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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly john Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: today's best minds. And Speaker of the House Mike Johnson

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Speaker 1: of queer kids in America. We have such a great

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Speaker 1: show today. Former Congresswoman Debbie macarsole Powell tells us about

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Speaker 1: her Senate run against one of the most unlikable members

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Speaker 1: of the Senate, Rick Scott. And then we'll talk to

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Speaker 1: Voto Latinos Maria Teresa Kumar about how Democrats can reignite

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Speaker 1: voter enthusiasm from Latinos. But first we have the host

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Speaker 1: of the Focus Group podcast, the publisher of The Bowork,

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Speaker 1: Sarah Longwoll. Welcome to Fast Politics, Sarah Longwow.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: It's great to be here.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have you because I had a

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Speaker 1: Republican thought yesterday. No so yes, I did. I had

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Speaker 1: a moment of like, I mean, I am very much

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Speaker 1: not a Republican and I very much do not agree

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Speaker 1: holicy wise with anything Nikki Haley is selling. But again,

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Speaker 1: last night you watched that debate and it feels to

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Speaker 1: me like there are people in the Republican Party like

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Speaker 1: Trump and De Santis who are really authoritarian, right. De

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Speaker 1: Santis is like, you know, his whole thing is like

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Speaker 1: Trump is not authoritarian enough.

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Speaker 3: And then the.

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Speaker 1: People like Nikki Haley, who's like and then that sort

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Speaker 1: of is like more normal. And then you have Chris

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Speaker 1: Christy trying to like stop the train almost. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I am defending Republicans. What is wrong with me? Help me?

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Speaker 2: Well, you're not defending Republicans exactly. I mean, so, I mean,

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Speaker 2: here's the thing Chris Christie is it was his swan song, right,

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Speaker 2: he is gonna probably drop out here not too long

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Speaker 2: and hopefully, you know, Indorse Haley and all the polling

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Speaker 2: indications I've seen, and just my gut says that the

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Speaker 2: Christie people are going to go to Nikki because she

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Speaker 2: is more normal. The thing is the reason that Chris Christy,

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Speaker 2: for all of his attacks and all of his truth telling,

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Speaker 2: the voters, Hay, Republican voters hate him, right, Like when

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Speaker 2: you say you have a Republican thought, actually what you

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Speaker 2: mean is is it's nice to watch Chris Christie attack

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Speaker 2: and Trump and tell the truth about them. And so

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Speaker 2: it's not quite a Republican thought, and look, yeah, Nikki

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Speaker 2: Haley is funny because there's a world in which she

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Speaker 2: In the world we live in, she's a throwback. And

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Speaker 2: for voters, you know, she is basically a pre Trump

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Speaker 2: I think that what I've seen from voters is that

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Speaker 2: they're like, she's fine, but like, I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: vote for her. She's not what they're interested in.

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Speaker 1: It's not red meat, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean she's up there talking about policies and foreign policy,

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Speaker 2: And I got to tell you, though, some of the

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Speaker 2: weird stuff I hear in the focus groups, I would

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Speaker 2: In fact, lots of reporters ask me, do you think

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Speaker 2: that the Republican Party will take Nikki Haley seriously because

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Speaker 3: Actually think that's going to be a huge deal.

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Speaker 2: I actually can't believe how many voters I've listened to

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Speaker 2: the focus groups, they're like, and their reasoning is a

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Speaker 2: lot of the people who say it are women, but

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Speaker 2: don't think that a woman can stand up to these

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Speaker 3: I don't know. These guys have never heard of Margaret

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Speaker 1: I mean, how do you feel when somebody says that

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Speaker 2: I don't care for it. I think it's not great.

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Speaker 1: It's like an internalized misogyny. That's like kind of insidious

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Speaker 2: So this is something that when you do the focus

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Speaker 2: So what these women are saying, and it's not just women,

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Speaker 2: And so what they're saying is is not that they

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing though about Nikki, she is the

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Speaker 2: I would be much happier if she were in second

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Speaker 3: And Wall Street.

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Speaker 2: poll in which she has edged out Ronda Santis. She's

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Speaker 2: at fifteen, he's at fourteen. Together, that equals twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: And so, in some ways I am a political nerd,

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Speaker 2: and so I love to watch the debates. There's a

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Speaker 2: whiff of futility in it all. What's the point because

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Speaker 2: it doesn't say anything about the current race, nor does

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Speaker 2: it really say anything about the future of the party.

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Speaker 2: Well that's not true. It does, but like Nikki and

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Speaker 3: They're just not.

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Speaker 1: So. When I was watching that debate on news Nation

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Speaker 2: They're already talking over each other, then Glenn Beck's talking

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Speaker 1: Let me let me preface this with being forty five,

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen it was Trump. Now it's authoritarianism.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the whole thing. And sometimes I'm not debating

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Speaker 1: It's anti democratic.

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Speaker 2: Of course it is anti democratic. There's one of the

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Speaker 2: these guys, because they are such idiot clowns, all just

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Speaker 2: last night being like, yeah, you know, January sixth was

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Speaker 2: the podcast host, and they were all doing like this

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Speaker 2: Trump's gone, just the whole party's lost. It's all gone

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Speaker 2: down this insane rabbit hole. And like what is the

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Speaker 2: News Nation thing?

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Speaker 3: Anyway?

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Speaker 2: Like with the R and C weird debates to News Nation,

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Speaker 2: I suffered through that debate last night, but I think

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Speaker 3: People doing intense analysis.

