1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Welcome in his verdict with Center, Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: with You and Center. There are two big stories and 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: they are just on total opposite ends of the spectrum 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: and how the media is covering it. One of them 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: deals with a anti capitalist climate activist who's become some 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: sort of hero to the left who has now been 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: charged with murdering the healthcare CEO. And the other story 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: deals with Daniel Penny, who was found not guilty in 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: New York City and yet there's still going after him 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: as an innocent man. 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: Well. 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 3: Tragically, these two stories both show just how twisted and 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: messed up the radical left has gotten. With the first story, 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: we saw this CEO murdered in cold blood, shot on 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: the street in New York. The alleged murderer is a 16 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 3: radical leftist, allegedly an anti kNs capitalist, a climate activist, 17 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 3: uh and and he is being celebrated by the left. 18 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: He's been celebrated, raided on TikTok on Twitter. 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 4: Uh. 20 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 3: It is disgusting. It is the reaction of the radical 21 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 3: left shows just how they they not only normalize, but 22 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 3: but are cheering uh the murder of anyone they choose 23 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 3: that they dislike. And then on the flip side, Daniel Penny. 24 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 3: You look at what Daniel Penny did. This is a 25 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: marine who defended his nation. And you had a mentally ill, 26 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: homeless guy who was threatening to murder people on the subway. 27 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: And and Daniel Penny was a good samaritan who intervened 28 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 3: and and may well have saved the lives of his 29 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 3: fellow passengers. And and what as Alvin Bragg do. He 30 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: immediately turns around him, tries to prosecute him, put him 31 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: in jail. 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Is the hot assassin is what 78 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: was trending earlier on social media, and people that want 79 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: to send in money for his defense fund, and people 80 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: attacking whoever the worker was at McDonald's for example, they 81 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: called the police about a cold blooded assassin. 82 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: Well you look at what happened, and number one, he 83 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 3: just walked up and shot shot the ceo, and in 84 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 3: cold blood. It was horrific, it was deliberate murder. Here's 85 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 3: here's the the opening paragraph of the New York Post 86 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: story when when this suspect was arrested quote the suspect 87 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 3: nabbed in the killing of United Healthcare Sea Brian Thompson 88 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 3: is an anti capitalist Ivy League grad who liked online 89 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 3: quotes from unibomber, ted Kaczynski and seethed in a three 90 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: page manifesto these parasites simply had it coming. Law enforcement 91 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 3: sources have told The Post, this guy is a hard leftist. 92 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: He was apparently unhappy at the healthcare health insurance industry. 93 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 3: And by the way, look that's not an unreasonable position 94 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 3: to be unhappy at insurance companies. That's something reasonable people 95 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: can believe. What reasonable people don't do is murder those 96 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 3: people they don't like and to do it. Yet, you know, 97 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: this suspect is from a wealthy family. He was the 98 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 3: valedictorian of his prep school in Baltimore. He went to 99 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 3: the University of Pennsylvania. And you look at the early reports, 100 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 3: and we're going to learn more about what was happening 101 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 3: in this person's life. But but you know what was 102 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 3: what was reported as high school friends. This is again 103 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: from the Post, said they were shocked to learn that 104 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 3: the one time prep school valedictorian and stellar University of 105 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 3: Penngraduate may have been struggling and even more stunned to 106 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: learn of his bust tied to the case. And one 107 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 3: of the classmates said he was always doing the right thing. 108 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: He always had a smile in his face. And he 109 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 3: was described as a normal frat guy. And and and 110 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: you have to wonder if this guy was radicalized in 111 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: in college. I mean, we have seen, you know, one 112 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: of the quotes. He was just a normal frat guy. 113 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 3: He played beer pong, some girls thought he was hot, 114 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: that dynamic look. At some point, you know, there's a 115 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: video online of him giving his commencement speech in high school, 116 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 3: and he comes across as a pretty normal kid in 117 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 3: high schoo and at some point between then an age 118 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 3: twenty six, he became radicalized. 119 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: And and and. 120 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 3: We don't know at this point if the guy's just nuts, 121 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 3: I mean, Ted Kaczinski certainly, by all appearances, was nuts. 122 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: And maybe that was some of it, or or if 123 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: he's a radical or both. But what we do know 124 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: is is the reaction of people on the left, multiple 125 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: people on the left, has been just disgusting. And and 126 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: and let me give you an example. I want you 127 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: to listen to former Washington Post and New York Times 128 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: reporter Taylor Lorenz describing this murder and and just listen 129 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 3: to her. 130 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 5: I do believe in the sanctity of life, and I 131 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 5: think that's why I felt, along with so many other 132 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 5: Americans joy Unfortunately, you know, because of seriously I mean 133 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 5: ex maybe not joy, but certainly not know certainly not empathy. 134 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 5: Because again we'll see the footage. 