WEBVTT - Drive Time: Combine Day 3 Coverage with Matt Miller 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:05.920 To on the move, going deep speedways past Peas from 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:10.360 the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:14.640 This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.360 He's got my hands in the playoffs. 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:29.000 What is up Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:31.440 I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:35.360 another day on Radio Row in Indianapolis from the Indiana 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:37.840 Convention Center. We have a couple of big time guests 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:40.159 for you. Plus we're gonna preview the actual workouts that 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:43.360 happen on the field at Lucas Oil Stadiums starting tonight 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:47.520 Thursday with I Believe it's the defensive line and linebackers 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:50.840 getting after it. The twenty twenty four NFL scouting combine 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:54.280 about to get underway. From Radio Row in Indianapolis. This 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:56.840 is the Draft Time Podcast. 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:59.960 Oh well, daph first go ahead. 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.720 Kick off today's show with my first guest on Thursday 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:06.080 from ESPN. You might Reprehent from Bleitcher Report, but now 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:09.080 ESPN Matt Miller. Very excited to be joined today for 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:11.000 the first time in the Draft Time Podcast by the 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:14.560 great ESPN Draft analyst and insider at NFL Draft scout, 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:15.119 Matt Miller. 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:16.160 Matt, thank you for your time today. 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:17.440 Yeah, of course, appreciate you having me on. 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:19.080 So you just posted a mock draft, and I want 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:21.240 to get some Dolphin stuff eventually here because why else 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:23.160 would we have in the podcast. But you also cover 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:25.880 the entire draft and the entire National Football League, and 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:28.440 I like asking guys like yourself, your coworker Jordan Reed, 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:30.800 just to kind of describe the draft in general, for 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:33.000 some storylines from this year's class that has you excited 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:33.920 about twenty twenty four. 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:36.240 Yeah, I think this is a great offensive draft. 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:37.920 You know, we might see the first ten picks in 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:40.000 the draft might all be offense, maybe even a little 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:42.120 bit deeper than that. You know, even whether you're doing 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:44.080 a mock draft or building your big board of your 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:47.320 player rankings, it's notable. You know, quarterbacks are heavy at 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:49.760 the top, wide receivers very heavy at the top. Couple 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:51.960 offensive tackles are in that group as well. So it 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:55.400 is one of the deeper offensive drafts is in terms 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:58.600 of round one, deeper talent on offense that I've seen 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:02.920 maybe ever truly a special class. So, you know, Dolphins 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:04.840 are a pretty set at quarterback and wide receiver. 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.200 But that's where the talent in this draft is well, 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:08.520 I was going to ask you because I've been doing 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:10.640 this law this week with different guests, and like, beyond 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:12.959 Tyreek and Waddell, there was kind of there could be 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:15.440 some more pass catchers in this Dolphins offense. And it 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:18.359 makes me curious because receiver for a long time was like, 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:19.359 don't take them in the first. 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.280 Round, right, right, Yeah, I was just telling someone that 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:23.280 I remember those days, I don't draft a receiver in 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:25.600 the first round, and now it's like draft the receiver 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:26.520 as fast as you can. 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:28.280 Yeah, title those guys go with the first round of 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:30.040 a year, and it's become a premium position by how 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.440 they get paid too in frequency. Right, So I'm curious 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:36.360 it doesn't make teams more inclined to be aggressive at 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:37.880 that position and go up for the receivers and. 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.200 Get them, I think so, Like you mentioned, how much 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:41.919 they're paid is a huge part of it. And you know, 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:44.440 you guys have one of the highest paid in Tyreek Kill. 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.040 So you see what that does to your roster construction 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.320 when you have twenty five million dollars or so tied 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:51.480 up in a wide receiver. Also, it used to be 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:54.679 that rookie wide receivers didn't produce early, right you know, 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.280 it was like am Kwon Bolden was the only guy 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.560 to have a thousand yards. Now it's every year, you know, 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:02.120 Garrett Wilson, Chris o'lave, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, they come 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:04.600 right in and we're talking about this might be a 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:06.400 top five wide receiver in the NFL right out of 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:09.359 the gate. Jalen Wattle has very quickly become, you know, 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.679 in a Pro Bowl caliber player. So I think that 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:13.919 is part of it too, is these players are better 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:17.040 prepared in college. But also the NFL game has shifted 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.240 to where it is so much like attack the perimeter 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.120 or attack deep, where guys like Wattle can step right 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:24.840 in because you have elite speed, you have elite field vision, 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:27.160 and it used to be so different. Everything was like 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:29.639 West Coast and timing based, so it was harder for 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:31.440 young wide receivers to make a mark. 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:33.320 I think the Dolphins offense is somewhat like that. 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.480 Wes Welker brought that over from New England and kind 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:36.800 of has that you know, timing and get on the 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:38.480 on the right spot, especially with two A talking about 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:39.240 lower quarterback. 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:41.280 But you also mentioned Wattle he broke. 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.000 I think a Kwan Bolden's reception record as a rookie, 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:45.560 and then I think it's been broken like two or 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:46.320 three times. 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.720 And it probably will be again this year, right yeah, yeah, by. 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.960 By Marvin Harrison or Lake Dambers or someone in that category. 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:53.800 How about the quarterbacks in this year's class, where do 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:55.160 you see them shaking out at the end of the day. 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:56.800 Is it going to go one, two, three? And how 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:57.920 many do we get in the first round? 0:03:57.920 --> 0:03:59.720 Do you think? I think goes one, two three is 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:01.160 in interesting. I don't think. 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:03.200 Don't let anyone tell you they know what the Patriots 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:05.160 are going to do, because even right we just found 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.000 out a week ago who's running their draft room, so 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:10.760 it's very uneven right now. They could go quarterback, they 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.400 could go left tackle, they could go wide receiver. So 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.400 I think we'll go quarterback one to four. We'll get 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.200 drafted in the first round. It is a question of 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.440 where does the third one go, and then what happens 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:22.560 to JJ McCarthy will be the fourth one off the board. 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:24.919 I think there's a chance we see five bon Knicks 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:26.280 from Oregon maybe getting in there. 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:27.600 If someone were to come back. 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:31.480 Up into the twenties, but four are great, especially for 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.000 Dolphins fans who don't need a quarterback. You want as 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:35.800 many quarterbacks as possible to go ahead of you to 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:37.120 push those guys down the board. 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:38.800 So you mentioned the idea of someone coming up, because 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:40.200 that's kind of something I've been looking at. Because the 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:42.000 Dolphins don't have picks in the third and fourth round. 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:45.160 Maybe if possible trade back from twenty one, who that 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:46.720 would be bon nicks in that spot you think and 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:48.760 what teams you think might be inclined to go up right? 