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Speaker 2: Over who won and who lost when Trump's up at

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Speaker 2: you know, sixty points, like it's all it's all just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we lost because we had to watch it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris Cuomo I called BS on this thing that

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Speaker 2: he said where he was like Biden and Trump are

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Speaker 2: the same and neither one of them is Jesus.

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Speaker 1: Did he say that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he said that it was either Biden would be

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Speaker 2: equally dangerous or Trump would be just as dangerous as Biden,

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Speaker 2: like whatever. There was some equivalency that was idiotic, which

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Speaker 2: I pointed out was idiotic on Twitter, and like immediately

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Speaker 1: No way.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I got COVID, I got we'll fuck

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Speaker 2: on News Nation. I got to have a debate in

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Speaker 1: I recently declined a news nation head. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: I never watched him before, Like, I didn't really have

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Speaker 2: me too right, It was like where he wasn't disclosing

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Speaker 3: Also, it all just doesn't sound that great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, it's not great. In case you're wondering,

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Speaker 1: none of this is good. We would like to have

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Speaker 1: and it is clann with the flamethrow. I think is

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Speaker 1: absolutely right. The question of like Trump has sort of

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Speaker 1: rigged some of these debates too, rit like he can't lose.

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Speaker 2: Iowa, Wait, what do you mean he's rigged the debate?

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Speaker 1: He has like consolidated some of the caucuses and done

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Speaker 1: some machinations behind the scenes making it easier for him

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Speaker 1: to win the nomination.

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Speaker 2: Sure, the infrastructure in the Republican Party belongs to Trump,

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Speaker 2: that doesn't mean he couldn't lose Iowa. I don't think

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Speaker 2: like if you go into Super Tuesday, it's winner take all,

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Speaker 2: winner take most in many of these states, and it's

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Speaker 2: There were only three candidates that they were interested in, Trump, DeSantis,

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Speaker 3: And I also think that Vivike's.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's the thing is he's like

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Speaker 1: Should they have even had debates if Trump wasn't going

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Speaker 2: Look, I think that there's a I don't know, it's

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Speaker 2: I thought that DeSantis knew some debate was stupid and unnecessary,

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Speaker 2: maybe a VP slot. I mean, Vivick's going to be

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Debbie macarsoal Powell is a former congresswoman for Florida's twenty

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Speaker 1: six congressional district and presently she is running against Rick

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Speaker 1: Scott for the United States Senate. Welcome too fast politics, Debbie.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Mollie for having me. I'm a big fan.

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Speaker 3: I love how you keep them honest. Glad to be

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm so happy to have you. So you are

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Speaker 1: running for Senate against Rick Scott, the least likable member

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Speaker 1: of the Senate. I actually think there are less likable

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Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about why you are the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Mollie, it wasn't long ago that this community here

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Speaker 4: And that happened at the time I was the associate

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Speaker 4: and so when I was in Congress, I expanded Medicare coverage.

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Speaker 4: am telling you Rick Scott is vulnerable. He's an extremist

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Speaker 4: who supports a national abortion band. He's the one that

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Speaker 1: It's funny because you were a medical school dean, and

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Speaker 1: Rick Scott made his money on Medicare fraud ish, so

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Speaker 1: you know you both are in medicine. Let's talk about

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, the state is a bright purple state.

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Speaker 4: I've been traveling around the state Molly already. I've had

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Speaker 4: seat and the Senate for self enrichment. His wealth has

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Speaker 4: four million dollars of his own money when he was

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Speaker 4: running in twenty eighteen so that he can buy the

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Speaker 4: seat basically, and it's a job that pays one hundred

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Speaker 4: and eighty thousand dollars and you have to ask yourself

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Speaker 4: why is he doing it? And we should all know

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Speaker 4: that he's doing it for self interest and self enrichment.

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Speaker 1: Florida is a really interesting state. I was just talking

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Speaker 1: to someone about Latino voters in Arizona. One of the

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Speaker 1: things that really helped flip Arizona blue probably before it

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Speaker 1: should was Sheriff Joe Arapaio. Do you see a similar

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Speaker 1: phenomenon happening with Ron de Santis in Florida?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yes, I've talked to that would never vote for Ron

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Speaker 4: DeSantis again. They felt the attacks under his leadership. He's

448
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Speaker 4: been attacking local municipalities, He's been attacking LGBTQ communities, He's

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Speaker 4: been attacking students, teachers, immigrants.

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Speaker 3: There is no group that he has not attacked.

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Speaker 4: And I can tell you that as someone like myself

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Speaker 4: who's Latina, who knows how to speak directly to our communities,

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Speaker 4: I've been very in here in South Florida across the

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Speaker 4: state talking about issues like gun violence. This is an

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Speaker 4: issue that's personal for me, Molly. I had lost my

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Speaker 4: father to gun violence. And I've been working for the

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Speaker 4: past few years with Gabby Giffords on trying to reduce

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Speaker 4: gun violence in the state and across the country.

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Speaker 3: But this is one of.

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Speaker 4: The top issues for Latinos here in Florida and across

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Speaker 4: the state. We suffer two of the worst mass shootings

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Speaker 4: in the state of Florida at polls in Orlando and

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Speaker 4: at Marjorie Stoneman Douglas. And it's an issue that drives

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Speaker 4: people to the polls, whether you're Latino, whether you're a

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Speaker 4: black voter, a woman who is dropping her kids off

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Speaker 4: at school every morning and is always worried that something

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Speaker 4: could happen. And so when we talk about these issues,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. They put partisanship aside. And this is

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Speaker 4: a state that does that. We've seen it time and

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Speaker 4: time again. It's a state where the races are always

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Speaker 4: very close, but Floridians are independent, They have an independent street,

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Speaker 4: and they vote for the candidate, not for the party

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Speaker 4: per se.

