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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff three and now podcast? It is a Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: I actually recorded a podcast earlier today with Colin. You

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Speaker 1: gonna do a big mail bag at John Middlecoff is

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Speaker 1: the Instagram Fire in those dms. I'm gonna need you, guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to read a couple of books this July.

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Speaker 1: That's a goal of mine. Let's read two books this July.

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Speaker 1: He will have made five hundred and eighty million dollars

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Speaker 1: in his NBA career. So when you factor in the

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Speaker 1: amount of revenue he's generating for everyone in that little circle,

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Speaker 1: this is pretty business booman. And the one thing when

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Speaker 1: there's an element of kind of sadness. There's an element

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Speaker 1: it's like there's just like this egotistical factoring in, like

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Speaker 1: this resentment toward others. It's just it's a wild experience,

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Speaker 1: which yeah, wouldn't recommend. Other than that, I was thinking today,

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Speaker 1: like some of these guys I saw Florio put out

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Speaker 1: like a hot seat. Obviously every year we know on

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Speaker 1: the low end it's five. On the high end, it

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Speaker 1: could be like six or seven guys getting fired. That

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Speaker 1: some of these guys that are on summer break right now,

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Speaker 1: that have you know, one of the best jobs in

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Speaker 1: professional sports. You're the head coach of an NFL team.

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Speaker 1: Even if you're on the low end, you're making seven

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Speaker 1: eight million dollars. Think about Major League Baseball managers. Some

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Speaker 1: of these guys make like eight hundred thousand dollars. So

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Speaker 1: that's like what a running back coach makes with ten

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Speaker 1: years experience in the league. So it's an incredibly highly paid,

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Speaker 1: highly public, highly you know, you get a lot of

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Speaker 1: but it's one that not many people get the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to ever do. Even in the profession. Some of these

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Speaker 1: Brian Dable, you head to vacation, you think my career,

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Speaker 1: my head coaching career at least is depending on Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson throwing touchdowns. If I'm Shane Steiken and listen, I

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Speaker 1: one of the you know surprise predictions last week on

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Speaker 1: The Herd was Daniel Jones resurrec's his career what if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't? And if you're Shane Stike and you're thinking

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Speaker 1: I helped save like Nick Sirianni's career because they gave

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Speaker 1: me the play calling duties. I helped make Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 1: Hell two years ago, I was like, this guy won

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Speaker 1: nine games of Gardner mint. You now I'm potentially fighting

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Speaker 1: all reports and everyone in Indie. You could see this

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Speaker 1: coming from a mile away. He's going to be the

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Speaker 1: right now. Daniel Jones week one starting. That's who you're

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Speaker 1: know if that's a situation here could get really really

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Speaker 1: ugly and obviously every year, you know, you have situations

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Speaker 1: that you didn't see coming. You know, everyone thinks Mike

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Speaker 1: McDaniels in major, major trouble. I think that team is

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Speaker 1: just not going to be very good. And I think

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Speaker 1: said this forever. You know, it's one of those jobs

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Speaker 1: like Brian Daball and Schaansdyke and if they were to

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Speaker 1: Dennis Allen, who was he was an embarrassing head coach.

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Speaker 1: Your boy picked the Saints last year. Shows you what

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Speaker 1: an idiot I am. But he'll never be a head

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Speaker 1: coach again. But the moment he's available, like three teams

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Speaker 1: are trying to hire him as a defensive coordinator and

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Speaker 1: he will be a defensive coordinator until he doesn't want

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Speaker 1: to work in the NFL. Well, a defensive coordinator like

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Speaker 1: Dennis Allen, he's making like two and a half three

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Speaker 1: four million dollars. He has none of the stress of

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Speaker 1: being a head coach. He's not in charge of the personnel.

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Speaker 1: All he has to do is coach defense and he's

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Speaker 1: making millions of dollars. He's making more than probably I

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Speaker 1: don't know of the roster and he's a failure as

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Speaker 1: a head coach. So Shane Sike and Brian Dable, these guys,

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Speaker 1: even Mike McDaniel, I'm sure would get hired to be

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Speaker 1: It gives you a lot of fame, gives you a

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Speaker 1: the front of the table, everyone's looking at you. You

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Speaker 1: make the hires. You have a huge influence. Even if

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Speaker 1: you're not in control of the draft, you have a

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Speaker 1: give a player to the head coach that doesn't want

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Speaker 1: to coach you, So say, you know, whether the front

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Speaker 1: acquiesce a little bit to whoever your coaches are because

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Speaker 1: you want them to like the players. Because they don't

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Speaker 1: like the players, they can control that guy's trajectory and

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's not playing and does you

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Speaker 1: Okay, mail bag time at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff. You guys know the drill is your time

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Speaker 1: to shine in the offseason. This from Kevin Good question.