135 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: How come this make you joyful? 136 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: This guy's a husband, is a father, and he's being 137 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 3: dumbed down in the middle of Manhattan. 138 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: Why does that make you joys. 139 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 5: The Americans that be murdered, So are tens So are 140 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 5: the tens of thousands of Americans, innocent Americans who died 141 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 5: because greedy health insurance executives like this one push policies 142 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 5: of denying care to the most vulnerable people. The many 143 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 5: millions of Americans that have watched people that I care 144 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 5: about suffer and in some cases die because of lack 145 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 5: of HELSS. 146 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 2: Should they will be killed? 147 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 6: Then? 148 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 2: Should they will be killed these healthcare executives? Would that 149 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: make you even more joyful? 150 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: Uh? 151 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 5: No, that would not. 152 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,479 Speaker 7: I don't know how. By the way, in journalism. 153 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: You can keep your job if you go on national 154 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: TV and you say something like this. But apparently if 155 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: you're on the left you can say this. You can 156 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: say you found joy in watching a man with children 157 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: and a wife who has a job walking down the 158 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: street in New York City be executed. And she's seeing the 159 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: footage like, well, I mean, and it's joy. Okay, maybe 160 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: it's that total joy. I believe her when she said 161 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: it was joy. I think that there's many out there, 162 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: and we're seeing it on social media center that are 163 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: cheerful and joyful that this is happening. Because it's like 164 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: they've decided that, hey, there can be an enemy's list now, 165 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: and we can murder or advocate for offering any person 166 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: in any position of power that we don't like, and 167 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: we're going to normalize it in America, and that is dangerous. 168 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 3: Well, let me say, Taylor Lorenz's comments there are sick 169 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 3: and twisted, and she should be treated as a deranged 170 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: lunatic because she is she is openly celebrating she feels 171 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 3: joy at someone, someone she's never met, being murdered. Why 172 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 3: because she hates all health insurance companies. She hates you know, what. 173 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 3: She's another anti capitalist nut job, but not just nutjob 174 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 3: who who feels joy at the murder of her political enemies. Listen, 175 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 3: Taylor Lorenz. My understanding is she was raised in enormous wealth, 176 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 3: an enormous privilege, and there's nothing worse than rich liberals 177 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 3: who are eager. We saw the same reaction when when 178 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 3: when Donald Trump was almost assassinated, when he was shot, 179 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 3: and and and people on the left bemoaning that that 180 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: that the assassin uh did not kill Donald Trump. That 181 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: is and Taylor Lorenz is not some fringe journalist. She 182 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: was a reporter both for the Washington Post and the 183 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 3: New York Times, and and and that approach is typically. 184 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 3: I want you to listen now to a University of 185 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 3: Pennsylvania professor Julia Alexeyeva uh talking about about this this assassination. 186 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: That is her playing that famous song and above her 187 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: it says, have never been prouder to be a professor 188 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: at the University of Pennsylvania. So referring to the fact 189 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: that he the shooter, uh, this this this man of 190 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: of of madness, and the executioner went to the University 191 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania. 192 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 3: So let me be clear, and I don't know Professor Alexeyeva, 193 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 3: but Penn should fire her. She she is playing that 194 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: is a song from Les Miss celebrating the French Revolution. 195 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 3: Apparently the good professor wants the guillotine in the streets, 196 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 3: wants to murder more CEOs. She's cheering, she's proud my 197 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: university graduated a murderer, and and and she's celebrating. This 198 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: person should not be teaching young people. This professor should 199 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 3: be fired because because this is this is the kind 200 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,599 Speaker 3: of radical view and and look, I also want to 201 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 3: play a couple of couple of folks from TikTok and 202 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: and and and this is this is emblematic of how 203 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: leftists are are are not only normalizing this, but you 204 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 3: know who they're angry at. They're furious that a McDonald's 205 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 3: employee saw this murderer and turned him in and and 206 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 3: and and okay, here's here. Here is one TikToker, a 207 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: transgender influencer apparently on TikTok, and we'll we'll leave the 208 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: name off, but but play play what they said on TikTok. 209 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 8: They caught the guy that killed the u a CEO 210 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 8: for such a professional hit. It's kind of weird that 211 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 8: the gunman didn't leave the US. The guy that reported 212 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 8: it was a McDonald's worker. 213 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 9: I would never advocate for violence on my page, but 214 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 9: it would be pretty funny if we beat the out 215 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 9: of him, and then when he went to the hospital, 216 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 9: that if he was out of network and had to 217 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 9: pay a huge deal. 218 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 8: I think that would be funny. I'm not advocating for it, 219 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 8: but it would bring a smile to me. 220 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: Okay, you are advocating for it, and rolled her eyes 221 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: when she said I would never advocate for violence on 222 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: my page. She did a like sarcastic eye roll for 223 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: people that can't see what we were watching. 