope thing. Now the business part

863
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: was later, but let's subscribe that first picture when we've

864
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: seen it was you j and no idea. This is

865
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: for years of termoil going on in that boom. This

866
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: is it. Yeah. So for um, firstly, there was somebody

867
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: I was doing some business with in Chicago who's from Chicago. Um,

868
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: they're actually from Detroit, but they live in Chicago, and

869
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: you know, one of their main things was to put

870
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: us together. And I was like that's cool, that's great,

871
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 1: but you know, let me let me press the button

872
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: on that. So they just jumped the gun, and you know,

873
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's the perfect opportunity. This is

874
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: that and the other. So I'm like I'm a half

875
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: the least resistance guy, you know what I'm saying. So

876
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: I was like all right, let's see what happens. You

877
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I'm not worried. So um so

878
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: he said he you know, he talked actually talked to

879
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: uh Emery Jones, so homie. Yeah, so we so we

880
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: basically he so Emery set it up and um so

881
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: we got you know, we went to will Call and

882
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: we met in the green room and it was just

883
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: regular ship. Like I ain't seen him since last month

884
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: or something like that. He's like jazz, It's like Jay

885
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: was good, you know, handshake, hug. I could literally see

886
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: this going on, but literally and and and it was

887
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: it was. It was beautiful. It was beautiful. Um, And

888
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 1: I always liked my chances with ships, so I didn't

889
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: expect any I didn't expect anything negative, you know, because

890
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: I mean everything was you know, I wouldn't have got

891
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 1: that fall if it was you know, something was you know, right.

892
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: But um, the beautiful part about it was, Um, he

893
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: just stood in front of me and you know, I

894
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: didn't say much, and he didn't say much, but he

895
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 1: just went like this, and I was like, that said everything.

896
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: And I was like that takes me off the hook

897
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: because now I ain't gotta be awkward and say anything

898
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: and ship and he ain't gotta say nothing. So we

899
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: just thought some yes, what you've been up tune? You know,

900
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 1: a little ship, you know, nudges and ship like that.

901
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: You know, so it was beautiful. Now I ain't gonna

902
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: lie act the same and just being honest with you

903
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: like like like like it's it's the smoothness that's with you.

904
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: It's the same smoothness like you can tell like I

905
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: knew you weren't gonna yell this whole interview. I like,

906
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like that's like that's the

907
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: good thing. Like I said, I was just sold exhausted

908
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 1: that I don't want to subscribe myself as being sick yesterday,

909
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 1: but I was like I was exhausted, But the good

910
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: thing was I can still move my motherfucking fingers. So

911
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: I just kept watching everything like I watched everything about you,

912
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: like this is the thing is like I get into

913
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: our when I'm out the interview you, I'm you like

914
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: that's how much like I want to be in Cotnegro,

915
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And I just knew. And

916
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 1: the crazy thing is is that a marsy thing like

917
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: with y'all y'all, y'alln't blow y'all cool now, It's it's

918
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: not that because I mean I know a lot of

919
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: things like I got like, yo, man, chill out, they

920
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: just said what's up? But no, I think sometimes, I

921
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: mean it's an expression of our own egos when you

922
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: coming into contact with someone and you tend to, um,

923
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: you know, you have kendred spirits, So you like, I

924
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 1: like that, dude, he's cool. You know what I'm saying.

925
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: It's because you see the things that you like about

926
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: yourself and somebody else. So I think that has a

927
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: lot to do with it. And then around that time

928
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: up until like for so many years, like we were

929
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: around each other all the time, so it would be

930
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: times where somebody would say something and we would respond

931
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: with the same phrase at the same exact time that type.

932
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: So so yeah, maybe you know it resonates to this

933
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: day in some form of fashion. So then after you

934
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: got to see each other, Um, how does this business

935
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: deal happen? How does this happen? Because you know you

936
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: gotta see each other, that's great. Just making amends, That's

937
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: that's good enough. Like for me, like, yeah, you know, um,

938
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: if I have be for one of them a while

939
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: ago too. When that happened, right like like two or

940
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 1: three years ago, I think something like that. But then

941
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: now this deal is announced, your imprint, this is your

942
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: ship right, correct me if I'm wrong, and it's a

943
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: it's a distribution deal. Yes, it's a distribution deal. So

944
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: how does this happen? Like? Well, I mean it really

945
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: wasn't that complicated. Um, this happened. Um months later. This

946
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: was on the On the Run Too tour and he

947
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:06,919
Speaker 1: was in Detroit and so I told him, I said,

948
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: I was, you know, I was doing some business in

949
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: Detroit around the time, because one of my people told me,

950
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: he's like, yo, you know, um, same time you in Detroit.