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Speaker 1: Did you see Big Bens take that he would take

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Speaker 1: Prime Rogers over Prime Mahomes? What are your thoughts? You

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Speaker 1: know what's funny is on my YouTube like I don't

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Speaker 1: even know page homepage, Roethlisberger podcast where he's I don't

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Speaker 1: know who his buddy is, young kid. It looks like

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Speaker 1: popped up today and I watched for a minute. It

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Speaker 1: was like Ben talking about his vacation. But I didn't

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Speaker 1: hear him say that. I saw the headline. Listen, you

547
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Speaker 1: could and this is what I noticed in Enigma. You

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Speaker 1: could make the argument, in the peak of his powers,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking regular season, is as good of a quarterback

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Speaker 1: that has ever played. I mean, Aaron was a total package.

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Speaker 1: He was smart, he was athletic, He had a huge arm,

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Speaker 1: He could make throws from the pocket, he could scramble

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Speaker 1: and make throws on the run, meaning he was a playmaker,

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Speaker 1: and he was incredibly accurate, and he could play in

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Speaker 1: all weather types like he was as good of an

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Speaker 1: individual player in the regular season that's ever played. Now,

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Speaker 1: I think if you wanted a nitpick early on the defense,

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Speaker 1: let him down. I do think he let them in

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Speaker 1: him down a little bit as he got older. But

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Speaker 1: this isn't like, yeah, I would take I think there's

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Speaker 1: something special about what Mahomes brings to the table. But like, listen,

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Speaker 1: you could argue like anything you wanted in sports, right

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Speaker 1: you go, Rogers, Well, you know hit Mike McCarthy was

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Speaker 1: as head coach. Don Capers was his defensive coordinator. You

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Speaker 1: put twenty six year old Aaron Rodgers with Andy freaking

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Speaker 1: Reid and Steve Spagnola and let like that operation, who

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Speaker 1: do you like you go? I think it's a fair argument.

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Speaker 1: Would Aaron Rodgers just have one super Bowl if in

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Speaker 1: the prime of his career, from like ten to fifteen,

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Speaker 1: he was on this Chiefs team? Now, would he have

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Speaker 1: gone to five to six super Bowls or five of

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Speaker 1: six Super Bowls? Yeah? I think you could make the

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Speaker 1: argument that you would rather have Mahomes in some of

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Speaker 1: these situations. Though Mahomes played a little like Rogers in

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Speaker 1: some of these big games, right, just don't make a mistake,

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Speaker 1: play smart, and his defense got the job done. Now,

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Speaker 1: Like listen, I would take Mahomes after watching Enigma. I

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Speaker 1: think there's some element of Mahomes that just resonates with

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Speaker 1: human beings more than Rogers. But I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: the craziest stake. I really don't. I think if you

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Speaker 1: put in his prime Aaron Rodgers and you give him

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Speaker 1: to Belichick in two thousand and one, or you give

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Speaker 1: him to Bill Walsh in nineteen eighty three, like I

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Speaker 1: think you're winning a lot of Super Bowls as well.

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Speaker 1: But that's not how we play the game, like I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's absurd of a take. Is like when

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Speaker 1: Darryl Morey used to call James Harden a better offensive

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Speaker 1: player than Michael Jordan. It's like, Daryl, you lost us,

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Speaker 1: like you lost the argument. And I also understand from

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Speaker 1: Big Ben's perspective. Plus, listen, we talked about Brady with

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Speaker 1: the bias for Sam Darnold. There's an element here off

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Speaker 1: like Ben played against Rogers, so how fucking good he was.

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Speaker 1: He's like, I'm Big Ben, I'm going to the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame. I'm one of the best quarter back to

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Speaker 1: my generation. And this guy's way better than me. And

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Speaker 1: I've won two Super Bowls. I'm not a better player

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Speaker 1: in this guy. So I get it when you see

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Speaker 1: something like you're not gonna convince me there's anyone better

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Speaker 1: at sports talk and what they do than Coward. Why

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Speaker 1: I've got a front row seat. I saw it last week.

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Speaker 1: I've listened forever, I've podcasted with them, and then I

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Speaker 1: saw him work live on television. I'm like, that's that's

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Speaker 1: as good as it gets. It's crazy how talented this

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Speaker 1: guy is. And you know, I think part of any

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Speaker 1: of our experiences are just what we see right, and

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Speaker 1: I think there's an element of that with Ben with Aaron.