224 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 2: And you know what what. 225 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 3: That that TikTok leftist is feeling the same joy Taylor 226 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: Lorenz is and and and is is saying, wouldn't it 227 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 3: be wonderful if someone beat up this this McDonald's employee 228 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 3: who you want to talk about like catching a murderer 229 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 3: in a normal SAE time and and and listen, let's 230 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 3: be clear, you and I we disagree with people on 231 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: the radical left, but but nobody should be subject to 232 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 3: political violence. Whether I agree with you or don't agree 233 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 3: with you. Murder is wrong, period. The end, and and 234 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 3: all right, play another TikToker to give a sense of 235 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: just for the left. Listen, this is the cultural rot 236 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: of being told if someone is on the other side, 237 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 3: they are not human, they do not count, and violence 238 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: is perfectly acceptable. 239 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: Play this other TikToker. 240 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 10: Okay, so they've arrested our hot co assassin. Turns out 241 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 10: his name's Luigi. He's twenty six years old. He's an 242 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 10: Ivy League grad, did his undergrad and masters at Penn 243 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 10: in computer science. Smittype. 244 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 11: He's a little young for me, but ugh, baby, what 245 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 11: is you doing getting caught eating at McDonald's And curse 246 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 11: you McDonald's employee for turning him in. 247 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 10: But I get it. They up the reward of sixty thousand. 248 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 10: Maybe you needed that money. They never understood those crazy 249 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 10: women that wrote inmates in jail, but I guess you 250 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 10: always loved doing that. 251 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: I mean, this is an older lady and she refers 252 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: to him as the hot assassin and then says, curse 253 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: you McDonald's employee for turning him in, But maybe you 254 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: need the sixty thousand dollars and that's why I did it. No, 255 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: maybe the McDonald's employees actually just did the right thing, 256 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: because they saw an assassin sitting in the sea in 257 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: the McDonald's and they said, hey, I want to make 258 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: sure this guy doesn't take out another innocent person. 259 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 3: Well, and and and notice, you know, she says, what 260 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 3: is you doing not committing murder but getting caught? Like, 261 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 3: how dare you get caught? I don't want you to 262 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 3: get caught. She's like, I want to write love letters 263 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 3: to this murderer. And and hot assassin was was trending 264 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: on Twitter today and and the left is glamorizing and understand, 265 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: there is a reason for this. And this is something 266 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 3: you and I have talked about a lot, which is 267 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 3: this is cultural Marxism. This is the fruits of cultural Marxism. 268 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 3: These are the same people that are cheering on Hamas 269 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: and Hezbela, and cheering on the murderers and rapists of Hamas, 270 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 3: and are cheering on October seventh, that are on college 271 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 3: campuses waving signs saying we love Hamas, we support Hamas. 272 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 3: These are the same radicals who are screaming at Jewish 273 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 3: students as they did at the University of Washington. Go 274 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: back to the gas chambers and the ovens. This is 275 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: and We've talked about it. My most recent book, Unwoke, 276 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: How to Defeat Cultural Marxism in America. It traces the 277 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 3: growth of cultural Marxism that started in the universities, and 278 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 3: the universities are training young people that the basic Marxist dialectic, 279 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: the dichotomy is is between the oppressors and the victims, 280 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 3: and the oppressors and victims, in this case Karl Marx's 281 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: original Communist Manifesto, the oppressors were the capitalists, the oppressors 282 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 3: were the owners of capital, and the workers were the victims. 283 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: And what Marxists are taught is that the so called 284 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: oppressors are evil and bad, and the so called victims 285 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 3: are good and noble. And Marxists advocate the violent revolution 286 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 3: of the so called victims against the so called oppressors, 287 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 3: and that violent revolution almost invariably involves involves murder. That 288 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: there is a reason that the cultural Marxist on campus 289 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 3: are celebrating Hamas who murdered twelve hundred Israelis who raped 290 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: women and little girls. And to be clear, like Black 291 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 3: Lives Matter, the Chicago chapter of Black Lives Matter, right 292 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 3: after October seventh tweeted out an image we support Palestine, 293 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 3: and it was an image of a paraglider. And to 294 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 3: be clear, this was not They were not engaging in 295 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: a debate about a two state solution in the Middle 296 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 3: East that one can reasonable people can disagree on that question. 297 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 3: They were explicitly the paragliders are what the Hamas terrorist 298 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: road flew in on to murder predominantly young people, young 299 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 3: young Jewish people at the music festival outside. They gunned 300 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: them down. I have met repeatedly with families of people 301 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 3: who were rape, people who were murdered in October seventh. 302 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 3: It was grotesque, it was evil, and Black Lives Matter 303 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 3: was saying you're our people, We stand with you. And 304 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 3: that is the doctrine of cultural Marxism that has infested 305 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 3: our universities for years after years after years. You know 306 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 3: this professor at Penn that is celebrating, she's celebrating because 307 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 3: she wants the violent overthrow of the so called oppressors. 