1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Now on Bloomberg Radio, we take stock of healthcare. The 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: issue of drug pricing has been at the forefront, certainly 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: in the political realm for the last few months. We're 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: living in a very special time in the history of 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: the pharmaceutical industry. Three of all biotechs that start actually 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: get a drug approved. It's a very hard thing to do. 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: Bloomberg taking stock healthcaret and focus on Bloomberg Radio. Don't 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: sweat it. Never let them see you sweat. Well, it's 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: possible now, but not because of an antipe perspirin. It's 10 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: a new technology that actually kills under arm sweatlands by 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: micro waving them. The company is Mirror Dry. The CEO 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: joins us now he's the CEO of Mirror mar Labs. 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,319 Speaker 1: Michael Klein, Welcome to the show. Thank you very much, 14 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: glad to be here. My mind is still boggled. How 15 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: does this work. It's it's a it's a revolutionary technology 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: that was put together by the foundry in Silicon Valley, 17 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: which has had a number of successful company ventures. And 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: the founder years ago looked at how were bothered by 19 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: their sweat and they really weren't. And there really still 20 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: is not any good alternatives for that. In other words, 21 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: you can look at let's talk about anti purss burns 22 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: and deodorants. They only have about efficacy rate. So I'm 23 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: sure a lot of your listeners right now are going, well, 24 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: that makes sense. That's why I wear a T shirt, 25 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: That's why I do things. There was a recent article 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal, I think on July by 27 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Holmes that said is your deodor working? And talked 28 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: about how of women carried the odor and around with 29 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: them to reapply it during the day. So the other 30 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: options or botox, and the other options were surgery. Uh. 31 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: They looked at all types of different energy modalities and 32 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: found that microwave, very concentrated, very short bursts of microwave 33 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: energy under the arm not only eliminated the sweat and 34 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: the odor glands, but also the hair. So you get 35 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: kind of a trifecta sweat, odor in hair. The company 36 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: currently doesn't make money. The company does the company me 37 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: right now. We have revenues. We just finished the second 38 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: quarter about eleven point seven million. We're not profitable yet. 39 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: We're working on the top line and working towards that. Now. 40 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: I know that you are not necessarily recently but you 41 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: were previously the chief executive of EndoGastric. That's correct. Um, 42 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: why go public in the reverse merger? Why did that 43 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: take place? Do you think because we believe that this 44 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: technology h is we have a we have a window 45 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: of opportunity to really get this out there, and we 46 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: believe that getting this out letting people see it the 47 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: biggest issue. Why not wait until you're profitable and large 48 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: because right now, right now, I honestly believe that we 49 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: can get it through the through the public markets. We 50 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: can get a very strong interest in this and then 51 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: drive it from that standpoint. Is there a health risk here? 52 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: Is killing sweat glands on your body? Great question? Uh? 53 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: The the people wonder, they say, okay, you're getting rid 54 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: of sweat glands, and we suppose us to have sweat glands. Uh. 55 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: The amount of sweat glands under your arms, it's only 56 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: about one to one and a half percent of your body. 57 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: We've done over seventy thousand procedures to day, and so 58 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: the thermal regulation of the body is not affected. And 59 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: it's also been passed by every regulatory group. We are 60 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: FDA cleared. Now this is very important in the ascetic industry. 61 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: We are FDA cleared, we're c MARK cleared in in Europe, 62 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: and we also just received approval in China where ce 63 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 1: FDA approved there and you made China's you know, there's 64 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: twenty hospitals, private hospitals that offer aesthetic procedures in China, 65 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: So we were very excited about that. Tell us a 66 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: little bit about the company, the composition of the company, 67 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: because I think you did a private alternative funding raise 68 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: of about nine million dollars earlier this year. That's correct, 69 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: And so what we're doing right now is we did 70 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: the we did the alternative, we through the pipe. We 71 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: we got it to this point where we are right 72 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: now is is looking to get more money in through 73 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: the pipe to continue to drive the company from a 74 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: capital standpoint. So again, how big is the market you 75 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: work through doctors in their offices, How does the pricing, 76 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: how does the pass through the company? Well, let me 77 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: the size of the market, I believe is immense, and 78 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: let me talk about that. First of all, there's UH. 79 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: If you're just talking about clinical hyper hydrosis of people 80 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: that are diagnosed with having UH sweat problems that literally 81 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: go for botox and surgery, you're talking about two million worldwide. 82 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: But the market to me is the antiperspirant in the 83 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: deodorant market, which as we in sixteen will be about 84 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: an eighteen billion dollar market and is in five years 85 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: from now it's projected to be twenty four billion dollar market. 86 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: And the reason I believe that the market is that 87 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: big is because for a number of people, deodorants just 88 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: don't work. Plus people just don't like putting harsh chemicals 89 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: on under their arms. For example, if you look on 90 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: the back of your antiperspirant, almost everyone says that do 91 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: not apply if you have broken skin or or cuts. 92 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: Yet women shave under their arms every day. So I 93 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: guess the mantra for for us is it's almost like 94 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: when laser first came out for hair removal for legs, 95 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: you know, laser throw away your razor. Then lasers came out, 96 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: throw away your glasses, mirror drives coming out, and we're 97 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: staying throw away your antiperson prints and your deodorance. Just quickly, 98 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: where is the product? Where's it made? The main the 99 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: product is made in Santa Clair, California, Thank you very much. 100 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: Michael Klein is the chief executive of Miramara Labs, talking 101 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: about their technology that wipes out under arm sweat glands, 102 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: and odor. It's called Mirror Drive. You're listening to taking Stock. 103 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: I'm Pim Fox my co host Kathleen Hayes, and this 104 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg.