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Speaker 3: What is up Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 3: I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show,
Speaker 3: another day on Radio Row in Indianapolis from the Indiana
Speaker 3: Convention Center. We have a couple of big time guests
Speaker 3: for you. Plus we're gonna preview the actual workouts that
Speaker 3: happen on the field at Lucas Oil Stadiums starting tonight
Speaker 3: Thursday with I Believe it's the defensive line and linebackers
Speaker 3: getting after it. The twenty twenty four NFL scouting combine
Speaker 3: about to get underway. From Radio Row in Indianapolis. This
Speaker 3: is the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 4: Oh well, daph first go ahead.
Speaker 3: Kick off today's show with my first guest on Thursday
Speaker 3: from ESPN. You might Reprehent from Bleitcher Report, but now
Speaker 3: ESPN Matt Miller. Very excited to be joined today for
Speaker 3: the first time in the Draft Time Podcast by the
Speaker 3: great ESPN Draft analyst and insider at NFL Draft scout,
Speaker 3: Matt Miller.
Speaker 4: Matt, thank you for your time today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, appreciate you having me on.
Speaker 3: So you just posted a mock draft, and I want
Speaker 3: to get some Dolphin stuff eventually here because why else
Speaker 3: would we have in the podcast. But you also cover
Speaker 3: the entire draft and the entire National Football League, and
Speaker 3: I like asking guys like yourself, your coworker Jordan Reed,
Speaker 3: just to kind of describe the draft in general, for
Speaker 3: some storylines from this year's class that has you excited
Speaker 3: about twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is a great offensive draft.
Speaker 5: You know, we might see the first ten picks in
Speaker 5: the draft might all be offense, maybe even a little
Speaker 5: bit deeper than that. You know, even whether you're doing
Speaker 5: a mock draft or building your big board of your
Speaker 5: player rankings, it's notable. You know, quarterbacks are heavy at
Speaker 5: the top, wide receivers very heavy at the top. Couple
Speaker 5: offensive tackles are in that group as well. So it
Speaker 5: is one of the deeper offensive drafts is in terms
Speaker 5: of round one, deeper talent on offense that I've seen
Speaker 5: maybe ever truly a special class. So, you know, Dolphins
Speaker 5: are a pretty set at quarterback and wide receiver.
Speaker 3: But that's where the talent in this draft is well,
Speaker 3: I was going to ask you because I've been doing
Speaker 3: this law this week with different guests, and like, beyond
Speaker 3: Tyreek and Waddell, there was kind of there could be
Speaker 3: some more pass catchers in this Dolphins offense. And it
Speaker 3: makes me curious because receiver for a long time was like,
Speaker 3: don't take them in the first.
Speaker 5: Round, right, right, Yeah, I was just telling someone that
Speaker 5: I remember those days, I don't draft a receiver in
Speaker 5: the first round, and now it's like draft the receiver
Speaker 5: as fast as you can.
Speaker 3: Yeah, title those guys go with the first round of
Speaker 3: a year, and it's become a premium position by how
Speaker 3: they get paid too in frequency. Right, So I'm curious
Speaker 3: it doesn't make teams more inclined to be aggressive at
Speaker 3: that position and go up for the receivers and.
Speaker 5: Get them, I think so, Like you mentioned, how much
Speaker 5: they're paid is a huge part of it. And you know,
Speaker 5: you guys have one of the highest paid in Tyreek Kill.
Speaker 5: So you see what that does to your roster construction
Speaker 5: when you have twenty five million dollars or so tied
Speaker 5: up in a wide receiver. Also, it used to be
Speaker 5: that rookie wide receivers didn't produce early, right you know,
Speaker 5: it was like am Kwon Bolden was the only guy
Speaker 5: to have a thousand yards. Now it's every year, you know,
Speaker 5: Garrett Wilson, Chris o'lave, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, they come
Speaker 5: right in and we're talking about this might be a
Speaker 5: top five wide receiver in the NFL right out of
Speaker 5: the gate. Jalen Wattle has very quickly become, you know,
Speaker 5: in a Pro Bowl caliber player. So I think that
Speaker 5: is part of it too, is these players are better
Speaker 5: prepared in college. But also the NFL game has shifted
Speaker 5: to where it is so much like attack the perimeter
Speaker 5: or attack deep, where guys like Wattle can step right
Speaker 5: in because you have elite speed, you have elite field vision,
Speaker 5: and it used to be so different. Everything was like
Speaker 5: West Coast and timing based, so it was harder for
Speaker 5: young wide receivers to make a mark.
Speaker 4: I think the Dolphins offense is somewhat like that.
Speaker 3: Wes Welker brought that over from New England and kind
Speaker 3: of has that you know, timing and get on the
Speaker 3: on the right spot, especially with two A talking about
Speaker 3: lower quarterback.
Speaker 4: But you also mentioned Wattle he broke.
Speaker 3: I think a Kwan Bolden's reception record as a rookie,
Speaker 3: and then I think it's been broken like two or
Speaker 3: three times.
Speaker 2: And it probably will be again this year, right yeah, yeah, by.
Speaker 4: By Marvin Harrison or Lake Dambers or someone in that category.
Speaker 3: How about the quarterbacks in this year's class, where do
Speaker 3: you see them shaking out at the end of the day.
Speaker 4: Is it going to go one, two, three? And how
Speaker 4: many do we get in the first round?
Speaker 2: Do you think? I think goes one, two three is
Speaker 2: in interesting. I don't think.
Speaker 5: Don't let anyone tell you they know what the Patriots
Speaker 5: are going to do, because even right we just found
Speaker 5: out a week ago who's running their draft room, so
Speaker 5: it's very uneven right now. They could go quarterback, they
Speaker 5: could go left tackle, they could go wide receiver. So
Speaker 5: I think we'll go quarterback one to four. We'll get
Speaker 5: drafted in the first round. It is a question of
Speaker 5: where does the third one go, and then what happens
Speaker 5: to JJ McCarthy will be the fourth one off the board.
Speaker 5: I think there's a chance we see five bon Knicks
Speaker 5: from Oregon maybe getting in there.
Speaker 2: If someone were to come back.
Speaker 5: Up into the twenties, but four are great, especially for
Speaker 5: Dolphins fans who don't need a quarterback. You want as
Speaker 5: many quarterbacks as possible to go ahead of you to
Speaker 5: push those guys down the board.
Speaker 3: So you mentioned the idea of someone coming up, because
Speaker 3: that's kind of something I've been looking at. Because the
Speaker 3: Dolphins don't have picks in the third and fourth round.
Speaker 3: Maybe if possible trade back from twenty one, who that
Speaker 3: would be bon nicks in that spot you think and
Speaker 3: what teams you think might be inclined to go up right?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the Minnesota Vikings have made it no
Speaker 5: secret that last year they were trying to very aggressively
Speaker 5: go up and get a quarterback. So if they don't
Speaker 5: take one at eleven, they could be a team that
Speaker 5: swings back up.
Speaker 2: The New York Giants have two second round picks and
Speaker 2: haven't need.
Speaker 5: A quarterback, and at six they could all be off
Speaker 5: the board, and so that would be a spot where
Speaker 5: maybe you try to come back up. And because you
Speaker 5: do have the two second round picks, you have that
Speaker 5: ability to aggressively come up, and it's not you're not
Speaker 5: starting to tap into future your drafts to do that.
Speaker 3: I think if you look at the Dolphins list of knees,
Speaker 3: and you talked about it in your mock draft, which
Speaker 3: is up on ESPN dot com right now, ESPN Plus.
Speaker 4: Go check that out or ESPN Is that right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 5: Word?
Speaker 4: I watched a lot of.
Speaker 3: Golf on when you said it, it sounded right, So yeah,
Speaker 3: we'll gos like insider, but the ESPN Plus I watched
Speaker 3: a lot of golf on there and read your guys'
Speaker 3: work there as well. So but in that range, I mean,
Speaker 3: the offensive line class is so deep and so lower
Speaker 3: this year, right, and that's where the Dolphins have, as
Speaker 3: you mentioned in your piece, so many potential needs, with
Speaker 3: free agency possibly wiping out the entire interior, and if
Speaker 3: Toron Armstead retires, then maybe they have four needs on
Speaker 3: the offensive line. But I'm curious, because I've talked a
Speaker 3: lot about the interior this week with people such as yourself.
Speaker 3: I'm curious about the tackle class because we could see
Speaker 3: as many as six seven, eight, absolutely pick twenty one. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm curious who you think fits that mold of that
Speaker 3: Toron Armstead, of the Austin Jackson, these super athletic tackles
Speaker 3: and getting space that would fit McDaniel's offense.
Speaker 5: Yeah's Amarius Mems from Georgia is that guy. And he
Speaker 5: only started eight games in college. He played right tackle,
Speaker 5: but he has the athleticism to play left tackle. He's
Speaker 5: the fit, you know, like guys like JC Latham at Alabama,
Speaker 5: they're like bulldozers, you know, three hundred and sixty pounds.
Speaker 2: He's just putting people in the dirt.
Speaker 5: That doesn't fit this scheme where you do need your
Speaker 5: tackles to be out in front, you know, blocking on
Speaker 5: wide receiver screens at times.
Speaker 2: So I think Mims fits that.
Speaker 5: Mold Tyler Guiden from Oklahoma another guy who you know
Speaker 5: played defensive line now he's an offensive tackle. The athleticism
Speaker 5: is there for those two guys, and they could realistically
Speaker 5: be there at twenty one. Like you said, well see
Speaker 5: what happens in free agency and with potential retirements that
Speaker 5: that could make tackle like the need.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like you have to figure this out
Speaker 2: before you think about anything else.
Speaker 3: It feels like every team has multiple offensive line needs
Speaker 3: every single year at the stage of where we are
Speaker 3: in the NFL. But how about a guy that could
Speaker 3: potentially because I look at Armstead as a potential maybe
Speaker 3: one year solution if he comes back, and then maybe
Speaker 3: you have to replace that next year. So back in
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, the Dolphins took Leamy Tunzel, who wound up
Speaker 3: being kind of the foundation of our entire franchisees roster
Speaker 3: off the tray to the Houston Texans, but his first
Speaker 3: year he played left guard and then kicked out the
Speaker 3: left tackle. Is there a guy in this year's class
Speaker 3: that you think could be one of those players that
Speaker 3: is a tackle but plays guard initially?
Speaker 5: Yeah, both those guys I mentioned are that way. Mems
Speaker 5: and Geiton definitely are. Latham is more of like your
Speaker 5: right tackle, but could play guard for a year. I
Speaker 5: just don't see a way that he goes to the
Speaker 5: left side. He's just too big. Patrick Paul from Houston
Speaker 5: in the second round would be an interesting guy.
Speaker 2: Who really really good movement skills.
Speaker 5: Needs to work on his lower body strength, So like,
Speaker 5: could you put him at guard for a year and
Speaker 5: develop him and then kick him out.
Speaker 2: I definitely think you could do that with him.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that sounds good. There's so many guys that
Speaker 3: have is just good feet, so athletic in this class
Speaker 3: that can do that. Stuff, and speaking of good feet
Speaker 3: and athletic receiver where we talked about it, maybe not
Speaker 3: a big need for the Miami Dolphins, but I still
Speaker 3: contend that last year when Wadall and Tyreek went down,
Speaker 3: they needed someone else to be a separator inside, whether
Speaker 3: it's a tight end, a big presence inside, it can
Speaker 3: be a speed guy too. Who do you think would
Speaker 3: be a good mix either at twenty one or fifty
Speaker 3: five for Miami to kind of compliment the skills of
Speaker 3: Tyrek and Waddle.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: The very first mock draft I did this year, I
Speaker 5: put Xavier Worthy from Texas to the Dolphins, and people
Speaker 5: were like, what you lose in your mind? Tyreek's getting
Speaker 5: a little bit older and you need that third option.
Speaker 5: And this offense is so explosive, so fun to watch, Like,
Speaker 5: why wouldn't you just keep loading that that position? So
Speaker 5: I'm saying right, So I do love the idea there.
Speaker 5: Worthy absolutely fits this offense as a speed guy. I
Speaker 5: don't think we'll see brock Bauers on the board at
Speaker 5: twenty one, even though he is like the hardest player
Speaker 5: in the draft to slot in the tight end out
Speaker 5: of Georgia. It is such a deep wide receiver class
Speaker 5: that in round two we could be looking at guys
Speaker 5: like Malachi Corley from Western Kentucky Lad McConkie from Georgia.
Speaker 2: There's a potential that.
Speaker 5: Xavier Worthy because he's undersized, that like one hundred and
Speaker 5: seventy five pounds, could even be there in the second round.
Speaker 5: So we could fulfill our dream of having like the
Speaker 5: fastest football team ever if he's out there with those guys,
Speaker 5: I mean, h.
Speaker 3: And Wattle Tyreek just add more to it Man and
Speaker 3: DJ tol miss Week Dowandre am I that Malachai Corley
Speaker 3: thinks he is going to run a four to three
Speaker 3: in the fourth three range.
Speaker 5: That would be insane with his size and physicality. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I hope that happens. Jay, It's not wrong on that
Speaker 5: stuff often, so I hope that happens.
Speaker 3: He looks like a Dolphin and Niner, one of those
Speaker 3: Shannahan Tree type of offenses. He looks like an absolute
Speaker 3: fit with the yact that he has there. How About
Speaker 3: on the DEFENSI side of the ball, And I've not
Speaker 3: really gotten a lot of content on the defense during
Speaker 3: the combine because we just don't really know what it's
Speaker 3: gonna look like with a new defensive coordinator there. But
Speaker 3: I want to talk about the front seven of this
Speaker 3: of this year's class and what the Dolphins could potentially
Speaker 3: do there, because once again, if Christian Wilkins walks, there
Speaker 3: becomes a huge hole defensive tackle and that's actually where
Speaker 3: you have Dolphins going in the first round of your
Speaker 3: mock draft, which I assume is based on yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: what could happen there.