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Speaker 1: I'm really interested in that. It seems to me like

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Speaker 1: the kind of effects of being in Florida, Like if

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Speaker 1: you think about what happened in Kansas under brown Back,

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Speaker 1: why don't you when you talk to voters on the ground,

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Speaker 1: because you are talking to a lot of Florida voters

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Speaker 1: on the ground, what don't they like about the d

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Speaker 1: scientists because d Santis has pretty much used his governorship

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Speaker 1: as a way to audition as a as a Republican

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Speaker 1: presidential nominee. So explain to us what that looks like

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Speaker 1: on the ground for voters.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Molly, Florida has right now some of the highest

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Speaker 4: inflation rates in the country. We have an affordability crisis.

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Speaker 4: People cannot pay their rent, they can't pay their mortgage.

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Speaker 4: Homeowners insurance has skyrocketed. And this actually started under Rick

488
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Speaker 4: Scott when he was governor. He took away money from

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Speaker 4: the public option here and gave it to private insurers

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Speaker 4: that were making money and also of course contributing to

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Speaker 4: his campaign.

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Speaker 3: And here we are.

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Speaker 4: People to think about whether they're going to be will

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Speaker 4: continue living in the state because they can't afford it.

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Speaker 4: This is a union problem in the state of Florida

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Speaker 4: under dessientists, something that started under Rick Scott, and that's

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Speaker 4: the top issue when you talk to anyone here living

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Speaker 4: in the state, that's the top issue. And that includes

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Speaker 4: business owners because imagine if you own business in the state.

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Speaker 4: Your prices for that mortgage or for the cost of

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Speaker 4: property insurance, all of that has gone up, and yet

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Speaker 4: wages have not gone up. Right here in the state,

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Speaker 4: in Florida, we sale pay our teachers less than the

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Speaker 4: national average.

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Speaker 3: Young Americans who graduate.

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Speaker 4: From college, they look to leave the city. That's the

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Speaker 4: top issue, That's what we're talking about. And I think

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Speaker 4: that's also going to reject a lot of the Republican

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Speaker 4: agenda here in the state.

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Speaker 1: So one of the things Rick Scott has done is

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Speaker 1: sort of trying to take control of the Republican Party

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Speaker 1: in a very kind of weirdly ham handed and stupid way.

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Speaker 1: And you know he has this Remember he and Mitch

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Speaker 1: McConnell really clashed over this plan for America, which was

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Speaker 1: to basically be Paul Ryan. What do you think about that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, clearly Rook Scott has higher aspirations.

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Speaker 4: This guy is a political opportunist, right. I mean you

518
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Speaker 4: mentioned it earlier, but when he was CEO of a

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Speaker 4: healthcare company, he oversaw the largest Medicare fraud in the

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Speaker 4: history of our country. They had to pay out one

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Speaker 4: point seven billion dollars from that settlement for Medicare fraud,

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Speaker 4: and he continues to just go to wherever he can

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Speaker 4: be to make the most money for himself. And he

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Speaker 4: oversaw the National Republican Senate Committee in the last selection.

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Speaker 4: He actually spent all the money that they had and

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Speaker 4: they lost every election cycle. That plan that he wrote

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Speaker 4: to sunset Medicare, social Security, the Affordable Character also includes

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Speaker 4: raising taxes for Florida families and everyone in the country.

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Speaker 4: And that plan would affect my own mom. My mom

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Speaker 4: lives with me. I've had to take care of her.

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Speaker 4: She's had a lot of health issues, and if it

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Speaker 4: weren't for those programs that her life saving care, I

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Speaker 4: don't know where she would be and where she would

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Speaker 4: be if I wasn't able to also help her and

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Speaker 4: take care of her. And that's something that I also

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Speaker 4: want to focus on because young people are not thinking

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Speaker 4: about this, but there's so many of us that have

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Speaker 4: parents that we need to take care of, and the

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Speaker 4: cost of taking care of.

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Speaker 5: Them is really, really high.

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Speaker 3: And here you have this man.

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Speaker 4: Who wants to hut and actually sunset these programs that

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Speaker 4: would take away all the coverage for seniors in a

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Speaker 4: state where the majority of the Floridians we have a

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Speaker 4: large number of seniors that live here in Florida that

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Speaker 4: rely on those of that, so he is the most

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Speaker 4: vulnerable Republican in the country. Mitch McConnell actually kicked him

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Speaker 4: out of the Commerce Committee. I don't know if you

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Speaker 4: remember that. There is no love between Mitch McConnell and

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Speaker 4: Rick Scott. Mitch mcconnald. The one thing that I agree with,

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Speaker 4: I agree with him on one thing, and he said

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Speaker 4: that Rick Scott is going to have a very hard

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Speaker 4: time in his reelection in his home state.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's really an important point. You know,

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Speaker 1: you do have a lot of older people in Florida.

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Speaker 1: Funny because I'm going through that with my parents now,

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Speaker 1: with my mom and my stepdad. It's unbelievably expensive too.

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Speaker 1: The whole situation is so badly set up and shockingly expensive.

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Speaker 1: Florida also has really felt the effects of climate change

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Speaker 1: in a way that I think a lot of states

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Speaker 1: have not, with the algae and the hurricanes. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what are you see in climate wise on the ground,

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Speaker 1: and our voters concerned about that are now.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: And here's something that I think maybe people don't realize.