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Speaker 1: You forgot Jalen Hurts in your top ten on your

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Speaker 1: last pot. Please tell me that's the name you're missing,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts the top ten quarterback. I would agree. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: we're doing this stuff on the fly. H Okay, this

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Speaker 1: from Matt. My twin brother and I are having a

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Speaker 1: debate on who will be the better team this upcoming season,

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Speaker 1: the Broncos or the Raiders. With Peyton bow second year

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Speaker 1: in the system, with a better run game and elite defense,

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Speaker 1: I think the Broncos are sneaky good and could win

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Speaker 1: a playoff game or two. My twin thinks the Raiders

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Speaker 1: win a playoff game. That there's no way the Broncos

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Speaker 1: at one of the best defense in the league. They

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Speaker 1: led the league in sacks. Their offense is gonna be better.

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Speaker 1: Their quarterback through twenty nine touchdowns last year. They already

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Speaker 1: have an established culture operation. Pete Carroll's never coached these guys.

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Speaker 1: Even if they vastly improve, there's no way you could

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Speaker 1: if you're a Raider fan, I totally get it, but like,

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Speaker 1: based on all the evidence we have the roster, you

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Speaker 1: would have to take the Broncos, so I would. I

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Speaker 1: think it's not inconceivable that the Broncos or the Chargers

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Speaker 1: win the division, right, I mean, are the Chiefs gonna

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Speaker 1: these years where just they win eleven games and someone

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Speaker 1: in their division wins thirteen. This might be it. Two questions.

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Speaker 1: My partner and I are looking to plan a golf

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Speaker 1: spa trip. Do you have any recommendations in Scottsdale? Furthermore,

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Speaker 1: how do you see the Jets doing this year? I

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Speaker 1: would say two hotels that jump out to me that

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Speaker 1: It's in North Scottsdale. I stayed there years ago when

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Speaker 1: I was kind of looking at trying to buy property here.

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00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: I came out here for like ten days where I

640
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: met my future wife. It's sitting, especially if you have kids.

641
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: It's got like a lazy river. It's it's a cool hotel.

642
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: I think they got twenty seven holes of golf behind it.

643
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: Jack Nicholas nick Valdo developed it. It's a cool property,

644
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: and then the Phoenician, same type thing. I would imagine both.

645
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: I'm not a big I'm not a big spot d

646
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: A guy. I mean I like a good steam room

647
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: in a sauna, but I've never got a spat Da here.

648
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: But I would imagine both. Have you know the infrastructure

649
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: there for spot A you have to check, but I'd

650
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: say Desert Ridge or the Phoenician. Also, just like I

651
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: said golf, the Jets, I think they're not going to

652
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 1: be very good if I had to bet, like more

653
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: than likely they're selling off some of their parts by

654
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: the trade deadline, and this is a reset. You know,

655
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: it'll be fascinating. You know, Breis Hall has already been

656
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: on the trading block. I think the sauce thing is

657
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: pretty fascinating. I had a scout in the league that

658
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: told me, not even a scout, I mean he's like

659
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: an assistant GM that said, listen, those first two years

660
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: they let sauce, they weren't calling pis. He got to

661
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: be as physical as he wanted, and when he's tall,

662
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: long corner, he could fucking maul you. Last year, what

663
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: happened they started throwing the flag. Sauce is not a

664
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: four to three. He's not Derek Stingley. So if they

665
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: don't let him maul you at the line, like, he's

666
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: not just going to be able to mirror you in

667
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: the hip pocket. So it's going to be fascinating, you know.

668
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: You know, his first two years like all pro So

669
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: if you're sauce like thinking, give me one hundred million dollars,

670
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: and if you're the Jets, I could not do that.

671
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: I'd have to let it play out a little bit.

672
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: And then if it plays out and not the right

673
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: way and you're not going to give him an extension,

674
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: you know, what's his market? He does fit some specific

675
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: type defenses. You know, I don't know. He's going to

676
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: be a fascinating case study. I think the Jets are

677
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: just not gonna be good, and not because you know,

678
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn's impressive guy, but fields your starting quarterback. A

679
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: lot of just unknown, you know, with just how last

680
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: year went, how these guys are going to bounce back

681
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: or I don't know. I don't have high hopes for

682
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: the kind of the squad. I was listening to the

683
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: New Heights podcast a few days ago where Jason Kelsey

684
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 1: started comparing the Chiefs rookie Josh Simmons physically to players

685
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: like Jason Peters and Trent Williams. However, do you think

686
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: he truly will be able to be an above average

687
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: left tackle for the Chiefs like Eric Fisher Or do

688
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: you think the Chiefs a line will be good without

689
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: a player like Joe Touty. I didn't listen to the podcast,

690
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 1: but I obviously, you know, do this for a living.