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:51.560 Yeah, I mean the Minnesota Vikings have made it no 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:53.880 secret that last year they were trying to very aggressively 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:55.599 go up and get a quarterback. So if they don't 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:57.080 take one at eleven, they could be a team that 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:57.880 swings back up. 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.160 The New York Giants have two second round picks and 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:00.840 haven't need. 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:03.120 A quarterback, and at six they could all be off 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:04.960 the board, and so that would be a spot where 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:06.920 maybe you try to come back up. And because you 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:08.680 do have the two second round picks, you have that 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:12.280 ability to aggressively come up, and it's not you're not 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.240 starting to tap into future your drafts to do that. 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.080 I think if you look at the Dolphins list of knees, 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:17.520 and you talked about it in your mock draft, which 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:19.799 is up on ESPN dot com right now, ESPN Plus. 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:21.880 Go check that out or ESPN Is that right? 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:22.520 Yeah? Yeah? 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:22.960 Is that right? 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:23.160 Word? 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:23.839 I watched a lot of. 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:26.000 Golf on when you said it, it sounded right, So yeah, 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.600 we'll gos like insider, but the ESPN Plus I watched 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:30.280 a lot of golf on there and read your guys' 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:32.400 work there as well. So but in that range, I mean, 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:34.520 the offensive line class is so deep and so lower 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:36.240 this year, right, and that's where the Dolphins have, as 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:38.240 you mentioned in your piece, so many potential needs, with 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:41.600 free agency possibly wiping out the entire interior, and if 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.160 Toron Armstead retires, then maybe they have four needs on 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.360 the offensive line. But I'm curious, because I've talked a 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:49.000 lot about the interior this week with people such as yourself. 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.360 I'm curious about the tackle class because we could see 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.760 as many as six seven, eight, absolutely pick twenty one. Yeah, 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:56.600 I'm curious who you think fits that mold of that 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:59.559 Toron Armstead, of the Austin Jackson, these super athletic tackles 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:01.719 and getting space that would fit McDaniel's offense. 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.440 Yeah's Amarius Mems from Georgia is that guy. And he 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.680 only started eight games in college. He played right tackle, 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:10.560 but he has the athleticism to play left tackle. He's 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:13.200 the fit, you know, like guys like JC Latham at Alabama, 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.640 they're like bulldozers, you know, three hundred and sixty pounds. 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:17.000 He's just putting people in the dirt. 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.200 That doesn't fit this scheme where you do need your 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:21.680 tackles to be out in front, you know, blocking on 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:23.160 wide receiver screens at times. 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:24.680 So I think Mims fits that. 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.680 Mold Tyler Guiden from Oklahoma another guy who you know 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:31.240 played defensive line now he's an offensive tackle. The athleticism 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.680 is there for those two guys, and they could realistically 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:35.440 be there at twenty one. Like you said, well see 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:38.400 what happens in free agency and with potential retirements that 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:41.200 that could make tackle like the need. 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:42.960 You know, it's like you have to figure this out 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:44.200 before you think about anything else. 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:47.039 It feels like every team has multiple offensive line needs 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:48.880 every single year at the stage of where we are 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:50.720 in the NFL. But how about a guy that could 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:54.520 potentially because I look at Armstead as a potential maybe 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:56.400 one year solution if he comes back, and then maybe 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:58.480 you have to replace that next year. So back in 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.120 twenty sixteen, the Dolphins took Leamy Tunzel, who wound up 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:03.840 being kind of the foundation of our entire franchisees roster 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:06.479 off the tray to the Houston Texans, but his first 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.080 year he played left guard and then kicked out the 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.040 left tackle. Is there a guy in this year's class 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:11.760 that you think could be one of those players that 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:14.040 is a tackle but plays guard initially? 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:17.200 Yeah, both those guys I mentioned are that way. Mems 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:20.560 and Geiton definitely are. Latham is more of like your 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:22.480 right tackle, but could play guard for a year. I 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:23.840 just don't see a way that he goes to the 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:27.040 left side. He's just too big. Patrick Paul from Houston 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:28.920 in the second round would be an interesting guy. 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:30.960 Who really really good movement skills. 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:33.480 Needs to work on his lower body strength, So like, 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:34.960 could you put him at guard for a year and 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:36.280 develop him and then kick him out. 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:38.040 I definitely think you could do that with him. 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:39.800 Okay, yeah, that sounds good. There's so many guys that 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:41.760 have is just good feet, so athletic in this class 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:43.640 that can do that. Stuff, and speaking of good feet 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:45.320 and athletic receiver where we talked about it, maybe not 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:47.480 a big need for the Miami Dolphins, but I still 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:49.560 contend that last year when Wadall and Tyreek went down, 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.360 they needed someone else to be a separator inside, whether 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:55.000 it's a tight end, a big presence inside, it can 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:56.920 be a speed guy too. Who do you think would 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.000 be a good mix either at twenty one or fifty 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:01.840 five for Miami to kind of compliment the skills of 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:02.600 Tyrek and Waddle. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:02.920 Yeah. 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:04.680 The very first mock draft I did this year, I 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.120 put Xavier Worthy from Texas to the Dolphins, and people 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.400 were like, what you lose in your mind? Tyreek's getting 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:11.680 a little bit older and you need that third option. 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.920 And this offense is so explosive, so fun to watch, Like, 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.720 why wouldn't you just keep loading that that position? So 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.000 I'm saying right, So I do love the idea there. 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:23.160 Worthy absolutely fits this offense as a speed guy. I 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:25.080 don't think we'll see brock Bauers on the board at 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.119 twenty one, even though he is like the hardest player 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:28.760 in the draft to slot in the tight end out 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.559 of Georgia. It is such a deep wide receiver class 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.240 that in round two we could be looking at guys 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:37.120 like Malachi Corley from Western Kentucky Lad McConkie from Georgia. 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:38.200 There's a potential that. 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.559 Xavier Worthy because he's undersized, that like one hundred and 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:42.719 seventy five pounds, could even be there in the second round. 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:44.880 So we could fulfill our dream of having like the 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.720 fastest football team ever if he's out there with those guys, 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:48.360 I mean, h. 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:50.480 And Wattle Tyreek just add more to it Man and 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.040 DJ tol miss Week Dowandre am I that Malachai Corley 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:54.199 thinks he is going to run a four to three 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:55.080 in the fourth three range. 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:58.840 That would be insane with his size and physicality. Yeah, 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:00.760 I hope that happens. Jay, It's not wrong on that 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:02.600 stuff often, so I hope that happens. 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:05.640 He looks like a Dolphin and Niner, one of those 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:08.080 Shannahan Tree type of offenses. He looks like an absolute 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:09.680 fit with the yact that he has there. How About 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:10.959 on the DEFENSI side of the ball, And I've not 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.760 really gotten a lot of content on the defense during 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:15.640 the combine because we just don't really know what it's 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:17.880 gonna look like with a new defensive coordinator there. But 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:20.400 I want to talk about the front seven of this 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.600 of this year's class and what the Dolphins could potentially 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:24.880 do there, because once again, if Christian Wilkins walks, there 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.240 becomes a huge hole defensive tackle and that's actually where 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.120 you have Dolphins going in the first round of your 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:32.120 mock draft, which I assume is based on yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:32.959 what could happen there. 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:34.160 But we've seen Anthony. 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:35.920 We were get some tons of production out of guys 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.000 up front, you know, with Javian Clowney last year, justin 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:39.920 mattawek A. But he kind of has that crop in 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.000 Miami with Chubb and Phillips off the edge seeler and 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.559 maybe Wilkins inside. Yeah, just kind of go through the 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.840 process of twenty one to fifty five detackle edge linebacker 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:48.960 Dolphins potential fits. 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.120 You think, yeah, it's a thin defensive tackle class. 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:51.599 It really is. 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:54.320 So Bira Murphy from Texas most likely would be off 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:56.280 the board at twenty one. Then there is guys like 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:59.360 Johnny Newton from Illinois who fit this defense very well. 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:02.199 I think round two you might be reaching slightly for 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.360 guys like Leonard Taylor from Miami Michael Hall from Ohio State, 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:07.600 but they do fit that mold. I think edge rusher 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.320 is very very interesting because especially the injuries to the guys, 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:11.800 you know, when are they going to be back at 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.200 one hundred percent. I think edge rusher at twenty one 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:16.880 based on the medicals is something that could be really 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:19.640 interesting to where like Leatu Latu, who's a lot like 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.719 Jalen Phillips, could be there at twenty one. Maybe it's 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.240 a little early for Darius Robinson from Missouri, but I 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:27.760 mean he's he's made for this defense at six five 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:31.360 two ninety because he can play inside or outside, linked speed, 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:32.720 first step, quickness. 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:32.800 Or all there. 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:34.880 When we get into round two, I feel like it 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:36.640 falls off a little bit with the edge rushers where 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:39.520 you're starting to and we'll see what like if there's 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.480 a run, Like if a guy like Chop Robinson goes 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:43.640 first round, it's gonna start to thin out in round 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:45.880 two where maybe you look at his teammate Adisa Isaac, 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:48.240 you know you're but we could see enough of a 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:50.800 run in the thirties to where by fifty four you're 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.840 depleted at edge. Because it is so important and every 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:55.440 team I've talked to this year feels like they can 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:57.360 wait to get an edge player, and I think they're 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:59.720 gonna find out that everyone's trying to do the same thing, 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:01.839 and the first one is going to go off the 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:03.439 board in the thirties. Then I think we'll see that 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.400 massive run as people realize okay, wait here they come. 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:08.360 That kind of sounds like maybe Andrevik Giggle might be 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:09.120 more priorer than. 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:10.439 We thought going into the draft if it's going to 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:11.960 be that third, that position, because he was a really 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:13.679 good third rusher for us this year, and you make 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.120 the Phillips lawsuit comparison, it's freaky how similar they are, 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.319 especially like the injury history is a similar as well, 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:20.600 So it's a cool comp third with the with their 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:23.000 skills and also their backgrounds. I always love to ask 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.280 the experts here, you know, if you're in a war 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:27.160 room on draft day, who are a couple of guys 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.200 late in the draft some sleepers that you would stand 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:31.040 on the table for, and really just in pald heal 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:32.640 for them, not dolphins fits, just in general. 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:33.120 Who do you love? 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.520 I met Cody Schrader, the running back from Missouri. His 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:37.800 story is amazing to me. You know, walk on at 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:40.319 a small school in Missouri, then gets to Miszoo and 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.800 leads the SEC and rushing this past year. So you 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.040 know he's he's going to be like a rotational running back. 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.840 But he's someone i'd you know, just love watching him play. 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:50.959 Junior Colson won't be a late round pick, but it 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.440 like just my favorite football players in the draft. Junior 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.880 Colson's up there, Jahem Bell, who is a little bit 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:57.280 of a throwback like full. 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:58.840 Back, tight end, h back in South Carolina. 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:01.559 Those are the where you know, we talk about like 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:03.559 we we always have our guys and that's a list 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:05.120 all work on when we get home from here. 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:06.800 Of but maybe they're not. 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:08.840 Gonna be the first guy drafted at their position, maybe 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:10.880 they're not even a top one hundred pick, but people 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:12.800 you just believe in and will want on your team 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:14.480 like those, those three are on my list. 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:16.480 Watching both the senable, I think I put like Dolphin 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.679 next to him, Charles Clay maybe potentially down the road. 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:21.760 So last question here for you, Matt Mark Draft ESPN. 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.199 You have two picture for the Dolphins, Giant Newton like 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:26.079 you mentioned Illinois and Cooper Bebe in the second round. 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:27.199 Can you go aha and tell us about those guys 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:28.559 you talked about new a little bit of tills about it. 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:31.079 Yet Newton is something that can play inside outside. He 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:33.400 was He played all over for the Illinois defense and 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.079 he is relentless. The athleticism is there, but it's the 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.920 motor that you fall in love with because he's consistently 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:42.959 running down everyone and can be disruptive, especially as a 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:46.280 penetrator in gaps, but brings you that versatility. Cooper Bbe 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.240 is really interesting because, as you mentioned, the interior of 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:51.120 that offensive line could be depleted with free agency. Bibe 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.839 is a plug and play starter at either guard spot. 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.520 He has the mobility that you need to run this offense, 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.280 but he's enough of a finisher at the second level 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.599 where he's still under control. But he plays with that 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.120 mean streak that I think you want, especially as somebody 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:07.959 opening up this run game. You have to have, you know, 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:09.559 the agility to run the zone scheme. 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.240 He has all that. I mean, it's heavily accomplished coming 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:12.800 out of k State. 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:13.600 Very good stuff. 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:16.360 Matt Miller, NFL draft analyst and insider for ESPN at 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.520 NFL Draft Scout, I mentioned this to you off the air. 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:19.839 You had to be the first person on line to 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:20.080 get that. 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.079 Had to be right. It was two thousand and eight. 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:24.599 I remember signing up for Twitter and thinking, what do 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:26.880 I want? What are people coming to this account for? 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:27.719 That was it? 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:28.480 So it worked. 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:29.640 Appreciate you man, thank you, thank you. 