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Speaker 4: When Rondo Santis ran and was elected, and part of

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Speaker 4: his popularity at the beginning was that he talked a

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Speaker 4: lot about the environment. Now, when I was in Congress,

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Speaker 4: I actually led the effort to bring to Florida two

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Speaker 4: hundred million dollars for Everglades restoration, and of course DeSantis

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Speaker 4: and Republicans took credit for that.

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Speaker 3: That was under a House Democratic majority.

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Speaker 4: I had done a lot of work here with Choral

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Speaker 4: Restoration Foundation in protecting our choral reefs. The state of

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Speaker 4: Florida has the only living reefs in the entire continent

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Speaker 4: United States. And we have seen that the warming of

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Speaker 4: the oceans really affects growries, and of course that affects

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Speaker 4: all of the sea lives and the fisheries and the

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Speaker 4: businesses that rely on a healthy environment. And Rick Scott,

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Speaker 4: when he was governor, he actually banned the term climate

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Speaker 4: change to be used in any of the state agencies.

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Speaker 4: This man will never ever deal with the issue that

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Speaker 4: we're facing in Florida, which is stronger storms, destruction and

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Speaker 4: coastal communities, businesses that are affected that have yet to

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Speaker 4: receive the relief that they deserve from these storms. And

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Speaker 4: this is happening all over the state. And we've been lucky,

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Speaker 4: Molly here in South Florida. We haven't had a severe

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Speaker 4: storm in the past few years. But there are people

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Speaker 4: that have been talking about the effects of a storm,

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Speaker 4: of a hurricane five of it.

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Speaker 3: If it hits Miami, the economic impact.

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Speaker 4: Would be disastrous for the economy of the state and

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Speaker 4: also for the country.

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean, let's all remember that we're all connected.

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Speaker 4: Florida is the third largest state in the country, the

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Speaker 4: third largest economy that contributes to to America's economy. We

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Speaker 4: have to pay attention to this and we have to

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Speaker 4: make sure that we protect the state from the extremism

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Speaker 4: that is under Dessantist Scott and so many other politicians here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean just really scary stuff. As the temperature

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Speaker 1: goes off, we will see more storms, right, We will

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Speaker 1: see more storms, more volatility was weather, more flooding, more danger.

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Speaker 1: And Florida really is a state where, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: have big cities like Miami that are already seeing real

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Speaker 1: problems from flooding.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And part of when I talk about Everglades right and

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Speaker 4: investing in that restoration project, is because we haven't had

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Speaker 4: fresh water flowing down to the bay, which is critical

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Speaker 4: for the health of our environment, and so that's why

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Speaker 4: we've seen so many those images of fishkill. And that

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Speaker 4: happened a lot under Scott because he actually also repealed

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Speaker 4: protections for the Environmental State Agency here when he was

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Speaker 4: got and so you see the results of that. That

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Speaker 4: fishkill is because they can't breathe underwater because they're not

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Speaker 4: getting fresh water. The everglade serves as this filter for

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Speaker 4: water to flow south. And you know, I can go

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Speaker 4: on and on. It's an issue that I'm very passionate about. Actually,

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Speaker 4: before I worked at FIU as the associating at the

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Speaker 4: medical School, I worked at the Zoo. At Zoo Foundation,

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Speaker 4: I worked with Ron McGill. I did a lot of

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Speaker 4: work on conservation projects. And so it's coming from Ecuador.

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Speaker 4: Being born in my home country of Ecuador, we really

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Speaker 4: pay attention to our environment and how it affects our livelihood.

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Speaker 3: And it's something that I'm very passionate about.

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Speaker 4: And it's also a factor that will motivate voters in

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Speaker 4: Florida and particularly young voters. I've been talking to students

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Speaker 4: already about this, and their top two issues is the

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Speaker 4: environment and gun violence.

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Speaker 1: Talk to us about one of the things we have

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Speaker 1: seen a lot of. Is this anxiety about Democrats winning

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Speaker 1: over Latino voters. What should they be doing?

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Speaker 3: Well, look, only in a state like Florida.

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Speaker 4: Was it possible for me, an immigrant that came here

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Speaker 4: at fourteen, to go from a working at a minimum

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Speaker 4: wage shop, working at a donut shop, then graduate college,

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Speaker 4: become an associated at the largest public university here in

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Speaker 4: the state, one of the largest ones, and then be

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Speaker 4: elected to serve in Congress.

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Speaker 3: And just recently I was talking to this.

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Speaker 4: Fi used student who was interviewing me for the paper,

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Speaker 4: and he ended the interview saying, my mom came here

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Speaker 4: also like you, when she was young as a teenager,

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Speaker 4: she was thirteen, and she's so excited about your candidacy,

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Speaker 4: and she is so excited to be able to vote

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Speaker 4: for someone like herself that will work to lift up

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Speaker 4: our voices in Washington. And I hear that all the time, Molly.

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Speaker 4: I've been influent in Spanish. I've been talking all over

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Speaker 4: the state to whether it's Puerto Ricans in Central Florida,

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Speaker 4: whether it's Venezuela and Colombia and Cuban Americans down here

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Speaker 4: in South Florida, and they understand that Our values are

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Speaker 4: the same, protecting our families, security, making sure that they

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Speaker 4: can just have opportunities to work and make against me.

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Speaker 4: That's what we care about, and that's going to be critical.