Speaker 4: But we've seen Anthony.
Speaker 3: We were get some tons of production out of guys
Speaker 3: up front, you know, with Javian Clowney last year, justin
Speaker 3: mattawek A. But he kind of has that crop in
Speaker 3: Miami with Chubb and Phillips off the edge seeler and
Speaker 3: maybe Wilkins inside. Yeah, just kind of go through the
Speaker 3: process of twenty one to fifty five detackle edge linebacker
Speaker 3: Dolphins potential fits.
Speaker 2: You think, yeah, it's a thin defensive tackle class.
Speaker 6: It really is.
Speaker 5: So Bira Murphy from Texas most likely would be off
Speaker 5: the board at twenty one. Then there is guys like
Speaker 5: Johnny Newton from Illinois who fit this defense very well.
Speaker 5: I think round two you might be reaching slightly for
Speaker 5: guys like Leonard Taylor from Miami Michael Hall from Ohio State,
Speaker 5: but they do fit that mold. I think edge rusher
Speaker 5: is very very interesting because especially the injuries to the guys,
Speaker 5: you know, when are they going to be back at
Speaker 5: one hundred percent. I think edge rusher at twenty one
Speaker 5: based on the medicals is something that could be really
Speaker 5: interesting to where like Leatu Latu, who's a lot like
Speaker 5: Jalen Phillips, could be there at twenty one. Maybe it's
Speaker 5: a little early for Darius Robinson from Missouri, but I
Speaker 5: mean he's he's made for this defense at six five
Speaker 5: two ninety because he can play inside or outside, linked speed,
Speaker 5: first step, quickness.
Speaker 2: Or all there.
Speaker 5: When we get into round two, I feel like it
Speaker 5: falls off a little bit with the edge rushers where
Speaker 5: you're starting to and we'll see what like if there's
Speaker 5: a run, Like if a guy like Chop Robinson goes
Speaker 5: first round, it's gonna start to thin out in round
Speaker 5: two where maybe you look at his teammate Adisa Isaac,
Speaker 5: you know you're but we could see enough of a
Speaker 5: run in the thirties to where by fifty four you're
Speaker 5: depleted at edge. Because it is so important and every
Speaker 5: team I've talked to this year feels like they can
Speaker 5: wait to get an edge player, and I think they're
Speaker 5: gonna find out that everyone's trying to do the same thing,
Speaker 5: and the first one is going to go off the
Speaker 5: board in the thirties. Then I think we'll see that
Speaker 5: massive run as people realize okay, wait here they come.
Speaker 4: That kind of sounds like maybe Andrevik Giggle might be
Speaker 4: more priorer than.
Speaker 3: We thought going into the draft if it's going to
Speaker 3: be that third, that position, because he was a really
Speaker 3: good third rusher for us this year, and you make
Speaker 3: the Phillips lawsuit comparison, it's freaky how similar they are,
Speaker 3: especially like the injury history is a similar as well,
Speaker 3: So it's a cool comp third with the with their
Speaker 3: skills and also their backgrounds. I always love to ask
Speaker 3: the experts here, you know, if you're in a war
Speaker 3: room on draft day, who are a couple of guys
Speaker 3: late in the draft some sleepers that you would stand
Speaker 3: on the table for, and really just in pald heal
Speaker 3: for them, not dolphins fits, just in general.
Speaker 4: Who do you love?
Speaker 5: I met Cody Schrader, the running back from Missouri. His
Speaker 5: story is amazing to me. You know, walk on at
Speaker 5: a small school in Missouri, then gets to Miszoo and
Speaker 5: leads the SEC and rushing this past year. So you
Speaker 5: know he's he's going to be like a rotational running back.
Speaker 5: But he's someone i'd you know, just love watching him play.
Speaker 5: Junior Colson won't be a late round pick, but it
Speaker 5: like just my favorite football players in the draft. Junior
Speaker 5: Colson's up there, Jahem Bell, who is a little bit
Speaker 5: of a throwback like full.
Speaker 2: Back, tight end, h back in South Carolina.
Speaker 5: Those are the where you know, we talk about like
Speaker 5: we we always have our guys and that's a list
Speaker 5: all work on when we get home from here.
Speaker 2: Of but maybe they're not.
Speaker 5: Gonna be the first guy drafted at their position, maybe
Speaker 5: they're not even a top one hundred pick, but people
Speaker 5: you just believe in and will want on your team
Speaker 5: like those, those three are on my list.
Speaker 3: Watching both the senable, I think I put like Dolphin
Speaker 3: next to him, Charles Clay maybe potentially down the road.
Speaker 4: So last question here for you, Matt Mark Draft ESPN.
Speaker 3: You have two picture for the Dolphins, Giant Newton like
Speaker 3: you mentioned Illinois and Cooper Bebe in the second round.
Speaker 3: Can you go aha and tell us about those guys
Speaker 3: you talked about new a little bit of tills about it.
Speaker 5: Yet Newton is something that can play inside outside. He
Speaker 5: was He played all over for the Illinois defense and
Speaker 5: he is relentless. The athleticism is there, but it's the
Speaker 5: motor that you fall in love with because he's consistently
Speaker 5: running down everyone and can be disruptive, especially as a
Speaker 5: penetrator in gaps, but brings you that versatility. Cooper Bbe
Speaker 5: is really interesting because, as you mentioned, the interior of
Speaker 5: that offensive line could be depleted with free agency. Bibe
Speaker 5: is a plug and play starter at either guard spot.
Speaker 5: He has the mobility that you need to run this offense,
Speaker 5: but he's enough of a finisher at the second level
Speaker 5: where he's still under control. But he plays with that
Speaker 5: mean streak that I think you want, especially as somebody
Speaker 5: opening up this run game. You have to have, you know,
Speaker 5: the agility to run the zone scheme.
Speaker 2: He has all that. I mean, it's heavily accomplished coming
Speaker 2: out of k State.
Speaker 4: Very good stuff.
Speaker 3: Matt Miller, NFL draft analyst and insider for ESPN at
Speaker 3: NFL Draft Scout, I mentioned this to you off the air.
Speaker 4: You had to be the first person on line to
Speaker 4: get that.
Speaker 5: Had to be right. It was two thousand and eight.
Speaker 5: I remember signing up for Twitter and thinking, what do
Speaker 5: I want? What are people coming to this account for?
Speaker 1: That was it?
Speaker 2: So it worked.
Speaker 4: Appreciate you man, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3: The way he goes and you know, I'm very big
Speaker 3: on hospitality and just general politeness, and I always joke
Speaker 3: that since I moved from a small town in the
Speaker 3: Pacific northwest to South Florida and the East Coast, that
Speaker 3: I've kind of had a rude introduction into the cold
Speaker 3: shoulder that is, no please and thank you, no response
Speaker 3: when you say words to human beings. So anytime you
Speaker 3: meet someone new and they're very kind and cordial, that
Speaker 3: I always kind of goes a long way with me.