308 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 3: And and you know what, Taylor Derinz has been taught 309 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 3: the same nonsense. And the problem is cultural Marxism. It 310 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 3: has spread from the universities to k through twelve education, 311 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: to journalism, to big business, to big tech, to entertainment. 312 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 3: It is spread. It is spread like a cancer. And 313 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 3: you know that there was another image that went viral online. 314 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 3: Why don't you tell people about about the image that 315 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 3: was being sent around today? 316 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, this was another one and I saw it earlier today. 317 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: And I think it goes to even a broader conversation 318 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: about where we are in this country when it comes 319 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: to the left, where it seems that they want to 320 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: normalize the execution of anyone they disagree with. 321 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 7: We've seen that with Donald Trump. 322 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: Now there's this picture that was put out well put together, 323 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: says Health Insurance ceo. Compensation has CEO of Sigma making 324 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: twenty one million in his name Wellcare. The salary twenty 325 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: three point five million in the name humanis sixteen point 326 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: three million. The list goes on and on. The total 327 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: list is eight different CEOs. CBS Health CEO is a 328 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: great example on this list, and all of their pictures 329 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: are in color. And then the eighth person on the 330 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: list at the bottom right is United Healthcare Brian Thompson 331 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: ten point two million, and his picture is in black 332 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: and white. It is very clear that his pictures in black, 333 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: like why for the hey, he has been killed. We've 334 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 1: taken him out. The rest are still living, they're in color. 335 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: And this started to go out on social media, left 336 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: and right, and it's obviously the people that want this 337 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: out there is like, here's our kill list. 338 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 7: We started with Brian Thompson. 339 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: Now here's all the other ones that are still alive, 340 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: making even more money than he's making. 341 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 3: Look, it is twisted, it is sick. We're getting reports 342 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 3: of certainly healthcare CEOs, but CEOs across the country who 343 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 3: are upping their expenditures in the personal security because the 344 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: left is reveling in this sort of murder. 345 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 2: And let me be clear, murder is wrong, period the end. 346 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 3: Regardless of your politics, regardless of whether I agree with 347 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 3: you or disagree with you, nobody should be subject to violence. 348 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 3: And yet let's go to some of our favorite people, 349 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 3: the always charming and wonderful, unreasonable host of the View. 350 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: They were very unhappy. 351 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 3: They were very unhappy today because I called out the 352 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 3: extremists left for their violence and their willingness to engage 353 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 3: in assassinations and to try to assassinate, to assassinate this CEO, 354 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 3: to try to assassinate Donald Trump, and give a listen 355 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 3: to Joy Bihar. Just just whining about, oh, don't don't 356 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 3: blame us leftists for this, even though we're the ones celebrating. 357 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 12: A course, Ted Cruz has to politicize it and say 358 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 12: that it's a left wing thing. 359 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 7: I mean, the I think it was. 360 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 12: The second attempted assassination on Trump was a kid who 361 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 12: was a registered Republican who also voted for Biden and 362 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 12: had a lot of left wing stuff on his social media. 363 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 12: But I don't think that this is as you say, 364 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,479 Speaker 12: it's not a political issue. And why does Ted Cruz 365 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 12: insist on dividing Americans even further? 366 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 7: Is my question to him. 367 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: You listen to the View, and I mean, you want to 368 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: talk about stretches. So now you're somehow politicizing people that 369 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: were trying to assassinate and actually shot Donald Trump, and 370 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: you're calling out the rhetoric. And now they say somehow 371 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: not only is Orange Man bad, but Ted Cruise is 372 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: bad as well well. 373 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 3: And and look that you know, the hosts of the 374 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 3: View are just denying reality. 375 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: Joy. 376 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 3: Every word that just came out of Joy's mouth is 377 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 3: complete nonsense. Is is babbling idiocy. And listen, I gotta 378 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 3: say I went on on the View for for my 379 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 3: second book, and my third book, and and and when 380 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: I went on for for for my third book, Justice Corrupted, 381 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 3: how the Left is weaponized our legal system. Uh, you know, 382 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 3: the view came after me. 383 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: Like like like. 384 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 3: Like vultures descending from the sky trying to consume my liver, 385 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 3: and they were screaming at me from multiple directions. We 386 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 3: actually had protesters stand up in the of the show 387 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 3: and disrupt the show, which had apparently never happened before. 388 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 3: But they're screaming at me, Well, aren't right wingers all 389 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 3: violent protesters? And you guys, it was all about January sixth, 390 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 3: and you're violent. 391 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 2: You're violent. 392 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: You're violent, ironically, that's what she was saying. And it 393 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 3: wasn't Joy. Joy was not all on that show. But 394 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 3: I turned to them and said, look, violence is wrong. 