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Speaker 4: And Latino voters, by the way, continue to vote more

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Speaker 4: for Democrats than Republicans and aim it to Florida two

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Speaker 4: to one. We cannot ignore that fact, and we need

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Speaker 4: to be ful about the fact that we continue to

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Speaker 4: do the work to vote for the right candidates. It's

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Speaker 4: about talking to them, meeting them where they're at, which

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Speaker 4: is what everyone always says.

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Speaker 3: But I'm here.

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Speaker 4: I want everyone to come down here, meet my people

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Speaker 4: where they're at, and they're right here in the state

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Speaker 4: of Florida, ready to keep the Senate majority and ready

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Speaker 4: to continue to protect democracy.

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Speaker 1: Such a good point. Thank you so much, Debbie. I

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Speaker 1: hope you'll come back.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Molly. It's always a pleasure anytime.

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Speaker 1: Maria Theresa Kumar is the leader of Voto Latino. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Fast Politics, Maria Theresa.

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Speaker 3: Thanks much for having me. Molly. This is such a tree.

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Speaker 1: It's such a treat because here's the saying, I am

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Speaker 1: always thinking about what you do at Voter Latino, and

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Speaker 1: then I also really like you and we're friends. So

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Speaker 1: it's like it's not so often that like there's someone

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Speaker 1: who's like exactly someone I need to have on the

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Speaker 1: podcast to talk with right away, and who I also

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Speaker 1: want to talk to because we're friends. So it's very

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Speaker 1: delightful for me. I've written about this extensively. We've talked

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Speaker 1: about the socially like polls are not real, but also

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Speaker 1: what are Democrats going to do in order to not

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Speaker 1: lose the presidency and also democracy in states like Arizona, Nevada,

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Speaker 1: Florida discuss so much.

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Speaker 5: So, first of all, Molly, I have to say I'm

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Speaker 5: thrilled around your podcast because you are officially my very

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Speaker 5: first Twitter friend that I met a human.

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Speaker 1: For and that I had mutual This is.

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Speaker 5: The challenge that I have right now with the Democrats,

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Speaker 5: I'll be honest, Since twenty eighteen, since since the rise

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Speaker 5: of the Autocrat want to be fascist in Trump, Democrats,

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Speaker 5: not necessarily the party, but Democrats the progressive movement have

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Speaker 5: known how to communicate and mobilize folks to participate in

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Speaker 5: our elections in record number, and we keep winning.

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Speaker 3: Right most recent.

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Speaker 5: Example is that we just won in Ohio. Not small

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Speaker 5: but big, and it was the passage of supporting a portion.

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Speaker 5: And then people get back into the room and they

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Speaker 5: start ringing their hands. They're like, well, what do we

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Speaker 5: do now, Well, continue investigating in that coalition, don't gart

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Speaker 5: an experiment with something new. We actually have a winner

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Speaker 5: among us, and that is the majority of American When

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Speaker 5: you start talking to them and communicating with them and

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Speaker 5: you share with them what is on the line, they

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Speaker 5: get it. But what the Democrats have historically done is

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Speaker 5: they wait until the very last minute, and in doing so,

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Speaker 5: you have an opposition not just in the extreme right

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Speaker 5: of the Republicans, but increasingly nefarious actors from across the borders,

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Speaker 5: through the Russians and Chinese or actively trying to get

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Speaker 5: people to solidify themselves not for either party, but for

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Speaker 5: not believing in democracy and institutions. And that to me, Molly,

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Speaker 5: what I take a back is what concerns me the most.

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Speaker 5: We are in an information presidential warfare, and we as

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Speaker 5: progressives haven't even started to engage in those conversations.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we had John Ralston on the podcast from Nevada.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's a state where Democrats are hanging on

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Speaker 1: but are imperil can you explain to us a little

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Speaker 1: bit about what's happening there and what needs to happen there.

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Speaker 5: Investment, malle I will share with you. In twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 5: the Nevada race was closer than it had to be

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Speaker 5: because there was this idea that Latinas were defecting to Republicans.

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Speaker 5: Actions speak louder than polls. If you look at the

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Speaker 5: returns that happened to Nevada, if you look at the

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Speaker 5: returns that happened in Arizona, if you even look at

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Speaker 5: the returns that happen even in Texas. In the twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty two midterm election, there was no defection. If anything,

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Speaker 5: there was a solid base, but there was a lack

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Speaker 5: of investment. So give you an idea. Everybody was it

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Speaker 5: was saying, you know, Georgia was the election to watch.

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Speaker 5: That's not We're at Votalta where we were watching. We

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Speaker 5: were watching Nevada in Arizona because we learned in the

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Speaker 5: middle of September that fifty percent of Latino voters had

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Speaker 5: not been contacted in Arizona alone.

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Speaker 3: Fifty percent.

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Speaker 5: Why Molly, It's because the majority of the voters, a

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Speaker 5: third of the voters in Arizona are under the age

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Speaker 5: of twenty nine. By Democratic progressive math, the way people

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Speaker 5: run elections is that they only contact voters who have

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Speaker 5: a history of voting five times. So someone who is

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Speaker 5: twenty nine years old, they haven't voted five times, they

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Speaker 5: don't have a history of voting. But are they aligned

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Speaker 5: with democratic values? Are they aligned with women's agency over

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Speaker 5: their body? And are they aligned over LBGQ issues and

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Speaker 5: you know, gun reform and environment.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: But if you don't call them and you don't tell

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Speaker 5: them what's happening, and you don't tell them what's up,

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Speaker 5: they won't participate. So we actually at VL we actually

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Speaker 5: had a transfer close to four million dollars in an

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Speaker 5: investment in Arizona and Nevada alone, even though we were

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Speaker 5: supposed to do it in five other states. Long story short, Molly,

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Speaker 5: we did a post back of the napping analysis of

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Speaker 5: what happens in Nevada. Basically, in Nevada we lost the

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Speaker 5: governorship the top of the ticket because of seventeen thousand

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Speaker 5: They were short seventeen thousand votes, Wow, more than two

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Speaker 5: hundred and fifty thousand dollars. And you know those voters

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Speaker 5: were local Pency.