Speaker 3: And Matt Miller was definitely that good stuff there with
Speaker 3: the content as well. Let's go ahead and take our
Speaker 3: first break. Comeback on the other side. I want to
Speaker 3: go ahead and preview some dang football workouts. That's next
Speaker 3: on the Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wakefield.
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Speaker 3: So why don't we actually talk about what's going to
Speaker 3: happen out here Indianapolis. The most important part of the week.
Speaker 3: The actual on field workouts is that the most important part.
Speaker 3: I tend to think it's more about the meeting with
Speaker 3: the players and the fact that every GM and every
Speaker 3: coach for the most part, is out here and can
Speaker 3: entertain potential free agent contract talks, potential trade talks, and
Speaker 3: really just a general meeting place for all the biggest
Speaker 3: minds in the National Football League. But I do want
Speaker 3: to go ahead and spend some time on the show
Speaker 3: talking about some players that figure to have great workouts
Speaker 3: and to improve their stock a little bit in this
Speaker 3: year's draft. And going off of this, I choose to
Speaker 3: use the Freaks list from Bruce Feldman at The Athletic,
Speaker 3: who posts a annual story in the summer ahead of
Speaker 3: the college football season taking a look at I think
Speaker 3: he has seventy on this year's list, players who figure
Speaker 3: to test very well in Indianapolis at the Combine, and
Speaker 3: players to figure to have draft stock heading into their
Speaker 3: it's not even their final years.
Speaker 4: Sometimes there's freshmen on the list as well.
Speaker 3: So I want to go ahead and preview some of
Speaker 3: these guys that Bruce Felman listed as potential workout warriors,
Speaker 3: and then why don't we go ahead and get Kyle
Speaker 3: Krabs on the podcast as well to have us have
Speaker 3: him walk us through some players that he thinks will
Speaker 3: improve their stock with of course a view through a
Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins Lennons. So the first name on my list,
Speaker 3: and I wrote this down last week. So it's a
Speaker 3: little bit outdated already, because Marvin Harrison Junior decided to
Speaker 3: skip the combine altogether, not just the workouts.
Speaker 4: He ain't even coming out. Why is that?
Speaker 3: Because he believes that training for football will serve him
Speaker 3: the best opportunity to produce as a rookie. And quite frankly,
Speaker 3: again talking against my own interest here on the podcast,
Speaker 3: I tend to agree with him. I think it's smart
Speaker 3: because the only time these guys will ever train for
Speaker 3: a forty yard dash or for track type of athletic
Speaker 3: movements in general is for this pre draft testing period,
Speaker 3: right the Combine, their pro days, And what good does
Speaker 3: it do you?
Speaker 4: I mean to throw a four to two up there.
Speaker 3: We talked to We talked with Dan Jeremiah on the
Speaker 3: Tuesday podcast and he said that Malachi Corley's gonna run
Speaker 3: a four to three. I had Corali in the four
Speaker 3: to five range. If Corley runs a four to three,
Speaker 3: that guy's skill set to me is first round potential.
Speaker 3: He won't go that high, but that's how I feel
Speaker 3: about him. So it is valuable for the players in
Speaker 3: that sense. But still, and Jeremiah talks about this as well,
Speaker 3: a lot of these guys have GPS tracking that takes them.
Speaker 3: Essentially the numbers you would get from the combine are
Speaker 3: applicable with their college tape, which is what you go
Speaker 3: off of in them for the majority of your takes anyways. Right,
Speaker 3: So that's kind of this Marvin Harrison aspect because I'm
Speaker 3: reading that he did bench three hundred and eighty pounds
Speaker 3: and did twenty reps at two twenty five and squad
Speaker 3: at five hundred pounds. That is an exceptional, exceptional athlete.
Speaker 3: And on that topic, that's kind of what you're looking
Speaker 3: for from Miami Dolphins. Right when you watch the combine,
Speaker 3: I want you to watch a couple of statistics, and
Speaker 3: it's not the forty yard dish.
Speaker 4: It is the ten split of the forty yard desh.
Speaker 3: You guys might recall last year Ryan Hayes, Elijah Higgins,
Speaker 3: Cam Smith, and Devon ah Chan all had lightning quick
Speaker 3: ten splits.
Speaker 4: How do you fire off the football?
Speaker 3: That's our philosophy in South Florida, right, we want to
Speaker 3: get off the football before you and beat you to
Speaker 3: the spot and beat you with speed and athletic ability.
Speaker 4: So keep an eye on that statistic.
Speaker 3: Also, broad and vertical jumps are a pretty good measure
Speaker 3: of a player's explosiveness, their start, stop, their acceleration, and
Speaker 3: I guess there's some elements of long speed in that
Speaker 3: as well. So those are some stats to look at
Speaker 3: when you watch the workouts this weekend here in Indianapolis.
Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and move off a list. Here we
Speaker 3: go from an Ohio State player and Marvin Harrison junior
Speaker 3: to Chris Jenkins, the defensive tackle of Michigan, who did
Speaker 3: thirty two reps of two twenty five in the bench
Speaker 3: and did a seven hundred and sixty pound combo twist.
Speaker 3: What is that?
Speaker 6: Do you know?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 4: Does JT?
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is?
Speaker 4: What's a combo twist? No, he doesn't know, No one knows,
Speaker 4: but it sounds cool.
Speaker 3: It's also he's also thirty pound heavier than last year's
Speaker 3: freak from Michigan Mazi Smith. So Chris Jenkins has put
Speaker 3: on a lot of weight on. If you guys remember
Speaker 3: that name Chris Jenkins from the Carolina Panthers days, Yes,
Speaker 3: we are getting old. That's the son of Chris Jenkins.
Speaker 3: So Martin Harrison juniort Chris Jenkins junior. How about a
Speaker 3: linebacker from Alabama Chris Braswell, if you guys watched the
Speaker 3: Senior Bowl, he was in that game and was dominant
Speaker 3: in the one on one drills and the team portions
Speaker 3: as well. He got after it during that whole thing.
Speaker 3: Thirty eight and a half inch vertical squad, seven hundred
Speaker 3: and five pounds. A guy that to look for if
Speaker 3: the Dolphins are to look at the edge position, he
Speaker 3: could be a guy that improves.
Speaker 4: His stock and maybe he gets on the Dolphins board.
Speaker 3: Here like defensive end Chop Robinson from Penn State, a
Speaker 3: six foot three, two hundred and fifty pound junior who
Speaker 3: was a little bit bigger than Mikael Parsons his final year.
Speaker 3: Also had a broad up of ten to seven and
Speaker 3: bench press four hundred pounds with a four to four
Speaker 3: seven forty.
Speaker 4: I mean, this guy makes all kinds of plays.