691
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: I saw the headlines of Jason. One thing's pretty clear

692
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: is Jason I don't know what is you know, if

693
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: he has an official title, but like he watched his

694
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: offensive lineman for Howie and he likes doing it, and

695
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: I would imagine how he's like this guy could be

696
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: there when we draft right because of the injury. And

697
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: you know, the Eagles probably were interested anytime a guy

698
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: like I mean, look, they took John Campbell, who also

699
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: liked Josh Simmons. The only reason he was there because

700
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: the injury. Josh Simmons, before he got injured, was going

701
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: in the top ten. Now when you compare, you know,

702
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: Jason Peters was a tight end in college. Trent Williams

703
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: went fourth overall. I think both those guys share two

704
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: characteristics of physically there aren't many human beings like either one.

705
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 1: You know, both guys could be three hundred and fifty

706
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: pounds and they still move around as a foot athlete

707
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: like they're a linebacker. They are elite athletes. They are

708
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: just in this body type that. I mean, a small

709
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: small percentage of human beings are on the planet that

710
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: have six' five the girth to be three hundred and

711
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: forty three hundred fifty pounds and then athletically move like.

712
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: That but both, guys when they're right physically in their,

713
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: Primes trent will see if he's still in. It Obviously

714
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: jason's prime ended years ago or. NONE i, mean they

715
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: were as good as it gets at left. Tackle you.

716
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: Know Josh, SIMMONS i THINK i think the scary thing

717
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: for him would be, that what didn't he tear his? Potella? What,

718
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: yeah that's. Now, listen my dad taurrest potella WHEN i

719
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: was in junior high MAYBE i was in elementary. School

720
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: it would have been mid to late. Nineties there's a

721
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: man in his, fifties So i'm not comparing him to an,

722
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: athlete but it's a very very serious. Injury it's not

723
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: an acl it's not Even achilles it's not Like Tommy

724
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: John like it's some injuries like, that you're never quite the.

725
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: Same AND i think it shows you because most people

726
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: would agree him coming out even more Than Will. Campbell

727
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: this guy physically had the highest. Upside like if anyone

728
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: was gonna be just a seven Time pro bowler at left,

729
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: tackle it was gonna be this. Guy if he had

730
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: torn HIS, acl not torn his, patella there's no way

731
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: he makes it to The. Chiefs none would never have

732
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: made it that. Far he would have gone probably still

733
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: in the top. Fifteen even if someone's, Like i'm red cheering,

734
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: him it's worth. It but you, know the paateella thing is.

735
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: Scary my dad's kned never was the. Same, honestly when

736
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: he got into his mid to late six he should

737
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: have got a knee. Replacement this guy's how Old's Josh.

738
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: Simmons he's twenty two years, old SO i, mean, obviously

739
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: you know your body recovers. Differently if everything's fine and

740
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: he just comes out of it like a player That

741
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: terris acl breaks the, leg, whatever The chiefs are going

742
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: to have one of the best players in the draft for,

743
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: sure because, physically like this guy was At Ohio state

744
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: for a. Reason it was a big deal when he got.

745
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: INJURED i always like to look at, like you, know

746
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: blue chip guys like, this if you just go To

747
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: Josh simmons', rivals like if you just go to his

748
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: uh what he was like coming out of high. School

749
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: he was not the craziest recruit. EVER i guess Four

750
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: star originally signed With San Diego. State then obviously blew

751
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: up actually started At San Diego. STATE i actually didn't

752
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: know that started At San Diego state and then transferred

753
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: To Ohio. State it so this guy's transfer portal went

754
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: To Helix High. School you guys want to play a,

755
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: little uh a little? Trivia you know who else went

756
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: To Helix High? School, well given them Only i'm on

757
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: the podcast all Answer Alex smith And Reggie. Bush it's

758
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: IN i Think North San diego is. Considered this is

759
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: a good signing for The San Diego. State that's the

760
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: sad part about the fucking transfer. Portal it's, like You're

761
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: San Diego, state you Get Josh, simmons Who Jason kelsey's

762
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: comparing To Trent williams And Jason, peters and then all

763
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: of a, sudden the guy ends up At Ohio. State

764
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: how is the little guy supposed to Compete Fresno, State

765
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: San Diego, State Boise. State they get Their Josh, simmons

766
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: and then all of a, sudden two years, later the

767
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: guy's At Ohio. State AND i don't Blame Josh simmons

768
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: for going To Ohio. State i'd gone To Ohio state.