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Speaker 3: Latino youth. They just right, I'll tack them. So it's

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Speaker 3: not like we're.

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Speaker 5: Not talking about millions of dollars in certain cases, We're

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Speaker 5: just talking about attention and nurture.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a really good point. If you don't

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Speaker 1: get out there, people don't know. And college campuses are

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Speaker 1: so are so interesting too. It's funny when you're talking

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Speaker 1: about these results. I think about Wisconsin right where people

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Speaker 1: told me Mandela Barnes had zoo shot in the end.

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Speaker 1: Had the polls been a little closer to what it

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Speaker 1: actually was, he could have met he could have beat

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Speaker 1: Ronan On Johnson. And so I feel like this is

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Speaker 1: the discussion we're having this discussion about. Like we started

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Speaker 1: this discussion with me making an excuse for polling, for saying, like,

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Speaker 1: I know, polls are stupid and a lot of times wrong,

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Speaker 1: And now we were as we're in this conversation, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about how wrong these polls were and how these

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Speaker 1: inaccurate polls actually rob Democrats of victories that they should

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Speaker 1: have had.

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Speaker 5: Well, well, Mollie, and you hit the nail and had

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Speaker 5: these poles. Oftentimes you have to see who is often

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Speaker 5: behind the first wave of polling. I say this because

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Speaker 5: remember when the last year during the midterms, everyone was

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Speaker 5: saying that there was going to be a red wave,

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Speaker 5: that majority of it came from GOP operatives. They actually

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Speaker 5: have skin in the game to prevent people from participating.

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Speaker 3: What we know now, Mollie is that.

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Speaker 5: The biggest thing that polls do is try to suppress

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Speaker 5: low propensity voters who think that their vote doesn't matter

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Speaker 5: to begin with. And this kind of solidifies it, and

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Speaker 5: so it makes our work harder. And so I would

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Speaker 5: just encourage newsrooms to just be much more cautious and

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Speaker 5: actually look at historical participation to see when initiatives come in.

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Speaker 5: I mean the fact that they thought that Ohio was

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Speaker 5: going to be close, but abortion was on the ballot,

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Speaker 5: they learned nothing from Kansas or any other state that

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Speaker 5: casst it right. It's almost we're living in a moment

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Speaker 5: where information is dynamic or constantly they are engaging, whether

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Speaker 5: in your podcast or on TikTok or what have you,

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Speaker 5: finding information in real time, and that actually serves a

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Speaker 5: lot of voters in a way to be well informed

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Speaker 5: and concerned when they get the information that they need

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Speaker 5: in order to make the best decision. For themselves. And frankly,

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Speaker 5: when people talk to me about pulling, I just I mean,

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Speaker 5: we need to vl we need to understand pulling as well.

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Speaker 5: But oftentimes the wave of pulling that is first announced

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Speaker 5: in the media does not coincide with even internal pulling

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Speaker 5: among organizations. And I wonder if it's because they are

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Speaker 5: pulling older voters that are still landlined. They're not actually

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Speaker 5: looking at a diverse demographic on younger demographic that does

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Speaker 5: have a different true north when it comes to this country,

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Speaker 5: and in that is like, you know, climate change is

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Speaker 5: very real. I give a damn.

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Speaker 1: I think that's right, and I think that that's a

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Speaker 1: really good point. And you know, it's funny because it's

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Speaker 1: like I was watching CNN as those off off your

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Speaker 1: election results came in, and I thought for sure Democrats

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Speaker 1: were going to lose in Virginia. They flipped a state house,

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Speaker 1: Andy Bursher and Kentucky got re elected by a larger

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Speaker 1: margin than the first time. And I'm watching this thing

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Speaker 1: where they're talking about Biden's poor poll numbers.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know, I want to go back to,

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Speaker 5: you know, the article that you wrote. I think that

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Speaker 5: is one of the things that got you know, got

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Speaker 5: us mind melding again, Molly. And the challenge with polls

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Speaker 5: is that it looks at a moment in time, but

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Speaker 5: in a myopic sense, right it's almost giving to the

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Speaker 5: public that we are doing elections and running elections as

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Speaker 5: if it were scenarios of business as usual. We are

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Speaker 5: not in that moment in American history right now. Democracy

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Speaker 5: absolutely on the line, our access to agency, of our

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Speaker 5: bodies on the line. Just being a citizen in America

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Speaker 5: is on the line, and we do a disservice when

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Speaker 5: we just do something that is a point in time

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Speaker 5: and not to the bigger call to action of we

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Speaker 5: need every single American who is a patriot to participate,

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Speaker 5: to toe the line, because otherwise we're going to be

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Speaker 5: in much tougher straints down the line. And I think

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Speaker 5: that that was the essence of the article that you

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Speaker 5: wrote that I think so resonated to me, is that somehow,

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Speaker 5: when Trump was in office, we were constantly sounding the

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Speaker 5: alarm of his dangers, and now we're almost romanticizing him.

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Speaker 5: And now it's like a collective movement of does he

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Speaker 5: even have a shot? He shouldn't have a shot at all.