Speaker 3: Smart player, and that athletic testing is going to have
Speaker 3: his name rise up the board in the first round,
Speaker 3: and I would not be surprised if he's there at
Speaker 3: twenty one.
Speaker 4: If he's an option for you.
Speaker 3: We talked about it with the layout two lot to
Speaker 3: draft projection that I gave him earlier a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 3: If there's a great edge there because of the premium
Speaker 3: position that it is, like, don't hesitate take that spot,
Speaker 3: get yourself more pass rushers and give yourself a cheap production,
Speaker 3: productive player at a very premium position. It always works
Speaker 3: out if you do that, if they're good players. Some
Speaker 3: more names in the list here Cooper Degene from Iowa,
Speaker 3: and you guys probably know him. He's what was it
Speaker 3: the White versus Black Olympics that Antonio Brown was suggesting?
Speaker 2: Who was?
Speaker 4: I forget who was?
Speaker 3: But Cooper Degen is basically the lone man on the
Speaker 3: totem pole of cornerbacks because he's a white dude and
Speaker 3: he flies.
Speaker 4: He had a ten split of.
Speaker 2: Point nine two.
Speaker 4: Is that even possible?
Speaker 3: They think you could break four to three at two
Speaker 3: hundred and ten pounds this year? Keeping on him in
Speaker 3: his forty yard dash here at the combine. Trevin Wallace,
Speaker 3: a Kentucky linebacker is a guy on the list here
Speaker 3: as well, at twenty two miles an hour in the
Speaker 3: GPS and squat's almost six hundred pounds. LSU defensive tackle
Speaker 3: Mason Smith as a six foot six, three hundred and
Speaker 3: fifteen pounder who clocked nineteen point five miles per hour.
Speaker 3: That's a possible name you could look at as a
Speaker 3: potential replacement if you do lose Christian Wilkins. Like Byer
Speaker 3: Murphy from Texas who's been clocked to eighteen miles. Prower
Speaker 3: has a four hundred and fifty five pound front squat
Speaker 3: and power clean at three hundred and seventy five pounds.
Speaker 3: He is an absolute monster and has the tape to
Speaker 3: match into Senior Bowl in his game tape as well.
Speaker 3: Byron Murphy a Texas a potential name there at pick
Speaker 3: twenty one for your Miami Dolphins. I got lots of
Speaker 3: names here for you guys. Jared Verrch, you guys probably
Speaker 3: know him from Florida State, six foot three and a half,
Speaker 3: two hundred and sixty pounds, twenty one miles per hour
Speaker 3: on the GPS.
Speaker 4: That's why you don't want need the forty yardashes. You
Speaker 4: kind of already have it.
Speaker 3: He squats five fifty five benches four to fifty five.
Speaker 3: Just an absolute monster. Like offensive tackle Oli Fashanu from
Speaker 3: Penn State, who's not going to be on the board
Speaker 3: of the Dolphins pick, but he's also on this list
Speaker 3: for a four to nine to seven, four to six
Speaker 3: to three shuttle and four hundred and five pounds squats
Speaker 3: with a bench press I should say, six hundred pound squad,
Speaker 3: three hundred fift pound power clean.
Speaker 4: What a monster.
Speaker 3: UCLA has a speedback that might be of interest of
Speaker 3: your Miami Dolphins if he's on the board late in
Speaker 3: this draft. Carson Steele six foot one, two hundred and
Speaker 3: thirty three pounds. He has amazing workout tricks across the board,
Speaker 3: four hundred and fifty pound bench, six eighty five squad,
Speaker 3: a twenty one mile per hour time speed this year
Speaker 3: with a vertical of thirty five inches. Those are the
Speaker 3: kind of backs that might get your fancy in the
Speaker 3: late part of the draft. How about linebacker Peyton Wilson
Speaker 3: from NC State I've talked about on the podcast, kind
Speaker 3: of has some Keiko Alonso to his game. If you're
Speaker 3: talking about a Dolphins comp there a four four ninety
Speaker 3: four to two to one in his pro agility shuttle,
Speaker 3: which is essentially his workout in college before before the season,
Speaker 3: ahead of the year. You might go to the combine
Speaker 3: also bench three ninety thirty five and a half inch
Speaker 3: vertical and a nine to eight and a half broad
Speaker 3: What a stud that he is a couple of defensive
Speaker 3: backs for you guys here, Tyler Owens from Texas Tech
Speaker 3: is six two to two oh five twenty three mile
Speaker 3: an hour clock in speed this year or in in
Speaker 3: game clock speed this year with a forty inch vertical.
Speaker 4: Might be keeping eye on dbach with the Dolphins, Cam
Speaker 4: Hart nore Dame.
Speaker 3: Similar story there at twenty one point seven miles per
Speaker 3: hour clock GPS time there he can flat out fly.
Speaker 3: And a guy that might fit with the Dolphins want
Speaker 3: to do under Anthony Weaver. How about some skill spots.
Speaker 3: Malik Neighbors a vertical jump of almost forty inches, and
Speaker 3: you guys know about Neighbors. He's not gonna be on
Speaker 3: the board of the Dolphins pick, but he is juice
Speaker 3: on top of juice on top of juice. Wisconsin running
Speaker 3: back Braylan Allen is an interesting kind of juxtaposition to
Speaker 3: Devon Ah Channon Raheem moster more in that Chris Brooks
Speaker 3: category four h six pounds power clean and a one
Speaker 3: four to nine ten split, So there's your explosiveness. He
Speaker 3: also benched three to sixty five and just as an
Speaker 3: absolute monster. There's plenty more names on this list. Quinian Mitchell,
Speaker 3: the Toledo cornerback if the Dolphins go in the defensive backfield,
Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty five pounds. He benched that twenty
Speaker 3: one times this year. He weighs two ten also ran
Speaker 3: in the four to threes twice this past spring, and
Speaker 3: has a twenty three and a half mile an hour
Speaker 3: top speed. He is an oppressive, impressive athlete. You guys
Speaker 3: know about Brock Bauers. He is a ten to two
Speaker 3: broad jump thirty six inch vertical would be tied for
Speaker 3: the fourth most among tight ends last year at the
Speaker 3: combine that forty times, somewhere in the four or five range.
Speaker 3: Probably not gonna be the boor of the Dolphins pick,
Speaker 3: but he's an interesting name. I also put Sion Vaki,
Speaker 3: the Utah safety who I love his game. He is
Speaker 3: already benching four hundred pounds, squats five twenty and has
Speaker 3: a vertical jump with thirty nine inches ten foot five
Speaker 3: and a half in the broad jump. And then I
Speaker 3: put my two guys in here, Rowan Wilson and Malachai Corley,
Speaker 3: who both made the Freaks List this past year. Here's
Speaker 3: a Roman Wilson's line here, a former fastest man at
Speaker 3: the opening as a high school recruit, having clocked four
Speaker 3: to three seven forty and at six foot one ninety
Speaker 3: three pounds senior, he wows coaches with his ability to accelerate,
Speaker 3: decelerate and control his body. This offseason, Wilson clocked a
Speaker 3: four to three to three forty out of a two
Speaker 3: point stance and ran a sizzling six foot point two
Speaker 3: to three cone drill that was only upstage by teammate
Speaker 3: Amari and Walker. I mean three seven seven shuttle, had
Speaker 3: terrific ten point seven six sixty yard shuttle and flew
Speaker 3: up the Wolverines reactive plio stairs in two point two seconds.