769
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 1: Too can you Imagine Josh? Simmons like the transfer portal's

770
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: got some good, players there can't be many. Guys this

771
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,479
Speaker 1: guy's a future first round pike at left tackle entering

772
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: the transfer portal from a Smaller DIVISION i. PROGRAM i

773
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: can't even imagine how many people are coming after that. Guy,

774
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: okay this is From. Richie congratulations on your, Wedding congrats

775
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: on filling in for The. Herd guys giving me a

776
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: lot of. Congrats why do you think THE ufc AND

777
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: mma is not discussed more in major sports networks like fs?

778
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,479
Speaker 1: One look at this. WEEKEND ufc had a major, EVENT

779
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: ufc three, seventeen WHICH i believe was stack with great

780
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: fights and fan favorite. Fighters the event also delivered with

781
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: many finishes via tkoko or. SUBMISSION i guess that would

782
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: prefer shows Like The herd And First things first to

783
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: discuss MORE ufc content over topics regarding THE La, lakers

784
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: the Irrelevant Dallas cowboys flagles, fly or THE. WNBA i

785
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: would like to know your opinion of THE ufc And

786
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 1: Dana white in how mainstream can you envision the company?

787
00:42:54,800 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: Growing it's a pretty good. QUESTION i do think there

788
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: are two elements of this. One if you if You're

789
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: colin Or nick or, whoever what First first, take the

790
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: majority ninety percent of what you're going to talk is

791
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: going to be football and. Basketball and you, know depending

792
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: on the, show Like collin's probably seventy, football seventy five

793
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: football and twenty five. Basketball some of the other, shows

794
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: maybe you Know First takes fifty to, fifty, right they

795
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: talk a ton OF. NBA i would Imagine Nick wright's

796
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: show talks a lot OF nba. Two but, like you,

797
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: know that, works like that's a winning. Formula not every

798
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: guy is going to be in THE, ufc, RIGHT i

799
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: would say THE, ufc like tennis or, golf for you,

800
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: KNOW f one OR, nascar baseball has become very niche

801
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: in the sense of people following it very very. Intently

802
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: so IF i just, like, hey here's a topic On

803
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: Steph curry or here's a topic On Jalen. Hurts most

804
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 1: sports fans are going to be able to follow. Along

805
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: i'm a good. EXAMPLE i have a lot of respect

806
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: for the. Business that The Fertida, brothers That Dana. White

807
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 1: WHEN i went to Cal, Pauly Chuck lydell was becoming

808
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: a rocket. Ship he was a Cal pauly. Grat he

809
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 1: trained in Cal. Pauly he would or In San Luis.

810
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: Obispo he would show up at the frat parties WHEN

811
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 1: i was in college and like steal the hottest, chick

812
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: like it was a big deal because we were in

813
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: that little. World but LIKE ufc the other, NIGHT i didn't,

814
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: watch not BECAUSE i don't respect the. Fighters i'm just

815
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: not that into it for whatever, reason, Right AND i

816
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: Know Daniel cormier seems like an awesome. Dude Rogan ank

817
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: like their whole operation is really really high. Level but

818
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: it still is in terms of. One anytime you get

819
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: pay per, view you have a barrier to entry where

820
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: these other sports are just they're not technically, free right

821
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: because cable box or. Whatever but for the most, part

822
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: like it's it's easy to watch AN nba playoff game

823
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: or AN nfl game or a college football. Game it

824
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: is a little more challenging to watch. That AND i

825
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 1: Think Caitlin clark's a good. Example she became a story

826
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: on the main networks before everyone was watching, her but

827
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: then it drove people to. Watch but, like you'd have

828
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: to be pretty passionate to do that and hope that people.

829
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: WOULD a huge part of these television shows is, ratings

830
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: so you do things that you know will. Work so

831
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: Like colin knows that if me and him and he

832
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: was really cool, Too like he did a couple of

833
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: segments where it was a back and forth with. Me

834
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: he didn't have to do, that and we, CHOSE i

835
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: mean he, chose but like you want to do HIS nfl, Segments, like,

836
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: yeah he knows it's gonna. Work you, know IF i

837
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: was a former baseball, scout we wouldn't do like my

838
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: five favorite players In Major League, baseball, right we wouldn't do.