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:33.000 The way he goes and you know, I'm very big 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:37.120 on hospitality and just general politeness, and I always joke 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:39.160 that since I moved from a small town in the 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:43.160 Pacific northwest to South Florida and the East Coast, that 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:46.240 I've kind of had a rude introduction into the cold 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:49.920 shoulder that is, no please and thank you, no response 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.280 when you say words to human beings. So anytime you 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.599 meet someone new and they're very kind and cordial, that 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:56.120 I always kind of goes a long way with me. 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:58.319 And Matt Miller was definitely that good stuff there with 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:00.200 the content as well. Let's go ahead and take our 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.599 first break. Comeback on the other side. I want to 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.360 go ahead and preview some dang football workouts. That's next 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:08.439 on the Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wakefield. 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:09.199 Brought to you by Auto Nation. 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:12.839 So why don't we actually talk about what's going to 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.440 happen out here Indianapolis. The most important part of the week. 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:19.560 The actual on field workouts is that the most important part. 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:21.440 I tend to think it's more about the meeting with 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.920 the players and the fact that every GM and every 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:25.880 coach for the most part, is out here and can 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:29.760 entertain potential free agent contract talks, potential trade talks, and 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:33.400 really just a general meeting place for all the biggest 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:35.680 minds in the National Football League. But I do want 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:37.280 to go ahead and spend some time on the show 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:40.440 talking about some players that figure to have great workouts 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.520 and to improve their stock a little bit in this 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.600 year's draft. And going off of this, I choose to 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.920 use the Freaks list from Bruce Feldman at The Athletic, 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:52.480 who posts a annual story in the summer ahead of 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:54.840 the college football season taking a look at I think 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:57.960 he has seventy on this year's list, players who figure 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:01.080 to test very well in Indianapolis at the Combine, and 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.600 players to figure to have draft stock heading into their 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:05.920 it's not even their final years. 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:07.120 Sometimes there's freshmen on the list as well. 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:08.640 So I want to go ahead and preview some of 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:12.360 these guys that Bruce Felman listed as potential workout warriors, 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:14.080 and then why don't we go ahead and get Kyle 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:17.280 Krabs on the podcast as well to have us have 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.320 him walk us through some players that he thinks will 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:22.600 improve their stock with of course a view through a 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.760 Miami Dolphins Lennons. So the first name on my list, 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.440 and I wrote this down last week. So it's a 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:32.720 little bit outdated already, because Marvin Harrison Junior decided to 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.680 skip the combine altogether, not just the workouts. 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:37.920 He ain't even coming out. Why is that? 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:42.840 Because he believes that training for football will serve him 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:46.640 the best opportunity to produce as a rookie. And quite frankly, 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:49.760 again talking against my own interest here on the podcast, 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:51.920 I tend to agree with him. I think it's smart 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:55.240 because the only time these guys will ever train for 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:59.000 a forty yard dash or for track type of athletic 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.880 movements in general is for this pre draft testing period, 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:06.120 right the Combine, their pro days, And what good does 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:06.440 it do you? 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:08.520 I mean to throw a four to two up there. 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:10.720 We talked to We talked with Dan Jeremiah on the 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:13.080 Tuesday podcast and he said that Malachi Corley's gonna run 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:14.960 a four to three. I had Corali in the four 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:16.600 to five range. If Corley runs a four to three, 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:19.680 that guy's skill set to me is first round potential. 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.160 He won't go that high, but that's how I feel 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:25.240 about him. So it is valuable for the players in 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:28.880 that sense. But still, and Jeremiah talks about this as well, 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:31.800 a lot of these guys have GPS tracking that takes them. 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:35.840 Essentially the numbers you would get from the combine are 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:39.000 applicable with their college tape, which is what you go 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:42.320 off of in them for the majority of your takes anyways. Right, 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:46.160 So that's kind of this Marvin Harrison aspect because I'm 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.280 reading that he did bench three hundred and eighty pounds 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:50.280 and did twenty reps at two twenty five and squad 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:54.240 at five hundred pounds. That is an exceptional, exceptional athlete. 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.200 And on that topic, that's kind of what you're looking 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.720 for from Miami Dolphins. Right when you watch the combine, 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:02.360 I want you to watch a couple of statistics, and 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:03.520 it's not the forty yard dish. 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.360 It is the ten split of the forty yard desh. 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.199 You guys might recall last year Ryan Hayes, Elijah Higgins, 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:13.200 Cam Smith, and Devon ah Chan all had lightning quick 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:14.040 ten splits. 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:15.320 How do you fire off the football? 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:17.920 That's our philosophy in South Florida, right, we want to 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.040 get off the football before you and beat you to 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.880 the spot and beat you with speed and athletic ability. 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:24.360 So keep an eye on that statistic. 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.560 Also, broad and vertical jumps are a pretty good measure 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:31.320 of a player's explosiveness, their start, stop, their acceleration, and 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.639 I guess there's some elements of long speed in that 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:35.560 as well. So those are some stats to look at 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:39.000 when you watch the workouts this weekend here in Indianapolis. 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.119 Let's go ahead and move off a list. Here we 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:43.480 go from an Ohio State player and Marvin Harrison junior 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.119 to Chris Jenkins, the defensive tackle of Michigan, who did 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:48.280 thirty two reps of two twenty five in the bench 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:51.560 and did a seven hundred and sixty pound combo twist. 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:52.680 What is that? 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:53.240 Do you know? 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:53.320 What? 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:53.840 Does JT? 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:54.440 I don't know what it is? 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.080 What's a combo twist? No, he doesn't know, No one knows, 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:58.240 but it sounds cool. 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:01.000 It's also he's also thirty pound heavier than last year's 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:03.280 freak from Michigan Mazi Smith. So Chris Jenkins has put 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:04.960 on a lot of weight on. If you guys remember 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:07.880 that name Chris Jenkins from the Carolina Panthers days, Yes, 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:10.399 we are getting old. That's the son of Chris Jenkins. 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:12.960 So Martin Harrison juniort Chris Jenkins junior. How about a 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:15.920 linebacker from Alabama Chris Braswell, if you guys watched the 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.160 Senior Bowl, he was in that game and was dominant 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:19.920 in the one on one drills and the team portions 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:21.520 as well. He got after it during that whole thing. 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:24.680 Thirty eight and a half inch vertical squad, seven hundred 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:26.399 and five pounds. A guy that to look for if 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:28.720 the Dolphins are to look at the edge position, he 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:30.280 could be a guy that improves. 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:31.480 His stock and maybe he gets on the Dolphins board. 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:34.399 Here like defensive end Chop Robinson from Penn State, a 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:37.240 six foot three, two hundred and fifty pound junior who 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:39.920 was a little bit bigger than Mikael Parsons his final year. 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:42.080 Also had a broad up of ten to seven and 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:44.240 bench press four hundred pounds with a four to four 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:44.880 seven forty. 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:46.959 I mean, this guy makes all kinds of plays. 