951
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: You know your man is gonna be out there. I

952
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: was like word. I was like, so, let me see

953
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: what's going on. And then UM like yeah, man'd be

954
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: great to see you. And he was like, yeah, that's perfect.

955
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: So you know, same ship will call and we were

956
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 1: chopping it up and you know, he was just doing

957
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: this thing, relaxing, um. But he kept asking me like, so, yeah,

958
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: what's up, what you're doing, what's going on? You know?

959
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: And I was you know, I'm usually very transparent, but

960
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't you know, And you know, I said, you know,

961
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm just but I did tell the truth. You know

962
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know, I still you know, doing music.

963
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: You know, I'm waiting for the right opportunity, you know,

964
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 1: to to make certain things happen. Press some buttons. And

965
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: he was like all right, So he let it go.

966
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: He saw that I was sort of being a little

967
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: bit evasive. But long story short, you know, he was saying, um,

968
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: he was about to you know, prepare for you know,

969
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: the stage and everything, you know, so I basically pull

970
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: them to the side and chop it up with you

971
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: for a second, like you know. And I asked him.

972
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I know you got you know,

973
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: this this strow and this that and the other, and

974
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: that's what I needs. Like can you help me with that?

975
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: He was like saying, no more. Ill connect you with

976
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: my people now. Is it a goddamn at that moment

977
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: you had to humble yourself to do that or not.

978
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: Because some people feel like egotistical, they can't do it.

979
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: They can't ego is a big thing. They can't go

980
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: in Like some people can't can't remember their little homies.

981
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: Turn it into the big homie, you can't see you

982
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: you even though you see opportunity, you won't go for

983
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 1: the opportunity because the ego is in the way of it.

984
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: Like I can't do that because of this pride I have. Yeah, No,

985
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: but I mean I looked at the big picture, like

986
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: you know, opportunity knocks, you know, and and also um,

987
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: and deserving as well, because you could even be deserving

988
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 1: and not take the shot because of the pride, right right,

989
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: and and I felt like, um, and I still feel

990
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: that way. Um. You know, people say like, oh, it's great,

991
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: you know these things that are happening. You deserve it.

992
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: And I and I stopped him, and I tell them, like,

993
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: I don't deserve the ship unless I take it. You know,

994
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: it could be I could have all these accolades and

995
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: all that ship, but if I don't get it, I

996
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: don't deserve it, what I'm saying. So that's and and

997
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: I you know, that's when I just asked them. And

998
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't it wasn't a big thing for

999
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: him to do, and it wasn't a big thing for

1000
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: me to ask. You know what I'm saying. That's a

1001
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: beautiful thing though. Let me just say that outside of

1002
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: looking at it. You know what I'm saying, I mean

1003
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: because um to me, to me, that's exactly what it is.

1004
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: Man like you know, um, I know your brothers are brothers.

1005
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. That history y'all got

1006
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: so rich that it's like that's rich, that that's rich

1007
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: in itself. That's the definition that rich to me is

1008
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: when you have the rich history, when you have that

1009
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: type of ship like that, and um to see it

1010
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: coming back together in three sixty yeah yeah, hell yeah,

1011
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: hell yeah, that's that's motherfucking dope ship. So I just

1012
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: want to commend that. I want to salute that. I

1013
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: want to salute you. I want to thank you for

1014
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: being a part. But we ain't gonna be in there.

1015
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm gonna take some more. No, no

1016
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 1: more shots, right yeah, one of one more? But then

1017
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: you know three is my lucky number. We could do

1018
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: one more. I heard you how you running up and

1019
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: down the beach. I can't take to me because it's

1020
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: scarce right now, okay, all right, well, so um now

1021
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: when you see you come from the era, I know,

1022
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: I know this little crazy we well you come from

1023
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: error and then I come from the error right after you,

1024
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: where we avoided cameras at all costs exactly, like it

1025
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: was just totally different. Like now you walk around, these

1026
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: people are just filming you without how do you adapt

1027
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: self surveillance now, like everyone Jesus you don't like me

1028
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: and so gave me that. That's okay, I'll take it

1029
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: down times tonight. But how do you adapt to that

1030
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: like that? I mean with me. You come from the

1031
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: super drug dealer era and and and I don't know, yes,

1032
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: super drunk, you know what I mean. And no one

1033
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: wanted cameras. I don't know when people will be heated

1034
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: you take a picture of them. But so so so

1035
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: two stories. One as a child, like it was like

1036
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,439
Speaker 1: I never like and I had like one of those

1037
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: fathers is like trying to you know, just calling you,

1038
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: bribe you into it, like come on, let's take this picture.