839
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: That And fox has Some Major league. Baseball SO i

840
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: think it's a long winded way of saying. ONE i

841
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: think it's still in a weird, way not that, mainstream

842
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: even though it's a very lucrative operation now And Dana

843
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: white's really famous and some of you. KNOW i do

844
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: think If connor was still, involved like you, CAN i

845
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: do golf on this medium one BECAUSE i love, IT

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00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: i follow. IT i, mean Today i'm Watching Max grazerman

847
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: go at it with this dude From South africa And

848
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: Jake napp and live on the other. Television but that's not.

849
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: Normal AND i know that WHEN i do go low

850
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: tomorrow that most people probably haven't watched The Rocket Mortgage.

851
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: TOURNAMENT i don't blame you wouldn't watch it either IF

852
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: i had something else to, do so you know. That

853
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: it's a little like that WITH. Ufc but If Tiger

854
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: woods had just played in The Rocket mortgage and won

855
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: The Rocket, mortgage you could talk about it and people

856
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 1: would follow, along just like If connor McGregor were still

857
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: fighting like someone that, famous you could talk about it

858
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 1: and people would fall. Along it's, why like When Jake

859
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: paul fought if he wanted to Fight Mike, tyson like

860
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 1: people kind of pay attention in a sport like, that

861
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: the individual. Firepower you need a superstar to. Breakthrough AND

862
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: i don't even know If chuck was quite that he

863
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: was close and then they've had you, KNOW i would

864
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: Say connor's AND i think Even dana, said, right he's

865
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: the most important fighters it's ever come along in terms

866
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: of mainstream popularity and. Fame like golf was around well

867
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: Before Tiger wood showed. Up he changed the sport in

868
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 1: terms OF i love country. Music Without Garth, brooks country

869
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: music doesn't become as mainstream as it became the last

870
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: twenty five. Years change the fucking game for. Everybody open

871
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: the floodgates for guys Like tim, McGraw Kenny, Jesney Jason,

872
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: Eldan Luke bryan to become worth hundreds of millions of.

873
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: Dollars before, that it was kind of like redneck honky,

874
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: tonk you, know VERY i would, say a little niche,

875
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: music and it no longer. Is you could argue now

876
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: it's the most popular music. Going and a big reason

877
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: for that happened WHEN i was a kid With Garth

878
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: brooks in the. Nineties that broke through that whether you

879
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: like country music or you didn't like country, music you

880
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: Followed Garth, brooks AND i think individual sports have elements of.

881
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: That Tiger woods was THAT i would imagine back in

882
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: like the fifties and Say Arnold palmer was like. That

883
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: we've seen that in, tennis like you, Know Pete sampras

884
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: was way better Than Andre. Agassy Andre agassy was the

885
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: more important player in terms of like commercial. Thing SO

886
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: i don't know IF i specifically BECAUSE i don't know

887
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: if there's a specific, Answer LIKE i Think colin could

888
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: probably answer that question like, no it just doesn't. WORK

889
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: i also think you're talking to an audience of, LIKE

890
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: i don't know how many people buy the pay per

891
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: view BECAUSE i love. Sports it's like the majority of

892
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: things THAT i. WATCH i don't order the pay per.

893
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: Views AND i like. FIGHTING i like watching people get

894
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: their ass, kids, though there was something one of the

895
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: guys that got. KOed he got knocked. Out dude hit

896
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 1: him right across the. Face he's out as he hits the.

897
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: GROUND i bet his head hits the canvas also knocks him.

898
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: Out he is. OUT i, mean it's it's clear the

899
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: guy's done. This dude jumps on, him hammer punches his

900
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 1: face before the ref could get. THERE i like. VIOLENCE

901
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: i am pro violence felt a little. UNNECESSARY i, was

902
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: Like jesus felt uncomfortable watching in a good, way but

903
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: it was had. Hurt, Okay, Hey, JOHN i think your

904
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: criticisms of The dolphins are reasonable considering they're coming off

905
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 1: an eight nine. Season, however TO a led the league

906
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: in a completion percentage seventy two percent last. YEAR i

907
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: also think they had a pretty good. Draft if THEIR

908
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: o line is even, AVERAGE i think they will go

909
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: back to their twenty three. Form they also were missing

910
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: seven starters last. Year ramsey can get them a trade,

911
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: package can, he, though because if he, could he'd be.

912
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: GONE i don't know If jalen get you a trade.