Speaker 4: What does that mean? I don't know, but it sounds
Speaker 4: like he's a hell of an athlete. We know how
Speaker 4: he works.
Speaker 3: Then Malachai Corley led the country and yards after catch
Speaker 3: with nine hundred and seventy five and missed tackles forced
Speaker 3: with forty sounds like a dolphin, doesn't he He's two
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty five foot eleven frame, looking more like
Speaker 3: a running back of the new typical receiver. He's hit
Speaker 3: twenty three miles per hour on the GPS and clocked
Speaker 3: four four three forty yard dashes. You heard Jeremia say
Speaker 3: he my clip four three's that would be very, very impressive.
Speaker 3: We gets to that range four eight shuttle and three
Speaker 3: ft five bench. That's a very nice combination as far
Speaker 3: as an athlete goes there. So there's some interesting workouts
Speaker 3: to keep an eye on there. We'll cover more of
Speaker 3: this with Kyle Krabs and some other just general draft talk,
Speaker 3: but I want to get that out there for you
Speaker 3: guys before the combine starts here on the podcast. Let's
Speaker 3: go ahead and pivot now to my final guest here
Speaker 3: on this day. I welcome to him, the great EJ.
Speaker 3: Snyer from the Bootleg Football Podcast. He'll come back after
Speaker 3: the break with us and talk about some combine trends,
Speaker 3: some combine storylines, and of course the Miami Dolphins. That's
Speaker 3: the next Draft Time podcast, your host, Travis Wingfield, brought
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 4: By Auto Nation.
Speaker 3: Joining me today from the floor at the Indiana Convention
Speaker 3: Center here Indianapolis is the great EJ Stneyder from the
Speaker 3: Bootleg Football podcast.
Speaker 4: EJ finally made it happen to me. How you doing, man?
Speaker 6: Fantastic We get to meet in person for the first time,
Speaker 6: which a lot of your listeners will probably be surprised
Speaker 6: by because we've done this several times now.
Speaker 2: And you know you used to live right by me
Speaker 2: before you move down to Florida.
Speaker 6: Take this gig, but it's great to put names of faces,
Speaker 6: handshakes on, you know, previously profile photos and get it
Speaker 6: all done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys almost almost forced a move back from
Speaker 3: the wingfields when you showed me that studio up in
Speaker 3: Where is that at you guys shoot those from the
Speaker 3: divisional previews?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Well, that actually is Brett's place in La No. No,
Speaker 3: we just did an airbnb Okay, Yeah, that studio was amazing, man.
Speaker 6: Yeah, beautiful. It worked out really nicely. We're hoping to
Speaker 6: do that again this year. But it definitely added something.
Speaker 6: And Brett had never been to the Pacific Northwest in
Speaker 6: the summer and now he wants to live the Okay,
Speaker 6: I get it. Yeah, it's pretty much. It's summer in
Speaker 6: Seattle is like February in South Florida. It's perfect every
Speaker 6: single day. You cannot beat up. But you guys aren't
Speaker 6: here for weather talk. You're here for some draft talk.
Speaker 3: And they just published a new episode on the Bootleg
Speaker 3: Football podcast taking a preview, or I should say, a
Speaker 3: look at the combine, previewing this week's work from the
Speaker 3: players and also what happens here, which is and I
Speaker 3: saw Bretts sweet this morning about how this is my
Speaker 3: first combine and this is not what I thought it
Speaker 3: was at all. Yes, Brett, there are lots of late nights,
Speaker 3: there are lots of drinks consumed, there are lots of
Speaker 3: conversations about things that go on, but that's not.
Speaker 2: Really the mode that we are in.
Speaker 3: I want to hear from your perspective on what you
Speaker 3: expect to see during these workouts this week, because it
Speaker 3: seems EJ like every year they get faster, they get bigger,
Speaker 3: they get stronger, they get more impressive, don't they.
Speaker 6: They absolutely do every year. Athletic training is an entire industry.
Speaker 6: I think a lot of people might not be familiar
Speaker 6: with how organized that is and how involved agents are
Speaker 6: and that is just part of the package. When you're
Speaker 6: in the pre draft cycle, right, you get sign with
Speaker 6: an agent, they have a.
Speaker 2: Training house that they work with.
Speaker 6: You usually ship off and go live there for six weeks,
Speaker 6: do diet, do all kinds of stretching, and it's purely
Speaker 6: to train to get ready for this event.
Speaker 2: And that is a major piece of this.
Speaker 6: And you know, I think the biggest story probably is
Speaker 6: the folks that aren't doing it this year, that are
Speaker 6: sort of bucking the trend. Marvin Harrison junior, you know,
Speaker 6: very important, certainly said I'm not gonna switch up what
Speaker 6: I'm doing training to play football to train to run
Speaker 6: a forty. And a lot of people do that, and
Speaker 6: it's very difficult on a body. You end a college season.
Speaker 6: You have in some cases, I mean the Texas and
Speaker 6: Washington guys opted out of the Senior and Trine because
Speaker 6: they were it was ten days removed from their last game.
Speaker 2: Crazy they need some rest.
Speaker 6: But all those other players are again moving across the
Speaker 6: country learn how to run forties. Maybe if you're alignment,
Speaker 6: you've never done that, if you're not a track guy.
Speaker 6: And then as soon as you're done with that and
Speaker 6: you get drafted, you got to switch back and turn
Speaker 6: yourself back into a football player. So it's fascinating to
Speaker 6: see those trends. But yes, bigger, faster, Absolutely, we're gonna
Speaker 6: see probably the record broken for guys over three hundred
Speaker 6: running under five second forties because that happens every year.
Speaker 6: Kingsley Suamataia the tackle from byu A noted. You know,
Speaker 6: Felden Freak's list candidate for the last couple of years.
Speaker 6: He's been a solid four to nine guy for a
Speaker 6: couple of years, and there are many whispers that he
Speaker 6: might break four to eight something at three hundred and whatever.
Speaker 2: He is fifteen pounds, so.
Speaker 4: That's not human.
Speaker 2: It's intense.
Speaker 3: I mean, do you feel like that could be like
Speaker 3: kind of the beginning of the end of the scouting combine,
Speaker 3: because like Marvin Harrison making that move, they have all
Speaker 3: this stuff in like GPS tracking right, like the pads
Speaker 3: are all gps'd out, Like it sounds like that's almost
Speaker 3: the beginning of the end of the combine.
Speaker 2: You know, people have.