1039
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't want to take a picture.

1040
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: You like, I get your quarter. You know back then

1041
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: quarter was like ten dollars a lot, so you know, um,

1042
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: back then the bag was down. Else said that, so um,

1043
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: so I don't really want to see a type of bone.

1044
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: That's what you cheated, not to you know, um, yeah,

1045
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: so as I got older, like yeah, you know, with

1046
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: the with the things going on, like nobody wants wanted

1047
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: to be in pictures and what was so funny? I

1048
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: just recently UM shot the video for the first single

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01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: uh M A R C Y And of course I

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01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: shot it in Marcy and you know, some of the

1051
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: ogs came out and I was like, yo, y'all want

1052
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: to getting this shot and he's like, now you gotta do.

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01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, man, a hundred years old, you

1054
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: can like you're still You're still do it. Ain't even

1055
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: that it's that cold they exactly, it's the cold. They

1056
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: fall like cold. My code is keeps a lotting my brothers,

1057
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 1: my people in there. I literally got the biggest shot

1058
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: here now I am here. Now will be little on

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01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 1: the plane. Lassy projects got you, you got jail, you

1060
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: got source, you gotta fleek. What's the new generation coming from? Right?

1061
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: Because you because I understand your dealer is a label

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01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: dere Yeah, well you can sign other people, correct, you

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01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: can have other people to distribution there excuse me, Okay,

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01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: no problem, let's talk about might just so weg wine

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01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: that that's the only thing that makes it work less,

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01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: drink some more like I'm sorry to be honest, I

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01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 1: mean I'm game. Okay, let's do it so you can

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01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: actually sign other people. What what would you look for

1069
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: in a new artist? Would you go back to Marcy?

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01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 1: Or what would you do if I got to? Okay,

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01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 1: I have to because so many, so many people fail

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01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: where they where they come from, like and for us,

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01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: that's a large that's that's a big part. It's an

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01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: integral part of what we are is where we came from.

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01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: So it's important to go back to where you came from,

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01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 1: find what you are or what you were, and and

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01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: nurture that. It's like helping yourself and if you could

1078
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: have that, you're trying to that for somebody else. Right,

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01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: it's the key to being a master and the servant.

1080
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: Like people look at a master and not realize that

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01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: a true master is to serving the vote. You know

1082
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's so you know, so it

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01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: just keeps going in the cycle for the most part.

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01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: So that was hard. A true master is a servant.

1085
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: You can't really be that guy unless you serve someone else.

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01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: That's so, what's the next step? So now we got

1087
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: the deal? You say you gotta take it. M hmmm.

1088
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: So what's the next step from man, Um, just push

1089
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 1: the hell out of this single project. You gotta tell

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01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: us about the project project. The project is called the

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01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: warm Up, which is more controversy. If anybody familiar with

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01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: you know another project that which is out now by

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01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: the time this comes out, it's out now. People need

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01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: to go pick it up now. Yes, UM, all all

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01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 1: major platforms. Um it's ten joints. UM. I recently had

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01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: a a listening party in Chicago that turned out really well,

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01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: and UM, the consensus of what I'm getting is everybody saying, Yo,

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01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: it sounds like a motion picture and you remember your thought.

1099
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 1: But you real hip hop? You're not. You're not you know,

1100
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 1: you don't got t pain on your ship, but do

1101
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 1: mean nothing pains not hipp not not pain, not real

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01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: hip hop. I'm not a rapper, but I'm not. But

1103
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: you know the atal tune. What I mean, you ain't know,

1104
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 1: you ain't got you ain't got a future joking about um,

1105
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Lane gay not one. And

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01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: that's that's no disrespect to anybody, no disrespecting myself. You

1107
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: gotta keep it. It's authentic to you. Yeah, yeah, So

1108
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 1: how difficult is that? Because making music and this time,

1109
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: do you try to cater to these new guys or

1110
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 1: do you say, funck these motherfucker's Let me stay in

1111
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: my lane? Well, what do we say? My The saying

1112
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: I always say to myself is is stick to my guns.

1113
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: When people ask earlier correlatively, ship happens? What was it

1114
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: called that word or axiom? What axiom? Axiom? What's the

1115
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: axiom for this one? Stick to your guns? Stick to

1116
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: your motherfucking comes the axiome? Goddamnit. So you kept hip hop? Yeah?