913
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: Package maybe we're all just overlooking a scenario where they

914
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: actually are decent the. Years my guess is nine to. Eight,

915
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: YEAH i Just i'm betting on them to. SUCK i.

916
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: Am i'm with. YOU i Think tua gets unfairly, criticized

917
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: like he's not as bad AS i think the way

918
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: he's talked, about but can't play outdoors late in the.

919
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: Season we know that's a, fact and then the injury

920
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: risks are just pretty. High is Scary terry A hall

921
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: of fame on A hall Of fame? Run he's had

922
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: a thousand yard season every single year since he's been

923
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: in the, league but no one talks about. It if

924
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: he continues for another four, years is he A hall Of.

925
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: FAMER i think sometimes you, know The hall Of fame,

926
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: talk you can accumulate enough numbers to be in The

927
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: hall Of, fame and, Listen terry McLaurin is a really good,

928
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: player and like you, said he's been from twenty eighty,

929
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: seven eleven hundred seventy, seven one, thousand seventy, seven eleven

930
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: hundred seventy, nine one, thousand eighty, two one. Thousand WHEN

931
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 1: i Watched terry, McLaurin i don't Think hall Of, famer

932
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: Right like WHEN i Watch Justin, JEFFERSON i Think hall Of.

933
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: Fame Jamar, CHASE i Think hall Of, fame Which terry

934
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: McLaurin really, good whatever, happened just, like this guy's just.

935
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: Good this guy's a good. PLAYER i feel like THE

936
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: Nfl hall Of fame is kind of becoming THE Nba

937
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: hall Of, fame OR i guess it's not even THE

938
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: Nba fall Of. Fame it's the Basketball hall Of fame

939
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: where everyone kind of gets. In or it's LIKE i

940
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 1: like The hall Of fames to be, like, Yeah Joe,

941
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: Montana Jerry, Rice Tom, Brady, Peyton, Manning Kobe, bryant Shack

942
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: Lebron steph like The Deon sanders the best of the.

943
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: Best But terry mclaurin's a Good i'd want him on my.

944
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: Team does anyone think And i'm not trying to shit

945
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: on your take, here But terry McLaurin is not A

946
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: hall Of famer to? Me does that mean if he

947
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: has another five years playing like he's, playing who. KNOWS

948
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: i wouldn't put it past. Him but LIKE i just think,

949
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: sometimes Like Aaron, donald you, Know Trent. Williams hall Of

950
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: famers should be pretty obvious that there should. Be you

951
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 1: should know right. Away it shouldn't be an acquired. Taste

952
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: should not be an acchoir LIKE i used to WHEN

953
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: i was a. KID i didn't like. Mustard NOW i

954
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: like mustard all my. Sandwiches used to hate. Tomatoes NOW

955
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: i can't eat a sandwich without. Tomatoes you should know right.

956
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: Away you know, WHAT i never turned down. PIZZA i

957
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: liked it my whole. Life it's LIKE i watched this,

958
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 1: player like this guy is. ELITE i don't, like there

959
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: can be a there can be a level of player

960
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 1: that between like not trying to replace but also not

961
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: going to The hall Of. Fame and that's listen sports

962
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: debate talk has kind of created, this but it's. GOOD i,

963
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: Mean i'm not putting that Much. Empa he's two time pro,

964
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: bowler check a, team all. PRO i mean his career

965
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: high in catches is his second year eighty. Seven not

966
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: all his, fault BUT i mean he's like averages essentially

967
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: seventy eight catches a, year one thousand, yards like four

968
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: or five, touchdowns which is fucking. Good he's gonna make

969
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty million dollars playing in THE. Nfl,

970
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: okay last, Question this is From Cam. Cameron maybe he's

971
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: the fan in, me but, WHATEVER i Hear baker grouped

972
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: with guys Like gino And, DARNOLD i feel like it's.

973
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: Disrespectful he had decent numbers In cleveland and since Joining

974
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: tampa has arguably been a top eight to nine guy

975
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: with the weapons he has this. Year do you think

976
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: he can perform well enough to be consistently talked about

977
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: as a top tier guy in the book that's already been.

978
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: WRITTEN i agree comparing him To Gino smith is. Unfair

979
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: he is a better player objectively Than Geno, Smith like

980
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: Even gino's good, games like you, know a lot of

981
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: bad games and big Moments gino. Solid like to, Me

982
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: gino is your, classic like somewhere between thirteen and, seventeen

983
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: and over the course of the year has good and,

984
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: bad but like serious, limitations but mix up for it with.