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Speaker 5: If the American people were reminded of what he did

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Speaker 5: last time and how he has already given to us

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Speaker 5: agenda of solidifying his power at the moment he steps

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Speaker 5: into that office, and there is not enough concern or

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Speaker 5: staying to the very look that we are right now

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Speaker 5: in code read in twenty twenty four, if we have

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Speaker 5: a repeat of a Trump administration, right.

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Speaker 1: The whole idea that we're going to have the freedoms

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Speaker 1: of like the free press. I think Trump gets re elected.

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Speaker 1: I mean we saw him the first administration stripping you know,

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Speaker 1: he stripped a cost of his hard pass. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, anyone who he didn't like he just kicked out.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's certainly true. It's not even a

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Speaker 1: question in my mind. But I think it is important.

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Speaker 1: Like the voters since Trump has been elected have showed

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Speaker 1: us really they don't like this. Yes, And I think

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Speaker 1: a lot about like so much of twenty sixteen's coverage

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Speaker 1: was like Hillary Clinton is going to be the next president,

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Speaker 1: and here's what she's going to do, and so little

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Speaker 1: of it was like this would be what happened if

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Speaker 1: Trump got elected, because it just seemed like it would

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Speaker 1: never happen.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: I remember going into you know, Cock deals with different

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Speaker 5: reporters in DC, and they were like, Oh, I have

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Speaker 5: to finish this drink, but I'm gonna go cover Trump.

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Speaker 3: And everybody thought it was funny.

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Speaker 5: And I remember Detepely telling them he's telling us what

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Speaker 5: he's going to do, and people kind of batted it

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Speaker 5: away because they thought that they he was the side circus,

872
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Speaker 5: and in fact we became the circus, and he became

873
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Speaker 5: the one that was orchestrating how he wanted the country.

874
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Speaker 5: You know this the latest news of you know, Univision

875
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Speaker 5: giving him a softball interview is a perfect example of

876
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Speaker 5: what happens when a foreign entity owns our airwaves. Molly,

877
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Speaker 5: Foreign entities in Latin America understand how to play ball

878
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Speaker 5: with autographs. This is their wouse. What they have a

879
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 5: hard time navigating is America in laws, institutions, and norms.

880
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 5: We had to take him at his word. When he

881
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Speaker 5: did go after journalists, he would throw them out, but

882
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Speaker 5: he would also I mean, I remember, do you remember

883
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Speaker 5: during the George Floyd when he want send it in

884
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Speaker 5: the National Guard. Yes, that is what you experienced in

885
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Speaker 5: other countries, not in the free press here. And I

886
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 5: have friends that were reporting, and they felt like they

887
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Speaker 5: were saying. In one case, one was like, I was

888
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Speaker 5: in Latin America during you know, during insurrections reporting. That's

889
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 5: what I felt like in that moment in time. That

890
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 5: should be chilling for all of us. It's not going

891
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Speaker 5: to be that he's going to pinpoint a sector. It's

892
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Speaker 5: going to be anybody who is on the wrong side

893
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Speaker 5: of him. You know, when he had asked him, as

894
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Speaker 5: a softball question, are you going to be an autocrat

895
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Speaker 5: and a dictator? He said, no, just the first day.

896
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Speaker 5: You just need one day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was an incredible bit. I mean, watching Kennedy

898
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Speaker 1: just try desperately to make Trump sound less terrible and

899
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Speaker 1: Trump was like, no, no, I'm going to even sound

900
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Speaker 1: more terrible. It's amazing. What you're saying is really important.

901
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Speaker 1: I mean, I actually think this autocratic streak, I actually

902
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: think it's gotten scarier because in twenty sixteen it was

903
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: just Trump and now you're looking at a debate stage

904
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Speaker 1: where you have look, I mean, I don't love Nikki Haley,

905
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Speaker 1: but I don't think she's going to be our last president,

906
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Speaker 1: Whereas like the Vague and Ron DeSantis are both like

907
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: on that same kind of autocratic path.

908
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and Mollie, they're both the vet I am sworn

909
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 5: is auditioning for the vice president. He's basically saying, don't worry,

910
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 5: I am not Mike Pens. I will fall in line.

911
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 5: Whatever you need me to do, I will follow that script.

912
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 5: It's but it's not just the people running for the

913
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 5: highest office. It's the fact that the GOP leadership mainstreamed

914
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 5: and extremist in Speaker Johnson. And one thing Molly that

915
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 5: folks haven't realized is that because he is now technically

916
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Speaker 5: de facto one of the largest fundraisers for congressional candidates

917
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 5: across the country. For Republicans, even if you have a

918
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Speaker 5: state GOP that is not aligned with extremism, by default,

919
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 5: they have to fall in line and their candidates have

920
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Speaker 5: to espouse his agenda.

921
00:45:59,160 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 3: And that is right.

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Speaker 1: I want to know, like Florida, Texas, Arizona, any of

923
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: them or all of them, what are you seeing? What

924
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Speaker 1: is important? Give me good news or bad news?

925
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 3: So Florida is going to be tough.

926
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Speaker 5: It's I was just in Florida three weeks ago, and

927
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Speaker 5: I was talking to local leaders, young leaders, bright leaders

928
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Speaker 5: we've been working with. We were speaking with some folks

929
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 5: of the Florida Alliance and just grassroots folks that really

930
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Speaker 5: believe in the progressive movement and more importantly building up base.

931
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Speaker 5: They were telling me that what they're seeing now is

932
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Speaker 5: going to take ten years to Florida ten years. Well,

933
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Speaker 5: so that is a different calculation.

934
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Speaker 1: Not good.