Speaker 6: Said that, and I think it's a beginning of the change,
Speaker 6: like a significant change in the combine. Because we have
Speaker 6: to remember that Marvin Harrison Junior is an elite prospect
Speaker 6: for those not familiar with them. Yes, the son of
Speaker 6: the great Marvin Harrison Jr. Or Marvin Harrison Senior, the
Speaker 6: Hall of Famer, you know, great blood Lions, has had
Speaker 6: a tremendous college career, has elevated himself to the top
Speaker 6: of the wide receiver rankings pretty much. I haven't seen
Speaker 6: anybody not have him there. So he's in a unique position.
Speaker 6: He can say I'm gonna do what I want. I
Speaker 6: know where I'm going anyways, I really don't have the
Speaker 6: ability to increase my stock, but I could hurt myself,
Speaker 6: so I'm not going to most players what they're almost
Speaker 6: three hundred players here don't have that luxury, and they
Speaker 6: are trying to show something that they're faster, that they're stronger,
Speaker 6: that they are you know, get a look in front
Speaker 6: of scouts in terms of the motion or movement drills.
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior doesn't need any of those.
Speaker 6: The majority of guys here, ninety five percent of them
Speaker 6: do need that, do want that. They absolutely want these
Speaker 6: press sessions that you guys are recording in terms of
Speaker 6: being able to talk about their experience and what they're
Speaker 6: looking forward to in the league. It is a huge
Speaker 6: opportunity for all those guys. It's the COMBA is not
Speaker 6: going away anytime soon. Good, but it will probably change
Speaker 6: because I.
Speaker 4: Love my weekend India. I gotta have it every single year.
Speaker 3: Man. It reminds me that Dion SANDERSO, Hey, where y'all
Speaker 3: pick number eight. I'm not gonna be there. I'm not
Speaker 3: making up the phone on you right now. I'm not
Speaker 3: going that far anyway. So do you go ahead and
Speaker 3: save your your pre draft meeting with mixed It ain't
Speaker 3: gonna happen anyways. But yeah, it's interesting, and that's it's
Speaker 3: kind of like it almost coincides with the Senior Bowl
Speaker 3: getting more and more talent every year, it seems like,
Speaker 3: so it kind of could be a good balance. They're like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go show my stuff in a game situation
Speaker 3: and practice situations and I'll take off the combine where
Speaker 3: they measure you there as well.
Speaker 4: So it's like a good mix there of kind of
Speaker 4: balancing how this class shakes out.
Speaker 3: Let's pivot Miami Dolphins focus here because it is the
Speaker 3: Draft Time podcast. On the Miami Dolphins Podcast, I work
Speaker 3: my guest today's e J Steer from the botleg Football Podcast.
Speaker 4: I'm curious what you think.
Speaker 3: We're back in the first round for the first time
Speaker 3: in two years without a first round pick, so the
Speaker 3: first time in three years. I guess's how you'd say that.
Speaker 3: What do you think man pick twenty one? There's some
Speaker 3: options there. Offensive line is kind of up in the
Speaker 3: air right now in terms of free agency. All of
Speaker 3: our guys for the most part, are are on the
Speaker 3: market right are going to be on the market come
Speaker 3: to the new league year. The offense kind of bogged
Speaker 3: down late in the year. New defensive cordator Anthony Weaver.
Speaker 3: Who in that position?
Speaker 6: Do you kind of like for Miami's frame of mind
Speaker 6: a little bit? The world's their oyster, and that's not
Speaker 6: a bad thing. A lot of times people think, when
Speaker 6: you're in the twenties, oh all these all the talent's
Speaker 6: going to go off the board. Look, there are very
Speaker 6: many talented players in this draft, and especially offensive linemen
Speaker 6: inside and outside. So tackle you need very talented tackle class,
Speaker 6: the intier offensive line class. I think a bunch of
Speaker 6: people kind of keeped on it and said it's not
Speaker 6: the greatest. Early on in the process, I was among those.
Speaker 6: I thought, there's probably not a lot of depth that's center.
Speaker 6: The more I got into this class and the more
Speaker 6: I did my study on my top say one hundred
Speaker 6: and fifty ish guys, there's there's a lot more talent
Speaker 6: there at both spots. So if you are in the
Speaker 6: need for offensive line inside or outside, it's a nice spot.
Speaker 6: You are not going to be, you know, bereft of
Speaker 6: options in the twenties for either side. And then like
Speaker 6: you said, with Weaver coming in, you know, releasing Davin
Speaker 6: like you could use a cornerback. It's a good cornerback draft.
Speaker 6: I don't think there's as many guys up high. There's
Speaker 6: a few, but then those sort of middle rounds like
Speaker 6: two to four, so a bunch of guys that can
Speaker 6: play outside, that have size, that have speed. There's probably
Speaker 6: more size in this cornerback class than we've seen in
Speaker 6: a very long time in terms of you remember three
Speaker 6: four years ago, if there was a guy then I said, oh,
Speaker 6: it's the six three corner.
Speaker 2: You go, oh, I know, the one now street corner.
Speaker 6: Ago you go, is this six to four guy, the
Speaker 6: three six three guys or the eight guys that are
Speaker 6: six two or less.
Speaker 2: So a lot of guys out there with a lot
Speaker 2: of size, so a lot of options.
Speaker 3: For you big foun of the slot cornerbacks too, I
Speaker 3: mean Wsu Guy Shawsmith Way.
Speaker 4: I love his game.
Speaker 3: The Michigan kid, Sandra Still, He's an absolute playmaker. Who's
Speaker 3: the Missouri kid that was in this at the Senior Bowl?
Speaker 3: I forget it's the Rakestraw No, no crusade straight yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah yeah. He was nice to watch as well. So
Speaker 3: there's all kinds of options in the defensive backfield. I'm
Speaker 3: really curious to see what coach Weaver does because he
Speaker 3: already has two chess pieces back there in Jalen Ramsey
Speaker 3: and Javon holl and he's going to add to that,
Speaker 3: I'm sure at some point this offseason. But I want
Speaker 3: to go back something you mentioned on the offensive line there,
Speaker 3: because you talked about there's kind of a flavor for
Speaker 3: everybody Dolphins in the past.
Speaker 4: We'll see what happens this.
Speaker 3: Year because McDaniel believes an evolution and always growing your offense.
Speaker 3: But in the past they've been very heavy on guys
Speaker 3: that show well on the ten split, guys that can
Speaker 3: get off the football and get you in that wide zone.
Speaker 3: Look get off line scrimmage and get your butt out
Speaker 3: there right go block a defensive back off the edge.
Speaker 3: There's some guys in this year's class that you think
Speaker 3: might pop in that category. The ten split on the
Speaker 3: forty yard dashes. I know it's a very niche question.
Speaker 3: That's why I go to you, though it's.
Speaker 6: Actually not, and it is the measurement that you're looking
Speaker 6: for for offensive lineman because the reality of offensive lineman
Speaker 6: running forty yards in a game, they all joke that
Speaker 6: they have to do it once and it's here and
Speaker 6: they never do it again. Now that's not exactly true,
Speaker 6: but it's close at what they really do for their
Speaker 6: day to day bread and butter is fire off the ball.