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:49.560 Smart player, and that athletic testing is going to have 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:51.960 his name rise up the board in the first round, 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:53.280 and I would not be surprised if he's there at 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:53.679 twenty one. 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:54.920 If he's an option for you. 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.080 We talked about it with the layout two lot to 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:00.600 draft projection that I gave him earlier a couple weeks ago. 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:02.919 If there's a great edge there because of the premium 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.720 position that it is, like, don't hesitate take that spot, 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.560 get yourself more pass rushers and give yourself a cheap production, 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:11.920 productive player at a very premium position. It always works 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.560 out if you do that, if they're good players. Some 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:16.840 more names in the list here Cooper Degene from Iowa, 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:20.280 and you guys probably know him. He's what was it 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:23.320 the White versus Black Olympics that Antonio Brown was suggesting? 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:23.560 Who was? 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:24.280 I forget who was? 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:27.040 But Cooper Degen is basically the lone man on the 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:30.040 totem pole of cornerbacks because he's a white dude and 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:31.200 he flies. 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:33.399 He had a ten split of. 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:34.159 Point nine two. 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:35.120 Is that even possible? 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:37.840 They think you could break four to three at two 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:39.879 hundred and ten pounds this year? Keeping on him in 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:42.280 his forty yard dash here at the combine. Trevin Wallace, 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:44.320 a Kentucky linebacker is a guy on the list here 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:45.600 as well, at twenty two miles an hour in the 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:49.200 GPS and squat's almost six hundred pounds. LSU defensive tackle 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:51.280 Mason Smith as a six foot six, three hundred and 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:54.640 fifteen pounder who clocked nineteen point five miles per hour. 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:56.399 That's a possible name you could look at as a 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.920 potential replacement if you do lose Christian Wilkins. Like Byer 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.800 Murphy from Texas who's been clocked to eighteen miles. Prower 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:05.399 has a four hundred and fifty five pound front squat 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:07.600 and power clean at three hundred and seventy five pounds. 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:10.399 He is an absolute monster and has the tape to 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:12.600 match into Senior Bowl in his game tape as well. 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:15.080 Byron Murphy a Texas a potential name there at pick 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:17.800 twenty one for your Miami Dolphins. I got lots of 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:19.560 names here for you guys. Jared Verrch, you guys probably 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:21.440 know him from Florida State, six foot three and a half, 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:24.000 two hundred and sixty pounds, twenty one miles per hour 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:24.840 on the GPS. 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:26.600 That's why you don't want need the forty yardashes. You 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:27.280 kind of already have it. 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:30.040 He squats five fifty five benches four to fifty five. 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:34.879 Just an absolute monster. Like offensive tackle Oli Fashanu from 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:36.240 Penn State, who's not going to be on the board 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:38.040 of the Dolphins pick, but he's also on this list 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:40.000 for a four to nine to seven, four to six 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:42.640 to three shuttle and four hundred and five pounds squats 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:46.320 with a bench press I should say, six hundred pound squad, 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:47.680 three hundred fift pound power clean. 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:49.159 What a monster. 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:52.560 UCLA has a speedback that might be of interest of 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:54.720 your Miami Dolphins if he's on the board late in 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:57.440 this draft. Carson Steele six foot one, two hundred and 0:20:57.440 --> 0:21:01.000 thirty three pounds. He has amazing workout tricks across the board, 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:03.840 four hundred and fifty pound bench, six eighty five squad, 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:06.880 a twenty one mile per hour time speed this year 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:08.879 with a vertical of thirty five inches. Those are the 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:10.480 kind of backs that might get your fancy in the 0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:13.119 late part of the draft. How about linebacker Peyton Wilson 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:15.359 from NC State I've talked about on the podcast, kind 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:17.520 of has some Keiko Alonso to his game. If you're 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:20.520 talking about a Dolphins comp there a four four ninety 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:23.119 four to two to one in his pro agility shuttle, 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:26.760 which is essentially his workout in college before before the season, 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:28.520 ahead of the year. You might go to the combine 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:30.840 also bench three ninety thirty five and a half inch 0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:33.119 vertical and a nine to eight and a half broad 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:35.760 What a stud that he is a couple of defensive 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:38.040 backs for you guys here, Tyler Owens from Texas Tech 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:40.760 is six two to two oh five twenty three mile 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:43.359 an hour clock in speed this year or in in 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:46.240 game clock speed this year with a forty inch vertical. 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:48.320 Might be keeping eye on dbach with the Dolphins, Cam 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:49.040 Hart nore Dame. 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:51.040 Similar story there at twenty one point seven miles per 0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:53.760 hour clock GPS time there he can flat out fly. 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:55.320 And a guy that might fit with the Dolphins want 0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:58.080 to do under Anthony Weaver. How about some skill spots. 0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:00.960 Malik Neighbors a vertical jump of almost forty inches, and 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:02.800 you guys know about Neighbors. He's not gonna be on 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:05.080 the board of the Dolphins pick, but he is juice 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:07.879 on top of juice on top of juice. Wisconsin running 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:10.879 back Braylan Allen is an interesting kind of juxtaposition to 0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:14.720 Devon Ah Channon Raheem moster more in that Chris Brooks 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:17.679 category four h six pounds power clean and a one 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:20.560 four to nine ten split, So there's your explosiveness. He 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:22.959 also benched three to sixty five and just as an 0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:25.720 absolute monster. There's plenty more names on this list. Quinian Mitchell, 0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:28.639 the Toledo cornerback if the Dolphins go in the defensive backfield, 0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:31.560 two hundred and twenty five pounds. He benched that twenty 0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:34.439 one times this year. He weighs two ten also ran 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:36.520 in the four to threes twice this past spring, and 0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:38.200 has a twenty three and a half mile an hour 0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:41.640 top speed. He is an oppressive, impressive athlete. You guys 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:43.880 know about Brock Bauers. He is a ten to two 0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:46.399 broad jump thirty six inch vertical would be tied for 0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:48.760 the fourth most among tight ends last year at the 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:51.359 combine that forty times, somewhere in the four or five range. 0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:52.880 Probably not gonna be the boor of the Dolphins pick, 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:55.760 but he's an interesting name. I also put Sion Vaki, 0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:58.280 the Utah safety who I love his game. He is 0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:01.239 already benching four hundred pounds, squats five twenty and has 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:03.640 a vertical jump with thirty nine inches ten foot five 0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:05.119 and a half in the broad jump. And then I 0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:08.040 put my two guys in here, Rowan Wilson and Malachai Corley, 0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:11.480 who both made the Freaks List this past year. Here's 0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:14.639 a Roman Wilson's line here, a former fastest man at 0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:16.920 the opening as a high school recruit, having clocked four 0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:19.400 to three seven forty and at six foot one ninety 0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:23.200 three pounds senior, he wows coaches with his ability to accelerate, 0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:26.440 decelerate and control his body. This offseason, Wilson clocked a 0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:28.040 four to three to three forty out of a two 0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:30.720 point stance and ran a sizzling six foot point two 0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:33.320 to three cone drill that was only upstage by teammate 0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:36.439 Amari and Walker. I mean three seven seven shuttle, had 0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:39.080 terrific ten point seven six sixty yard shuttle and flew 0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:43.760 up the Wolverines reactive plio stairs in two point two seconds. 