395 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: It's wrong. Whether I agree with you or disagree with you. 396 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: Anyone who committed an act of violence, anyone who's assaulted 397 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 3: a police officer, they should be prosecuted. Speech, peaceful speech 398 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 3: is protected by the Constitution. But I also said, you 399 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 3: want to talk about violence, I'm willing to say put 400 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 3: anyone in jail who commits active violence, are you? And 401 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 3: I asked on that show. What about the Black Lives 402 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 3: Matter and Antifa riots all over the country in twenty 403 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 3: twenty that burned American cities across the country and whoope. 404 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 3: Goldberg looked at me and said, I don't know what 405 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 3: an ANTIFA riot is. Look like they're literally living in 406 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 3: an alternative reality where they just that they just erase 407 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 3: the embrace of violence on the left. You know what, 408 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 3: maybe you remember Kamala Harris raising money to bail out 409 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 3: of jail, the violent rioters who burned Minneapolis and looted 410 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: stores and and violently assaulted people. This is who the 411 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 3: radical left cheers for, celebrates. You know, Joy ought to 412 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 3: ask herself, why does fellow leftist Taylor Lorenz find joy 413 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 3: in this cold blooded murder? And you know she's not 414 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 3: going to answer that. By the way, I will say 415 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 3: the irony the fourth book I wrote, Unwoke, about Cultural Marxism, 416 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: the view refused to have me on. 417 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 2: They'd had me on twice. 418 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 3: It apparently had not gone well to them because they're 419 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 3: used to just screaming one point of view and not 420 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 3: not having to face disagreement, and so they said, nope, no, sorry, 421 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 3: you're no longer welcome to the show. We don't want 422 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 3: anything other than our one sided view of propaganda that 423 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 3: we're spewing. 424 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 2: And that's what they continue to do. 425 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 7: No doubt about it. 426 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: And if you look at this story we just talked about, 427 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: and you compare and contrast it to how the media 428 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: is handling the Daniel Penny story of him being found 429 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: not guilty in that Subway choke hold trial, you can 430 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: see just how much they push a narrative depending on 431 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: who you are. You're a veteran and helping people from 432 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: a violent individual. Oh, you're a bad person. I want 433 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: to break that down for you in just a moment 434 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: as well. But first let me tell you about the 435 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. This Christmas and Honka 436 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: season is a time of hope and peace for many 437 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: of us, but for those in Israel right now facing 438 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: the ongoing war, it is a time of fear and uncertainty. 439 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: The hardships are felt by everyone, with many people struggling 440 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: to afford food and basic necessities. 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Senator, 460 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 7: Let's move to this. 461 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: Other story and it involves Daniel Penny, and thank goodness, 462 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: he was found not guilty many people, if you don't 463 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: remember the story, he was an individual that was protecting 464 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: innocent people from a violent individual on the subway on 465 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: the train in New York and He did it because 466 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: he feared for not only his life, but for others 467 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 1: that he was threatening. And Daniel Penny did what I 468 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: would hope that many men would do, which is to 469 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: stand in and to help people that are in need, 470 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: especially if there's someone that is violent. The media immediately 471 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: flipped this into a oh, white guy choke hold on 472 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: an African American. This was right in the middle of 473 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: a lot of the police brutality issues that we were 474 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 1: dealing with in this country and the stories and this 475 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: was a perfect narrative. And they went after this guy 476 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: and they also found out, oh, he's a veteran. Well, 477 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: a lot in the media don't like veterans, and so 478 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: it was a double whammy, and they wanted to put 479 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: this guy in jail for a very long time. Now, 480 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: thank goodness, on some on the jury said we're not 481 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: doing this. This was a victory, and yet they're still 482 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: attacking him even though now he's been found innocent. 483 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 3: Well, thank god that Daniel Penny was acquitted, found not 484 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 3: guilty by a jury of his peers, not guilty of 485 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 3: criminally negligent homicide. As you noted, Daniel Penny is a 486 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 3: twenty six year old marine veteran. He's an architecture student, 487 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 3: and he was charged by Alvin Bragg with both manslaughter 488 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 3: and criminally negligent homicide for the death of Jordan Neely. 489 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 3: Jordan Neely was a thirty year old homeless man who 490 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 3: had schizophrenia who barged into a train, was shouting death threats, 491 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 3: and he was high on a synthetic marijuana known as 492 00:28:59,160 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 3: as Kate. 493 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: Now it really is striking. 494 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 3: The murderer of the United Healthcare CEO was a twenty 495 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 3: six year old and the Left is celebrating that twenty 496 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 3: six year old murderer. In this instance, Penny is not 497 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 3: a murderer. It is not murder. Self defense is not murder. 