Speaker 6: And so you want us see that explosion for again,
Speaker 6: a three hundred pound guy accelerating that mass over the
Speaker 6: first few yards where he's gonna find contact. And there
Speaker 6: are gonna be guys in this year's draft especially who
Speaker 6: are extremely explosive in the short area. We saw Jackson
Speaker 6: Powers Johnson, the true junior center from Oregon who got
Speaker 6: an opportunity to play because of an injury. He took
Speaker 6: that job by the raid and never gave it back.
Speaker 6: He is massive, he's three hundred and I think he
Speaker 6: weighed like twenty three pounds and three thirty fourth. It's
Speaker 6: a huge guy for center. You don't normally see that
Speaker 6: much size at center, but he a lot of people think, oh,
Speaker 6: he's a hulk and he can just anchor. No, his
Speaker 6: tape is full of examples of him getting outside wide zone.
Speaker 2: Stop me if you've heard this one being a Dolphins
Speaker 2: guy right and just.
Speaker 6: Demolishing corners and safeties on the edge and he loves it.
Speaker 6: He's like nineteen twenty years old. He's very young, extremely
Speaker 6: capable athletically, and you know, is he gonna last that long?
Speaker 6: Is probably the only question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been a hot name on this show this
Speaker 3: week at this table right here, because everyone talks about him.
Speaker 3: It seems like every fan base kind of wants a
Speaker 3: piece of JPG. At this point, let's go ahead and
Speaker 3: finish up here at the skill positions. Because you asked
Speaker 3: me yesterday what do you think the Dolphins' biggest needs are?
Speaker 3: And I said, I don't know about I don't know,
Speaker 3: Like it's kind of hard to determine because I just
Speaker 3: had Kyle Krabs do our show. That's gonna come out,
Speaker 3: I think on Friday, and he was talking about, you
Speaker 3: know how the Dolphins are kind of in this range
Speaker 3: of you know, that's an area you could explore in
Speaker 3: the draft or free agency, and I'm like, I think
Speaker 3: it's an area that they have to address because not
Speaker 3: just the way that Waddle and Tyrker used and it's
Speaker 3: a lot of substitution that coming in out, but if
Speaker 3: one of them gets dinged up, we really saw the
Speaker 3: impact of that last year, and so I think that
Speaker 3: the ability to get a third separat or a third
Speaker 3: pass catcher might be a big value to the Dolphins offense.
Speaker 3: Whether it's tight end receiver, who do you like in
Speaker 3: those first two rounds, whether it's pick twenty one, pick
Speaker 3: fifty three, maybe a trade back in that range who
Speaker 3: kind of fits in that mold for a skill player
Speaker 3: that can help this offense go even higher to nother level.
Speaker 6: No, I would agree with you, And I think it's
Speaker 6: a shift in the league that we've seen with wide receiver.
Speaker 6: I think back to like Ron Wolf when he was
Speaker 6: running the Green Bay Packers and he said I'm gonna
Speaker 6: pick a quarterback every year. I think that shifted and
Speaker 6: I think it's I'm gonna pick a wide receiver every
Speaker 6: year because you could look at almost any team in
Speaker 6: the NFL and none of them are like, oh, we're good.
Speaker 6: There might be two teams in the NFL that are like, no,
Speaker 6: we're three deep, We're fine. So in terms of guys
Speaker 6: that are really explosive, there's a lot of options, very
Speaker 6: deep wide receiver class. A guy like Jamari Thrash out
Speaker 6: of Louisville is very explosive. He's a yack threat. I
Speaker 6: really like Malik Washington. He's gonna be a little bit
Speaker 6: farther down the board. I don't think he should be,
Speaker 6: but he's out of the University of Virginia. I think
Speaker 6: McDaniel will look at his tape and go, oh, give
Speaker 6: me some of that. So they could again wait even
Speaker 6: longer than those first two rounds and pick up a
Speaker 6: pick farther back.
Speaker 2: And there's so much depth in this wide receiver class
Speaker 2: that you can find it.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 6: If you want the big explosive alphas outside, you're gonna
Speaker 6: have to pay a premium for those or get a
Speaker 6: more developmental guy. But guys from the slot, a lot
Speaker 6: of people are gonna be talking about Roman Wilson out
Speaker 6: of Michigan. He's going to test out of his mind
Speaker 6: this week, and that's just going to push me even
Speaker 6: higher into that conversation. There's a lot of options, So
Speaker 6: if you kind of have your heart set on one
Speaker 6: and they get picked, this is not the year that
Speaker 6: you kind of have to have your stomach fall out
Speaker 6: and panic. You've got plenty of other options coming down
Speaker 6: the pipe.
Speaker 3: I promise that EJ was not prep for this podcast
Speaker 3: because Jackson Powers Johnson and Roman Wilson ap probably the
Speaker 3: two most mentioned prospects by your boy on this show.
Speaker 4: I love those players. I love their skill sets. EJ.
Speaker 3: Bootleg Football Podcast. What's coming up on the con for
Speaker 3: you guys' content this week? Tell the folks where they
Speaker 3: can find you.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So for draft season, it's a pot a week.
Speaker 6: We put out the pod earlier and then one of
Speaker 6: the interviews that we recorded at Trin Bowl. So we'll
Speaker 6: have our first interview later this week, and that'll be
Speaker 6: two pieces a week every week up until the Combine
Speaker 6: or sorry, up until the Draft. We've got a great
Speaker 6: slot of guests. It's really what I'm doing here this
Speaker 6: week is lining up everybody. Jordan Reed will be back,
Speaker 6: Matt Bohene will be back, We're gonna have some special
Speaker 6: guests that have not been on the podcast before, some
Speaker 6: folks you've talked to recently. So we're really excited about
Speaker 6: the slate and it just rolls until we are until
Speaker 6: late April. And guys, you're going to new teams.
Speaker 3: Yeah, make sure you find them at the Bootleg Football Podcast.
Speaker 3: He and Brett Colman do a great job all year round.
Speaker 3: It's some of the bestootball content you guys can find
Speaker 3: out there. Eja, appreciate your time today, man, and enjoy
Speaker 3: the rest of your weekend.
Speaker 2: India. Hey, thanks for having me. Always a great time anytime, man, and.
Speaker 3: Away he goes, and away we go on this edition
Speaker 3: of the Draft Time Podcast tomorrow. I'm very excited for
Speaker 3: this episode with Kyle Craps. We took a look at
Speaker 3: his free agent board, what the combine could do for
Speaker 3: the Dolphins draft prospects, and just how they're going to
Speaker 3: build this dang thing in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4: That's tomorrow.
Speaker 3: We'll also come back on Monday recap the workouts and
Speaker 3: just kind of get into what might happen in a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks here in the new league year for
Speaker 3: your Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 4: All that ahead, but for today, I'm going to go
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