0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:45.000 What does that mean? I don't know, but it sounds 0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:46.520 like he's a hell of an athlete. We know how 0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:46.880 he works. 0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:49.400 Then Malachai Corley led the country and yards after catch 0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:52.280 with nine hundred and seventy five and missed tackles forced 0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:54.800 with forty sounds like a dolphin, doesn't he He's two 0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:56.920 hundred and twenty five foot eleven frame, looking more like 0:23:56.960 --> 0:23:58.879 a running back of the new typical receiver. He's hit 0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:01.119 twenty three miles per hour on the GPS and clocked 0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:03.840 four four three forty yard dashes. You heard Jeremia say 0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:06.120 he my clip four three's that would be very, very impressive. 0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:08.239 We gets to that range four eight shuttle and three 0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:10.639 ft five bench. That's a very nice combination as far 0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:13.080 as an athlete goes there. So there's some interesting workouts 0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:15.040 to keep an eye on there. We'll cover more of 0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:17.000 this with Kyle Krabs and some other just general draft talk, 0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:18.080 but I want to get that out there for you 0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:22.000 guys before the combine starts here on the podcast. Let's 0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:24.240 go ahead and pivot now to my final guest here 0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:26.560 on this day. I welcome to him, the great EJ. 0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:29.240 Snyer from the Bootleg Football Podcast. He'll come back after 0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:32.959 the break with us and talk about some combine trends, 0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:37.080 some combine storylines, and of course the Miami Dolphins. That's 0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:39.560 the next Draft Time podcast, your host, Travis Wingfield, brought 0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:39.720 to you. 0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:40.400 By Auto Nation. 0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:44.399 Joining me today from the floor at the Indiana Convention 0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:46.879 Center here Indianapolis is the great EJ Stneyder from the 0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:48.080 Bootleg Football podcast. 0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:50.080 EJ finally made it happen to me. How you doing, man? 0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:52.440 Fantastic We get to meet in person for the first time, 0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:54.240 which a lot of your listeners will probably be surprised 0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:56.400 by because we've done this several times now. 0:24:56.480 --> 0:24:58.280 And you know you used to live right by me 0:24:58.440 --> 0:24:59.760 before you move down to Florida. 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:03.159 Take this gig, but it's great to put names of faces, 0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:06.520 handshakes on, you know, previously profile photos and get it 0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:06.960 all done. 0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:10.879 Yeah, you guys almost almost forced a move back from 0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:13.560 the wingfields when you showed me that studio up in 0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:15.680 Where is that at you guys shoot those from the 0:25:15.880 --> 0:25:16.720 divisional previews? 0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:17.200 Oh? 0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:20.520 Well, that actually is Brett's place in La No. No, 0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:24.359 we just did an airbnb Okay, Yeah, that studio was amazing, man. 0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:27.080 Yeah, beautiful. It worked out really nicely. We're hoping to 0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:29.600 do that again this year. But it definitely added something. 0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:32.480 And Brett had never been to the Pacific Northwest in 0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:35.840 the summer and now he wants to live the Okay, 0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:39.560 I get it. Yeah, it's pretty much. It's summer in 0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:43.080 Seattle is like February in South Florida. It's perfect every 0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:45.200 single day. You cannot beat up. But you guys aren't 0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:46.640 here for weather talk. You're here for some draft talk. 0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:48.679 And they just published a new episode on the Bootleg 0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:51.480 Football podcast taking a preview, or I should say, a 0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:55.359 look at the combine, previewing this week's work from the 0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:57.840 players and also what happens here, which is and I 0:25:57.920 --> 0:25:59.720 saw Bretts sweet this morning about how this is my 0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:01.639 first combine and this is not what I thought it 0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:04.320 was at all. Yes, Brett, there are lots of late nights, 0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:06.440 there are lots of drinks consumed, there are lots of 0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:08.679 conversations about things that go on, but that's not. 0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:10.080 Really the mode that we are in. 0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:12.119 I want to hear from your perspective on what you 0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:14.840 expect to see during these workouts this week, because it 0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:18.399 seems EJ like every year they get faster, they get bigger, 0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:20.840 they get stronger, they get more impressive, don't they. 0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:24.760 They absolutely do every year. Athletic training is an entire industry. 0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:27.560 I think a lot of people might not be familiar 0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:31.679 with how organized that is and how involved agents are 0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:33.600 and that is just part of the package. When you're 0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:36.119 in the pre draft cycle, right, you get sign with 0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:37.159 an agent, they have a. 0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:38.440 Training house that they work with. 0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:40.879 You usually ship off and go live there for six weeks, 0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:44.960 do diet, do all kinds of stretching, and it's purely 0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:46.600 to train to get ready for this event. 0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:50.440 And that is a major piece of this. 0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:53.560 And you know, I think the biggest story probably is 0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:56.000 the folks that aren't doing it this year, that are 0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:58.960 sort of bucking the trend. Marvin Harrison junior, you know, 0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:02.000 very important, certainly said I'm not gonna switch up what 0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:05.040 I'm doing training to play football to train to run 0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:07.280 a forty. And a lot of people do that, and 0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:09.840 it's very difficult on a body. You end a college season. 0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:12.119 You have in some cases, I mean the Texas and 0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:15.320 Washington guys opted out of the Senior and Trine because 0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:17.800 they were it was ten days removed from their last game. 0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:19.040 Crazy they need some rest. 0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:21.760 But all those other players are again moving across the 0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:24.600 country learn how to run forties. Maybe if you're alignment, 0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:26.240 you've never done that, if you're not a track guy. 0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:28.280 And then as soon as you're done with that and 0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:30.760 you get drafted, you got to switch back and turn 0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:33.639 yourself back into a football player. So it's fascinating to 0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:37.040 see those trends. But yes, bigger, faster, Absolutely, we're gonna 0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:39.720 see probably the record broken for guys over three hundred 0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:43.360 running under five second forties because that happens every year. 0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:48.000 Kingsley Suamataia the tackle from byu A noted. You know, 0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:50.720 Felden Freak's list candidate for the last couple of years. 0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:54.080 He's been a solid four to nine guy for a 0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:56.560 couple of years, and there are many whispers that he 0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:59.920 might break four to eight something at three hundred and whatever. 0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:00.960 He is fifteen pounds, so. 0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:01.600 That's not human. 0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:02.520 It's intense. 0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:05.560 I mean, do you feel like that could be like 0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:08.199 kind of the beginning of the end of the scouting combine, 0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:11.520 because like Marvin Harrison making that move, they have all 0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:13.760 this stuff in like GPS tracking right, like the pads 0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:17.080 are all gps'd out, Like it sounds like that's almost 0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:18.320 the beginning of the end of the combine. 0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:20.000 You know, people have. 0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:22.760 Said that, and I think it's a beginning of the change, 0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:25.879 like a significant change in the combine. Because we have 0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.640 to remember that Marvin Harrison Junior is an elite prospect 0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:30.560 for those not familiar with them. Yes, the son of 0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:33.720 the great Marvin Harrison Jr. Or Marvin Harrison Senior, the 0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:36.959 Hall of Famer, you know, great blood Lions, has had 0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:40.520 a tremendous college career, has elevated himself to the top 0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:42.840 of the wide receiver rankings pretty much. I haven't seen 0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:46.160 anybody not have him there. So he's in a unique position. 