498 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 3: Defending yourself if you have a reasonable fear for your 499 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 3: safety or the safety of others, you have a right 500 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 3: to defend yourself. That is not murder. And that's what 501 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 3: the jury concluded. And this case should never have been 502 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 3: brought if you look at the facts. The facts of 503 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 3: what happened here were horrific. And so the incident happened 504 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 3: on May one, twenty twenty three, and Neale barged onto 505 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 3: an f train in Manhattan, screaming death threats. The other 506 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 3: passengers on the train afterwards said that they were thankful 507 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 3: for Penny's intervention. Neely had a long criminal record. He 508 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 3: had an active arrest warrant, He had a history of psychosis, 509 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 3: and he was high on K two, which is a 510 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 3: synthetic former marijuana. If you look at what has happened 511 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 3: in New York with the violence and violence on subways, 512 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 3: just three days earlier, a passenger standing on a subway 513 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 3: had been stabbed with an ice pick on a J train. 514 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 3: About a month before, a PBS reporter got sucker punched 515 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 3: on a Number four train. A week before that, an 516 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 3: individual was shoved and hit the side of a moving 517 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 3: our train. 518 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: That individual survived. 519 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 3: Uh And and this pattern, you know, one of the 520 00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 3: one of the witnesses on the train testify that Neely 521 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 3: shouted someone would quote die that day. And she went 522 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 3: on to say, quote, I got scared by the tone 523 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 3: that he was saying it. I've seen situations, but not 524 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 3: like that. And and Penny gave an interview afterwards, and 525 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 3: and here's what Penny said. He said said about about 526 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 3: this this deranged homeless man. Quote he was talking gibberish. 527 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 3: But these guys are pushing people in front of trains 528 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 3: and stuff. There were more than twenty subway shoves in 529 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 3: the year before Penny's encounter with Neely. This case should never, ever, 530 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 3: ever have been brought. But Alvin Bragg is a radical leftist, 531 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 3: and so Alvin Bragg is a cultural Marxist. He believes 532 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 3: he is in abusing the justice system to target his enemies. 533 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 3: And for the cultural Marxism, Penny is the oppressor because 534 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 3: of his race, because he's a white man and he's 535 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 3: a veteran, he is the oppressor, and Neely is the 536 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 3: victim again because of his race. Never Mind, they don't 537 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 3: care that he's a mentally ill criminal threatening to murder people. 538 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 3: That that is his These are people that you know, 539 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 3: presumably would have celebrated if Penny had been murdered. Because 540 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 3: once they assign you to these two groups, oppressor always 541 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 3: always wrong, victim always always always right. That is the 542 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 3: radical ideology. And again that the reaction of the left 543 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 3: is precisely the opposite of the reaction. And by the way, 544 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 3: I want to point out there's a reason I'm using 545 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 3: Daniel Penny's name. He was innocent, he was found not 546 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 3: guilty by a jury. There's a reason you and I 547 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 3: have not the name of the murderer who murdered the 548 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 3: United Healthcare CEO. I try very hard not to repeat 549 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 3: the names of murderers many times. These people want to 550 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 3: be famous, they want to be remembered, and so I think, 551 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 3: as far as I'm concerned, this guy's name should be 552 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 3: forgotten for all time. But you know what the leftists 553 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 3: are going to celebrate is celebrate him because that's their ideology. 554 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, no doubt about it. 555 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: This is one of those stories where I hope that 556 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: people will stand up and say this is a hero 557 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: and be proud to say he is a hero, because 558 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: that's exactly what he is. And we should celebrate heroes 559 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: and we should not have to worry that when men 560 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: need to stand up and act to protect and defend people, 561 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: that they're going to do it and not have to 562 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: worry about thinking twice because of what just happened to 563 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: this individual. It's also a really sad commentary about New 564 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: York and New York City and the activist prosecutors there. 565 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: And finally, I want to get your thought on that. 566 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: With the prosecutors that went after him, should would there 567 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: be any scenario where he can in essence say, hey, 568 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: you guys didn't treat me the right way. 569 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 2: Look. 570 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 3: Look, I could easily see a lawsuit following from this. 571 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 3: I hope Alvin Bragg is thrown out of office. I 572 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 3: hope he is removed from office. The governor has the 573 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 3: authority to do that, of course. The governor, Kathy Hockle 574 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 3: is a leftist herself, a cultural Marxist herself. She's someone who, 575 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 3: by the way, said, if you're a Republican, get the 576 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 3: hell out of my state. 577 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 2: Moved to Florida. You don't belong in New York. 578 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 3: That is their ideology. If you are the enemy, they 579 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 3: are opposed to you. I gotta say, I want you 580 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 3: to listen to Daniel Penny and him talking about how 581 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 3: he was trying to protect other people's lives. He was 582 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 3: acting as a good Samaritan, acting as a hero, intervening, 583 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 3: risking his own life. Look, encountering a mentally ill, potentially 584 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 3: violent person threatening violence is a dangerous thing to do. 585 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 2: Here's what Daniel Penny had to say. 586 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 13: The guilt I would have felt if someone did get hurt, 587 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 13: if if he did do what he was threatening to do, 588 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 13: would never be able to live with myself. 