1117
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 1: I kept what I feel is hip hop. You know,

1118
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 1: I had to give them that triplet ship and then

1119
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: double up ship, which is ahead of his time when

1120
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: you did it, like, if you were ahead of your time,

1121
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,919
Speaker 1: then doesn't mean you can't be ahead of your time now,

1122
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 1: because let's let's be clear. Let's be clear. If you

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01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: listen to originators and you hear how y'all motherfucker's was

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01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: hitting the cadence is a lot of people will call

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01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: that like a down stoup style. They will say that,

1126
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 1: you know, all that flowed it was a certain rhyme style,

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01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: and that's I kind of feel like that song was

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01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: even called the Originators, that's why. And I'm not and

1129
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: that's not to douns out people because downshop people actually

1130
01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 1: what I'm different. But when you when a person trying

1131
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 1: to do down South actual flow, I feel like they

1132
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: go when they like listen to Originators. Am I don't

1133
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: line for saying that or no, okay, no, that's the

1134
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: to me, that's the um, that's the foundation because wasn't

1135
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 1: nobody doing it. I think I think people say down

1136
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 1: South flow because of outcast who made that that south.

1137
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 1: I think down South more popular, but down South flow

1138
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: was really an accent of down South. When I say that,

1139
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 1: I don't mean down South people doing it. When people

1140
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: immulate the down South flow when you this is my

1141
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: down South flow, and I kind of feel like like

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01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 1: they but the original one was the Originators and bucking

1143
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 1: on like nah, it's true, Okay, it's true. That was

1144
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: the original one. Um and it was actually the original Originators,

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01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: which was on my second album. You know I had

1146
01:07:55,840 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: that flow back then. Yeah, and and and actually um,

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01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 1: what that flow was it was a triplet. It was

1148
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: a triplet as opposed to like how they double time nowadays.

1149
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 1: It was a triplet style. Yeah, nobody was doing that.

1150
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I just felt good about this.

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01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: Hold on. I just didn't want to stop it. Like

1152
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 1: I just like, listen, we are friendly. Didn't put it

1153
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 1: over your no, no, hold on, hold on, this is space.

1154
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: We don't put that in the trash. Put it back down,

1155
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: put it back We're feeling good. We have motherfucking jazz

1156
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 1: O on the building. Man the Originator, one of the

1157
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: super legends. That's what this show was about. Man, the

1158
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 1: show was about. When we started this show, we wanted

1159
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: salute legends like you wanted to salute you know. Uh.

1160
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 1: The ellest thing about I always say the illest thing

1161
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 1: about motherfucking Batman. It's Clark Kent, right, that's Batman. No, no,

1162
01:08:54,920 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 1: that's Superman. That Superman saying by saying that hip hop

1163
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,440
Speaker 1: to me is both like hip hop to me is

1164
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,440
Speaker 1: is The illest thing about us is the our superhero capability,

1165
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: but then our normal capability. And that's what I love

1166
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: about our generation is that we just have to continue.

1167
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: And the thing is the thing that me and my

1168
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 1: partner we sat here and we thought about we said, Yo, listen, man,

1169
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: these people don't salute the people that have been here

1170
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 1: too long. They want to kick these people out and

1171
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: I gotta change that. We want to change that, and

1172
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 1: I believe we are changing that. So I just want

1173
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: to salute you, Jazz. I want to say how much

1174
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 1: you appreciate it. I want to say how much that

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01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: I You know, I'm a hip hop fan, you know

1176
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I've seen you, Like when I

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01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 1: seen you know the history, Google everything, and I was

1178
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: just like, this is so dope. This is and and

1179
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 1: you know, for you and homie um, you know, to

1180
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 1: start out together, you know, go through, your go through

1181
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 1: and you're coming back together, that is a beautiful thing.

1182
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 1: I think this should be a man actified. That's what

1183
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:04,640
Speaker 1: they're called, right. It makes that is bigger magnified. I

1184
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 1: feel I should be magnified. I feel like it should

1185
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:08,719
Speaker 1: be saluted, and I feel like it should be praised.

1186
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And if anybody else ain't

1187
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 1: gonna do it, guess what, I'll be very happy to

1188
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 1: be the first one. And you have more than welcome,

1189
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 1: you know, on drink Champs anytime. You know what I'm saying.

1190
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 1: You want to promote some other ship, you want to

1191
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 1: go on here, you want to do your motherfucker you know,

1192
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 1: you know this is hip hop. This is what we

1193
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: made this for. We made this for legends, and I'll

1194
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: be gosh damn if every legend in the world don't

1195
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: feel welcome, and your motherfucking if you don't feel it,

1196
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 1: you have the motherfucking pass god damn thing. Let's pitch

1197
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 1: it and take some drops and I'm gonna finish. Thanks

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01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs, hosten

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Speaker 1: by yours truly, d J E. F Fenn and n

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