0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:48.320 He can say I'm gonna do what I want. I 0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:50.360 know where I'm going anyways, I really don't have the 0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:54.120 ability to increase my stock, but I could hurt myself, 0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:58.080 so I'm not going to most players what they're almost 0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:01.360 three hundred players here don't have that luxury, and they 0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:04.320 are trying to show something that they're faster, that they're stronger, 0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:05.960 that they are you know, get a look in front 0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:07.880 of scouts in terms of the motion or movement drills. 0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:10.120 Marvin Harrison Junior doesn't need any of those. 0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:13.200 The majority of guys here, ninety five percent of them 0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:17.080 do need that, do want that. They absolutely want these 0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:19.360 press sessions that you guys are recording in terms of 0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:22.360 being able to talk about their experience and what they're 0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:24.560 looking forward to in the league. It is a huge 0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:26.600 opportunity for all those guys. It's the COMBA is not 0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:30.240 going away anytime soon. Good, but it will probably change 0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:30.640 because I. 0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:32.400 Love my weekend India. I gotta have it every single year. 0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:34.640 Man. It reminds me that Dion SANDERSO, Hey, where y'all 0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:36.680 pick number eight. I'm not gonna be there. I'm not 0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:38.120 making up the phone on you right now. I'm not 0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:39.640 going that far anyway. So do you go ahead and 0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:41.560 save your your pre draft meeting with mixed It ain't 0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:44.160 gonna happen anyways. But yeah, it's interesting, and that's it's 0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:46.400 kind of like it almost coincides with the Senior Bowl 0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:48.680 getting more and more talent every year, it seems like, 0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:50.520 so it kind of could be a good balance. They're like, 0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:52.320 I'm gonna go show my stuff in a game situation 0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:54.920 and practice situations and I'll take off the combine where 0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:55.959 they measure you there as well. 0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:57.800 So it's like a good mix there of kind of 0:29:57.840 --> 0:29:59.360 balancing how this class shakes out. 0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:01.720 Let's pivot Miami Dolphins focus here because it is the 0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:04.640 Draft Time podcast. On the Miami Dolphins Podcast, I work 0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:07.080 my guest today's e J Steer from the botleg Football Podcast. 0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:08.400 I'm curious what you think. 0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:10.520 We're back in the first round for the first time 0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:13.400 in two years without a first round pick, so the 0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:15.000 first time in three years. I guess's how you'd say that. 0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:16.960 What do you think man pick twenty one? There's some 0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:18.920 options there. Offensive line is kind of up in the 0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:20.480 air right now in terms of free agency. All of 0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:22.200 our guys for the most part, are are on the 0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:23.479 market right are going to be on the market come 0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:25.880 to the new league year. The offense kind of bogged 0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:28.000 down late in the year. New defensive cordator Anthony Weaver. 0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:29.240 Who in that position? 0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:31.520 Do you kind of like for Miami's frame of mind 0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:34.040 a little bit? The world's their oyster, and that's not 0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:36.080 a bad thing. A lot of times people think, when 0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:38.520 you're in the twenties, oh all these all the talent's 0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:40.680 going to go off the board. Look, there are very 0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:43.400 many talented players in this draft, and especially offensive linemen 0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:48.440 inside and outside. So tackle you need very talented tackle class, 0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:50.720 the intier offensive line class. I think a bunch of 0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:52.880 people kind of keeped on it and said it's not 0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:55.560 the greatest. Early on in the process, I was among those. 0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:58.000 I thought, there's probably not a lot of depth that's center. 0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:00.600 The more I got into this class and the more 0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:02.400 I did my study on my top say one hundred 0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:04.880 and fifty ish guys, there's there's a lot more talent 0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:07.080 there at both spots. So if you are in the 0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:10.440 need for offensive line inside or outside, it's a nice spot. 0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:12.840 You are not going to be, you know, bereft of 0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:15.600 options in the twenties for either side. And then like 0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:18.680 you said, with Weaver coming in, you know, releasing Davin 0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:21.600 like you could use a cornerback. It's a good cornerback draft. 0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:23.960 I don't think there's as many guys up high. There's 0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.280 a few, but then those sort of middle rounds like 0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:29.280 two to four, so a bunch of guys that can 0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:31.720 play outside, that have size, that have speed. There's probably 0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:33.840 more size in this cornerback class than we've seen in 0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:36.320 a very long time in terms of you remember three 0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:38.440 four years ago, if there was a guy then I said, oh, 0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:39.440 it's the six three corner. 0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:42.080 You go, oh, I know, the one now street corner. 0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:43.920 Ago you go, is this six to four guy, the 0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.560 three six three guys or the eight guys that are 0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:47.440 six two or less. 0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:49.719 So a lot of guys out there with a lot 0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:51.440 of size, so a lot of options. 0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:53.240 For you big foun of the slot cornerbacks too, I 0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:54.880 mean Wsu Guy Shawsmith Way. 0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:55.600 I love his game. 0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:58.840 The Michigan kid, Sandra Still, He's an absolute playmaker. Who's 0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:00.640 the Missouri kid that was in this at the Senior Bowl? 0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:04.080 I forget it's the Rakestraw No, no crusade straight yeah, yeah, 0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:05.840 yeah yeah. He was nice to watch as well. So 0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:07.760 there's all kinds of options in the defensive backfield. I'm 0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:09.400 really curious to see what coach Weaver does because he 0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:12.120 already has two chess pieces back there in Jalen Ramsey 0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:13.440 and Javon holl and he's going to add to that, 0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:15.280 I'm sure at some point this offseason. But I want 0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:16.760 to go back something you mentioned on the offensive line there, 0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:18.680 because you talked about there's kind of a flavor for 0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:20.360 everybody Dolphins in the past. 0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:21.120 We'll see what happens this. 0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:24.040 Year because McDaniel believes an evolution and always growing your offense. 0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:26.520 But in the past they've been very heavy on guys 0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:28.239 that show well on the ten split, guys that can 0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:30.480 get off the football and get you in that wide zone. 0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.160 Look get off line scrimmage and get your butt out 0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:33.960 there right go block a defensive back off the edge. 0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:35.880 There's some guys in this year's class that you think 0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:38.240 might pop in that category. The ten split on the 0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:40.560 forty yard dashes. I know it's a very niche question. 