589 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 7: And I'll I'll take. 590 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 13: A million court appearances and people calling me names and 591 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 13: people hating me just to keep one of those people 592 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 13: from getting hurt or killed. 593 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 3: Look that that that that is yes. Look and of 594 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 3: course how is the left reacting. I want you to 595 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 3: listen to m s NBC just just just expressing misery 596 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 3: that that that that Daniel Penny was was acquitted. And 597 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 3: and understand by the way, initially so there were two charges, 598 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 3: uh that were brought. Uh So Alvin Bragg brought two charges. 599 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 3: One charge was for manslaughter and the second charge was 600 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 3: for uh criminally uh criminally criminally negligent homicide. The jury 601 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 3: deadlocked on on the on the second degree remanslaughter claim, 602 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 3: which was the more serious charge. So that means they 603 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 3: had a disagreement. They could not come to agreement. And 604 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 3: so what did Alvin Bragg do. Well, Alvin Bragg moved 605 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 3: to dismiss the more serious charge and he was trying 606 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 3: to get a conviction on the less serious charge. And 607 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 3: I got to say, to the jury's credit, they came 608 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 3: back very quickly with a not guilty. So the jury 609 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 3: is determined he is innocent. But listen to MSNBC and 610 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 3: just how upset they are that this innocent man was 611 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 3: found not guilty Banking. 612 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 14: News here Daniel Penny found not guilty. But Lisa, we 613 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 14: also know that Jordan Neely's family had filed I believe 614 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 14: a civil suit in this case as well. Does the 615 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 14: verdict in this case impact that not necessarily? 616 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 15: I mean the law is wife with examples of people 617 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 15: who are quitted in criminal cases and yet find justice 618 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 15: with respect to civil accountability. I think the best example 619 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 15: of that is with respect to Fred Goldman's family. Fred 620 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 15: gold I'm sorry, Ron Goldman being the man who was 621 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 15: murdered alongside Nicole Brown Simpson. Even though OJ Simpson was 622 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 15: never found criminally guilty for those two murders. Fred Goldman, 623 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 15: the father, along with his daughter then sued O J. 624 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 14: Simpson Civilly and. 625 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 15: One a fairly large verdict with respect to civil liability 626 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 15: for OJ Simpson. There are many other examples of similar 627 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 15: dysjuncture between what happens in a criminal court and what 628 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 15: happens when respect to a wrongful death action, for example, 629 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 15: by a family. 630 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 1: It's sad center, but there seems to be another trend, 631 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: and that is if you are an innocent person and 632 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: then you are found innocent of a crime. If the 633 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: media doesn't like you, they're still going to act like 634 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: you're a threat to society. 635 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 3: Well, you look at that's a reporter Lisa Rubin on 636 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 3: MSNBC who is calling for the mentally ill homeless man 637 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,280 Speaker 3: who was high on drugs and threatening to murder people 638 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 3: on the train, calling for him to find justice against 639 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,760 Speaker 3: the marine who intervened to protect people and keep people safe, 640 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 3: and and and she analogizes it to the O. J. 641 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 3: Simpson case, which is utterly absurd because look, O J. 642 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 3: Simpson was charged with, and the facts were pretty powerful, 643 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 3: was guilty of murder. 644 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 2: Now, to be fair, O J. 645 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 3: Simpson was not found guilty of murder, but there was 646 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 3: significant evidence that OJ was guilty. There was significant enough 647 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 3: evidence that he ended up being hit. 648 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,760 Speaker 2: With a with a large civil judgment. 649 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 3: This is not remotely there's no argument, no rational, reasonable 650 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 3: argument under the law, that Daniel Penny is guilty of murder. 651 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 3: Self defense is fully protected. And by the way, if 652 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 3: perchance you don't believe me, you should listen to my 653 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 3: former criminal law professor, Alan Dershowitz. Now, Alan Dershowitz is 654 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 3: a liberal, He's been a liberal his whole life, but 655 00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 3: he has the courage to speak out and speak the 656 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 3: truth and listen to what Alan Dershowitz said about this 657 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 3: case and about the absolutely corrupt prosecutor Alvin Bragg. 658 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 14: I got to start off with just the immediate reaction 659 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 14: to the not guilty verdict in the Daniel Penny case. 660 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 4: I have to admit I was a little surprised. 661 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 6: Having hung on the higher count, I was not expecting 662 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 6: that they would so quickly acquit on the low account. 663 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 6: It probably shows that there were only one or two 664 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 6: people in the original high count that hung based on 665 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 6: their desire to see a conviction. So I think it's 666 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 6: a good thing now. I think the next step has 667 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 6: to be the removal of Alvin Bragg from the role 668 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 6: of District Attorney. He is a disgrace to the office. 669 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,720 Speaker 6: The two cases he brought should never have been brought. 