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Speaker 1: an episode of Kicking It with John and Greg. Joined here,

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Speaker 1: my good buddy, Greg Woodman, what is up buddy? You know,

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Speaker 1: another day, another day, another dollar. Preseason is over? Over

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Speaker 1: how every day weekends upon us? It feels good? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, now the real ones, the real one starts.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be a kind of a good feeling.

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Speaker 1: Get through another another preseason and now, you know, just

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Speaker 1: mindset focus on my thirteenth preseason. Wow. Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 1: lot of games. That is thirteen times or so. That's

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Speaker 1: like one hundred and some games. You were, you worked,

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Speaker 1: about one hundred and twelve games total, right, sixteen times four. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It was like having a good game. Guys. He almost

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Speaker 1: That's always an interesting game. But it also gives like

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Speaker 1: time and get some so they always talking about you

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Speaker 1: want to get tape out there. You know, all those

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Speaker 1: game that year. That is crazy, which is really crazy.

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Speaker 1: It shows how much depth we have and how much

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Speaker 1: my parents of like, I know, my parents did the

426
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Speaker 1: absolute best they could and we had a hard time

427
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Speaker 1: growing up. But I was like some of the things

428
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Speaker 1: you allowed me to wear like no one under I

429
00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,280
Speaker 1: got picked on and beat up, and it's like, why

430
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Speaker 1: would you do that to me? Public school wasn't good

431
00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,480
Speaker 1: for you? No, because I did private school until fifth grade.

432
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Speaker 1: And then we remember we talked about that. I wore

433
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Speaker 1: the all denim the very first day bull cut. I

434
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Speaker 1: ran into one of my buddies just the other night

435
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Speaker 1: we went down to Dinos and had a beer and

436
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Speaker 1: uh we we were friends from elementary school. And he goes,

437
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Speaker 1: he said he had talked to somebody, said he was

438
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Speaker 1: coming to meet up with me. And the guy was

439
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Speaker 1: like he still got that bull cut, Like cut, dang it?

440
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Speaker 1: Why do you still remember that happen? Like people never

441
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Speaker 1: forget never, Like I still remember the kid that pets

442
00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,480
Speaker 1: the pants grade you remember it, you saw him, you'd

443
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Speaker 1: be like, hey, remember the time sometimes the dude, right,

444
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,639
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I remember when you people are kids

445
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Speaker 1: are so me that was it? Like, why why don't

446
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Speaker 1: you get that because you still got that bull cut?

447
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 1: Like no, you know what, I'm an adult. I don't

448
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Speaker 1: have a bowl cut. I don't remember what I had

449
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Speaker 1: for dinner last night, and I remember crazy stories like that,

450
00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 1: phenominary school that happen, you know, twenty five years ago? Yeah, why,

451
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:09,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's so so ridiculous there anything four

452
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 1: that ninety four, but yeah, like fifth sixth grade. Like,

453
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 1: but I remember going back to school shopping like we had. Yeah,

454
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 1: my parents, we did a lot of shopping at Ross.

455
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with that, but that's that's how it was.

456
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Speaker 1: And you can't dress for last But I remember, did you.

457
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was popular here, but here

458
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 1: we had there was a big phase of Starter jackets.

459
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, starter jackets, did you? Yeah? I lovedon Sanders,

460
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Speaker 1: So I had uh. I had like I was like

461
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Speaker 1: the kid who had like that, no one. I had

462
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,199
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs and it was bright yellow. Remember

463
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Speaker 1: that one because it was the one that was at Ross.

464
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Speaker 1: It was the one that we could. I got my star.

465
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Speaker 1: I felt so good and then it was like sure

466
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Speaker 1: enough when I wear it and they're like, oh, there's

467
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Speaker 1: that geek in the bul cut and look at the

468
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 1: stupid down the system in the Ross dress for Last

469
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Speaker 1: Hierarchy to Land the Pacific Northwest because it wouldn't sell anywhere,

470
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 1: and they're like, well, maybe maybe some kid in rented

471
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Speaker 1: aware of this. These kids in Kansas won't even wear this. Yeah,

472
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Speaker 1: send it to the Pacific Northwest. Yeah, I remember, like

473
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Speaker 1: every kid had one of those jackets. Yes, they were

474
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Speaker 1: the big pouch from the front. Yeah. Yeah, they were

475
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Speaker 1: so cool and oh and like the worst thing ever

476
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,199
Speaker 1: was like if you're if the stars broke off of

477
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Speaker 1: the of the zipper, because they would come off every

478
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Speaker 1: once in a while and you'd like, oh no, like

479
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 1: the starter symbols gone. Do you remember there were stories

480
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Speaker 1: and I remember the people getting jumped for those. Yeah,

481
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: well I remember the starter symbol because it was always

482
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Speaker 1: so cold though. Stick to your lips in Canada because

483
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 1: I'd be like minus twenty and then you'd like look down,

484
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 1: like stick to your lips. Yeah, those Starter what was God?