0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:42.240 That's why I go to you, though it's. 0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:44.920 Actually not, and it is the measurement that you're looking 0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.760 for for offensive lineman because the reality of offensive lineman 0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:50.440 running forty yards in a game, they all joke that 0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:51.720 they have to do it once and it's here and 0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:53.840 they never do it again. Now that's not exactly true, 0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:56.520 but it's close at what they really do for their 0:32:56.600 --> 0:32:59.080 day to day bread and butter is fire off the ball. 0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:01.240 And so you want us see that explosion for again, 0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:04.400 a three hundred pound guy accelerating that mass over the 0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:07.680 first few yards where he's gonna find contact. And there 0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:10.360 are gonna be guys in this year's draft especially who 0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:12.640 are extremely explosive in the short area. We saw Jackson 0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:17.960 Powers Johnson, the true junior center from Oregon who got 0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:21.760 an opportunity to play because of an injury. He took 0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:23.520 that job by the raid and never gave it back. 0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:26.040 He is massive, he's three hundred and I think he 0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:30.320 weighed like twenty three pounds and three thirty fourth. It's 0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:32.920 a huge guy for center. You don't normally see that 0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:35.520 much size at center, but he a lot of people think, oh, 0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:38.000 he's a hulk and he can just anchor. No, his 0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:41.200 tape is full of examples of him getting outside wide zone. 0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:43.560 Stop me if you've heard this one being a Dolphins 0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:44.760 guy right and just. 0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:47.880 Demolishing corners and safeties on the edge and he loves it. 0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:51.800 He's like nineteen twenty years old. He's very young, extremely 0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:55.120 capable athletically, and you know, is he gonna last that long? 0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:56.200 Is probably the only question. 0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:58.480 Yeah, he's been a hot name on this show this 0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:01.240 week at this table right here, because everyone talks about him. 0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:02.800 It seems like every fan base kind of wants a 0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:04.920 piece of JPG. At this point, let's go ahead and 0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:07.240 finish up here at the skill positions. Because you asked 0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.200 me yesterday what do you think the Dolphins' biggest needs are? 0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:10.640 And I said, I don't know about I don't know, 0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:14.000 Like it's kind of hard to determine because I just 0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:15.960 had Kyle Krabs do our show. That's gonna come out, 0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:18.680 I think on Friday, and he was talking about, you 0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:21.879 know how the Dolphins are kind of in this range 0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:25.000 of you know, that's an area you could explore in 0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:27.759 the draft or free agency, and I'm like, I think 0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:31.160 it's an area that they have to address because not 0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:33.480 just the way that Waddle and Tyrker used and it's 0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:35.799 a lot of substitution that coming in out, but if 0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:37.480 one of them gets dinged up, we really saw the 0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:39.080 impact of that last year, and so I think that 0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:41.919 the ability to get a third separat or a third 0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:44.840 pass catcher might be a big value to the Dolphins offense. 0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:47.080 Whether it's tight end receiver, who do you like in 0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:49.359 those first two rounds, whether it's pick twenty one, pick 0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:51.680 fifty three, maybe a trade back in that range who 0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:53.960 kind of fits in that mold for a skill player 0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:56.359 that can help this offense go even higher to nother level. 0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:58.160 No, I would agree with you, And I think it's 0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:00.600 a shift in the league that we've seen with wide receiver. 0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:02.480 I think back to like Ron Wolf when he was 0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:04.759 running the Green Bay Packers and he said I'm gonna 0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:07.520 pick a quarterback every year. I think that shifted and 0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:09.560 I think it's I'm gonna pick a wide receiver every 0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:11.719 year because you could look at almost any team in 0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:14.359 the NFL and none of them are like, oh, we're good. 0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:16.920 There might be two teams in the NFL that are like, no, 0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:19.680 we're three deep, We're fine. So in terms of guys 0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:23.520 that are really explosive, there's a lot of options, very 0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:27.920 deep wide receiver class. A guy like Jamari Thrash out 0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:30.840 of Louisville is very explosive. He's a yack threat. I 0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:32.960 really like Malik Washington. He's gonna be a little bit 0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:34.480 farther down the board. I don't think he should be, 0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:36.480 but he's out of the University of Virginia. I think 0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:38.640 McDaniel will look at his tape and go, oh, give 0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:41.200 me some of that. So they could again wait even 0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:43.560 longer than those first two rounds and pick up a 0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:44.399 pick farther back. 0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:46.920 And there's so much depth in this wide receiver class 0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:47.920 that you can find it. 0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:48.160 Now. 0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:51.600 If you want the big explosive alphas outside, you're gonna 0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:53.160 have to pay a premium for those or get a 0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:55.600 more developmental guy. But guys from the slot, a lot 0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:57.839 of people are gonna be talking about Roman Wilson out 0:35:57.880 --> 0:35:59.799 of Michigan. He's going to test out of his mind 0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:01.440 this week, and that's just going to push me even 0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:05.160 higher into that conversation. There's a lot of options, So 0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:07.000 if you kind of have your heart set on one 0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:09.160 and they get picked, this is not the year that 0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:11.040 you kind of have to have your stomach fall out 0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:13.319 and panic. You've got plenty of other options coming down 0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:13.640 the pipe. 0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:15.960 I promise that EJ was not prep for this podcast 0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:18.640 because Jackson Powers Johnson and Roman Wilson ap probably the 0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:21.600 two most mentioned prospects by your boy on this show. 0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:24.560 I love those players. I love their skill sets. EJ. 0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:26.880 Bootleg Football Podcast. What's coming up on the con for 0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:28.560 you guys' content this week? Tell the folks where they 0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:28.880 can find you. 0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:29.279 Yeah. 0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:30.879 So for draft season, it's a pot a week. 0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:32.600 We put out the pod earlier and then one of 0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:34.680 the interviews that we recorded at Trin Bowl. So we'll 0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:37.080 have our first interview later this week, and that'll be 0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:39.760 two pieces a week every week up until the Combine 0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:42.600 or sorry, up until the Draft. We've got a great 0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:44.440 slot of guests. It's really what I'm doing here this 0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:47.200 week is lining up everybody. Jordan Reed will be back, 0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:50.400 Matt Bohene will be back, We're gonna have some special 0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:52.440 guests that have not been on the podcast before, some 0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:56.359 folks you've talked to recently. So we're really excited about 0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:58.879 the slate and it just rolls until we are until 0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:00.960 late April. And guys, you're going to new teams. 0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:03.000 Yeah, make sure you find them at the Bootleg Football Podcast. 0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:05.160 He and Brett Colman do a great job all year round. 0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:07.160 It's some of the bestootball content you guys can find 0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:09.439 out there. Eja, appreciate your time today, man, and enjoy 0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:10.200 the rest of your weekend. 0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:14.000 India. Hey, thanks for having me. Always a great time anytime, man, and. 0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:16.319 Away he goes, and away we go on this edition 0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:19.080 of the Draft Time Podcast tomorrow. I'm very excited for 0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:21.360 this episode with Kyle Craps. We took a look at 0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:23.719 his free agent board, what the combine could do for 0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:25.680 the Dolphins draft prospects, and just how they're going to 0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:27.799 build this dang thing in twenty twenty four. 0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:28.560 That's tomorrow. 0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:31.239 We'll also come back on Monday recap the workouts and 0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:33.480 just kind of get into what might happen in a 0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:35.840 couple of weeks here in the new league year for 0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:36.720 your Miami Dolphins. 0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:38.400 All that ahead, but for today, I'm going to go 0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:39.520 ahead and sign off you all. 0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:42.880 Please be sure to subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify, 0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:45.399 wherever you get your podcasts from. Go ahead and leave 0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:47.040 us that rating and leave us that review. 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