935
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Speaker 3: But then there's opportunity.

936
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Speaker 5: In Arizona and even a place like Texas, because I'll

937
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Speaker 5: give you an example. In Arizona, where Biden won by

938
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Speaker 5: twelve thousand votes, We're expecting one hundred and sixty three

939
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 5: thousand Latino youth to turn eighteen and over seventy percent

940
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Speaker 5: of them voted for Biden last time around.

941
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Speaker 1: And these are people who lived through Share Joe a

942
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: pie Brow.

943
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Speaker 5: Yes, they're the ones that we ended up knocking on

944
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Speaker 5: the doors and talking to them digitally and everything in

945
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Speaker 5: the twenty twenty two midterms that had just registered because

946
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 5: they hadn't been contacted, and they overwhelmingly voted for Democrats.

947
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Speaker 5: This is a fun fact, and I'll share this with you.

948
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Speaker 5: But we basically, you know, we did a post election

949
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Speaker 5: analysis and the more concentrated a neighborhood was a princinct

950
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 5: was in the Latino community, the higher rates that Senator

951
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 5: Kelly received, of course from them, and the more white

952
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 5: those districts were at Arizona, the less participation he received. Conversely, Molly,

953
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 5: the least investment came out of densely populated Latino neighborhoods.

954
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Speaker 1: Shame on us, so crazy, it is shame on us.

955
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: But also Shareff Joe really did make people know what

956
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Speaker 1: a Trump presidency means. But they absoluely did all of

957
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: the scary stuff that Trump dreams about doing, he actually

958
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: did to these young Latina voters.

959
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Speaker 5: And that's what they were right for mobilization. I mean,

960
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 5: we went in right when Sheriff Ourprios started doing his

961
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 5: Shmier paper laws and proposition win in eighty seven, and

962
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 5: we expected that Arizona was going to flip in about

963
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Speaker 5: twelve thirteen years.

964
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Speaker 3: It flipped in eight.

965
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Speaker 5: In twenty twenty, we registered thirty two thousand folks. Of

966
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 5: those nineteen thousand were first time voters. Molly, the appetite

967
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 5: of young voters in Arizona cannot be underestimated. And the

968
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Speaker 5: same thing is happening right now in Texas. The reason

969
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 5: Texas has an onslaught of voter suppression laws against young

970
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 5: people is because they're participating, and we're expecting close to

971
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 5: a million Latino youth alone to turn eighteen since the

972
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 5: last election Biden lost by less than six hundred thousand votes.

973
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 5: I mean, there's so much opportunity there. I mean, when

974
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 5: I tell you there's opportunity, if you were to ask

975
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 5: me what state is most akin to California when it flipped,

976
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 5: it's Texas.

977
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: If Texas flips, Republicans will I think abandoned the electoral

978
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: college model immediately.

979
00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, day, well, no, no.

980
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 5: The thing is like, if you pay close attention to

981
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 5: what's happening in Texas and they are trying to close

982
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 5: the access to the voting booth as quickly as possible,

983
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 5: because the moment they do that, we will never be

984
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 5: able to get Texas back because they basically have prevented

985
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 5: the millions of eligible voters for a participation. But at

986
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 5: the same time, you have a whole slate of incredible talent,

987
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 5: whether it's Selena Hidalgo or a great Kasar who's now

988
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 5: a member of Congress, that is running the state with

989
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 5: empathy and understands what people every day people are facing

990
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 5: and the opportunity in Texas. I have to. You know,

991
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 5: drill down is not so much the top of the ticket,

992
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 5: but it's Cruise himself running up for reelection and nobody

993
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 5: likes him, Molly, His partn't like him, his family doesn't

994
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 5: like it, you know, like nobody likes him, and that

995
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 5: creates a unique opportunity in Texas to flip the Senate.

996
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: So true, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

997
00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: I hope you will come back.

998
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Speaker 5: This is so good, lightful, Molly, thank you for having me.

999
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Speaker 3: You are an absolutely light Molly.

1000
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: No moment, Jesse.

1001
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Speaker 6: Cannon, Molly Jong Fast. You know when they say about

1002
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 6: predators and toxic men is when they tell you who

1003
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 6: they are. Believe them. But I think Donald Trump's not

1004
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 6: fully selling himself here, what do you think?

1005
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: So pretty great moment. Sean Hannity is trying to promote

1006
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump and he gets in there and he says, so,

1007
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: you're not going to be a dictator. Right, Here's a

1008
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: moment where all Donald Trump needs to do is say, yeah,

1009
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: of course, I'm not going to be a dictator, and

1010
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Speaker 1: instead he goes except for day one. Except for day one.

1011
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Speaker 6: And we should point out that when he did this,

1012
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 6: he did that in the way that like when he

1013
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 6: thinks he came up with something really witty, he just

1014
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 6: looks like he's so happy with himself.

1015
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 1: Well, and I also would say, like I heard someone

1016
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:07,439
Speaker 1: on CNN last night saying, well, he was obviously kidding. No,

1017
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: he was not kidding. Do not stop giving the benefit

1018
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 1: of the doubt to a guy who did an armed insurrection. Okay,

1019
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: stop it, stop it. Don't give him the benefit of

1020
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: the doubt. There is no place for the benefit of

1021
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: the doubt with Donald Trump. We live through one season

1022
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Speaker 1: of the Apprentice presidency. We don't need to live through

1023
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: any more seasons. Stop it. He's telling you what he's

1024
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: going to do. Believe him. That's it for this episode

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1026
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Speaker 1: to hear the best minds in politics makes sense of

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