670 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 6: The case against Donald Trump, which was made up out 671 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 6: of old cloth, which to my mind involves unethical unprofessional 672 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 6: conduct by Bragg, and also this case, which should never 673 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 6: have been brought either. He brought it only because of 674 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 6: the racial component case and because of pressures from Black 675 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 6: Lives Matter and other groups on the outside. Both white 676 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 6: and black radicals who wanted these cases to be brought, 677 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 6: wanted this case to be brought, and we're going to 678 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 6: continue to complain even though there were obviously black members 679 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 6: of the jury who voted to a quite as well. 680 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,399 Speaker 16: Professor, what do you make of how quickly they came 681 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 16: back with this verdict and also to there's the civil 682 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,879 Speaker 16: case that he's also facing too, Daniel Penny does that 683 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 16: given that he's not guilty on the criminal case, what 684 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 16: happens to the civil case as well? 685 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,760 Speaker 4: It'll be thrown out. There's no case there civilly. 686 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 6: The only thing that will happen is that Penny will 687 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 6: get an enormous amount of discovery and we'll get much 688 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,720 Speaker 6: more information that we don't now have about the alleged 689 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 6: victim in the case. So my prediction is it will 690 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 6: be withdrawn. I don't think they'll go any further. I 691 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 6: don't think they'll get any kind of a verdict. Now, 692 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,959 Speaker 6: you know, maybe the city will settle if they sue 693 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 6: the city as well. If I were the lawyers for 694 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 6: the alleged victim, I probably think I'd have a better 695 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 6: shot at getting some money from the city, which was 696 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 6: sympathetic obviously to the victim, than from a poor former 697 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 6: marine who probably doesn't have a lot of money. 698 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 4: So I don't think the simple case is going anywhere. 699 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 4: This is not O. J. Simpson, where the civil case 700 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 4: won after the criminal case loss. There was no case 701 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 4: here to bring it all, either civil or criminal. 702 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: Alan Dershowitz there seems to be optimistic, and I'm glad 703 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: he's saying, Hey, I don't think he's going to have 704 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: to deal with what, for example, A. J. 705 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 7: Simpson had to deal with. This is very different. I 706 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 7: hope he's right. 707 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 3: Well, listen, Alan Dershwitz. He's a good friend. As I said, 708 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 3: he was my criminal law professor, and I actually took 709 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 3: another class from him in law school as well. He 710 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 3: was a fantastic professor. He's the best professor I had 711 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 3: in law school. And he's a brilliant lawyer. He is 712 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 3: an incredibly talented lawyer. And you know, I remember my 713 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 3: first year in law school when dersh was stood up 714 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 3: and he said listen. He said, by any reasonable measure, 715 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 3: I am in the most liberal one percent of Americans 716 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 3: across this country. And he said at Harvard Law School, 717 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,399 Speaker 3: oddly enough, I'm considered something of a conservative. This is 718 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 3: not America. I don't remember if he said this is 719 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,399 Speaker 3: not America, but this is not a typical place. I mean, 720 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 3: this was thirty years ago, so I'm paraphrasing, but his 721 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 3: point was so. Dershowitz believes in free speech. That is 722 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 3: no longer where the left is. The left is eager 723 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 3: to censor someone who disagrees. Dershowitz does not celebrate the 724 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 3: murder of those he disagrees with. Dershowitz is not a 725 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 3: cultural Marxist. He's ad old school liberal. He's a civil libertarian. 726 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 3: He is, you know, has represented criminal defendants successfully. He's 727 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 3: gotten a lot of criminal defense off. He believes in 728 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 3: a vigorous protection constitutional rights for criminal defendants, and look, 729 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 3: I respect his courage. He's been demonized. He also supports 730 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 3: Israel and speaks out very powerfull and effective for Israel. 731 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 3: He's been demonized by the left for doing so because 732 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 3: they brooke no dissent. Anyone who dares oppose them is 733 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 3: the enemy. And so even though he's been one of 734 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 3: the most prominent liberals in the country for decades, he 735 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 3: is rejected by today's left because he actually has the 736 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 3: courage to speak out against them. I hope he's right 737 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 3: about the civil case. In any sane and ordinary universe. 738 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:41,760 Speaker 2: That would be true. 739 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 3: I have to say I have a little bit less 740 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 3: confidence about a New York jury and a New York judge. 741 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 3: And maybe that's because we all saw the absolute kangaroo 742 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 3: courts that were convened against Donald Trump. And having seen 743 00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 3: the civil suits and the criminal case against Donald Trump 744 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,439 Speaker 3: and the New York justice system, Uh, he is right 745 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 3: on what should happen. Look, I am very grateful that 746 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 3: that that Daniel Penny was acquitted, But it says something 747 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 3: about how little confidence I have about the justice system 748 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 3: in New. 749 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 2: York that I was not sure this was happened would happen. 750 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,320 Speaker 3: I thought there was a chance they they would come 751 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 3: back and follow through on what Alvin Bragg wanted them 752 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 3: to do, which is punish him because he was deemed 753 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 3: the bad guy. And and thankfully that the justice system 754 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 3: worked in this case. And you ought to ask yourself, 755 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 3: have you seen even a single Democrat celebrate the Daniel 756 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:42,800 Speaker 3: Penny verdict? 757 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a great question. 758 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: And if not, why not, don't forget We do this 759 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 1: show Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Hit that subscribe or auto 760 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 1: download button. 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