485
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: I was trying to think of some of these other things.

486
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Speaker 1: Did you guys have Stucy up there? Uh? The brand? Yeah? Yeah,

487
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't think it really made it.

488
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: There were about Jinko jeans. I don't think that made

489
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Speaker 1: it there either, the big giant jeans that were made

490
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Speaker 1: no sense for kids to wear. I don't remember that.

491
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Speaker 1: What about Phila? I remember Phila? I was the kid.

492
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Speaker 1: That's that's how you knew I got picked on. I

493
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Speaker 1: was the kid who had Phila. Oh you got picked

494
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 1: on them? Yeah? Do you remember Whenebok pumps came out? Oh,

495
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 1: those were so awesome, so cool. Somehow my brother and

496
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: I both got a pair of those. I will never

497
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: forget the first time my parents, I don't know how.

498
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Speaker 1: I think I was in eighth grade and I convinced

499
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Speaker 1: my parents to spend money on shoes and I got

500
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Speaker 1: a pair of the all white Penny Hardaways and they

501
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Speaker 1: were so no one had them. Everyone had the black,

502
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 1: no one had the white ones. And I found them

503
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 1: and I wore him to school and they were like

504
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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty five bucks. My mom was so mad,

505
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 1: but I just I begged her for him, and I

506
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 1: had him at school for about a week. And we

507
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: were sitting and some girl we were sitting down, and

508
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 1: she thought it was funny and took her pen and

509
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 1: stabbed the air pocket of the air pocket. Name we're

510
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: looking her up right now? Yeah? I Oh. I was enraged.

511
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: I was like, why would you do that? First time

512
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: I'd ever had you? Remember her name her name was Erica.

513
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: I don't remember her last name. We should look her up.

514
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: I know McKnight middle school. You stabbed him. Send her

515
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Speaker 1: a bill for a hundred and thirty five dollars damages

516
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: that that lawsuits now about ten the emotional damage. Imagic.

517
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: She's got a letter in the mail fans she's giving

518
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Speaker 1: sued I thought she did back in nineteen ninety four

519
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: on this day you've been served, Erica. You like, what

520
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Oh? I want to kind of

521
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: do it. I do too. You're out there, you're living.

522
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Speaker 1: You know what you did. Yeah you good luck sleep

523
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 1: in the night. Yeah yeah, Uh. I was saying. The

524
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 1: other thing I was thinking about is, uh, did you

525
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Speaker 1: guys play random sports in like elementary middle or like

526
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: middle school, high school? Like I was always thought about,

527
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 1: like one of the things that was fun as you

528
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: start play different sports, like I remember playing like getting

529
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: super into like pickleball, pick a ball battles. Do you

530
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: ever play pickleball? I don't know what that is. You're

531
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: serious pickleball? We played real sports, Greg, We weren't just

532
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: really good a bunch of exercises. You just insulted, like, uh,

533
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: you know, people from renting you will know pickle ball, Like,

534
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: let's let's not. It's not like callensthetics like we just

535
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: did like dance aerobics and it was nineteen nine. Pickle ball,

536
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: uh is like tennis okay, but indoors okay, with wooden

537
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: paddles and whiffleballs. Wow, it sounds so stupid when you

538
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: made me it should be not a pro tour. I

539
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 1: will I bet you there is a there's like, there's

540
00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: like pro dodgeball. Now, yeah, people don't that you didn't

541
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: do anything. Dodge Ball should be a game where you

542
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: all go and do it and then go and have

543
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: a beer after. True, not like take it so seriously

544
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: that it I don't know there's professional like there are

545
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: adult professional kickball leagues. Really, Yeah, that's funny. I think

546
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: dodge ball at least is a little more. I love that.

547
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 1: I love kickball. I did too, a big like rubber

548
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 1: red rubber ball you kicked. I was good at it too.

549
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. Those were also so when you

550
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Speaker 1: played when you were a kid, did you play did

551
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: you guys play dodgeball and p yeah? I loved Did

552
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: you use the red rubber balls or did you use

553
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: the soft pall? I think we started off using the

554
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: rubber balls. And then as we got older, those teams

555
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 1: like this hasn't say it is not Remember they're like

556
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: one they're like huge red ball if you don't know balls,

557
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 1: like they weighed a few pounds. Yeah, they were. You

558
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: just get drilled. There was always that one kid. Yeah,

559
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: like poor little Melissa running across the middle and it's like, oh, man,

560
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: like I'm a pretty good athlete, but there's her head.

561
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 1: Not do this, but I'm gonna red dodgeball on the

562
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: side of Melissa's face. Oh. And then no, they had

563
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: like those nerf ones, and then it was harder to

564
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: throw those. You couldn't get any like velocity behind them.

565
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: Like try to go across the gym and they start

566
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: to float on you and they curve up. Then sam

567
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: my good athletes Ki would run across the back and

568
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: catch it in the air. You can be out off

569
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Speaker 1: like this guy like