985
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: Leadership he's got a big, arm so he can make

986
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 1: some big. Plays but like you never Watched gino like

987
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: it's a top seven. Quarterback like you Have baker games

988
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: that are like is this one of the best players

989
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 1: in the. League and him And sam were on the same,

990
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: team now both of them different world to, Go baker

991
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: beat him. Out now you could argue that they were

992
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: gonna Start baker no matter what still. Happened i'm with.

993
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: YOU i Think. BAKER i would expect a huge year From.

994
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: BAKER i, MEAN i Like tampa to win that. DIVISION

995
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: i Like baker to throw thirty five to forty, touchdowns

996
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: AND i think he's going to be well established as

997
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: competing to be one of the best quarterbacks in THE.

998
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: Nfc like one thing with THE afc is you have

999
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: like all time great, players Right Mahomes hall Of, Fame

1000
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: Lamar hall Of, Fame Josh Allen hall Of, Fame Joe

1001
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:08,479
Speaker 1: burrow probably gonna Be hall Of, Fame herbert fucking. Good

1002
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: but you got big time quarterbacks in THE. Nfc you

1003
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: Got Okay jaden incredible rookie. Year see back it, up

1004
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: WHICH i expect him to. Do i'm not down on.

1005
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: Him you, know you Got jalen who everyone, Loves Jalen

1006
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 1: hurst after The Super. Bowl there were times last season

1007
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 1: where people are, like what the hell is going on

1008
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: with the pass? Game jayalen could be a frustrating player at.

1009
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: Times obviously very talented dual threat, guy you Know. Goff

1010
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: his good games look damn good in The, dome but

1011
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: it can have games where you're, Like, god that was pretty.

1012
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: Bad it's not Exactly murderer's row in THE. Nfc stafford's

1013
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 1: thirty eight years. Old you Know, purdy depending on who you,

1014
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: ask either's awesome or. Sucks so the Competition baker has to,

1015
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:55,479
Speaker 1: go especially in his own. Division you Got, bryce you Got,

1016
00:55:55,560 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: penix and some times The. South you know what's, Crazy

1017
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: it happens to me every time you Got, tampa you

1018
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: Have New, orleans you Have carolina And. Atlanta you got

1019
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: so you've Got, Tyler, Shock pennix And. Bryce and there's

1020
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: a Chance tampa wins that division by a couple of.

1021
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: Games what If atlanta doesn't, win like goes like eight

1022
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: to nine or seven and, ten Is Arthur blank going

1023
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: to fire? Everybody that thing could get, weird and that

1024
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: thing can get weird. Fast But i'm with. YOU i

1025
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: Think baker has established himself as as you, know one

1026
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: of the big guns definitely in the in THE. Nfc

1027
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 1: and that's how Many you're only playing FOUR afc? Games,

1028
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 1: WELL i guess it flip. Flops maybe you're playing five this.

1029
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: Year but let's just let's just end with. This let's

1030
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: just pull Up tampa. Schedule who they win ten and

1031
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: seven last, year so they opened with The, falcons like

1032
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 1: them to win that game at The, Texans, Jets eagles At,

1033
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: Seahawks niners At, lions At, Saints patriots At, bills At rams. Schedules,

1034
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: actually they got some tough games because they play THE Nfc.

1035
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: West if they could just kind of be around five,

1036
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: hundred the last six to seven games get kind of. Easy, Cardinals, Saints, Falcons, Panthers, Dolphins.

1037
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: Panthers so if they can be around like six and,

1038
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: six five and, five they got a stretch here where

1039
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: they could take advantage of. It but they got they

1040
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: got some tough. Games early At houston's not an easy.

1041
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: Game That's monday night. Football looks like it might be

1042
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,959
Speaker 1: A monday night football. Doubleheader get The eagles at, home

1043
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: have heat on their side At, seattle that's not. Easy

1044
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: then you gotta fly all the way home to play

1045
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: The niners the next. Week then you gotta go At,

1046
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: detroit which is A monday night. Game that's a Good

1047
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: monday night football. Game to, me where they really got

1048
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: to take advantage of is they just got to dominate

1049
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: within their. Division AND i don't see why they, Won't

1050
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: LIKE i would, say what they do last year in the,

1051
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: division they went four and. TWO i, MEAN i think

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Speaker 1: if they go four and two, again they're probably maybe

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Speaker 1: they're a nine win team this. Year but if they

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Speaker 1: go five and, ONE i, MEAN i don't see how

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't, be you, know a ten win. Team the

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Speaker 1: volume